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EDIT: Rapoc just beat me to it :)
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http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/rrg2.pl?encoder/sspf.rm
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nathan.moeller - 7/2/2007 5:47 PMBack on STS-121 it took close to 6 hours from arrival in the VAB before the bipod attachment device on the orbiter was disconnected from the OTS.
In the meantime, the hoisting sling is being moved into position around Atlantis for the move to the vertical position, which I believe will be later today sometime.
Time before the orbiter was lifted into the high bay from arriving in the VAB was 15.5 hours.
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Well, it's left the room at least. Can't remember when it's to be shipped to the pad. That's not later today, is it?
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jmjawors - 7/2/2007 1:58 PM
"Ladies and Gentlemen, the canister has left the building!"
Well, it's left the room at least. Can't remember when it's to be shipped to the pad. That's not later today, is it?
It has to rotated to vertical
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jmjawors - 7/2/2007 1:58 PM "Ladies and Gentlemen, the canister has left the building!" Well, it's left the room at least. Can't remember when it's to be shipped to the pad. That's not later today, is it?
Last I saw it was due to be shipped to the pad on the 12th. There was some talk of the 18th, but I think it's back to the 12th now.
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nathan.moeller - 7/2/2007 9:07 PMThat one is only used to disconnect the bipod fitting on the orbiter(it stays with orbiter and gets mated with the bipod struts on the ET). The orbiter is also secured to the OTS on the aft ET attachment fittings.
Platform being moved underneath to disconnect Atlantis from the OTS.
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DaveS - 7/2/2007 2:28 PMQuotenathan.moeller - 7/2/2007 9:07 PMThat one is only used to disconnect the bipod fitting on the orbiter(it stays with orbiter and gets mated with the bipod struts on the ET). The orbiter is also secured to the OTS on the aft ET attachment fittings.
Platform being moved underneath to disconnect Atlantis from the OTS.
I know. I actually have some old video of personnel performing detachment work on Endeavour prior to STS-59.
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nathan.moeller - 7/2/2007 10:13 PMGo here http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/Camera2/camera2java.htm and flip between the 15:47 and 15:52 images. Notice how her nose moves up in the 15:52 image.
I don't believe she's moved. They've been in the process of disconnecting her from the attach fittings on the OTS.
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/07/2007 08:27 pm
http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/default.htm
and
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/
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nathan.moeller - 7/2/2007 10:13 PM
I don't believe she's moved. They've been in the process of disconnecting her from the attach fittings on the OTS.
Go here http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/Camera2/camera2java.htm and flip between the 15:47 and 15:52 images. Notice how her nose moves up in the 15:52 image.
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C5C6 - 7/2/2007 10:25 PM
can someone give me the link to see that video or photo feed of the VAB??? or its under password???
Here you go: http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/Camera2/camera2java.htm
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DaveS - 7/2/2007 3:26 PMQuotenathan.moeller - 7/2/2007 10:13 PMGo here http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/Camera2/camera2java.htm and flip between the 15:47 and 15:52 images. Notice how her nose moves up in the 15:52 image.
I don't believe she's moved. They've been in the process of disconnecting her from the attach fittings on the OTS.
By golly you're right :) Apologies! Yep she moved alright. They've got her loose from the OTS then! The image hasn't refreshed in about 40 minutes so hopefully the next one will show her lifted off nicely.
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Simon ;)
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simonbp - 7/2/2007 10:38 PM
When is rollout to the pad?
Simon ;)
A week today.
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MySDCUserID - 7/2/2007 11:18 PM
Why is it saying wankers? I thought that was purely a UK insult.
She's English, it's a big secret ;) Shame on you for saying "it" :o ;)
Post by: jacqmans on 02/07/2007 10:29 pm
RELEASE: 07-25
NASA'S SHUTTLE ATLANTIS ROLLS TO VEHICLE ASSEMBLY BUILDING
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - NASA's space shuttle Atlantis completed a
milestone to move it one step closer to a targeted March launch.
Early Wednesday drivers moved Atlantis from the Orbiter Processing
Facility to the Vehicle Assembly Building at NASA's Kennedy Space
Center in Florida. Atlantis, perched on top of the giant, 76-wheel
Crawler-Transporter, began its move at 6:19 a.m. EST. It arrived in
the Vehicle Assembly Building at 7:24 a.m.
In the assembly building, technicians will attach Atlantis to its
propulsion elements, an external fuel tank and twin solid rocket
boosters. Following those operations, final integration, preparations
and closeouts will begin in preparation for flight.
The next milestone for Atlantis is the 3.4-mile trip to Launch Pad 39A
in preparation for its 11-day mission, designated STS-117, to
continue construction of the International Space Station. The crew's
six astronauts will install a new truss segment, retract a set of
solar arrays and unfold a new set on the starboard side of the
station. Lessons learned from two previous missions will provide the
astronauts with new techniques and tools to perform their duties.
News media are invited to attend the rollout of Atlantis to the launch
pad, scheduled for Wednesday, Feb. 14. First motion of the vehicle
out of the building is targeted for 7 a.m.
The Kennedy News Center will open for media activities Wednesday at 6
a.m. Reporters are asked to be ready for transportation to the
assembly building by 6:30 a.m. Since dates and times of this event
are subject to change, updates are available by calling 321-867-2525.
Permanently badged media interested in attending this event are asked
to contact the press site at 321-867-2468 by Tuesday, Feb 13. Media
without Kennedy credentials should submit requests via the
accreditation Web site at:
https://media.ksc.nasa.gov
NASA TV will provide live coverage of the rollout of Atlantis to the
launch pad beginning at 7 a.m. EST Wednesday, Feb. 14. For NASA TV
downlink, streaming video and scheduling information, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/ntv
For more information on the STS-117 mission and crew, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/shuttle
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paulhbell07 - 7/2/2007 6:14 PM
Are they going to leave her there all night or are they working through the night.
It's a 24/7 operation between now and rollout. ;)
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shuttlefan - 7/2/2007 7:17 PMI seem to recall reading a post here that some work is done during specific shifts...they've done lift to mate operations for at least one of these recent missions at this time of the day, IIRC...
It's a 24/7 operation between now and rollout. ;)
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Chris Bergin - 7/2/2007 5:20 PMQuoteMySDCUserID - 7/2/2007 11:18 PM
Why is it saying wankers? I thought that was purely a UK insult.
She's English, it's a big secret ;) Shame on you for saying "it" :o ;)
I'm sorry, but I just feel wierd calling inanimate objects "he" or "she". Call me crazy.
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MySDCUserID - 7/2/2007 8:08 PMQuoteChris Bergin - 7/2/2007 5:20 PMQuoteMySDCUserID - 7/2/2007 11:18 PM
Why is it saying wankers? I thought that was purely a UK insult.
She's English, it's a big secret ;) Shame on you for saying "it" :o ;)
I'm sorry, but I just feel wierd calling inanimate objects "he" or "she". Call me crazy.
Not crazy, just inaccurate. They are shes, and if you're not sure why, then I would suggest you google it or search the thread which explains it on this site. You'll of noticed both Griffin and Leinbach refered to them as shes during the post flight press brief after 116.
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Jim - 7/2/2007 6:48 PM
Major lifts are done second shift when there are less people around
What times does second shift run between?
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Sphereion - 7/2/2007 10:52 PM
An amazing sight to see how high they lift her!
I was surprised the first time I found out they don't move her horizontally and mate her. Rather, they lift her up higher than the whole stack and lower her to the tank.
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marsguy - 7/2/2007 10:50 PM
Interesting...I didn't know that the CT was already in the VAB at this point.
That's how they got the MLP inside ;) But yeah, it usually stays there the whole time they're getting ready to haul an orbiter out to the pad. I'm not sure the VAB has pedestals for the MLP to rest on but I could easily be mistaken. Someone correct me if I am indeed wrong about that. I imagine she's about to be lowered to the rest of the stack.
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nathan.moeller - 8/2/2007 6:00 AMOnly the MLP is in the VAB right now. The crawler rolls into the high bay on rollout day.Quotemarsguy - 7/2/2007 10:50 PM
Interesting...I didn't know that the CT was already in the VAB at this point.
That's how they got the MLP inside ;)
Post by: punkboi on 02/08/2007 06:34 am
Atlantis part of the stack
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DaveS - 8/2/2007 12:55 AM
Only the MLP is in the VAB right now. The crawler rolls into the high bay on rollout day.
Whoops :o Must have mistaken some shapes in the image for the crawler, and I was indeed wrong about the VAB not having pad pedestals. Thanks for the images guys. Great to see her being stacked up again.
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Post by: Wisi on 02/08/2007 02:24 pm
Which building is the OPF? The one at the very left of the image?
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/08/2007 02:58 pm
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/photos/photo-main.asp?viewmember=2585
Awesome.
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pad rat - 8/2/2007 9:27 AM
It takes roughly 24 hrs. from the time the orbiter rolls into the VAB until the time "hard mate" is complete. Just getting the orbiter into position beside the ET and soft-mating the aft attachment posts takes about 12-14 hrs. Installing the bolts is a tedious process that really eats up time.
I've created a photo album of photos I took during some lift/mate operations several years ago. Look at the S0004 album.
Now THAT's what I'm talking about. No need for coffee this morning, cool photos will do it for me!
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Wisi - 8/2/2007 9:24 AM
Great image, thanks for sharing!
Which building is the OPF? The one at the very left of the image?
Yes that's OPF Bay 1. Endeavour is in Bay 2 right next to it. Bay 3 houses Discovery just across the road and down a bit.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/08/2007 03:37 pm
Doing an article to round up where we are.
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pad rat - 8/2/2007 10:27 AMThanks for posting these here, Mr. Rat ;)
It takes roughly 24 hrs. from the time the orbiter rolls into the VAB until the time "hard mate" is complete. Just getting the orbiter into position beside the ET and soft-mating the aft attachment posts takes about 12-14 hrs. Installing the bolts is a tedious process that really eats up time.
I've created a photo album of photos I took during some lift/mate operations several years ago. Look at the S0004 album.
There was a recent question about the SRB hold downs that I think you have some good shots of...
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Launch Fan - 8/2/2007 10:09 AM Nice looking USA engineer! Great photos Mr Pad Rat!!
Off-topic, but here's a Blog by another nice-looking NASA employee (possibly the same lady in the pic above?). I envy her (because she has close access to shuttles) ;)
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Chris Bergin - 8/2/2007 9:58 AM
Oh wow, Pad Rat! :)
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/photos/photo-main.asp?viewmember=2585
Awesome.
Pad Rat rules. As close as anyone of us nobodies will ever get to a Shuttle!
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Joey - 9/2/2007 12:28 AM
I'm hoping this isn't a really dumb question - but - monoball installation I take is the actual point where the shuttle mates with the ET, right? How exactly is this done? (I'm picturing a guy squeezing in between the shuttle and ET with a wrench . . . ;) )
Very carefully ;) I think they just make very subtle movements with the crane to inch the orbiter closer and closer to the tank until it presses hard enough against the attach points to form a hard mate, then handy-work takes over from there.
Post by: eeergo on 02/09/2007 08:35 am
There are some high resolution images about the mating operations at http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=71... although not nearly as detailed as pad rat's, they're only the usual PAO stuff :) Anyhow:
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Jonesy STS - 9/2/2007 5:20 AM
There must be a lot of different stress points on the orbiter with that lift. Are the attach points loaded through major beams of the substructure?
No beams, the fuselage is the major structural component of the orbiter. The attach points of the sling are near the interface of the fuselage to forward and aft structures, which provide strength to the fuselage
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SimonShuttle - 9/2/2007 2:38 PM
I bet they were neavous the first time they lifted the orbiter in the VAB. You really don't want to go dropping that!
They did tests with Pathfinder (I think) at MSFC. There's an image somewhere of a tall building and a crane on the side lifting Pathfinder.
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S3/S4 Truss Segment Solar Arrays
Vehicle: Atlantis (OV-104)
Location: Vehicle Assembly Building High Bay 1
Launch Date: Targeted for March 15, 2007
Launch Pad: 39A
Crew: Sturckow, Archambault, Reilly, Swanson, Forrester and Olivas
Inclination/Orbit Altitude: 51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles
On Wednesday, Atlantis rolled from the Orbiter Processing Facility to
the Vehicle Assembly Building, where it was lifted into high bay 1
and mated to the external fuel tank. Orbiter power application is
scheduled for Sunday. Close-out operations continue on the fuel tank
and solid rocket boosters, with thermal protection system foam
trimming under way.
The STS-117 payload is scheduled to be transferred to Launch Pad 39A
on Monday. The shuttle is set to roll out to the pad on Feb. 14.
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pad rat - 9/2/2007 1:39 PM
7/20/99. Don't remember how close it came, but I'm pretty sure it never breached the pad perimeter. I think the photo came from Florida Today. I was in the cockpit at the pad one day when the tornado warning sounded. we were told to sit tight, as it was likely the safest place to be.
One word: YIKES!! Thanks for sharing that Pad Rat. Scary, yet great, photo.
EDIT: Have they established a target time for rollout next Wednesday? If so, how will the four-hour setback factor in?
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nathan.moeller - 9/2/2007 10:36 PM7 am EST.
EDIT: Have they established a target time for rollout next Wednesday? If so, how will the four-hour setback factor in?
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Rocket Ronnie - 9/2/2007 2:44 PMYeah, that was after the cutoff the night before due to the spike in the hazardous gas collector readings in the MPS a few seconds before engine start...interestingly, I would have been in the general area that day and at the visitor's center earlier, but I don't remember seeing anything that bad. The weather was also probably different enough in Titusville or Cocoa at the time. A water spout or funnel cloud would have been memorable in a soil-the-trousers way for a tornado newbie like me.
Wow. That's a close one and no protection from the RSS.
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shuttlefan - 10/2/2007 4:10 PM
Is there a chance Chris could provide a little snippet from the internal status report, covering events such as when the vehicle is to be powered up for the interface test in the vab, etc.? ;)
That wouldn't be something such things on L2 cover by way of those reports. Daily Ops reports outline what happened over the previous shift and the shift to come, for instance, from one of those last week:
"OV-104 (STS-117)/VAB HB-1
First Motion for Atlantis from OPF Bay 1 occurred at 0619 hrs. Following a successful journey, Atlantis was spotted in the VAB at 0727 hrs.
S0004 Status:
Operations are currently tracking about 4 hours down from the original timeline mostly due to a timeout called for a fall abatement issue with the 1268 stand. The issue was resolved and operations have continued well since.
Sling Mate to the Orbiter was completed at 1455 hrs.
Orbiter Lift to Vertical and Aft spreader beam removal were completed at 1849 hrs.
BCI Photos of the Left and Right hand wing RCC panels were completed at 2025 hrs.
Orbiter lift up and over into position for mate was completed at 0118 hrs.
AFT Soft Mate is currently in-work and is expected to be completed by 0700 hrs.
CCF reported a GN2 leak at the High Pressure GN2 Pipeline valve yard. The leak was located at a 4 inch line near a relief valve. ALAC GN2 high pressure supply to the VAB, PAD A and PAD B was been shut off due to this leak. A Nitrogen recharger was used to pump up the facility GN2 pressures at all three facilities. Leak repair will be worked today.
SRB AFT BSM TPS Trimming will be continuing today; there are 2 issues that the SRB element is working to resolve:
On the right stack, dimension in one area on the top of one nozzle (measured from the outer edge of the nozzle inward) is 0.800 (approx.) should be 0.815 in.
Difficulty getting measurements of BTA thickness over the retaining ring. The surface of the nozzle is not as flat as other areas, which is causing the micrometer to rock. TPS Ops and Quality Assurance personnel were evaluating issues and how to address them yesterday.
The STS-117 S0044 Launch Countdown Simulation was successfully accomplished yesterday."
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shuttlefan - 11/2/2007 12:51 AM
Anyone know what time tomorrow powerup for the Shuttle Interface Test is scheduled?
I'll copy it across when the newest info comes in tomorrow morning.
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shuttlefan - 10/2/2007 6:51 PM
Anyone know what time tomorrow powerup for the Shuttle Interface Test is scheduled?
Powerup should be this afternoon around 3pm Eastern for the Interface Test (S0008).
Mark Kirkman
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mkirk - 11/2/2007 10:42 AMThanks, Mark!!Quoteshuttlefan - 10/2/2007 6:51 PM
Anyone know what time tomorrow powerup for the Shuttle Interface Test is scheduled?
Powerup should be this afternoon around 3pm Eastern for the Interface Test (S0008).
Mark Kirkman
Approx. how many people would be staffing the Firing Room consoles for the powerup today?
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shuttlefan - 11/2/2007 7:30 PMCTS is usually 30 minutes prior to the op. So CTS for S0008 would be at 2:30 pm EST.
Approx. how many people would be staffing the Firing Room consoles for the powerup today?
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Gerald Andrew Richli - 11/2/2007 10:48 PMThey usually tries to get the PL transported before 6 am EST.
What time will the S3/S4 payload be moved to Pad 39A Monday?
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Gerald Andrew Richli - 12/2/2007 11:01 AM
It is raining in KSC according to Murphy's Law. Are they still transporting the STS-117 payload to Pad 39A or is it being Delayed?
I'm trying to find out..... will update when I know more :)
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Chris Bergin - 12/2/2007 12:04 PMI thought I noticed the Payload Transportation Canister earlier at 1:41 am EST on Camera 1 here: http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/camera1/Camera1Java.htmQuoteGerald Andrew Richli - 12/2/2007 11:01 AM
Are they still transporting the STS-117 payload to Pad 39A or is it being Delayed?
I'm trying to find out..... will update when I know more :)
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UK Shuttle Clan - 12/2/2007 7:24 AM
If no one was watching, he could pull of a good handbrake turn around that corner in the wet ;)
Haha true. A little wetness and a lot of mass can do wonders ;)
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Gerald Andrew Richli - 12/2/2007 3:52 PMNothing unusual. The STS-116/12A.1 payload to pad transfer was delayed 2 days due unfavourable weather conditions.
S3/S4 delivery to Pad 39A is probably delayed due to Rain.
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... unless it made it to the pad early. Looking at the Radar (from camera 4) it looks like the rain didn't really move in until 6:30 or so and don't payloads usually go to the pad before 6?
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Chandonn - 12/2/2007 9:31 AM
"S3/S4 will probably move to Pad 39A either tomorrow (Tuesday) or Thursday. Wednesday is STS-117 Rollout Day."
... unless it made it to the pad early. Looking at the Radar (from camera 4) it looks like the rain didn't really move in until 6:30 or so and don't payloads usually go to the pad before 6?
Most payload transits I've seen are in the middle of the night. The image on the previous page of this thread shows the canister passing the VAB around 1:41 AM EST this morning. I think it's at the pad. It was scheduled to make the trip today anyway.
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nathan.moeller - 12/2/2007 10:34 AMQuoteChandonn - 12/2/2007 9:31 AM
"S3/S4 will probably move to Pad 39A either tomorrow (Tuesday) or Thursday. Wednesday is STS-117 Rollout Day."
... unless it made it to the pad early. Looking at the Radar (from camera 4) it looks like the rain didn't really move in until 6:30 or so and don't payloads usually go to the pad before 6?
Most payload transits I've seen are in the middle of the night. The image on the previous page of this thread shows the canister passing the VAB around 1:41 AM EST this morning. I think it's at the pad. It was scheduled to make the trip today anyway.
So THAT'S what that was in the picture. I was trying to make it out. Thanks!
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/12/2007 02:40 pm
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Post by: Jim on 02/12/2007 02:49 pm
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berni - 12/2/2007 10:44 AM
why do they transfer the canister in the middle of the night to the pad? thermal reasons? due to the low traffic at that time?
Low traffic, low winds, in the summer, it's cooler. But most of all, it allows all of 1st shift to preform the canister lift. Mush smaller crew needed for the canister transport vs canister lift, hence the larger crew is on 1st shift and not overtime
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/12/2007 02:50 pm
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Jim - 12/2/2007 9:49 AM
Low traffic, low winds, in the summer, it's cooler. But most of all, it allows all of 1st shift to preform the canister lift. Mush smaller crew needed for the canister transport vs canister lift, hence the larger crew is on 1st shift and not overtime
Oh, a wages-saver ;)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/12/2007 02:55 pm
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Chandonn - 12/2/2007 3:41 PM
Thanks! I was thinking NASA needs better webcams. I continually tell people NASA is always first when they cut government budgets.
I don't think they believe anyone is watching the webcams to be honest.
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/12/2007 03:07 pm
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Chris Bergin - 12/2/2007 9:55 AMQuoteChandonn - 12/2/2007 3:41 PM
Thanks! I was thinking NASA needs better webcams. I continually tell people NASA is always first when they cut government budgets.
I don't think they believe anyone is watching the webcams to be honest.
He's absolutely right. If millions were tuned into these things they might upgrade them. But these work just fine for us ;)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/12/2007 03:14 pm
"S0600, Payload delivery and installation status:
Payload delivery to the Pad occurred this morning at 0254 hrs.
The canister lift began at 0540 hrs this morning. "
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/12/2007 03:15 pm
Post by: Chandonn on 02/12/2007 03:35 pm
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Chris Bergin - 12/2/2007 10:55 AMQuoteChandonn - 12/2/2007 3:41 PM
Thanks! I was thinking NASA needs better webcams. I continually tell people NASA is always first when they cut government budgets.
I don't think they believe anyone is watching the webcams to be honest.
SO who do we have to write to to tell them that they have a captive audience? ;)
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/12/2007 04:00 pm
Post by: Gerald Andrew Richli on 02/12/2007 04:18 pm
Post by: DaveS on 02/12/2007 05:49 pm
Post by: DaveS on 02/12/2007 08:12 pm
February 14, Wednesday
7 a.m. - Space Shuttle Atlantis Rollout to Launch Pad - KSC (Media Channel)
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Post by: DaveS on 02/13/2007 10:56 am
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FransonUK - 13/2/2007 12:44 PMNot only that, the preflight media briefings at JSC that runs all day. So I'm not sure how the live coverage on NASA TV of the rollout will be handled.
Going to be a busy Thursday at this rate. There's also a JAXA launch!
Could any of you guys down at KSC ask how they plan to handle this situation?
Post by: Mark Dave on 02/13/2007 11:12 am
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/13/2007 11:37 am
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Gerald Andrew Richli - 13/2/2007 12:27 PM
In a worse case scenario, to replace valve, this could delay STS-117 until about April 20, 2007 at the earliest if atlantis has to be demated and taken back to OPF for valve replacement. I hope that it is not the case. :)
We don't know what the issue is yet (hope to in an hour or so). They can do a lot in the vertical, and the question could be whether they can do it on the pad or in the VAB, rather than the OPF.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/13/2007 11:48 am
Post by: DaveS on 02/13/2007 12:31 pm
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Chris Bergin - 13/2/2007 1:48 PMWith this you mean the IVT?
At 06:35 local, interfacing was continuing.
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DaveS - 13/2/2007 1:31 PMQuoteChris Bergin - 13/2/2007 1:48 PMWith this you mean the IVT?
At 06:35 local, interfacing was continuing.
That is literally all I was sent from the recorded quick look line for media. No reference to rollout was mentioned.
Post by: lsullivan411 on 02/13/2007 12:34 pm
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Terry Rocket - 13/2/2007 7:25 AM Can anyone list the times of Thursday's events, from rollout to the launches and press events, so I can plan my day? :)
This is taken from NTV schedule:
February 15, Thursday
7 a.m. - Space Shuttle Atlantis Rollout to Launch Pad - KSC (Media Channel)
8:15 a.m. - STS-117 B-Roll and Animation Feed - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
9 a.m. - STS-117 Preflight Program Overview Briefing - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
10:30 a.m. - STS-117 Preflight Mission Overview Briefing - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
12:30 p.m. - STS-117 Preflight Spacewalk Overview Briefing - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
2 p.m. - STS-117 Preflight Crew News Conference - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
4 p.m. - THEMIS Launch Coverage Begins (Launch Window 6:08 - 6:27 p.m.) - KSC (Public and Media Channels)
As to the JAXA launch someone else would have to add that, I'm not sure.
Hope this helps! (All times ET by the way).
Post by: DaveS on 02/13/2007 12:38 pm
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Chris Bergin - 13/2/2007 2:32 PMOK: Just to clear up any confusion regarding terms: with IVT I meant the Vehicle Interface Test also called S0008.QuoteDaveS - 13/2/2007 1:31 PMQuoteChris Bergin - 13/2/2007 1:48 PMWith this you mean the IVT?
At 06:35 local, interfacing was continuing.
That is literally all I was sent from the recorded quick look line for media. No reference to rollout was mentioned.
Post by: DaveS on 02/13/2007 01:07 pm
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/13/2007 01:17 pm
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DaveS - 13/2/2007 8:07 AM
Also how long can the rollout be delayed before it will start impacting the ability the launch date?
Last I heard all processing flows were red so if that's true every day they delay pushes the date back. I could be wrong but that's what I heard last. Hale said something to the effect of "if we push the launch date back a few days, so be it."
Post by: shuttlefan on 02/13/2007 01:21 pm
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nathan.moeller - 13/2/2007 8:17 AMQuoteDaveS - 13/2/2007 8:07 AM
Also how long can the rollout be delayed before it will start impacting the ability the launch date?
Last I heard all processing flows were red so if that's true every day they delay pushes the date back. I could be wrong but that's what I heard last. Hale said something to the effect of "if we push the launch date back a few days, so be it."
Better safe than sorry. We have approx. 15 more flights of this vehicle left in the next 4 years. That's a tall order. If, in the worst-case scenario, STS-117 would experience a long ( possibly 1 month or more ) launch delay, that's OK. We must continue to look at the Shuttle as an extremely-experimental vehicle. We must stay vigilant!! ;)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/13/2007 01:48 pm
Right Hand booster is the problem. Going to try and write it up.
Rollout delayed 24 hours and being reviewed.
Going after ATK's morning report for more info.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/13/2007 01:57 pm
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nathan.moeller - 13/2/2007 2:17 PM
Last I heard all processing flows were red
Not correct.
Slide from L2 on the PRCB last Thursday:
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/13/2007 02:08 pm
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/13/2007 03:29 pm
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5021
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/13/2007 04:44 pm
Post by: Mark Dave on 02/13/2007 06:45 pm
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MarkD - 13/2/2007 7:45 PM
So everything is set for Thursday morning's roll to the pad?
At present. Review is ongoing.
Post by: Mark Dave on 02/13/2007 07:09 pm
Post by: alan w on 02/13/2007 07:17 pm
How common is a looong delay as opposed to a delay of days?
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MarkD - 13/2/2007 9:09 PMThen only expect to see the first hour or so of it as there's a conflict with preflight media breifings from JSC which starts at 8:15 am EST and lasts all day.
I hope it is a go for Thursday as I want to see it live.
Post by: Mark Dave on 02/13/2007 07:26 pm
Post by: Flightstar on 02/13/2007 08:24 pm
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alan w - 13/2/2007 2:17 PM
Iv'e got everything crossed that it goes on the 15th March as im flying over from the U.K. to watch the launch. Flights , hotels, car hire etc is all booked around that date! A few days delay is palatable but anything more than that and im scuppered.
How common is a looong delay as opposed to a delay of days?
Don't worry, this won't be a major delay. NET 15th is still green.
Post by: Shuttle Man on 02/13/2007 08:35 pm
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Flightstar - 13/2/2007 3:24 PMQuotealan w - 13/2/2007 2:17 PM
Iv'e got everything crossed that it goes on the 15th March as im flying over from the U.K. to watch the launch. Flights , hotels, car hire etc is all booked around that date! A few days delay is palatable but anything more than that and im scuppered.
How common is a looong delay as opposed to a delay of days?
Don't worry, this won't be a major delay. NET 15th is still green.
Thanks that takes a load of my mind, still gonna keep eveything crossed though!! :)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/13/2007 09:42 pm
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Gerald Andrew Richli - 14/2/2007 7:39 AM
Replacing a SRB Sensor in the VAB? If so, how long would it take?
The OPT (Operational Pressure Transducer) doesn't have a timeline for R&R yet, but they have to be sure it's that.
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