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Title: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 04/04/2024 07:57 pm
Thread for the Starlink Group 8-2 launch.

Launch 10 May 2024 at 04:30:00 UTC (9 May 9:30 pm PDT), from Vandenberg SLC-4E, on booster 1082-4.  The first stage successfully landed aboard Of Course I Still Love You.

Payload 20 Starlink V2.0 Mini satellites, 13 of which are Direct-to-Cell, to a 53 degree inclination orbit on a southeastern trajectory.  Initial orbit 286 x 295 km.

Please use the Starlink Discussion Thread (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=0.0) for all general discussion on Starlink.

Check the Starlink Index Thread (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=0.0) for links to more Starlink information.



L2 SpaceX: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=60.0 (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=60.0)
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : NET April 2024
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 04/04/2024 08:15 pm
Cross-post:
More Starlinks from Vandy, NET March [7]
0179-EX-ST-2024 (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=131523&RequestTimeout=1000)  Mission 2103 Starlink Group 8-2
<snip>
ASDS       
North  29  52  50   West  116  45  3

Currently, launch is NET April.

Starlink 8-1 is currently scheduled to launch April 6 UTC.

WorldView Legion Flight 1 will launch in mid April, and USSF-62 will launch in April.

We don't know if Starlink 8-2 or 7-19 has precedence over the other.

So, is this launch NET mid April, with maybe room for one more Starlink launch before an outside customer?

Edit April 11: Starlink 8-1 launched April 6 UTC, and USSF-62 launched April 11.

Edit April 12: WorldView Legion Flight 1 is next.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 27/28 April 2024 (02:54 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 04/23/2024 01:00 am
NextSpaceflight (https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7498); updated April 22:
Launch 28 April 02:54 UTC = 27 April 7:54 pm PDT



Which first stage will be used for this launch?  (semi-rhetorical question)

Falcon 9 first stages are apparently now cleared for use up to twenty times for non-human spaceflight missions, although that number is apparently more restricted for Cargo Dragon and Cygnus than these other payloads.

Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1061.20   Feb 23  (likely WorldView Legion Flight 1)
1063.18   Mar 11
1075.11   Mar 19
1071.16   Apr 2    (maybe)
1081.7     Apr 7
1082.4     Apr 11

Edit May 7: It's B1082.4, skipping over all the other available first stages: B1063.18, B1075.11, B1071.16, and B1081.7.

Edited
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 27/28 April 2024 (02:54 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/23/2024 02:17 am
Source of early April 28 UTC launch date:

A0603/24 NOTAMN
Q) SEFG/QXXLW/IV/NBO/AE/000/999/0000S00000W005
A) SEXX B) 2404280433 C) 2405040906
D) APR 28 AND 29 0433-0901, APR 30 0434-0902, MAY 01 0435-0903, MAY 02
0436-0904, MAY 03 0437-0905 AND MAY 04 0438-0906
E) SPACEX FALCON 9 STARLINK 8-2 STAGE 2 REENTRY AND SPLASHDOWN IN THE
UNASSIGNED FIR, SECT DELIMITED BY THE FOLLOWING COORD 0119S 11654W,
0010S 11517W, 1500S 10441W, 1500S 10724W, 0119S 11654W. CTN
F) SFC G) UNL


R0069/24 NOTAMN
Q) SCIZ/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2300S09700W715
A) SCIZ B) 2404280433 C) 2405040906
D) DLY BTN 0433-0906
E) ZONE ...D... SECT WEST PACIFIC DUE TO RE-ENTRY FALCON 9 STARLINK
8-2 STAGE 2 REENTRY ACTIVITY
. THE AREA IS BOUNDED BY GEO COORD:
1500S 10724W
1500S 10441W
3122S 09024W
3420S 09024W
1500S 10724W
INSTRUCTIONS: SANTIAGO OCEANIC CONTROL 10024 KHZ FANS 1A EQUIPPED
ACFT LOG ON SCEZ
INFO PROVIDED BY SPACE X OPS, USA
F) SFC G) UNL
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 27/28 April 2024 (02:54 UTC)
Post by: Ken the Bin on 04/23/2024 12:21 pm
NGA Space Debris notice that is effectively a Rocket Launching notice and two S2 reentry Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas).

Note that the two S2 Space Debris notices run through May 17 (00:01 UTC on May 18) so they are apparently intended to be multi-launch notices.

Quote from: NGA
230537Z APR 24
NAVAREA XII 271/24(21).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
MEXICO.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   280254Z TO 280725Z, 290254Z TO 290725Z,
   300255Z TO 300726Z APR, 010256Z TO 010727Z,
   020257Z TO 020728Z, 030258Z TO 030729Z
   AND 040259Z TO 040730Z MAY
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   30-39.00N 117-24.00W, 30-41.00N 117-19.00W,
   30-04.00N 116-28.00W, 29-42.00N 116-06.00W,
   29-18.00N 115-56.00W, 28-58.00N 116-22.00W,
   29-12.00N 116-48.00W, 29-32.00N 117-06.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 040830Z MAY 24.//
Quote from: NGA
230725Z APR 24
HYDROPAC 1326/24(22).
EASTERN SOUTH PACIFIC.
DNC 06, DNC 07.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   280400Z APR TO 180001Z MAY
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   34-20.00S 090-24.00W, 31-22.00S 090-24.00W,
   00-10.00S 115-17.00W, 01-19.00S 116-54.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 180101Z MAY 24.//
Quote from: NGA
230725Z APR 24
NAVAREA XII 272/24(22).
EASTERN SOUTH PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   280400Z APR TO 180001Z MAY
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   34-20.00S 090-24.00W, 31-22.00S 090-24.00W,
   00-10.00S 115-17.00W, 01-19.00S 116-54.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 180101Z MAY 24.//
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : NET 28/29 April 2024 (02:54 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 04/24/2024 04:32 pm
WorldView Legion Flight 1:
NOTAMs for today have been canceled, now NET [April 25]:
Quote
!CARF 04/280 ZLA AIRSPACE DCC SX DIGITAL GLOBE-1 24-15 AREA A STNR
ALT RESERVATION WI AN AREA DEFINED AS 343900N1204200W TO
343900N1203200W TO 343400N1203200W TO 334100N1205300W TO
320400N1214900W TO 321600N1220000W TO 334600N1210800W TO POINT OF
ORIGIN SFC-UNL 2404251830-2404251922

A day-for-day delay of this launch can be expected.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : NET 28/29 April 2024 (02:54 UTC)
Post by: Ken the Bin on 04/24/2024 08:30 pm
All of the NGA notices for this launch and also for WorldView Legion Flight 1 have been canceled TBD.

Here are the cancellations for this launch.

Quote from: NGA
241905Z APR 24
NAVAREA XII 277/24(21).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
MEXICO.
CANCEL NAVAREA XII 271/24 AND THIS MSG.
Quote from: NGA
241912Z APR 24
HYDROPAC 1357/24(22).
EASTERN SOUTH PACIFIC.
DNC 06, DNC 07.
CANCEL HYDROPAC 1326/24 AND THIS MSG.
Quote from: NGA
241912Z APR 24
NAVAREA XII 278/24(22).
EASTERN SOUTH PACIFIC.
CANCEL NAVAREA XII 272/24 AND THIS MSG.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : TBD 2024
Post by: GewoonLukas_ on 04/25/2024 04:39 pm
Rescheduled for Star Wars Day (May 4th) according to this NOTAM:

Quote
R0071/24 NOTAMN
Q) SCIZ/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2300S09700W715
A) SCIZ B) 2405040438 C) 2405100855
D) MAY 04 0438-0906/ 05 0439-0907/ 06 0427-0855/07 0427-0855
MAY 08 0427-0855/ 09 0427-0855/ 10 0427-0855
E) ZONE ...D... SECT WEST PACIFIC DUE TO RE-ENTRY FALCON 9 STARLINK
8-2
STAGE 2 REENTRY ACTIVITY. THE AREA IS BOUNDED BY GEO COORD:
1500S 10724W
1500S 10441W
3122S 09024W
3420S 09024W
1500S 10724W
INSTRUCTIONS: SANTIAGO OCEANIC CONTROL 10024 KHZ FANS 1A EQUIPPED
ACFT LOG ON SCEZ
INFO PROVIDED BY SPACE X OPS, USA
F) SFC G) UNL

A0618/24 NOTAMR A0603/24
Q) SEFG/QXXLW/IV/NBO/AE/000/999/0010S11654W005
A) SEXX B) 2405040438 C) 2405100855
D) MAY 04 0438-0906, MAY 05 0439-0907 AND MAY 06-10 0427-0855
E) SPACEX FALCON 9 STARLINK 8-2 STAGE 2 REENTRY AND SPLASHDOWN IN THE
UNASSIGNED FIR, SECT DELIMITED BY THE FOLLOWING COORD 0119S 11654W,
0010S 11517W, 1500S 10441W, 1500S 10724W, 0119S 11654W. CTN
F) SFC G) UNL
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : NET 4 May 2024
Post by: OneSpeed on 04/25/2024 10:03 pm
NGA Space Debris notice that is effectively a Rocket Launching notice and two S2 reentry Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas).

Maps from the NGA notices. ASDS 642km downrange.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 3/4 May 2024 (02:59 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 04/25/2024 11:58 pm
NextSpaceflight (https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7498); updated April 25:
Launch 4 May 02:59 UTC = 3 May 7:59 pm PDT
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 3/4 May 2024 (02:59 UTC)
Post by: john57sharp on 04/27/2024 08:16 am
If both launches happen on time, this turnaround will be under three days for SLC-4E, a new record I think.
John
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 3/4 May 2024 (02:59 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/27/2024 09:22 am
NextSpaceflight (https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7498); updated April 25:
Launch 4 May 02:59 UTC = 3 May 7:59 pm PDT

B0328/24 NOTAMR B0327/24
Q) MMFR/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/
A) MMFR
B) 2405040259
C) 2405100719
D) 04 0259-0730, 05 0300-0731, 06 07 08 09 10 0248-0719
E) DANGEROUS AREA FOR REENTRY OF ROCKET STARLINK 8-2
   LATERAL LIMIT AREA FORMED BY THE UNION OF THE FLW POINTS:
   
   30 41N  117 28W
   29 32N  117 06W
   29 12N  116 48W
   28 58N  116 22W
   29 18N  115 56W
   29 42N  116 06W
   30 04N  116 28W
   30 45N  117 21W
   30 41N  117 28W
   MMFR
F) SFC
G) UNL
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 3/4 May 2024 (02:59 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/02/2024 06:59 pm
Slipped all the way to May 8th UTC/7th PDT it seems:

A0686/24 NOTAMR A0618/24
Q) SEFG/QXXLW/IV/NBO/AE/000/999/0010S11654W005
A) SEXX B) 2405080427 C) 2405140914
D) MAY 08-10 0427-0855, MAY 11-12 0444-0912, MAY 13 0445-0913 AND MAY
14 0446-0914
E) SPACEX FALCON 9 STARLINK 8-2 STAGE 2 REENTRY AND SPLASHDOWN IN THE
UNASSIGNED FIR, SECT DELIMITED BY THE FOLLOWING COORD 0119S 11654W,
0010S 11517W, 1500S 10441W, 1500S 10724W, 0119S 11654W. CTN
F) SFC G) UNL


R0078/24 NOTAMN
Q) SCIZ/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2300S09700W715
A) SCIZ B) 2405080427 C) 2405140914
D) MAY 08 0427-0855/ 09 0427-0855/ 10 0427-0855
MAY 11 0444-0912/ 12 0444-0912/ 13 0445-0913 / 14 0446-0914
E) ZONE ...D... SECT WEST PACIFIC DUE TO RE-ENTRY FALCON 9 STARLINK
8-2 STAGE 2 REENTRY ACTIVITY
. THE AREA IS BOUNDED BY GEO COORD:
1500S 10724W
1500S 10441W
3122S 09024W
3420S 09024W TO BEGINNING
F) GND G) UNL
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 7/8 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: Ken the Bin on 05/03/2024 01:30 am
NGA Space Debris notice that is effectively a Rocket Launching notice.

Quote from: NGA
030049Z MAY 24
NAVAREA XII 302/24(21).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
MEXICO.
1 HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS 0248Z TO 0601Z
   DAILY 08 THRU 10 MAY, 0305Z TO 0601Z DAILY
   11 THRU 14 MAY IN AREA BOUND BY
   30-04.00N 116-28.00W, 30-41.00N 117-19.00W,
   30-39.00N 117-24.00W, 29-32.00N 117-06.00W,
   29-12.00N 116-48.00W, 28-58.00N 116-22.00W,
   29-18.00N 115-56.00W, 29-42.00N 116-06.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 140701Z MAY 24.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 7/8 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: Ken the Bin on 05/03/2024 03:06 am
NGA Space Debris notice.

Note that the Space Debris notice that is effectively a Rocket Launching notice runs through May 14. This actual Space Debris notice runs through May 18. I don't know why the additional days. That's only long enough to be a multi-launch notice if 8-2 launches towards the beginning of its launch period.

Note also that this notice only has dates and no times. If I were a mariner I would interpret that to mean all day, however I don't know whether that's an official convention or whether this notice should be considered in error.

Quote from: NGA
030128Z MAY 24
NAVAREA XII 303/24(22).
EASTERN SOUTH PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS 08 TO 18 MAY
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   00-10.00S 115-17.00W, 01-19.00S 116-54.00W,
   34-20.00S 090-24.00W, 31-22.00S 090-24.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 180100Z MAY 24.

Edit - The same notice was issued for a different Navigational Area. (It's common for identical Space Debris notices to be issued for two different Navigational Areas, but they are usually issued at the same time.)

Quote from: NGA
031439Z MAY 24
HYDROPAC 1482/24(22).
EASTERN SOUTH PACIFIC.
DNC 06, DNC 07.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS 08 TO 18 MAY
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   00-10.00S 115-17.00W, 01-19.00S 116-54.00W,
   34-20.00S 090-24.00W, 31-22.00S 090-24.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 180100Z MAY 24.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 7/8 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: realnouns on 05/03/2024 02:41 pm
Lindsay C + OCISLY departed PoLB on May 3 @ 7:27am PT / 10:27am ET
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 7/8 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: VLN on 05/05/2024 02:41 am
I've been following the boats since May 3, because we thought it would confirm that they really meant to launch a Starlink only a day and a half after launching Maxar-1 (WorldView Legion, Digital Globe 1). We know that didn't happen. Stalwart/Lindsay C returned to port within a few hours. The NGA and FAA have announced launch windows beginning May 8 03:05 UTC.

When GO Beyond left for Maxar-1, I noticed that it had a very nearby companion, the tug Kelly C. We didn't expect to have OCISLY for Maxar-1, so I suggested Kelly C had some other purpose than towing OCISLY.

As of today, both vessels are at sea, maybe together and maybe on the way to the Starlink recovery zone. My information is severely limited because I haven't paid for access to satellite data. But the interesting thing is that the scant peeks that I can see are several hundred miles west of the Starlink 8-2 recovery zone. Not clear that it's inconsistent with a May 7 20:05 PDT launch; rather that if they are the OCISLY companion and the fairing catcher for Starlink 8-2, they're going far out of their way to reach the zone.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 7/8 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: Ken the Bin on 05/05/2024 03:29 am
<snip>
The NGA and FAA have announced launch windows beginning May 8 03:05 UTC.
<snip>
Not clear that it's inconsistent with a May 7 20:05 PDT launch; rather that if they are the OCISLY companion and the fairing catcher for Starlink 8-2, they're going far out of their way to reach the zone.

Just a point of clarification, because the line breaks in the NGA notice are in bad locations, actually the window starts at 02:48 UTC on May 8, 9, and 10, and starts at 03:05 on May 11, 12, 13, and 14.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 7/8 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/07/2024 01:59 am
24 hours slip to NET May 9 UTC:

A0721/24 NOTAMR A0686/24
Q) SEFG/QXXLW/IV/NBO/AE/000/999/0010S11654W005
A) SEXX B) 2405090427 C) 2405140737
D) MAY 09-10 0427-0737, MAY 11-12 0444-0737, MAY 13 0445-0737 AND MAY
14 0446-0737
E) SPACEX FALCON 9 STARLINK 8-2 STAGE 2 REENTRY AND SPLASHDOWN IN THE
UNASSIGNED FIR, SECT DELIMITED BY THE FOLLOWING COORD 0119S 11654W,
0010S 11517W, 1500S 10441W, 1500S 10724W, 0119S 11654W. CTN
F) SFC G) UNL
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 8/9 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: realnouns on 05/07/2024 02:10 pm
Lindsay C + OCISLY departed PoLB on May 7 @ 5:59am PT / 8:59am ET
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 8/9 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: realnouns on 05/07/2024 05:26 pm
Go Beyond departed PoLB on May 7 @ 10:02am PT / 1:02pm ET
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 8/9 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: Martin_G on 05/07/2024 08:30 pm
https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp (https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp):

Quote
SPACEX STARLINK 8-2 VANDENBERG SFB, CA
PRIMARY:   05/09/24      0248Z-0601Z
BACKUP:      05/10/24      0248Z-0601Z
      05/11/24      0305Z-0601Z
      05/12/24      0305Z-0601Z
      05/13/24      0305Z-0601Z
      05/14/24      0305Z-0601Z
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 8/9 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 05/07/2024 10:34 pm
https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1787962365457084688
Quote
CelesTrak has pre-launch SupGP data for the @Starlink Group 8-2 launch from Vandenberg SFB on 2024-05-09 at 02:48:00 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/table.php?FILE=starlink-g8-2. Deployment of 20 satellites at 03:49:33.900 UTC. We do not have individual launch opportunities at this time. Standby for updates.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 8/9 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 05/08/2024 01:53 am
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-8-2
B1082-4
9 May 02:48 to 05:30 UTC
Quote
SpaceX is targeting Wednesday, May 8 for a Falcon 9 launch of 20 Starlink satellites, including 13 with Direct to Cell capabilities, to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. Liftoff is targeted for 7:48 p.m. PT, with backup opportunities available until 10:30 p.m. PT. If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Thursday, May 9 starting at 7:48 p.m. PT.

A live webcast of this mission will begin on X @SpaceX about five minutes prior to liftoff. Watch live.

This is the fourth flight for the first stage booster supporting this mission, which previously launched USSF-62, and two Starlink missions. Following stage separation, the first stage will land on the Of Course I Still Love You droneship, which will be stationed in the Pacific Ocean.

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1787979595222011983
Quote
Up next, targeting back-to-back Falcon 9 launches of @Starlink tomorrow.

Quote
Approximately 12 hours later, another Falcon 9 will launch an additional 20 @Starlink satellites from California, including 13 with Direct to Cell capabilities → http://spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-8-2
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 8/9 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 05/08/2024 04:30 am
PDF of online press kit and link to Twitter livestream.

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1LyxBnANDLoxN
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 27/28 April 2024 (02:54 UTC)
Post by: Martin_G on 05/08/2024 07:05 am

Which first stage will be used for this launch?  (semi-rhetorical question)

[...]

Edit May 7: It's B1082.4, skipping over all the other available first stages: B1063.18, B1075.11, B1071.16, and B1081.7.

Edited

Any idea what could be the reason? More required performace out of that fairly new booster?
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 8/9 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: catdlr on 05/08/2024 07:51 am
SpaceX Broadcast Link on Twitter: https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1LyxBnANDLoxN

Space Affairs YouTube (Re-broadcast):  https://youtube.com/watch?v=sOR7QFns_n0

Replay supplied by The Space Dev's (15 min after the broadcast end):  https://youtube.com/@thespacedevs/videos

Summary Video provided by SciNews (15 min after the broadcast ends):  https://youtube.com/@SciNewsRo/videos

Landbase Coverage: https://www.youtube.com/@olivervision
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 8/9 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: catdlr on 05/08/2024 08:19 am
Weather for launch Launch Window in Red Bracket.  Winds Alof chart is not available.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 8/9 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: Ron Lee on 05/08/2024 12:10 pm
Note:  This post is updated for the new 9 May 2024 launch date in a later post.


Jellyfish alert for western US.   El Paso TX, much of AZ, Las Vegas, southwest Utah, much of CA.

Los Angeles (LA) sunset events on 8 May 2024:

1)  Sunset:   7:43 PM PDT
2)  Civil twilight:  8:10 PM PDT
3)  Nautical twilight:  8:43 PM PDT
4)  Astronomical twilight:  9:17 PM PDT

Jellyfish effects for LA (west coast) at the 7:48 PM PDT launch time may not be ideal but I would look anyway.   It should be better further east (like Arizona and southwest Utah) where the sky will be darker.  If there are backup times and the launch is delayed it improves the visibility for the coast.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 8/9 May 2024 (02:48 UTC)
Post by: edkyle99 on 05/08/2024 12:35 pm

Which first stage will be used for this launch?  (semi-rhetorical question)

[...]

Edit May 7: It's B1082.4, skipping over all the other available first stages: B1063.18, B1075.11, B1071.16, and B1081.7.

Edited

Any idea what could be the reason? More required performace out of that fairly new booster?
Only guessing, but 1082 was an LZ4 landing while the others were droneship landings (except for 1061, but that was a 20th flight and it was on May 2).  Also, I've been wondering about the 1081 post-landing fire.  The real puzzlers may be 1063 and 1075, which last flew in March.

 - Ed Kyle
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 8/9 May 2024 (02:52 UTC)
Post by: Ken the Bin on 05/08/2024 10:17 pm
Primary launch opportunity is now 02:52 UTC. The end of today's launch window and the beginning of tomorrow's launch window have also been adjusted.

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-8-2

Quote from: SpaceX
SpaceX is targeting Wednesday, May 8 for a Falcon 9 launch of 20 Starlink satellites, including 13 with Direct to Cell capabilities, to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. Liftoff is targeted for 7:52 p.m. PT, with backup opportunities available until 9:42 p.m. PT. If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Thursday, May 9 starting at 8:20 p.m. PT.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 8/9 May 2024 (03:50 UTC)
Post by: Ken the Bin on 05/08/2024 11:26 pm
Primary launch opportunity is now 03:50 UTC.

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-8-2

Quote from: SpaceX
SpaceX is targeting Wednesday, May 8 for a Falcon 9 launch of 20 Starlink satellites, including 13 with Direct to Cell capabilities, to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. Liftoff is targeted for 8:50 p.m. PT, with backup opportunities available until 9:42 p.m. PT. If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Thursday, May 9 starting at 8:20 p.m. PT.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 8/9 May 2024 (04:42 UTC)
Post by: Ken the Bin on 05/09/2024 02:19 am
Primary launch opportunity is now the end of the launch window: 04:42 UTC.

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-8-2

Quote from: SpaceX
SpaceX is targeting Wednesday, May 8 for a Falcon 9 launch of 20 Starlink satellites, including 13 with Direct to Cell capabilities, to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. Liftoff is targeted for 9:42 p.m. PT. If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Thursday, May 9 starting at 8:20 p.m. PT.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 8/9 May 2024 (04:42 UTC)
Post by: ZachS09 on 05/09/2024 03:57 am
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1788417702316634399

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Standing down from tonight's Falcon 9 launch of @Starlink satellites from California, now targeting tomorrow, May 9.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (03:20 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 05/09/2024 04:19 am
Catch-up; no comprehensive launch opportunity list for today's canceled launch.

https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1788377308388065489
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UPDATE #1: @SpaceX is now targeting the @Starlink Group 8-2 launch from Vandenberg SFB on 2024-05-09 at 03:50:00 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/table.php?FILE=starlink-g8-2. Deployment of 20 satellites is at 04:51:33.900 UTC.



https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1788415821519421644
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UPDATE #2: @SpaceX is now targeting the @Starlink Group 8-2 launch from Vandenberg SFB on 2024-05-09 at 04:42:00 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/table.php?FILE=starlink-g8-2. Deployment of 20 satellites at 05:43:33.900 UTC.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (03:20 UTC)
Post by: FutureSpaceTourist on 05/09/2024 06:04 am
https://twitter.com/tskelso/status/1788427144139591815

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UPDATE #3: @SpaceX is now targeting the @Starlink Group 8-2 launch from Vandenberg SFB on 2024-05-10 at 03:20:00 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/. Deployment of 20 satellites at 04:21:33.900 UTC. Data for 2 backup launch opportunities also provided: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/

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Starlink G8-2 Pre-Launch   
Derived from a pre-launch Starlink-G8-2 state vector, provided by SpaceX. SupGP data is provided for the entire stack, as well as one for a single satellite.
Launch: 2024-05-10 03:20:00 UTC.
Deploy: 2024-05-10 04:21:33.900 UTC.

Backup Launch Opportunity #1   
Launch: 2024-05-10 04:30:00 UTC.
Deploy: 2024-05-10 05:31:33.900 UTC.

Backup Launch Opportunity #2   
Launch: 2024-05-10 05:18:00 UTC.
Deploy: 2024-05-10 06:19:33.900 UTC.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (03:20 UTC)
Post by: catdlr on 05/09/2024 06:22 am
And SpaceX concurs

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SpaceX is targeting Thursday, May 9 for a Falcon 9 launch of 20 Starlink satellites, including 13 with Direct to Cell capabilities, to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. Liftoff is targeted for 8:20 p.m. PT, with backup opportunities available until 10:18 p.m. PT.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (03:20 UTC)
Post by: Ron Lee on 05/09/2024 01:33 pm
Jellyfish alert for western US.   El Paso TX, much of AZ, Las Vegas, southwest Utah, much of CA, western TX.

Los Angeles (LA) sunset events on 9 May 2024:

1)  Sunset:   7:43 PM PDT
2)  Civil twilight:  8:11 PM PDT
3)  Nautical twilight:  8:44 PM PDT
4)  Astronomical twilight:  9:19 PM PDT

Jellyfish effects for LA (west coast) at the 8:20 PM PDT launch time will be better than the 7:48 PM launch time on 8 May.   It will still be better further east (like Arizona and southwest Utah) where the sky will be darker.   I am interested in how far east and north it can be seen so reports with a nearby city/state would be helpful.  Another launch had a photo from Mulege, Baja California.

If the launch slips to 9:30 PM PDT, the booster and second stage may be in Earth shadow for the prime jellyfish time.   I would look anyway but don't be surprised if all you see is exhaust illuminated by the engines. 
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (03:20 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/10/2024 02:44 am
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1788757211621294554

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Less than one hour until Falcon 9’s launch of 20 @Starlink satellites from California → http://spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-8-2
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (03:20 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/10/2024 02:51 am
...and slip to 9:30 pm PDT = 04:30 UTC.

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1788763479031300264

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Now targeting a new T-0 in the launch window for Falcon 9 lift off from pad 4E in California → http://spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-8-2



https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-8-2
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If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Friday, May 10 starting at 8:21 p.m. PT.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: alugobi on 05/10/2024 03:09 am
What is up with this launch?
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: jaysvw on 05/10/2024 03:43 am
Thanks Ron!  I live in AZ but I keep missing these, hopefully I can see a little something tonight.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: Ron Lee on 05/10/2024 03:48 am
Thanks Ron!  I live in AZ but I keep missing these, hopefully I can see a little something tonight.

Certainly look but I cannot assure that the second stage will be sunlit.   I should be able to tell from the launch broadcast.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/10/2024 04:09 am
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1788779975648391457

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Propellant load has begun for tonight’s launch of 20 @Starlink satellites from California
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 05/10/2024 04:28 am
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1788787012889362689
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Watch Falcon 9 launch 20 @Starlink  satellites to orbit from California, including 13 with Direct to Cell capabilities.



Final minutes of the countdown, SpaceX feed screencaps via Space Affairs.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 05/10/2024 04:31 am
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1788788926947410196
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Falcon 9 lifts off for the 75th time from pad 4E in California!

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1788788839009353831
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LAUNCH! Falcon 9 B1082 lofting more Starlinks into orbit.

Launch!
Ascent
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: Perchlorate on 05/10/2024 04:33 am
Staging and fairing sep.
Beautiful night shots of land from Stage 1 cam.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 05/10/2024 04:33 am
MECO
Stage separation
SES-1
Fairing deploy
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 05/10/2024 04:37 am
Entry burn
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 05/10/2024 04:41 am
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1788790848328704138
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Falcon 9’s first stage has landed on the Of Course I Still Love You droneship.

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1788790822848045255
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And landing. Four flights in the bag for this booster, landing on Of Course I Still Love You.

Now 232 successful landings in a row.

Landing!
SECO-1
Mission Control audio cut before successful orbit announced.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: xyv on 05/10/2024 04:42 am
Oh my.  Just watched this and due to the delay, right at MECO, the ISS passed by in one the brightest and longest sightings I have ever seen.  The two nearly overlapped and after the second stage ignited, both were visible for over 4 minutes.  I hope somebody got that on camera becaus I just watched.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: catdlr on 05/10/2024 05:08 am
Full Replay in HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r-bXhKQh_M
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: catdlr on 05/10/2024 05:08 am
Summary Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDokEZ9UCkI
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: catdlr on 05/10/2024 05:11 am
Local TV Stations in LA provides helicopter and SpaceX dual views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THMSdIuZ008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXNXmC7rghw
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: rsmath on 05/10/2024 05:44 am
while I've seen a previous Starlink lauch from NM, nothing seen tonight.  Don't know if it was too cloudy in that direction, if it was too hazy from the wind, or too much light pollution to see anything, but I'm going to start assuming the merlin vacuum engine light is too dim to be seen through at least the light pollution and that sun illumination on the launch vehicle plays a critical role in seeing it from here.

It was definitely not sunlit tonight.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: catdlr on 05/10/2024 05:55 am
while I've seen a previous Starlink lauch from NM, nothing seen tonight.  Don't know if it was too cloudy in that direction, if it was too hazy from the wind, or too much light pollution to see anything, but I'm going to start assuming the merlin vacuum engine light is too dim to be seen through at least the light pollution and that sun illumination on the launch vehicle plays a critical role in seeing it from here.

It was definitely not sunlit tonight.

Being that the launch at 9:30 PM PDT was after astronomical twilight, the chance to see it better had diminished.

Los Angeles (LA) sunset events on 9 May 2024:

1)  Sunset:   7:43 PM PDT
2)  Civil twilight:  8:11 PM PDT
3)  Nautical twilight:  8:44 PM PDT
4)  Astronomical twilight:  9:19 PM PDT
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: rsmath on 05/10/2024 07:11 am
I theorized the light from the merlin vacuum engine might be bright enough to see it, but I think from 650 miles away, it is too faint to see through the haze and light pollution assuming it was not cloudy where i was looking.

My new thought is that sunlit vehicle and dusk skies are requirements.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: FutureSpaceTourist on 05/10/2024 07:38 am
https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1788806226845073804

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Deployment of 20 @Starlink satellites confirmed

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On orbit, the 13 Direct to Cell satellites will connect over laser backhaul to the @Starlink constellation, eliminating dead zones and providing peace of mind when customers need it most
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: FutureSpaceTourist on 05/10/2024 07:39 am
https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1788810339523707372

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Falcon 9 launches 20 @Starlink satellites – including 13 with Direct to Cell capabilities – completing the 75th launch from pad 4E in California → https://www.starlink.com/business/direct-to-cell
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 05/10/2024 09:50 am
Cross-post:
Vandenberg launches are racking up:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1788835845601952007

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Our 75th launch from Vandenberg, California
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: catdlr on 05/10/2024 06:02 pm
and my contact in Santa Barbara posted this video of the launch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=955QSgGmBvc
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: Yellowstone10 on 05/11/2024 12:05 am
It will be interesting to see if today's extreme solar storm swipes any of the new Starlinks, like we saw back in February 2022.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: shiro on 05/11/2024 09:44 am
Some reusability stats for this launch (Starlink Group 8-2):

Booster B1082.4 turnaround time:
28 days 14 hours 5 minutes
(its previous mission was USSF-62/WSF-M 1 on Apr 11, 2024 UTC).

FYI: median turnaround time for Falcon 9 / Heavy boosters is currently 37.88 days *
* – based on the last 30 launches, excluding new first stages.

The turnaround time for Falcon 9 boosters is being steadily reduced by SpaceX, with half of the last twelve launches utilizing a booster that was reflown in under a month - something that was uncommon even half a year ago.

Launchpad SLC-4E turnaround time:
7 days 9 hours 54 minutes
(the previous launch from this pad was WorldView Legion Flight 1 on May 2, 2024 UTC).

FYI: median turnaround time for SLC-4E is currently 10.97 days *
* – based on the last 30 launches.

The same type of stats for previous SpaceX launches may be found on this spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WwD3CzpKR6vNgYS3QlxoOK9WLi81fof9zRiXzGCnbwo/edit?usp=sharing) online.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: realnouns on 05/12/2024 02:14 am
Go Beyond returned to PoLB on May 11 @ 6:41am PT / 9:41am ET
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: realnouns on 05/12/2024 02:17 am
Lindsay C + OCISLY + B1082 returned to PoLB on May 11 @ 10:36am PT / 1:36pm ET
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink 8-2 : VSFB SLC-4E : 9/10 May 2024 (04:30 UTC)
Post by: FutureSpaceTourist on 05/12/2024 06:41 am
https://twitter.com/shorealonefilms/status/1789442822736924756

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After 4 trips to space & back, this @SpaceX #booster B1082.4 returns to #LongBeach for referb & transport to #VSFB for more flights to space! 05-11-24