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Title: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : TBD 2024
Post by: Ken the Bin on 03/24/2024 01:40 am
Thread for the Starlink 7-28 group launch.

Launch TBD 2024, from either KSC LC-39A or CCSFS SLC-40, on booster 10xx-x.  The first stage will land aboard one of the two East Coast ASDS near Exuma Island in the Bahamas.

Payload 22? Starlink V2 Mini satellites to 53 degree inclination orbit on a southeastern trajectory.  Initial orbit ?? x ?? km?

Please use the Starlink Discussion Thread (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=48297.0) for all general discussion on Starlink.

Check the Starlink Index Thread (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=0.0) for links to more Starlink information.



NGA Rocket Launching notice that appears to be for this launch (Starlink Group 6-45).

Quote from: NGA
210012Z MAR 24
NAVAREA IV 338/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   292100Z TO 300125Z MAR, ALTERNATE
   2100Z TO 0125Z DAILY 30 MAR THRU 04 APR
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.00N 080-37.69W, 28-39.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-28.00N 080-10.00W, 28-20.00N 080-15.00W,
      28-29.16N 080-32.40W.
   B. 24-55.00N 076-51.00W, 24-57.00N 076-45.00W,
      24-20.00N 076-03.00W, 24-13.00N 075-42.00W,
      24-09.00N 075-37.00W, 24-06.00N 075-34.00W,
      24-00.00N 075-30.00W, 23-53.00N 075-28.00W,
      23-36.00N 075-33.00W, 23-35.00N 075-35.00W,
      23-49.00N 076-04.00W, 24-14.00N 076-19.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 050225Z APR 24.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 March 2024 (~21:00 UTC)?
Post by: OneSpeed on 03/24/2024 10:25 am
NGA Rocket Launching notice that appears to be for this launch (Starlink Group 6-45).

Map from the NGA notice. This appears to be the first Exuma booster recovery, ASDS 613km downrange. A booster dogleg is implied by the areas, so the payload may be less than 23 satellites.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 March 2024 (~21:00 UTC)?
Post by: GWR64 on 03/24/2024 01:12 pm
NGA Rocket Launching notice that appears to be for this launch (Starlink Group 6-45).

Map from the NGA notice. This appears to be the first Exuma booster recovery, ASDS 613km downrange. A booster dogleg is implied by the areas, so the payload may be less than 23 satellites.

Looks like 53° inclination. So the first of these missions?
Five Starlinks from Florida using the new landing area...

0293-EX-ST-2024 (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=131899&RequestTimeout=1000)  Mission 2210 Starlink Group 7-28/Exuma trajectory
0294-EX-ST-2024 (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=131901&RequestTimeout=1000)  Mission 2211 Starlink Group 7-29/Exuma trajectory
0295-EX-ST-2024 (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=131903&RequestTimeout=1000)  Mission 2109 Starlink Group 8-4/Exuma trajectory
0296-EX-ST-2024 (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=131905&RequestTimeout=1000)  Mission 2212 Starlink Group 7-30/Exuma trajectory
0300-EX-ST-2024 (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=131915&RequestTimeout=1000)  Mission 2110 Starlink Group 8-5/Exuma trajectory

ASDS position:
North  24  29  51   West  76  25  36
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 March 2024 (~21:00 UTC)?
Post by: spacenuance on 03/24/2024 05:09 pm
NGA Rocket Launching notice that appears to be for this launch (Starlink Group 6-45).

Map from the NGA notice. This appears to be the first Exuma booster recovery, ASDS 613km downrange. A booster dogleg is implied by the areas, so the payload may be less than 23 satellites.

Looks like 53° inclination. So the first of these missions?
Five Starlinks from Florida using the new landing area...

0293-EX-ST-2024 (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=131899&RequestTimeout=1000)  Mission 2210 Starlink Group 7-28/Exuma trajectory
0294-EX-ST-2024 (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=131901&RequestTimeout=1000)  Mission 2211 Starlink Group 7-29/Exuma trajectory
0295-EX-ST-2024 (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=131903&RequestTimeout=1000)  Mission 2109 Starlink Group 8-4/Exuma trajectory
0296-EX-ST-2024 (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=131905&RequestTimeout=1000)  Mission 2212 Starlink Group 7-30/Exuma trajectory
0300-EX-ST-2024 (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=131915&RequestTimeout=1000)  Mission 2110 Starlink Group 8-5/Exuma trajectory

ASDS position:
North  24  29  51   West  76  25  36

NXSF has 7-25 instead of 6-45 for these notices. https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7531
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 March 2024 (~21:00 UTC)?
Post by: Ken the Bin on 03/24/2024 10:24 pm
NGA Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas). The time between the start of the Rocket Launching hazard period and the start of the Space Debris hazard period is longer than usual. Am I missing something?

Quote from: NGA
242150Z MAR 24
HYDROPAC 970/24(57,61,71).
SOUTHERN INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 01, DNC 02, DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   0058Z TO 0427Z DAILY 30 MAR THRU 07 APR
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   08-53.00S 092-28.00E, 07-46.00S 089-27.00E,
   30-12.00S 061-09.00E, 40-45.00S 002-21.00W,
   42-56.00S 002-24.00W, 32-16.00S 063-10.00E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 070527Z APR 24.
Quote from: NGA
242150Z MAR 24
HYDROLANT 620/24(57,61,71).
SOUTHERN INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 01, DNC 02, DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   0058Z TO 0427Z DAILY 30 MAR THRU 07 APR
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   08-53.00S 092-28.00E, 07-46.00S 089-27.00E,
   30-12.00S 061-09.00E, 40-45.00S 002-21.00W,
   42-56.00S 002-24.00W, 32-16.00S 063-10.00E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 070527Z APR 24.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 March 2024 (~21:00 UTC)?
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 03/25/2024 02:33 pm
Cross-posts:
Five Starlinks from Florida using the new landing area...
0293-EX-ST-2024 (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=131899&RequestTimeout=1000)  Mission 2210 Starlink Group 7-28/Exuma trajectory
[Launch NET Mar 16]
<snip>
ASDS position:
North  24  29  51   West  76  25  36

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7507
Quote
Starlink Group 7-28
Launch Time
NET March 2024
...
SLC-40 or LC-39A, Florida, USA

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide (https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html); updated March 23; my bold:
Quote
The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 39A on March 23 at 7:39-11:29 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on March 25 at 5:00-9:00 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the Eutelsat 36D television satellite from pad 39A on March 30 around 6 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch the Bandwagon-1 rideshare mission on April at 1:24 p.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches.

NGA Rocket Launching notice that appears to be for this launch (Starlink Group 6-45).

Quote from: NGA
210012Z MAR 24
NAVAREA IV 338/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   292100Z TO 300125Z MAR, ALTERNATE
   2100Z TO 0125Z DAILY 30 MAR THRU 04 APR
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.00N 080-37.69W, 28-39.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-28.00N 080-10.00W, 28-20.00N 080-15.00W,
      28-29.16N 080-32.40W.
   B. 24-55.00N 076-51.00W, 24-57.00N 076-45.00W,
      24-20.00N 076-03.00W, 24-13.00N 075-42.00W,
      24-09.00N 075-37.00W, 24-06.00N 075-34.00W,
      24-00.00N 075-30.00W, 23-53.00N 075-28.00W,
      23-36.00N 075-33.00W, 23-35.00N 075-35.00W,
      23-49.00N 076-04.00W, 24-14.00N 076-19.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 050225Z APR 24.

NGA Rocket Launching notice that appears to be for this launch (Starlink Group 6-45).

Map from the NGA notice. This appears to be the first Exuma booster recovery, ASDS 613km downrange. A booster dogleg is implied by the areas, so the payload may be less than 23 satellites.

Launch cannot be Starlink Group 6.  It must be Group 7 or Group 8, to 53 degrees orbital inclination.

As the first three Group 8 launches are scheduled from Vandenberg SFB, I think this launch will be Starlink 7-28, with the earlier launch NET date.  Starlink 7-25 has the lower numerical designation, but launch NET is April 8.

Also, Starshield satellite launches cannot be precluded.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : 5 April 2024 (~21:00 UTC)?
Post by: Ken the Bin on 03/25/2024 04:52 pm
A cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice, postponing whatever launch this actually is out to April 5.

Note that these different notices being posted in this topic are not necessarily all for the same mission.
Edit: "This topic" is 6-45, where I originally posted this.

Note: I'm going to post this in the 7-25 topic also.

Quote from: NGA
251703Z MAR 24
NAVAREA IV 345/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   052100Z TO 060125Z APR, ALTERNATE
   2100Z TO 0125Z DAILY 06 THRU 12 APR
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.00N 080-37.69W, 28-39.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-28.00N 080-10.00W, 28-20.00N 080-15.00W,
      28-29.16N 080-32.40W.
   B. 24-55.00N 076-51.00W, 24-57.00N 076-45.00W,
      24-20.00N 076-03.00W, 24-13.00N 075-42.00W,
      24-09.00N 075-37.00W, 24-06.00N 075-34.00W,
      24-00.00N 075-30.00W, 23-53.00N 075-28.00W,
      23-36.00N 075-33.00W, 23-35.00N 075-35.00W,
      23-49.00N 076-04.00W, 24-14.00N 076-19.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 338/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 130225Z APR 24.

[zubenelgenubi: Thread and splinter thread merged.]
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : 5 April 2024 (~21:00 UTC)?
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 03/26/2024 02:02 am
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide (https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html); updated March 26 UTC; my bold:
Quote
The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Eutelsat 36D television satellite from pad 39A on March 30 at 5:52 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on March 30 between 6-10 p.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch the Bandwagon-1 rideshare mission on April at 1:24 p.m. EDT.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : 5 April 2024 (~21:00 UTC)?
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 03/26/2024 07:52 pm
NXSF has 7-25 instead of 6-45 for these notices. https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7531
It's since been changed to Starlink 7-28.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : 5 April 2024 (~21:00 UTC)
Post by: GewoonLukas_ on 03/26/2024 07:59 pm
NXSF has 7-25 instead of 6-45 for these notices. https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7531
It's since been changed to Starlink 7-28.

Confirmed by this NOTAM:

Quote
A1078/24 NOTAMN
Q) FAJO/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/5146S01148E999
A) FAJO B) 2404052243 C) 2404120316
D) DLY 2243-0316
E) AREA BOUNDED BY (5104S 01000W, 4832S 03227E, 5049S 03144E, 5323S
01000W): SPACEX STARLINK 7-28 ROCKET RE-ENTRY OPS TAKING PLACE.
APPLICABLE AIRSPACE DOWNGRADED TO CLASS G.
F) GND G) UNL
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : 5 April 2024 (~21:00 UTC)
Post by: OneSpeed on 03/26/2024 09:35 pm
Confirmed by this NOTAM: ...

As is the 53° orbital inclination.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : 5 April 2024 (~21:00 UTC)
Post by: rsmath on 03/27/2024 12:45 am
Too early to know how this changes the CONUS crossing path near the end of the first orbit?  I wonder if I'll get a better pass and deorbit burn view from this 53 deg inclination orbit compared to what I see in 43 deg inclination orbit missions.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : 5 April 2024 (~21:00 UTC)
Post by: Ron Lee on 03/27/2024 04:43 pm
Too early to know how this changes the CONUS crossing path near the end of the first orbit?  I wonder if I'll get a better pass and deorbit burn view from this 53 deg inclination orbit compared to what I see in 43 deg inclination orbit missions.

My guess is that it will move the path across the US a bit eastward....more at higher latitudes.   I have seen one event from Colorado Springs and it was very bright on a 15 degree elevation path in the southwest during twilight.

I just compared the 43 degree orbit with the 53 degree questimate orbit.

The 43 degree orbit for me has it rising around azimuth 278 degrees and a maximum elevation of 15 degrees at azimuth 210 degrees.

I changed the inclination in that element set to 53 and the first orbit for me now rises at azimuth 312 degrees with a maximum elevation of 79 degrees around azimuth 43 degrees.

If I did not make a mistake that will be a great pass.  Update:  I did make a mistake.  I did not adjust the Right Ascension of the Ascending Node value.  Probably best to just wait for Dr Kelso's elsets and we can determine the hopeful improvement then.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : 5 April 2024 (~21:00 UTC)
Post by: Ken the Bin on 03/27/2024 07:27 pm
Now the NGA email system is working again, I've received this NGA cancellation notice, canceling the Rocket Launching notice TBD.

Quote from: NGA
271543Z MAR 24
NAVAREA IV 355/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
CANCEL NAVAREA IV 345/24 AND THIS MSG,
OPERATIONS/EXERCISES POSTPONED.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : NET April 2024
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 03/28/2024 01:38 am
Cross-post; already superseded:
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide (https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html); updated March 27; my bold:
Quote
March 28 at 1:40 p.m. EDT: The final United Launch Alliance Delta IV-Heavy rocket, and the last Delta after 64 years and 389 launches, will launch NROL-70 into orbit for the National Reconnaissance Office.

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Eutelsat 36D television satellite from pad 39A on March 30 at 5:52-8:00 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on March 30 earliest at 6-10 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on April 5 around 5-9 p.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch the Bandwagon-1 rideshare mission on  April at 1:24 p.m. EDT.

The next United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket will launch Boeing's Starliner spacecaraft on its first crewed astronaut mission to the ISS on May 1 at 12:55 a.m. EDT. The launch time gets ~22-26 minutes earlier each day. The next Vulcan rocket, flying on its second mission, will launch Sierra Space's Dreamchaser space plane to the ISS on its first ever mission.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 5 April 2024 (~21:00 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 03/28/2024 04:40 pm
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide (https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html); updated March 28 before NROL-70 launch; my bold:
Quote
The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Eutelsat 36D television satellite from pad 39A on March 30 at 5:52-8:00 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on March 30 earliest at 6-10 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on April 5 around 5-9 p.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch the Bandwagon-1 rideshare mission on  April 7.
Is this back to the April 5 launch?
If so, = 5 April ~21:00 to 6 April ~01:00

Or, is Ben carrying a missed edit forward?
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 5 April 2024 (~21:00 UTC)
Post by: Ken the Bin on 03/28/2024 07:17 pm
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide (https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html); updated March 28 before NROL-70 launch; my bold:
Quote
The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Eutelsat 36D television satellite from pad 39A on March 30 at 5:52-8:00 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on March 30 earliest at 6-10 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on April 5 around 5-9 p.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch the Bandwagon-1 rideshare mission on  April 7.
Is this back to the April 5 launch?
If so, = 5 April ~21:00 to 6 April ~01:00

Or, is it carrying a missed edit forward?

The NGA website has been updated this morning. I checked the NAVAREA IV active notices for all Rocket Launching notices. What they have matches the NAVAREA IV emails that I'm holding, which are NAVAREA IV 333/24 for March 28 (NROL-70), NAVAREA IV 350/24 for March 30 (Eutelsat 36D), and NAVAREA IV 351/24 for March 31 (Starlink Group 6-45).
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : NET April 2024
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 03/29/2024 10:27 pm
Starlink 6-47:
NET April 5th UTC:
Quote
A1112/24 NOTAMN
Q) FAJO/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/3656S04611E999
A) FAJO B) 2404050844 C) 2404111027
D) 05 APR 0804-1258, 06 APR 0739-1233, 07 APR 0714-1208, 08 APR
0648-1142, 09 APR 0623-1117, 10 APR 0558-1052, 11 APR 0533-1027
E) AREA BOUNDED BY (4256S 00224W, 4045S 00221W, 3210S 05700E, 3515S
05700E): SPACEX STARLINK 6-47 ROCKET RE-ENTRY OPS TAKING PLACE.
APPLICABLE AIRSPACE DOWNGRADED TO CLASS G.
F) GND G) UNL
Starlink 7-28 would indeed become launch NET April, NET after both Starlink 6-47 and Bandwagon-1Launch could be from either LC-39A or SLC-40.

If this is the next Florida Falcon 9 launch after Starlink 6-47 and Bandwagon-1, then launch may be as soon as possible after Starlink 6-47 from SLC-40.  One ASDS catches for Starlink 6-47, and the other catches for this launch.
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide (https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html); updated March 29; my bold:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Eutelsat 36D television satellite from pad 39A on March 30 at 5:52-8:00 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on March 30 or 31 at 6-10 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on April 5 around 5-9 p.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch the Bandwagon-1 rideshare mission on April 7 in the evening EDT. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch.
Extrapolating from the launch time on April 3, 17:24 UTC, forward four days, launch time would be circa 16:00 UTC = ~12:00 noon EDT.
NextSpaceflight (Updated March 28th) has 23:02 as the launch time:
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7237
And, launch from LC-39A, and confirming first stage landing at LZ-1.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : NET April 2024
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 03/31/2024 05:31 pm
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide (https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html); updated after the two Falcon 9 launches on March 30/31 UTC; my bold:
Quote
The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on April 5 around 2-6 a.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch the Bandwagon-1 rideshare mission on April 7 at 7:17 p.m. EDT. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches.

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide (https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html); updated later March 31 UTC; my bold:
Quote
The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on April 5 around 2:15-6:15 a.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch the Bandwagon-1 rideshare mission on April 7 at 7:17 p.m. EDT. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch two Galileo navigation system satellites for Europe on late April.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : NET April 2024
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 04/02/2024 07:40 pm
This launch now after (at minimum) Starlink 6-48 NET late in the day April 9 UTC.

So, Starlink 7-28 now would launch NET mid April from either Florida Falcon 9 pad.
NET late April 9 UTC per these 2nd stage re-entry NOTAMs:

F1252/24 NOTAMN
Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/1526S08311E705
A) YMMM
B) 2404100004 C) 2404160227
D) 2404100004 TO 2404100458
   2404102339 TO 2404110433
   2404112314 TO 2404120408
   2404122249 TO 2404130343
   2404132223 TO 2404140317
   2404142158 TO 2404150252
   2404152133 TO 2404160227
E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND
SPLASHDOWN OF LAUNCH VEHICLE STARLINK 6-48
   
WI THE FOLLOWING AREAS:
2033S 07500E
0746S 08927E
0853S 09228E
2422S 07500E TO BEGINNING
PRIMARY LAUNCH 240410
BACKUP AS PER FIELD D
F) SFC G) UNL



A1148/24 NOTAMN
Q) FAJO/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/4206S02503E999
A) FAJO B) 2404100004 C) 2404160227
D) 10 APR 0004-0458, 10-11 APR 2339-0443, 11-12 APR 2314-0408, 12-13
APR 2249-0343, 13-14 APR 2223-0317, 14-15 APR 2158-0252, 15-16 APR
2133-0227
E) AREA BOUNDED BY (4256S 00224W, 4045S 00221W, 3210S 05700E, 3515S
05700E): SPACEX STARLINK 6-48 ROCKET RE-ENTRY OPS TAKING PLACE.
APPLICABLE AIRSPACE DOWNGRADED TO CLASS G.
F) SFC G) UNL

Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : NET April 2024
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 04/17/2024 04:14 am
In the meantime...
Starlink 6-48 launched April 5 UTC.

Bandwagon-1 launched April 7 UTC.

Starlink 6-49 launched April 10 UTC.

There is not a FCC STA launch request for a Starlink 6-50.

Starlink 6-51 is scheduled to launch April 17 UTC.

Starlink 6-52 is scheduled to launch April 18 UTC.

Starlink 6-53 is scheduled to launch April 22 UTC.

Galileo-FOC Flight 12 is scheduled to launch in late April.

Starlink 7-28 has the earliest launch NET date of the Florida Group 7 launches, March 16.

Will it launch NET late April?
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : NET April 2024
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 04/18/2024 12:38 pm
Circumstantial evidence

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide (https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html); updated April 17 after Starlink 6-51 launch; my bold:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on April 18 at 6:40-10:40 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch on April 22 at 6:40-10:40 p.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch two Galileo navigation system satellites for Europe on April 28. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches.

The Galileo pair launch is from LC-39A on April 28, with B1060.20 launching as an expendable.

There is availability for a Starlink launch circa April 24, from SLC-40, using ASOG for the first stage landing.

There is schedule availability for yet another Starlink launch circa April 28, from SLC-40, using JRTI for the first stage landing.  Group 7 or 8?
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : TBD 2024
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 04/19/2024 09:47 pm
Circumstantial evidence

Well, no.  It is Starlink 6-54, perhaps followed by an unknown number of further Group 6 launches.

SpaceX may choose to interleave launches from Groups 6, 7, and 8.
Well more NOTAMs for yet another Starlink launch from the Cape has been filed...and it's Group 6-54 that was never explicitly filed with the FCC (but which a recent "generic" communication license has been granted for such launches).

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide (https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html); updated April 18 after Starlink 6-52 launch; my bold:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on April 22 at 6:40-10:40 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on April 26 around 7-11 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch two Galileo navigation system satellites for Europe from pad 39A on April 28. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : TBD 2024
Post by: Ron Lee on 04/21/2024 01:13 am
The launch path appears to cross over some of the Bahamian land mass.  That does not seem prudent unless SpaceX can guarantee with 100% certainty (I doubt that they can) that there is no possibility of a booster failure that could have debris landing on Bahamian soil.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : TBD 2024
Post by: alugobi on 04/21/2024 01:17 am
The launch path appears to cross over some of the Bahamian land mass.  That does not seem prudent unless SpaceX can guarantee with 100% certainty (I doubt that they can) that there is no possibility of a booster failure that could have debris landing on Bahamian soil.
The booster is, by recent international agreement with SpaceX, landing in Bahamian waters. 

This agreement allows SX to fly out without making a dogleg around the islands.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : TBD 2024
Post by: Michael S on 04/22/2024 01:51 am
The launch path appears to cross over some of the Bahamian land mass.  That does not seem prudent unless SpaceX can guarantee with 100% certainty (I doubt that they can) that there is no possibility of a booster failure that could have debris landing on Bahamian soil.

I am sure you realize that no one can make that claim about vehicle reliability. Cars, airplanes, bicycles, and boats/ships have witnessed death and destruction every year, all of these have been in operation for over a hundred years. The question should be: "Has reliability improved to the point of safe overflight?" As of today's date (21 April 2024), there have been 306 successful consecutive launches , and 299 (nonconsecutive) successful landings. Apparently this is a reasonable operations record for the government of the Bahamas.

Edit: I forgot trains.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : TBD 2024
Post by: FLHerne on 04/22/2024 05:06 pm
As of today's date (21 April 2024), there have been 306 successful consecutive launches , and 299 (nonconsecutive) successful landings. Apparently this is a reasonable operations record for the government of the Bahamas.
225 consecutive successful landings (not recoveries, but a landed booster falling over isn't a risk to the general public).
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : TBD 2024
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 04/24/2024 04:36 pm
Cross-post :
Two NGA Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas).

Note that these notices are effective from 00:01 to 23:59 UTC every day through May 31, so they are multi-launch notices.

Quote from: NGA
240407Z APR 24
HYDROLANT 869/24(57,61,71).
EASTERN SOUTH ATLANTIC.
INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 01, DNC 02, DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   0001Z TO 2359Z DAILY 27 APR THRU 31 MAY
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   08-53.00S 092-28.00E, 07-46.00S 089-27.00E,
   30-12.00S 061-09.00E, 40-45.00S 002-21.00W,
   42-56.00S 002-24.00W, 32-16.00S 063-10.00E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 010059Z JUN 24.//
Quote from: NGA
240407Z APR 24
HYDROPAC 1342/24(57,61,71).
EASTERN SOUTH ATLANTIC.
INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 01, DNC 02, DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   0001Z TO 2359Z DAILY 27 APR THRU 31 MAY
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   08-53.00S 092-28.00E, 07-46.00S 089-27.00E,
   30-12.00S 061-09.00E, 40-45.00S 002-21.00W,
   42-56.00S 002-24.00W, 32-16.00S 063-10.00E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 010059Z JUN 24.//
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : TBD 2024
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 04/26/2024 12:05 am
Starlink 6-55 is the next Florida Starlink launch[ed], May 3 UTC NET May 2.

Starlink 6-57 launched May 6 UTC.

Starlink 6-56 launched May 8 UTC.

Starlink 6-58 launched May 13 UTC.

Starlink 6-59 launched May 18 UTC.

Starlink 6-62 is scheduled to launch May 23 UTC.

Starlink 6-63 is also scheduled to launch May 23 UTC.

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Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : TBD 2024
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 05/19/2024 07:29 pm
JRTI will soon be available:
https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1792198079695012307
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A satellite view of JTRI sitting in the drydock at Freeport yesterday.

Capture time: 2024-05-18 15:42:38 UTC.

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Awesome shot of JRTI in drydock! Bob arrived at Freeport this morning to collect the droneship.

Is Bob carrying equipment and goods, or same purchased in Freeport, so that JRTI can be towed directly to a recovery zone, without provisioning at Port Canaveral?

Speculation:
Might an Exuma I. offshore recovery be next--an inter-island tow to the recovery zone?  We would know by the NOTAMs.

Like these in posts up-thread:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=60600.msg2580163#msg2580163

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=60600.msg2580621#msg2580621
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : TBD 2024
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 05/20/2024 08:17 pm
Is Bob carrying equipment and goods, or same purchased in Freeport, so that JRTI can be towed directly to a recovery zone, without provisioning at Port Canaveral?
Speculation:
Might an Exuma I. offshore recovery be next--an inter-island tow to the recovery zone?  We would know by the NOTAMs.
Like these in posts up-thread:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=60600.msg2580163#msg2580163
and
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=60600.msg2580621#msg2580621
Yes, JRTI has departed directly for the recovery zone, but apparently for Starlink 6-62, not 7-28.  Oh, well.

Edit May 24: Florida Starlink Group 6 launches scheduled through May 30.  Group 7 launch is now NET June.
Title: Re: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 7-28 : Florida : TBD 2024
Post by: AndrewM on 06/24/2024 10:50 pm
NextSpaceflight has converted it to just a generic Starlink Mission. The FCC permit is valid until September 16th so maybe eventually SpaceX will use it.