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International Space Flight (ESA, Russia, China and others) => Chinese Launchers => Topic started by: zubenelgenubi on 10/25/2021 07:12 am
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This launch schedule has proven mostly accurate thus far:
A user on the 9ifly posted this regarding to the launch schedule from Xichang for the remainder of the year. Knowing that launch opperations alternate between LC-2 and LC-3 we can determine several things. (The first two launches listed were Tianlian-1 05 and Yaogan-30 Group 10)
August 6th to August 8th: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ChinaSat-2E
August 23th to August 25nd: LC-3 - CZ-3B - ?
September 8th to September 9th: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ChinaSat-9B
September 23rd to September 25th: LC-3 - CZ-3B - ?
October 16th to October 18th: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ?
November 2nd to November 4th: LC-3 - CZ-3B - ?
November 26th to November 28th: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ?
December 13th to December 15th: LC-3 - CZ-2D - ?
December 29th to January 1st: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ?
Most recently:
Travel agency has posted nov 15-17, dec13-15, dec30-jan1 as next launch windows for Xichang. vehicles/payloads unknown
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4696175796555496 (https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4696175796555496)
As of this post, the satellite or satellites aboard this hypothesized launch are unknown. Given the current circumstances regarding spaceflight coverage behind the digital Bamboo Curtain, the next information to work with may be launch NOTAM publication.
What are the sources for these?
China launch schedule
2021
?? - ?? - CZ-4B - XSLC, LC?
?? - Beidou-3 Buwang-1 - CZ-3C - XSLC, LC?
?? - ??, ?? - CZ-3B/G? (Y75) - XSLC, LC?
Changes on January 9th, 2020
Changes on September 10th, 2020
Changes on August 29, 2021
Hypothetical launch schedule:
China launch schedule
2021
November 26 Nov 26 to 28 canceled Nov 24 to 29 - Zhongxing-1D Zhongxing-6D(?) - CZ-3B/G3 - XSLC, LC2 - 16:40 ~16:40 ~16:15
December 13-15 - ?? - CZ-3B/G? - XSLC, LC3 LC3 LC2
December 31/Dec 30 to Jan 1, 2022 Dec 29 to Jan 1, 2022 - Zhongxing-6D - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC, LC2 LC2 LC3
?? - Beidou-3 Buwang-1(?) - CZ-3C - XSLC, LC?
?? - Jianyang-1- CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC, LC?
?? - TECHO-1 (Qingwang-1) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC, LC?
TBD July 5 (or 6) - Tianhui-3 (GEOSAR) - CZ-3B/G3 - XSLC, LC?
thread (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=54086.0)
TBD/December 30 December 29 to January 1, 2022 - Tianji Guganwang Gaogui (×2) - CZ-3B/G3 - XSLC, LC3 LC2
TBD? TBD September 20 23 - Yaogan-30 Group-11, Tianqi-? "Yan'an-1" - CZ-2C (Y49) - XSLC, LC3?
thread (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=54816.0)
?? - ??, ?? - CZ-3B/G? (Y75) - XSLC, LC?
?? - ?? - CZ-4B - XSLC, LC?
Changes on May 6
Changes on June 11
Changes on June 19
Changes on June 22
Changes on June 29
Changes on July 1
Changes on August 1
Changes on August 29
Changes on September 23
Changes on October 24
Changes on October 25
Changes on November 4
Changes on November 9
Changes on November 22
Changes on November 26
zubenelgenubi
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As per the NOTAM:
P4126/21 NOTAMN
Q) RJJJ/QXXXX/IV/NBO/E/000/999/2229N12642E029
A) RJJJ B) 2111241600 C) 2111291900
D) 1600/1900
E) DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON NOV 24-29, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON NOV 24, 2021 1600 - 29, 2021 1900 (UTC)
DLY 1600-1900 (UTC).
AREA:
N222700E1271222-N224507E1261720-N222949E1261131-N221142E1270625,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY.
F) SFC G) UNL
CREATED: 08 Nov 2021 08:53:00
SOURCE: RJAAYNYX
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This looks to be a GTO launch on a CZ-3B from XSLC Pad 2. This is quite unusual to see NOTAMs published this far before the launch.
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As per the NOTAM:
Another format for this NOTAM related to CZ-3B second stage debris
P4126/21 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON NOV 24-29, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON NOV 24, 2021 1600 - 29, 2021 1900 (UTC)
DLY 1600-1900 (UTC).
AREA:
N222700E1271222-N224507E1261720-N222949E1261131-N221142E1270625,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
1600/1900, 24 NOV 16:00 2021 UNTIL 29 NOV 19:00 2021. CREATED: 08 NOV 08:53 2021
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This can be the launch that was originally schedule foe November 13/15.
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It is said there will be a CZ-3B with ChinaSat-6D launch on Nov 24, 2021 16:15 UTC from Xichang.
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More air-space closure notices have shown up with a November 26, ~16:40 UTC launch time.
A2976/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZPKM/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2815N10202E006
A) ZPKM B) 2111261630 C) 2111261705
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED CENTERED AT N2815E10202
WITH RADIUS OF 10KM. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE
TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL
A2977/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZPKM/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2718N10808E026
A) ZPKM B) 2111261632 C) 2111261709
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N272159E1083650-N273125E1074313-N271528E1073946-N270603E1083315.
BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY
RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL
A2978/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZXXX/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2603N11412E016
A) ZGZU ZSHA B) 2111261634 C) 2111261710
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N260808E1142921-N261444E1140013-N255857E1135553-N255223E1142456,
BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY
RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL
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NOTAM for 2nd stage debris:
P4314/21 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON NOV 26, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON NOV 26, 2021 1645-1745(UTC)
AREA:
N222700E1271220-N224509E1261719-N222748E1261131-N221141E1270626,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
26 NOV 16:45 2021 UNTIL 26 NOV 17:45 2021. CREATED: 22 NOV 10:52 2021
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Earlier on Chinasat-6D launch was expected by end December 2021, so let's see..
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NOTAM for 2nd stage debris:
P4314/21 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON NOV 26, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON NOV 26, 2021 1645-1745(UTC)
AREA:
N222700E1271220-N224509E1261719-N222748E1261131-N221141E1270626,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
26 NOV 16:45 2021 UNTIL 26 NOV 17:45 2021. CREATED: 22 NOV 10:52 2021
Is this still available?
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NOTAM for 2nd stage debris:
P4314/21 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON NOV 26, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON NOV 26, 2021 1645-1745(UTC)
AREA:
N222700E1271220-N224509E1261719-N222748E1261131-N221141E1270626,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
26 NOV 16:45 2021 UNTIL 26 NOV 17:45 2021. CREATED: 22 NOV 10:52 2021
Is this still available?
It's available as of now.
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NOTAM for 2nd stage debris:
P4314/21 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON NOV 26, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON NOV 26, 2021 1645-1745(UTC)
AREA:
N222700E1271220-N224509E1261719-N222748E1261131-N221141E1270626,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
26 NOV 16:45 2021 UNTIL 26 NOV 17:45 2021. CREATED: 22 NOV 10:52 2021
Is this still available?
It's available as of now.
I got news it is not CZ-3B and ChinaSat-6D, it might be CZ-3B without ChinaSat-6D.
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NOTAM for 2nd stage debris:
P4314/21 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON NOV 26, 2021.
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON NOV 26, 2021 1645-1745(UTC)
AREA:
N222700E1271220-N224509E1261719-N222748E1261131-N221141E1270626,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
26 NOV 16:45 2021 UNTIL 26 NOV 17:45 2021. CREATED: 22 NOV 10:52 2021
Is this still available?
It's available as of now.
I got news it is not CZ-3B and ChinaSat-6D, it might be CZ-3B without ChinaSat-6D.
The newest is that might still be ChianSat-6D:(
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Waiting any news from Xichang...
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Launch confirmed (https://share.api.weibo.cn/share/264642589.html?weibo_id=4707946103572160)
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Liftoff confirmed per local reports of ground shaking.
And I saw insiders on Weibo are hinting at the payload being something else than ChinaSat 6D, “of a certain model not seen in Xichang for the past several years”. IMHO maybe it’s the ChinaSat-1x series, identified as military mobile communication satellites and last launched in 2015? That seems to be the closest thing that I could found linked to the CZ-3 series, have enough satellites launched to be called a “series” and hasn’t had a new one launched in the past several years.
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https://twitter.com/cosmic_penguin/status/1464279277495468039?s=21
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IT is ChinaSat-1D.
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Successful mission, the satellite was ChinaSat 1D (Zhongxing 1D)
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https://weibo.com/6528178851/L3kZFlgBC
via web translation:
On November 27, 2021 at 0:40 Beijing time China successfully launched the "Zhongxing 1D" satellite with the Long March III B carrier rocket at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center. The satellite successfully entered its intended orbit and the launch mission was a complete success. The mission was the 399th flight of the Long March series launch vehicles.
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CASC Official Statement
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/ze7pJnfICAl-RCOzl21wtw
"In view of the remarkable characteristics of the high altitude wind at Xichang in winter , the method of "bidirectional wind compensation in the east fire direction" was adopted for the first time in this mission to reduce the impact of the high altitude wind on the launch. launch conditions and flight reliability."
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Launch video from CASC
https://weibo.com/5386897742/L3l1q1rD2
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Red Screen!
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There's no news on this rocket's serial number
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There's no news on this rocket's serial number
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4707956949516372 (https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4707956949516372) says it's Y79.
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Launch video from CASC
https://weibo.com/5386897742/L3l1q1rD2
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1464290016280993792?s=20
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There's no news on this rocket's serial number
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4707956949516372 (https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4707956949516372) says it's Y79.
If I understand correctly "G3"
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2021-114A/49505 in 182 x 35831 km x 27.06° (S/C)
2021-114B/49506 in 143 x 34386 km x 27.06° (3rd stage)
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http://www.news.cn/english/2021-11/27/c_1310335484.htm
XICHANG, Nov. 27 (Xinhua) -- China successfully sent a new satellite into space from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in southwest China's Sichuan Province Saturday.
The satellite, Zhongxing-1D, was launched at 0:40 a.m. (Beijing Time) by a Long March-3B carrier rocket and entered the planned orbit successfully.
This launch marked the 399th mission for the Long March series carrier rockets.
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Launch video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Rgt-kDMw8
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Other launch videos:
https://tv.cctv.com/2021/11/27/VIDE7qk8Y116yEjiPqXVRnX2211127.shtml (https://tv.cctv.com/2021/11/27/VIDE7qk8Y116yEjiPqXVRnX2211127.shtml)
https://tv.cctv.com/2021/11/27/VIDEg4WQbJGgwwiwrPiufz3U211127.shtml (https://tv.cctv.com/2021/11/27/VIDEg4WQbJGgwwiwrPiufz3U211127.shtml)
https://tv.cctv.com/2021/11/27/VIDEwvknBvEPktxjAEYKne9h211127.shtml (https://tv.cctv.com/2021/11/27/VIDEwvknBvEPktxjAEYKne9h211127.shtml)
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FWIW Chinasat-1A and Chinasat-1C were thought to be military tactical communication satellites
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Translated from 航天科技集团长三乙火箭发射中星1D卫星任务侧记 (http://www.spacechina.com/n25/n2014789/n2014809/c3399989/content.html) bu Google.
For the first time, "Eastern shooting direction two-way wind compensation" was adopted
The location of the Xichang Satellite Launch Center has a subtropical monsoon climate. In winter, high-altitude winds are very obvious. The experience of China's aerospace over the years has shown that high-altitude winds are an important factor affecting the success or failure of the launch.
In response to this problem, at the beginning of this year, the CZ-3A rocket team incorporated it into the topic for research. This flight is the first time for the team to adopt the "East-fire direction two-way wind compensation" method, which can reduce the impact of high-altitude wind on launch release conditions and flight reliability.
Chen Minkang, chief designer of CZ-3B Rocket, introduced that on the one hand, the team carried out refined design of high-altitude wind assessment and release conditions to increase the probability of release under high-altitude wind conditions in winter; on the other hand, the team reduced the high-altitude wind The load design is improved, and the “two-way wind compensation” method and the method of active load shedding of the first-stage rocket are used to reduce the flight load.
"A series of combo punches make us not afraid of high-altitude wind in winter." Chen Minkang said, "Launch with confidence and fly with confidence. This is the state we want to achieve."
The various technologies of the Gold Medal Rockets "CZ-3B" have been very mature, but for the gold medal team of the Gold Medal Rockets, they have never been satisfied with the current state and stopped moving forward. Individual improvements in local processes and materials are continuing, and the Gold Medal Rockets have been working towards a more perfect direction.
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In the next month, the CZ-3A series rocket team will also have a launch mission. Most of the team's personnel will continue to stay to complete the follow-up tasks, and some will stick to it until the end, ushering in the successful ending of the CZ-3A series of rockets this year.
The last segment proved there will be rest launch of CZ-3 serials, I think those will be two CZ-3B themselves.
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Positioned at 130.15 E, near to ZX-1A and ZX-2D.