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Title: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: otter on 04/06/2021 11:21 am
Orbital launch from Jiuquan?

A0591/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3322N10932E016
A) ZLHW B) 2104082254 C) 2104082317
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N333737E1092429-N333126E1094916-N330940E1093441-N331420E1091612 BACK TO START.
ALL ACFT SHALL BE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL
Issue Date UTC: 04/06/2021 0945
Title: Re: ?? - CZ-?? - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 ~23:00 UTC
Post by: input~2 on 04/06/2021 12:31 pm
Orbital launch from Jiuquan?

A0591/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3322N10932E016
A) ZLHW B) 2104082254 C) 2104082317
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N333737E1092429-N333126E1094916-N330940E1093441-N331420E1091612 BACK TO START.
ALL ACFT SHALL BE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL
Issue Date UTC: 04/06/2021 0945
Looks more like a launch from Taiyuan, April 8 ~23:00 UTC
Title: Re: ?? - CZ-?? - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 ~23:00 UTC
Post by: input~2 on 04/06/2021 05:03 pm
0n 9ifly forum some guess that it could be a launch for Tianhui 2 Group 02 with CZ-4B due to similar launch time with Tianhui 2 Group 01


 
Title: Re: ?? - CZ-?? - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 ~23:00 UTC
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/07/2021 01:49 am
0n 9ifly forum some guess that it could be a launch for Tianhui 2 Group 02 with CZ-4B due to similar launch time with Tianhui 2 Group 01

That would require some big dog-legs per the same forum's members' measurements (4 deg. or so).

Alternatively someone (not sure if insider or not) claims it's Shiyan 6-03 - the previous 2 satellites of the same series were launched on CZ-2Ds from Jiuquan, maybe this one's going for a different orbit or there's something related to the recent rocket launch site swaps due to drop zones?  :-\
Title: Re: ?? - CZ-?? - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 ~23:00 UTC
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/07/2021 12:52 pm
OK this is weird, a second closure notice was issued today which is completely the same except for closure times moving 30 minutes late (23:24 - 23:47 UTC)...and the old notice still stands.  ::)

I've no idea what this means...  :-X

A0607/21 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED
BY:N333737E1092429-N333126E1094916-N330940E1093441-N331420E1091612
BACK TO START. ALL ACFT SHALL BE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE
RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 08 APR 23:24 2021 UNTIL
08 APR 23:47 2021. CREATED: 07 APR 08:43 2021
Title: Re: ?? - CZ-?? - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 ~23:00 UTC
Post by: input~2 on 04/07/2021 03:36 pm
OK this is weird, a second closure notice was issued today which is completely the same except for closure times moving 30 minutes late (23:24 - 23:47 UTC)...and the old notice still stands.  ::)

I've no idea what this means...  :-X

Maybe they just forgot to cancel the old one and it's still there due to the unattained timeslot
Title: Re: ?? - CZ-?? - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 ~23:00 UTC
Post by: Bean Kenobi on 04/07/2021 09:35 pm
OK this is weird, a second closure notice was issued today which is completely the same except for closure times moving 30 minutes late (23:24 - 23:47 UTC)...and the old notice still stands.  ::)

I've no idea what this means...  :-X

Maybe they just forgot to cancel the old one and it's still there due to the unattained timeslot

Or couldn't it be 2 valid NOTAMs for 2 back-to-back launches ? Like 2 KZ-1As with JL-1 Gaofen 2D and 2F for example ?
Title: Re: ?? - CZ-?? - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 ~23:00 UTC
Post by: PM3 on 04/07/2021 10:15 pm
So far there is no confirmation at all of an orbital launch. Could as well be ICBM test(s). Taiyuan is China's primary ICBM test launch site.
Title: Re: ?? - CZ-?? - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 ~23:00 UTC
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 04/07/2021 10:52 pm
So far there is no confirmation at all of an orbital launch. Could as well be ICBM test(s). Taiyuan is China's primary ICBM test launch site.
Aren't the ICBM tests primarily flown west towards Lop Nor, etc.?
Title: Re: ?? - CZ-?? - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 ~23:00 UTC
Post by: PM3 on 04/08/2021 07:33 pm
spaceflightfans.cn has joined the speculations and guesses that this will be CZ-4C Y34, launching an unknown 2800 kg satellite to 500 km SSO.

http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/long-march-4c-rocket?instance_id=4591

Should launch in ~4 hours according to the second NOTAM or 3.5 hours to the first.
Title: Re: ?? - CZ-?? - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 ~23:00 UTC
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/08/2021 11:28 pm
And...it was successfully launched.

It was indeed Shiyan-6-03 on Long March 4B as rumored some days earlier (a change from the first two of the series on Long March 2Ds at Jiuquan). T-0 was 23:01 UTC.
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: Conexion Espacial on 04/08/2021 11:30 pm
Launch!!
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: Conexion Espacial on 04/08/2021 11:31 pm
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: Conexion Espacial on 04/08/2021 11:33 pm
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: Conexion Espacial on 04/09/2021 12:04 am
Video for Launch!
https://twitter.com/conexionspacial/status/1380310461644689415
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/09/2021 02:14 am
Hmm...for some reason the mission booklet was released for this launch.

As expected by the switch of rockets and air space closure zones, SY-6-03 is indeed going to a higher orbit than previous satellites of the series, SSO at 1000 km altitude & 99.5 deg. inclination.
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: otter on 04/09/2021 04:04 am
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-04/09/c_139868003.htm
Xinhua| 2021-04-09 07:33:48

China launches new satellite for space environment survey

TAIYUAN, April 9 (Xinhua) -- China successfully sent an experiment satellite into planned orbit from the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center in north China's Shanxi Province Friday.

The satellite, the third of the Shiyan-6 series, was launched by a Long March-4B carrier rocket at 7:01 a.m. (Beijing Time).

It will be used to carry out space environment survey and experiments on related technologies.

Friday's launch was the 365th by the Long March rocket series.
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: jcm on 04/09/2021 05:32 am
Two objects cataloged

B 992 x 1001 km x 99.5 (payload?)  48158
A 761 x 991 x 99.5 (rocket)    48157
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: Fmedici on 04/09/2021 11:32 am

Y29. I believe No.49 means the 49th CZ-2D launch (includes all versions CZ-2D with 3 launches, CZ-2D(2) with 45 launches and CZ-2D(2)/YZ-3 with one launch).

They just recycled the patch for the Shiyan 6-02 launch

EDIT: I don't know why the image from the original post doesn't appear, but the patch is the same with just some details and colours changed. They even left there the "49", that in that occasion indicated the 49th launch of a CZ-2D.
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 04/09/2021 04:40 pm
Rui's overview:

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2021/04/china-experimental-satellite-long-march-4c/

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1380560939628498945

Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 04/09/2021 04:57 pm
Launch code could be "05-79" (to be confirmed)
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 04/09/2021 05:31 pm
Two objects cataloged

B 992 x 1001 km x 99.5 (payload?)  48158
A 761 x 991 x 99.5 (rocket)    48157
A and B have now been switched:

2021-028A/48157 in 989 x 1002 km x 99.51° (payload)
2021-028B/48158 in 760 x 993 km x 99.58°  (rocket)
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 04/09/2021 06:00 pm
Taking into account "space environment survey" and optical capabilities of the satellite (as described in the related article from the National Nanoscience Center (http://www.nanoctr.cn/zytp2017/202104/t20210409_5991473.html)), the mission could be optical surveillance of space objects
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: jcm on 04/10/2021 09:42 pm
Note that the satellite image above is art of the French Pleiades satellite they took off the web, and not an accurate representation of Shiyan 6-03 (presumably)
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 04/13/2021 07:48 am
Note that the satellite image above is art of the French Pleiades satellite they took off the web, and not an accurate representation of Shiyan 6-03 (presumably)

I guess folks at Nanoscience Center have read your comment and the satellite picture has now been replaced by this one, presenting the sun-facing panel
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 04/13/2021 11:57 am
This seems to be the location on the spacecraft of the super-black protection plate from the Nanoscience center (http://www.nanoctr.cn/zytp2017/202104/t20210409_5991473.html)
Title: Re: Shiyan-6-03 - CZ-4B - Taiyuan - April 8, 2021 (23:01 UTC)
Post by: jcm on 04/14/2021 12:42 am
Note that the satellite image above is art of the French Pleiades satellite they took off the web, and not an accurate representation of Shiyan 6-03 (presumably)

I guess folks at Nanoscience Center have read your comment and the satellite picture has now been replaced by this one, presenting the sun-facing panel

Hah, awesome...