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Title: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 10/06/2020 02:21 pm
There's apparently another group of the YG-31 triplet in Jiuquan right now as per press releases made during the PRC establishment anniversary on October 1st: https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1313480944498679813 (https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1313480944498679813)
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - mid-October 2020 (?)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 10/13/2020 05:50 am
Recent launch intervals:
China launches in 2020 from Jiuquan LC43/94 and 43/91 (times in UTC)

May 31 (08:53) - CZ-2D (Y51) - JSLC (01-115), LC43/94 - Gaofen-9 (02); HEAD-4 (HEDE-4)

June 17 (07:19:04.327) - CZ-2D (Y52) - JSLC (01-116), LC43/94 - Gaofen-9 (03), Zheda Pixing-3A, HEAD-5 (HEDE-5)  17 days

July 4 (23:44:04.111) - CZ-2D (Y29) - JSLC, LC43/94 - Shiyan Weixing-6 (02) 'Chuangxin-3A (02)'                              18 days

August 6 (04:01:54.278) - CZ-2D (Y56) - JSLC, LC43/94 - GF-9 (04); Tsinghua Kexue Weixīng (Q-Sat)                        33 days

August 23 (02:27:04.117) - CZ-2D (Y57) - JSLC, LC43/94 - Gaofen-9 (05); Tiantuo-5, Duo Gongneng Shiyan Weixing   17 days

September 4 (~07:30) - CZ-2F/T3 - JSLC, LC43/91 - Chongfu Shiyong Shiyan Hangtian Qi, SubSat                              12 days

September 21 (05:40:04.276) - CZ-4B (Y41) - JSLC (01-120), LC43/94 - Haiyang-2C                                                  17 days
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - mid-October 2020 (?)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 10/18/2020 03:19 pm
Some rumors regarding all LM-4 series launches:

There are reports that all Long March 4 series launches (https://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=93144&pid=771018) will be grounded till "end of this year" due to unspecified problems with the rockets.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - December(?) 2020
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 11/17/2020 06:39 pm
Follow-up cross-posts:
There are reports that all Long March 4 series launches (https://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=93144&pid=771018) will be grounded till "end of this year" due to unspecified problems with the rockets.

The same person is currently reporting that he/she does not expect any LM-4 launches in November, “maybe one” in December. (https://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=92830&pid=773296)

And:
To be launched:
-0X Dec 2020 Long March 4B Yaogan-31-02

What is/are newfrontiers' sources?
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - NET December 20, 2020
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 12/10/2020 05:24 pm
Cross-post; my bold:
To be launched:
-20 Dec 2020 Long March 8
-2X Dec 2020 Long March 4C

All others will be delayed to next year, so 39 in total.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - NET December 20, 2020
Post by: Satori on 12/13/2020 11:47 am
According to 9ifly Chinese space forum, this launch was pushed to 2021.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - 2021
Post by: Satori on 01/04/2021 12:53 pm
Possibly to launch January 2021.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January (?) 2021
Post by: Alter Sachse on 01/21/2021 09:43 am
 February 4 (?)

http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/long-march-4c-rocket-launch-yaogan-31-satellite?instance_id=4184
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - 4 February (?) 2021
Post by: Satori on 01/26/2021 12:01 pm
The launch can take place in the next days as Yuan Wang 7 just arrived at the Timor Sea, south of Bali, indicatingthe possibility of launch.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - 4 February (?) 2021
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 01/26/2021 05:53 pm
The launch can take place in the next days as Yuan Wang 7 just arrived at the Timor Sea, south of Bali, indicating the possibility of launch.

Follow-on to:
For YG-31-02 we should have a more solid date once the Yuan Wang 7 tracking ship moves to its position (Timor Sea?). It's currently moving to the east of Philippines.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - 4 February (?) 2021
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/27/2021 03:04 am
The launch can take place in the next days as Yuan Wang 7 just arrived at the Timor Sea, south of Bali, indicating the possibility of launch.

Follow-on to:
For YG-31-02 we should have a more solid date once the Yuan Wang 7 tracking ship moves to its position (Timor Sea?). It's currently moving to the east of Philippines.

In fact YW-7 has already arrived at the usual spot in the Timor Sea for JSLC 63 degrees inclination launches since yesterday.

This launch can happen any time now, perhaps even today. Yet there's nothing else that can prove its existence...
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January (?) 2021
Post by: Liss on 01/27/2021 06:48 am
Seems to be our NOTAM:

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A0165/21 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N360403E1044718-N355510E1043036-N361529E1041407-N362722E1043627 BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 29 JAN 04:38 2021 UNTIL 29 JAN 05:05 2021. CREATED: 27 JAN 07:27 2021
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (~04:45 UTC)
Post by: Liss on 01/27/2021 08:07 am
Looks very much like the NOTAM zone of 10 Dec 2014.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (~04:45 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/27/2021 09:19 am
and also similar area defined by waypoints in NOTAM for April 10, 2018 (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=45445.msg1808765#msg1808765) (YG-31 Group 01)

New NOTAMed area below
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (~04:45 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/29/2021 04:08 am
Liftoff confirmed, at ~04:48 UTC.

https://twitter.com/iBd6S77Ivw72xPk/status/1355016682637557760?s=19
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (~04:45 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/29/2021 04:25 am
Launch success has been confirmed with T-0 at 04:47 UTC.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (~04:45 UTC)
Post by: sdsds on 01/29/2021 04:36 am
I'm confused by the color of the plumes in the photos above.
The photos near the pad show N2O4 / UDMH coloring but not the photo showing no apparent plume, nor the one showing a white plume. How does that work? Is the coloring of the plume near the pad from some source other than the propellant (e.g. dust)?
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: otter on 01/29/2021 05:51 am
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-01/29/c_139706736.htm

China launches new remote sensing satellites
2021-01-29 13:45:09

JIUQUAN, Jan. 29 (Xinhua) -- The second group of China's Yaogan-31 remote sensing satellites were sent into space from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center in northwest China on Friday at 12:47 p.m. (Beijing Time).

The satellites were carried by a Long March-4C rocket. It was the 359th flight mission of the Long March carrier rocket series, the launch center said.

Having entered their planned orbits, the satellites will be used for electromagnetic environment surveys and other related technology tests.

China launched the first group of the Yaogan-31 remote sensing satellites in 2018.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: Liss on 01/29/2021 06:40 am
Shanghai Aerospace quotes a different task for the satellites -- sort of strange.

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主要用于科学试验研究、海洋和陆地资源普查等任务
They are mainly used for scientific experiment research, marine and terrestrial surveys and other tasks
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: Liss on 01/29/2021 08:29 am
Six objects has been found in expected orbits but in new orbital plane 48 E of YG-31 01.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: eeergo on 01/29/2021 08:43 am
I'm confused by the color of the plumes in the photos above.
The photos near the pad show N2O4 / UDMH coloring but not the photo showing no apparent plume, nor the one showing a white plume. How does that work? Is the coloring of the plume near the pad from some source other than the propellant (e.g. dust)?

Initial ignition exhaust is oxidizer-rich (nitrogen tetroxide = red smoke). There's also the contribution of dust being kicked up by turbulence around the pad, once the exhaust footprint is no longer just funneled through the trench, when the rocket has ascended a few tens of meters but is still close to the ground: it's more of a light brown color, as is the clay-rich terrain in the Gobi region Jiuquan sits on.

Stable ignition in flight regime is more stoichiometrically-balanced, therefore the plume is mostly invisible unless lightning favors seeing its grey-orangish tint (in other hypergolic launches, it's quite visible if there is some amount of back-illumination).

The white "plume" is actually a contrail at around 10-20 km altitude, where condensation of the water vapor in the exhaust occurs through a similar process as with airplane contrails.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/29/2021 11:20 am
Rui's article:

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2021/01/long-march-4c-lofts-three-yaogan-weixing-31-satellites/
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/29/2021 02:51 pm
Short launch video from Channel 13:
https://tv.cctv.com/2021/01/29/VIDEQbDs75Dq9a44c3liJ5Fd210129.shtml

Launch code could be: 01-122
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: Liss on 01/29/2021 05:05 pm
Rui's article:

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2021/01/long-march-4c-lofts-three-yaogan-weixing-31-satellites/

Well, it's officially Yaogan 31, not Yaogan Weixing 31.
And they are 48 degrees east of the previous triplet, not 43 degrees.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: jcm on 01/29/2021 05:30 pm
Rui's article:

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2021/01/long-march-4c-lofts-three-yaogan-weixing-31-satellites/

Well, it's officially Yaogan 31, not Yaogan Weixing 31.
And they are 48 degrees east of the previous triplet, not 43 degrees.

Strictly the Chinese language reports eg.  https://news.sina.com.cn/c/2021-01-29/doc-ikftssap1689928.shtml and
https://www.cast.cn/3g/news/6947
call it 遥感三十一号02组卫星,   Yaogan 31 hao 02 zu weixing.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: Alter Sachse on 01/30/2021 04:41 pm
There are no photos with the exact launch time ?
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: zandr on 01/30/2021 08:44 pm
11 minutes before the launch. The estimated time 12:47.55
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/31/2021 05:16 pm
2021-007A/47532 in 1091 x 1097 km x 63.4°
2021-007B/47533 in 1090 x 1098 km x 63.4°
2021-007C/47534 in 1091 x 1096 km x 63.4°
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: Liss on 02/03/2021 07:06 pm
Objects A, B and E are maneuvering. Obviously the 18SPCS should exchange designations for C and E.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: Josh_from_Canada on 02/14/2021 02:42 am
Object A is far behind Object B and Object E. Both Object B and Object E have also separated from each other. This amount of separation is not seen in any of the other Yaogan trio launches.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: Liss on 02/14/2021 05:32 pm
Object A is far behind Object B and Object E. Both Object B and Object E have also separated from each other. This amount of separation is not seen in any of the other Yaogan trio launches.
Let's see again by February 24 or so.
Title: Re: Yaogan 31 Group 02 - CZ-4C - Jiuquan - January 29, 2021 (04:47 UTC)
Post by: Liss on 02/24/2021 07:38 am
Object A is far behind Object B and Object E. Both Object B and Object E have also separated from each other. This amount of separation is not seen in any of the other Yaogan trio launches.
Let's see again by February 24 or so.
As expected, objects A, B, and E met again at the 1090 km operational orbit, with A being the outlier.