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Title: FAILURE: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (05:02 UTC)
Post by: Satori on 07/13/2020 10:15 am
The high resolution remote sensing satellite for the Jilin-1 constellation, Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C, will be launched by a Kuaizhou-1A launch vehicle from the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center in August 2020.
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - TSLC - September 2020
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 09/01/2020 09:11 pm
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1298170508232364033
Quote
(CONFIRMED) An additional 3 sats for the Jilin-1 EO constellation was sent out on Aug. 24 (HR-02C/D/F, the previous 9 are 03x). They will fly on 3 separate launches, apparently KZ-1As out of Taiyuan in quick succession.

Cross-post:
Planned launches in September

September, Long March 11 Sea Launch, Jilin 1 High Score 03 series nine satellites of Changguang Satellite Company
September Ceres 1 solid rocket Jiuquan (review completed on July 3, 2019, and confirmed the first flight time)
September Kuaizhou-1A Jiuquan Changguang Satellite Jilin-1 High Score 02C
September Kuaizhou-1A Jiuquan Changguang Satellite Jilin-1 High Score 02D
September Kuaizhou-1A Jiuquan Changguang Satellite Jilin-1 High Score 02F
Late September Long March No. 4B Taiyuan Ocean No. 3 Star (HY-2C)
(automatic translation)

*High Score = Gaofen

http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/china-launch-schedule

EDIT Launch threads for:
Jilin-1 Gaofen-02D (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=51914.0)
Jilin-1 Gaofen-02F (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=51915.0)
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Taiyuan - September 2020
Post by: Liss on 09/10/2020 10:25 pm
It seems a KZ-1A may be launched on Sep 11 at approx 0330 UTC from Jiuquan:

A3487/20 - FLW SEGMENT OF ATS RTE CLSD:
1. A596: YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-DENGKOU VOR 'DKO'.
2. V67:  N393931E1003646-YABRAI VOR 'YBL'. 11 SEP 03:10 2020 UNTIL 11 SEP 04:30 2020. CREATED: 10 SEP 13:19 2020

A3490/20 - FLW SEGMENT OF ATS RTE CLSD:
1. V67:  YABRAI VOR 'YBL'-JIAYUGUAN VOR 'CHW'.
2. W191: TOSAP-MULRU.
3. W112: BILDA-TUSLI.
4. B215: OMGUP-NIXUK. 11 SEP 03:06 2020 UNTIL 11 SEP 04:36 2020. CREATED: 10 SEP 15:14 2020
Title: Re: ? - KZ-1A - Juiquan - September 11, 2020 (~03:30 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 09/11/2020 03:36 am
Launch could be happening now.
Title: Re: ? - KZ-1A - Juiquan - September 11, 2020 (~03:30 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 09/11/2020 04:54 am
Launch could be happening now.
Nothing?
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Taiyuan - September 2020
Post by: Liss on 09/11/2020 07:08 am
At 9ifly, they said it could be a missile launch.
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Taiyuan - September 2020
Post by: Liss on 09/11/2020 03:30 pm
Well, this time there are NOTAMs for three launches with five days intervals.

A3505/20 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N394156E1000354-N394301E0995704-N395613E1000032-N395508E1000726 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL. ALL ACFT SHALL BE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE RESTRICTED AREA. SFC - UNL, 0453-0529 12, 0611-0647 17, 22, 12 SEP 04:53 2020 UNTIL 22 SEP 06:47 2020. CREATED: 11 SEP 09:28 2020

A3506/20 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N304059E0974550-N304323E0973336-N312020E0974316-N311756E0975534 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL. ALL ACFT SHALL BE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE RESTRICTED AREA. GND - UNL, 0454-0534 12, 0612-0652 17 22, 12 SEP 04:54 2020 UNTIL 22 SEP 06:52 2020. CREATED: 11 SEP 09:34 2020
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Taiyuan - September 2020
Post by: Alter Sachse on 09/11/2020 03:30 pm
2020年9月12日 @ 13:02

=05:02 UTC

http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/china-kz-1a-rocket-launch-jilin-1-gaofen-02c-satellites?instance_id=3662
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 09/12/2020 03:40 am
Unfortunately, the Astra launch from Kodiak, a few minutes ago, failed (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=51231.0).
This launch is the second orbital launch scheduled today (UTC).
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 09/12/2020 05:19 am
Any news?
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: otter on 09/12/2020 05:20 am
Launched ~13:05 local time

https://weibo.com/5616492130/Jkh4YhHvY
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: Satori on 09/12/2020 05:47 am
No news of launch success until now...
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: Satori on 09/12/2020 05:50 am
There is a launch photo posted on 9ifly Chinese space forum, but I'm not sure that it is from this launch...
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: otter on 09/12/2020 06:23 am
Looks like a launch success

https://weibo.com/5616492130/JkhtQqTSW

Liftoff - 13:02 local time
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/12/2020 06:29 am
It took quite some more time than usual, but launch success has finally been confirmed with T-0 at 05:02 UTC.

And yes it's Jilin-1 HR-02C, this time with the sponsored name of "Inner Mongolia 1" as CASIC marked their cooperation with their regional government.
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/12/2020 06:55 am
Hmm, then lack of news has persisted for some time and now there are reports that the launch did fail... :-\
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: otter on 09/12/2020 07:06 am
And the weibo post from China Aerospace about the launch success was deleted
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: Kryten on 09/12/2020 07:23 am
 If this is a failure then that brings us to 8 complete launch failures: numbers like that haven't been seen since the early 80s, this really is a bloodbath of a year. I put '5-8 complete failures' in my 2020 prediction post and thought that was pessimistic, now it's hanging by a thread.
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: Svetoslav on 09/12/2020 07:29 am
If this is a failure then that brings us to 8 complete launch failures: numbers like that haven't been seen since the early 80s, this really is a bloodbath of a year. I put '5-8 complete failures' in my 2020 prediction post and thought that was pessimistic, now it's hanging by a thread.

But we had the launch of three brand new rockets - LauncherOne, KZ-11 and Astra.

Plus, problems with some rockets like Electron are just starting to show up.

Quite normal.
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: Nordren on 09/12/2020 07:47 am
Long March 7A was a new launcher too.
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: Svetoslav on 09/12/2020 07:52 am
Indeed. And we can also include the Simorgh launcher.

And the situation is quite different compared to 70s-80s. Back them, quite a lot of planetary launches failed. Now we have all three missions to Mars launched successfully. Solar Orbiter too. We haven't had a failure of a crewed craft, thanks goodness.

Truly, most of the failures today affect new rockets.

Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: Liss on 09/12/2020 08:02 am
Images from 9ifly:
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: SciNews on 09/12/2020 08:14 am
There was an initial report of a successful launch, but it has been deleted.
"Jilin-1 Gaofen 02C satellite launched successfully
At 13:02 on September 12, 2020, China successfully launched the "jilin-1" Gaofen 02C satellite (also known as "Inner Mongolia-1" satellite) into the scheduled orbit with Kuaizhou-1A carrier rocket at Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center, and the launch was successful.
Jilin-1 Gaofen 02C satellite is a high-resolution optical remote sensing satellite, which is developed by Changguang Satellite Technology Co., Ltd. It is mainly used to obtain high-resolution color static images of earth observation. Its panchromatic resolution is better than 0.76 meters, and its width is more than 40 kilometers. It will provide a reference for land and resources monitoring, mineral resources development, forestry resources survey, ecological environment monitoring and other fields in China For commercial remote sensing services.
Kuaizhou-1A launch vehicle is a small solid launch vehicle developed by Aerospace Science and industry Rocket Technology Co., Ltd., which belongs to aerospace Sanjiang group of China Aerospace Science and Industry Group Co., Ltd. It mainly provides launch service for low orbit small satellites, and has the characteristics of high orbit accuracy, short preparation period and low launch cost.
This mission is the 10th launch of the kuaizhou-1a carrier rocket."

Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: daedalus1 on 09/12/2020 08:31 am
Indeed. And we can also include the Simorgh launcher.

And the situation is quite different compared to 70s-80s. Back them, quite a lot of planetary launches failed. Now we have all three missions to Mars launched successfully. Solar Orbiter too. We haven't had a failure of a crewed craft, thanks goodness.

Truly, most of the failures today affect new rockets.

Off topic but, Soyuz 10 Oct 2018 abort to orbit. So not true about manned spacecraft.
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (05:02 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 09/12/2020 08:40 am
NOTAMs# A3505/20 & A3506/20 for Sept 17 and 22 are still up at 0840Z
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (05:02 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/12/2020 08:46 am
The lack of statements even up to now seems to indicate probable scenarios of something other than a full rocket failure - remember that in cases of partial failures (e.g. ChinaSat 9A) or even good rocket flight but satellite failure (e.g. ChinaSat 18) their local media often treats the cases in the same way.

Nothing reported from USAF 18SPCS on tracking data yet.
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (05:02 UTC)
Post by: otter on 09/12/2020 10:06 am
From Xinhua

http://www.xinhuanet.com/2020-09/12/c_1126486097.htm

web translation:

"Jilin One" Gaofen 02C satellite launch failed

2020-09-12 17:54:38 Source: Xinhuanet

Xinhua News Agency, Jiuquan, September 12th. At 13:2 on September 12th, our country used the Kuaizhou-1A carrier rocket to launch the "Jilin-1" Gaofen 02C satellite at the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center. The rocket flight was abnormal and the launch mission failed. The specific reasons are being further analyzed and investigated.
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (05:02 UTC)
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 09/12/2020 10:26 am
So, 72 launchers so far with eight failures, giving a failure rate of 11%!
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (05:02 UTC)
Post by: Alter Sachse on 09/12/2020 10:39 am
The second Jilin Gaofen satellite lost this year.
Title: Re: FAILURE: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (05:02 UTC)
Post by: otter on 09/12/2020 10:51 am
China's launch of new satellite fails

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-09/12/c_139363535.htm

JIUQUAN, Sept. 12 (Xinhua) -- Optical remote-sensing satellite Jilin-1 Gaofen 02C, which was launched aboard the Kuaizhou-1A carrier rocket from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center in northwest China at 13:02 p.m. (Beijing time) on Saturday, failed to enter the preset orbit.

Abnormal performance was identified during the rocket's flight, said the launch center.

The cause of the failure is under investigation.
Title: Re: FAILURE: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (05:02 UTC)
Post by: Alter Sachse on 09/12/2020 10:54 am
According to baidu.com it was KZ-1A Y3.
Title: Re: FAILURE: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (05:02 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/12/2020 01:02 pm
There's a rumor that it was the liquid upper stage that had failed here.
Title: Re: FAILURE: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (05:02 UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 09/12/2020 01:43 pm
Rui's article:
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1304750005924892672
Title: Re: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (~05:00 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 09/12/2020 04:02 pm
Unfortunately, the Astra launch from Kodiak, a few minutes ago, failed (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=51231.0).
This launch is the second orbital launch scheduled today (UTC).
Two orbital launch failures in one UTC day. :(
(The water has been muddied whether or not Astra Rocket 3.1 was even capable of putting the upper stage into orbit.)
Is that some kind of record?
Title: Re: FAILURE: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (05:02 UTC)
Post by: Liss on 09/12/2020 05:01 pm
Last time it occured on 21 Jun 2005.
Title: Re: FAILURE: Jilin-1 Gaofen-02C - KZ-1A - Jiuquan - September 12, 2020 (05:02 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 09/15/2020 02:44 pm
According to baidu.com it was KZ-1A Y3.
According to Chinese sources for the 3 launches of the Jilin-Gaofen satellites KZ-1A Y3
Y4 and Y5 are used.