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Post by: Chris Bergin on 10/17/2006 08:50 pm
http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=10894834&PageNum=1
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Post by: tonyq on 10/30/2006 08:35 pm
The Koreans are down to the last thirty in their hunt for two candidates to send to Russia


http://english.kbs.co.kr/news/newsview_sub.php?menu=6&key=2006102714


Korean Astronaut Candidates Reduced to 30
Friday, October 27, 2006 12:29:47  
 
 
The number of candidates to become Korea’s first astronaut has dropped to 30.

The Korea Aerospace Research Institute announced Friday that after a second screening test it had selected 25 men and 5 women from 245 astronaut hopefuls who passed the first round.

Among them, the youngest is a 23-year-old female graduate student at the Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology. A 49-year-old professor is the oldest.

Early next year, the two final candidates will begin training at Russia’s Gagarin Space Center.

Only one will become the first Korean astronaut to board the Russian Soyuz spacecraft in April 2008.

Reported by KBS WORLD Radio

 
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Post by: hektor on 10/30/2006 08:46 pm
Reminds me of Juno.
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Post by: tonyq on 11/04/2006 04:57 pm
Here is a Korean language photo article on the five female candidates.

http://www.joins.com/article/2489775.html?ctg=16


They are aged between 23 and 31 and four have scientific backgrounds, while the fifth is a TV reporter on SBS, Han Sun Hui.

Some other reports which I've put through babelfish state that the Koreans have decided to pick a man and a woman as their finalists, in which case these girls each have a one in four chance to be selected.

The next round of selections will be announced on 24th November, when they will reduce the field to ten candidates.  



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Post by: hektor on 11/04/2006 09:57 pm
Really like Juno... a man and a woman as finalist.

Five female candidates ? one in four chance to be selected ? could you explain ?
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Post by: tonyq on 11/05/2006 12:48 am
Hektor - what I meant was 4 to 1 chance of being selected. One gets picked, four don't, which is ofcourse 1 in 5 !!

You are right though, a bit like Juno all over again, if they go for a man and a woman.

Incidentally, the youngest candidates are age 23 and 24. If they were to be selected, and the planned schedule of April 2008 in maintained, they have a chance to become the youngest person in space ever, beating Gherman Titov's record from 1961.
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Post by: tonyq on 11/24/2006 07:32 am
Koreans now down to 10 candidates, 7 men and 3 women.

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/archives/result_contents.asp?id=200611240061&query=astronaut

The Ministry of Science and Technology and the Korea Aerospace Research Institute today named 10 candidates for the country's first-ever spaceman.
The 10 candidates barely made it out of 30 hopefuls in the third screening process, which included physical fitness, aptitude and situation assessments at the Republic of Korea Air Force Medical Center in Cheongju, North Chungcheong Province, Oct. 31 - Nov. 23.

Half of them were in their 20s and another half in their 30s. Seven were males and another three females. Two were married and another eight unmarried, the ministry said.

Park Ji-young, a 23-year-old master's course student at the Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology, was the youngest among the 10 candidates. Lee Jin-young, a 36-year-old squadron leader, was the oldest.

By occupation, there were four researchers, two master's course students, one air force combat battalion leader and one police lieutenant.

The 10 candidates are currently undergoing a three-day test at a space camp located within the SBS Ilsan-Tanhyun Studio. Camp evaluation will test candidates' abilities to control equipment, work in flight simulators and cooperate in a team.

Two hopefuls will be dropped after the camp evaluation, said the ministry, while the remaining eight will go to Russia on Dec. 3 to receive more rigorous tests at Russia's Yuri Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center. Tests include performing underwater missions and riding on airplanes under the weightless condition.

The ministry and KARI will further trim the number of candidates to six on Dec. 16, and select the two finalists on Dec. 25. The Dec. 25 final screening process, which will also assess mass appeal, will be aired in real time on SBS at 18:50-20:00.

The two finalists will receive space and mission trainings at the Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center for a year. But only one of them will be finally chosen and ride on the Russian manned spacecraft Soyuz in April 2008. The future astronaut will travel to the International Space Station via the Soyuz capsule to conduct various tasks involving scientific experiments, residing in the Russian module of the ISS.


*10 candidates: Go San (30, unmarried, researcher at Samsung Advanced Institute of Technology), Kim Young-min (33, married, researcher at Korea Basic Science Institute), Ryu Jeong-won (33, married, chief technology officer at IT Magic Co.), Park Ji-young (23, female, master's course student at the Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology), Yoon Seok-oh (29, unmarried, official at Hanyang University), Lee So-hyun (28, female, unmarried, researcher at the KAIST), Lee Jin-young (36, married, squadron leader at Republic of Korea Air Force), Lee Han-gyu (33, unmarried, researcher at Samsung SDI), Jang Jun-seong (25, unmarried, lieutenant at Bucheon Nambu Police Station), Choi Ah-jeong (24, female, unmarried, master's course student at Seoul National University)

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Post by: hektor on 11/24/2006 08:49 am
Link seems broken
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Post by: SMS on 11/25/2006 08:55 pm
here is their photos

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Post by: lmike on 11/26/2006 06:06 am
SMS, thank you for the photos.
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Post by: hektor on 11/26/2006 09:21 pm
Ok, who is who, from left to right ?
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Post by: tonyq on 11/26/2006 10:13 pm
According to the Korean press, these 10 are under going further tests this weekend and then 2 will be eliminated, with only 8 going to Russia.

After that, another 2 will be eliminated with the final 6 going forward to a live TV finale on Xmas Day.

Sounds to me like this is being run like a reality TV show.

My money is on the pilot, plus one of the women.
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Post by: SMS on 11/28/2006 06:52 pm
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hektor - 26/11/2006  11:04 PM

Ok, who is who, from left to right ?

here is answer to this question (http://www.joins.com/component/htmlphoto_mmdata/200611/htm_2006112507043630003010-002.JPG)
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Post by: hektor on 11/30/2006 04:29 pm
Thanks - guessing from the ages in the table:
1 is Ryu Jeong-won
2 is Kim Young-min
3 is Lee Jin-young
4 is Choi Ah-jeong
5 is Go San
6 is Lee So-hyun
7 is Yoon Seok-oh
8 is Park Ji-young
9 is Jang Jun-seong
10 is Lee Han-gyu
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Post by: anik on 11/30/2006 07:21 pm
According to Novosti kosmonavtiki website, the contract about spaceflight of the first South Korean astronaut between Russian Federal Space Agency (Roskosmos) and representatives of government of South Korea will be signed on December 7...

Two candidates will begin training to flight in Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center (GCTC) in spring of 2007...
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Post by: tonyq on 12/03/2006 09:21 am
As predicted, Korea have eliminated two more candidates this week and the final eight have left for Moscow.

Five men and three women are left in the running.

The two knocked out were numbers 1 and 10 on the group photo posted previously.
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Post by: tonyq on 12/05/2006 12:10 am
Some of the Koreans at Star City on Monday.

The girl is Park Ji-Young 23 year old Master's course student at the Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology.

If she was to be selected, and the Spring 2008 timetable is adhered to, she would become the youngest person in space.
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Post by: tonyq on 12/06/2006 09:10 pm
Photos of the three female candidates
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Post by: hektor on 12/07/2006 02:51 pm
Have they included "looking good" in their criteria ? It would not be surprising, given the "reality show" taste of the selection process.

The Malaysians did that, Sheikh Muszaphar is a model, beyond his academic capacities.
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Post by: anik on 12/07/2006 03:41 pm
The contract about spaceflight of the first South Korean astronaut to ISS was signed today in Moscow...
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Post by: tonyq on 12/11/2006 12:56 pm
The Koreans now have their final six, four men and two women.

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Post by: hektor on 12/11/2006 02:04 pm
From the pictures I guess that the remaining candidates are

top row, from left to right:
*Jang Jun-seong
*Lee So-hyun (f)
*Lee Jin-young
bottom row, from left to right:
*Yoon Seok-oh
*Park Ji-young (f)
*Go San

Could anyone confirm ?
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Post by: tonyq on 12/11/2006 09:58 pm
Yes Hecktor, you seem to have ID'd them all correctly, although there may be some variation in the transliteration of some names.
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Post by: TALsite on 12/12/2006 12:06 pm
Two of them are named Young.  Does it means Jr.?

As Tonyq said, I put my money in a man and a women:

Go San (look at the name of his Institute), and
Park Ji-young,  23 years and a charm smile for the media and the public.

IMO  I think Titov’s record would be valuable even in the fact the girl fly, because it isn’t the same preparation and responsabilities for a PROFESSIONAL cosmonaut/astronaut than an Spaceflight participant.

I’m trying to remember… and think Lance Bass was able to beat the record when he was trying to sing from the orbit.
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Post by: SMS on 12/13/2006 09:01 pm
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hektor - 11/12/2006  3:47 PM

From the pictures I guess that the remaining candidates are

top row, from left to right:
*Jang Jun-seong
*Lee So-hyun (f)
*Lee Jin-young
bottom row, from left to right:
*Yoon Seok-oh
*Park Ji-young (f)
*Go San

Could anyone confirm ?

Here is their data (http://news.joins.com/component/htmlphoto_mmdata/200612/htm_2006121206223830003010-001.JPG)

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Post by: hektor on 12/14/2006 09:20 pm
They are NOT spaceflight participants... Spaceflight particpants are Ansari or Simonyi.

They are Research Cosmonauts.
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Post by: hektor on 12/16/2006 08:08 am
When is the next elimination, down to four ?
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Post by: tonyq on 12/16/2006 01:13 pm
Korean media reports say they will pick the final two during a live TV show on 25th December.
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Post by: hektor on 12/16/2006 02:00 pm
So no intermediate at four, directly from six to two.

When they are two, will there be a Prime and a back-up or is it decided later ?
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Post by: tonyq on 12/16/2006 03:59 pm
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hektor - 16/12/2006  8:43 AM

So no intermediate at four, directly from six to two.
?

Yes, that is what the Korean press are indicating.


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When they are two, will there be a Prime and a back-up or is it decided later ?




It's not clear from what I've read. The Malaysians picked their prime and back-up at this point in the process. Maybe that was the way they wished to play it, or maybe the Russians require it to be done this way, so they can be paired with the right core crews.

I guess we'll have wait and see
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Post by: hektor on 12/24/2006 12:14 pm
Decision tomorrow
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Post by: SMS on 12/25/2006 10:51 am
2 Finalists for Korea's 1st Astronaut Picked
 
The two finalists for Korea's first astronaut have been selected.

Go San is a 30-year-old researcher of computer vision and human intelligence at Samsung Advanced Institute of Technology.

Lee So-yeon is a 28-year-old female doctorate student at Korea Institute of Science and Technology.

The two finalists will go to Russia in March for training, but only one of them will get to board a Soyuz spacecraft to go to the International Space Station orbiting the earth in April 2008.

The Science and Technology Ministry says 36,000 candidates applied for the two spots, and that the finalists survived several grueling rounds of evaluations on abilities and aptitude.

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Post by: tonyq on 12/25/2006 11:16 am
Can I just offer my congratulations to Soyeon.

I havehad direct contact with her during the final stages of the selection process.

She seems to be a very able and personable girl who really wanted this.

I will be rooting for her over the next 15 months and hoping she gets the ride.

What a great Christmas present !!
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Post by: hektor on 12/25/2006 06:18 pm
I have created wikipedia entries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_So-yeon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko_San
Please feel free to improve them.
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Post by: hektor on 12/26/2006 09:29 am
So now we can start wondering about the third seat of Soyuz TMA-13 in the fall of 2008:
- expedition crew
- visiting ESA astronaut
- first citizen in space for a new space faring nation
- spaceflight participant
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Post by: anik on 12/26/2006 06:19 pm
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hektor - 26/12/2006  1:12 PM

So now we can start wondering about the third seat of Soyuz TMA-13 in the fall of 2008

Aleksey Krasnov, the head of Department of piloted programs of Roskosmos, has told on press-conference after docking of Soyuz TMA-9 spacecraft to ISS on September 20, that the second spaceflight of Anousheh Ansari is planned at this time, because it was initial date of her spaceflight before replacing of Daisuke Enomoto...
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Post by: hektor on 12/26/2006 06:29 pm
Are you sure she wants to purchase a second ticket ?
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Post by: tonyq on 12/26/2006 06:31 pm
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Aleksey Krasnov, the head of Department of piloted programs of Roskosmos, has told on press-conference after docking of Soyuz TMA-9 spacecraft to ISS on September 20, that the second spaceflight of Anousheh Ansari is planned at this time, because it was initial date of her spaceflight before replacing of Daisuke Enomoto...


I am just finalising a lengthy feature about Anousheh for 'Spaceflight' which will be published in the new year. In response to a question on this very subject, on 23rd November, Anousheh told me by e-mail :-

"I think the only sure thing for me now is that I will do a suborbital
flight.  I would love to fly to orbit/ISS/ moon and beyond but I have not
made any plans at this time."

Krasnov did say recently that all seat were sold until 2009, so presumably someone is pencilled in for TMA-13.

Ofcourse Enomoto may come back into the picture, assuming his grounding really was medical and not for some other reason.

There was mention some time ago about the Russians doing an aircraft barter deal, like they have with Malaysia, but with Venezuela. There was also mention just after Anousheh returned that they had a Russian female tourist lined up, but this sounds doubtful to me.



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Post by: anik on 12/27/2006 05:01 pm
According to http://www.rian.ru/technology/cosmos/20061227/57908849.html (in Russian), two South-Korean candidates will arrive into Russian Institute of Medical and Biologic Problems (IMBP) for passing of final medical examination on January 15, 2007... Their preparation to spaceflight at Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Centre (GCTC) will begin in the end of March - the beginning of April 2007...
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Post by: anik on 01/17/2007 04:30 pm
According to ARMS-TASS (http://arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=35063&cid=125) (in Russian) news agency, two South-Korean candidates have begun medical examination at GCTC on January 15... Their medical examination will last about 10 days... Medical-expert commission (VEK) is planned on January 24... On the basis of VEK conclusion the Russian Main Medical Board (GMK) will decide in the beginning of February, whether two South-Korean candidates can begin preparation in GCTC...
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Post by: hektor on 01/17/2007 05:26 pm
I think that would be a really bad thing if these guys were not considered fit by the commission. Very unlikely though.
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Post by: tonyq on 01/22/2007 12:32 pm
According to the Korean news agencies today, the two Korean candidates will stay in Russia for a further week. They were due to go home on 24th January, but this is put back to 1st February.

The reason is given, that they have both had colds since arriving in Russia last week, and this has affected their ability to complete the medical and physical tests required satisfactorily.

Bearing in mind the high standards the Russians require of cosmonaut candidates, this doesn't sound like particularly good news for the Koreans.

I wonder if they have any 'reserves' among the remaining four finalists ?
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Post by: tonyq on 02/01/2007 06:54 am
Korean media has reported that both candidates have now passed their medicals and will be formally confirmed as fit to start their cosmonaut training in few days.

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/02/01/200702010060.asp
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Post by: anik on 02/19/2007 06:03 pm
According to http://www.spacenews.ru/spacenews/live/full_news.asp?id=19848 (in Russian), both South Korean candidates will depart to Russia again on February 27... Their preparation to spaceflight at GCTC will begin on March 7...
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Post by: anik on 02/22/2007 08:17 pm
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hektor - 26/12/2006  1:29 PM

So now we can start wondering about the third seat of Soyuz TMA-13 in the fall of 2008:
- expedition crew
- visiting ESA astronaut
- first citizen in space for a new space faring nation
- spaceflight participant

I heard rumour today that it will be spaceflight participant ("space tourist")... His name will be announced by Space Adventures soon... He is from United States and his medical examination at GCTC is planned in April or May 2007...
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Post by: Suzy on 02/22/2007 11:06 pm
Another rich American? *Yawn* Russia seems to be launching everyone but their own professional cosmonauts!  :angry:
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Post by: Tobi on 02/23/2007 05:53 am
You may be right, Suzy,
Looking at the Soyuz flight crews during the last 5 years, you will find only two flights (TMA-1 and TMA-5) with more than one russian crew member...
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Post by: lmike on 02/24/2007 09:58 am
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Suzy - 22/2/2007  4:06 PM

Another rich American? *Yawn* Russia seems to be launching everyone but their own professional cosmonauts!  :angry:

I'm sorry if this goes "against the grain", but I find that them launching paying customers is "an accomplishment in itself".  That provides the reason d'atre (pardon the French) for a whole lot of activity in space.
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Post by: Suzy on 03/01/2007 01:30 am
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lmike - 24/2/2007  7:58 PM
I'm sorry if this goes "against the grain", but I find that them launching paying customers is "an accomplishment in itself".  That provides the reason d'atre (pardon the French) for a whole lot of activity in space.

"raison d'être" :)

It is rather bad for the morale of the professional cosmonauts, though - some are still waiting for their first flight after 10 years or so, while amateurs get to go up after only a year or so of training! Perhaps the RSA should rename itself the Russian Space Tourist Agency - that is all they seem to be doing now.  :angry:
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Post by: anik on 03/01/2007 05:44 pm
Both South Korean candidates have arrived to Russia on February 27... Yesterday they began three-day medical examination, because they had some minor problems during the first medical examination in January... The Russian Main Medical Commission (GMK) should admit them to preparation to spaceflight on March 6...
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Post by: Danderman on 03/02/2007 03:55 am
Once the ISS 6 person crew capability is in place, there should be 4 Soyuzes sent to ISS per year, giving double the seats to Russian cosmonauts. That should happen in 2009. Hopefully.
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Post by: anik on 03/06/2007 07:32 pm
Two South Korean candidates have successfully passed three-day medical examination at Russian Institute of Medical and Biologic Problems (IMBP)... They can begin preparation to spaceflight at GCTC since March 7...
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Post by: anik on 03/07/2007 02:21 pm
According to http://www.rian.ru/technology/cosmos/20070307/61679503.html (in Russian), two South Korean candidates have began the training at GCTC today... The basic stage of their preparation will begin in April 2007, when they will start the studying systems of Soyuz TMA spacecraft... There are also planned two trainings at the Korea Aerospace Research Institute (KARI) in August and in December 2007 and the week preparation at the Johnson Space Center (JSC) in January 2008...
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Post by: hektor on 03/09/2007 01:21 pm
When are the Malaysians coming to JSC ?
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Post by: tonyq on 04/09/2007 08:45 pm
S. Korea's first astronaut to be selected in August

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/Engnews/20070405/660000000020070405200023E8.html
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Post by: hektor on 04/09/2007 09:33 pm
Any news about the sixth tourist ?
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Post by: Olaf on 04/09/2007 10:06 pm
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hektor - 9/4/2007  4:33 PM

Any news about the sixth tourist ?

Here http://www.herorbit.com/space.phpyou you can find new information, but I don´t know, if they are serious.
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Post by: tonyq on 04/09/2007 10:19 pm
That last link didn't work for me. so here is another one :-

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20070402005608&newsLang=en

I don't think this is to be taken too seriously - almost looks like a belated April Fool to generate interest in their website..........
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Post by: Suzy on 04/10/2007 12:22 am

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tonyq - 10/4/2007  8:19 AM  That last link didn't work for me. so here is another one :-  http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20070402005608&newsLang=en  I don't think this is to be taken too seriously - almost looks like a belated April Fool to generate interest in their website..........

A female gossip site - ewww!  :bleh:
 

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Post by: Suzy on 04/10/2007 12:39 am

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Suzy - 1/3/2007  11:30 AM

It is rather bad for the morale of the professional cosmonauts, though - some are still waiting for their first flight after 10 years or so, while amateurs get to go up after only a year or so of training! Perhaps the RSA should rename itself the Russian Space Tourist Agency - that is all they seem to be doing now.   :angry:

Pertinent article: Russians fear becoming space cabbies, MSNBC.com, 9 April

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Post by: hektor on 04/10/2007 06:39 am
http://www.herorbit.com/space.php

Interesting... could anyone help with reality of this ?
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Post by: anik on 04/10/2007 06:11 pm
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hektor - 10/4/2007  1:33 AM

Any news about the sixth tourist?

Aleksey Krasnov, the head of Department of piloted programs of Roskosmos, has told recently that the name of sixth space tourist will be announced by Space Adventures in the nearest time...

He added that spaceflight of this tourist is now planned not earlier than spring of 2009... He refused to say who will be in the right seat in Soyuz TMA-13 during launch...
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Post by: nathan.moeller on 04/10/2007 07:14 pm
Whatever became of Dice K's chances of flying in space?
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Post by: vp. on 04/11/2007 06:57 am
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...He added that spaceflight of this tourist is now planned not earlier than spring of 2009... He refused to say who will be in the right seat in Soyuz TMA-13 during launch...
to Klaus von Storch, the Chilean cosmonaut ?
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Post by: Christine on 04/11/2007 09:21 am
If the Russians are so afraid of becoming cabbies they should consider not selling their services. Charles Simonyi isn't exactly holding the RSA at gunpoint and forcing them to take his hard earned money.
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Post by: Christine on 04/11/2007 09:25 am
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nathan.moeller - 10/4/2007  2:14 PM
Whatever became of Dice K's chances of flying in space?

Medical issues.
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Post by: hektor on 04/11/2007 06:13 pm
So what about Bill Gates ?
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Post by: Suzy on 04/12/2007 01:56 am
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Christine - 11/4/2007  7:21 PMIf the Russians are so afraid of becoming cabbies they should consider not selling their services. Charles Simonyi isn't exactly holding the RSA at gunpoint and forcing them to take his hard earned money.
It's the (professional) cosmonauts who are concerned, not so much management.
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Post by: tonyq on 06/25/2007 12:33 pm
Monday June 25, 12:18 PM
S. Korea To Pick First Astronaut In September
SEOUL, June 25 Asia Pulse - South Korea will pick its first astronaut in September based on a comprehensive evaluation of two hopefuls undergoing training in Russia, the government said Monday.

The final selection will be determined by aptitude shown during the last stage of training, which began in earnest in March, and ability to conduct experiments in space, the Ministry of Science and Technology said.  

It said the overall scores during the initial selection process that kicked off in April 2006 will also be considered.

The astronaut is to be sent into space in April 2008 on a Russian Soyuz spacecraft, and spend 7-8 days in orbit at the International Space Station.

"The candidate selected will become a member of the primary team, while the other will be kept as the back-up member," said a ministry spokesman.

Ko San, a researcher at the Samsung Advanced Institute of Technology, and Yi So-yeon, a doctoral candidate at the Korea Advanced Institute of Science, were picked from 36,206 applicants on Dec. 25. Both are currently at Russia's Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center.

In addition, the ministry said Russian experts are to provide input on how well Ko and Yi have adapted during the final stage that includes Russian language courses, aerospace engineering and basic space training.

(Yonhap)

http://au.news.yahoo.com/070625/3/13tnx.html

Title: Re: Russia to launch South Korean astronaut in 2008 - Perminov
Post by: hektor on 06/25/2007 06:40 pm
Any news about the third Soyuz TMA-13 passenger ?
Title: RE: Russia to launch South Korean astronaut in 2008 - Perminov
Post by: tonyq on 08/08/2007 11:30 pm
The two Korean candidates are currently back in their own country for a short holiday, followed by training with their own space agency, KARI, on the experimental programme to be flown to ISS.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/08/133_7805.html

Another report indicates that this will be the final evaluated training before the decision on who will be the primary candidate is made. They will be assessed out of 100 as follows :-

30% Original selection process in Korea Oct - Dec 2006
50% Training in Russia Mar - Aug 2007
10% Training on experiments Aug 2007
10% Other factors ie media skills and appeal

They return to Russia to restart training on 26th August. Decision to be announced during first week in September.  

Title: Re: Russia to launch South Korean astronaut in 2008 - Perminov
Post by: hektor on 08/27/2007 12:01 pm
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2007/08/129_9020.html

And now they are back to Russia... still scheduled to have final selection in September.
Title: Re: Russia to launch South Korean astronaut in 2008 - Perminov
Post by: tonyq on 09/02/2007 06:13 pm
The prime and back-up assignments for the Korean seat on Soyuz TMA-12 will be announced on Wednesday 5th September.


http://news.naver.com/news/read.php?mode=LSD&office_id=089&article_id=0000116634§ion_id=102&menu_id=102
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: astropl on 09/05/2007 05:31 am
Quote
tonyq - 2/9/2007  8:13 PM

The prime and back-up assignments for the Korean seat on Soyuz TMA-12 will be announced on Wednesday 5th September.

It's official: Ko San (prime), Yi So-yeon (back-up):

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/techscience/2007/09/05/68/0601000000AEN20070905003600320F.HTML
Title: Soyuz TMA-12 - April 08, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 09/24/2007 01:36 pm
http://kz-today.kz/index.php?uin=1138536794&chapter=1153425937

(translated)

In Baikonur is delivered the carrier rocket "Soyuz-fG", intended for the starting of the manned ship "union TMA-12" in 2008
 
Baikonur. 24 September. "Kazakhstan today". - to the spaceport Baikonur is delivered carrier rocket "Soyuz-fG", intended for the starting of the manned ship "union TMA-12" in 2008, transmits the correspondent of agency with the reference to the information of the press- service of federal space center (FKTS)"Baikonur".

As they reported in the press- service, this morning to Tyura-Tam station arrived railroad car with the rocket "Soyuz-fG", prepared shityu samarskim plant "QSKB- progress".

At present are conducted the procedures of the customs formulation, at end of which the railroad car with the carrier rocket will be transportirovan into the assembly and testing housing of area 112, where the containers with blocks and stages of rocket will be established on the storage.

The prelaunch servicing procedure and assembling of rocket "Soyuz-fG", which is intended for the starting of the manned spacecraft "union TMA-12" with the crew to the international space station, will begin in the beginning of 2008.

Starting RN "Soyuz-fG" with KK "union TMA-12" is planned to produce in the spring of 2008.

 
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 - April 08, 2008
Post by: Real Madrid on 09/29/2007 02:31 pm
this is the crew of soyuz TMA-12

Prime crew/Head crew

Sergei Volkov :Commander - Russia
Oleg Kononenko: Flight Engineer - Russia
Ko San : Research Astronaut - South.Korea

Back up crew

 * Maksim Surayev Commander -  Russia
* Oleg Skripochka Flight Engineer -Russia
 * Yi So-yeon Research Astronaut -  South Korea
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: anik on 09/29/2007 04:26 pm
Quote
Real Madrid - 29/9/2007  6:31 PM

Ko San : Research Astronaut - South Korea

Yi So-yeon : Research Astronaut - South Korea

Their positions are officially naming as Spaceflight Participants, not Research Astronauts...
Title: Re: Russia to launch South Korean astronaut in 2008 - Perminov
Post by: William Graham on 09/30/2007 08:14 am
Quote
hektor - 25/6/2007  7:40 PM

Any news about the third Soyuz TMA-13 passenger ?

Richard Garriott. (Owen Garriott's son).

See http://www.richardinspace.com/
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: hektor on 10/01/2007 02:49 pm
I thought Spaceflight Participants so far were for Space Adventures, I pay my flight myself type of guys... now if a foreign country buys a seat it's a Spaceflight Participant (Malaysia, South Korea, etc) ?
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: anik on 10/01/2007 03:23 pm
Quote
hektor - 1/10/2007  6:49 PM

now if a foreign country buys a seat it's a Spaceflight Participant (Malaysia, South Korea, etc)?

Yes, for now... For Brazil, Malaysia and South Korea... Research Cosmonaut and Spaceflight Participant positions have different levels of training...
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: hektor on 10/26/2007 06:35 am
When are they coming to JSC for the traditional visit, training and PR events ?
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 10/26/2007 06:49 am
Quote
hektor - 26/10/2007  1:35 AM

When are they coming to JSC for the traditional visit, training and PR events ?


I understand from contact with Soyeon Yi that Houston is currently scheduled for January 2008. The Koreans will be at home in Korea for most of December.

Last Monday, 22nd October, both crews visited Energia to inspect the Soyuz TMA-12 ship, which is nearing completion there.
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: SMS on 12/20/2007 04:55 pm
January 15, Tuesday
2 p.m. - Expedition 17/South Korean Spaceflight Participant Crew News Conference - JSC (Public and Media Channels)

source:
NASA TV Schedule for January 2008 (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Breaking.html)
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 12/21/2007 11:38 pm
The two Koreans have flown home tonight and will spend the next few days on leave, before doing more training on the Korean experiment package at KARI. They fly direct to Houston on 11th January, ahead of their training there on the US segment of ISS. They're back in Star City around 20th January, when the major outstanding activity is the Winter Survival Training.

For anyone interested, there is a very recent TV feature on the Koreans recent activities here, courtesy of SBS. It is a kind of 'end of term report'  :-

 http://news.sbs.co.kr/section_news/news_read.jsp?news_id=N1000353100

It is in Korean, but the images are self explanatory. It features Soyeon reviewing the feature on her, which I wrote, and which appears in the January 2008 edition of 'Spaceflight'. This has had quite a bit of coverage in Korean media, as they are intrigued that foreign media are interested in their programme.

Although she's currently still the back-up, don't write-off Soyeon Yi, for this Soyuz/ISS flight - there are still nearly four months to go, and a lot of reasons why things could be changed.


Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 01/12/2008 06:12 am
MEDIA ADVISORY: M08-07

NASA SETS BRIEFING WITH NEXT STATION CREW, SPACEFLIGHT PARTICIPANT

HOUSTON - NASA will hold a media briefing at 1 p.m. CST Tuesday, Jan.
15, with the next resident crew of the International Space Station
and a South Korean spaceflight participant.

The briefing will originate from NASA's Johnson Space Center, Houston,
and be broadcast live on NASA Television. Questions will be taken
from news media at participating NASA sites.

The briefing participants include:
- Expedition 17 Flight Engineer and NASA astronaut Gregory Chamitoff
- Expedition 17 Flight Engineer and NASA astronaut Sandy Magnus
- Expedition 17 Flight Engineer and NASA astronaut Garrett Reisman
- Expedition 17 Commander and Russian cosmonaut Sergei Volkov
- Expedition 17 Flight Engineer and Russian cosmonaut Oleg Kononenko
- South Korean spaceflight participant Ko San, who will fly to the
complex under a commercial agreement with the Russian Federal Space
Agency

Volkov, Kononenko, Reisman, Chamitoff and Magnus will be available for
individual round-robin interviews in person or by phone following the
news conference. There also will be a brief photo opportunity. To
participate in the interviews, news media should contact the Johnson
newsroom at 281-483-5111 no later than 4 p.m. Monday, Jan. 14.

On April 8, Volkov, Kononenko and Ko San will launch to the station
aboard a Russian Soyuz spacecraft. Ko San will return to Earth with
Expedition 16 Commander Peggy Whitson and Flight Engineer Yuri
Malenchenko on April 19 in a Soyuz.

Reisman will fly to the station on the STS-123, which is targeted to
launch in March. Chamitoff will replace Reisman on the station and is
scheduled to launch on the STS-124 mission in April. Magnus will join
the Expedition 17 crew in the fall and replace Chamitoff.

For more information about NASA TV streaming video, downlink and
schedule information, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/ntv

For information about the space station, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/station

For more information about NASA and agency programs, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: SMS on 01/16/2008 11:05 am
Here are some photos from this press conference:
Page ONE (http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-17/preflight/ndxpage2.html)
Page TWO (http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-17/preflight/ndxpage3.html)
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: SMS on 01/16/2008 11:11 am
Here are 3 photos from NASA TV:


Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: TJL on 01/17/2008 02:48 am
Believe it or not, but the last time 3 rookies were launched as a crew was almost 35 years ago on Skylab 4 (Carr Gibson Pogue).
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 01/17/2008 08:08 pm
A friend on the French forum of astronautics just remarked that in 1994, Soyouz TM-19 was manned by two rookies (MOUSSABAÏEV and MALENTCHENKO)...

And there was also the two "taikonauts" of Shenzhou-6...
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: TJL on 01/17/2008 08:20 pm
Nicolas...there have been quite a few 2 person launches in which both crew memberas were flying for the first time, including the ones you listed previously, however 3 person flights with all rookies are quite rare.
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 01/30/2008 03:17 am
January 28, 2008. S.P. Korolev RSC Energia, Korolev, Moscow Region

At Korolev Rocket & Space Corporation Energia the training sessions were held under the training program for the International Space Station Increment – 17-th crew.
 
http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss17/photo_01-28.html
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 02/05/2008 09:31 pm
05.02.2008 "union TMA-12" is delivered to the spaceport Baikonur
   
http://www.roscosmos.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=2852

Is today 5 hour msk to the railway station To tyura-Tam it arrived the train, which delivered in Baikonur the manned spacecraft "union TMA-12" and accessory equipment for it. After conducting of the necessary customs procedures the composition will be converted to intra-spaceportrailroad and transported on the area of 254 spaceports.

After the method of load, the ship will be unloaded and established into the stand in the clean hall of the assembly and testing housing of the area of 254 spaceports. Preparation of ship for the launching will be conducted by the joint calculation of the enterprises Of roskosmosa.
The starting of "union TMA-12" on the carrier rocket "Soyuz-fG" is planned on 8 April, 2008.

During this day from the area of 1 spaceports to S had to leave the cosmonauts of the 17th basic expedition Sergey volkov and Oleg kononenko and the Korean cosmonaut of the 14th expedition of visit San ko. the forthcoming launching will become the 15th flight of the Russian manned ship to S. On 31 October, 2000, to the international station started the first Russian manned ship - "union TM-EY". In 2002 began ship operation "union TMA".

In connection with an increase of the number of crew S in 2009, the number is starting that piloted of ships from Baikonur it will grow. Proportionally it will increase and the number it is starting "progress". In such heavy duty with respect to the guarantee of the manned program Baikonur will work to the end of operation S, which is now planned in 2015.

Meanwhile Roskosmos and and other space agencies consider that the station must work, also, after this period, as the minimum up to 2020, and they attempt to convince of this and their American partners.
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 02/08/2008 07:50 am
07.02.2008 in Baikonur is conducted work on preparation for the tests of "union TMA-12"

http://www.roscosmos.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=2868

   Today at the spaceport Baikonur began works with the manned spacecraft "union TMA-12". Calculations RKK "energy" of the name Of s.P.Koroleva "and FKTS" Baikonur "conducted unloading automatic spacecraft from the railroad car into the stock. After the completion of dynamic operations the specialists of spaceport approached jointing of ground-based communications with the equipment of spacecraft and preparation for conducting of pneumatic tests.

Launching the spacecraft of "union TMA-12" on the carrier rocket "Soyuz-fG" is planned on 8 April, 2008. Aboard the ship on S had to leave the cosmonauts of the 17th basic expedition Sergey volkov and by Oleg kononenko and the Korean cosmonaut of the 14th expedition of visit San ko.

   Russian cosmonauts will work on S during half a year in the composition of the 17th basic crew, and Korean cosmonaut must return to the earth in ten days of flight in the descent ship vehicle "union TMA-11" together with Yuri malenchenko and Peggi Of uitson.
Launching "union TMA-12" must become the 15th flight of the Russian manned ships of a series "Soyuz" to the international station.
 
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 02/24/2008 07:48 am
Soyouz TMA-12 launcher will have a flag of the United Nations !...

http://www.roscosmos.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=2939
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: dsmillman on 03/02/2008 07:52 pm
Do we have times for the launch, docking and landing of this mission?
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 03/02/2008 08:09 pm
From the 'Plan of Russian launches thread', launch is planned for April 8 11:16:14 UTC .

Monday 3rd March is the official photo shoot for the crews. Watch out for those crew images being released in the next few days.
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: on 03/05/2008 11:49 pm
http://www.tsenki.com/NewsDoSeleFed.asp?NEWSID=2972

Calculations RCP continue preparation of a spacecraft


After successfully lead yesterday to the chamber (??? ??.254)
Tests of a piloted spacecraft "Soyuz TMA-12" calculations ??? "Energia" and the enterprises of branch today have started the further checks of systems of a space vehicle.
   Works on preparation of "Soyuz" pass all strictly under the schedule. Start of the next expedition on ??? is planned for April, 8th, 2008
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 03/09/2008 06:23 pm
It appears that Ko San would be replaced by his female backup, Lee So-yun.

http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2008031034368

Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 03/09/2008 06:33 pm
Quote
tonyq - 21/12/2007  6:38 PM


Although she's currently still the back-up, don't write-off Soyeon Yi, for this Soyuz/ISS flight - there are still nearly four months to go, and a lot of reasons why things could be changed.




I hate to say "I told you so"...............back in December.

Big, big congratulations to Soyeon, who actually is now Dr. Soyeon Yi, having had her doctorate conferred, in her absence on 29th February.

It will be confirmed tomorrow in Korea.  :)


Actually, this photo appeared on Reuters on Friday, but no-one else seemed to notice.

 http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080307/ids_photos_wl/r2703068001.jpg/
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: anik on 03/10/2008 06:26 am
SKorea opts for female first astronaut
http://www.spacedaily.com/2006/080310044126.tttfzcsd.html

"South Korea on Monday chose a woman to be its first astronaut in a late change after Russia's space authorities said the man initially selected for next month's mission had breached training rules"

"Ko and Yi have been training in Russia since last year, but officials there have complained Ko took training manuals out of the space training centre without permission in "repeated breaches of training protocol""
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: SMS on 03/10/2008 02:34 pm
Here is the original training back-up crew photo (l-r): Yi So-yeon,  Surayev i Skripochka.
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: terraformer on 03/10/2008 02:41 pm
It's the first time that two women come back from space with a Soyus when Yi Soyeon lands with TMA-11!
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: SMS on 03/11/2008 07:48 pm
Quote
terraformer - 10/3/2008  5:41 PM

It's the first time that two women come back from space with a Soyus when Yi Soyeon lands with TMA-11!

Yes, you are correct!

Here is Yi So-yeon portrait from Star City photo session on Mar 3th, 2008...
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 03/15/2008 12:59 pm
On Monday 17th and Tuesday 18th, both prime and back-up crews undertake final 'complex examinations' on ISS and Soyuz simulators.

The prime crew do ISS on Monday and Soyuz on Tuesday, with the sequence reversed for the back-ups.

Assuming these are successfully negotiated, the assignments will be confirmed on Wednesday, with appropriate formality and ceremony.

Good luck to all those involved.

The status of Ko San seems a little ambiguous, as although he is now widely quoted as being back-up to Yi, after all that has happened and been written, it is difficult to see how the Russians could allow him to fly, in any situation.
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: anik on 03/16/2008 04:36 pm
http://www.federalspace.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=3038

Leak integrity of Soyuz TMA-12 spacecraft in the vacuum chamber has been successfully checked.
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 03/18/2008 12:17 pm
Images from the examination session earlier today, when the new prime crew undertook final tests in the Soyuz TMA simulator
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: SMS on 03/18/2008 07:15 pm
Here are other photos from examination session on Monday!
 :cool:
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: SMS on 03/18/2008 10:02 pm
Here is official prime crew portrait in Sokol suit...

I hope it enjoys you as me  ;)
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: SMS on 03/19/2008 08:56 pm
Here is other photos of Yi So-yeon from Star City & JSC...
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 03/19/2008 10:40 pm
This report from Russia has a different angle on the crew exchange. I guess we'll never know for sure, what really went on !



http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=12494658&PageNum=0
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: anik on 03/21/2008 07:32 pm
http://www.spacenews.ru/spacenews/live/full_news.asp?id=23059

Yesterday Sergey Volkov and Oleg Kononenko with families have departed for five-day preflight rest to sanatorium near Sergiev Posad in Moscow region.

Prime and backup crews of Soyuz TMA-12 spacecraft will depart to Baikonur cosmodrome on March 26th.
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 03/22/2008 08:25 am
21.03.2008 works with the manned spacecraft "union TMA-12" and "Soyuz-fG"

http://www.roscosmos.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=3072

   At the spaceport Baikonur continues the preparation for the starting for space rocket "Soyuz-fG" of the manned spacecraft "union TMA-12".

   Today in the assembly and testing housing of area 112 crews of federal space center "Baikonur", main enterprises also in the baykonurskogo branch of samarskogo "QSKB- progress" carry out assembling the second stage of rocket and electrical testings of the units of rockets, they are prepared for conducting of the pneumatic checkings of first stage of carrier rocket.

In the assembly and testing housing of area 254 calculations RKK "energy" of the name Of s.P.Koroleva and federal space center "Baikonur" perform installation into the descent vehicle of the manned ship of the armchair of cosmonauts "Kazbek".

The launch of space rocket "Soyuz-fG" with the manned spacecraft "union TMA-12" is planned on 8 April, 2008.
 
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Satori on 03/26/2008 11:40 am
The prime and back-up crews of Soyuz TMA-12 have arrived at the Baykonur Cosmodrome today!

Images from Roskosmos page (http://www.roscosmos.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=3101).
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: catfry on 03/26/2008 08:04 pm
I have found some video interviews with So-Yeon Yi on Youtube that are very interesting from a human standpoint (In korean, but with english subtext).
They are very informal and down to earth. Very personal. 'Unpolished' maybe, and apparently before she had spoken much with PR people!. She talks about the selection process in great detail in part 1 .
In also very many details about training (apparently, the 'vomet-comet' is very aptly named), some comparisons between US and russian, and many of her thoughts and worries.
Part 3 has not been posted yet (Or I couldn't find it).
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 03/26/2008 09:14 pm
Just to clarify, those two interviews were made in late 2006, when she was going through the selection process, but before she had made the final two.

Part 3 was filmed in early 2007, after selection but before she went to Russia. The guy who made them hopes to post Part 3 before the launch.
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: catfry on 03/27/2008 06:39 am
Thank you for that info tonyq.
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 03/27/2008 07:15 am
To complement the two videos mentioned above, I've decided make available an article about Soyeon Yi which I wrote, and which was published in "Spaceflight" in December 2007. I appreciate that some forum members will have seen this in the magazine, but others may not.

It's too big to add as an attachment to this message, but if anyone wishes to receive a copy, please e-mail me at:-

[email protected]

Although this feature was largely based around a formal interview which I conducted with Soyeon in October 2007, she and I have had ongoing informal contact by e-mail, phone and MSN, since December 2006, when she was still one of ten final candidates. As a result, I hope that the words and pictures convey something of her experience, to that point, and her sparkling personality.

I'd also mention that the Korean agency, KARI, have been very supportive of my efforts.

At present, I have frequent contact with Soyeon at Baikonur, but as she isn't supposed to have unauthorised media contact I can't report verbatim what she says here. However,  I think I can say that she's very calm and relaxed, enjoying the pre-flight experience, and taking each day, and its challenges, as they come.
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Satori on 03/27/2008 10:20 am
At the Baykonur Cosmodrome continues the preparations for the launch of Soyuz TMA-12 on April 8th.

At the spacecraft processing facility, a poster with mission logo was pasted on the payload fairing of the 11A511U-FG Soyuz-FG launch vehicle.

Images from RKK Energia in here (http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss17/photo_03-26-02.html).
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 03/27/2008 12:12 pm
27.03.2008 "union TMA-12": preparation for the starting continues according to the graph
 
http://www.roscosmos.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=3104

   Segodnya at the spaceport Baikonur continue planned works on launch preparation of space rocket "Soyuz-fG" with the manned spacecraft "union TMA-12".

   S of the early morning in the assembly and testing complex of the area of 254 spaceports of basic and duplicating the crews of the 17th basic and 14th expedition of visit to the international space station conduct training in the manned spacecraft "union TMA-12", go the "fitting" of individual beds, the acquaintance of crews with ship equipment. In the evening PKK "union TMA-12" will be transported to the servicing station of area 31, where ship servicing with fuel tomorrow will begin.

   V also time on the area of 112 spaceports specialists "QSKB- progress" continue preparation RN "Soyuz-fG". Is produced assembling the packet of first and second stage of carrier rocket and preparation for the tests of the system of control, measuring system and pneumo-hydro of system RN.

The start OF RKN "union FG" with PKK "union TMA-12" is planned on 8 April, 2008
 
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 03/27/2008 02:04 pm
MEDIA ADVISORY: M08-066

NASA SETS BRIEFING FOR APRIL SPACE STATION CREW CHANGE

HOUSTON -- NASA will hold a briefing at 1 p.m. CDT Wednesday, April 2,
to preview the activities of the next residents of the International
Space Station and to look back at the accomplishments of the current
station crew. The briefing will originate from NASA's Johnson Space
Center and will be broadcast live on NASA Television. Questions will
be taken from reporters at participating NASA locations.

Conducted on the eve of the docking of the Jules Verne European
Automated Transfer Vehicle to the station, the briefing will focus on
the upcoming Expedition 17 mission. Expedition 17 Commander Sergei
Volkov and Flight Engineer Oleg Kononenko, along with South Korean
Spaceflight Participant So-yeon Yi, will launch April 8 on a Soyuz
spacecraft from Kazakhstan. They will join NASA astronaut Garrett
Reisman, who has been aboard the station since March 12.

The briefing also will review the six-month mission of Expedition 16
Commander Peggy Whitson and Flight Engineer Yuri Malenchenko. Along
with Yi, they will return to Earth April 19 in a Soyuz.

Briefing participants are:

Kirk Shireman, International Space Station Program deputy manager

Heather Rarick, Expedition 17 lead flight director

Holly Ridings, Expedition 16 lead flight director

Julie Robinson, International Space Station program scientist

Dr. Smith Johnston, Expedition 16 lead flight surgeon



For NASA TV downlink, schedule and streaming video information, visit:


http://www.nasa.gov/ntv  
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: catfry on 03/28/2008 11:24 am
These briefings usually don't have neither program scientists nor flight surgeons present. I'm looking forward to if there is any special reason for their presence.
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Satori on 03/28/2008 12:28 pm
It continues the preparations for the launch of Soyuz TMA-12 at the Baykonur Cosmodrome.

From the RKK Energia page (http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss17/photo_03-27.html): "The primary and backup crews of the ISS Expedition 17 and Taxi Mission 14 have entered into their final training phase in the processing facility. Sergey Volkov (Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center, Russia), Oleg Kononenko (S.P.Korolev RSC Energia, Russia), Soyeon Ye (South Korea) have inspected the Soyuz TMA-12 spacecraft, tried on Sokol-KV spacesuits and customized contoured couches, went through the on-board documentation and the launch manifest, checked their radio communications equipment, as well as conducted a training session for scientific experiments."

Also from the RKK Energia page (http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss17/photo_03-27-02.html): "The Technical Management meeting took place, which made a decision to fuel Soyuz TMA-12 vehicle with propellant components and compressed gases."
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 03/29/2008 10:27 am
28.03.2008 at the spaceport Baikonur continues preparation for the starting of space rocket "Soyuz-fG" with the manned spacecraft "union TMA-12

http://www.roscosmos.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=3111

At the spaceport Baikonur continues the preparation for the starting of space rocket "Soyuz-fG" with the manned spacecraft "union TMA-12".

by  Utrom in hotel "cosmonaut" took place the ceremony of the lift of the flags of states, which participate in the starting of "union TMA-12". The lift of flags is considered as the official beginning of official work at the spaceport Baikonur the specialists of the center of training cosmonauts.

Kosmonavty Sergey volkov, Oleg kononenko, Soyon 1i, Maxim surayev, Oleg skripochka, San ko raised the flags of Russia, Kazakhstan and Korea. The representatives been present on the measure wished spaceport to the crew of the ship of the successful fulfillment of space mission.

Posle of the completion of solemn part, took place the traditional photographing of crews with participants in the operations group of the center of training cosmonauts.  
 
 
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 03/31/2008 08:55 am
March 29, 2008, Baikonur launch site, branch office of S.P.Korolev RSC Energia

Soyuz TMA-12 transport manned vehicle fuelled with propellant components and compressed gases was delivered to the Spacecraft Assembly and Testing Facility for final processing operations.


Photos:
http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss17/photo_03-29.html

Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 03/31/2008 08:56 am
March 30, 2008, Baikonur launch site, branch office of S.P.Korolev RSC Energia

Soyuz TMA-12 transport manned vehicle was docked with the transfer compartment in the Spacecraft Assembly and Testing Facility.
 
Photos:
http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss17/photo_03-30.html

Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 04/01/2008 07:00 pm
April 1, 2008, Baikonur launch site, branch office of S.P.Korolev RSC Energia.

 At Baikonur launch site the preparations continue for the launch of manned spacecraft Soyuz TMA-12 under the International Space Station program.

Designers inspection of the Soyuz TMA-12 spacecraft was completed.

Payload shroud roll on to the Soyuz TMA-12 spacecraft was performed.

Photos:
http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss17/photo_04-01.html
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: eeergo on 04/01/2008 09:14 pm
There seem to be three metal braces enshrouding the spacecraft, holding together the DM, SM and PM, I suppose for horizontal loads. Do they become detached once the fairing separates or once the Soyuz rocket is erected some technicians go somehow inside the fairing and remove them?

BTW, it's always great to see another one of these venerable vehicules getting close to launch, thanks for the updates!
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: DarthVader on 04/01/2008 09:18 pm
Quote
eeergo - 1/4/2008  2:14 PM

There seem to be three metal braces enshrouding the spacecraft, holding together the DM, SM and PM, I suppose for horizontal loads. Do they become detached once the fairing separates or once the Soyuz rocket is erected some technicians go somehow inside the fairing and remove them?

To the best of my knowledge, these help with load carrying during the launch and likely separate with the shroud or just after the shroud goes.
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: ksc_houston on 04/02/2008 04:16 pm
I have a question for you, guys. With the eventual docking of ATV tomorrow and with the already docked Soyuz and Progress, Expedition 17's Soyuz where will dock ?
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: anik on 04/02/2008 04:22 pm
Quote
ksc_houston - 2/4/2008  8:16 PM

With the eventual docking of ATV tomorrow and with the already docked Soyuz and Progress, Expedition 17's Soyuz where will dock?

Quote from http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=61&mid=263644#M263644

"April 3 - Jules Verne docking (to Zvezda)
April 7 - Progress M-63 undocking (from Pirs)
April 8 - Soyuz TMA-12 launch [Volkov, Kononenko, Yi So-yeon]
April 10 - Soyuz TMA-12 docking (to Pirs)"
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: anik on 04/03/2008 02:34 pm
April 3, 2008 - Baikonur launch site, branch office of S.P.Korolev RSC Energia
http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss17/photo_04-03.html

"In the assembly/test building primary (Sergey Volkov (Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center, Russia), Oleg Kononenko (S.P.Korolev RSC Energia, Russia), So Yeon Yi (South Korea)) and backup (Maksim Suraev (Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center, Russia), Oleg Skripochka (S.P.Korolev RSC Energia, Russia), San Ko (South Korea)) crews of the Soyuz TMA-12 transportation spacecraft made a check inspection of the spacecraft in the launch configuration and got acquainted with the delivered and returned equipment"
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: anik on 04/04/2008 02:22 pm
April 4, 2008 - Baikonur launch site, branch office of S.P.Korolev RSC Energia
http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss17/photo_04-04.html

"Orbital module of the Soyuz-FG launch vehicle, containing the Soyuz TMA-12 manned spacecraft was transported from the spacecraft processing facility for the general integration with LV"
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: anik on 04/04/2008 03:36 pm
One of new traditions - the planting of trees (elms) in Alley of Cosmonauts in Baikonur before first spaceflight. :)

Images from Roskosmos (http://www.federalspace.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=3160) website.
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: catfry on 04/05/2008 06:56 am
It will take work to keep those trees alive on the kazakh steppe.
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 04/05/2008 11:04 am
The news coverage on Russia Today showed the tree Valentina Tereshkova planted before she was launched back in 1963, and it looked perfectly healthy !!   :)
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 04/05/2008 11:39 am
Strange how Kononenko prefers to wear the blue NASA suits. They look cooler than those shiny russian ones anyway! ;-)
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: catfry on 04/05/2008 11:59 am
I thought the tradition of planting trees was in Star City, and that this was new because it was in Baikonur?
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: anik on 04/05/2008 12:06 pm
Quote
catfry - 5/4/2008  3:59 PM

I thought the tradition of planting trees was in Star City, and that this was new because it was in Baikonur?

No, in the past, elms were planted in Alley of Cosmonauts in Baikonur by cosmonauts after their first spaceflight, now they are doing that before their first spaceflight. That is why I called this as new tradition.
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: catfry on 04/05/2008 01:13 pm
Thank you for clarification anik.
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: anik on 04/05/2008 05:00 pm
The first and second stages of Soyuz-FG rocket were successfully assembled with third stage and ascent unit (with Soyuz TMA-12 spacecraft) today.

According to Novosti kosmonavtiki website in today's evening the decision has been accepted to transport Soyuz-FG (11A511U-FG no. Sh15000-024) rocket from the assembly-testing building no. 112 to the pad no. 5 of the launch complex no. 1 at 01:00 UTC tomorrow.
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: collectSPACE on 04/05/2008 06:01 pm
Quote
anik - 5/4/2008  7:06 AM

No, in the past, elms were planted in Alley of Cosmonauts in Baikonur by cosmonauts after their first spaceflight, now they are doing that before their first spaceflight. That is why I called this as new tradition.

The Soyuz TMA-11 crew also planted their trees pre-flight, per Peggy Whitson's journal.
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: anik on 04/05/2008 06:15 pm
Quote
collectSPACE - 5/4/2008  10:01 PM

The Soyuz TMA-11 crew also planted their trees pre-flight, per Peggy Whitson's journal

Yes, I have forgotten to specify that the tradition of planting of trees before spaceflight has started from Soyuz TMA-11.
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Jester on 04/06/2008 03:23 am
I just got back from the Roll-out, it started at 07:00 local time, hi res pictures on L2
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 04/06/2008 07:08 pm
April 5, 2008, Baikonur launch site, branch office of S.P.Korolev RSC Energia.

 At Baikonur launch site the preparations continue for the launch of manned spacecraft Soyuz TMA-12 under the International Space Station program.
In the LV Integration and Checkout Facility, the basic integration of the Soyuz-FG launch vehicle with the upper composite has been completed.

Photo-report
http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss17/photo_04-05.html


A meeting of the Technical management under the chairmanship of RSC Energia President and General Designer V.A. Lopota and State commission was held. A decision on rollout of the launch vehicle with the Soyuz TMA-12 transport manned spacecraft to the launch facility and its preparation for launch planned for April 8, 2008 was adopted.

Photo-report
http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss17/photo_04-05-02.html


Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 04/06/2008 07:08 pm
April 6, 2008, Baikonur launch site, branch office of S.P.Korolev RSC Energia.

 A rollout of the Soyuz spacecraft from the assembly-test facility to the launch site was provided. The Soyuz-FG launch vehicle with the Soyuz TMA-12 transport spacecraft was erected on the launch pad. Operations under the launch minus two days program began.
The launch of the Soyuz-FG integrated launch vehicle with the Soyuz TMA-12 spacecraft to the ISS Orbital Complex is planned for 08.04.2008 at 15:16 Moscow time.

Photo-report
http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss17/photo_04-06.html


Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Chandonn on 04/06/2008 11:24 pm
I can't find any info on whether this launch will be carried live on NTV.
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: anik on 04/07/2008 01:56 am
Quote
Chandonn - 7/4/2008  3:24 AM

I can't find any info on whether this launch will be carried live on NTV

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Breaking.html

"April 8, Tuesday
6:15 a.m. - ISS Expedition 17/Spaceflight Participant Launch Coverage from Baikonur, Kazakhstan (launch scheduled at 7:16 a.m. ET) - JSC (All Channels)"

NASA TV Coverage Set for Space Station Crew Exchange
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2008/apr/HQ_M08075_TV_Coverage_Station_Crew_Excahnge.html

"NASA Television will broadcast the launch of the next International Space Station crew April 8 and the landing of the current crew April 19"
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 04/07/2008 05:30 am
According to Russia Today TV, the State Commission have approved to prime crew of Volkov, Kononenko and Yi for the flight.
Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Paolo on 04/07/2008 08:57 am
Any news about the Expedition 17 Press Kit ?
Title: RE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 04/07/2008 01:01 pm
April 7, 2008, Baikonur launch site, branch office of S.P.Korolev RSC Energia.

 A meeting of the State commission was held. Director of Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center V.V. Tsibliev reported about the crew readiness for the planned spaceflight. RSC Energia President and General Designer V.A. Lopota reported about readiness of the Soyuz FG/Soyuz TMA-12 rocket-space complex for further prelaunch processing. The State commission approved the prime and backup crews for the Soyuz TMA-12 spacecraft and the ISS-17 and also a decision was adopted to continue preparation of the Soyuz-FG/Soyuz TMA-12 rocket-space complex for fueling and launch at the set time on April 8, 2008, namely at 15 hr. 16 min Moscow time.

The Prime Crew: spacecraft commander, ISS-17 commander – test cosmonaut of the Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center, RF Air Force Lieutenant-Colonel Sergey Alexandrovich Volkov; spacecraft flight engineer, ISS-17 flight engineer – S.P. Korolev RSC Energia test cosmonaut Oleg Dmitrievich Kononenko; spaceflight participant of the ISS visiting crew, South Korea citizen, So Yeon Yi.

Photo-report
http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss17/photo_04-07.html


Title: Re: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: rdale on 04/07/2008 01:03 pm
Quote
Paolo - 7/4/2008  4:57 AM

Any news about the Expedition 17 Press Kit ?

You won't find it in a launch thread - it'll be posted here: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/news/index.html
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Chris Bergin on 04/07/2008 06:37 pm
Moved for live coverage (still half a day away, but obviously a big launch).
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: on 04/08/2008 01:53 am
NASA - International Space Station Section

New Station Crew Prepares For Launch Tuesday

The Progress 28 cargo ship undocked from the International Space Station at 4:50 a.m. EDT Monday and headed into its deorbit and destructive re-entry into the Earth’s atmosphere over the Pacific Ocean. The Progress, which has been attached to the station since February, had been loaded with trash and discards before its departure. The Pirs docking compartment is now open for the arrival Thursday of the Soyuz TMA-12 spacecraft carrying the Expedition 17 crew and a South Korean spaceflight participant.

The Expedition 17 crew continued to make last-minute preparations before Tuesday’s launch to the station. Commander Sergei Volkov, Flight Engineer Oleg Kononenko and spaceflight participant So-yeon Yi are scheduled to launch at 7:16 a.m. EDT Tuesday aboard a Soyuz rocket from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan.

Aboard the station, the Expedition 16 crew members unloaded cargo from the Jules Verne Automated Transfer Vehicle, which arrived last week. In addition to performing regular exercise and maintenance duties, Expedition 16 Commander Peggy Whitson and Flight Engineer Yuri Malenchenko reviewed descent procedures for their return to Earth. Whitson, Malenchenko and spaceflight participant So-yeon Yi are scheduled to leave the station April 19th in Soyuz TMA-11 spacecraft. Flight Engineer Garrett Reisman, now an Expedition 16 crew member, will join Expedition 17.

PHOTO: A view of the Progress 28 cargo ship as it undocked from the International Space Station. Credit: NASA TV

Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: on 04/08/2008 01:56 am
RUSSIA TODAY Video Release

Soyuz crew enjoy old movie before take-off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf4BYXd1Ehs
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: ChrisC on 04/08/2008 02:50 am
This is the movie that they ritually watch before launch:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Sun_of_the_Desert
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066565/
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 04/08/2008 05:23 am
Crew have left the Cosmonaut hotel are on their way to Building 254
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Paolo on 04/08/2008 06:22 am
The Press Kit of Expedition 17:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/expeditions/expedition17/index.html

Paolo
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 04/08/2008 06:33 am
Cosmonauts were delivered to the launch pad !

http://www.kz-today.kz/index.php?lang=rus&uin=1138536794&chapter=1153444511

Go Soyouz !
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 04/08/2008 06:49 am
Guys, before this thread begins to gather pace, I should declare an interest here.
I’ve been communicating very regularly with Soyeon since December 2006, when I picked her out from the final ten candidates and asked her if she’d like to appear in Spaceflight magazine. She agreed, got selected in the final two, three weeks later and the rest is history, or it will be very soon.

When she got to Russia in March 2007, she suggested we communicate via MSN, and so we’ve done that every few days, over the last year. I’ve grown to admire her intellect, skill and courage, all combined with a sparkling personality, and we’ve become good cyber friends.

Ofcourse, I shared her sadness when Ko San got the prime seat in September, and her joy when they were swopped four weeks ago.

So, I do feel a certain apprehension this morning, but not half of what I know she is feeling right now.

She’s had a real rollercoaster over the last year, and especially in the last month. At the end of February she was in a state of despair over not being able to go home to Korea to collect her doctorate, but a week later was in the prime seat.

The timing of that change left her very little time to gather her thoughts and prepare mentally for today. She’d never been to Baikonur before, or seen a launch live, and last Thursday was the first time she’d seen a Soyuz booster. She's found it all a little overwhelming, to say the least.

She’s absolutely thrilled to be flying the mission, can’t wait to get to ISS, but is very nervous about today, so let’s all cross our fingers for Soyeon, in particular, and hope that she finds the peace of mind and inner strength, to enjoy the ride up this morning.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: SiberianTiger on 04/08/2008 06:50 am
Quote
Nicolas PILLET - 8/4/2008  1:33 PM
Cosmonauts were delivered to the launch pad !

Not to the launch pad itself yet, just to the preparatory facility where they are donning their spacesuits.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 04/08/2008 06:54 am
Quote
Nicolas PILLET - 8/4/2008  1:33 AM

Cosmonauts were delivered to the launch pad !

http://www.kz-today.kz/index.php?lang=rus&uin=1138536794&chapter=1153444511

Go Soyouz !


I think you have misread this. They are not due to depart by bus until 8.00am GMT and will board the capsule at 8.46am GMT
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 04/08/2008 06:59 am
Oops! Sorry, the news says effectively that they are in area 254...
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 04/08/2008 07:38 am
According to the schedule, at 7.36GMT crew should now be in their Sokol suits and reporting to the various directors and official delegations. 35minutes is allowed for this activity.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 04/08/2008 07:53 am
Soyeon suited up and looking like she's ready to go. Grabbed from a Korean news site, which is why it focuses on her.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 04/08/2008 08:45 am
According to the schedule, the crew should now be waving final farewells at the pad, and commencing ingress to the Soyuz at 8.46GMT
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 04/08/2008 09:37 am
Looks like my concerns about Soyeon were unwarranted. She looks so relaxed and confident, like she's done this before.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 04/08/2008 09:49 am
At the pad and still smiling............
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Jester on 04/08/2008 09:50 am
I'm off to the pad now, weather is great here, clear skies.
couldnt go sooner due to fueling procedure checks on our spacecraft.
Reporting back later, launch video/pics later on L2 ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: William Graham on 04/08/2008 10:17 am
Webcast has started
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: siegfriedcqb on 04/08/2008 10:20 am
A view from inside
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 10:36 am
All looking good to go..
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 10:39 am
These "arms" will have been retracted per the timeline at the pad.. Will be receiving live shots in a few minutes:
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 10:41 am
Pressure dropped in Sergey Volkov's suit, a broken zipper was the case, but all is nominal now.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 10:44 am
Shots from inside the Russian control center:
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 10:46 am
L-30 minutes.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 10:48 am
Some nice images of what the Soyuz is:
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 10:49 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: William Graham on 04/08/2008 10:57 am
PAO keeps saying that Yi will be the youngest woman ever to fly in space. IIRC, both Sharman and Tereshkova were younger.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 10:57 am
L-20 minutes.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: eeergo on 04/08/2008 11:01 am
Tereshkova and Leonov attending the launch:
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:02 am
At the 15 minute mark, all things are GO right now.
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: eeergo on 04/08/2008 11:03 am
The ISS crew are watching this same NASA TV feed while in orbit... Gerret was enjoying seeing himself in the screen a while ago :)
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: eeergo on 04/08/2008 11:04 am
The webcast seems to be more dynamic and have better angles than before, note it's Roscosmos' in association with RT and not Energia's.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:04 am
A look inside the Soyuz:
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:06 am
L-10 minutes.

"Close and lock your visors for flight."
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Spiff on 04/08/2008 11:09 am
What is the famous 'gravitometer' today. Some kind of red/pink animal?
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: eeergo on 04/08/2008 11:09 am

Quote
Spiff - 8/4/2008  12:09 PM  What is the famous 'gravitometer' today. Some kind of red/pink animal?

Looks like a monkey...? 

Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:10 am
L-5 minutes, all things looking good.

Range is clear, all systems go.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: eeergo on 04/08/2008 11:11 am
All ready for launch, range clear.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:11 am
MCC Russia: "Ready for launch."
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Spiff on 04/08/2008 11:12 am
Quote
eeergo - 8/4/2008 1:09 PM

Quote
Spiff - 8/4/2008 12:09 PM What is the famous 'gravitometer' today. Some kind of red/pink animal?

Looks like a monkey...? 

 Oh yea, i think you're right. I didn't see that as a 'face' :)

Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: eeergo on 04/08/2008 11:13 am

ISS crew watching the launch.

Purge sequence in the engines going on. Nice to hear at last, after so many silent Soyuz broadcasts, what is happening! 

Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:14 am
Booster tanks being pressurized for flight.

All systems GO.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: eeergo on 04/08/2008 11:14 am

Soyeon's parents:

Pressurization of the tanks. 

Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:17 am
LIFTOFF OF EXPEDITION 17!!!
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: NavySpaceFan on 04/08/2008 11:17 am
UNDERWAY!!!!
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:17 am
Pitch and roll in progress.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:18 am
Soyuz hitting Max Q.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:19 am
Strap-on booster sep:
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:20 am
Inside the Soyuz:

"A gentle ride so far."
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:20 am
All things nominal.

T+200 seconds.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:22 am
Second stage separation confirmed.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:22 am
Everything nominal on-board.

"We're fine, feeling good!"
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:23 am
Empty launch pad, Soyuz flying at 13,500 MPH.  Pitch and yaw nominal.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:25 am
Less than a minute of powered flight remaining:
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: eeergo on 04/08/2008 11:26 am
An interesting and cute fact they mentioned is that the form the boosters form when they fall away from the main body of the Soyuz is called the "Korolev cross". Didn't know that.

BTW, Soyeon's mother was a bit... emphatic ;)
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:26 am
Third stage cutoff and separation confirmed!

Congratulations!
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: eeergo on 04/08/2008 11:26 am

Monkey floating! Soyuz TMA-12 with Expedition 17 is in orbit.

Perminov congratulating Sergei. 

Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: janmb on 04/08/2008 11:28 am
Great launch, looking forward to the footage :D
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Chris Bergin on 04/08/2008 11:28 am
Nicely done (great coverage lads!)
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:28 am
Solar arrays have been deployed.

MCC Moscow in control.
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: eeergo on 04/08/2008 11:28 am
Solar arrays and navigational antennas deployed.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 11:32 am
Live coverage from MCC-H ended.  Press conference and replays coming up at 10 AM EDT.

Docking begins at 8:30 AM EDT on Thursday, April 10th.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 04/08/2008 11:38 am
Well, I think Soyeon lived up to Crazy, Sexy and Cool handle, during that ride up................
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Jester on 04/08/2008 11:41 am
Just got back, pics coming :)
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: John44 on 04/08/2008 12:15 pm
Expedition 17 - Soyuz Launch
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3552&Itemid=1
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tva on 04/08/2008 12:37 pm
Did any of you notice the stick the cosmonaut sitting in the midseat using to push buttons ?

Incredeble simpel device, apparently nominal practice in all these years.
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: ChrisC on 04/08/2008 01:22 pm
Quote
eeergo - 8/4/2008  7:26 AM
BTW, Soyeon's mother was a bit... emphatic ;)
That brief shot was quite moving.  She appeared to be screaming at the rocket, pulling her daughter up into orbit.  One can only imagine the emotions she was feeling.

I'm sure you all would agree that watching a launch can be nerve-wracking, as we all have the burden of knowledge of these complex systems and how they can fail.  Now imagine your child's life is at stake.
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: haywoodfloyd on 04/08/2008 01:34 pm
Quote
ChrisC - 8/4/2008  9:22 AM

Quote
eeergo - 8/4/2008  7:26 AM
BTW, Soyeon's mother was a bit... emphatic ;)
That brief shot was quite moving.  She appeared to be screaming at the rocket, pulling her daughter up into orbit.  One can only imagine the emotions she was feeling.

I'm sure you all would agree that watching a launch can be nerve-wracking, as we all have the burden of knowledge of these complex systems and how they can fail.  Now imagine your child's life is at stake.

I agree Chris.
Quite a gut-wrenching experience for a parent.
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: shuttlepilot on 04/08/2008 02:07 pm
Typical scene: her mum is screaming, while her dad is taking photos ;) It must be incredibly hard experience for women to watch your child going into space.
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: TALsite on 04/08/2008 02:47 pm
Quote
eeergo - 8/4/2008  1:26 PM

... the form the boosters form when they fall away from the main body of the Soyuz is called the "Korolev cross". Didn't know that.

I was watching the launch on Russian Today.  They interviewed Yuri Karash and they did a great coverage.

During launch I saw a very relaxed Yi Soyeon, smiling al the time.

For me, the image of the launch was the first stage boosters separation against the blue sky, the “Korolev cross” as DaviD said.  A very beautiful image.
Have any of you a Hi-Res image of  it?

Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: janmb on 04/08/2008 07:33 pm
Quote
tva - 8/4/2008  1:37 PM

Did any of you notice the stick the cosmonaut sitting in the midseat using to push buttons ?

Incredeble simpel device, apparently nominal practice in all these years.

Yes is has been for years (as long as the Soyuz vehicle I presume)
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 04/08/2008 07:50 pm
Success of the 1731st launch of Soyuz
Evry, April 8, 2008

The 1731st flight of a Soyuz launch vehicle was performed Tuesday, April 8, 2008 from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan at 17:16 Baikonur time (13:16 Paris time).

Starsem, Arianespace and their Russian partners report that the Soyuz TMA-12 manned transport spacecraft was accurately placed on the target orbit for another mission to the International Space Station. This was the second Soyuz family mission in 2008.

Last year was marked by three successful Soyuz flights performed under Starsem's responsibility: two launches, which delivered into orbit eight Globalstar satellites for Globalstar, Inc. (scoring a total of 32 Globalstar satellites launched by 8 Soyuz launch vehicles) and one launch with the Radarsat-2 spacecraft for MacDonald Dettwiler and Associates Ltd.

With the introduction of Soyuz at the Guiana Space Center (CSG), this famed Russian medium-class launch vehicle will become an integral part of the European launch vehicle fleet, together with the heavy-lift Ariane 5 and the lightweight Vega. To be offered to the commercial market, the Soyuz in French Guiana is Europe's reference medium-class launch vehicle for governmental and commercial missions.

Starsem is the Soyuz Company, bringing together all key players involved in the production, operation and international commercial marketing of the world's most versatile launch vehicle. Shareholders in Starsem are Arianespace, Astrium, the Russian Federal Space Agency and the Samara Space Center.

The next Soyuz launch will be performed by Starsem on April 27, 2008. It will deliver into orbit the Giove-B satellite for the European Space Agency.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 04/08/2008 07:52 pm
April 8, 2008, Baikonur launch site, branch office of S.P.Korolev RSC Energia.

 The Soyuz-FG integrated launch vehicle with the Soyuz TMA-12 transport manned spacecraft was launched to the International Space Station from the Baikonur cosmodrome at 15:16:39 Moscow time.

The crews of the ISS 17th prime expedition (ISS-17) and 14th visiting expedition (VC-14) are aboard the Russian space vehicle. The vehicle crew includes Sergey Volkov (Russian test cosmonaut from Yu.A. Gagarin CTC, spacecraft commander, ISS-17 commander), Oleg Kononenko (Russian test cosmonaut from S.P. Korolev RSC Energia, spacecraft flight engineer, ISS-17 flight engineer), as well as citizen of South Korea, participant of space flight So Yeon Yi.

Photos:
http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss17/photo_04-08.html

Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jacqmans on 04/08/2008 07:53 pm
More photo's
http://www.roscosmos.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=3174
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: janmb on 04/08/2008 07:59 pm
Suspect Jester does :D Can't wait.

On the (rather bad) NASA TV stream I was watching on my cell phone, it looked like a very clean launch with very good visibility too, so hopefully some good footage ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: eeergo on 04/08/2008 08:59 pm
I have a question for the Russian people reading this...

Today during the webcast I heard something that sounded like "Boosk!", which the commentator translated as "Start" (as in main engine start, I assume) Is this translation correct? I ask because watching the BBC documentaries "Space Race", concerning the historic period with the same name, when Korolev is launching his rockets he says something like "Saziganya!" to say "Ignition", and uses the same "Boosk!" I heard today to refer to the liftoff proper.

Which is correct?
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: ssb on 04/08/2008 09:30 pm
Quote
eeergo - 9/4/2008  12:59 AM
... something that sounded like "Boosk!", which the commentator translated as "Start" (as in main engine start, I assume) Is this translation correct?

Correct, (proper transliteration is 'Pusk'):  http://lingvo.yandex.ru/en?text=%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%81%D0%BA&st_translate=1

Quote
something like "Saziganya!" to say "Ignition", and uses the same "Boosk!" I heard today to refer to the liftoff proper.

Yes, "Zazhiganie" is 'ignition' in this context: http://lingvo.yandex.ru/en?text=%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5&st_translate=1
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: eeergo on 04/08/2008 09:41 pm
Thanks Serge, much appreciated!
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: on 04/08/2008 10:19 pm
Hi-Res Photos?
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/08/2008 10:20 pm
Quote
jancarlobascu - 8/4/2008  6:19 PM

Hi-Res Photos?

Super Hi-Res Images of launch are on L2.
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: on 04/09/2008 03:38 am
NASA - International Space Station Section

Expedition 17 Crew Headed To Station

After Tuesday’s successful launch, the Expedition 17 crew members are headed to their new home aboard the International Space Station. Commander Sergei Volkov, Flight Engineer Oleg Kononenko and spaceflight participant So-yeon Yi launched at 7:16 a.m. EDT in a Soyuz TMA-12 from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. Less than ten minutes later, the spacecraft reached orbit and its antennas and solar arrays were deployed. Expedition 17 will be welcomed by the Expedition 16 crew after docking to the orbiting laboratory, scheduled for Thursday.
Expedition 17 crew members Volkov and Kononenko will begin a six-month stay in space. Spaceflight participant Yi will return to Earth with Expedition 16 crew members Commander Peggy Whitson and Flight Engineer Yuri Malenchenko on April 19.

Whitson and Malenchenko launched to the station Oct. 10. Flight Engineer Garrett Reisman launched to the station on the STS-123 mission of Endeavour March 11. He joined Expedition 16 in progress and will continue his tour with the Expedition 17 crew.

Aboard the station, Whitson, Malenchenko and Reisman took a break from their daily activities to watch the launch of Expedition 17. They also reviewed the flight plan for spaceflight participant So-yeon Yi, familiarizing themselves with the experiments and Earth photography she will be conducting during her nine-day visit on the complex.


Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: on 04/09/2008 03:41 am
Current International Space Station Configuration
(ATV and Soyuz TMA-11)

Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: on 04/09/2008 03:49 am
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=174005

VESTI REPORT OF SUCCESFULL SOYUZ LAUNCH
(Photo and Video)
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Satori on 04/09/2008 01:33 pm
Exact launch time in format 1116:39.XXXUTC?

Thanks!
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: anik on 04/09/2008 02:03 pm
Quote
Satori - 9/4/2008  5:33 PM

Exact launch time in format 1116:39.XXXUTC?

11:16:38.922 UTC
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: edkyle99 on 04/09/2008 07:12 pm
With the Soyuz TMA-12 launch, ISS has now accounted for a full one-third of this year's 15 orbital launch attempts to date.  

 - Ed Kyle
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: The-Hammer on 04/09/2008 08:28 pm
Which is the most correct order for So-Yeon Yi's name?

So-Yeon Yi

or

Yi So-Yeon

?

I've seen it both ways and I seem to recall that Koreans place the family name first but I'm not certain.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Fuji on 04/10/2008 12:04 am
Quote
The-Hammer - 8/4/2008  4:28 PM

Which is the most correct order for So-Yeon Yi's name?

So-Yeon Yi

or

Yi So-Yeon

?

I've seen it both ways and I seem to recall that Koreans place the family name first but I'm not certain.


Japanese news paper report her name Yi So-Yeon.
Family name is Yi.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: jcm on 04/10/2008 02:05 am

What's the TMA-12 callsign?
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Jimbo07 on 04/10/2008 05:06 am
I'm sure this is a dumb question, but why does the Soyuz appear as some sort of olive green color during roll-out, but white at launch?  Is there some sort of blanket that is removed at the site?  Is this just an optical illusion?

Am I just crazy?   ;)
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Jorge on 04/10/2008 05:19 am
Quote
Jimbo07 - 9/4/2008  12:06 AM

I'm sure this is a dumb question, but why does the Soyuz appear as some sort of olive green color during roll-out, but white at launch?  Is there some sort of blanket that is removed at the site?  Is this just an optical illusion?

Am I just crazy?   ;)

The white is frost on the LOX tanks.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: tonyq on 04/10/2008 07:08 am
Quote
The-Hammer - 9/4/2008  3:28 PM

Which is the most correct order for So-Yeon Yi's name?

So-Yeon Yi

or

Yi So-Yeon

?

I've seen it both ways and I seem to recall that Koreans place the family name first but I'm not certain.


She is known to her friends as Soyeon, so this is the equivalent of her christian name in Western terms. Yi is her family name. However custom in Asia is to write the family name first.


Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch - April 8, 2008
Post by: Olaf on 04/10/2008 08:24 am
Quote
jcm - 9/4/2008  9:05 PM


What's the TMA-12 callsign?

The callsign is Eridan.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 04/10/2008 11:08 am
And the second part of this live thread...docking. Due at 9:02 EDT.
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Vacuum.Head on 04/10/2008 11:43 am
Thanks Chris
Found this pic of the young lady in question
http://www.daylife.com/photo/00WZ0jV4m0e0l

Soyeon looks 'at home' already and an inspiration to young people everywhere
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Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: daj24 on 04/10/2008 12:10 pm

NASA TV Schedule for the docking starts at 8:30AM EDT. (Thanks rdale)
 

 

April 10, Thursday 8:30 a.m.

- ISS Expedition 17/Spaceflight Participant Soyuz Docking Coverage (docking scheduled at 9 a.m.)

- JSC (All Channels) 11:30 a.m. - ISS Expedition 17/Spaceflight Participant Hatch Opening Coverage (hatch open scheduled at 11:50 a.m.)

- JSC (All Channels) 2 p.m. - ISS Expedition 17/16/Spaceflight Participant Docking, Hatch Opening and Welcoming Ceremony Video File - JSC (Public and Media Channels)

Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 04/10/2008 12:28 pm
If someone on a decent connection could do the honors...
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:29 pm
Quote
Chris Bergin - 10/4/2008  8:28 AM

If someone on a decent connection could do the honors...

Got ya.  :)
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 04/10/2008 12:30 pm
Quote
Ford Mustang - 10/4/2008  1:29 PM

Quote
Chris Bergin - 10/4/2008  8:28 AM

If someone on a decent connection could do the honors...

Got ya.  :)

Good man :)
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:31 pm
Live coverage started!
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:34 pm
Garret Reisman will become an Expedition 17 crew member once the seat lining swap occurs (Reisman to Soyuz TMA-12, So-yeon Yi to Soyuz TMA-11).
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:35 pm
Soyuz TMA-12 will dock to Pirs.  ATV has been docked to the ISS for exactly one week, today.

Shot from the external forward portion of the Soyuz.  Docking is to occur "straight up" at 8:00 AM CDT.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: tonyq on 04/10/2008 12:36 pm
Interesting that NASA TV have just corrected the wrong information they've been putting out over the last couple of days that Soyeon is the youngest woman in space.

That record is and always has, belonged to Valentina Tereshkova.........and will it think be hers for a long time to come.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:39 pm
Shot from the external ISS, looking for the Soyuz.

Now a shot from inside the ISS, showing the Expedition 16 flight engineer, Garret Reisman.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:41 pm
Soyuz getting close, now the ISS is able to see.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 04/10/2008 12:41 pm
A good view of the ISS. Jules Verne is clearly visible.

Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:43 pm
Soyuz getting close (faster than Shuttle!):
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 04/10/2008 12:43 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:44 pm
Will take three hours (two orbits of the Earth) for Leak Checks, after docking, before hatch opening.

300 meters away.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 04/10/2008 12:46 pm
I wonder why the two sets of PVR have not the same orientation...
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:46 pm
Soyuz now in station keeping for about 5 minutes.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:48 pm
161 meters separating the two spacecraft.  Go to send command for approach.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:49 pm
Final approach initiated.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:50 pm
85 meters and closing:
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:51 pm
53 meters, closing at .24 meters a second.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:52 pm
40 meters away and closing:
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:53 pm
KURS Automated Antenna has retracted as planned:
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 04/10/2008 12:53 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:54 pm
35 meters away, closing in at .2 meters a second:
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 04/10/2008 12:54 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:55 pm
20 meters, closing at .15 meters a second.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:56 pm
Everything nominal.  7 meters.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:57 pm
CONTACT AND CAPTURE OF EXPEDITION 17!
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:57 pm
ISS in free-drift.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 12:58 pm
Docking probe is now retracting.  Hooks and latches are starting to close.

[small]Please keep updates relevant to the topic, and live.  Thanks![/small]
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 01:02 pm
Interface closure underway.  Hatches due to open at 10:50 AM CDT, 11:50 AM EDT.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 01:04 pm
Hooks and latches now driving shut.
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Lawntonlookirs on 04/10/2008 01:05 pm
Thanks for the coverage and updates.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 01:11 pm
ISS now heading back to original orientation to get sun on the Solar Array Wings for power (nominal).
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: pm1823 on 04/10/2008 01:15 pm
It was the fast docking. I can't say that was a real station-keeping on 200m. :)
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Vacuum.Head on 04/10/2008 01:26 pm
This may be off topic <:-) NASA can't speak Russian?
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: John44 on 04/10/2008 01:41 pm
Expedition 17 Spaceflight Participant Soyuz Docking ISS  
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3554&Itemid=2
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: faustod on 04/10/2008 01:42 pm
I would know if the Soyuz, for docking to the Pirs port, approached
the station perpendicular in respect of the orbital traiectory.
If I'm not wrong, in similar cases, the whole MIR did rotate by 90°.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 04/10/2008 01:52 pm
Docking article (everyone's doing the same sort of thing (other journalists) so added a big SARJ update to make it more interesting :) )

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5399
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Lawntonlookirs on 04/10/2008 03:18 pm
View of Souyz docked to the ISS.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 03:20 pm
The Expedition 16 guys are at the hatch of TMA-12.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 03:22 pm
Soyuz TMA-12 will only stay at Pirs for about four weeks, then the Expedition 17 crew will swap to the Zarya docking port.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 03:30 pm
Hatch opening in 11 minutes..

I think it's because of the PAO event time constraints due to KU or something, can't listen to Russian and PAO and Translator at the same time.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 03:38 pm
Hatch opening in work!  A bit early!
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 03:41 pm
Hatches open!  11:40 AM EDT.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 03:42 pm
All Expedition 17 crew members on-board now.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 04/10/2008 03:43 pm
It is me or was Yuri born in space?  He moves quickly and effortlessly.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 03:45 pm
On to the Safety Briefing.
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Lawntonlookirs on 04/10/2008 03:48 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 03:48 pm
MCC-Moscow: Can you guys put the tea out of the picture for the event?  You're gonna have all the tea you want in the next 6 months!

 :laugh:


PAO Event starting soon.
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 03:50 pm
PAO Event start!

So-yeon Yi looks very happy.  :)
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 03:57 pm
PAO Event concluded.

MCC-Moscow: You can have your tea now!  :laugh:
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Lawntonlookirs on 04/10/2008 03:59 pm
Every body on board and looking happy.
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 04/10/2008 04:00 pm
i thought that there would be more coverage during the joint Expedition operations, I mean it is not a construction mission but there is still KU.
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: rdale on 04/10/2008 04:09 pm
They'll have video every day M-F, it runs during the ISS hour 11am EDT / 15Z
Title: RE: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/10/2008 04:26 pm
Live coverage concluded about 15 minutes ago.
Title: Re: LIVE: Soyuz TMA-12 launch (April 8) - Docking (April 10)
Post by: John44 on 04/10/2008 04:32 pm
Expedition 17 Spaceflight Participant Hatch Opening  
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3556&Itemid=2

 Expedition 17-16-Spaceflight Participant Welcoming Ceremony  
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3557&Itemid=2

 Expedition 17 Post-Docking News Conference  
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3555&Itemid=2