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International Space Flight (ESA, Russia, China and others) => Chinese Launchers => Topic started by: Satori on 09/21/2018 04:28 pm
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Launch currently schedule for October 2018.
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Haiyang-2B
From https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/h/hy-2a (https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/h/hy-2a) :
HY-2 is a second generation ocean observation/monitoring satellite series approved by CNSA (China National Space Administration) Beijing in Feb. 2007. The HY-2A mission represents a follow-up of the HY-1A and HY-1B missions.
The overall objective of HY-2 is the measurement of ocean dynamic and environmental parameters in the microwave region (i.e., all weather observations). The requirements call also for the collection of data on marine wind setup (wind vector), marine surface height, and SST (Sea Surface Temperature), along with aero-marine forecasts for the prevention and relief of disaster.
Haiyang-2A's orbit (same source):
Orbit: Near sun-synchronous frozen orbit, altitude = 971 km, inclination of 99.3º, period = 104.45 minutes. Equator crossing time on descending node at 6:00 hours, repeat cycle: two phase (14 days and 168 days).
Will HY-2B complement, or replace, HY-2A?
(same source):
According to WMO, the HY-2A mission is operational in 2016 in its 5th year on orbit.
CNES contributed an instrument to the HY-2A mission.
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Per Chinese rumors there should be a launch out of Taiyuan "relatively soon", with a CASC built payload.
Dunno how long "relatively soon" is.... (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=68407&pid=615468&fromuid=19646)
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Haiyang-2B?
China launch schedule
2018
October - CZ-4B - TSLC, LC9 - HY-2B Haiyang-2B
August 11
From https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/h/hy-2a (https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/h/hy-2a) :
The development of HY-2A, the first of the series of HY-2 series of satellites sponsored by the State Oceanic Administration (SOA), was approved by Chinese authorities on January, 2007. The spacecraft is three-axis stabilized using the CAST968 satellite platform. The spacecraft is being developed by the DFH (Dongfanghong Satellite Corporation Ltd.), a spin-off company of CASC (China Aerospace Science &Technology Corporation), Beijing, China.
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Haiyang-2A launch thread (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=26271.0)
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Is there any international participation in HY-2B's mission?
Is it a repeat of HY-2A's mission and suite of instruments, or are there any improvements?
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Haiyang-2B
From https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/h/hy-2a :
HY-2 is a second generation ocean observation/monitoring satellite series approved by CNSA (China National Space Administration) Beijing in Feb. 2007. The HY-2A mission represents a follow-up of the HY-1A and HY-1B missions.
The overall objective of HY-2 is the measurement of ocean dynamic and environmental parameters in the microwave region (i.e., all weather observations). The requirements call also for the collection of data on marine wind setup (wind vector), marine surface height, and SST (Sea Surface Temperature), along with aero-marine forecasts for the prevention and relief of disaster.
Haiyang-2A's orbit (same source):
Orbit: Near sun-synchronous frozen orbit, altitude = 971 km, inclination of 99.3º, period = 104.45 minutes. Equator crossing time on descending node at 6:00 hours, repeat cycle: two phase (14 days and 168 days).
Will HY-2B complement, or replace HY-2A?
(same source):
According to WMO, the HY-2A mission is operational in 2016 in its 5th year on orbit.
CNES contributed an instrument to the HY-2A mission.
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Per Chinese rumors there should be a launch out of Taiyuan "relatively soon", with a CASC built payload.
Dunno how long "relatively soon" is.... (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=68407&pid=615468&fromuid=19646)
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Haiyang-2B?
China launch schedule
2018
October - CZ-4B - TSLC, LC9 - HY-2B Haiyang-2B
August 11
From https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/h/hy-2a :
The development of HY-2A, the first of the series of HY-2 series of satellites sponsored by the State Oceanic Administration (SOA), was approved by Chinese authorities on January, 2007. The spacecraft is three-axis stabilized using the CAST968 satellite platform. The spacecraft is being developed by the DFH (Dongfanghong Satellite Corporation Ltd.), a spin-off company of CASC (China Aerospace Science &Technology Corporation), Beijing, China.
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Haiyang-2A launch thread (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=26271.0)
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Is there any international participation in HY-2B's mission?
Is it a repeat of HY-2A's mission and suite of instruments, or are there any improvements?
Complementing 2nd Gen and later replacing a 1st Gen.
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Cross-post:
Haiyang-2B possibly to be launched around October 26, according to our friends 9ifly Chinese space forum.
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This insider forum member claims that launch will occur on the morning of October 25 LT (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=10362&pid=618513&fromuid=19646).
Assuming it is using the same orbit as HY-2A, the launch time might even look more like October 24 at ~23:00 UTC.
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Are these NOTAMs related?
A4526/18 - THE SEGMENT TUSLI - KARVI OF ATS RTE W187 CLSD. 0300-0310 0450-0600, 24 OCT 03:00 2018 UNTIL 24 OCT 06:00 2018. CREATED: 23 OCT 14:25 2018
A4527/18 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. W112: QIEMO VOR'QIM'-ADMUX. 2. L888: SADAN-TONAX. 24 OCT 06:10 2018 UNTIL 24 OCT 07:00 2018. CREATED: 23 OCT 16:43 2018
A4523/18 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. Y1: MAGOD - OMBON. 2. Y2: MEPEP - LUVAR. 3. L888: TONAX - LEBAK. 24 OCT 06:15 2018 UNTIL 24 OCT 07:15 2018. CREATED: 23 OCT 14:17 2018
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Are these NOTAMs related?
A4526/18 - THE SEGMENT TUSLI - KARVI OF ATS RTE W187 CLSD. 0300-0310 0450-0600, 24 OCT 03:00 2018 UNTIL 24 OCT 06:00 2018. CREATED: 23 OCT 14:25 2018
A4527/18 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. W112: QIEMO VOR'QIM'-ADMUX. 2. L888: SADAN-TONAX. 24 OCT 06:10 2018 UNTIL 24 OCT 07:00 2018. CREATED: 23 OCT 16:43 2018
A4523/18 - THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1. Y1: MAGOD - OMBON. 2. Y2: MEPEP - LUVAR. 3. L888: TONAX - LEBAK. 24 OCT 06:15 2018 UNTIL 24 OCT 07:15 2018. CREATED: 23 OCT 14:17 2018
I don't think so: the segment TONAX-LEBAK is too far West
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This insider forum member claims that launch will occur on the morning of October 25 LT (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=10362&pid=618513&fromuid=19646).
Assuming it is using the same orbit as HY-2A, the launch time might even look more like October 24 at ~23:00 UTC.
This other member (also an insider source I think) concurs and gives a 22:55 UTC launch time. (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=10362&pid=618897&fromuid=19646)
No air space closure notices that I can see so we might just have to trust their words.....
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There was no air space closure notices this time.
The satellite should be in orbit by now. Confirmation is pending.
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Haiyang-2B
From https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/h/hy-2a :
HY-2 is a second generation ocean observation/monitoring satellite series approved by CNSA (China National Space Administration) Beijing in Feb. 2007. The HY-2A mission represents a follow-up of the HY-1A and HY-1B missions.
The overall objective of HY-2 is the measurement of ocean dynamic and environmental parameters in the microwave region (i.e., all weather observations). The requirements call also for the collection of data on marine wind setup (wind vector), marine surface height, and SST (Sea Surface Temperature), along with aero-marine forecasts for the prevention and relief of disaster.
Haiyang-2A's orbit (same source):
Orbit: Near sun-synchronous frozen orbit, altitude = 971 km, inclination of 99.3º, period = 104.45 minutes. Equator crossing time on descending node at 6:00 hours, repeat cycle: two phase (14 days and 168 days).
Will HY-2B complement, or replace HY-2A?
(same source):
According to WMO, the HY-2A mission is operational in 2016 in its 5th year on orbit.
CNES contributed an instrument to the HY-2A mission.
***
Per Chinese rumors there should be a launch out of Taiyuan "relatively soon", with a CASC built payload.
Dunno how long "relatively soon" is.... (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=68407&pid=615468&fromuid=19646)
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Haiyang-2B?
China launch schedule
2018
October - CZ-4B - TSLC, LC9 - HY-2B Haiyang-2B
August 11
From https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/h/hy-2a :
The development of HY-2A, the first of the series of HY-2 series of satellites sponsored by the State Oceanic Administration (SOA), was approved by Chinese authorities on January, 2007. The spacecraft is three-axis stabilized using the CAST968 satellite platform. The spacecraft is being developed by the DFH (Dongfanghong Satellite Corporation Ltd.), a spin-off company of CASC (China Aerospace Science &Technology Corporation), Beijing, China.
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Haiyang-2A launch thread (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=26271.0)
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Is there any international participation in HY-2B's mission?
Is it a repeat of HY-2A's mission and suite of instruments, or are there any improvements?
Complementing 2nd Gen and later replacing a 1st Gen.
According to the few Chinese articles around HY-2B is in the same configuration as HY-2A launched in 2011 (https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/h/hy-2a). There were some tweaks like new rubidium clocks for the radar altimeters, but there are no major changes.
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From 9ifly! http://bbs.9ifly.cn/thread-10362-4-1.html
"Good morning!" Our country successfully launched the "Ocean Second B" Satellite!
October 25, 2018 6:57, China in the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center with the Long March fourth B launch vehicle, the success of the "Ocean No. Second" Satellite launch, the satellite into the predetermined orbit.
"Ocean Second B" Satellite is a marine dynamic environment detection satellite, will be with the follow-up "Ocean second C" and "Ocean second D" Satellite network to form all-weather, full-time, high-frequency sub-global large-scale marine dynamic environment satellite monitoring system. "Ocean second B" satellite and the Long March fourth B launch vehicle by the Aerospace Technology Group Co., Ltd. Development and production, China satellite launch measurement and control system is responsible for the launch, measurement and control tasks of the organization implementation. This is the No. 288 time flight of the long-range launch vehicle. (photography Zheng fled to the sunny)
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From 9ify! http://bbs.9ifly.cn/thread-10362-4-1.html
"Good morning!" Our country successfully launched the "Ocean Second B" Satellite!
October 25, 2018 6:57, China in the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center with the Long March fourth B launch vehicle, the success of the "Ocean No. Second" Satellite launch, the satellite into the predetermined orbit.
"Ocean Second B" Satellite is a marine dynamic environment detection satellite, will be with the follow-up "Ocean second C" and "Ocean second D" Satellite network to form all-weather, full-time, high-frequency sub-global large-scale marine dynamic environment satellite monitoring system. "Ocean second B" satellite and the Long March fourth B launch vehicle by the Aerospace Technology Group Co., Ltd. Development and production, China satellite launch measurement and control system is responsible for the launch, measurement and control tasks of the organization implementation. This is the No. 288 time flight of the long-range launch vehicle. (photography Zheng fled to the sunny)
Yup, that's an official launch success confirmation with T-0 at 22:57 UTC!
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Banner from 9ifly.
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Launch images from 9ifly.
http://www.9ifly.cn/article-13627-1.html
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Another image.
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Photos and videos collections from Chinese social media:
https://twitter.com/LaunchStuff/status/1055239875820249088
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Rui's article!
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/10/chinese-long-march-4b-lofts-haiyang-2b/
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24 October 2018, 22:57 UTC
25 October 2018, 06:57 local time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=korwF1MINPo
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Live: How have satellites changed our lives? 卫星升空如何改变人的生活
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFpCOtT9b1I
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Launch codename could be "05-62"
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Short launch video with redacted screen information
http://tv.cctv.com/2018/10/25/VIDEcmnXiaktQiOcMRrBpnsp181025.shtml (http://tv.cctv.com/2018/10/25/VIDEcmnXiaktQiOcMRrBpnsp181025.shtml)
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Short launch video with redacted screen information
http://tv.cctv.com/2018/10/25/VIDEcmnXiaktQiOcMRrBpnsp181025.shtml (http://tv.cctv.com/2018/10/25/VIDEcmnXiaktQiOcMRrBpnsp181025.shtml)
in 1080p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVfPBF6_eR8
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China launches HY-2B marine satellite (http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-10/25/c_137556966.htm).
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Short launch video with redacted screen information
http://tv.cctv.com/2018/10/25/VIDEcmnXiaktQiOcMRrBpnsp181025.shtml (http://tv.cctv.com/2018/10/25/VIDEcmnXiaktQiOcMRrBpnsp181025.shtml)
Such a nonsense >:(
No launch time
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2 objects have been cataloged:
2018-081A/43655 in 929 x 943 km x 99.35° (S/C)
2018-081B/43656 in 641 x 940 km x 99.45° (CZ-4B 3rd stage)
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So was this the 100th launch of Shanghai-lead launch vehicle?
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So was this the 100th launch of Shanghai-lead launch vehicle?
Да это 100-й пуск ракета-носителя! :)
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Possible secondary payload, article in Chinese http://www.xinhuanet.com/tech/2018-10/25/c_1123612561.htm
Approximate translation: "AliExpress mini-space station named "Candy Jar" .... with weight of 20 kilograms ... to continue to send a happy signal from space"
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Missile serial number possible Y36?
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Possible secondary payload, article in Chinese http://www.xinhuanet.com/tech/2018-10/25/c_1123612561.htm
Approximate translation: "AliExpress mini-space station named "Candy Jar" .... with weight of 20 kilograms ... to continue to send a happy signal from space"
sohu.com has the same story but says 29 kg. Go figure.
AliExpress is an online retailer that's part of the big AliBaba group. From what I can tell from the articles
its mission is to send annoying advertising messages to shoppers' mobile phones.
Edit: not clear which object it is - there is HY-2B, rocket stage and 3 debris objects. One of the debris
objects may be Candy Can, or it could be attached to the rocket stage, or not yet cataloged
http://www.sohu.com/a/271275616_260616
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One of the debris objects may be Candy Can, or it could be attached to the rocket stage, or not yet cataloged
According to National Natural Science Foundation of China, space junk (the rocket stage) was turned into a "mini space station". http://www.nsfc.gov.cn/publish/portal0/tab446/info74515.htm
Translated with Google: "The final stage of the original launch... could stay in space for more than 10 years and eventually become space junk. Now turning waste into treasure"
"install the power system, measurement and control communication system, navigation and positioning system, control management system and other modules and transform it into a test platform"
It seems the rocket stage is the "Candy Can"
Edit: same story posted on CNSA http://www.cnsa.gov.cn/n6758824/n6759219/c6803465/content.html
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Five objects in earth orbit!
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So was this the 100th launch of Shanghai-lead launch vehicle?
Well, it occured to me that SAST would not include eight FB-1 into their count. Sort of strange.
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Missile serial number possible Y36?
So as per https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46640.msg1885265#msg1885265 it was Y34.
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A bunch of unidentified debris that happened to fall ~20min after T-0 onto a Cambodian village. http://www.freshnewsasia.com/index.php/en/localnews/102853-2018-10-25-05-41-23.html
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A bunch of unidentified debris that happened to fall ~20min after T-0 onto a Cambodian village. http://www.freshnewsasia.com/index.php/en/localnews/102853-2018-10-25-05-41-23.html
Presumably CZ-4B 2nd stage debris (no corresponding NOTAM found over Laos/Cambodia)
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https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/spacechain-completes-the-first-qtum-transaction-in-space-300779743.html
SpaceChain report that one of their blockchain nodes was on board this launch, although they don't specify what satellite it was installed on. They also give the serial number as Y-34.