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STS-318 supporting Discovery as LON, NET (No Earlier Than) Feb 9.
STS-117 NET Feb 22.
This mission is rumoured to be slipping due to ET delay, which could affect the December launch of Discovery on STS-116.
Latest to go in here.
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Chris Bergin - 22/9/2006 7:44 AM
STS-318 supporting Discovery as LON, NET (No Earlier Than) Feb 9.
STS-117 NET Feb 22.
This mission is rumoured to be slipping due to ET delay, which could affect the December launch of Discovery on STS-116.
Latest to go in here.
Chris, any idea on the reasons for the ET delays--problems or just behind schedule?
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The usual tight processing schedule, but I would prefer to speak to MAF and get the latest, so I'll post an update then.
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I know this could be a Shuttle Q and A question, but I would assume this is related. What will be the first few things they'll carry out on Atlantis?
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look at the manifest
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Chris Bergin - 22/9/2006 2:44 PM
STS-318 supporting Discovery as LON, NET (No Earlier Than) Feb 9.
I've been a bit confused about LON missions being stated with a NET date. Wouldn't it be more logical for launch dates of LON missions to be NLT (No Later Than?)
after all, as already being discussed in this thread, if Atlantis' ET is delayed (making the feb 9 date impossible) this will impact on Discovery's launch.
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Spiff - 24/9/2006 6:55 PM
Chris Bergin - 22/9/2006 2:44 PM
STS-318 supporting Discovery as LON, NET (No Earlier Than) Feb 9.
I've been a bit confused about LON missions being stated with a NET date. Wouldn't it be more logical for launch dates of LON missions to be NLT (No Later Than?)
after all, as already being discussed in this thread, if Atlantis' ET is delayed (making the feb 9 date impossible) this will impact on Discovery's launch.
I bet there is a NLT date, but on the manifests they seem to insist on using NET.
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Chris Bergin - 24/9/2006 9:29 PM
I bet there is a NLT date, but on the manifests they seem to insist on using NET.
With good reason. The manifest is intended to give the date that NASA has to "work-to" to get the vehicle ready. For a LON flight, it's much smarter to shoot for the NET date and give yourself some margin rather than shoot for the NLT date and have no margin at all.
The NLT date is fuzzy anyway. The CSCS L-1 Month Duration Report is a good starting point but there are many variables that can change that.
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JRF
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Chris Bergin - 22/9/2006 7:44 AM
STS-318 supporting Discovery as LON, NET (No Earlier Than) Feb 9.
Hey sorry Chris, but I'm confused with the mission designation here. I thought STS-117's LON designation was STS-317 and the standby mission for 117 was STS-318 Endeavour. I just remember someone telling me that they replaced the first "1" in the designation with a "3" for an LON flight on the manifest. Also, I read that the latest LON flight on the manifest is STS-322, which was listed as the STS-122 Discovery mission on standby as a LON flight to support a stranded STS-120 Atlantis crew. Possibly a dumb question but I'm trying to keep up with the manifest. Thanks!
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Jorge - 25/9/2006 5:48 AM
With good reason. The manifest is intended to give the date that NASA has to "work-to" to get the vehicle ready. For a LON flight, it's much smarter to shoot for the NET date and give yourself some margin rather than shoot for the NLT date and have no margin at all.
The NLT date is fuzzy anyway. The CSCS L-1 Month Duration Report is a good starting point but there are many variables that can change that.
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I see your point on the variables and the 'work to', but still, we're talking about a launch on need. I suppose that in official circles both dates are known.
The NET date is driven by readiness of the vehicle, crew, support, etc. (currently mainly driven by ET, but can be anything.)
The NLT date is driven by available consumables once Discovery gets to orbit and varies greatly as you point out.
If the NET date is later than the NLT date, that means no launch for Discovery until NLT date passes NET date. And I'd make damn sure that I have quite a bit of contingency in both dates (Later in NLT, earlier in NET) Which I'm sure they do.
P.S. Sorry for being ignorant: what is the CSCS L-1?
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Spiff - 26/9/2006 11:03 AM
The NLT date is driven by available consumables once Discovery gets to orbit and varies greatly as you point out.
Hypothetically, last week it's February 25th, this week it's February 7th -- the work schedules would be in as much flux as the CSCS duration itself.
What's the advantage of a highly fluctuating schedule over a constant NET date?
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psloss - 26/9/2006 10:37 AM
Spiff - 26/9/2006 11:03 AM
The NLT date is driven by available consumables once Discovery gets to orbit and varies greatly as you point out.
Hypothetically, last week it's February 25th, this week it's February 7th -- the work schedules would be in as much flux as the CSCS duration itself.
What's the advantage of a highly fluctuating schedule over a constant NET date?
Hey Philip, I'll take a crack at this one. Let me know if it helps. A lot of this NET date determination is riding on the progress of ET-124, which we all fear is slipping behind schedule. If it slips too far, the STS-116 mission will be bumped until an acceptable NLT date for a possible STS-317 mission is determined. Again, ET-124 will probably be the biggest driving factor in this equation. The constant NET date is the date they think they can make under current circumstances, with the fluctuation in the schedule being considered. At this time that date remains February 22, but we won't be too surprised if and when that date slips and affects the STS-116 launch date.
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I understand that Orbiters don't get a scrub down because of the thermal tiles and blankets, but do they get any level of cleaning, as I would have thought that dust and all manner of contamination would be on the tiles and blankets from landing and roll back into the OPF? So I'm confused as to whether they do get a clean during turnaround processing.
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The outside doesn't matter wrt to dirt. It isn't cleaned. The only thing done to the outside (the TPS) is waterproofing. This causes some of the discoloration after entry. The crew cabin and payload bay is cleaned every mission.
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It looks like the S3/S4 truss is about to be moved.
EDIT: Well, the truss went for a short ride. One bay to the right :)
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Spiff - 26/9/2006 10:03 AM
Jorge - 25/9/2006 5:48 AM
With good reason. The manifest is intended to give the date that NASA has to "work-to" to get the vehicle ready. For a LON flight, it's much smarter to shoot for the NET date and give yourself some margin rather than shoot for the NLT date and have no margin at all.
The NLT date is fuzzy anyway. The CSCS L-1 Month Duration Report is a good starting point but there are many variables that can change that.
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JRF
I see your point on the variables and the 'work to', but still, we're talking about a launch on need. I suppose that in official circles both dates are known.
The NET date is driven by readiness of the vehicle, crew, support, etc. (currently mainly driven by ET, but can be anything.)
The NLT date is driven by available consumables once Discovery gets to orbit and varies greatly as you point out.
P.S. Sorry for being ignorant: what is the CSCS L-1?
Both dates are known, though as I already said, the NLT date is "fuzzy" because it makes a lot of assumptions, and is therefore not included on the manifest.
CSCS stands for "Contingency Shuttle Crew Support". It would have been called simply "Safe Haven", but that name was already appropriated for an earlier study concerning ISS crews with no CRV/Soyuz capability.
L-1 stands for "Launch minus one month", which is when the last prelaunch CSCS Duration Report is published.
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Ok thanks that makes sense.
So basically this CSCS L-1 month report is the first moment in time where they can predict with any level of certainty the amount of consumables available?
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Photos of the S3/S4 truss being processed for 117:
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=44
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Mission: STS-117 - 21st International Space Station Flight (13A) -
S3/S4 Truss Segment Solar Arrays
Vehicle: Atlantis (OV-104)
Location: Orbiter Processing Facility Bay 1
Launch Date: No earlier than Feb. 22, 2007
Launch Pad: 39B
Crew: Sturckow, Archambault, Reilly, Forrester, Swanson and Olivas
Inclination/Orbit Altitude: 51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles
Following the landing of Atlantis on Sept. 21, technicians towed the
vehicle into the Orbiter Processing Facility to begin preparing it
for its next mission to the International Space Station. Thermal
protection system post-flight inspection is 27 percent complete.
Flight crew equipment removal was completed Monday.
Technicians installed payload bay door strongbacks on Monday in
preparation for the doors to open. On Wednesday, the doors were
opened and the Ku-band antenna was deployed. Nose cap and chin panel
thermography has begun and preparations are under way to begin
thermography on the wing leading edges.
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Does anybody have a clue why they are erecting some scaffolding around the S3/S4 truss?
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Is it to be moved?
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Nope, it was moved there last wednesday.
Picture of move: http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/images/medium/06pd2230-m.jpg
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dutch courage - 29/9/2006 12:21 PM
Does anybody have a clue why they are erecting some scaffolding around the S3/S4 truss?
Can't speek specifically for ISS processing but something like this is typical for access reasons. This would allow you to work on the truss, etc without having to stand/sit on it during parts of processing where collateral damage could occur.
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dutch courage - 29/9/2006 1:21 PM
Does anybody have a clue why they are erecting some scaffolding around the S3/S4 truss?
To get access to the top
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ET-124 update:
ET124-next tank out, still planning on supporting a mid-December delivery. Schedule is showing us about 7-10 days down. Hope to update the status when move the tank to final production location.
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Chris Bergin - 2/10/2006 6:39 PM
ET-124 update:
ET124-next tank out, still planning on supporting a mid-December delivery. Schedule is showing us about 7-10 days down. Hope to update the status when move the tank to final production location.
I read on the headline article that it has to be on-dock at KSC NLT December 11 to support LON STS-317 for 116 rescue. Since the completion target is December 12, what are their intentions as far as getting the tank to KSC in time? It stands to reason, at least in my mind, that the most sensible course of action would be to slow down, do the job right and and bump the 116 launch a bit. I can understand wanting to let the workers off for Christmas, but if they're that intent on getting it off this year, bumping Discovery's flight a week or so to get ET-124 to KSC in good shape wouldn't hurt too much.
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nathan.moeller - 2/10/2006 7:31 PM
I read on the headline article that it has to be on-dock at KSC NLT December 11 to support LON STS-317 for 116 rescue. Since the completion target is December 12, what are their intentions as far as getting the tank to KSC in time? It stands to reason, at least in my mind, that the most sensible course of action would be to slow down, do the job right and and bump the 116 launch a bit. I can understand wanting to let the workers off for Christmas, but if they're that intent on getting it off this year, bumping Discovery's flight a week or so to get ET-124 to KSC in good shape wouldn't hurt too much.
Is that for the previously scheduled launch dates, or for the updated, earlier night launch date schedule?
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MKremer - 3/10/2006 4:04 AM
nathan.moeller - 2/10/2006 7:31 PM
I read on the headline article that it has to be on-dock at KSC NLT December 11 to support LON STS-317 for 116 rescue. Since the completion target is December 12, what are their intentions as far as getting the tank to KSC in time? It stands to reason, at least in my mind, that the most sensible course of action would be to slow down, do the job right and and bump the 116 launch a bit. I can understand wanting to let the workers off for Christmas, but if they're that intent on getting it off this year, bumping Discovery's flight a week or so to get ET-124 to KSC in good shape wouldn't hurt too much.
Is that for the previously scheduled launch dates, or for the updated, earlier night launch date schedule?
It's for the new December 7 launch date.
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nathan.moeller - 2/10/2006 8:31 PM
It stands to reason, at least in my mind, that the most sensible course of action would be to slow down, do the job right and and bump the 116 launch a bit. I can understand wanting to let the workers off for Christmas, but if they're that intent on getting it off this year, bumping Discovery's flight a week or so to get ET-124 to KSC in good shape wouldn't hurt too much.
Unless this push for a launch.. (Got nothing to do with Christmas) is a executive call, and not down at the program management level?... I still think its a show for the press that they are trying to be efficient with tax dollars... but if the ET is really the issue, what actions have been taken to shorten the processing times.. overtime? I see some actions at KSC.. but just wonder if this is the case at MAF..
Got to follow the money.. and moving the launch up as not to delay does the reverse, it could end up with the program finishing on schedule.. in the money game.. you never want to finish any program/project.... hummm, unless you collect more on the next one...
All in all we need to see some constraints removed.. if not, then we have the year end problem... and that could be an easy call to delay.. but based on the last launch we have seen something new... a move to get going. ( a push from above??)
Just another view.. need more proof..
Is this Dec 7 for real? I really hope it is !
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Hey Avron. The December 7 is actually the set launch date. It would be nice to see constraints removed but I wouldn't get my hopes up. I'm not sure what's being done to shorten the processing times (19 year old Architecture student, not a KSC tech). And you're right, the YERO could become an issue. It's one reason why they're shooting for the 7th instead of the 14th. As for Christmas, I did read that some of the upper level KSC management wanted to give workers Christmas Day off. How much that fed into the decision to bump up the launch date one week I'm not sure but I'm willing to bet it wasn't much. Several shuttle missions have been in orbit during Christmas (STS-103 was the last I believe), but I think part of that mentality is that they want Discovery back on the ground before Christmas so KSC can close down. But again, I'm not sure. I read a lot of this information in the NSF article concerning the launch date. Check it out and see if I missed something.
http://nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=4843
Lemme know if it helps!
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nathan.moeller - 3/10/2006 11:41 PM
Hey Avron. The December 7 is actually the set launch date. It would be nice to see constraints removed but I wouldn't get my hopes up. I'm not sure what's being done to shorten the processing times (19 year old Architecture student, not a KSC tech). And you're right, the YERO could become an issue. It's one reason why they're shooting for the 7th instead of the 14th. As for Christmas, I did read that some of the upper level KSC management wanted to give workers Christmas Day off. How much that fed into the decision to bump up the launch date one week I'm not sure but I'm willing to bet it wasn't much. Several shuttle missions have been in orbit during Christmas (STS-103 was the last I believe), but I think part of that mentality is that they want Discovery back on the ground before Christmas so KSC can close down. But again, I'm not sure. I read a lot of this information in the NSF article concerning the launch date. Check it out and see if I missed something.
http://nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=4843
Lemme know if it helps!
STS-103 was the only SHUTTLE that was in orbit over Christmas. One of the Skylab missions was also up over Christmas. ;)
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shuttlefan - 4/10/2006 9:18 AM
STS-103 was the only SHUTTLE that was in orbit over Christmas. One of the Skylab missions was also up over Christmas. ;)
Guess I shoulda done my homework first! Sorry about that. But we can't forget Apollo 8! Any updates on ET-124?
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From L2:
OV-104 (STS-117)
OV-104 is red overall. Completed SSME removal yesterday. Big activity this week is preparation for ball valve cavity drain, which is scheduled to start second shift tomorrow night.
Chin panel removal will pick up today to support nose cap repair, which is scheduled later in the flow.
They will pick up FRCS functional and continue TPS inspection (TPS is 76% complete).
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Looks like they are really moving on with the TPS. 76 percent is great going.
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If the components make it to KSC in time there is a very good chance to make the 7th... KSC folks just seem to make it happen against the odds each time.. ref: KU bolt changeout.. it just happened.. I have no worries there.. its the components I think will be the issue as we close in on the 7th... unless some work has been done to speed up processing of say the ET.. there may be an issue..( I would guess the folks at MAF must be getting some processing efficiencies now on changes post sts-107.)
Again I hear of activity to make it happen at KSC.. but that is not enough proof that this is for real ... need to hear more of a risk mitigation plans elsewhere.. but it sounds great thus far.. lets hope that no cracks etc are found it processing that may put a spanner in the works..
Three STS flight in 6 months... when was the last time that happened?
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Avron - 4/10/2006 11:57 PM
Three STS flight in 6 months... when was the last time that happened?
March-June 2002 with STS-109-111 ;)
What have we heard about the processing progress on ET-124? KSC folks look to be getting putting their own feet to the fire!
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nathan.moeller - 5/10/2006 7:37 AM
What have we heard about the processing progress on ET-124?
You're on L2, so you should be able to see the big memo on ET-124 from yesterday on there.
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Martin FL - 5/10/2006 7:46 AM
You're on L2, so you should be able to see the big memo on ET-124 from yesterday on there.
Sounds like they're picking up the pace! These standup reports are amazing. Thanks Chris!
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So far so good, but there's no contingency days left for any problems that come up in this current OV-103/104 flow, especially with the potential loss of CSCS days with ISS issues.
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Mission: STS-117 - 21st International Space Station Flight (13A) -
S3/S4 Truss Segment Solar Arrays
Vehicle: Atlantis (OV-104)
Location: Orbiter Processing Facility Bay 1
Launch Date: No earlier than Feb. 22, 2007
Launch Pad: 39B
Crew: Sturckow, Archambault, Reilly, Forrester, Swanson and Olivas
Inclination/Orbit Altitude: 51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles
Technicians continue performing post-landing inspections on orbiter
Atlantis and are about 85 percent complete with the review of the
thermal protection system. During inspections, a 0.1-inch diameter
impact was noted on Atlantis' right-hand payload bay door radiator.
The damage has been preliminarily identified as caused by
micrometeoroid orbital debris (MMOD), which passed through the
radiator's face (outer) sheet, interior honeycomb structure and inner
sheet. The MMOD did not impact the payload bay door itself. Ground
operations personnel at Kennedy Space Center will repair the damage
as soon as a plan is developed and approved, while ensuring the site
is protected for analysis by orbital debris experts at Johnson Space
Center.
This week, technicians performed the forward reaction control system
functional test and checkout, with a similar test scheduled for the
orbiter maneuvering system this weekend. On Oct. 1, technicians
removed the three space shuttle main engines from the aft of the
vehicle. Wing leading edge thermography on the reinforced
carbon-carbon panels is complete and the chin panel, located under
the nose cap, has been removed.
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They've been saying 39B in the status lately for 117. Should be changed to A.
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Ben - 6/10/2006 3:17 PM They've been saying 39B in the status lately for 117. Should be changed to A.
Isn't the 39B handover to Constellation taking place on April 1st? 39A should definitely be listed in the status report for 118
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116 is the last B launch for the shuttle.
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Well, in wikipedia some guy put 39 B as well on the STS-117 entry. I could have changed it but I didnt want to start what wikipedians call an "edit war".
Do they need B for STS-125 rescue mission ???
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On the NASA web site the launch pads are still to be determined even for the next Shuttle flight of STS-116.
So where they got that info, beats me.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/structure/iss_manifest.html
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I can get the official pad site when I get back to work on wednesday, unless someone beats me to it
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FWIW, all of the recent documentation published on L2 says this shuttle will use Pad A.
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psloss - 7/10/2006 9:31 PM
FWIW, all of the recent documentation published on L2 says this shuttle will use Pad A.
Yep. Snipet from the full manifest (latest one) on L2:
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Yep.
Originally, Griffin suggested the Hubble backup on the other pad (about a year ago now) but that idea seems to have vaporized. I'm sure as 116 nears NASA will acknowledge it, or at least be asked about it. I guess it isn't a huge deal, but it seems to me that if it is the last B launch, it should get some recognition.
I went to 115 with the assumption, come or not, that it would be the last daytime launch off B and made sure I got some photos unique to that pad. Don't want to regret it later!
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Ben - 6/10/2006 5:48 PM
116 is the last B launch for the shuttle.
I never even thought of that. Sort of an historic launch in that it will be the last Shuttle to fly from B. ;)
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I don't that it will be acknowledge with fan fare. Maybe a blurb or two in press releases. It is more of a story that Constellation work will be starting vs last shuttle flight off of pad b
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be that as it may, it'll be fun to see "A" in action again. seems like even PRE sts-107, B's been the most busy. though technically being the youngest of the pads, it's getting a well need break.
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One screenshot from the hugely indepth PRCB processing latest charts - full presentations are available to download in full on L2:
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spaceshuttle - 8/10/2006 8:06 PM
be that as it may, it'll be fun to see "A" in action again. seems like even PRE sts-107, B's been the most busy. though technically being the youngest of the pads, it's getting a well need break.
To me the farther away from KSC one gets, the less of a difference there is between 39A and 39B. The Pad A launches are closer to some of the viewing sites, and that's definitely a draw...the last launch I saw from the causeway was the only one from Pad A and it was obviously louder.
On TV, it's pretty hard to tell the difference without graphics denoting camera position or a visual point of reference.
BTW, from 2000-2003 there were 10 Pad A launches and 7 from Pad B.
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psloss - 9/10/2006 8:20 AM
spaceshuttle - 8/10/2006 8:06 PM
be that as it may, it'll be fun to see "A" in action again. seems like even PRE sts-107, B's been the most busy. though technically being the youngest of the pads, it's getting a well need break.
To me the farther away from KSC one gets, the less of a difference there is between 39A and 39B. The Pad A launches are closer to some of the viewing sites, and that's definitely a draw...the last launch I saw from the causeway was the only one from Pad A and it was obviously louder.
On TV, it's pretty hard to tell the difference without graphics denoting camera position or a visual point of reference.
BTW, from 2000-2003 there were 10 Pad A launches and 7 from Pad B.
for real? well "A" got all the attention! :P but yeah. the only way i can tell the pad differences is by the "0" on the OTVs, the VAB roof view, the front view, and press site view. the sound difference might make visiting 118 an even bigger treat!
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For grins - 60 launches off pad A and 56 off pad B in the pad histories. That includes Apollo and shuttle. So will all the launches (starting with 117) fly off pad A for the rest of the shuttle program? I know they're looking to shut down pad B and start Ares modifications next year sometime.
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The numbers you just gave are only 116, and they are not right for shuttle either :-)
But here are the numbers:
LC-39
133 launches: 13 Saturn V, 4 Saturn 1B, 116 Shuttle
A: 76………..12 Saturn V, 64 Shuttle (through 107)
B: 57………..one Saturn V, four Saturn 1B, 52 Shuttle (through 115)
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Yes, the plan right now shows all remaining shuttles from 117 to the end off A.
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Released from L2:
OV-104 (STS-117)
Working to January 16th Rollover date
Continue with Power On Testing
Post Flight Inspections continue and are about 85% complete: Picked up about 1,000 discrepancies; Only place left to inspect is up near the pod and are tracking better than OV-103 did at the same time.
OME Ball Valve Drain and APU Catch Bottle Drain Scape operations completed this week
OMS Pod functional continues. Fwd RCS is complete with no issues. Will pick up the aft pod this weekend.
WLE RCC thermography complete and data has been turned over for analysis
Getting ready to work MPS Flowliner Repliset
Prepping for Window 1 - 6 changeout
Chin panel has been removed for the nosecap repair.
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Ben - 10/10/2006 9:55 PM
The numbers you just gave are only 116, and they are not right for shuttle either :-)
But here are the numbers:
LC-39
133 launches: 13 Saturn V, 4 Saturn 1B, 116 Shuttle
A: 76………..12 Saturn V, 64 Shuttle (through 107)
B: 57………..one Saturn V, four Saturn 1B, 52 Shuttle (through 115)
Whoops. I see where I screwed up my math. Yeah I was definitely tired when I added those up so my bad. Thanks for the correction. Is pad A empty right now? I remember going out there in 2004 and they had stored an MLP on there that wasn't used for Columbia. Just wondering if they'll need to do a little pad clearing before February ;)
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nathan.moeller - 11/10/2006 10:15 AM
Is pad A empty right now? I remember going out there in 2004 and they had stored an MLP on there that wasn't used for Columbia. Just wondering if they'll need to do a little pad clearing before February ;)
Hint: that's answered on L2.
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ET-124 making good progress through Cell A at MAF, still a long way behind.
Mission continues to get noted as pushed back to March or April.
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Mission: STS-117 - 21st International Space Station Flight (13A) -
S3/S4 Truss Segment Solar Arrays
Vehicle: Atlantis (OV-104)
Location: Orbiter Processing Facility Bay 1
Launch Date: No earlier than Feb. 22, 2007
Launch Pad: 39B
Crew: Sturckow, Archambault, Reilly, Forrester, Swanson and Olivas
Inclination/Orbit Altitude: 51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles
Technicians continue performing post-landing inspections on orbiter
Atlantis and are nearly finished with the review of the thermal
protection system. The orbiter boom sensor system is scheduled to be
removed from the payload bay on Saturday.
During inspections, a 0.1-inch diameter impact was noted on Atlantis'
right-hand payload bay door radiator. The cause of the damage has
been preliminarily identified as micrometeoroid orbital debris, which
passed through the radiator's face (outer) sheet, interior honeycomb
structure and inner sheet. The debris did not impact the payload bay
door itself. Technicians removed the damaged area and will begin the
repair next week.
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ET-124 moving through closeout well. Still behind and all eyes now on IFR design decesion.
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Copied over from L2 (12/13 Standup Report)
OV-104 (STS-117)/OPF-1
Post flight inspections are about 94% complete and tracking less PRACA than 103 saw.
OMS Pod functional completed last night.
MPS Repliset continues.
Fuel Cell 3 R&R is in work. We have the old unit out and have a nutplate to changeout and will install the new unit on Saturday.
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And ET-124 is due to be shipped third week in December.
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James (Lockheed) - 16/10/2006 9:30 PM
And ET-124 is due to be shipped third week in December.
With the old or new IFR design?
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Wisi - 16/10/2006 2:52 PM
James (Lockheed) - 16/10/2006 9:30 PM
And ET-124 is due to be shipped third week in December.
With the old or new IFR design?
That's the $64 million question! IFR re-design is for ET-124 and should support, but it certainly adds to the flow.
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James (Lockheed) - 16/10/2006 3:19 PM
Wisi - 16/10/2006 2:52 PM
James (Lockheed) - 16/10/2006 9:30 PM
And ET-124 is due to be shipped third week in December.
With the old or new IFR design?
That's the $64 million question! IFR re-design is for ET-124 and should support, but it certainly adds to the flow.
But have they even completed the studies and agreed on a final IFR redesign?
If there's any sort of delay for that, I would imagine -124 would flow with the current IFR, yes?
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MKremer - 16/10/2006 9:32 PM
But have they even completed the studies and agreed on a final IFR redesign?
If there's any sort of delay for that, I would imagine -124 would flow with the current IFR, yes?
Last time I heard anything about the IFRs Hale and Gerst said they had agreed on an "interim" design that would fly on ET-124 or ET-117. They'll review its performance and try to keep it flying with the redesign until a final design comes along seven or eight flights later. It doesn't make much sense to me why they'd keep trying for a final design that would fly maybe five times at the tail end of the program. That point is driven home even more so when you consider the great performance of the current design in flight. But heck...what do I know. Hope this helps.
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That's what I found on CBS News:
"NASA managers are considering a design change for so-called ice-frost ramps on the shuttle's external tank. One flight test option under discussion is to modify the top three ice-frost ramps on the liquid hydrogen section of the tank slated for STS-117."
That's new to me. Looks like they don't have the time to modify all the ramps.
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Wisi - 17/10/2006 2:55 AM
That's new to me. Looks like they don't have the time to modify all the ramps.
Not new at all. There's five presentations on this on L2 from the PRCB two weeks ago which show there's different requirements for the LH2 IFRs and the LOX IFRs.
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Yes, but they were about a week's worth of reading ;) I'm still going back and looking through them, for reference on when they make a decision.
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Does anyone know if the MLP-2 rolloff from pad 39B is still on for tonight?
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DaveS - 18/10/2006 12:57 AM
Does anyone know if the MLP-2 rolloff from pad 39B is still on for tonight?
Crawler on it's way to roll MLP-2 off 39B:
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Some new photos of Atlantis' processing for STS-117, featuring the installation of the OBSS in the payload bay, have been uploaded in KSC Media Archive, like this one:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
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Mission: STS-117 - 21st International Space Station Flight (13A) -
S3/S4 Truss Segment Solar Arrays
Vehicle: Atlantis (OV-104)
Location: Orbiter Processing Facility Bay 1
Launch Date: No earlier than Feb. 22, 2007 (under review)
Launch Pad: 39B
Crew: Sturckow, Archambault, Reilly, Forrester, Swanson and Olivas
Inclination/Orbit Altitude: 51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles
Technicians continue performing post-landing inspections on orbiter
Atlantis and are beginning to prepare the vehicle for its next
flight, STS-117. The orbiter boom sensor system was installed in the
payload bay on Thursday. A single-cell voltage test of the fuel cells
is set to be completed today.
During inspections, a 0.1-inch diameter impact was noted on Atlantis'
right-hand payload bay door radiator. The cause of the damage has
been preliminarily identified as micrometeoroid orbital debris, which
passed through the radiator's outer sheet, interior honeycomb
structure and inner sheet. The debris did not impact the payload bay
door itself. The repair is scheduled to begin today.
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That picture is great. Shows how big the cargo bay really is.
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Selective comments from the full Standup/Integration report on L2:
OV-104 (STS-117)
Rollover moved to February 7th. Have 95 cavities at this point. Expect about 160 cavities. Vendor scheduled to perform chin panel repair this week. Plan to power down probably Thursday to complete ECO sensor wire instrumentation mod. Should stay down about a week, and then finish testing on orbiter.
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ECO's are dirty initials to mention ;)
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Has the STS-117 (LON for STS-116) ET had its ECO sensors replaced in light of the problems on STS-114 and also STS-115?
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FransonUK - 25/10/2006 11:07 PM ECO's are dirty initials to mention ;)
I thought they were called Launch Delay Systems...according to a post-launch briefing for STS-115? :)
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punkboi - 26/10/2006 2:09 PM
FransonUK - 25/10/2006 11:07 PM ECO's are dirty initials to mention ;)
I thought they were called Launch Delay Systems...according to a post-launch briefing for STS-115? :)
I believe our administrator's term for them was "LPDs" - Launch Prevention Devices ;)
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nathan.moeller - 26/10/2006 1:02 PM punkboi - 26/10/2006 2:09 PM FransonUK - 25/10/2006 11:07 PM ECO's are dirty initials to mention ;)
I thought they were called Launch Delay Systems...according to a post-launch briefing for STS-115? :)
I believe our administrator's term for them was "LPDs" - Launch Prevention Devices ;)
Ah- There you go. That sounds even, um, better :)
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STS 117 / OV104 in OPF 1
Power is up.
Power up Friday 0700.
V5D09 OMS preps for manifold drain and thruster removal and replacement in work.
APU preps for manifold drain and transducer removal and replacement in work.
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Slide from Nov 2 PRCB processing latest (taken from L2 presentation)
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ET/SRB Mate, Closeout (RED) ET/SRB Mate on 1/19/06, Red for contingency.
Should this date be 1/19/07 (a year later), Chris?
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dutch courage - 3/11/2006 4:19 PM
ET/SRB Mate, Closeout (RED) ET/SRB Mate on 1/19/06, Red for contingency.
Should this date be 1/19/07 (a year later), Chris?
No wonder it's red ;)
Yes, but NASA made the mistake on the document.
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dutch courage - 3/11/2006 4:19 PM
ET/SRB Mate, Closeout (RED) ET/SRB Mate on 1/19/06, Red for contingency.
Should this date be 1/19/07 (a year later), Chris?
No wonder it's red ;)
Yes, but NASA made the mistake on the document.
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter powered up supporting APU3 transducer R&R
SCAPE operations in progress
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What is SCAPE?
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Andy L - 4/11/2006 11:40 PM
What is SCAPE?
Self-Contained Atmospheric Protection Ensemble
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter powered up supporting APU3 transducer R&R
SCAPE operations in progress
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter system test
Lockbolt R&R in work
Nosecap RCC repair in work
Chin panel fit check
Baseline Y inspections in work
ECO sensor mod is in work
Thrust and APU transducer R&R is complete. SCAPE
WSB checkout and servicing in work
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Lockbolt R&R in work
Nosecap RCC repair in work
Chin panel fit check
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Integrated drag chute ops in work
Payload bay door rigging in work
Power up Tuesday 08:00
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system validation complete
Lock bolt R&R in work
Chin panel fit check in work
Baseline Y inspections in work
WSB checkout and servicing in work
Integrated drag chute installation in work
NH3 servicing preps in work.
Tile operations in work
Fuel cell 1 R&R in work
Thruster R&R preps in work
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Power is up through Sunday 11/12
OMS manifold drain ops in work.
(Unknown) for the hazardous portion 05:00 Saturday
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Hi, Chris!! Have they installed the SSMEs on Atlantis yet and do you know when they plan to begin SRB stacking?
;)
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shuttlefan - 9/11/2006 1:04 AM
Hi, Chris!! Have they installed the SSMEs on Atlantis yet and do you know when they plan to begin SRB stacking?
;)
Hi Shuttlfan!! ;)
No idea, I've lost track due to Shuttle overload. I'll ask and find out (any Atlantis OPF engineers on here are welcome to beat me to it).
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system testing in work
Lock bolt R&R in work
Chin panel fit check complete to date
Baseline Y inspections in work
WSB checkout and servicing in work
Integrated drag chute installation in work
NH3 servicing preps in work
Tile operations in work
Fuel cell 1 R&R in work
Thruster R4R R&R preps in work
Weekend SCAPE
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shuttlefan - 8/11/2006 7:04 PM
Hi, Chris!! Have they installed the SSMEs on Atlantis yet ...
Hi Shuttlefan,
Installation of the SSMEs is planned to take place on December 5th.
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mainengine - 9/11/2006 12:28 PM
shuttlefan - 8/11/2006 7:04 PM
Hi, Chris!! Have they installed the SSMEs on Atlantis yet ...
Hi Shuttlefan,
Installation of the SSMEs is planned to take place on December 5th.
Thanks Mainengine!! :) :)
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Might be slightly later.
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Power is up through Sunday 1st shift
V5DO9 manifold drain and thruster removal and replacement preps in work
Ammonia servicing in work.
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system testing in work
Lock bolt R&R in work
Chin panel fit check in work
Baseline Y inspections in work
WSB checkout and servicing in work
Integrated drag chute installation in work
NH3 servicing preps in work
Tiler operations in work
Fuel cell 1 installation complete
Mates in work
Thruster R&R R4R is complete to date. May continue today.
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Power is up
Power up Wednesday 08:00
V5D09 APU ops in work
Fuel cell # 1 ops in work
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Power is up
V1093 Single cell voltage test call to stations scheduled for 23:30
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter powered up through second
Next power Monday 08:00
Manifold backfill operations in work
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Any reason a crawler is sitting outside the VAB? Is it just parked or is there something going on?
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Any reason a crawler is sitting outside the pad gate? Is it just parked or is there something going on?
EDIT: Sorry about the double post :o
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It always stays outside the of pad until it gets closer to launch
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Jim - 20/11/2006 11:35 AM
It always stays outside the of pad until it gets closer to launch
Good to know :) Thanks Jim.
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Anyone know when SRB stacking begins for 117? :)
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shuttlefan - 20/11/2006 11:37 AM
Anyone know when SRB stacking begins for 117? :)
I heard it's already started.
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system testing in work
Lockbolt R&R in work
Chin panel fit check in work benchwork
Baseline Y inspections in work
WSB checkout and servicing in work
Tile operations in work
Manifold backfill preps in work
Fuel cell single cell voltage test complete
PRSD system in work
MPS Delta P transducer removal preps in work
Star tracker R&R complete
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shuttlefan - 20/11/2006 11:37 AM
Anyone know when SRB stacking begins for 117? :)
I was wrong. SRB stacking for STS-117 is scheduled to begin on December 4th. (More on L2)
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system testing in work
Lockbolt R&R in work
Chin panel fit check in work
Baseline Y inspections in work
Tile operations in work
Manifold backfill in work
SCAPE
MPS Delta P transducer removal in work
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nathan.moeller - 21/11/2006 11:52 AM
shuttlefan - 20/11/2006 11:37 AM
Anyone know when SRB stacking begins for 117? :)
I was wrong. SRB stacking for STS-117 is scheduled to begin on December 4th. (More on L2)
thanks Nathan!! :)
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system testing in work
OV104 scheduled to be powered down mid second shift tonight
Lockbolt R&R in work
Chin panel fit check in work
Baseline Y inspections in work
Tile operations in work
Manifold backfill SCAPE complete
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter powered down
Next power up 1st shift Monday the 27th.
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I believe Atlantis will get her main engines in about a week, about the same time SRB stacking on the MLP is set to begin. Full speed ahead for the Shuttle Program!!
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system testing in work
Lockbolt R&R in work
Chin panel fit check in work
Baseline wire inspections in work
Tile operations in work
Manifold backfill completed
MPS Delta P transducer removal in work
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shuttlefan - 25/11/2006 8:44 PM
I believe Atlantis will get her main engines in about a week, about the same time SRB stacking on the MLP is set to begin. Full speed ahead for the Shuttle Program!!
Dec 5 according to processing schedules.
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mainengine - 27/11/2006 3:47 PM
shuttlefan - 25/11/2006 8:44 PM
I believe Atlantis will get her main engines in about a week, about the same time SRB stacking on the MLP is set to begin. Full speed ahead for the Shuttle Program!!
Dec 5 according to processing schedules.
Hi, mainengine! Do you mean Dec.5th for both SSME installation and start of SRB stacking? ;)
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shuttlefan - 27/11/2006 7:59 PM
mainengine - 27/11/2006 3:47 PM
shuttlefan - 25/11/2006 8:44 PM
I believe Atlantis will get her main engines in about a week, about the same time SRB stacking on the MLP is set to begin. Full speed ahead for the Shuttle Program!!
Dec 5 according to processing schedules.
Hi, mainengine! Do you mean Dec.5th for both SSME installation and start of SRB stacking? ;)
Last I read SRB stacking was scheduled to begin on the 4th of December with the SSME installation starting on the 5th.
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Power is up
Power up Tuesday 08:00
FRCS functional preps in work
Star tracker door ops in work
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nathan.moeller - 27/11/2006 11:17 PM
shuttlefan - 27/11/2006 7:59 PM
mainengine - 27/11/2006 3:47 PM
shuttlefan - 25/11/2006 8:44 PM
I believe Atlantis will get her main engines in about a week, about the same time SRB stacking on the MLP is set to begin. Full speed ahead for the Shuttle Program!!
Dec 5 according to processing schedules.
Hi, mainengine! Do you mean Dec.5th for both SSME installation and start of SRB stacking? ;)
Last I read SRB stacking was scheduled to begin on the 4th of December with the SSME installation starting on the 5th.
thanks Nathan!
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Hi,
Last Shuttle Standup speaks of Main engine installation on Dec 4. Engines are usually installed on two days running I believe. So the'd be ready on Dec 5.
Don't know about srb stacking. sorry.
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system testing in work
Lockbolt R&R in work
Chin panel adjust fit check in work
Baseline Y inspections in work
Tile operations in work
MPS Delta p transducer removal CTD transducer removed
ET door functional checks tile critical path in work
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mainengine - 28/11/2006 1:50 PM
Hi,
Last Shuttle Standup speaks of Main engine installation on Dec 4. Engines are usually installed on two days running I believe. So the'd be ready on Dec 5.
Don't know about srb stacking. sorry.
Nov 27 Standup/Integration report on L2 has:
"OV-104 (STS-117)
SRB stacking planned to start December 4th. "
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Powered up
V1181 FRCS functional checkout scheduled for second shift tonight
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Powered up
V1181 FRCS functional checkout in work
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system testing in work
Lockbolt R&R in work
Chin panel adjust fit check in work
Baseline wire inspections in work
Tile operations in work
ET door functional preps tile critical path in work
OBSS sensor pack IVTs in work
FRCS functional and checkout 2 in work
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter powered up through second
Next power up Thursday 08:00
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system testing in work
Lockbolt R&R in work
Chin panel adjust fit check in work
Baseline wire inspections in work
Tile operations in work
ET door functional preps tile critical paths complete
ET door functional starts today
OBSS Insert pack IVTs in work
FRCS functional and checkout 1 2 in work
APU leak and functional starts today
WCS functional starts today
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter powered up through second
Next power up Friday 08:00
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system testing in work
Lockbolt R&R in work
Chin panel adjust fit check in work
Baseline wire inspections in work
Tile operations in work
ET door functional starts today
OBSS sensor pack IVTS in work
FRCS functional and checkout 1 2 is complete
APU leak and functional in work
WCS functional in work
Integrated hydraulic ops flight control testing complete
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter powered up through second shift
Next power up Saturday 08:00
Ammonia vent evacuation in work through second
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power 1st shift to support APU leak and functional
Chin panel X-ray ops complete
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Powered up through second shift
Panel buildup in work
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter powered down
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Next scheduled vehicle power 1st shift Monday
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Powered down
Next scheduled power up 08:00 Monday
VAB High Bay 1
Left aft booster is due for delivery in the transfer aisle 3rd shift Monday
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Powered up
Power up Tuesday 06:00
SSME installation in work
Left aft booster preps for stacking in the VAB for STS 117 in work.
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Chris Bergin - 5/12/2006 4:18 AM
SSME installation in work
Left aft booster preps for stacking in the VAB for STS 117 in work.
Presumably that's an SSME we can see here - the backlit image makes it hard to see much...
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Powered up
Power up Tuesday 06:00
SSME installation in work
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system testing in work
Lockbolt R&R in work
Wing carry through complete
Mid seal in work
Chin panel blanket buildup in work
Baseline wire inspection in work
Tile operations in work
APU leak & functional is complete to date
SSME installation in work
Elevon rigging in work
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STS 117 / ET SRB / VAB
STS 117 SRB stacking in work
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system testing in work
Lockbolt R&R in work
Chin panel blanket buildup in work
Baseline wire inspection in work
Tile operations in work
APU leak & functional is complete to date
SSME installation in work
Elevon rigging in work
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STS 117 / ET SRB / VAB
STS 117 SRB stacking in work
Left aft booster complete and stacked
Left aft center is in work
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OV-104 (STS-117)
? 86 tile cavities left-47 bonded to date
? Last week’s IPR on left-hand vent door #6-have isolated problem down to a 128-pin connector that had a loose pin in it. This will be repaired, and the IPR will go away.
? Completed ET door functional. Went into jack transport and installed main landing gear tires. Working on tile around the main landing gear doors and completed jack transfer.
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Which crew members would fly the STS-317 mission should it be required?
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Josheyman - 9/12/2006 9:53 AM
Which crew members would fly the STS-317 mission should it be required?
Sturckow, Archambault, Swanson, Reilly (according to document at L2 section)...
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When will Atlantis be stood down from LON requirement?
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Orbiter Obvious - 11/12/2006 12:02 AM
When will Atlantis be stood down from LON requirement?
Need to wait for the MMT on that.. todays scans and tomorrows RPM images will need to be assessed first..
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Yeah, on 115 it was about FD5.
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Powered up
Integrated hydraulic ops in work
VAB High Bay 1
Left forward stacking operations in work
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Chris Bergin - 11/12/2006 9:13 PM
STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Powered up
Integrated hydraulic ops in work
VAB High Bay 1
Left forward stacking operations in work
Hey Chris!! Have you heard whether or not all three SSMEs have been installed on Atlantis? ;)
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Yep. She has her engines :)
STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system testing in work
Chin panel blanket buildup gap filler fabrication in work
Tile operations in work
SSME leak checks complete
SSME MPS integrated checks post SSME installations in work
Elevon rigging in work
Panel M010W testing in work
OME heat shield installation in work
Preps for CEIT in work
Integrated hydraulic operations flight controls complete
Star tracker retest complete
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Chris Bergin - 12/12/2006 2:08 PM
Yep. She has her engines :)
STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Orbiter power system testing in work
Chin panel blanket buildup gap filler fabrication in work
Tile operations in work
SSME leak checks complete
SSME MPS integrated checks post SSME installations in work
Elevon rigging in work
Panel M010W testing in work
OME heat shield installation in work
Preps for CEIT in work
Integrated hydraulic operations flight controls complete
Star tracker retest complete
Thanks Chris!! :)
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Anyone know what day later this month the ET is scheduled to ship from Michoud to KSC? ;)
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Is STS-117 flying with the modified ice ramp?
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Starks - 14/12/2006 2:15 PM
Is STS-117 flying with the modified ice ramp?
No. The modifications to the IFRs has been put back due to the CDR review concluding the current "as is" design is the best config at this time.
It will be reviewed, but for about the next three or four tanks, no modification.
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Chris Bergin - 14/12/2006 4:55 PM
Starks - 14/12/2006 2:15 PM
Is STS-117 flying with the modified ice ramp?
No. The modifications to the IFRs has been put back due to the CDR review concluding the current "as is" design is the best config at this time.
It will be reviewed, but for about the next three or four tanks, no modification.
Is it possible that they will fly the tanks "as is" until end of life of the shuttles?
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Wisi - 14/12/2006 4:44 PM
Chris Bergin - 14/12/2006 4:55 PM
Starks - 14/12/2006 2:15 PM
Is STS-117 flying with the modified ice ramp?
No. The modifications to the IFRs has been put back due to the CDR review concluding the current "as is" design is the best config at this time.
It will be reviewed, but for about the next three or four tanks, no modification.
Is it possible that they will fly the tanks "as is" until end of life of the shuttles?
Possible, but not likely. They are yet to look at adding titanium brackets on some future tanks - possibily in time for STS-125 to Hubble.
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From Kennedy Media Gallery (http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4)...
"In the Space Station Processing Facility, a technician points out elements of the S3/S4 Integrated Truss Segment to STS-117 Mission Specialist James Reilly (right) during Crew Equipment Interface Test (CEIT) activities. A CEIT provides the astronauts opportunities to become familiar with equipment and hardware with which they will be working during their mission"
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Has anyone heard whether the 117 ET is to ship to KSC later this month as scheduled?
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More photos of STS-117's Crew Equipment Interface Test (CEIT) were published at Kennedy Media Gallery (http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4)... :)
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shuttlefan - 16/12/2006 8:55 AM Has anyone heard whether the 117 ET is to ship to KSC later this month as scheduled?
ET-124 was shipped December 19th and is scheduled to arrive on December 24th.
HiRes: http://www.lockheedmartin.com/wms/findPage.do?dsp=fec&ci=18085&rsbci=15260&fti=0&ti=0&sc=400
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Thread title changed to reflect the stand down of LON 317.
Ironically, this was never officially noted, unlike during STS-115 - which came after FD2 imagery was cleared by the inspection team.
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Thanks for that note Chris - I was waiting for the LON317 stand-down and thought I'd missed it.
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Felix - 20/12/2006 9:00 AM
shuttlefan - 16/12/2006 8:55 AM Has anyone heard whether the 117 ET is to ship to KSC later this month as scheduled?
ET-124 was shipped December 19th and is scheduled to arrive on December 24th.
HiRes: http://www.lockheedmartin.com/wms/findPage.do?dsp=fec&ci=18085&rsbci=15260&fti=0&ti=0&sc=400
Thanks Felix!! Happy Holidays!! :) :)
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And Christmas Eve has arrived. Hopefully that barge arrived safe and sound at Canaveral. And I look forward to seeing some new pics of that ET entering the VAB, probably will be posted next week after the holiday?
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Anyone at KSC able to confirm the tank is there?
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Stowbridge - 24/12/2006 4:35 PM
Anyone at KSC able to confirm the tank is there?
Trying to find out.
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Any updates on the tank? Nothing since this morning I see. It's now officially Christmas here in the States! Well...EST and CST at least :)
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nathan.moeller - 25/12/2006 7:11 AM
Any updates on the tank? Nothing since this morning I see. It's now officially Christmas here in the States! Well...EST and CST at least :)
Could it maybe have something to do with the fact that KSC is shutdown for the holidays? Heck, even the OTV cameras have been shutdown until Jan. 2: http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/chan5large.jpg
So I wouldn't expect any updates until about then.
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USA, Boeing, LM, ULA and others are off until the 1/2/07
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I'm sure no news is good news. If something drastic would have ocurred to prevent the tank from arriving, we'd have heard about it by now. ;)
Merry Christmas everyone!!!
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Sounds good. We'll see ya in '07 KSC! Merry Christmas guys. Thanks for the news.
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Missed this on our own L2 Standup Integration reports on the 18th:
"On ET-124 transport, the barge and tug are at MAF. The tug company does not work on Christmas, which would put the tug in the turn basin on December 27th. "
So it sounds like they'll park the tank on dock at KSC and off load it when the workers come back to work.
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Thanks for that update Chris. I missed it as well. So will they just leave the barge sitting there until the KSC work force comes back?
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Thought I'd post a payload layout from the baseline presentation (two of them, 200 pages) on L2:
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That is one jam-packed payload bay.
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It's almost identical to the payload-bay config of STS-115. I understand OBSS, ODS, etc. but what are RSC and SPDU? (SPDU I'm sure is ?? Docking Unit but lemme know for sure)
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nathan.moeller - 27/12/2006 6:21 PM It's almost identical to the payload-bay config of STS-115. I understand OBSS, ODS, etc. but what are RSC and SPDU? (SPDU I'm sure is ?? Docking Unit but lemme know for sure)
According to the STS-116 Press Kit RSC is RMS Sideview Camera - so I assume it will be the same for 117. SPDU is Shuttle Power Distribution Unit as listed in the Acronyms on this site.
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lsullivan411 - 28/12/2006 1:53 AM
nathan.moeller - 27/12/2006 6:21 PM It's almost identical to the payload-bay config of STS-115. I understand OBSS, ODS, etc. but what are RSC and SPDU? (SPDU I'm sure is ?? Docking Unit but lemme know for sure)
According to the STS-116 Press Kit RSC is RMS Sideview Camera - so I assume it will be the same for 117. SPDU is Shuttle Power Distribution Unit as listed in the Acronyms on this site.
for they who don't konw about the acronym list: This list can be found here, and there is also a feature to enable small popup-windows to come up when pointing on an acronym. I've had it switched on for some time now, its a very nice feature!
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ET-124 is confirmed as on dock and will move to the checkout cell in the VAB next week.
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Chris Bergin - 29/12/2006 1:07 PM
ET-124 is confirmed as on dock and will move to the checkout cell in the VAB next week.
Chris, for what its worth, according to the KSC employee status line as of 1200 hours on Saturday, December 30, "ET-124 lift and securing in VAB High Bay 2 was completed yesterday" as in Friday, December 29.
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With launch set for 6:20am Eastern Time on March 16th, will it be considered a night launch. For those of you down at KSC will there be any light down there whatsoever at that time? ;)
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shuttlefan - 30/12/2006 5:47 PM With launch set for 6:20am Eastern Time on March 16th, will it be considered a night launch. For those of you down at KSC will there be any light down there whatsoever at that time? ;)
Because of the earlier changing to DST this year, sunrise on March 16th in the KSC area should be around 7:15AM - if that is the case, it would be considered a night launch.
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collectspace - 30/12/2006 10:12 PM
Chris Bergin - 29/12/2006 1:07 PM
ET-124 is confirmed as on dock and will move to the checkout cell in the VAB next week.
Chris, for what its worth, according to the KSC employee status line as of 1200 hours on Saturday, December 30, "ET-124 lift and securing in VAB High Bay 2 was completed yesterday" as in Friday, December 29.
Ah cool. Thanks.
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lsullivan411 - 30/12/2006 6:01 PM
shuttlefan - 30/12/2006 5:47 PM With launch set for 6:20am Eastern Time on March 16th, will it be considered a night launch. For those of you down at KSC will there be any light down there whatsoever at that time? ;)
Because of the earlier changing to DST this year, sunrise on March 16th in the KSC area should be around 7:15AM - if that is the case, it would be considered a night launch.
There's a nice launch window chart in one of the STS-117 documents on L2. It's dated from early August, so the numbers are probably different now, but on that chart the planar window open line crossed the KSC sunrise line a few days before the 16th.
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psloss - 30/12/2006 11:36 PM lsullivan411 - 30/12/2006 6:01 PM shuttlefan - 30/12/2006 5:47 PM With launch set for 6:20am Eastern Time on March 16th, will it be considered a night launch. For those of you down at KSC will there be any light down there whatsoever at that time? ;)
Because of the earlier changing to DST this year, sunrise on March 16th in the KSC area should be around 7:15AM - if that is the case, it would be considered a night launch.
There's a nice launch window chart in one of the STS-117 documents on L2. It's dated from early August, so the numbers are probably different now, but on that chart the planar window open line crossed the KSC sunrise line a few days before the 16th.
That would make sense - we actually change the clocks one hour ahead on March 11th. I'll have to go find that chart, haven't seen it yet.
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shuttlefan - 30/12/2006 5:47 PM
With launch set for 6:20am Eastern Time on March 16th, will it be considered a night launch. For those of you down at KSC will there be any light down there whatsoever at that time? ;)
Sun and Moon Data for One Day
The following information is provided for Cape Canaveral, Brevard County, Florida (longitude W80.6, latitude N28.4):
Friday
16 March 2007 Eastern Daylight Time
SUN
Begin civil twilight 7:08 a.m.
Sunrise 7:31 a.m.
Sun transit 1:31 p.m.
Sunset 7:31 p.m.
End civil twilight 7:55 p.m.
does this help?
cheers,
Larry
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Rocket Nut - 31/12/2006 5:14 AM
shuttlefan - 30/12/2006 5:47 PM
With launch set for 6:20am Eastern Time on March 16th, will it be considered a night launch. For those of you down at KSC will there be any light down there whatsoever at that time? ;)
Sun and Moon Data for One Day
The following information is provided for Cape Canaveral, Brevard County, Florida (longitude W80.6, latitude N28.4):
Friday
16 March 2007 Eastern Daylight Time
SUN
Begin civil twilight 7:08 a.m.
Sunrise 7:31 a.m.
Sun transit 1:31 p.m.
Sunset 7:31 p.m.
End civil twilight 7:55 p.m.
does this help?
cheers,
Larry
Thank-you for the info.!!
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lsullivan411 - 30/12/2006 11:59 PM
That would make sense - we actually change the clocks one hour ahead on March 11th. I'll have to go find that chart, haven't seen it yet.
Yeah, it's also nice because the chart has a GMT axis, which doesn't bounce around. The change in "springing forward" coming up here in the U.S. is probably still relatively obscure. There is a local time line, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's off by an hour one way or another.
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Excellent! 6:20am launch EST sounds a bit more of a UK friendly timing :)
No need to switch to a night shift...
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Celebrimbor - 1/1/2007 12:00 PM
Excellent! 6:20am launch EST sounds a bit more of a UK friendly timing :)
No need to switch to a night shift...
Don't forget, you have to be around here about 9pm the previous night and stay up all the way through to launch ;)
Otherwise it'll be "We can see you, we can see you, we can see you sneaking out..." ;)
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Get a week off work and fly out there, Virgin have a deal on at the mo its only 290 quid return. Im definetly going to get to a launch this year whatever it takes
Ian
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Does anyone know whether or not the SRBs are fully stacked for STS-117 yet?
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shuttlefan - 2/1/2007 5:06 PM
Does anyone know whether or not the SRBs are fully stacked for STS-117 yet?
This is from two weeks ago:
"SRB (NASA/MSFC)
The last forward segment transfer for the STS-117 BI 129 RH is planned on Tuesday. That will complete the BI 129 pack"
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Thanks for the update Chris. Good work on the article (since we're in the Atlantis thread). Will you let us know if they give a reason for the swap? Lucky girl. And we haven't gotten to go once ;)
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I read at nasawatch in this link http://www.opm.gov/news/president-george-w-bush-to-close-federal-offices-in-tribute-to-former-president-gerald-r-ford,1130.aspx
that due to ex-president Gerald Ford demise, all US national institutions were to be closed on Jan 2. And, seeing that KSC's video feeds didn't come up yesterday, I suppose the SRB transfer is due for today.
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What Chris wrote is apparently from 2 weeks ago, as he notes in his post. ;)
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Actually, as of today, this is the status of the Booster Integration report. As you can see (sorry about the crappy screenshot from the powerpoint - on L2) they've very very very nearly finished it off :)
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I have made a clearer screenshot from part of presentation on L2
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Chris Bergin - 3/1/2007 10:12 AM
Actually, as of today, this is the status of the Booster Integration report. As you can see (sorry about the crappy screenshot from the powerpoint - on L2) they've very very very nearly finished it off :)
Chris is there a similar Booster Integration report issued for today Jan.4th, for example a screenshot that you can post similar to yesterday's? ;)
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shuttlefan - 4/1/2007 11:28 PM
Chris Bergin - 3/1/2007 10:12 AM
Actually, as of today, this is the status of the Booster Integration report. As you can see (sorry about the crappy screenshot from the powerpoint - on L2) they've very very very nearly finished it off :)
Chris is there a similar Booster Integration report issued for today Jan.4th, for example a screenshot that you can post similar to yesterday's? ;)
Sure...
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Chris Bergin - 4/1/2007 7:23 PM
shuttlefan - 4/1/2007 11:28 PM
Chris Bergin - 3/1/2007 10:12 AM
Actually, as of today, this is the status of the Booster Integration report. As you can see (sorry about the crappy screenshot from the powerpoint - on L2) they've very very very nearly finished it off :)
Chris is there a similar Booster Integration report issued for today Jan.4th, for example a screenshot that you can post similar to yesterday's? ;)
Sure...
Thanks so much, Chris!!! :)
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Mission: STS-117 - 21st International Space Station Flight (13A) -
S3/S4 Truss Segment Solar Arrays
Vehicle: Atlantis (OV-104)
Location: Orbiter Processing Facility Bay 1
Launch Date: No earlier than March 16, 2007
Launch Pad: 39A
Crew: Sturckow, Archambault, Reilly, Swanson, Forrester and Olivas
Inclination/Orbit Altitude: 51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles
Technicians powered down orbiter Atlantis in Orbiter Processing
Facility bay 1 prior to the holidays. Over the holiday period,
thermal protection system waterproofing was completed. Final system
testing and processing continues in preparation for the vehicle's
roll over to the Vehicle Assembly Building, scheduled for Feb. 7.
The external tank scheduled to fly with Atlantis, designated ET-124,
arrived at Kennedy Space Center from the Michoud Assembly Facility in
New Orleans prior to the holidays. On Dec. 28, the barge brought the
tank to the turn basin in the Launch Complex 39 area, and the tank
was offloaded into the Vehicle Assembly Building. The next day, the
tank was lifted into the checkout cell for final processing prior to
being mated to the solid rocket boosters in high bay 1, scheduled for
Jan. 19.
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shuttlefan - 4/1/2007 8:45 PM
Chris Bergin - 4/1/2007 7:23 PM
shuttlefan - 4/1/2007 11:28 PM
Chris Bergin - 3/1/2007 10:12 AM
Actually, as of today, this is the status of the Booster Integration report. As you can see (sorry about the crappy screenshot from the powerpoint - on L2) they've very very very nearly finished it off :)
Chris is there a similar Booster Integration report issued for today Jan.4th, for example a screenshot that you can post similar to yesterday's? ;)
Sure...
Chris, if you don't mind, can we once again see the screenshot from today's Booster Integration report? It will be much-appreciated!!
Thanks so much, Chris!!! :)
:)
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Images of stacking of the solid rocket boosters (SRB) for STS-117 mission from Kennedy Media Gallery (http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4)... :)
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Good to see them stacked and ready. Thanks Anik. Do we have a date for ET mate? If I remember correctly Atlantis' rolloever is set for February 2.
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nathan.moeller - 5/1/2007 4:31 PM
Good to see them stacked and ready. Thanks Anik. Do we have a date for ET mate? If I remember correctly Atlantis' rolloever is set for February 2.
Nathan, ET/SRB mate is targetted for 1/19/07. I believe rollover is set for Feb. 7th, unless that has indeed changed to the 2nd. (?) ;)Maybe Chris can shed some light on this.
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shuttlefan - 5/1/2007 11:00 PM
nathan.moeller - 5/1/2007 4:31 PM
Good to see them stacked and ready. Thanks Anik. Do we have a date for ET mate? If I remember correctly Atlantis' rolloever is set for February 2.
Nathan, ET/SRB mate is targetted for 1/19/07. I believe rollover is set for Feb. 7th, unless that has indeed changed to the 2nd. (?) ;)Maybe Chris can shed some light on this.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=4983
"Atlantis is due to be stacked with ET-124 and her SRBs (Booster Integration - BI-129, Reusable Solid Rocket Motors - RSRM-96) on February 2, according to ATK."
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I was wondering how many days this launch window extends for?
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Alex - 6/1/2007 7:11 AM
I was wondering how many days this launch window extends for?
11 days plus a few if needed, I believe.
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Oh ok thanks. Im thinking of heading over from Australia for this launch. I will have 5 days in Orlando starting on the 15th of March so i hope it does not get scrubbed too many times. And i was wondering does anyone have any tips?
Like accommodation, Transport stuff like that...
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Welcome to the site Alex (and well done on the Ashes *grumble*) ;)
There's a few threads from previous launches that cover reccomendations for going to a launch, so when I get a chance I'll start a new thread for 117 and link up the previous, so as to get some decent level of info for this.
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Thanks for the Welcome Chris im looking forward to seeing the thread.
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Moved from the extensive Jan 5 report on L2:
OV-104 (STS-117) OPF-1
OV-105 FRCS bushings found to not be seated properly on the attach points; OV-104 may have the same issue. Data from attach point gap dimensions before and after final torque on 104 will be evaluated by engineering again to determine if any rework will be required; results are expected mid-next week. TPS rework will be an issue if inspections are required.
Forward compartment closeout and hatch operations continue.
Chin panel carrier panel installation continues. Picked up new PR FWD-4-28-6471 15 O/T step, gap and recession conditions exist at chin panel/nose cap interface
Operations to support final PLBD closure continue.
Payload bay centerline camera adjust is complete with no anomalies.
ODS scan retest was successfully completed yesterday.
PLBD-0880 was picked up Wednesday on LH #1 Tile broken during PLB door opening. R&R is in work and will continue through next week.
Payload bay closeout photos began last night and continue today.
OMS post-flight vernier thruster pressure chamber tube flush is complete and good; drying continues 1st shift today.
Potable H2O servicing picked up last night and continues today. Complete at this time with fill and sample less results.
IPR 117V-0053 FRCS F5L oxidizer injector temperature reading -34F (lower limit); initial T/S indicates a broken circuit (wire); further T/S and dispo in-work
V1009.002 MPS electrical checks are scheduled for Monday.
Weekend work: Cabin air recirc/maintenance, forward compartment closeout/hatch ops, flipper door closeouts, TPS ops, SSME carrier panels, and pyro hi-pots.
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Chris Bergin - 5/1/2007 6:00 PM
shuttlefan - 5/1/2007 11:00 PM
nathan.moeller - 5/1/2007 4:31 PM
Good to see them stacked and ready. Thanks Anik. Do we have a date for ET mate? If I remember correctly Atlantis' rolloever is set for February 2.
Nathan, ET/SRB mate is targetted for 1/19/07. I believe rollover is set for Feb. 7th, unless that has indeed changed to the 2nd. (?) ;)Maybe Chris can shed some light on this.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=4983
"Atlantis is due to be stacked with ET-124 and her SRBs (Booster Integration - BI-129, Reusable Solid Rocket Motors - RSRM-96) on February 2, according to ATK."
I believe the Rollover Date is “under review”. Orbiter processing activities are/were scheduled to be completed on February 1 (i.e. Orbiter ready to roll). So as long as no issues arise with ET/SRB mate or the remaining Orbiter Processing activities then I would guess Rollover would get moved up to the 2nd to preserve as much margin in VAB and "On Pad" schedules as possible.
Mark Kirkman
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The launch time during this window is around 6am local time, right?
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mdmcgrory - 8/1/2007 5:35 PM
The launch time during this window is around 6am local time, right?
6:20 am EDT.
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6:20 is the time on March 16th. It gets an average of 23 minutes earlier each subsequent day like all ISS flights.
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STS 117 / OV104 / OPF 1
Power is up
Power up Tuesday 08:00
Forward closeouts in work
Elevon ops in work
Payload bay door closeout photos in work
Right hand stringer door installation in work
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At 6:20AM EST is there daylight yet?
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Alex - 9/1/2007 7:44 AM
At 6:20AM EST is there daylight yet?
No, as mentioned earlier in this thread, in response to me asking the same question. ;)
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I read on another site (a couple of dated references already) that today (January 10) was set for closure of Atlantis' payload bay doors.
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Chandonn - 10/1/2007 9:05 AM
I read on another site (a couple of dated references already) that today (January 10) was set for closure of Atlantis' payload bay doors.
It was indeed scheduled for today and closure preparations are underway. The doors may need to be cycled again late this week in support of final thermal protection system work.
Mark Kirkman
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Here's a snippet on the Atlantis processing - this time from the Stand-up Integration report on L2 (twice a week updates - but expansive). The next update from L2 will be the expansive daily ops reports, which go deeper into every asspect of the day's processing on each orbiter:
OV-104 (STS-117)
· They have lost a day; will sit down with their integrated flow people and NASA today to make sure the day will be recovered in the appropriate place.
· Primarily performing closeout work in OPF flow. All midbody bays are closed out except for Bay 3 LH and RH. Will close these early this week, and get into payload bay door closure later this week. Midbody will then not be available for more work until get to the launch pad.
· Critical path is TPS processing, with about 40 cavities remaining. Planned February 1st rollover date is eroding due to tile work. Working toward February 7th rollover.
· SRB stacking is complete. Performing closeouts on ET. Have 19 day test cell flow, and are on track for mate on February 19th. Plan angle and tip roll Wednesday through Saturday. On track for ET/SRB mate.
· Hyper validations are in work on Pad A. Working toward hot flow of hyper systems on January 25th. Proof loads and validations are in work. Working toward February 1st completion of structures work on weather protection and ET access platform. Have plenty of contingency time for Pad A. There has been talk of maintaining Pad B until sure will have Pad A ready. Point of no return for Pad B is January 16th.
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Ben - 8/1/2007 7:27 PM
6:20 is the time on March 16th. It gets an average of 23 minutes earlier each subsequent day like all ISS flights.
That's good information to know. I am not very knowledgeable here but have the opportunity to be in florida in March and am trying to judge a number of contingency days. Is there so many days available after which there is a gap or should I just allow as many extra days as I can?
Is there any deadline/milestone after which March 16 gets a higher or lower possibility?
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Concorde - 11/1/2007 1:13 PM Ben - 8/1/2007 7:27 PM 6:20 is the time on March 16th. It gets an average of 23 minutes earlier each subsequent day like all ISS flights.
That's good information to know. I am not very knowledgeable here but have the opportunity to be in florida in March and am trying to judge a number of contingency days. Is there so many days available after which there is a gap or should I just allow as many extra days as I can? Is there any deadline/milestone after which March 16 gets a higher or lower possibility?
My recomendation to you is be as flexible as you can. Although it looks like launch date will be March 16, or possibly March 15 the final launch date is not confirmed until the FRR about 10 days or so prior to launch. Assuming the date is set for the 15th, and if the only issue is weather - chances of a launch are pretty good within a couple of attempts, but as seen in 2006 weather may play the biggest role in deciding if the launch occurs! For planning purposes, I would likely try to be in the area for at least a week, if you have the time. There is plenty to do in the Orlando/KSC area to keep you busy while waiting for the launch! Good luck, hope you get to see it!
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Thanks for the recommendation. I had thought it was "no earlier than" for March 16 but you mention a possibility for 15th which I will bear in mind. I have about a week but am travelling from England so have flights and a hotel to arrange so don't want to wait until they are booked up!
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Hello! I saw on nasa video feeds at space station processing center a payload canister with something in it. What is in the canister at Jan. 11, 2007 at 1:00 pm mst?
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Chris Bergin - 10/1/2007 9:39 PM
OV-104 (STS-117)
· SRB stacking is complete. Performing closeouts on ET. Have 19 day test cell flow, and are on track for mate on February 19th. Plan angle and tip roll Wednesday through Saturday. On track for ET/SRB mate.
FYI; This is a typo, ET Mate is schdeduled for Jan 19th not Feb.
Mark Kirkman
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Could that be the S3/S4 Trusses in the payload canister?
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Gerald Andrew Richli - 11/1/2007 10:41 PM
Could that be the S3/S4 Trusses in the payload canister?
No, it's empty. PL roll to pad is approx. 2 days prior to SSV rollout to pad, right now 14/2. So PL roll to pad is 12/2 and PL loading into Canister is about 2 days prior to PL roll to pad.
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Thanks
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Concorde - 11/1/2007 2:49 PMThanks for the recommendation. I had thought it was "no earlier than" for March 16 but you mention a possibility for 15th which I will bear in mind. I have about a week but am travelling from England so have flights and a hotel to arrange so don't want to wait until they are booked up!
.Officially it is NET March 16, however there is talk of possibly the 15th - that's why I mentioned it for you!
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Not a patch on what we get daily on L2, but may as well add this:
Mission: STS-117 - 21st International Space Station Flight (13A) -
S3/S4 Truss Segment Solar Arrays
Vehicle: Atlantis (OV-104)
Location: Orbiter Processing Facility Bay 1
Launch Date: No earlier than March 16, 2007
Launch Pad: 39A
Crew: Sturckow, Archambault, Reilly, Swanson, Forrester and Olivas
Inclination/Orbit Altitude: 51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles
Final vehicle closeouts are under way in preparation for technicians
to move Atlantis to the Vehicle Assembly Building on Feb. 7. This
week, the payload bay was cleaned and the doors were closed. The
doors will be cycled one last time and the payload bay doors will be
closed for flight next week.
The external tank scheduled to fly with Atlantis, designated ET-124,
is in the checkout cell in the Vehicle Assembly Building for final
processing prior to being mated to the solid rocket boosters in high
bay 1. Space Shuttle Program managers will hold a review on Jan. 16
to determine the readiness to mate the tank with the boosters. Once
the review is complete and the "go ahead" has been given, the tank
will be attached on Jan. 19.
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lsullivan411 - 12/1/2007 1:11 AM
Officially it is NET March 16, however there is talk of possibly the 15th - that's why I mentioned it for you!
Thanks for that! I have yet to finalize my travel plans.
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Alex - 9/1/2007 2:44 PM
At 6:20AM EST is there daylight yet?
There is on my site a comprehensive table of different timezones, including the calendar dates when in U.S.A. are clocks to be shifted from standard to daylight saving time and vice versa, at the bottom of the following page:
http://www.lib.cas.cz/www/space.40/TIMEZONE.HTM
(for the years up to 2009)
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From L2 (Friday) - only part of the info:
OV-104 (STS-117) OPF-1
WSB blanket installation and bond checks are complete.
V1032, FWD compartment closeouts continue on schedule.
V5201, MPS cavity purge system flex hose installations and leak checks worked yesterday and will continue today.
V1339, NH3 boiler closeout inspections and TCS blanket installations are in work.
APU-0700, APU Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) detector insulation was removed, the exhaust flange was re-torqued/safety wired, and the insulation was reinstalled.
IPR 117V-0052 (circuit breaker checkout), both redundant circuit breakers feeding DDU2 were tested and functioned nominally. They were "teased" in all axes, however the ground software never saw any indication that the DDU was turned off. Further troubleshooting to follow.
Aft AV bay closeouts continue
V1041, ECLSS GN2 servicing was completed Thursday 3rd less sampling.
The payload bay doors are closed. One more cycle of the doors is scheduled for next Thursday.
V5182.001, PRSD Vac-ion pump operation is complete.
V1165, Left hand main landing gear strut hydraulic level check is complete less pressurization for flight.
Installation of door 44 for flight is complete.
INS-0557, Right hand main landing gear wing leading edge IDS testing is complete.
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avitek - 13/1/2007 7:40 AM
Alex - 9/1/2007 2:44 PM
At 6:20AM EST is there daylight yet?
There is on my site a comprehensive table of different timezones, including the calendar dates when in U.S.A. are clocks to be shifted from standard to daylight saving time and vice versa, at the bottom of the following page:
http://www.lib.cas.cz/www/space.40/TIMEZONE.HTM
(for the years up to 2009)
The USA, except Hawaii and Arizona will be on Daylight savings time from Mar 11,2007 to Nov 4, 2007.
Don
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FRCS removable in work
For Pad A
Pad SCAPE ops in work
and estimate to be complete with SCAPE ops at 21:00 tonight
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So that means they're finally pressing ahead with Pad A for launch of STS-117 or is it still TBD?
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Chris Bergin - 14/1/2007 4:48 PM
FRCS removable in work
For Pad A
Pad SCAPE ops in work
and estimate to be complete with SCAPE ops at 21:00 tonight
I believe the FRCS (Forward Reaction Control System) removal was a typo. That occured on Discovery not Atlantis and should be complete.
To answer the previous post, yes Pad A is still the planned launch pad for 117.
Mark Kirkman
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My guess is that as today (the 15th) is a Federal holiday and tomorrow the 16th is the "drop dead" date mentioned for Pad B - there should probably be official word tomorrow. Anybody else agree??
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lsullivan411 - 15/1/2007 1:11 PM
My guess is that as today (the 15th) is a Federal holiday and tomorrow the 16th is the "drop dead" date mentioned for Pad B - there should probably be official word tomorrow. Anybody else agree??
I don't see this as a big issue folks, nothing to date indicates that a switch to PAD B is going to be necessary.
Mark Kirkman
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Bill Harwood updated his pages today to reflect a March 15 launch date:
01/15/07: Updating launch window; calendar; updating flight plan to reflect presumed 3/15 launch for STS-117
Date: 03/15/07
Window Open: 06:37:48 AM
Launch: 06:42:48 AM
Window Close: 06:47:48 AM
Docking: Flight Day 3
Sunrise at the Kennedy Space Center on March 15 is at 7:32 a.m. EDT.
http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/currentglance.html
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Well I didn't expect a slightly heated debate on processing! Please keep it calm (those posts are deleted). Thanks.
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Has anyone heard any word on whether or not the switch to Pad B will be made?
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nathan.moeller - 16/1/2007 1:54 PM
Has anyone heard any word on whether or not the switch to Pad B will be made?
They are moving forward with Pad A.
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Thanks for the good news Chris. One last question. Do they have a work-to date for Pad A refurbishment completion?
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collectspace - 15/1/2007 6:58 PM
Bill Harwood updated his pages today to reflect a March 15 launch date:
01/15/07: Updating launch window; calendar; updating flight plan to reflect presumed 3/15 launch for STS-117
Date: 03/15/07
Window Open: 06:37:48 AM
Launch: 06:42:48 AM
Window Close: 06:47:48 AM
Docking: Flight Day 3
Sunrise at the Kennedy Space Center on March 15 is at 7:32 a.m. EDT.
http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/currentglance.html
Since my birthday is March 15...I sure hope this holds -- that would be quite a birthday candle!
Fingers crossed.
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Mine is the 18th, but I am not gonna ask for a delay just for me ;) The way I see it, ISS docking might be my present :)
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It'll be great to see another night launch. Ha STS-121 lifted off the day after my bday (July 3). Looks like some of us are getting nice "candles" on the cake this time around! Have they officially set the target launch date as March 15 or is that still in discussion? By official I don't mean FRR official, but as a work-to date.
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astrobrian - 17/1/2007 9:50 AM
Mine is the 18th, but I am not gonna ask for a delay just for me ;) The way I see it, ISS docking might be my present :)
I admire your selflessness!! Either way, let's hope we're both grinning from ear to ear with the launch of STS-117 in March!
And Nathan, I don't know if it is a "work-to" date or not. I'll see if I can find out.
:)
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Would be good watching 2 Sunrises within a hour (STS-117 and then the real thing)
Cocoa Beach Sunrise/Sunsets in March from http://www.sunrisesunset.com/usa/Florida.asp
Bill Harwood tentative LO at 03/15/07...STS-117...Launch (6:42 AM EDT)
Or have I miscalculated the DST????
(Nautical twilight is defined when the sun is 12 degrees below the horizon. At the beginning or end of nautical twilight, under good atmospheric conditions and in the absence of other illumination, general outlines of ground objects may be distinguishable, but detailed outdoor operations are not possible, and the horizon is indistinct. )
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Twi A: 6:15am
Twi N: 6:43am
Twi: 7:10am
Sunrise: 7:34am
15th March
Twi A: 6:14am
Twi Nautical: 6:42am
Twi: 7:09am
Sunrise: 7:32am
16
Twi A: 6:13am
Twi N: 6:41am
Twi: 7:08am
Sunrise: 7:31am
17
Twi A: 6:12am
Twi N: 6:39am
Twi: 7:07am
Sunrise: 7:30am
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At 6:42, it will be a solid night launch for all that matters. There might *just* be the hint of something blue coming up on the horizon, but once the shuttle launches you won't even notice :-)
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Scubaroo, it will look something like the STS-109 liftoff if they launch within the first two or three days of the window. STS-109 launched at 6:22 AM EST on March 1, 2002 and there was a good amount of sunlight on the horizon, even though the sun hadn't come up yet. The booster flames made it look like the dead-of-night again for those who were close enough but it turned back to day pretty quick. But yeah, go here and watch the launch video and replays (Realplayer required). That's probably close to what we can expect to see. We'll hope for the cloud deck again ;)
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/sts-109/movies/movies.html
EDIT: If they launch on the first day or two, it will probably be closer to the STS-102 launch, which launched at 6:42 AM EST on March 8, 2001. Pretty dazzling as well.
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/sts-102/movies/movies.html
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Assuming 15 March launch at exactly 6:42am ...
By my reckoning the Shuttle reaches sunlight at about 4 minutes into flight, due to gaining height and making distance east. The long lenses should just about catch it. SRBs jettison before that of course, T+2min, but even then it should be rather brighter up there (45km) than at ground level.
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You're right. This can be seen clearly by those who were standing in viewing sites that were no where near the launch site. But the best idea of daylight you get is from the flight deck view. They're flying right into the sunlight. Rather beautiful. But yes, once the shuttle has gained enough altitude (within the first minute of flight), the sunlight becomes much more apparent to those at the viewing sites near the Launch Complex. Those who are many miles away will have apparent daylight throughout the launch. Bear in mind this assumes a liftoff within the first three, or so, days of the launch window.
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No, it will NOT be a predawn launch like 109, and will of course not be a sunrise launch like 102. This will be a DARK night launch. Sunrise is 7:33, launch is 6:42 on the first day or 6:17 on the second day. If the smoke contrail has any chance of seeing sunlight (which I do not think it will), then it would be on the first attempt only.
While the SRB trail climbs mighty high, the rate at which the sun illuminates atmosphere by height is rather fast.
You are comparing launch times, when this does not matter when you are talking about the sun rising at a totally different time. 109 was 30 mins before sunrise, 102 was one minute after the sun was up.
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Didn't know that. But I'm not talking sunrise. I am indeed making a few comparisons to gain a very ROUGH idea as to what we MIGHT see. I know that it will be quite dark, but some sunlight will probably be visible on the horizon. I've had my fair share of all-nighters and have seen a few sun-ups. The sky starts getting lighter a good while before the sun actually rises. Thank you Architorture ;)
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I believe there will be the first hint of blue coming up, but not enough to make this what I describe as "different than a night launch."
I don't consider 109 a night launch even though NASA does, beacuse it doesn't have the same effect in person :-)
My best bet is that, if any of the trail reaches sunlight, it will be the uppermost 5 miles or less. I cannot think offhand of any launch that occured 45-50 minutes before or after sunrise/set, so this may be a first for the shuttle. The most, while still being light out, that I can think of is 27 minutes for 109.
Several launches, maybe five, have happened at the instant of sunrise and several more have been within the 30 minute mark either way. If it moves up to the 14th, then we'll be talking ;-)
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With launch at 6:42 am, that will bring Atlantis into my view (Long Island, NY) at approximately 6:50.
If skys are clear, we should get a nice view of powered flight followed by MECO. Viewing conditions were really great here for last months launch of STS-116.
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Ben - 18/1/2007 3:19 PM
I believe there will be the first hint of blue coming up, but not enough to make this what I describe as "different than a night launch."
I don't consider 109 a night launch even though NASA does, beacuse it doesn't have the same effect in person :-)
My best bet is that, if any of the trail reaches sunlight, it will be the uppermost 5 miles or less. I cannot think offhand of any launch that occured 45-50 minutes before or after sunrise/set, so this may be a first for the shuttle. The most, while still being light out, that I can think of is 27 minutes for 109.
Several launches, maybe five, have happened at the instant of sunrise and several more have been within the 30 minute mark either way. If it moves up to the 14th, then we'll be talking ;-)
Didn't know all that :) Thanks Ben. Glad to know we have someone who's been to plenty of launches and knows all these stats. Yeah STS-109 wasn't a night launch IMO either but I guess with flight log rules it was officially. What is it? 15 minutes before/after sunrise/set to be classified as night launch/landing? Oh well. Yeah I don't see the 14th happening but who knows? Either way, I think we're in for a heck of a light show. Thanks for info.
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Yea, it's a 15 minute rule. they may not be true night launches but they are the prettiest. I hope to see another sunrise and sunset launch before it's over. Sept. 7 is one right now, but it could change by the time it arrives. (And going off-topic, THEMIS is scheduled for 6:07 to 6:27 with sunset at 6:13).
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From one of several reports dated today, on L2:
OV-104 (STS-117) OPF-1
APU Water Line Heater Retest work performed yesterday – test results were nominal.
FCP complete and good with FCP-148/V5182.
IPR-0056 - plan is to have ECL remove the wire harness from the vehicle early tomorrow morning and have NSLD run a highpot test at OPF-1 first shift on Friday. NSLD will then repair the harness in time for power up on Monday morning.
Payload Bay Doors were cycled yesterday to support tile work. Zero-G fixture and strongback will be removed today.
The Payload customer has formally requested a schedule change for transporting the Payload to the Pad in order to change out a rotary motor controller. The payload is currently scheduled to arrive at the Pad on the 8th of February; the new date is February 18th.
Final full-up Hydraulics will be performed later tonight to position aerosurfaces for roll out. A dedicated hydraulic operation was performed on 1st shift yesterday to lower the landing gear (MLG and nose gear). The gear should stay lowered until V1098 unless TPS/MEQ has a need to raise the gear.
IPR-0052 DDU BITE troubleshooting resumes tonight.
Orbiter Final Power down scheduled for Thursday, 1/25/07.
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Chris Bergin - 18/1/2007 5:13 PM
From one of several reports dated today, on L2:
OV-104 (STS-117) OPF-1
APU Water Line Heater Retest work performed yesterday – test results were nominal.
FCP complete and good with FCP-148/V5182.
IPR-0056 - plan is to have ECL remove the wire harness from the vehicle early tomorrow morning and have NSLD run a highpot test at OPF-1 first shift on Friday. NSLD will then repair the harness in time for power up on Monday morning.
Payload Bay Doors were cycled yesterday to support tile work. Zero-G fixture and strongback will be removed today.
The Payload customer has formally requested a schedule change for transporting the Payload to the Pad in order to change out a rotary motor controller. The payload is currently scheduled to arrive at the Pad on the 8th of February; the new date is February 18th.
Final full-up Hydraulics will be performed later tonight to position aerosurfaces for roll out. A dedicated hydraulic operation was performed on 1st shift yesterday to lower the landing gear (MLG and nose gear). The gear should stay lowered until V1098 unless TPS/MEQ has a need to raise the gear.
IPR-0052 DDU BITE troubleshooting resumes tonight.
Orbiter Final Power down scheduled for Thursday, 1/25/07.
Chris, is ET/SRB mate still on for tomorrow?
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shuttlefan - 19/1/2007 12:23 AM
Chris, is ET/SRB mate still on for tomorrow?
Yes. No constraints for S0003 ops tommorow.
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DaveS - 18/1/2007 5:38 PM
shuttlefan - 19/1/2007 12:23 AM
Chris, is ET/SRB mate still on for tomorrow?
Yes. No constraints for S0003 ops tommorow.
S0003 ops means, ET/SRB mating, I gather. Can someone provide a list of important processing milestones and their associated S..... numbers as with S0003 for ET mating ops.? Just interested....
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shuttlefan - 18/1/2007 5:43 PM
DaveS - 18/1/2007 5:38 PM
shuttlefan - 19/1/2007 12:23 AM
Chris, is ET/SRB mate still on for tomorrow?
Yes. No constraints for S0003 ops tommorow.
S0003 ops means, ET/SRB mating, I gather. Can someone provide a list of important processing milestones and their associated S..... numbers as with S0003 for ET mating ops.? Just interested....
Yes S0003 is ET/SRB Mate Ops. I thought I posted a list of the major S and V operations somewhere in all of these threads. I will make another short list of the major processing operations/OMI numbers and post it later tonight or first thing in the morning.
Mark Kirkman
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Thanks Mark, that'd be great.
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mkirk - 18/1/2007 6:05 PM
shuttlefan - 18/1/2007 5:43 PM
DaveS - 18/1/2007 5:38 PM
shuttlefan - 19/1/2007 12:23 AM
Chris, is ET/SRB mate still on for tomorrow?
Yes. No constraints for S0003 ops tommorow.
S0003 ops means, ET/SRB mating, I gather. Can someone provide a list of important processing milestones and their associated S..... numbers as with S0003 for ET mating ops.? Just interested....
Yes S0003 is ET/SRB Mate Ops. I thought I posted a list of the major S and V operations somewhere in all of these threads. I will make another short list of the major processing operations/OMI numbers and post it later tonight or first thing in the morning.
Mark Kirkman
Much appreciated Mark!! Sorry, maybe I should've tried searching the other threads first. :) :)
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A snippet from the ATK Quick Look presentation on L2 (Jan 18) - ahead of Friday's stacking of ET-124 with the boosters.
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From Chris' article:
STS-117 Flight Readiness Review (FRR) is set for February 27-28.
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Any word on ET/SRB mating operations?
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Well...here's the big update involving operations at the VAB today I'm afraid. The American Flag and NASA meatball logo are being repainted for the first time since 1998. Now let's see if they'll show some pictures INSIDE.
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shuttlefan - 18/1/2007 9:29 PM
mkirk - 18/1/2007 6:05 PM
shuttlefan - 18/1/2007 5:43 PM
DaveS - 18/1/2007 5:38 PM
shuttlefan - 19/1/2007 12:23 AM
Chris, is ET/SRB mate still on for tomorrow?
Yes. No constraints for S0003 ops tommorow.
S0003 ops means, ET/SRB mating, I gather. Can someone provide a list of important processing milestones and their associated S..... numbers as with S0003 for ET mating ops.? Just interested....
Yes S0003 is ET/SRB Mate Ops. I thought I posted a list of the major S and V operations somewhere in all of these threads. I will make another short list of the major processing operations/OMI numbers and post it later tonight or first thing in the morning.
Mark Kirkman
Much appreciated Mark!! Sorry, maybe I should've tried searching the other threads first. :) :)
Okay here is a partial list of the more common OMIs (operations and maintenance instructions) might see mentioned during the processing flow (except the FRF one of course). This is certainly not a complete list, there are literally hundreds of OMIs. This is just a list off the top of my head. Many OMIs have multiple volumes and cover more tasks than I identified here.
Maybe when I am less busy and lazy I will supply a more complete list or if I can find it I will post the OMI index which has just about everything (even the really ovscure stuff).
Mark Kirkman
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nathan.moeller - 19/1/2007 2:17 PM
Well...here's the big update involving operations at the VAB today I'm afraid. The American Flag and NASA meatball logo are being repainted for the first time since 1998. Now let's see if they'll show some pictures INSIDE.
Yeah I saw those guys on the scaffolds up there on Monday when I was at KSC for a tour. The stars are 6' across, and the stripes on the flag are wide enough to drive a bus on :)
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nathan.moeller - 19/1/2007 2:17 PM Well...here's the big update involving operations at the VAB today I'm afraid. The American Flag and NASA meatball logo are being repainted for the first time since 1998. Now let's see if they'll show some pictures INSIDE.
As many times as I have been there the flag or meatball never look that big from the ground, having the folks on the scafolding really shows how huge they are. When did they actually put the NASA meatball on there? I just found some pictures of a trip to KSC in 1997 that has what I think I remember as the bicentenial symbol on there, and I can't remember what was there my last trip around 1999 or 2000.
I see I should read better - you said 1998!!! Time for another cup of coffee! :o
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lsullivan411 - 19/1/2007 8:57 PM
When did they actually put the NASA meatball on there? I just found some pictures of a trip to KSC in 1997 that has what I think I remember as the bicentenial symbol on there, and I can't remember what was there my last trip around 1999 or 2000.
1998, in time for NASA's 40th anniversary.
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Is the external tank being mated to the twin SRB's for STS-117?
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Thanks for the Operations listing Mark. This is really helpful! Still nothing on mating on the KSC archives. I'm willing to bet we'll see some pictures tonight, but if there's anyone who can confirm mating that would be awesome.
And yes, the 1998 repainting was for NASA's 40th Anniversary.
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Mission: STS-117 - 21st International Space Station Flight (13A) -
S3/S4 Truss Segment Solar Arrays
Vehicle: Atlantis (OV-104)
Location: Orbiter Processing Facility Bay 1
Launch Date: Targeted for March 16, 2007
Launch Pad: 39A
Crew: Sturckow, Archambault, Reilly, Swanson, Forrester and Olivas
Inclination/Orbit Altitude: 51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles
Final vehicle closeouts are under way in preparation for technicians
to move Atlantis to the Vehicle Assembly Building on Feb. 7. This
week, technicians worked to close out the forward reaction control
system, the midbody and aft areas. The payload bay doors were cycled
and closed for flight. The payload bay door strongbacks were removed
Thursday. Final orbiter power down is scheduled for Jan. 25.
Today, the external tank scheduled to fly with Atlantis, designated
ET-124, was moved from the checkout cell in the Vehicle Assembly
Building to be mated to the solid rocket boosters in high bay 1.
Space Shuttle Program managers held a review on Tuesday and gave the
"go ahead" to mate the tank with the boosters.
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For the sake of argument, I took a look at the western sky 45 and 50 mins after sunset today. There was a little more blue than I expected (more than a hint, but not nearly as much as 109). Light falloff from 45 to 50 mins was very noticible too; falloff happens very fast after sundown. By 55 minutes after it was down to a mere hint, and by the one-hour after sunset mark, it was totally black. Had the launch taken place in the amount of light at the 50 minute point, I would say as I said before that the very upper reaches of the smoke trail would have hit sunlight, probably along the line such that it would hit orange/pink and perhaps yellow but not white.
I don't know if there will be a big difference in the "blue time" near the equinox, but this tells me that it's possible we could be looking at a pretty one.
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Thanks for the research Ben (no sarcasm intended). Glad I think visually ;) By what you've listed it sounds like the only way we'll see a little light is if they lift off on March 15. Anything else it'll be dead black I'm guessing.
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Has ET-124 been mated to twin SRB's for STS-117?
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Gerald Andrew Richli - 20/1/2007 6:40 AM
Has ET-124 been mated to twin SRB's for STS-117?
Yes. Mate operations are underway at this time.
Mark Kirkman
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Thanks Mark. Are there any details as to where they are in the operations?
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Thanks Mark.
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Just got word from Chris that ET/SRB is complete.
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nathan.moeller - 20/1/2007 10:13 AM
Thanks Mark. Are there any details as to where they are in the operations?
The tank is hard mated to the SRBs. Removal of the sling and post mate inspections and closeouts are underway.
Mark Kirkman
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mkirk - 20/1/2007 7:10 PM
nathan.moeller - 20/1/2007 10:13 AM
Thanks Mark. Are there any details as to where they are in the operations?
The tank is hard mated to the SRBs. Removal of the sling and post mate inspections and closeouts are underway.
Mark Kirkman
Mark, thanks for confirming the ET and SRBs are mated!! Theoretically, could the shuttle be mated to the ET now, or are there a number of checkouts of the SRB/ET stack that must be completed BEFORE the Shuttle is mated? :)
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shuttlefan - 20/1/2007 9:09 PM
Mark, thanks for confirming the ET and SRBs are mated!! Theoretically, could the shuttle be mated to the ET now, or are there a number of checkouts of the SRB/ET stack that must be completed BEFORE the Shuttle is mated? :)
There's quite a bit of hardware and electrical connections, plus the electrical and sensor checkouts (not to mention the after-mating hardware checks) to be done after mating which could take several days. Regardless, unless there's some major problem, the stack should be more than ready whenever the orbiter is ready to be lifted.
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MKremer - 20/1/2007 9:50 PM
shuttlefan - 20/1/2007 9:09 PM
Mark, thanks for confirming the ET and SRBs are mated!! Theoretically, could the shuttle be mated to the ET now, or are there a number of checkouts of the SRB/ET stack that must be completed BEFORE the Shuttle is mated? :)
There's quite a bit of hardware and electrical connections, plus the electrical and sensor checkouts (not to mention the after-mating hardware checks) to be done after mating which could take several days. Regardless, unless there's some major problem, the stack should be more than ready whenever the orbiter is ready to be lifted.
Am I correct in assuming the Launch Processing System would be involved in some of the checkouts, with how many launch controllers staffing the Launch control Center for these tests? :)
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shuttlefan - 20/1/2007 10:10 PM
MKremer - 20/1/2007 9:50 PM
There's quite a bit of hardware and electrical connections, plus the electrical and sensor checkouts (not to mention the after-mating hardware checks) to be done after mating which could take several days. Regardless, unless there's some major problem, the stack should be more than ready whenever the orbiter is ready to be lifted.
Am I correct in assuming the Launch Processing System would be involved in some of the checkouts, with how many launch controllers staffing the Launch control Center for these tests? :)
Good question - what tests/checks are done on-site (within VAB) -vs- test/checks done via the firing room?
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MKremer - 20/1/2007 11:29 PM
shuttlefan - 20/1/2007 10:10 PM
MKremer - 20/1/2007 9:50 PM
There's quite a bit of hardware and electrical connections, plus the electrical and sensor checkouts (not to mention the after-mating hardware checks) to be done after mating which could take several days. Regardless, unless there's some major problem, the stack should be more than ready whenever the orbiter is ready to be lifted.
Am I correct in assuming the Launch Processing System would be involved in some of the checkouts, with how many launch controllers staffing the Launch control Center for these tests? :)
Good question - what tests/checks are done on-site (within VAB) -vs- test/checks done via the firing room?
All major and integrated tests are done by the LCC including ones involving power to the vehicle.
Some lower level testing may using small local test sets but the LCC is still involved
The manloading in the LCC is determined by the number of systems involved in the tests or other tests being done on the same time
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Good to hear it's all going well so far in the flow.
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Just noticed photos of the tank mate to the SRB's now on Kennedy Media Gallery!
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=71
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Payload Canister at Launch Pad 39A for a fit check. Here's a pic from the Media Gallery earlier today.
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What's the reason for the fit check? Have there been any modifications to the canister?
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eeergo - 23/1/2007 10:46 AM
What's the reason for the fit check? Have there been any modifications to the canister?
No. Pad 39A has been undergoing refurbishment for a while and that included some RSS mods I believe. They just need to make sure everything works.
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nathan.moeller - 23/1/2007 10:53 AM
eeergo - 23/1/2007 10:46 AM
What's the reason for the fit check? Have there been any modifications to the canister?
No. Pad 39A has been undergoing refurbishment for a while and that included some RSS mods I believe. They just need to make sure everything works.
STS-107 was the most-recent launch from 39-A, over 4 years ago.
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shuttlefan - 23/1/2007 6:51 PM
nathan.moeller - 23/1/2007 10:53 AM
eeergo - 23/1/2007 10:46 AM
What's the reason for the fit check? Have there been any modifications to the canister?
No. Pad 39A has been undergoing refurbishment for a while and that included some RSS mods I believe. They just need to make sure everything works.
STS-107 was the most-recent launch from 39-A, over 4 years ago.
Yes and no payload ops was done at the pad. SHI/RDM, FREESTAR and EDO cryokit was installed in the horizontal while Columbia was in the OPF.
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Ever wondered where the Orbiter Transporter System is kept when it's not used to move orbiters around?
Then this image will tell you where:
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The SRM transporter is in the larger building
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why has the OTS been siting outside like this for the last 2 days?
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Atlantis launch may be moved up to March 15...according to Space.com
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The NASA facts say the OTS came from SLC6 in 1989, were the Orbiters towed to the VAB before then?
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punkboi - 23/1/2007 3:37 PM
Atlantis launch may be moved up to March 15...according to Space.com
Mentioned in this thread and on L2 about two weeks ago...
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gordo - 23/1/2007 10:48 PM
The NASA facts say the OTS came from SLC6 in 1989, were the Orbiters towed to the VAB before then?
Yes. Originally NASA had no plans to get an OTS of their own as the OTS was mostly needed as the OMCF was located some 20 miles away from the pad! Also, the terrain at VAFB is very hilly so they wanted something that could keep the orbiter level during transit.
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ATK's status shows stacked tank and SRBs complete and ready for Atlantis.
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Looks like we're heading for a few days of delay - Someone's make a big cock up.....ET's on upside down...opps
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"Lads, we've put the tank on the wrong way around" ;)
More snippets from the expansive processing reports on L2: This one from the Daily Ops (Jan 23):
OV-104 (STS-117) OPF-1
V1032, Final roll preparations, are in work with LO2 and LH2 purge flex hoses and continues with bay-6 platform and mid-deck blow-down preps.
IPR 117V-0056 - During the installation of the vendor wire harness identified by this IPR, a bent pin on the cabin fan assembly delta pressure sensor was discovered. Due to the severity of the bent pin and the availability of a spare sensor it was decided to R&R the part. NSLD will remove the damaged sensor and replace it with a spare sensor. Due to this, the vehicle was not powered up yesterday but is scheduled for power up this morning. Retest will follow after power up.
V1098 - Path to landing gear functional.
Bonding of Main Landing Gear Door (MLGD) seals 1 & 3 was completed yesterday. Bonding of seals 2 and 4 should be done today, in the hope that the 72 hour cure will be complete Friday morning. Another stop bolt measurement and door closure is currently scheduled for Friday. If all the measurements are satisfactory, tile operations will continue. The current plan is for TPS to work through the weekend and be ready for V1098 on Monday next.
FWD-6143, Evaluation of the hydraulic closure friction tests is complete. The evaluation determined that a total of 11 patches will be required; 10 primaries and 1 OML. Two high pull locations will require massaging. Patch rework along the centerline is minimized to avoid adverse affects to centerline stop bolt gaps.
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NASA.gov launch schedule updated with March 15. Thanks to the heads up earlier on this forum I'll be in Fl. from the 14th !! :-)
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Welcome to the site Concorde. Yeah any information NASA plans on distributing, whether it be schedule changes or crew assignments or whatever, chances are you'll find it here first. L2 especially. Definitely worth the money.
EDIT: Any updates on how to fix our "bottoms-up" tank? ;)
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I don't know if the ATK people who write the powerpoint come here, but good news on the tank on the Jan 25th report on L2, they've sorted it out ;)
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rdale - 23/1/2007 1:53 PM punkboi - 23/1/2007 3:37 PM Atlantis launch may be moved up to March 15...according to Space.com
Mentioned in this thread and on L2 about two weeks ago...
I'm not big on research :)
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punkboi - 25/1/2007 6:24 PM
rdale - 23/1/2007 1:53 PM punkboi - 23/1/2007 3:37 PM Atlantis launch may be moved up to March 15...according to Space.com
Mentioned in this thread and on L2 about two weeks ago...
I'm not big on research :)
Mentioned in articles on the news site also, and on this very thread, two weeks ago. I turned the change of launch date around the same day. I believe it was when Hubble was moved to Atlantis on the FAWG and Launch Schedules.
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Some pad news for you all:
"PAD A
G2108, LOX tank replenish was worked with 4 waves of tankers yesterday and 4 more waves will be worked today."
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Mission: STS-117 - 21st International Space Station Flight (13A) -
S3/S4 Truss Segment Solar Arrays
Vehicle: Atlantis (OV-104)
Location: Orbiter Processing Facility Bay 1
Launch Date: Targeted for March 15, 2007
Launch Pad: 39A
Crew: Sturckow, Archambault, Reilly, Swanson, Forrester and Olivas
Inclination/Orbit Altitude: 51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles
On Wednesday, the Space Shuttle Program signed a change request moving
the STS-117 targeted launch date to March 15, one day earlier than
originally planned. Final vehicle closeouts are under way in
preparation for technicians to move Atlantis to the Vehicle Assembly
Building on Feb. 7.
Technicians completed the flight deck closeout and are working to
finish closing out the forward area. The final vehicle power down and
main landing gear functional test are scheduled for Jan. 29. Aft
structural leak test preparations began today, and the test will
begin early next week. On Jan. 31, technicians will perform the final
weight and center-of-gravity measurements on the vehicle, and the
orbiter transporter system will be brought into the bay on Feb. 1.
Last week, the external tank scheduled to fly with Atlantis,
designated ET-124, was moved from the checkout cell in the Vehicle
Assembly Building to be mated to the solid rocket boosters in high
bay 1. Technicians are completing the final foam application and
strut closeouts in preparation for attaching the orbiter on Feb. 7.
At Pad A, technicians performed a payload canister fit check. The
canister will be used to transport the payload for the mission, the
S3/S4 solar arrays, scheduled to go to the pad on Feb. 18.
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When is Atlantis set to rollout to the pad?
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MarkD - 27/1/2007 7:04 PM
When is Atlantis set to rollout to the pad?
Read the site Mark. Questions can be founding using the search function.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5002
Currently, Atlantis is targeting a rollover and arrival in the VAB (Vehicle Assembly Building) on February 7, for mating with ET-124 and SRBs, with the stack rolling out to Pad 39A a week later on the 14th, ahead of the March 15 (target) No Earlier Than (NET) launch date.
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You can find processing milestones here as well:
http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/currentglance.html#LAUNCHES
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jacqmans - 26/1/2007 2:34 PM
At Pad A, technicians performed a payload canister fit check. The
canister will be used to transport the payload for the mission, the
S3/S4 solar arrays, scheduled to go to the pad on Feb. 18.
Chris Bergin - 27/1/2007 3:14 PM
Currently, Atlantis is targeting a rollover and arrival in the VAB (Vehicle Assembly Building) on February 7, for mating with ET-124 and SRBs, with the stack rolling out to Pad 39A a week later on the 14th, ahead of the March 15 (target) No Earlier Than (NET) launch date.
Doesn't this mean that the payload will arrive at the pad after the shuttle?
I believe that all of the recent shuttle flights have had the payload arrive at the pad before the shuttle.
Does this create any sort of conflict?
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marsguy - 28/1/2007 12:10 AM
jacqmans - 26/1/2007 2:34 PM
At Pad A, technicians performed a payload canister fit check. The
canister will be used to transport the payload for the mission, the
S3/S4 solar arrays, scheduled to go to the pad on Feb. 18.
Chris Bergin - 27/1/2007 3:14 PM
Currently, Atlantis is targeting a rollover and arrival in the VAB (Vehicle Assembly Building) on February 7, for mating with ET-124 and SRBs, with the stack rolling out to Pad 39A a week later on the 14th, ahead of the March 15 (target) No Earlier Than (NET) launch date.
Doesn't this mean that the payload will arrive at the pad after the shuttle?
I believe that all of the recent shuttle flights have had the payload arrive at the pad before the shuttle.
Does this create any sort of conflict?
Won't be a problem, but you are right that it's not the norm:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=4999
In an uncommon move, Atlantis' payload, the S3/S4 truss elements, will be heading to the launch pad four days after the vehicle arrives at the launch pad.
'The Payload customer has formally requested a schedule change for transporting the Payload to the Pad in order to change out a rotary motor controller,' noted the January 18th NASA Operations Presentation. 'The payload is currently scheduled to arrive at the Pad on the 8th of February; the new date is February 18th.'
The last time a shuttle payload went to the pad after the rollout was on STS-93 in July 1999.
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I don't think that's correct, here is an image of STS-110's canister being lifted after rollout:
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=9150
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Chris Bergin - 28/1/2007 6:22 PM
marsguy - 28/1/2007 12:10 AM
jacqmans - 26/1/2007 2:34 PM
At Pad A, technicians performed a payload canister fit check. The
canister will be used to transport the payload for the mission, the
S3/S4 solar arrays, scheduled to go to the pad on Feb. 18.
Chris Bergin - 27/1/2007 3:14 PM
Currently, Atlantis is targeting a rollover and arrival in the VAB (Vehicle Assembly Building) on February 7, for mating with ET-124 and SRBs, with the stack rolling out to Pad 39A a week later on the 14th, ahead of the March 15 (target) No Earlier Than (NET) launch date.
Doesn't this mean that the payload will arrive at the pad after the shuttle?
I believe that all of the recent shuttle flights have had the payload arrive at the pad before the shuttle.
Does this create any sort of conflict?
Won't be a problem, but you are right that it's not the norm:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=4999
In an uncommon move, Atlantis' payload, the S3/S4 truss elements, will be heading to the launch pad four days after the vehicle arrives at the launch pad.
'The Payload customer has formally requested a schedule change for transporting the Payload to the Pad in order to change out a rotary motor controller,' noted the January 18th NASA Operations Presentation. 'The payload is currently scheduled to arrive at the Pad on the 8th of February; the new date is February 18th.'
The last time a shuttle payload went to the pad after the rollout was on STS-93 in July 1999.
Thanks for the question Marsguy, as I missed the article linked!
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Me too. Nice quoting off memos there :)
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Copying some L2 snippets into here, dated today:
OV-104 (STS-117) OPF-1
Atlantis completed its final power down yesterday with no anomalies. Rollout to the VAB is scheduled for Wednesday February 7th.
Aft compartment structural leak tests were completed successfully last night. Crew compartment positive pressure testing was also completed successfully.
Landing gear functional completed last night with no additional tile issues.
RWNG-4740 RH #9 LESS tile initial prefit was completed last night; tile sent back to TPSF for densification. Further prefits if required will occur later this week.
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It is good to hear that everything is going well for Atlantis and that processing is on track. I am looking forward to this mission. :)
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From KSC photo album, Pad 39A RSS has swung open to receive STS-117 Altantis Shuttle. See Kennedy space center website.
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Do you have a link? Could not find it!
Thank you!
Stefan :)
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Here you go...
http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/images//medium/07pd0204-m.jpg
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Ok, thank you very much! Great picture!
The Pad 39A has recently been reworked / modified, right?
Stefan :)
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Actually, the RSS on A has been in the fully open position for over a year; what they did was move it for the first time since.
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Feb. 1, 2007
MEDIA ADVISORY: M07-016
NASA TO HIGHLIGHT NEXT SPACE STATION COMPONENT
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - On Tuesday, Feb 6, at 10:30 a.m. EST, NASA's
Kennedy Space Center in Florida will showcase the next element to be
added to the International Space Station. The starboard 3/4 truss
segment will launch aboard Space Shuttle Atlantis on mission STS-117,
targeted for March 15.
The element will be added to the 11-segment integrated truss
structure, the station's backbone. The integrated truss structure
eventually will span more than 300 feet. The S3/S4 truss has two
large solar arrays and will provide one-fourth of the total power
generation for the completed station. The S3/S4 truss is expected to
be loaded into a transportation canister on Wednesday, Feb. 7, in
preparation for its targeted journey to the launch pad on Feb. 12.
NASA and Boeing mission managers involved in processing the element
for flight will be available for a question-and-answer session during
Tuesday's event.
Reporters planning to attend the event should arrive at Kennedy's
press site by 9:30 a.m. for transportation to the Space Station
Processing Facility. All participants must be dressed in full-length
pants, shirts with sleeves and flat shoes that entirely cover the
feet. Members of the media without permanent Kennedy credentials
should submit their request to attend via the online accreditation
Web site at:
https://media.ksc.nasa.gov
For information on the STS-117 mission, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/shuttle
For information on the space station, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/station
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Snippet from L2:
OV-104 (STS-117)/OPF-1
Final tire pressure for flight was completed for all tires yesterday on 2nd shift; rollover to the VAB scheduled for Feb 7th.
Tile delineation installation complete.
FRC4-1051 REID carrier panel complete.
Attitude measurements complete; data transferred to OHE.
Preps for orbiter jackdown and weight & CG will continue today; CTS will be at the beginning of 2nd shift;
Orbiter/OTS Transport Operations - OPF To VAB Pre-test briefing re-scheduled to this morning at 10am along with F-1 walkdown
Payload currently scheduled to arrive at Pad A on Feb 12th.
NOTE PAYLOAD arrival could change as per Standup on L2.
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Article made out of some of the extensive Standup/Integration report on L2:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5011
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02.02.07
MEDIA ADVISORY: M07-017
NASA'S SHUTTLE ATLANTIS SET FOR MOVE TO VEHICLE ASSEMBLY BUILDING
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - Media are invited to witness an important
milestone for the upcoming Space Shuttle Atlantis mission, designated
STS-117. On Wednesday, Feb. 7, Atlantis is scheduled to move from the
Orbiter Processing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center to the
Vehicle Assembly Building. Once there, crews will attach Atlantis to
its external fuel tank and twin solid rocket boosters.
The first motion of the shuttle aboard the crawler-transporter is
expected at 6 a.m. EST. Media must arrive at Kennedy's News Center by
5:15 a.m. to attend the event.
Atlantis' targeted launch window opens March 15. During its 11-day
mission to the International Space Station, the STS-117 crew of six
astronauts will deliver a fourth segment for the station's backbone.
They also will unfurl new solar arrays and fold up an old set of
arrays during the 21st shuttle mission to the station.
Permanently badged media should contact Kennedy's News Center at
321-867-2468 by Feb. 6 to attend. Event dates and times are subject
to change. Schedule updates are available by calling 321-867-2525.
Media without Kennedy credentials must pick up badges by 4 p.m. on
Feb. 6, after submitting badge requests via the accreditation Web
site:
https://media.ksc.nasa.gov
Video of the rollover will air on NASA TV's Video File. For NASA TV
downlink, streaming video and scheduling information, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/ntv
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CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - Media are invited to witness an important
milestone for the upcoming Space Shuttle Atlantis mission, designated
STS-117. On Wednesday, Feb. 7, Atlantis is scheduled to move from the
Orbiter Processing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center to the
Vehicle Assembly Building. Once there, crews will attach Atlantis to
its external fuel tank and twin solid rocket boosters.
The first motion of the shuttle aboard the crawler-transporter is
expected at 6 a.m. EST. Media must arrive at Kennedy's News Center by
5:15 a.m. to attend the event.
My first post, and I'm probably a clueless newbie, but it goes from OPF to VAB on the crawler?
Lee Jay
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Lee Jay - 3/2/2007 5:21 PM
My first post, and I'm probably a clueless newbie, but it goes from OPF to VAB on the crawler?
Lee Jay
They meant the OTS (orbiter transporter system) which was positioned in the OPF this morning.
Mark Kirkman
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Lee Jay - 3/2/2007 6:21 PM
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - Media are invited to witness an important
milestone for the upcoming Space Shuttle Atlantis mission, designated
STS-117. On Wednesday, Feb. 7, Atlantis is scheduled to move from the
Orbiter Processing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center to the
Vehicle Assembly Building. Once there, crews will attach Atlantis to
its external fuel tank and twin solid rocket boosters.
The first motion of the shuttle aboard the crawler-transporter is
expected at 6 a.m. EST. Media must arrive at Kennedy's News Center by
5:15 a.m. to attend the event.
My first post, and I'm probably a clueless newbie, but it goes from OPF to VAB on the crawler?
Lee Jay
No, on the orbiter transporter. Before the OT, it was towed
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Jim - 3/2/2007 4:54 PM
Lee Jay - 3/2/2007 6:21 PM
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - Media are invited to witness an important
milestone for the upcoming Space Shuttle Atlantis mission, designated
STS-117. On Wednesday, Feb. 7, Atlantis is scheduled to move from the
Orbiter Processing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center to the
Vehicle Assembly Building. Once there, crews will attach Atlantis to
its external fuel tank and twin solid rocket boosters.
The first motion of the shuttle aboard the crawler-transporter is
expected at 6 a.m. EST. Media must arrive at Kennedy's News Center by
5:15 a.m. to attend the event.
My first post, and I'm probably a clueless newbie, but it goes from OPF to VAB on the crawler?
Lee Jay
No, on the orbiter transporter. Before the OT, it was towed
Thanks...that makes a whole bunch more sense!
Lee Jay
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Hi all,
Do you know what the spacewalkers are going to do during the third spacewalk? Thanks to http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/currentglance.html#FLIGHTPLAN , I know what they are going to do during the first and second spacewalk, but the third spacewalk is totally unclear to me...
"EV1: H2O/H2 vent valve R&R
EV2: EWIS antenna installation
Stow S3 drag link
EV1: MMOD shield bolt release
EV2: APFR relocation
EAS prep and jettison
Node/Service Module LAN cable routing"
It's hard to imagine (to me) what Reilly and Olivas are going to do during that spacewalk, after having read the lines above... :P I'm sure it's important so I'd like to know more. Can you help me?
Hmm... it's already 1.10 a.m. here... I'll read your answer tomorrow afternoon! :P
Greetings from the Netherlands...!
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Lee Jay - 3/2/2007 5:21 PM
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - Media are invited to witness an important
milestone for the upcoming Space Shuttle Atlantis mission, designated
STS-117. On Wednesday, Feb. 7, Atlantis is scheduled to move from the
Orbiter Processing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center to the
Vehicle Assembly Building. Once there, crews will attach Atlantis to
its external fuel tank and twin solid rocket boosters.
The first motion of the shuttle aboard the crawler-transporter is
expected at 6 a.m. EST. Media must arrive at Kennedy's News Center by
5:15 a.m. to attend the event.
My first post, and I'm probably a clueless newbie, but it goes from OPF to VAB on the crawler?
Lee Jay
Best to read the articles on this site. I'm not sure why Jaques posts the PAO stuff in here as it's very useless info.
The transporter can been seen in the image on the latest article:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5011
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Marijn - 3/2/2007 6:12 PM
Hi all,
Do you know what the spacewalkers are going to do during the third spacewalk? Thanks to http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/currentglance.html#FLIGHTPLAN , I know what they are going to do during the first and second spacewalk, but the third spacewalk is totally unclear to me...
It's hard to imagine (to me) what Reilly and Olivas are going to do during that spacewalk, after having read the lines above... :P I'm sure it's important so I'd like to know more. Can you help me?
Hmm... it's already 1.10 a.m. here... I'll read your answer tomorrow afternoon! :P
Greetings from the Netherlands...!
EVA 1 & 3 is going to be performed by Reilly and Olivas. EVA 2 will be Forrester and Swanson.
Mark Kirkman
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Far Reach - 3/2/2007 6:22 PM
Lee Jay - 3/2/2007 5:21 PM
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - Media are invited to witness an important
milestone for the upcoming Space Shuttle Atlantis mission, designated
STS-117. On Wednesday, Feb. 7, Atlantis is scheduled to move from the
Orbiter Processing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center to the
Vehicle Assembly Building. Once there, crews will attach Atlantis to
its external fuel tank and twin solid rocket boosters.
The first motion of the shuttle aboard the crawler-transporter is
expected at 6 a.m. EST. Media must arrive at Kennedy's News Center by
5:15 a.m. to attend the event.
My first post, and I'm probably a clueless newbie, but it goes from OPF to VAB on the crawler?
Lee Jay
Best to read the articles on this site. I'm not sure why Jaques posts the PAO stuff in here as it's very useless info.
The transporter can been seen in the image on the latest article:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5011
I'm not sure why KSC PAO used the word 'crawler-transporter' in their rollover news release, but they use the crawler for rollout to the pad. For rollover to the VAB from the OPF, the use the Orbiter Transporter, which is basically a flatbed with a cab on the end of it. They used to move it on the landing gear, before they started using the Orbiter Transporter.
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shuttlefan - 3/2/2007 5:37 PM
Far Reach - 3/2/2007 6:22 PM
Lee Jay - 3/2/2007 5:21 PM
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - Media are invited to witness an important
milestone for the upcoming Space Shuttle Atlantis mission, designated
STS-117. On Wednesday, Feb. 7, Atlantis is scheduled to move from the
Orbiter Processing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center to the
Vehicle Assembly Building. Once there, crews will attach Atlantis to
its external fuel tank and twin solid rocket boosters.
The first motion of the shuttle aboard the crawler-transporter is
expected at 6 a.m. EST. Media must arrive at Kennedy's News Center by
5:15 a.m. to attend the event.
My first post, and I'm probably a clueless newbie, but it goes from OPF to VAB on the crawler?
Lee Jay
Best to read the articles on this site. I'm not sure why Jaques posts the PAO stuff in here as it's very useless info.
The transporter can been seen in the image on the latest article:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5011
I'm not sure why KSC PAO used the word 'crawler-transporter' in their rollover news release, but they use the crawler for rollout to the pad. For rollover to the VAB from the OPF, the use the Orbiter Transporter, which is basically a flatbed with a cab on the end of it. They used to move it on the landing gear, before they started using the Orbiter Transporter.
Yeah...I sort of had this image in my head of a crawler, MLP on top entering the front door of the OPF and basically flattening the building. But the crawler path doesn't even go over there, I don't think, so I was about 99% sure this was an error. But I'm a little out-of-touch (hence, why I've started hanging out here) so I wasn't totally sure if I had missed something or not. Turns out PAO had missed something (I'm *sure* that's the first time that's ever happened!).
Lee Jay
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mkirk - 3/2/2007 1:36 AM
Marijn - 3/2/2007 6:12 PM
Hi all,
Do you know what the spacewalkers are going to do during the third spacewalk? Thanks to http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/currentglance.html#FLIGHTPLAN , I know what they are going to do during the first and second spacewalk, but the third spacewalk is totally unclear to me...
It's hard to imagine (to me) what Reilly and Olivas are going to do during that spacewalk, after having read the lines above... :P I'm sure it's important so I'd like to know more. Can you help me?
Hmm... it's already 1.10 a.m. here... I'll read your answer tomorrow afternoon! :P
Greetings from the Netherlands...!
EVA 1 & 3 is going to be performed by Reilly and Olivas. EVA 2 will be Forrester and Swanson.
Mark Kirkman
I know. But WHAT are Reilly and Olivas going to do during the third spacewalk? :o
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The following web page:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts117/mission_overview.html
discusses some of the possible activities during the second and third EVA's.
It all depends on what kind of problems occur when the P4 - 2B Solar Array is retracted.
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Marijn - 4/2/2007 5:00 AM
mkirk - 3/2/2007 1:36 AM
Marijn - 3/2/2007 6:12 PM
Hi all,
Do you know what the spacewalkers are going to do during the third spacewalk? Thanks to http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/currentglance.html#FLIGHTPLAN , I know what they are going to do during the first and second spacewalk, but the third spacewalk is totally unclear to me...
It's hard to imagine (to me) what Reilly and Olivas are going to do during that spacewalk, after having read the lines above... :P I'm sure it's important so I'd like to know more. Can you help me?
Hmm... it's already 1.10 a.m. here... I'll read your answer tomorrow afternoon! :P
Greetings from the Netherlands...!
EVA 1 & 3 is going to be performed by Reilly and Olivas. EVA 2 will be Forrester and Swanson.
Mark Kirkman
I know. But WHAT are Reilly and Olivas going to do during the third spacewalk? :o
Sorry I misread the question.
I don't know what more to tell you than what you copied from Bill Harwood's site. Those are the exact tasks listed in the flight plan and summary EVA timelines. On Feb 20th the media will be briefed by the EVA folks at JSC about exactly what will happen during the EVA and why. By then they will also have finalized which "get ahead tasks" they would like the EVA crew to perform - assuming EVA 1 & 2 go well and no other issue arise.
I am sure you will be able to see the video of the briefing a million times on NASA TV (if you have it or can view it on the web). Most of the space media will cover the EVA details extensively at that time.
Mark Kirkman
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I believe we just got some foreshadowing from PAO Rob Navias during today's stage EVA...he just said that the P6-2B wing retraction would be first attempted on FD6 during the preps for EVA-2. That would allow for EVA assistance during EVA-2 if the wing behaves like the 4B wing did on ISS-12A.1.
As Mark notes, we'll get plenty of details on the current thinking for the mission timelines/procedures during the pre-flight briefings this month.
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mkirk - 4/2/2007 10:34 AM
On Feb 20th the media will be briefed by the EVA folks at JSC about exactly what will happen during the EVA and why.
A quick update: NASA moved up the date of the briefings to February 15. From the NASA TV schedule:
February 15, Thursday
9 a.m. - STS-117 Preflight Program Overview Briefing - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
10:30 a.m. - STS-117 Preflight Mission Overview Briefing - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
12:30 p.m. - STS-117 Preflight Spacewalk Overview Briefing - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
2 p.m. - STS-117 Preflight Crew News Conference - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
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Payload decision today:
(From L2):
Integrated Flow Status (USA/KSC)
OV-104 (STS-117)
· Still working towards rollout on 7th. Tile is still the critical path. Orbiter discussing Chit on ceramic inserts at Noon Board today. Have a lot of work to do, which will get us down to the wire. But, plan right now is to be ready to go to the OPF on Saturday. Will roll at 6:00 a.m. on Wednesday.
· Have had quite a bit of rain at KSC. On Pad A, discovered some water intrusion in the PCR. Looking at that and performing an assessment. On Monday, will make a determination about payload to the pad, which will happen either on 12th or the 18th; will be looking at that over the weekend.
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Two days to rollover! If this occurs on Wednesday, what time will they shoot for? Obviously never set in stone and changes easily but there's usually a target time to haul her out of the OPF and mosy her on over to the VAB.
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nathan.moeller - 5/2/2007 4:19 PM
Two days to rollover! If this occurs on Wednesday, what time will they shoot for? Obviously never set in stone and changes easily but there's usually a target time to haul her out of the OPF and mosy her on over to the VAB.
They are aiming for 6am.
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Thanks Chris. Now I'm hoping it gets delayed a bit now so we can see a pre-dawn/dawn rollover. It would make for a good desktop photo.
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Probably a stupid question, but I have only recently started watching coverage on NASA TV, and I was wondering if the rollout would be on there. I was going to get up a little early to see it, but if not then I will just look at pictures when I get home from school.
Thanks,
Michael
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Usually rollover is not covered by NASA TV. But some footage might be on the gallery later.
btw, you can check all special events covered by NASATV here: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Breaking.html
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Michael22090 - 5/2/2007 4:54 PM
Probably a stupid question, but I have only recently started watching coverage on NASA TV, and I was wondering if the rollout would be on there. I was going to get up a little early to see it, but if not then I will just look at pictures when I get home from school.
Thanks,
Michael
They will show it in the NASA Video File.
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If the rollover occurs during ISS commentary they'll probably air the event. If it occurs during any other program we'll have to wait for video file, gallery and pictures from the KSC media site.
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Still on for 6am? That's 11am UK right? Hope some screenshots can at least be done for this. Stupid NASA TV :(
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From KSC Video feeds: S3/S4 Module has been unvieled as of 8am est! Getting closer to transporting it to Pad A.
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Still hearing all 'go' for rollout tomorrow at 6 AM EST. Waiting for possible stand-up later this afternoon.
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nathan.moeller - 6/2/2007 9:40 AM
Still hearing all 'go' for rollout tomorrow at 6 AM EST. Waiting for possible stand-up later this afternoon.
Nathan, what do you mean by the last sentence, don't understand.....
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shuttlefan - 6/2/2007 6:35 PM
Nathan, what do you mean by the last sentence, don't understand.....
We were hoping to gain a Stand-Up report from KSC for L2 that would most likely include the status of rollover preparations for Atlantis. It didn't happen for whatever reason but we can all wait patiently and see what happens in the morning. :) Sorry to confuse you.
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Waiting to hear of first movement on rollover.
We'll start a new thread from the moment she's in the VAB.
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any news on roll over ??
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jacqmans - 7/2/2007 11:33 AM
any news on roll over ??
Not yet. E-mails and PMs out to those that will know....just a question on who's first to get back to me.
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I'm just in from watching the rollover. Atlantis is in the VAB.
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Pics can be found here:
http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/default.htm
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KSC - 7/2/2007 12:53 PM
Pics can be found here:
http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/default.htm
Wish we knew about that a few hours ago! That's a great site and very useful, thanks! :)
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Wonderful pictures JohnG!!!!
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sorry Chris for not telling earlier, I thought the link is known.
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This really is a smooth flow. No delay at all to rollover and she's in the VAB ready for stacking. Love the pictures John!
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Wow! Great to see this bird again!
Stefan :)
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KSC - 7/2/2007 1:53 PM
Pics can be found here:
http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/default.htm
Seems like camera 2 has stopped updating. Last image is from 12:57 UTC, about half an hour ago.
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Woohoo! Thanks for those pics! Beautiful in the dawn light. Great to see that bird again! :)
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DaveS - 7/2/2007 8:25 AM
KSC - 7/2/2007 1:53 PM
Pics can be found here:
http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/default.htm
Seems like camera 2 has stopped updating. Last image is from 12:57 UTC, about half an hour ago.
Camera 2 is updating again :)
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not sure if this is the right spot.... on the home page story on the rollover you have the mission listed as STS-115.
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FYI, some NASA pictures of the rollover have made their way to the KSC Multimedia Gallery:
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/index.cfm