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Title: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: ChrisGebhardt on 01/03/2018 06:29 PM
Hey all!

So while we don't have a definitive date yet for Falcon Heavy's debut, there's been considerable interest expressed in having an NSF member meet up for dinner/drinks before launch.

So I'm kicking off this thread.

Details will follow once we have a target launch date (including restaurant options and when/with what to contact me so I can make reservations).
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: brihath on 01/03/2018 06:54 PM
I am definitely interested, as long as there are no other conflicts with my schedule.  I live about 15 miles east of Tampa, so it would be about a two hour drive for me.  I will keep checking this thread for developments regarding the scheduled date. 
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: kslagle on 01/03/2018 06:55 PM
Thank you for setting this up.  All I have wanted to do for as long as I can remember is see a launch.  At 47, its time to drop everything and make it happen.  I assume hotels and such fill up quickly, any expert advice on travel logistics?  I get that this will be an expensive, last-second airline ticket at least, but hopefully I will be able to find a rental car and room somewhere?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: jacqmans on 01/03/2018 07:00 PM
Like the Shuttle never went away, a NSF meet-up.... did a few of those from 2008 to 2011, so depending on the launch date you can count me in as well, lets see how old you guys became ;)
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Comga on 01/03/2018 07:13 PM
Thank you for setting this up.  All I have wanted to do for as long as I can remember is see a launch.  At 47, its time to drop everything and make it happen.  I assume hotels and such fill up quickly, any expert advice on travel logistics?  I get that this will be an expensive, last-second airline ticket at least, but hopefully I will be able to find a rental car and room somewhere?

Not a local so no specifics but....

1 Go!  Do it.
2 Be prepared to wait out delays.  Every time I have gone, most of the people have left after the first scrub.  Persist.
3 Unless there are lots of delays, the launch should occur before high season, which is when Spring Breaks start, I believe.  Things shouldn't be that tight for cars and rooms.  There's always something.
4 Get a ticket with frequent flier miles if you can, which can sometimes be turned back in, or on SouthWest, where they can be converted to credit that is good for a whole year from when you first bought them.
5 Don't post.  Don't take photos during launch or landing. (Unless photography is really your thing.) Others will take amazing photos. Just soak it in. Focus on the experience.    Feel the roar of the engines and the sonic booms. (Double triple, with some luck!)
6 Go!  Enjoy.


edit: Will this thread double as an observing tips thread, too?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Space Ghost 1962 on 01/03/2018 07:20 PM
Til end of summer last year I'd think this would have be a totally nuts idea. Expected months to close on a launch once on pad.

But given the more rapid pace of assembly and fit checks ... might happen.

Guess I've assumed that FH would been much like DIVH, which often made Shuttle look like a rapid response vehicle ...
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: ZachS09 on 01/03/2018 07:28 PM
To be honest, it would be cool to participate in this gathering, but as I have a busy semester starting next week, I will be unable to meet up.

But there's a chance that I will view the launch from a different location by myself with a few other Embry-Riddle students.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: mdeep on 01/03/2018 08:06 PM
I know Dixie Crossroads got mentioned a few times, but to help cover the bases, I want to throw Zarrella's in Cape Canaveral out there too.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: posigrade on 01/04/2018 01:49 AM
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5 Don't post.  Don't take photos during launch or landing. (Unless photography is really your thing.) Others will take amazing photos. Just soak it in. Focus on the experience.    Feel the roar of the engines and the sonic booms.

Too true. I went to the totality line in SC for the eclipse this summer, and got some amazing photos. I certainly would have taken it in better if I'd just put down the camera.

Trying to figure out how to get down for the launch, or at least the first few scrubs, but Boston's a hike. Hopefully we'll get a WDR in the next week after Zuma, and some more info.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: MATTBLAK on 01/04/2018 01:52 AM
The launch I want to get together with you guys for is the Lunar Falcon Heavy mission; if and when it happens...
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: jon.amos on 01/04/2018 01:52 AM
Thank you for setting this up.  All I have wanted to do for as long as I can remember is see a launch.  At 47, its time to drop everything and make it happen.  I assume hotels and such fill up quickly, any expert advice on travel logistics?  I get that this will be an expensive, last-second airline ticket at least, but hopefully I will be able to find a rental car and room somewhere?

This is near Orlando, cars, rooms, dining, entertainment to wait out delays and keep non rocket nerd family entertained are plentiful and realiitivly inexpensive.

Count me in if work allows.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: IanThePineapple on 01/04/2018 02:27 AM
I'd absolutely love to join in the fun, but it's quite the trip from PA, and school is important.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: WindnWar on 01/04/2018 03:04 AM
I plan to be there for the launch so count me in, I'll be driving down from SC. Did that a few times for shuttle launches, once made the trip 3 times to see a scrub 2 times before finally seeing a launch. Was a lot of fun!

I've yet to be down for a Falcon launch and landing yet but there is no way I'm going to miss this. Will probably bring the Sony FS5 with me to get the launch in 4k.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: ClayJar on 01/04/2018 12:33 PM
I went to see the last launch of Discovery (and got to see a launch without delays... well, without delays during my trip).  Told work that I'd be back "after", but I *had* to see at least one Shuttle launch in person.  I'm thinking about heading over from Baton Rouge for the Falcon Heavy, but I'll have to play it by ear (currently re-roofing my house by myself, with a few interior walls torn out to add to the fun).  I had 12 weather-scrubbed days in an 18-day Christmas break, so I'm way behind schedule, but then again, maybe I *need* to go, as I've already totally exhausted all my bad luck. ;D

Don't post.  Don't take photos during launch or landing. (Unless photography is really your thing.) Others will take amazing photos. Just soak it in. Focus on the experience.    Feel the roar of the engines and the sonic booms. (Double triple, with some luck!)

I heartily agree with this, but with one small change:  Take one picture.  That's what I did with Discovery, and it feels good to have one objectively worthless but subjectively sentimental photo.  I get to look at all the great shots from everyone else, and there with them is my one "point generally toward the launch and press the button once" shot to show that I was there.  8)
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: mattstep on 01/04/2018 01:51 PM
I am planning on going and would be interested in meeting some folks. My current plan is to drive from Iowa once the static fire is complete and the first attempt date seems relatively firm. Not going to miss this one!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: philw1776 on 01/04/2018 03:44 PM
I'm on FL West coast in winter, so assuming it happens before mid-April, I'd drive over.  Blackout dates for me would be Feb spring break when family comes here to visit.
I've always expected a Feb launch; may well miss that if things go smoothly...end Jan.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: WindnWar on 01/04/2018 04:18 PM
I went to see the last launch of Discovery (and got to see a launch without delays... well, without delays during my trip).  Told work that I'd be back "after", but I *had* to see at least one Shuttle launch in person.  I'm thinking about heading over from Baton Rouge for the Falcon Heavy, but I'll have to play it by ear (currently re-roofing my house by myself, with a few interior walls torn out to add to the fun).  I had 12 weather-scrubbed days in an 18-day Christmas break, so I'm way behind schedule, but then again, maybe I *need* to go, as I've already totally exhausted all my bad luck. ;D

Don't post.  Don't take photos during launch or landing. (Unless photography is really your thing.) Others will take amazing photos. Just soak it in. Focus on the experience.    Feel the roar of the engines and the sonic booms. (Double triple, with some luck!)

I heartily agree with this, but with one small change:  Take one picture.  That's what I did with Discovery, and it feels good to have one objectively worthless but subjectively sentimental photo.  I get to look at all the great shots from everyone else, and there with them is my one "point generally toward the launch and press the button once" shot to show that I was there.  8)

That Discovery launch was the one I saw, it was postponed several times due to various problems with the ET and the day of launch was almost scrubbed due to a range computer issue. It ended up going off with I think 6 seconds left in the launch window. Was worth the multiple trips.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jakusb on 01/04/2018 04:29 PM
I would love to take a short holiday and watch the launch, and of course meet up for dinner.
Little challenge, as I live in Europe and have to book a flight and have to manage it with the family...
As soon as the date gets more firm, I will do my best to figure out a way to be in FL for several days from opening of launch window.
Will be a serious challenge, but if there is any chance I will take it.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: tdrb6115 on 01/04/2018 04:49 PM
I would love to take a short holiday and watch the launch, and of course meet up for dinner.
Little challenge, as I live in Europe and have to book a flight and have to manage it with the family...
As soon as the date gets more firm, I will do my best to figure out a way to be in FL for several days from opening of launch window.
Will be a serious challenge, but if there is any chance I will take it.
I thought I can resist but right now I am not sure at all, it is a bit of a challenge to get there from central Europe but should be worth it
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: laszlo on 01/04/2018 05:05 PM
Put an HD digital video cam (preferably with a good telephoto) on a tripod. Aim at the pad and flight path. Make sure you have a large empty SD card. When they start fueling, start the camera and watch the show with eyeballs (and maybe binoculars). After the show, pick through your thousands of frames of photos and find the good one.

Have fun guys.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: cscott on 01/04/2018 05:33 PM
I've got good seats for the STP-2 mission, thanks to the light sail Kickstarter... But I'm still considering packing up at short notice and trying to see this inaugural launch.  We'll see how work and family responsibilities and airfares work out when the launch draws nigh.

I might be bad luck, though---the last launch-and-NSF-meetup I attended was for SES-9 in Feb 2016 and I managed to pay KSC $$$ for two scrubs in a row.  I'm thinking the public beach near jetty park would be the right thing this time; it should have a great view of the dual landing.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: sghill on 01/04/2018 05:46 PM
I plan on being there for the launch (assuming it doesn't slide over and over).

I guess we need to know an approximate launch time to determine a restaurant meet up, or other location for the actual launch.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Paul Adams on 01/04/2018 05:53 PM
How many do you think might attend - I might have a very interesting solution!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: spacenut on 01/04/2018 06:04 PM
I'm interested.  I live in East Alabama, and it is about a 8-10 hour drive.  I'm retired, so no problem with timing.  Was planning on a winter vacation sometime around mid-January anyway. 

Would like to know more concrete times, so I or all of us can get hotel/motel arrangements. 
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: cscott on 01/04/2018 06:21 PM
Generally I'd suggest Fishlips for a meetup location. The ASDS and support navy ought to be out at sea, but it's pretty close to SpaceX launch & landing control, so folks could nip over for a visit.

There's not a core erected outside the LCC yet, is there?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: wes_wilson on 01/04/2018 07:09 PM
Interested.  I live in Tampa and plan to drive over to see it assuming I'm not traveling for work when the date gets firmed up.

Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Michael Baylor on 01/06/2018 03:05 AM
I'm thinking the public beach near jetty park would be the right thing this time; it should have a great view of the dual landing.
For any NSFers without media credentials, I recommend this site: https://www.google.com/maps/@28.4154883,-80.623802,16.47z

You will have a clear unobstructed view of the pad and a better view of the landing. You want to see the pad for this launch. Due to the high risk, it will be nerve wracking watching it (hopefully) clear the FSS.

Additionally, because the road is elevated above the water, you should be able to see the top half of each stage after landing.

The only drawback is that it technically says "no parking." I am not aware of there ever being any issues. But, if you don't want to risk it just park at the port and Uber the rest of the way.

The only spot that could be better is if KSC offers some additional viewing locations. The NASA Causeway would be amazing. It splits the distance between pad and landing zones. However, it's typically not open to the public. That being said, this is the most exciting launch at KSC since the final Shuttle mission, so they might add some additional viewing locations. Keep an eye out!

As for me, unfortunately I won't be able to attend anything. I was going to fly in for the launch, but due to the delay it will take place while I am at college. I am very jealous of all of you.  >:(
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CyndyC on 01/06/2018 04:55 PM
Will it be considered acceptable if in the middle of any technical discussions someone pulls out his or her phone and Googles some or all of what was just said, instead of or before contributing to the discussion? I'm sure some of the most knowledgeable people here are dependent on Google occasionally, but probably not as often or as much as some others. I'm asking for a friend  ;)
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Comga on 01/07/2018 02:31 PM
Can anyone here say if Kars Park is open to the public?
Streetview doesn't show any gates or signs that limit driving at least to the gate.
This was the official launch viewing site for New Horizons.
It is decently close to both LC-40 and LZ-1 with pretty clear lines of sight.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: cscott on 01/07/2018 03:16 PM
Will it be considered acceptable if in the middle of any technical discussions someone pulls out his or her phone and Googles some or all of what was just said, instead of or before contributing to the discussion? I'm sure some of the most knowledgeable people here are dependent on Google occasionally, but probably not as often or as much as some others. I'm asking for a friend  ;)
Certainly!  A little thought before speaking is always appreciated.  I've always appreciated that forums allow a slightly better ratio of thought to speech. It would a shame if a face-to-face meetup eroded that ratio.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: visionik on 01/08/2018 02:38 PM
Count me in.  I live in Orlando.

I also have two 80 amp Tesla chargers and one 40 amp on-site if any Tesla owners drive down and need some charging.

-J
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: mike robel on 01/08/2018 03:38 PM
I live on Merritt Island, so I will be going meet up or no.  I'd be glad to get together with anyone who gets down here.

KARS Park is not open to the Public. 
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Lar on 01/08/2018 06:46 PM
I was hoping to catch something when I was down there over NYE, but all I caught was a cold. I am looking at how to make it happen...
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: ChrisGebhardt on 01/08/2018 06:57 PM
How many do you think might attend - I might have a very interesting solution!


I honestly have no idea.  I plan to put out the formal call for "Let me know who's coming and how many in your group" once Static Fire is done and we have a target launch date.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: C5C6 on 01/08/2018 07:17 PM
Count me in!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: TrueBlueWitt on 01/08/2018 07:26 PM
I'm going to try to make it down for this one, have to check flight options once timeline firms up.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: GORDAP on 01/08/2018 08:22 PM
I'll probably try to come over from the FL west coast, if/when it looks like a launch is actually probable that day.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: philw1776 on 01/08/2018 11:00 PM
I'll probably try to come over from the FL west coast, if/when it looks like a launch is actually probable that day.

Yup. I'm just south of Tamper and will go unless it's the days my family visits.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jim on 01/09/2018 12:16 AM
I know Dixie Crossroads got mentioned a few times, but to help cover the bases, I want to throw Zarrella's in Cape Canaveral out there too.

neither of those please.  There are some better places.  After all, this is not space hipbreakers.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jim on 01/09/2018 12:17 AM
All in
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Lar on 01/09/2018 12:51 AM
I know Dixie Crossroads got mentioned a few times, but to help cover the bases, I want to throw Zarrella's in Cape Canaveral out there too.

neither of those please.  There are some better places.  After all, this is not space hipbreakers.
At first I read that as Space Hipsters (the FB group) but now I am just wondering what you mean... slippery floors? A lot of bar fights?

I rather liked Rising Tide, which was Marek C's suggestion when we got together last week...
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Orbiter on 01/09/2018 01:14 AM
I know a few locations, don't know if they're any good for a meetup. Are we looking to stay close to Port Canaveral?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: DigitalMan on 01/09/2018 02:42 AM
Count me in too
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Comga on 01/09/2018 02:50 AM
I know Dixie Crossroads got mentioned a few times, but to help cover the bases, I want to throw Zarrella's in Cape Canaveral out there too.

neither of those please.  There are some better places.  After all, this is not space hipbreakers.
At first I read that as Space Hipsters (the FB group) but now I am just wondering what you mean... slippery floors? A lot of bar fights?

I rather liked Rising Tide, which was Marek C's suggestion when we got together last week...

Lar?   ::)
Hipbreakers?  ???
As in the crowd for whom that is the most likely failure mode and biggest worry?  :o
"Senectitude"  :)

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Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CeeJayDugan on 01/10/2018 04:30 AM
I am so glad I found this discussion! I am planning on coming down to watch the launch with my old man. When I was a kid I found a book of his called "Footsteps on the Moon" on a book shelf and I've been hooked on space ever since. Been looking forward to this rocket ever since it was announced. We would be coming in from Chicago and don't know anyone in the area. I was hoping some NSF folks might be up for a gathering. Count us in for any pre/post launch festivities! I'll keep tabs on this thread and look forward to whatever shakes out.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Lostmojo on 01/10/2018 06:07 AM
Wish I could be there, too bad I live on the other side of the planet from where FH launches.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 01/10/2018 04:26 PM
I will be there unless it slips a lot and my work project doesn't. I live in Orlando so it is an easy trip. If we have people coming into OIA (MCO) I can suggest hotels, restaurants, meetup locations, etc. as I live just a few miles away. Might be open to carpooling some people too, but I have to find out if my car is already full of local fans.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: mdeep on 01/10/2018 07:36 PM
Really everything in Port Canaveral is a safe bet.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CeeJayDugan on 01/10/2018 07:46 PM
i've never been to the cape. What would those of you who have been there say is the closest and most optimal public place to catch a launch and landing?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Lars-J on 01/10/2018 08:32 PM
i've never been to the cape. What would those of you who have been there say is the closest and most optimal public place to catch a launch and landing?

This is the ultimate resource:
http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html

Port Canaveral/Cocoa Beach is going to be your best bet if you want to catch the landing. The best spot to catch both launch and landing appears to be just off Rt 401, just outside the air force base gates and across the street from SpaceX launch control, HERE (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Port+Canaveral,+FL+32920/@28.4186654,-80.6077067,806m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x88e0a51fcbf224e5:0x35b999228a1480c1!8m2!3d28.4103506!4d-80.6188156?hl=en)
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: leetdan on 01/10/2018 09:10 PM
I think the secret's out about 401, it's going to be absolutely slammed come FH time.  I haven't been by in awhile -- last time I was there it looked like they were adding fill, as if they were going to widen the shoulder.  Carpooling wouldn't be a bad idea either way.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CeeJayDugan on 01/10/2018 09:47 PM
After flying around Google Earth a bit I found that 401 location is clearly labeled "ROCKET LAUNCH VIEWING"! So, yea I agree with you that it will probably be a mob scene around there. But if it is a public area and the best place to take it all in might be worth the hassle.

Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Michael Baylor on 01/11/2018 02:52 AM
After flying around Google Earth a bit I found that 401 location is clearly labeled "ROCKET LAUNCH VIEWING"! So, yea I agree with you that it will probably be a mob scene around there. But if it is a public area and the best place to take it all in might be worth the hassle.
Further west along the road is the best. If you are just before the curve, you will be able to see the stop of stage one after it lands.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Ike17055 on 01/11/2018 04:31 AM
Is it safe to assume Exploration Tower is not an option?

Btw, I just got back from 10-day holiday vacation at Cape and missed the FH on the pad by about one hour. I am prepped to fly back down from PA once a date is set, assuming I can book flight without trouble.  If there is a get-together, I would certainly enjoy attending.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Lars-J on 01/11/2018 04:51 AM
Is it safe to assume Exploration Tower is not an option?

Btw, I just got back from 10-day holiday vacation at Cape and missed the FH on the pad by about one hour. I am prepped to fly back down from PA once a date is set, assuming I can book flight without trouble.  If there is a get-together, I would certainly enjoy attending.

You might want to book a trip for a week or so (if you can), once the first launch date is announced. Arrive the day before, and then you have several days there in the likely situation that the launch could slip several days.

I'm personally going to be in Orlando for two days in early February for a business trip, I might get lucky. :D But I don't have an option to stay longer, gotta get back to work.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 01/12/2018 06:07 PM
Is it safe to assume Exploration Tower is not an option?

Btw, I just got back from 10-day holiday vacation at Cape and missed the FH on the pad by about one hour. I am prepped to fly back down from PA once a date is set, assuming I can book flight without trouble.  If there is a get-together, I would certainly enjoy attending.

I've not tried out exploration tower yet, but on google earth it appears that there is a silo directly between it and the landing pad so you might not be able to actually see the stage touch down. That, and it has limited space so I'm not sure how the crowds will work out.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 01/12/2018 06:12 PM
How is the landing from the Jetty Park Pier? Looks good on maps but having been to the park it is pretty low compared to the surrounding land but I've never gone out onto the pier.

I usually go to 401, but as others have noted, it has been getting pretty packed just for regular F9 launches. There are some dirt mounds by the road that I used to climb up, but now I get yelled at by sheriffs when I do that. There aren't any signs saying I can't, but whatever.

So for FH I'll probably go the Pier for a good landing view, or to Playalinda to hear the rumble of that beast (will probably wear clothes though). Or if there is a meetup somewhere I might go see some of you usernames in real life.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Lars-J on 01/13/2018 03:40 AM
How is the landing from the Jetty Park Pier? Looks good on maps but having been to the park it is pretty low compared to the surrounding land but I've never gone out onto the pier.

I usually go to 401, but as others have noted, it has been getting pretty packed just for regular F9 launches. There are some dirt mounds by the road that I used to climb up, but now I get yelled at by sheriffs when I do that. There aren't any signs saying I can't, but whatever.

So for FH I'll probably go the Pier for a good landing view, or to Playalinda to hear the rumble of that beast (will probably wear clothes though). Or if there is a meetup somewhere I might go see some of you usernames in real life.

I've never seen a landing in person, but Jetty Park seems to have a pretty good view...

Image 1 source: https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/6tny4a/hold_onto_your_hats_falcon_9_landing_from_jetty/
Image 2 source: https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/7k0jni/launched_and_landed_falcon_9_and_dragon_each_fly/

You might have a more unobstructed view by being slightly south of the pier on the beach, as picture 2 shows. (looks like it is halfway between jetty park and the Cocoa beach pier)
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: TripD on 01/13/2018 05:21 PM
That 2nd pic seems amazingly close!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Lars-J on 01/13/2018 08:16 PM
That 2nd pic seems amazingly close!

It wouldn’t look anywhere close like that in real life. It must have been taken with a pretty strong telephoto lens - probably ~300mm+, which makes things look a lot closer than in real life.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: cscott on 01/16/2018 02:01 PM
I suspect the photographer was pretty far up and back on the beach as well, to put enough distance between himself and the beachgoers that he could get them both in the same perspective-compressed shot.  A great shot by a news-agency photographer looking to put a human-interest shot on the front page.  The amateur photographers and non-camera-wielding viewers appear to be crammed up on the shoreline, where they might get slightly more pixels on their sesnors/retinas but no context to their shots.

I'm thinking that the difference in the tree line, making the landing site less obstructed, is actually due to the photographer being back and up (a dune?) on the beach.  If you're right at the water's edge, your altitude would be in fact a few feet *less* than on the jetty further north, and so the treeline would probably appear similar.

There's a rooftop viewing location at jetty park; it might be worth watching from there rather than trying to cram onto the pier to be a few hundred feet closer.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Comga on 01/16/2018 05:05 PM
That 2nd pic seems amazingly close!

It wouldn’t look anywhere close like that in real life. It must have been taken with a pretty strong telephoto lens - probably ~300mm+, which makes things look a lot closer than in real life.

From a  link on the Reddit page (https://www.google.com/maps/place/28%C2%B024'23.3%22N+80%C2%B035'26.5%22W/@28.4064722,-80.5914162,362m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d28.4064745!4d-80.5906816), it's just down the beach from the pier at Jetty Park.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Lars-J on 01/16/2018 05:58 PM
That 2nd pic seems amazingly close!

It wouldn’t look anywhere close like that in real life. It must have been taken with a pretty strong telephoto lens - probably ~300mm+, which makes things look a lot closer than in real life.

From a  link on the Reddit page (https://www.google.com/maps/place/28%C2%B024'23.3%22N+80%C2%B035'26.5%22W/@28.4064722,-80.5914162,362m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d28.4064745!4d-80.5906816), it's just down the beach from the pier at Jetty Park.

Keep reading the reddit thread, a bit down the photographer corrects him that he was further south, below Cherie Down Park.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: mike robel on 01/17/2018 01:01 AM
I will probably watch the launch/landing from along the SR 528 Causeway on Merritt Island at the North Banana River Exit.  (first picture)  The Causeway is circled in yellow (you can get off the road at several places by just driving off onto the shoulder.  You will see cars parked all along the way.  Its best to not stop on the road, but it happens a lot.  There are some places by the bridge abutments you can park.  Its about 20 km to the pad.

An excellent alternative spot is on Cape Canaveral from the beach in the vicinity of Cherry Down Park (second picture - circled in black).  Be careful where you park, the Canaveral Police are sometimes pretty aggressive.  Since school is in session, best not to park in the school.  It is not so good for the lift off from 39B (but it did offer excellent views of Delta II Launches) and it has a nice view of the whole cape for the landing.  (Third Picture.)  It is further away of course than Jetty Park, but you do get a nice view.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: FluffyFreak on 01/25/2018 02:23 PM
A friend and I are hoping to get to the launch, and hopefully see it from KSC.

However we're from the UK and you require a domestic US address to book tickets online, still hope that we'll get through in the end.

It'd be nice to meetup with people whilst we're over.

Andy
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: billh on 01/25/2018 02:25 PM
Bought my tickets this morning for the Apollo/Saturn V Center viewing area through the KSC Visitor Center (3.9 miles from the pad). Expensive, but I figure we'll be flying in from across the country so "in for a penny, in for a pound". I wasn't sure whether I wanted to be closer to the launch or the landing until I heard the rumble from the static fire yesterday. That sealed the deal!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Orbiter on 01/25/2018 02:35 PM
I didn't see a viewing thread, Playalinda Beach appears to have been open for the STF yesterday... open for the launch, too?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CeeJayDugan on 01/25/2018 02:51 PM
I just bought tickets for the Saturn V viewing. I echo earlier sentiments that if i'm going to fly half way across the country I might as well (hopefully) get a good look at liftoff! And I have never been to KSC so the admission ticket is something i would have bought anyway. This is starting to feel very real! Looking forward to meeting other NSF members!

Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: sghill on 01/25/2018 03:27 PM
Is it safe to assume Exploration Tower is not an option?

Exploration Tower is not selling launch viewing tickets ($15 per person) yet for the FH launch. They are still selling tickets for the F9 launch on the 30th. Watch their site for FH tickets to go on sale: http://explorationtower.reserveorlando.com/da/vip-launch-viewing-exploration-tower-port-canaveral#!#return

I've been on the balcony at the tower. Not only is it a good launch viewing spot (despite the distance), it's probably the best spot for watching a landing you can get without being in a helicopter. Plus they have great bathrooms, you can get indoors if the weather turns yucky or cold, they have a nice little space museum, and you can walk across the street to get food if there are delays.

See you guys on the rooftop at Fishlips for drinks during those inevitable delays.

For the record, I do not like watching launches from the beach or the jetty. The view stinks. Here's a photo of the Orion test launch (and my daughters) from the beach with 2X zoom- and that launch was muuuuuuuch closer than Pad 39. The landings will be pretty close for beach viewers, but the tower will have a superb view of landings all the way to the pad- as does Rt. 401.



Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: FluffyFreak on 01/25/2018 03:36 PM
Exploration Tower is not selling launch viewing tickets ($15 per person) yet for the FH launch. They are still selling tickets for the F9 launch on the 30th. Watch their site for FH tickets to go on sale: http://explorationtower.reserveorlando.com/da/vip-launch-viewing-exploration-tower-port-canaveral#!#return

I've been on the balcony at the tower. Not only is it a good launch viewing spot (despite the distance), it's probably the best spot for watching a landing you can get without being in a helicopter. Plus they have great bathrooms, you can get indoors if the weather turns yucky or cold, they have a nice little space museum, and you can walk across the street to get food if there are delays.

See you guys on the rooftop at Fishlips for drinks during those inevitable delays.

For the record, I do not like watching launches from the beach or the jetty. The view stinks. Here's a photo of the Orion test launch (and my daughters) from the beach with 2X zoom- and that launch was muuuuuuuch closer than Pad 39. The landings will be pretty close for beach viewers, but the tower will have a superb view of landings all the way to the pad- as does Rt. 401.

Thanks for the info, been phoning every 5 minutes since 2pm (now 4:35pm here) without getting through to reservations for KSC, so having backup options for seeing the launch is a good idea for us! ;D
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Swoopert on 01/25/2018 04:39 PM
A friend and I are hoping to get to the launch, and hopefully see it from KSC.

However we're from the UK and you require a domestic US address to book tickets online, still hope that we'll get through in the end.

It'd be nice to meetup with people whilst we're over.

Andy

I'm looking to make the same journey (from the UK), and came up against the same issue...let me know if you get around it!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: c on 01/25/2018 04:55 PM
RE: KSC launch packages for Falcon Heavy require US street address

KSC will be shipping launch package materials via USPS (US Postal Service). Therefore a US street address is needed (no international, no po boxes, etc).

If any international NSF members need a US street address to receive their launch package, feel free to PM me and I can help you out. I am semi-local to KSC and plan to be at KSC for several days around the launch.

Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: FluffyFreak on 01/25/2018 05:21 PM
After 43 minutes on the phone to KSC (40 on hold, 3 on call :D) it seems that this is something of a problem for booking from overseas locations.

If you have a hotel booked already then they can post the packs there.
Alternatively they suggested that I might be able to phone FedEx and arrange something... though they could not elaborate what.

My suggestion at this point is that if you're not in the USA, and do not have a hotel or other accommodation booked, then you'll need a friend/volunteer to help out by holding onto tickets etc for you.

Andy

PS: My apologies, this appears to have derailed the meetup thread.
Could/Should it be moved to another thread for non-US visitors hoping to attend the inaugural flight?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: starhawk92 on 01/25/2018 05:33 PM
The last time I saw a launch was a Shuttle from 39A (far too) many moons ago.  We drove over from the gulf side and parked along Highway 1 across from the cape.

Can anyone compare this to the other suggested sites?  I parked there because there were tons of cars already waiting hours and hours beforehand.

Can't wait for a more firm date to plan for!!

Can I request a FishLips rooftop success happy-several-hours party afterwards???
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: kerrycockram on 01/25/2018 07:25 PM
LaunchPhotography (http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html) has pictures and video from several viewing spots. 

I decided on the Sat V building site for my tripod and me ;D
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: FluffyFreak on 01/25/2018 07:27 PM
Thanks to some very kind assistance (I'll let them identify themselves if they choose) we've gotten around the booking problem!

There will be at least 2 Brits in attendance for the meetup, and one is called Chris (not me) so you'll all be able to remember at least one of our names ;D Looking forward too it.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: ChrisGebhardt on 01/25/2018 07:47 PM
Update from me, the person coordinating our meetup ;D:

Excellent to see so much interest for this launch.  In the coming days, once a launch date is public, we'll start the process of really planning this.  I'll have a couple people helping me plan and organize -- as I'll be busy in the days leading up to the launch.

Keep discussing options for now, and hang tight; we'll start the actual planning for this and have details for you all soon!

- Chris G.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: The_Ronin on 01/25/2018 07:53 PM
I'm coming down with my oldest kiddo.  I am torn between Playalinda to see the launch or closer to Port Canaveral to see the landing.  Decisions decisions...

I would love to meet and watch with other NSFers, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CeeJayDugan on 01/25/2018 08:05 PM
Since it seems people will be spread out at different launch locations it would be cool to maybe have an official "NSF Meetup Bar" or something that can serve as a reliable venue for NSF junkies to hang out at at the end of the day or in the event of scrubs.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: ChrisGebhardt on 01/25/2018 08:12 PM
Note about Playalinda Beach for Falcon Heavy's launch:

Playalinda was telling folks yesterday that they have not been told what their plan is for this launch yet or whether for safety reasons they'll have to close for the launch.

They'll know in the next few days, they said.  So definitely have a back up viewing location in mind in case they are closed.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: mike robel on 01/25/2018 08:15 PM
I expect Playlinda would be closed for a lift off from 39B.  It was for Shuttle, was it not?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 01/25/2018 08:55 PM
I expect Playlinda would be closed for a lift off from 39B.  It was for Shuttle, was it not?

There won't be a launch from 39B for a while. 39A is the SpaceX pad and is further from Playalinda.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Wolfram66 on 01/25/2018 09:07 PM
After flying around Google Earth a bit I found that 401 location is clearly labeled "ROCKET LAUNCH VIEWING"! So, yea I agree with you that it will probably be a mob scene around there. But if it is a public area and the best place to take it all in might be worth the hassle.

Just outside the entrance to CCAFB is the public rocket viewing site. There is parking as well as bleachers to sit on. Also it is almost directly across the street from SpaceX launch control and USAF Canaveral rocket museum.
Here is my pics from this site of MUOS 4 on Atlas V 551. Image 2 has captured the 5 SRM's just after separation
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jim on 01/25/2018 11:48 PM
Everybody is talking about viewing

What about the meet up?

Throwing this out.  The night before,6pm at Fishlips upper deck outside the bar near the elevator
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: sghill on 01/25/2018 11:54 PM
Everybody is talking about viewing

What about the meet up?

Throwing this out.  The night before,6pm at Fishlips upper deck outside the bar near the elevator

Wrong!

No wait, Right!

We'll be there!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: JohnR on 01/26/2018 12:14 AM
I see a few others in the thread stating they got Saturn V Center tickets. Mini NSF meet up there? New topic?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: billh on 01/26/2018 12:50 AM
I see a few others in the thread stating they got Saturn V Center tickets. Mini NSF meet up there? New topic?
Yes. Seems we should at least share a toast with our commemorative champagne flutes! :D  But I still want to attend whatever larger meetup is organized.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: mike robel on 01/26/2018 01:08 AM
I expect Playlinda would be closed for a lift off from 39B.  It was for Shuttle, was it not?

There won't be a launch from 39B for a while. 39A is the SpaceX pad and is further from Playalinda.

Ack.  You are right, but I _really_ think Playlinda was closed for a all Shuttle launches.  Maybe 39A is now far enough away though.  Perhaps Jim would know the real deal?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Orbiter on 01/26/2018 04:10 PM
Playalinda Beach has been open for most F9 LC-39A launches and was open for the Falcon Heavy static test firing.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: The_Ronin on 01/26/2018 07:48 PM
After discussion with the kiddo, she decided being closer to the landing is where she wants to be.  So, I've booked my room right by the Exploration Tower.  How is the view of launch/landing from there?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jakusb on 01/26/2018 08:10 PM
Ok, I just took a chance and booked a flight to be there 6-9th leaving 10th, so 2 day slack.
And if it slips more I will try to figure it out then and there.
Looking forward meeting you all!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Harder on 01/26/2018 09:54 PM
I’m also looking forward to meet NSF members at Fishlips. Just booked a flexible ticket from Amsterdam and in the most ideal scenario we can have a second round of beers at Fishlips when OCISLY shows up with a duly toasted central core, medium done or overcooked –that we cannot yet predict I suppose.
On my way…
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Ionmars on 01/26/2018 11:28 PM
Went down to the launchpad for 'Heavy,
With 27 engines all revvy;
To see what she's  wearing
Peeked under her fairing;
Twas not a Tesla but Chevy!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: mike robel on 01/27/2018 12:10 AM
Playalinda Beach has been open for most F9 LC-39A launches and was open for the Falcon Heavy static test firing.

Thanks for this.  I had no idea. 
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: IntoTheVoid on 01/27/2018 12:14 AM
Went down to the launchpad for 'Heavy,
With 27 engines all revvy;
To see what she's  wearing
Peeked under her fairing;
Twas not a Tesla but Chevy!

Maybe it's a Tesla Chevy like this one...

Pic that I  took yesterday.  :D
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Craig_VG on 01/27/2018 12:20 AM
I'll be coming to the meet-up as well!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: posigrade on 01/27/2018 10:11 PM
Some NSF members should split an AirBnb house. That's usually a great way to save. Personally, I just booked a private AirBnB room for the week, for less than a single hotel room night. That might be helpful to some of the starving students planning on making this trip.

After all, wasted all my money on that Feel the Heat champagne toast.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: billh on 01/27/2018 11:01 PM
So, Jim has spoken! Is it Fishlips, then? Any particular time?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: R.Simko on 01/28/2018 01:00 AM
i've never been to the cape. What would those of you who have been there say is the closest and most optimal public place to catch a launch and landing?

This is the ultimate resource:
http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html

Port Canaveral/Cocoa Beach is going to be your best bet if you want to catch the landing. The best spot to catch both launch and landing appears to be just off Rt 401, just outside the air force base gates and across the street from SpaceX launch control, HERE (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Port+Canaveral,+FL+32920/@28.4186654,-80.6077067,806m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x88e0a51fcbf224e5:0x35b999228a1480c1!8m2!3d28.4103506!4d-80.6188156?hl=en)

Thanks for the info. Is there a phone number that you can give me, to order tickets for the visitor center?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: JohnR on 01/28/2018 01:04 AM
Thanks for the info. Is there a phone number that you can give me, to order tickets for the visitor center?

https://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/launches-and-events/events-calendar/2018/february/rocket-launch-spacex-falcon-heavy
Phone Number: (855) 433-4210
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: cscott on 01/28/2018 01:12 AM
So, Jim has spoken! Is it Fishlips, then? Any particular time?
6pm:



Throwing this out.  The night before,6pm at Fishlips upper deck outside the bar near the elevator

Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: mdeep on 01/28/2018 02:43 AM
I'm interested, but need to see the media schedule before committing to anything.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jakusb on 01/28/2018 09:50 AM
So, Jim has spoken! Is it Fishlips, then? Any particular time?
6pm:



Throwing this out.  The night before,6pm at Fishlips upper deck outside the bar near the elevator

Hmm. I will be landing near midnight on 5th/6th at Orlando airport, so that would make me miss the party after all.. 🤦🏼‍♂️
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 01/29/2018 12:26 AM
Anyone know how to sail and navigate well enough to not cause a scrub?

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/9380296?location=Cape%20Canaveral%2C%20FL%2C%20United%20States&check_in=2018-02-06&check_out=2018-02-09&s=ZYjA_WB3
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: IanThePineapple on 01/29/2018 01:47 AM
Anyone know how to sail and navigate well enough to not cause a scrub?

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/9380296?location=Cape%20Canaveral%2C%20FL%2C%20United%20States&check_in=2018-02-06&check_out=2018-02-09&s=ZYjA_WB3

So either you get great view of the launch or be hated by everyone in the spaceflight community.  ;D
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: spacenut on 01/29/2018 08:12 PM
Ok, so is it firm, Fishlips at 6pm the night before?  Need to make plans and obtain hotel reservations. 
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CeeJayDugan on 01/29/2018 09:25 PM
My Dad and I are planning on flying in on the 5th so we're happy to meet up at Fishlips that night with whoever shows up. Definitely gonna need a cold beer after a long day of travel! :D
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jakusb on 01/29/2018 11:22 PM
So, I am freaking out a little bit, mo worries, just a little bit,  it still.
I am arriving Jan 5th midnight onto 6th. So 13 hours before first launch attempt.
KSC is sold out. Exploration Tower is not yet selling. I do not yet have a car and clearly unfamiliar there anyway.
I guess waaiers seems to try and get a ticket for Exploration Tower. Or would it be possible to get somewhere strategically in middle on public road without a car?
I plan to go as early as possible. Maybe even leaving from my Orlando hotel around 0800.

Any help and or suggestions welcome and much appreciated. This is my bucket list item and do not want to mess it up after flying halfway across the world to experience it.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 01/29/2018 11:29 PM
So, I am freaking out a little bit, mo worries, just a little bit,  it still.
I am arriving Jan 5th midnight onto 6th. So 13 hours before first launch attempt.
KSC is sold out. Exploration Tower is not yet selling. I do not yet have a car and clearly unfamiliar there anyway.
I guess waaiers seems to try and get a ticket for Exploration Tower. Or would it be possible to get somewhere strategically in middle on public road without a car?
I plan to go as early as possible. Maybe even leaving from my Orlando hotel around 0800.

Any help and or suggestions welcome and much appreciated. This is my bucket list item and do not want to mess it up after flying halfway across the world to experience it.

I think my plan at the moment is to go to Jetty park and watch from the Fishlips Pavilion deck. That is about as close to the landing pad as you can get though it will be about 14 miles from the launch site. The same distance as exploration tower. They only charge for parking so if you have an Uber drop you off at the gate you could walk in for free (I'm pretty sure, bring cash just in case). Otherwise, anywhere along the 528 overpass, or along the 401 behind the cruise terminal will be great, as would the beach in Cape Canaveral.

If you get stuck, message me or some of the other people here, I'm sure we can work out a way to meet up and stick together. Good luck!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: mike robel on 01/30/2018 12:16 AM
So, I am freaking out a little bit, mo worries, just a little bit,  it still.
I am arriving Jan 5th midnight onto 6th. So 13 hours before first launch attempt.
KSC is sold out. Exploration Tower is not yet selling. I do not yet have a car and clearly unfamiliar there anyway. (http://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji1.png)(http://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji85.png)
I guess waaiers seems to try and get a ticket for Exploration Tower. Or would it be possible to get somewhere strategically in middle on public road without a car? (http://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji16.png)
I plan to go as early as possible. Maybe even leaving from my Orlando hotel around 0800.

Any help and or suggestions welcome and much appreciated. This is my bucket list item and do not want to mess it up after flying halfway across the world to experience it. (http://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji6.png)

If you get a car, get on State Road 528 heading toward Cocoa, Cocoa Beach, The Space Center.  When you go through Cocoa, you come to Merritt Island.  Get off on the North Banana River Road exit (exit right).  Come to the stop sign.  Turn Left.  You will go across the exit and to your left front you will see an open field where you can.  On the other side of the road, there is a dirt road which you can walk (or drive) down which goes to the Bridge.  Set up there, face north and you will be able to see the pad across the river, projecting above the trees.  That's where I go and that's where I send people from out of town who don't know the area.


The first photo shows how to get to the viewing area I use (been using it since Apollo 7) and the second shows where to look.  I can't really be more precise about the place to look for the landing because they surprise the crap out of me every time I watch.


Hope this helps.

Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CyndyC on 01/30/2018 01:41 AM
The idea of meeting the night before started so Chris Gebhardt could organize something and be involved since he won't be free the day of the launch as a journalist. Several days ago he posted he's still planning something, but suggested we keep talking and he'll update us when the launch date is better known, presumably after GovSat/SES.

Jakusb and probably some others won't arrive in time for 6pm the night before, and then there is the crowd who will be watching the launch from the Visitor Complex and might be staying where they are the following evening, but the rest of us might also want to be planning to meet again after the launch since it will be over relatively early. Maybe back at Fishlips? Hopefully that would be to celebrate together and analyze the success, and we're definitely going to need each other and want to analyze if there's an anomaly.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: AUricle on 01/30/2018 03:52 AM
As far as a viewing spot goes.....what will the noisiest spot be ?
I'd like to experience the rumble, crackle, ground shaking and the sonic booms if at all possible.
This'll be my first 'dance'.............and is a definite bucket list item!
Probably driving down from Chicago 'burbs.
I'll find Fishlips for the pre-party for sure......and post party too!!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: mike robel on 01/30/2018 06:45 AM
Depends on the weather and the wind direction.  Anyplace with a view can be good for the noise.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: OnWithTheShow on 01/30/2018 01:08 PM
So the stars are aligning and it looks like this may be a real possibility. Airfare is dirt cheap right now but I'm hesitant to pull the trigger this far out. BUT if I wait the airfare MAY skyrocket... Wait til GovSat gets off the ground?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 01/30/2018 02:54 PM
As far as a viewing spot goes.....what will the noisiest spot be ?
I'd like to experience the rumble, crackle, ground shaking and the sonic booms if at all possible.
This'll be my first 'dance'.............and is a definite bucket list item!
Probably driving down from Chicago 'burbs.
I'll find Fishlips for the pre-party for sure......and post party too!!

For public spots Playalinda beach will be the closest to the launch pad and so best for noise. Remember though that with this level of power and distance, being twice as far away will make 3db difference, so not very much. As said above, anywhere within 20 miles will get a great show.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: deruch on 01/30/2018 08:13 PM
As far as a viewing spot goes.....what will the noisiest spot be ?
I'd like to experience the rumble, crackle, ground shaking and the sonic booms if at all possible.
This'll be my first 'dance'.............and is a definite bucket list item!
Probably driving down from Chicago 'burbs.
I'll find Fishlips for the pre-party for sure......and post party too!!

For public spots Playalinda beach will be the closest to the launch pad and so best for noise. Remember though that with this level of power and distance, being twice as far away will make 3db difference, so not very much. As said above, anywhere within 20 miles will get a great show.

Also, WRT Playalinda, you're trading being closer to the take-off for being further from the landing zone. 
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Post by: Kansan52 on 01/30/2018 08:49 PM
I'm so jealous!!
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Post by: GenXApollo on 01/30/2018 10:00 PM
.... Exploration Tower is not yet selling....

Exploration Tower will not be selling tickets for the F9H launch on Feb 6th. They are hosting a private event (all day).
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Post by: spacenut on 01/30/2018 10:19 PM
Well, I can't make it.  Wife has a doctors appointment on Feb. 6th.  Heart doctor.  She forgot about it until this morning. 
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Post by: fthomassy on 01/30/2018 11:54 PM
Well, I can't make it.  Wife has a doctors appointment on Feb. 6th.  Heart doctor.  She forgot about it until this morning.
That makes two of us in a way. We have pre-scheduled appointments that falls right in the window. To her credit she tried hard to find a way to work between or send me alone. Those who make it can raise a glass for us :'( Drinks are on Chris
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Post by: mike robel on 01/31/2018 01:37 AM
This is the view of Discovery on her final flight from the viewing site I reference up-thread, just so you can get an idea of the view.


The first shows the pad just before ignition.  The little sign in the foreground can be seen with the naked eye and will let you know where to look.


2nd is just after ignition.


3rd is after a bit of climb-out and clear of the smoke.
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Post by: sghill on 01/31/2018 01:51 PM
So, I am freaking out a little bit, mo worries, just a little bit,  it still.
I am arriving Jan 5th midnight onto 6th. So 13 hours before first launch attempt.
KSC is sold out. Exploration Tower is not yet selling. I do not yet have a car and clearly unfamiliar there anyway.

What/where hotel are you staying?

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I guess waaiers seems to try and get a ticket for Exploration Tower. Or would it be possible to get somewhere strategically in middle on public road without a car?
I plan to go as early as possible. Maybe even leaving from my Orlando hotel around 0800.

Any help and or suggestions welcome and much appreciated. This is my bucket list item and do not want to mess it up after flying halfway across the world to experience it.

Since this is your first launch, you are unfamiliar with the area, it will be a high attendance launch, Exploration Tower will be closed on the 6th and you won't have a car, here is my suggestion to make your trip as easy as it can be under the circumstances:

Tell the hotel to call you a cab (some hotels have a complimentary shuttle bus) to Port Canaveral. Tell the driver to take you to "FishLips Restaurant" in Port Canaveral around 10:00 or 11:00. Go to the rooftop restaurant area and grab a table at the beginning of the launch window. Stay there until the rocket lifts off, or the launch is scrubbed for the day. If the rocket launches, you will have an excellent view from the restaurant rooftop of both the ascent and landings. Plus, you will have food, drinks, bathrooms and there will be LOTS of other people watching. Invite someone to sit with you if you'd like.

If the launch is scrubbed on the 6th, try again the next day.

To everyone who hasn't been to a launch, I suggest you bring the largest, nicest binoculars you can afford. I've found telescopes are kind of hard to use once the launch happens,and no one wants to lug one around all day anyway. I've got image-stabilized Nikon binoculars that are fabulous for watching distant moving targets.

For everyone else, I will be wearing my NSF.com tee-shirt and have my family in tow. Since the tower is closed on the 6th, I will be on Rt. 401 in my SUV, and then Fishlips afterwards for food.  Please come up and say hello if you see me. If the launch scrubs to the 7th, I will try for Exploration Tower that morning. It has a magnificent view.

Weather forecast looks breezy and clear on the 6th. Warmer with a chance of afternoon thunderstorms on the 7th, but less wind.

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Post by: The_Ronin on 01/31/2018 02:22 PM
So,  Exploration Tower will NOT be selling tickets for 2/6 as it is rented out for a private function.  They may sell VIP launch viewing tickets on 2/7 but not confirmed.

I guess I will head over to Jetty Park or over on Rte 401 like sghill.  If you see a guy with a little redhead kid tagging along, that would be me.   ;)
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Post by: Jakusb on 01/31/2018 03:38 PM
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions! Fishlips definitely sounds like a solid plan. Does it have Free Wifi that is of usable quality?

I'm thinking the public beach near jetty park would be the right thing this time; it should have a great view of the dual landing.
The only spot that could be better is if KSC offers some additional viewing locations. The NASA Causeway would be amazing. It splits the distance between pad and landing zones. However, it's typically not open to the public. That being said, this is the most exciting launch at KSC since the final Shuttle mission, so they might add some additional viewing locations. Keep an eye out!

Any new on the NASA Causeway? Or how could we find out if it would be open to public?
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Post by: go4mars on 01/31/2018 04:51 PM
Good chance I'll fly down and meet some of you there!
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Post by: Jim on 01/31/2018 04:53 PM
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions! Fishlips definitely sounds like a solid plan. Does it have Free Wifi that is of usable quality?

I'm thinking the public beach near jetty park would be the right thing this time; it should have a great view of the dual landing.
The only spot that could be better is if KSC offers some additional viewing locations. The NASA Causeway would be amazing. It splits the distance between pad and landing zones. However, it's typically not open to the public. That being said, this is the most exciting launch at KSC since the final Shuttle mission, so they might add some additional viewing locations. Keep an eye out!

Any new on the NASA Causeway? Or how could we find out if it would be open to public?

The visitor center would sell passes for it
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Post by: Craig_VG on 01/31/2018 05:11 PM
So,  Exploration Tower will NOT be selling tickets for 2/6 as it is rented out for a private function. 

Indeed, SpaceX has rented it out for press
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Post by: speedevil on 01/31/2018 05:17 PM
To everyone who hasn't been to a launch, I suggest you bring the largest, nicest binoculars you can afford. I've found telescopes are kind of hard to use once the launch happens,and no one wants to lug one around all day anyway. I've got image-stabilized Nikon binoculars that are fabulous for watching distant moving targets.
If these are new binoculars, practice with them a bit in the couple of days beforehand, tracking objects, especially moving ones, is a skill, and you get way better with even a little practice. IS is almost cheating, but adds a moderate pile of cash.

You will likely want a tripod or some form of stabilisation if you go to large binocs. (>70mm or so). Practice to ensure you can smoothly track an ascending target over a wide range of angles.
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Post by: kslagle on 01/31/2018 05:21 PM
Went all in on this and booked a flight from CA, found a hotel and bought a ticket to the Rocket Garden (was slow to buy a better package, unfortunately) just to make sure I had some plan.

However, in reading all this and understanding each site has a different perspective, I am wondering if the Merritt Island site, Rt. 401 or Playalinda may be better than a partially blocked view from the Rocket Garden?

I am sure I will be in awe in any location.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: sghill on 01/31/2018 05:35 PM
Went all in on this and booked a flight from CA, found a hotel and bought a ticket to the Rocket Garden (was slow to buy a better package, unfortunately) just to make sure I had some plan.

However, in reading all this and understanding each site has a different perspective, I am wondering if the Merritt Island site, Rt. 401 or Playalinda may be better than a partially blocked view from the Rocket Garden?

I am sure I will be in awe in any location.

You'll be fine. And very close.
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Post by: CyndyC on 01/31/2018 06:19 PM
Sghill, you're sending Jakusb to Fishlips while you're going to 401, so which is better for the least obstructed view of the landing, and you or Mike advised against Jetty Park altogether? I expect there's no hope of a launch view w/o a treeline from the port, or is Mike's location on 528 best since the view is straight up the river?

Is there a charge for parking in the large lot on 401? And zooming in there is a parking lot further east much smaller but specifically labeled "Rocket Launch Parking". How fast does that one fill up and is it free?

With Ex Tower rented out I'm not confident that Fishlips won't be too. There will be a lot of SpaceX family & friends to please



Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jim on 01/31/2018 06:24 PM

With Ex Tower rented out I'm not confident that Fishlips won't be too. There will be a lot of SpaceX family & friends to please


Fish lips doesn't rent out the whole upper floor
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Post by: jpo234 on 01/31/2018 06:43 PM
.... Exploration Tower is not yet selling....

Exploration Tower will not be selling tickets for the F9H launch on Feb 6th. They are hosting a private event (all day).
And in case of a scrub there will be a private event on the delay day as well, I'm sure.
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Post by: mike robel on 01/31/2018 07:07 PM
Sghill, you're sending Jakusb to Fishlips while you're going to 401, so which is better for the least obstructed view of the landing, and you or Mike advised against Jetty Park altogether? I expect there's no hope of a launch view w/o a treeline from the port, or is Mike's location on 528 best since the view is straight up the river?

Is there a charge for parking in the large lot on 401? And zooming in there is a parking lot further east much smaller but specifically labeled "Rocket Launch Parking". How fast does that one fill up and is it free?

There is a Tree line obscuring the view toward the launch pads from Jetty Park that I detest.  While it is also there across the river from 528, you can just barely see the pads sticking out over the trees.  Having said that, I got some great photos of the Delta II launches from there, but the LC 39 pads are further away.

I've never got to 401 for a viewing because I am satisfied with the view from 528.

For some launches I have gone to Cherie Down Park on Cape Canaveral, but as you can see it bests for launches from the really old pads (Delta II) and it is obstructed most of the way to LC 39.  You do get a good view of the vehicle when the launch is to the East, as this one will be, but I like being able to see the Park.


Jetty Park is north of this location and suffers much the same problem.


I watched two space shuttle launches from Titusville from the parking lot of my favorite restaurant, which has now changed owners and changed everything (Shiloh's Steak and Seafood) so I don't go there anymore, but getting out was terrible, although the view was good.  I don't know if they still let you park there for launches or not.


Titusville is okay if you can find a good place to park (not on the road shoulder), and then walk across US 1 to the river.

I've never watched a launch from Playlinda Beach, but I imagine it would be spectacular.  ITs pretty far to go, the beach closes at 1800, and I just don't want to go up that far because I am so satisfied with the view from 528.

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Post by: billh on 01/31/2018 07:10 PM
I'm really looking forward to the meetup at Fishlips the night before. I can picture how it will go down as I get a chance to meet some NSF celebrities:

ME:   This is so exciting! What a pleasure it is to meet each other at last!
JIM:  Incorrect.


Just kidding, Jim. I promise not to pester you.  ::)
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CeeJayDugan on 01/31/2018 07:19 PM
It is starting to feel VERY real. Though it will feel SUPER real if they are able to clear GovSat today. Looking forward to the Fishlips meet up Monday night. It will be nice to hang out with other space geeks. My non-space enthusiast friends and family can't wait to ship me off to Florida to shut me up!  ;D
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Post by: OnWithTheShow on 01/31/2018 07:30 PM
Is there a confirmed Tuesday/Wednesday night (post-launch/scrub/rud) meetup as well?  I wont be getting in until late Monday night.
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Post by: OnWithTheShow on 01/31/2018 08:58 PM
GovSat complete = flights booked. See you all Tuesday
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Post by: Jakusb on 01/31/2018 09:17 PM
Sghill, you're sending Jakusb to Fishlips while you're going to 401, so which is better for the least obstructed view of the landing, and you or Mike advised against Jetty Park altogether? I expect there's no hope of a launch view w/o a treeline from the port, or is Mike's location on 528 best since the view is straight up the river?

He doesn't have a car and a cabbie can find Fishlips.

Looking at google streetview, It seems 401 will have best view of launch
And Fishlips should have best view of the landings, while having some brush obstructing view of launchpad?

Ok, looking at Google Maps, I think I see 401 being about 1-2 mile from Fishlips?
That should be an easy walk to where you are standing, or is something preventing that option?
I plan to go there as early as I can to prevent any issues with possible traffic jams.
With the Wifi and food @Fishlips I can happily work on my laptop until the real excitement begins..
I just have to figure out if it is cheaper to rent a car or get an uber...
My hotel is Seralago Hotel & Suites @5678 West Irlo Bronson Memorial Hwy Kissimmee, so about 70 miles out and about a 70 minute drive...

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Post by: Ike17055 on 01/31/2018 09:25 PM
I love the excitement that comes through the posts here. Suddenly, this does feel very “real.”  I know the area well but this my first launch; can anyone reccomend how much time i need to get from the city of cape canaveral to the visitor center on a big launch day? I have Feel the Heat seating, and need to figure out how early to start the trek.  Much better to be way early than to be a little late. Thanks for any advice.
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Post by: Ike17055 on 01/31/2018 09:27 PM
My darling wife, ever the planner, suggested that someone have name labels,   complete with our online monikers, on hand. Any ambitious types want to take that on?
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Post by: cscott on 01/31/2018 09:31 PM



And it's not really safe to walk from the restaurant area over to the cruise ship area.

Not safe = roads not meant for pedestrians, not "not safe because of crime" or anything like that.  You'd be walking on the highway basically.  American road design assumes only cars will be on roads, it's rare outside of cities for roads to accommodate bikers or walkers.  Take an Uber or Lyft across from fishlips if you must: you can probably drop a pin on the right destination spot in the app.

It's worth briefly mentioning that Fishlips has an excellent view of the Go twins and OCISLY as well, although they will likely be out at sea for FH. But I hung out at Fishlips with my 5-yr-old before the ORS-5 launch in August, and we got to ogle the SpaceX navy from close up. He likes boats as well as rockets.

Also: the SpaceX launch control center is just across the way, at the end of 401, and the area in front of it is open to the public (you turn off before you get to the guardhouse).  Someday there will be a used F9 erected out in front.  If the launch gets scrubbed and you find yourself in the area it might be worth a touristy wander.
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Post by: IanThePineapple on 01/31/2018 09:32 PM
Man, I'd love to come down.
But if there's a BFR maiden flight and/or first manned Mars flight meetup, save me a seat. I will be there!  ;D

Serious question:
When there's no launches occurring, can you still go to the public viewing site next to Port Canaveral? Would it be worth going there with binoculars just to get some shots of the pads?
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Post by: Jim on 01/31/2018 09:33 PM

Also: the SpaceX launch control center is just across the way, at the end of 401, and the area in front of it is open to the public (you turn off before you get to the guardhouse).  Someday there will be a used F9 erected out in front.  If the launch gets scrubbed and you find yourself in the area it might be worth a touristy wander.

Even better, the Air Force Space & Missile History Center is there
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Post by: Jakusb on 01/31/2018 09:38 PM
Sghill, you're sending Jakusb to Fishlips while you're going to 401, so which is better for the least obstructed view of the landing, and you or Mike advised against Jetty Park altogether? I expect there's no hope of a launch view w/o a treeline from the port, or is Mike's location on 528 best since the view is straight up the river?

He doesn't have a car and a cabbie can find Fishlips.

Looking at google streetview, It seems 401 will have best view of launch
And Fishlips should have best view of the landings, while having some brush obstructing view of launchpad?

Ok, looking at Google Maps, I think I see 401 being about 1-2 mile from Fishlips?
That should be an easy walk to where you are standing, or is something preventing that option?
I plan to go there as early as I can to prevent any issues with possible traffic jams.
With the Wifi and food @Fishlips I can happily work on my laptop until the real excitement begins..
I just have to figure out if it is cheaper to rent a car or get an uber...
My hotel is Seralago Hotel & Suites @5678 West Irlo Bronson Memorial Hwy Kissimmee, so about 70 miles out and about a 70 minute drive...

Kissimmee!?! Wow. Rent a car at the airport. Soooo much cheaper.

And it's not really safe to walk from the restaurant area over to the cruise ship area.

Car rented for 5 days for 171 dollars, so transport covered, it now shifts to just parking and driving safely... ;)
With GovSat-1 safely in orbit, even more excited... :)
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Post by: Ike17055 on 01/31/2018 09:40 PM




And it's not really safe to walk from the restaurant area over to the cruise ship area.

Not safe = roads not meant for pedestrians, not not safe because of crime or anything.  You'd be walking on the highway basically.  Take an Uber or Lyft across from fishlips if you must: you can probably drop a pin on the right destination spot in the app.
.

Also: the SpaceX launch control center is just across the way, at the end of 401, and the area in front of it is open to the public (you turn off before you get to the guardhouse).  Someday there will be a used F9 erected out in front.  If the launch gets scrubbed and you find yourself in the area it might be worth a touristy wander.

Nice little museum next to Space X as well. Simple but informative. Great volunteers who serve as guides, or self-directed.

Also good guidance regarding “not safe” for pedestrians. Walking on highway + lots of gawking tourists who are unfamiliar with area = potential for terrible trouble on an itherwise celebratory historic day.
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Post by: Ike17055 on 01/31/2018 09:45 PM

Also: the SpaceX launch control center is just across the way, at the end of 401, and the area in front of it is open to the public (you turn off before you get to the guardhouse).  Someday there will be a used F9 erected out in front.  If the launch gets scrubbed and you find yourself in the area it might be worth a touristy wander.

Even better, the Air Force Space & Missile History Center is there

Ya beat me to the send button. Yes, highly recommend. Not glitzy, but hugely informative. Easy to invest some time in this place.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CeeJayDugan on 01/31/2018 09:55 PM
My darling wife, ever the planner, suggested that someone have name labels,   complete with our online monikers, on hand. Any ambitious types want to take that on?

I've seen this idea batted around in a few other posts. I'd say the more folks that come armed with some pre-printed labels the easier it will be to make pre-launch friends with everyone. I'll try to bring some labels as well.
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Post by: gongora on 01/31/2018 10:02 PM
I'll be coming down for the launch, not sure yet where I want to try viewing it from.  I've never seen a launch in person so I'm tempted to try Playalinda if it's open, otherwise probably near the port.  Maybe we can work out some carpools when we meet up on Monday  :)
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Post by: jg on 01/31/2018 10:16 PM
I should be there, possibly with elderly mother-in-law in tow.  I will be wearing a "The Boring Company" cap.
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Post by: Jakusb on 01/31/2018 10:52 PM
We might even see a falcon9 being towed into port... 1032 survived the soft water landing and they are going to try to tow it to shore.
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Post by: Ike17055 on 01/31/2018 10:54 PM
Please keep us informed if playalinda status changes / clarifies.  It would be a great place not only for launch viewing but also to kill time while waiting. It is a wonderful, wild place. I was there christmas day (coooold) for a mini-picnic.  And have been there other times in better weather. A marvelous spot in general.
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Post by: kerrycockram on 01/31/2018 11:19 PM
1032 survived the soft water landing

Really? That's kind of amazing. I'm one good belly-flop away from losing my lunch.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CyndyC on 02/01/2018 12:04 AM
My hotel is Seralago Hotel & Suites @5678 West Irlo Bronson Memorial Hwy Kissimmee, so about 70 miles out and about a 70 minute drive...

Kissimmee!?! Wow. Rent a car at the airport. Soooo much cheaper.

And it's not really safe to walk from the restaurant area over to the cruise ship area.

Car rented for 5 days for 171 dollars, so transport covered, it now shifts to just parking and driving safely... ;)
With GovSat-1 safely in orbit, even more excited... :)

An even better idea would be to cancel your Kissimmee motel reservation after Monday night and get a room near the port while you still can.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CyndyC on 02/01/2018 12:19 AM
My darling wife, ever the planner, suggested that someone have name labels,   complete with our online monikers, on hand. Any ambitious types want to take that on?

I've seen this idea batted around in a few other posts. I'd say the more folks that come armed with some pre-printed labels the easier it will be to make pre-launch friends with everyone. I'll try to bring some labels as well.

CeeJay, you've posted you'll be at the Saturn V Center for the launch, so I'll bring some blank name tags & markers for the day & evening of the launch elsewhere.
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Post by: OnWithTheShow on 02/01/2018 02:42 AM
Does the AF museum offer parking and viewing for the launches?
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Post by: JohnR on 02/01/2018 02:57 AM
Does the AF museum offer parking and viewing for the launches?

There is a small parking lot there. Shared by the Sands Museum, SpaceX & Moon Express. So consider it to be full and not usable on launch day. You will need to park on the grass on the side of the road. There are some bleachers set up directly across the road on the Banana River side of 401 (North). Most likely, they will be reserved and not available for the public.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jim on 02/01/2018 03:50 AM
Does the AF museum offer parking and viewing for the launches?

It is closed (along with its parking lot) on launch days since that is where SpaceX LCC is. 
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Post by: Ike17055 on 02/01/2018 11:35 AM
Please keep us informed if playalinda status changes / clarifies.  It would be a great place not only for launch viewing but also to kill time while waiting. It is a wonderful, wild place. I was there christmas day (coooold) for a mini-picnic.  And have been there other times in better weather. A marvelous spot in general.
Unfortunately, the website is less than useless. When you actually show up to the guard house, there is a chalkboard which tells you if they are open or not. By than, you have wasted a good 45 minutes of driving - assuming there is no rocket traffic to get out to the beach...

https://www.nps.gov/cana/planyourvisit/conditions.htm

The only good news though may be that (at least according to various written commentary, not personal experience) the viewing from Max Brewer Bridge which connects the Preserve to Titusville is supposed to be quite good, especially for 39-A. It would be an appealing backup that would be within easy travel distance if the Preserve decides to close unexpectedly.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: ChrisGebhardt on 02/01/2018 04:55 PM
Hey everyone! So I am super busy and won’t have time to actually plan this myself, but fear not, because another member of our forum has volunteered to take the reins on this. And for ease of remembering names, it’s another Chris! This time, Chris M (Forum member name is "C"). He should be in touch with all of you who have expressed interest in the thread of attending the Falcon Heavy meetup at some point soon so we can decide on a restaurant and all that. Looking forward to meeting all of you
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Post by: Jeramiah Johnson on 02/01/2018 05:25 PM
I live in a northern suburb of Chicago and I would like to see this launch and a meet up can be on the table.
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Post by: alhenry1231 on 02/01/2018 05:54 PM
I'm down for meet up.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: ChrisGebhardt on 02/01/2018 05:56 PM
Hey everyone! So I am super busy and won’t have time to actually plan this myself, but fear not, because another member of our forum has volunteered to take the reins on this. And for ease of remembering names, it’s another Chris! This time, Chris C. He should be in touch with all of you who have expressed interest in the thread of attending the Falcon Heavy meetup at some point soon so we can decide on a restaurant and all that. Looking forward to meeting all of you

Chris,

Will you or ChrisC please keep an ear to ground about Playalinda being open?

http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html
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Post by: GenXApollo on 02/01/2018 11:38 PM
What time is recommended to head out to Playalinda beach? Right at the opening at 6 am? What about beach gear (Chairs, Umbrella, etc..)? How close can I park the car?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: sghill on 02/02/2018 12:18 AM
What time is recommended to head out to Playalinda beach? Right at the opening at 6 am? What about beach gear (Chairs, Umbrella, etc..)? How close can I park the car?

The earlier you go, the closer you park to the beach. It's one of the prettiest beaches in America, IMHO, and the pad looks like it's right next to you. The nude sunbathers won't be there on launch days (as much).

Just remember, if you go there,  it is super austere out there, and once you are there, you are committed until the launch or scrub once traffic starts.

No food or water, no shelter, and primitive bathrooms (mobbed by people). Cell phones often don't even work out there! My AT&T, definitely not.

I'll go there once FH is flying regularly, but not this first go around...
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Post by: Lar on 02/02/2018 12:24 AM
I live in a northern suburb of Chicago and I would like to see this launch and a meet up can be on the table.
Are you suggesting a Chicago area meetup?

I will be in Phoenix for work (rather than at the launch as I wished) and would love to meet fans in that area.... maybe yet another thread?
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Post by: Jakusb on 02/02/2018 07:29 AM
How about following the launch stream at the locations mentioned?
I guess at Fishlips there might be a chance of using the WIFI to follow the launch per stream too?

In Europe I have a virtual unlimited (24Gb) 4G data bundle.
How is that in US? Many people with proper data bundle and maybe even willing to share it with Personal Hotspot?
Is there even proper reception at for example 401?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: sghill on 02/02/2018 11:37 AM
How about following the launch stream at the locations mentioned?
I guess at Fishlips there might be a chance of using the WIFI to follow the launch per stream too?

In Europe I have a virtual unlimited (24Gb) 4G data bundle.
How is that in US? Many people with proper data bundle and maybe even willing to share it with Personal Hotspot?
Is there even proper reception at for example 401?

Your carrier won't work over here. When you get to the Orlando airport, purchase a SIM card for your phone that includes a data package. Buy an unlimited calls and data SIM card from one of the airport AT&T carrier phone stores for around US$40, and you will be fine for calls and Internet access.

Playalinda Beach itself is the only place you won't have signal anywhere in the area on land.

https://www.disboards.com/threads/mco-shops-anywhere-to-buy-phone-sim-data.3452947/
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: c on 02/03/2018 12:00 AM
NSF FALCON HEAVY MEETUP!

Please take the SURVEY (https://goo.gl/forms/0zui8qRTqH598MBt1)  8)

Hello space fans,

As Chris G. mentioned earlier, I am helping out with the meetup that we are hoping to have THIS Monday night (Feb 5th, 2018).

There is a short survey HERE (https://goo.gl/forms/0zui8qRTqH598MBt1) that will help us flush out the details of the meetup. Please fill this out as quickly as possible so that we can make reservations, print out some fantastically normal name tags, and maybe decide if anyone should win a door prize or two.

c - the other, other, other Chris

Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: c on 02/03/2018 12:45 AM
My darling wife, ever the planner, suggested that someone have name labels,   complete with our online monikers, on hand. Any ambitious types want to take that on?

I will be bringing name tags & markers. I'll pre-print as many as possible.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 02/03/2018 01:14 AM
My darling wife, ever the planner, suggested that someone have name labels,   complete with our online monikers, on hand. Any ambitious types want to take that on?

I will be bringing name tags & markers. I'll pre-print as many as possible.

Might I suggest the tags have both name and handle? I only know you guys by handle but it would be weird calling someone vaporcobra, Flying Beaver, or Jim to their face.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: IanThePineapple on 02/03/2018 01:15 AM
My darling wife, ever the planner, suggested that someone have name labels,   complete with our online monikers, on hand. Any ambitious types want to take that on?

I will be bringing name tags & markers. I'll pre-print as many as possible.

Might I suggest the tags have both name and handle? I only know you guys by handle but it would be weird calling someone vaporcobra, Flying Beaver, or Jim to their face.

Maybe like this:

[Real name, large text]

[username, slightly smaller text]
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: c on 02/03/2018 01:31 AM
My darling wife, ever the planner, suggested that someone have name labels,   complete with our online monikers, on hand. Any ambitious types want to take that on?

I will be bringing name tags & markers. I'll pre-print as many as possible.

Might I suggest the tags have both name and handle? I only know you guys by handle but it would be weird calling someone vaporcobra, Flying Beaver, or Jim to their face.

So as an example.... 
HANDLE - Jim
NAME - Pat
 ;)

I will print out the name tags with two lines and pre-fill what I can. And bring plenty of blanks & Sharpies.

REMEMBER - Please take the SURVEY (https://goo.gl/forms/0zui8qRTqH598MBt1)

Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: WindnWar on 02/03/2018 03:01 AM
Is Playalinda beach a deadzone for all cell providers or only certain ones? I'm bringing a live streaming pack that has several providers modems in it, but no point in going there if its a total deadzone.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: kerrycockram on 02/03/2018 04:43 AM
Is Playalinda beach a deadzone for all cell providers or only certain ones? I'm bringing a live streaming pack that has several providers modems in it, but no point in going there if its a total deadzone.

As far as I can tell, there's barely any towers out there.

Each tower has a finite capacity, as does the tower's backhaul. When you get a few thousand of your newest best friends out there LiveInstaTinderBooking, something's gonna give. And, like everywhere else on the planet, it won't be physics that does the giving :)

When there are big events at parks in my area (at the edge of the Everglades) the telcos bring in portable cell towers. Maybe they'll do that for FH Day but none of my contacts know anything going on that far north.

You could do a test, but that would require testing under similar conditions (i.e. with thousands of people in a small area) beforehand.

P.S. - bring patience for when the network fails and people start going through TinderBookGram withdrawals. OK, I added this because I'm having fun concatenating things like WhatsBookGramTinder and FaceGramInstaBook.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jakusb on 02/03/2018 01:55 PM
My brother bought a drone. A real good one.
But I am not sure if it will be a good idea to bring it and use it for filming the launch and landing.
What are the regulations there. Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: rsheitz on 02/03/2018 02:12 PM
Going for my first launch. Where would be a good spot to view as KSC tix seem to be sold out. 
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: ChrisGebhardt on 02/03/2018 02:21 PM
NSF FALCON HEAVY MEETUP!

Please take the SURVEY (https://goo.gl/forms/0zui8qRTqH598MBt1)  8)

Hello space fans,

As Chris G. mentioned earlier, I am helping out with the meetup that we are hoping to have THIS Monday night (Feb 5th, 2018).

There is a short survey HERE (https://goo.gl/forms/0zui8qRTqH598MBt1) that will help us flush out the details of the meetup. Please fill this out as quickly as possible so that we can make reservations, print out some fantastically normal name tags, and maybe decide if anyone should win a door prize or two.

c - the other, other, other Chris




Please please please if you are definitely coming to our NSF meetup for Falcon Heavy, or even just considering coming, fill out this form.  We have made reservations but need to keep the restaurant informed of how many of us our coming. 

Looking forward to seeing everyone.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: kerrycockram on 02/03/2018 02:33 PM
My brother bought a drone. A real good one.
But I am not sure if it will be a good idea to bring it and use it for filming the launch and landing.
What are the regulations there. Does anyone know?

The FAA knows what regulations there are regarding RPV operations. And it is the pilot's responsibility to know and follow FAA rules. If he causes a scrub due to security violation he's not gonna have a good time.

An organization dedicated to safe hobby operation of RPVs is the Academy of Model Aeronautics (AMA) -
 https://www.modelaircraft.org -. I STRONGLY encourage membership, training, and practice outside the airspace of things like AIR EFFING FORCE BASES and SPACE EFFING LAUNCH SITES.

Ahem.

But to fully answer your question, he should look for a NOTAM for that airspace during that time. Here's an example NOTAM from Jan 26th, 2018:

FDC 8/1640 ZMA FL..AIRSPACE KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, FL..TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS KENNEDY SPACE CENTER SPACE OPS AREA. PURSUANT TO SECTION 91.143 OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS (CFR 91.143), FLT OPS CONDUCTED BY FAA CERTIFICATED PILOTS OR CONDUCTED IN ACFT OF U.S. REGISTRY ARE PROHIBITED AT ANY ALT FM THE SFC-FL180, WI AN AREA DEFINED AS 285116N804219W TO 290730N803000W THENCE CLOCKWISE VIA A 30 NM ARC CENTERED AT 283703N803647W TO 281330N801600W TO 282501N803029W TO 282501N803759W TO 282501N804144W TO 283121N804349W TO 283801N804701W TO 284910N805044W TO 285116N804714W TO 285116N804219W. MIAMI CENTER, PHONE 305 716 1589, IS THE COORDINATING FAA FACILITY AND MAY BE CONTACTED FOR THE CURRENT STATUS OF ANY AIRSPACE ASSOCIATED WITH LAUNCH OPS. THIS AREA ENCOMPASSES R2932, R2933, R2934, AND PORTIONS OF W497A, W136F, W137F AND W137G. ADDITIONAL WARNING AND RESTRICTED AREAS WILL BE ACTIVE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OPS. PILOTS SHALL CONSULT ALL NOTAMS REGARDING THIS OPERATION. 1801302048-1801310037

I wish to highlight "PROHIBITED AT ANY ALT". That means, inside that restricted area, you cannot legally fly a "drone" even 1 millimeter off the ground. And the FAA is humorless enough to consider that a violation worth acting on, because the risk of catastrophe is already so high that any unnecessary risk is, well, unnecessary.

You can find NOTAMS on the FAA's website. Additionally, the aforementioned AMA has a news feed: https://www.modelaircraft.org/membership/clubs/notams.aspx .

Remember: The pilot is responsible for not violating a TFR (temporary flight restriction). The FAA doesn't do "oops, our bad".
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 02/03/2018 02:51 PM
Going for my first launch. Where would be a good spot to view as KSC tix seem to be sold out.

This has been discussed pretty extensively already. Please read back and don't force us to repeat out insight and opinions on every page.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 02/03/2018 02:54 PM

Please please please if you are definitely coming to our NSF meetup for Falcon Heavy, or even just considering coming, fill out this form.  We have made reservations but need to keep the restaurant informed of how many of us our coming. 

Looking forward to seeing everyone.

Do we have a time and place then? Would be nice to know so I can nail down plans.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: FluffyFreak on 02/03/2018 04:42 PM
We start travelling at 3:45am this Sunday morning :o thankfully we will be able to get some sleep before the meetup :D

Look forward to seeing you all there.

Andy
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: therein69 on 02/03/2018 06:49 PM
Hi all. I am flying down from New Jersey early Sunday and will be in the cape area by around noon. I am definitely going to the meet up and have completed the survey. I have an extra Feel The Heat voucher at the Saturn 5 Center due to my buddy backing out at the last minute. Just lookin to get face value if anyone is interested. Would hate for it to go to waste. If I have violated any forum rules please delete this post. My real life name is Tony.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: ChrisGebhardt on 02/03/2018 07:27 PM

Please please please if you are definitely coming to our NSF meetup for Falcon Heavy, or even just considering coming, fill out this form.  We have made reservations but need to keep the restaurant informed of how many of us our coming. 

Looking forward to seeing everyone.

Do we have a time and place then? Would be nice to know so I can nail down plans.

Fishlips for Monday @ 6:00 pm EST
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: GenXApollo on 02/04/2018 12:19 AM
Hi all. I am flying down from New Jersey early Sunday and will be in the cape area by around noon. I am definitely going to the meet up and have completed the survey. I have an extra Feel The Heat voucher at the Saturn 5 Center due to my buddy backing out at the last minute. Just lookin to get face value if anyone is interested. Would hate for it to go to waste. If I have violated any forum rules please delete this post. My real life name is Tony.

Yeah, I might buy it. I am still debating if I should go to Playalinda beach instead.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 02/04/2018 02:11 AM
Has anyone heard rumors about Jetty Park? Wasn't planning to be there right at open, but based on what we are hearing from Playalinda maybe I should be.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Spacex-fan on 02/04/2018 03:42 AM
Tony,
If you still have this ticket for sale I would be interested.  I sent you an email too....I think.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Johnnyhinbos on 02/04/2018 04:19 AM
Not to wish a delay on this launch, it my wife flys back home to Boston from Austria on Tuesday and if this thing slips even a day we’ll head down...


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Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: MATTBLAK on 02/04/2018 04:34 AM
I so wish I was there with you guys! :( It'd be great to meet you all. I'm aiming to certainly be there for the 'Lunar Tourist' flight, if and when it occurs...
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: sghill on 02/04/2018 01:36 PM
Woo hoo! My NSF.com baseball jersey arrived in time! The cat approves.

Nice quality cotton, runs very large though.

Shame it's the old logo, maybe Chris will update the store soon

Come up and say hi if you see me in it.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: WindnWar on 02/04/2018 01:44 PM
About to get on the road and start heading south. Be in Tampa for my work errand by 7 or 8pm tonight and then off towards the cape area tomorrow morning.

Look forward to meeting a bunch of you at Fishlips tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: c on 02/04/2018 03:27 PM
UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE --- NSF Falcon Heavy MEMBER MEETUP --- UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE

Last updated on Sunday, Feb. 4th, 2018 around noon, somewhere in Florida, on a potential frog-strangler of a day.
(now that the scene is set)

Please take the SURVEY (https://goo.gl/forms/0zui8qRTqH598MBt1)  8)

NSF is reserved at Fishlips Waterfront Bar & Grill (https://goo.gl/maps/1a2yJDPR7AT2) for Monday, Feb 5 at 6:00 PM EST. We have the upstairs outside patio (covered) pretty much to ourselves.  I will get some signs hung somewhere so that all the world can gawk at our space flight nerdiness.

If you'd like to arrive a little early and help out a bit, please PM me. Think of it as a little extra time to enjoy a pint or two.

If you plan to attend PLEASE fill out the short survey HERE (https://goo.gl/forms/0zui8qRTqH598MBt1). This will let me know if we need to adjust our reservation count.

Thanks!

c - the other, other, other Chris
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Spacex-fan on 02/04/2018 05:10 PM
Does anyone have an extra FTH ticket available?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CyndyC on 02/04/2018 08:03 PM
Spoiler and drooler alert:

Fishlips Menu (http://fishlipswaterfront.com/lunch-dinner-menu/)
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: The_Ronin on 02/04/2018 09:45 PM
I won't be there until around 1am so Fishlips is out for me.  What about a post launch celebration Tues or Wed night?
Title: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jakusb on 02/04/2018 11:43 PM
I won't be there until around 1am so Fishlips is out for me.  What about a post launch celebration Tues or Wed night?

Yes! Same for me! Definitely would love to see you all post-launch.

I am so excited and even a bit nervous.
But am pretty good prepared with 1 Gb data
SIM, proper binoculars, a rental car and my MacBook and iPhone.
Although a bit afraid the cell service will be overwhelmed and likely useless for each ring any live stream. Hopefully at least enough for messages on this forum.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: IanThePineapple on 02/05/2018 12:38 AM
I won't be there until around 1am so Fishlips is out for me.  What about a post launch celebration Tues or Wed night?

Yes! Same for me! Definitely would love to see you all post-launch.

I am so excited and even a bit nervous.
But am pretty good prepared with 1 Gb data
SIM, proper binoculars, a rental car and my MacBook and iPhone.
Although a bit afraid the cell service will be overwhelmed and likely useless for each ring any live stream. Hopefully at least enough for messages on this forum.
Bring tissues and a flag to wave (doesn't matter from which country it is). Launches have an effect on people. Be emotionally prepared (if it goes up) to see people weep openly.

Good point, [quick little story] I was on the verge of tears and was waving around a tiny American flag while watching the New Horizons Pluto flyby on NASATV, just sitting in my living room, watching TV. Space things can be emotional.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: WindnWar on 02/05/2018 01:40 AM
Man, what a drive down, hope all driving made it safely through all the rain. Ready to go scouting locations tomorrow!

Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: JohnR on 02/05/2018 01:43 AM
Man, what a drive down, hope all driving made it safely through all the rain. Ready to go scouting locations tomorrow!

Glad you made it safely. Hope you enjoy your stay.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: therein69 on 02/05/2018 10:23 AM
Spacex-fan. Since you were first to respond the passes are yours. I will see you at fishlips tonight!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Spacex-fan on 02/05/2018 10:33 AM
Therin69.  My flight for this morning was cancelled and I now won’t be arriving until very late tonight.  So I won’t make it to the meet up.  Is it possible for me to PayPal the money to you and send electronically.  If that is not possible I understand.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Ike17055 on 02/05/2018 01:28 PM
Flew out in a snowstorm yesterday, arrived quite late, and then drove through the rains, but glad to be here with some advance time. This will be mammoth! (Besides, it’s 30 degrees (f) back home, and will be 70 here tomorrow...)
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Spacex-fan on 02/05/2018 02:18 PM
Yea.  My flight was delayed until tomorrow but was able to find a different flight for later today.  Prob should have went down yesterday.  Looking forward to it.

Therein69, I can also meet you in the morning if you can’t transfer electronically but that may be hectic.  Let me know what works for you.

Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Harder on 02/05/2018 08:45 PM
I visited Playalinda Beach today and was at the fence (closest point to the FH) around 13:15 local time. I just missed an interview opportunity with the local TV station. Could have been an interesting take: FH launch viewers even from Amsterdam.. ha, ha

Anyway, the guards were very strict, and walking up the wooden ramp for taking a better picture at the fence was not permitted. The best picture opportunity is probably at the walkway from Parking Zone 1 towards the beach.

The strong wind was blowing along the beach towards the launchpad and if it stays that way the sound experience will not be so good I think (sound being one of the main reasons for selecting that viewing site).

The view was hazy, possibly also because we were looking into the sun.

Finally, the beach was fairly narrow (towards high tide I reckon) and only so many people can realistically be close to the fence for a maximum immersion in the takeoff spectacle.

To end on a positive note: the very friendly guard at the entrance to the nature reserve confirmed that the park would be open from 06:00 onwards.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: kslagle on 02/06/2018 02:01 AM
Thanks to all those who helped organize tonight.  It was great to meet and see so many super excited folks.

My little Astronaut door prize will forever be a good luck charm (pending tomorrow).
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: billh on 02/06/2018 02:13 AM
I had a great time at the meetup tonight. It was great putting faces to names for many familiar NSFers. Here is a photo to give you a feel for the turnout.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: kerrycockram on 02/06/2018 02:28 AM
We had a great time also.

Too bad we ended up at the wrong meetup, just outside on the deck. Still met fellow enthusiasts and had drinks.

Fishlips is a decent spot, will remember for future trips up here.

:)
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 02/06/2018 04:52 AM
Good to see everyone! Hopefully we can do this again soon. Crew dragon? BFR? I'm always down to meet up if any locals want to make a tradition of it!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: WindnWar on 02/06/2018 08:16 AM
FYI Playalinda beach is closed as of 4am. Officer is posted just before the gate and is turning everyone around. No signs or notice till you get there.

Yesterday they said they would be open.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: midnightrider3000 on 02/06/2018 08:33 AM
At Fishlips, how did u get up to the upper deck, Visa the front door or around the left side? Planning on watching the launch from there tomorrow. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: WindnWar on 02/06/2018 08:54 AM
Talked to a local dude and he said they are just turning people around till it opens at six. There is still nothing posted on the flashing billboard before you enter.

If true not cool to the officer telling people the beach is closed without saying it will be open later.

Will let you know.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Ike17055 on 02/06/2018 09:05 AM
If you missed the meetup, you missed out. Thanks to those who organized. Met some terrific people, and enjoyed soaking up all the excitement. I adore my doorprize shuttle keychain too.

Everywhere i went today, I was bumping into people who are here for the launch, and everyone is all chatty and excited. Really neat to be here for a launch, finally.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Ike17055 on 02/06/2018 09:14 AM
Special shoutout to Jim, who at times seemed like the celebrity guest.  I heard so many people say, “I want to meet Jim.”  Thanks for tolerating all my questions.  And special thanks for taking so much time with the two ten year olds who were enamored with meeting someone who has worked inside the program. I hope you don’t mind, I was one of the folks who steered them your way. I do believe they were awestruck.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: WindnWar on 02/06/2018 09:28 AM
Beach update. They are turning folks around just before you pass the billboard entering Merritt and making people wait on the side of the road till six am. There is a long line of cars and it's becoming a mess as they turn folks around.

32 minutes till six am currently.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: leetdan on 02/06/2018 09:46 AM
Should we make a new thread for traffic & crowd conditions around the area?  If not, how is the Port / 401 area looking so far?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: c on 02/06/2018 10:21 AM
TRAFFIC UPDATE

Up until 6:00 am (local) everything was flowing good: I95, NASA Causeway, etc.

6:20 am —- Traffic into the KCS Visistor Center is backing up. The diehards here very early parked off the road right at the parking entrance. Unfortunately the slightly less enthusiastic just began stopping on the road, blocking us fanatics in.

Per the guard at the KSC VC gate they will open up parking at 630 am.

Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: gongora on 02/06/2018 10:43 AM
I'm in Playalinda lot 2.  Clear view of FH from my parking spot.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: aragos on 02/06/2018 10:52 AM
Parking at 401 is about 2/3 full as of 6:45.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Orbiter on 02/06/2018 11:29 AM
How’s playalinda beach lookin?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: x15_fan on 02/06/2018 11:47 AM
How’s playalinda beach lookin?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180206/acd7fd31b4218a8be5e7bc4710964907.jpg)

Not a bad view
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: WindnWar on 02/06/2018 11:55 AM
I'm in Playalinda lot 2.  Clear view of FH from my parking spot.
I am in lot three on the ramp to the beach. Clear view, bit hazy still but looks great.

Map distance is at 4 miles. Pretty good. Should be awesome!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jakusb on 02/06/2018 12:23 PM
Jetty park filling up quickly. A bit hazy still.
Anybody else there too? PM me.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: midnightrider3000 on 02/06/2018 12:25 PM
Fishlips, 6 cars so far
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: The_Ronin on 02/06/2018 12:49 PM
In a hotel about a mile away from Jetty.  Guess I will make my way over to there or maybe Fishlips.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jim on 02/06/2018 01:20 PM
Parking at 401 is about 2/3 full as of 6:45.

How's 401 looking. I'm about 40 min away.

SR528 was already backed up to SR3 at 0830
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: aragos on 02/06/2018 01:22 PM
Parking at 401 is about 2/3 full as of 6:45.

How's 401 looking. I'm about 40 min away.

Pretty much full. There's a couple cars parallel parked so maybe you can get one of them to free up space. Police is keeping an eye out as well so they might not let you in. Plenty of space if you walk in though.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: midnightrider3000 on 02/06/2018 01:34 PM
Fishlips opening early once staff gets here. More and more cars arriving.

12 so far. No idea how many people upstairs holds for the viewing.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: leetdan on 02/06/2018 01:37 PM
401 is looking good, just ask one of the many Base or Port security personnel in the area where to park and they'll help you out.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: c on 02/06/2018 01:38 PM
SATURN V CENTER MEETUP

Brayden & I are on the fence line, dead center. Look for the hammocks.

Come by and say hi.

c - the other, other, other Chris
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: The_Ronin on 02/06/2018 02:11 PM
Jetty Park filled.  Going to head to Fishlips.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: midnightrider3000 on 02/06/2018 02:25 PM
Fishlips partiality open. Waiting on more staff to open the upstairs
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: The_Ronin on 02/06/2018 02:38 PM
Awesome... will be there shortly
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: midnightrider3000 on 02/06/2018 02:48 PM
fishlips open and filling up

Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Rocket Science on 02/06/2018 03:07 PM
To all our NSF members meeting-up, have a great experience and thank you for sharing your thoughts and images! :)
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: cscott on 02/06/2018 03:08 PM
Go Searcher is back in port, just across from Fishlips.  You can take a look, maybe see if one of the crew drops by for a bite. ;)
https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9591648
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: The_Ronin on 02/06/2018 03:31 PM
In the back corner in the covered area.  Hoping I can get my kiddo on the rail come launch & landing
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: midnightrider3000 on 02/06/2018 03:35 PM
Go Searcher is back in port, just across from Fishlips.  You can take a look, maybe see if one of the crew drops
by for a bite. ;)
https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9591648

Where?

If that's GoSearcher it's looking a little worse for wear. LoL

2nd pic has the go searcher
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Ike17055 on 02/06/2018 03:37 PM
Sittin in section c at banana river viewing lot.  Fantastic spot. Gorgeous Weather.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Andrewwski on 02/06/2018 05:02 PM
Playalinda is full. No more cars allowed.

Any idea about pedestrians?  If it scrubs until tomorrow (and I can thus make it down there) I'm thinking about making the ~12 mile walk from Titusville, and trying to hitch a ride back.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: The_Ronin on 02/06/2018 05:10 PM
They were turning away pedestrians from Jetty Park around 10:30am so I can see them doing the same there, too.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CyndyC on 02/06/2018 05:20 PM
People have been parking along the full length of the northside of 401 around the port. I had a space early on about 9:30a close to the giant terminal parking lot. Took a mile walk to the bleachers just inside the base gate close to 11am and hardly any people were there, so I walked back to get my car and had zero problem finding a new space just outside the gate at 12:30. Sitting near the top of the 2nd set of bleachers right now. I'm wearing a bright red shirt & tan baseball hat with the letter 'J'. Pls say hi if you're here. Omigosh, only 10 more minutes!!
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Rocket Science on 02/06/2018 05:22 PM
People have been parking along the full length of the northside of 401 around the port. I had a space early on about 9:30a close to the giant terminal parking lot. Took a mile walk to the bleachers just inside the gate close to 11am and hardly any people were there, so I walked back to get my car and had zero problem finding a new space just outside the gate at 12:30. Sitting near the top of the 2nd set of bleachers right now. I'm wearing a bright red shirt & tan baseball hat with the letter 'J'. Pls say hi if you're here. Omigosh, only 10 more minutes!!
Cyndy, there's a delay for upper level winds... Stand by
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: flyright on 02/06/2018 05:26 PM
People have been parking along the full length of the northside of 401 around the port. I had a space early on about 9:30a close to the giant terminal parking lot. Took a mile walk to the bleachers just inside the base gate close to 11am and hardly any people were there, so I walked back to get my car and had zero problem finding a new space just outside the gate at 12:30. Sitting near the top of the 2nd set of bleachers right now. I'm wearing a bright red shirt & tan baseball hat with the letter 'J'. Pls say hi if you're here. Omigosh, only 10 more minutes!!

Just curious about the gate. I presume there is a guard. You just let them know you are there to use the bleachers?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: cscott on 02/06/2018 05:41 PM
Go Searcher is back in port, just across from Fishlips.  You can take a look, maybe see if one of the crew drops
by for a bite. ;)
https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9591648

Where?

If that's GoSearcher it's looking a little worse for wear. LoL

2nd pic has the go searcher
That's her.  The red ramp thing is where OCISLY berths; it sits underneath the wing and prevents it from scraping the dock AIUI.

Can you tell if anyone's moving around over there?  I'm thinking Go Searcher is taking a break because there's no fairing recovery on the FH mission, but I'd be very intrigued if it looked like (say) they were getting ready to go back out to sea.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: The_Ronin on 02/06/2018 05:42 PM
I see no activity over there.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CyndyC on 02/06/2018 06:04 PM
Did not drive thru the gate myself but guard was letting everyone thru to a large grass parking lot that looks like still has empty space.

Thx Rocket Science! Just heard about another delay now too
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: midnightrider3000 on 02/06/2018 06:22 PM
Go Searcher is back in port, just across from Fishlips.  You can take a look, maybe see if one of the crew drops
by for a bite. ;)
https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9591648

Where?

If that's GoSearcher it's looking a little worse for wear. LoL

2nd pic has the go searcher
That's her.  The red ramp thing is where OCISLY berths; it sits underneath the wing and prevents it from scraping the dock AIUI.

Can you tell if anyone's moving around over there?  I'm thinking Go Searcher is taking a break because there's no fairing recovery on the FH mission, but I'd be very intrigued if it looked like (say) they were getting ready to go back out to sea.

Someone in a green safety jacket is walking around the yellow crane area. Not tell if there was a van moving in the space x side or the shipping cargo crane.

Elon twitted a diagram of the launch and it included a fairing recovery.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: midnightrider3000 on 02/06/2018 06:24 PM
Go Searcher is back in port, just across from Fishlips.  You can take a look, maybe see if one of the crew drops
by for a bite. ;)
https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9591648

Where?

If that's GoSearcher it's looking a little worse for wear. LoL

2nd pic has the go searcher
That's her.  The red ramp thing is where OCISLY berths; it sits underneath the wing and prevents it from scraping the dock AIUI.

Can you tell if anyone's moving around over there?  I'm thinking Go Searcher is taking a break because there's no fairing recovery on the FH mission, but I'd be very intrigued if it looked like (say) they were getting ready to go back out to sea.

Someone in a green safety jacket is walking around the yellow crane area. Not tell if there was a van moving in the space x side or the shipping cargo crane.

Elon twitted a diagram of the launch and it included a fairing recovery.

Yep, people on Deck.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: cscott on 02/06/2018 06:38 PM
Hm! The graphic Elon tweeted was actually a graphic from an NSF news article (!), not created by SpaceX. So fairing recovery still in question.
Why aren't those Go Searcher guys up on the roof deck of Fish lips like everyone else? ;)

Actually -- did anyone near fishlips catch a look at the Exploration Tower sign down the road -- did we confirm it is closed for a "private (SpaceX) event"? (I've attached the sign as it read for the ORS-5 launch.)
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: midnightrider3000 on 02/06/2018 06:46 PM
Hm! The graphic Elon tweeted was actually a graphic from an NSF news article (!), not created by SpaceX. So fairing recovery still in question.
Why aren't those Go Searcher guys up on the roof deck of Fish lips like everyone else? ;)

Actually -- did anyone near fishlips catch a look at the Exploration Tower sign down the road -- did we confirm it is closed for a "private (SpaceX) event"? (I've attached the sign as it read for the ORS-5 launch.)

Yeah, sitting next to a guy that was trying to get on the list for there. 
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: OnWithTheShow on 02/06/2018 08:21 PM
FYI dashed to Fishlips from 401. Entire 2nd floor and deck closed for SpaceX after party.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: cscott on 02/06/2018 08:22 PM
FYI dashed to Fishlips from 401. Entire 2nd floor and deck closed for SpaceX after party.
See if you can pump the Go Searcher crew for GovSat info when they show up. ;)
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jim on 02/06/2018 08:30 PM
It was great meeting everybody.  Anytime somebody wants to meet before or after a launch, I am up for it.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: JasonAW3 on 02/06/2018 08:47 PM
Wish I could have been there!

      Maybe when they launch the BFR?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: cscott on 02/06/2018 08:49 PM
It's safe to admit now that I was sort of hoping for a scrub or delay; I was figuring I could fly down for the second attempt. Glad you first-attempters got a great show!

I'm really interested in the post-mortem, though: which of the sites turned out to have the best views/sound?
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jim on 02/06/2018 08:53 PM
The view and the sound from the VAB parking lot was amazing.  I left at booster staging and hauled butt down Kennedy parkway and pulled over just before NASA causeway and saw the entry and landing burns and then waited for the staccato of sonic booms.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jakusb on 02/06/2018 09:06 PM
Getting out of Jetty Park is taking forever.
I wanted to go to fishlips bar, but will take a while before I can get there.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: c on 02/06/2018 09:14 PM
POST MORTEM - VIEWING LOCATIONS

Saturn V Center viewing, sound effects, facilities, etc were spectacular. Liftoff view at 6km was unobscured across the water. De-orbit burn seemed right over our heads. The landing burn was viewable tho we obviously couldn’t see the last little bit due to distance (16km).

Highly recommended, gives LC-39 Observation Gantry a run for its money.

c
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Ike17055 on 02/06/2018 10:52 PM
Agree on all counts. Whoever suggested section C for seeing the landings between the buildings, THANK YOU. that was incredible.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jakusb on 02/06/2018 10:56 PM
Still on my way off Jetty Park. Major traffic jam west bound.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: psloss on 02/06/2018 11:57 PM
Still on my way off Jetty Park. Major traffic jam west bound.
Saw the same -- Beachline headed west towards Orlando was still bad three hours after liftoff.  SR 3 backed up headed in that direction, probably took 45 minutes to get through.  Looks like some of the traffic turned around and went A1A through Canaveral and Cocoa Beach, because that's busier tonight.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Harder on 02/07/2018 02:14 AM
Thanks to the expert guidance from forum members at the meetup I choose the Jetty Park location. And it lived up to its billing. Especially the synchronized return of the two boosters, right in front of me, was an unforgettable experience.
 
It took me 3 hours 40 min to return to my hotel along the A1A due to an enormous traffic jam in the Port Canaveral area all the way up to & including N Atlantic Ave. But hey, I was there, saw it all and that's what will be remembered.

Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: gongora on 02/07/2018 02:16 AM
Took almost 4 hours to get back to Cocoa Beach from Playalinda. Sight and sound of the launch from Playalinda was spectacular. Saw the reentry and landing burns for the side boosters.

Edit: all of the parking lots were open. We were allowed to watch from just South of the Lot 1 boardwalk.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: DigitalMan on 02/07/2018 02:28 AM
Agree on all counts. Whoever suggested section C for seeing the landings between the buildings, THANK YOU. that was incredible.

Thank you from me too landing view was perfect. 

Shout out to sprocket who was sitting in the row behind me.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CyndyC on 02/07/2018 06:14 PM
Panorama of launch viewing site at Port Canaveral.

Edit- Adding video format. It might even run backward for you without asking it to like it does for me
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: sghill on 02/07/2018 08:40 PM
Max Brewer bridge was terrific viewing. My first time there. It is up nice and high, so we could see the pad well, and also the landings in the distance.

It was the closest spot I could think of that also had food, drinks, and bathrooms (Crackerjacks Tiki Bar is A+ in my book after this trip). Made all the difference with all the delays and two little girls in tow.

I was amazed to clearly see the separation, boostback, and attitude thruster plumes the entire way back. The blowback, in particular, was stunning to see with the naked eye on such a clear day.

It took me 4 hours as well to get my car from one side of the bridge to the other. Titusville police were absent from any sort of traffic control at the intersection of Rt. 1, plus some dumb*ss got into a wreck that closed it to one lane right there.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: gongora on 02/08/2018 01:41 AM
It took me 4 hours as well to get my car from one side of the bridge to the other. Titusville police were absent from any sort of traffic control at the intersection of Rt. 1, plus some dumb*ss got into a wreck that closed it to one lane right there.

After two hours of trying to even reach the Max Brewer bridge from Playalinda I finally turned around and we took the road North through the Canaveral Seashore and eventually got over to 95, that wasn't quite as bad.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: Jakusb on 02/08/2018 07:02 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180208/b84a00793776e70e39c40a624206f2b2.jpg)
Zoom in to see the 2 boosters doing there landing burn.
Sight from Jetty Park.
I loved the atmosphere and wildlife there and it was a treat to have the company of a McGregor insider.
He made some videos of ascent and decent that were pretty awesome. I will post as soon as a receive them.

Today I visited KSC and ended up on the wrong side of the bus. Guide said it did not matter, as it turns around, but it doesn’t for pad 39A. So my tip: sit on the left side to have the best unobstructed view of 39A.

Unfortunately no open doors or parked cores, and guide did not know if core is inside.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: CeeJayDugan on 02/08/2018 04:11 PM
It was great to meet everyone at Fishlips on Monday night and those I saw at the Saturn Center Tuesday. What a day! I was amazed at how many people traveled from other countries to view the launch. I think I met NSF members from at least 5 or 6 countries. The launch was spectacular from our location. I'm rarely speechless but that really took my breath away. Lots of high-fives in the stands afterwards. Rockets really do bring people together. A big shout-out to Chris for organizing the Monday meet-up and for all the folks from NSF who contribiute and maintain this great website for all of us space geeks to hang out on.
Title: Re: Falcon Heavy - NASASpaceflight member meetup
Post by: WindnWar on 02/08/2018 05:18 PM
Took almost 4 hours to get back to Cocoa Beach from Playalinda. Sight and sound of the launch from Playalinda was spectacular. Saw the reentry and landing burns for the side boosters.

Edit: all of the parking lots were open. We were allowed to watch from just South of the Lot 1 boardwalk.

I was in Lot 3 which is maybe .2-.3 miles further down, there is a very long stretch of the boardwalk that leads to the beach that has a great view of the pad. It was a great spot to watch it from, with no random palm trees obscuring the view. And the bathroom is a very short walk from the boardwalk. I waited about an hour to leave and then sat in that traffic for about an hour an a half getting over the Max Brewer after. For future trips when the beach is open, I'd plan to pull off on the side of the road just before the lit info board just before you enter Merritt Island after crossing the Max Brewer, then you can go in as soon as they start letting cars through at six am. I spent the day at KSC yesterday before I headed back to SC. Saw the door open to the SpaceX hanger on 39A and what looked like a Falcon 9 parked in there, but was hard to get a good view of it on the bus. Made it back to SC at about 5am after a 500 mile drive back. There are a lot of deer on the side of the road between in Georgia at that hour!

What an awesome international crowd, where I was there was a Japanese TV crew, met a Dutch couple, and folks from all over the country, and many of them had to leave the next day so they were quite lucky there was not a scrub.

It was great to meet a bunch of you at Fishlips the night before. We will have to do this all again soon, maybe for the first Crew Dragon launch carrying a crew?