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Title: Yaogan-30-group 04 & Weina-1A - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: beidou on 12/28/2017 09:27 pm
According to 9ifly Yaogan-30 group-04 is planned for launch with CZ-2C from XSLC in late January before Chinese Spring Festival
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - Early 2018
Post by: Avengers on 12/29/2017 03:05 am
Shown here is January 29。http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/long-march-2c-rocket-launch-yaogan30-04
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 26, 2018
Post by: Satori on 01/12/2018 05:50 pm
According to Spaceflightfans.cn, launch is now schedule for January 26.
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 26, 2018
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 01/12/2018 11:12 pm
Given:
China launches in 2017 (times in UTC)
<several snips>
09 - September 29 (04:21:05.318) - CZ-2C (Y29) - XSLC, LC3 - YG-30-01 Yaogan Weixing-30-01A, B, C (CX-5 Changxin-5 (1A, 1B, 1C))
11 - November 5 (11:45:04.244) - CZ-3B/YZ-1 (Y46/Y4) - XSLC, LC2 - Beidou-3MEO1 (Beidou-24); Beidou-3MEO2 (Beidou-25)
14 - November 24 (18:10:05.130) - CZ-2C (Y33) - XSLC, LC3 - Yaogan 30-02A, B, C (CX-5 Changxin-5 (2A, 2B, 2C))
16 - December 10 (16:40:04.230) - CZ-3B/G2 (Y40) - XSLC, LC2 - AlComSat-1
18 - December 25 (19:42:05.269) - CZ-2C (Y34) - XSLC, LC3 - YG-30-03 Yaogan Weixing-30-03A, B, C (CX-5 Changxin-5 (3A, 3B, 3C))


December 25
And:
China launches in 2018 (times in UTC)
<snip>
02 - January 11 (23:18:04.616) - CZ-3B/YZ-1 (Y45/Y5) - XSLC (07-82), LC2 - Beidou-3MEO7 'Beidou-26'; Beidou-3MEO8 'Beidou-27'

China launch schedule

2018
<snip>
January 26 29 - CZ-2C - XSLC, LC3 - YG-30-04 Yaogan Weixing-30-04A, B, C (CX-5 Changxin-5 (4A, 4B, 4C))

January 12

And given that successive orbital launches from Xichang can happen as quickly as a 2-3 week interval;

It tracks that, given no other information, such as a satellite or launch vehicle processing delay, this launch can happen on January 26.
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 26, 2018
Post by: Satori on 01/22/2018 01:36 pm
Spaceflightfans.cn has a photo of a CZ-2C at the launch pad in Xichang. Not sure if this refer to the YG-30-04 mission, though.
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 26, 2018
Post by: Avengers on 01/22/2018 02:29 pm
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Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (~05:40 UTC)
Post by: Liss on 01/22/2018 05:59 pm
This launch seems to go to the December plane #3.
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (~05:40 UTC)
Post by: gosnold on 01/23/2018 07:22 pm
This launch seems to go to the December plane #3.

Curious, if the CCTV pictures are to be trusted, the satellites are small so the rocket should have a lot of spare capacity. So one launch per plane looked reasonable. Maybe it's an optical/radar component whereas the others were allegedly SIGINT?
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (~05:40 UTC)
Post by: jcm on 01/25/2018 03:48 am
Per the thread title, launch expected in under an hour. Any updates?
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (~05:40 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/25/2018 04:19 am
Per the thread title, launch expected in under an hour. Any updates?

People seems to be waiting for the launch as of 2 hours ago.
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (~05:40 UTC)
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 01/25/2018 04:34 am
Here is SpacefFlightFans web page. Bit slow to load.

http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/long-march-2c-rocket-launch-yaogan30-04?instance_id=1254
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (~05:40 UTC)
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 01/25/2018 04:36 am
The clock on the page is counting down. About 1.5 minutes to launch according to them.
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (~05:40 UTC)
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 01/25/2018 04:38 am
Launch should be happening about now.
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (~05:40 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/25/2018 04:42 am
Liftoff confirmed.
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (~05:40 UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/25/2018 04:45 am
Rui's article! :)

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/01/long-march-2c-yaogan-weixing-30-4/
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (~05:40 UTC)
Post by: chewi on 01/25/2018 05:00 am
Launch video

https://weibo.com/6180132521/G01Zj1cAA
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (~05:40 UTC)
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 01/25/2018 05:15 am
Launch video

https://weibo.com/6180132521/G01Zj1cAA

I couldn't watch the video, but I was able to download it.
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (~05:40 UTC)
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 01/25/2018 05:15 am
Here's a screen grab.
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (~05:40 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/25/2018 05:21 am
Launch success has been officially confirmed. T-0 was at 05:39 UTC.

Source (http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/pnhpimNd191Q5BxgNlBb0g)
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (~05:40 UTC)
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 01/25/2018 05:27 am
Launch success has been officially confirmed. T-0 was at 05:39 UTC.

Source (http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/pnhpimNd191Q5BxgNlBb0g)

Thanks! Here's a Bing translation and photos.

"January 25 13:39, the Long march of the second-C launch vehicle in China's Xichang Satellite Launch Center, with one arrow Samsung successfully launched the remote sensing 30th 04 Group of satellites, the satellite then entered a predetermined orbit."
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: chewi on 01/25/2018 05:35 am
This article says that WeiNa-1A / 微纳-1A satellite is also onboard.

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/gBrysphQQn6IO0d5AbP6Bg
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 01/25/2018 05:50 am
This article says that WeiNa-1A / 微纳-1A satellite is also onboard.

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/gBrysphQQn6IO0d5AbP6Bg

Launch images.
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/25/2018 06:07 am
Let's see if Launch code is "07-84"
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: chewi on 01/25/2018 06:26 am
China launches remote sensing satellites
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-01/25/c_136924069.htm (http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-01/25/c_136924069.htm)

XICHANG, Jan. 25 (Xinhua) -- China launched remote sensing satellites at 1:39 p.m.(Beijing Time) Thursday on a Long March-2C carrier rocket from Xichang Satellite Launch Center in southwest China's Sichuan Province.

The satellites have entered their preset orbit and the launch was proclaimed a success.
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/25/2018 07:04 am
This article says that WeiNa-1A / 微纳-1A satellite is also onboard.

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/gBrysphQQn6IO0d5AbP6Bg

.....and at http://www.microsate.com/news.aspx?class=1&id=116 (http://www.microsate.com/news.aspx?class=1&id=116) the satellite is called CX-6-06.  ::)
(nevermind we don't know what satellites CX-6-01 to 05 are!  :-X)
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 01/25/2018 07:43 am
Photos from Xinhua:
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: FutureSpaceTourist on 01/25/2018 08:20 am
Quote
More staggeringly close-up footage of China's Long March 2C (hydrazine+N2O4) rocket launch early today with 3x Yaogan reconnaissance sats (report: goo.gl/Z3DPmB)

https://twitter.com/aj_fi/status/956432616617578496
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/25/2018 09:56 am
4 objects have been cataloged by USSTRATCOM

2018-011A/43169 in 585 x 613 km x 34.95°
2018-011B/43170 in 599 x 606 km x 35.00°
2018-011C/43171 in 588 x 603km x 35.00°
2018-011D/43172 in 535 x 607 km x 35.00°

The 3 satellites (objects A, B and C) appear to be in the same plane (RAAN of 184° this morning) as group#3 as Liss predicted
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: Phillip Clark on 01/25/2018 10:03 am
4 objects have been cataloged by USSTRATCOM
2018-011A/43169 in 585 x 613 km x 34.95°
2018-011B/43170 in 599 x 606 km x 35.00°
2018-011C/43171 in 588 x 603km x 35.00°
2018-011D/43172 in 535 x 607 km x 35.00°
The 3 satellites (objects A, B and C) appear to be in the same plane (RAAN of 184° this morning) as group#3 as Liss predicted

I would guess that D is the rocket stage, but when Weina 1A is spotted in orbit I would expect that to become D and the rocket stage get a new international designator E and fresh catalogue number.
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/25/2018 10:06 am
Short launch video at: http://tv.cctv.com/2018/01/25/VIDEHYzgvQpr5GibQ1KXCwfN180125.shtml

Launch code is not very clear, but looks like "07-84"
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: Phillip Clark on 01/25/2018 10:15 am
The way that the Chinese are, I am not even taking the "07" part of the launch code for granted!! ;)
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/25/2018 10:18 am
A better control room view (via 9ifly) confirming launch code as "07-84" and lift-off at 05:39:04.986 UTC
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/25/2018 11:23 am
A short video from the military TV channel
http://tv.cctv.com/2018/01/25/VIDEMb05Ki6roYTryDXeoJaR180125.shtml

The deployment of 4 satellites is illustrated including Weina-1A (in the red box)
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/25/2018 11:43 am
AFAIU "Wēinà-1A Wèixīng" (微纳-1A”卫星) translates as "micro-nano-1A satellite"
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: Alter Sachse on 01/25/2018 01:04 pm
Anyone found the rocket serial number ??
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: limen4 on 01/25/2018 07:04 pm
AFAIU "Wēinà-1A Wèixīng" (微纳-1A”卫星) translates as "micro-nano-1A satellite"
In August 2017 a company named Beijing Micro-Nano Star Technology Co., Ltd. was established. In an interview the general manager anounced the launch of 6 satellites in 2018 (http://tech.ifeng.com/a/20171229/44825398_0.shtml).
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/25/2018 07:18 pm
4 objects have been cataloged by USSTRATCOM
2018-011A/43169 in 585 x 613 km x 34.95°
2018-011B/43170 in 599 x 606 km x 35.00°
2018-011C/43171 in 588 x 603km x 35.00°
2018-011D/43172 in 535 x 607 km x 35.00°
The 3 satellites (objects A, B and C) appear to be in the same plane (RAAN of 184° this morning) as group#3 as Liss predicted

I would guess that D is the rocket stage, but when Weina 1A is spotted in orbit I would expect that to become D and the rocket stage get a new international designator E and fresh catalogue number.
Well, here is Object E:
2018-011E/43173 in 396 x 603 x 34.96°
which looks like the rocket stage, so D could be Weina-1A
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 01/27/2018 07:33 am
Reshuffled classification in the Catalog:

2018-011A    43169    PAYLOAD    WEINA 1A    96.64min    35.00°    601km    595km
2018-011B    43170    PAYLOAD    YAOGAN-30 K    96.62min    34.99°    602km    592km
2018-011C    43171    PAYLOAD    YAOGAN-30 L    96.62min    34.99°    602km    591km
2018-011D    43172    PAYLOAD    YAOGAN-30 M    96.61min    34.99°    602km    591km
2018-011E    43173    ROCKET BODY    CZ-2C R/B    94.60min    34.97°    603km    395km

Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: GELORD on 01/29/2018 07:57 pm
CZ-2C  Y36
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: Liss on 02/03/2018 08:30 pm
This article says that WeiNa-1A / 微纳-1A satellite is also onboard.

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/gBrysphQQn6IO0d5AbP6Bg

.....and at http://www.microsate.com/news.aspx?class=1&id=116 (http://www.microsate.com/news.aspx?class=1&id=116) the satellite is called CX-6-06.  ::)
(nevermind we don't know what satellites CX-6-01 to 05 are!  :-X)
In fact we do know that the hires multispectral bird launched with Tansat in Dec 2016 was CZ-6(02): http://new.qq.com/omn/20171222G0GRRU.html
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: limen4 on 02/04/2018 02:46 pm
AFAIU "Wēinà-1A Wèixīng" (微纳-1A”卫星) translates as "micro-nano-1A satellite"
In August 2017 a company named Beijing Micro-Nano Star Technology Co., Ltd. was established. In an interview the general manager anounced the launch of 6 satellites in 2018 (http://tech.ifeng.com/a/20171229/44825398_0.shtml).
My post is obsolete. It is now clear that the mentioned company is not the producer of the satellite. It is a bird of the Shanghai Micro Satellite Engineering Center
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: Liss on 02/04/2018 03:02 pm
The three satellites have already finished their in-plane separation yielding a paradoxal structure -- all the three are located between the two CX-5 birds from the December launch.

I'm at a loss at seeing this. The Chinese have nine such gaps -- three in each of the three planes -- and eight of the nine are empty as of today. Would the Shanghai team add eight more triplets?

Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 02/04/2018 03:36 pm
The three satellites have already finished their in-plane separation yielding a paradoxal structure -- all the three are located between the two CX-5 birds from the December launch.

I'm at a loss at seeing this. The Chinese have nine such gaps -- three in each of the three planes -- and eight of the nine are empty as of today. Would the Shanghai team add eight more triplets?


What's the vertical scale?
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: gwiz on 02/04/2018 03:47 pm
I'm at a loss at seeing this. The Chinese have nine such gaps -- three in each of the three planes -- and eight of the nine are empty as of today. Would the Shanghai team add eight more triplets?
In-orbit spares?
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: Liss on 02/04/2018 05:04 pm
The three satellites have already finished their in-plane separation yielding a paradoxal structure -- all the three are located between the two CX-5 birds from the December launch.

I'm at a loss at seeing this. The Chinese have nine such gaps -- three in each of the three planes -- and eight of the nine are empty as of today. Would the Shanghai team add eight more triplets?


What's the vertical scale?
Time in minutes in orbit.
More precisely, fractional part of [time from 01 Jan 2017 00:00 UTC / orbital period in stable orbit].
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: gosnold on 02/04/2018 05:22 pm
The three satellites have already finished their in-plane separation yielding a paradoxal structure -- all the three are located between the two CX-5 birds from the December launch.

I'm at a loss at seeing this. The Chinese have nine such gaps -- three in each of the three planes -- and eight of the nine are empty as of today. Would the Shanghai team add eight more triplets?

Maybe they want/can afford truly continuous coverage only at certain times? Or it's different sensors with a smaller swath? But I agree that's weird.
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: jcm on 02/05/2018 09:48 pm
AFAIU "Wēinà-1A Wèixīng" (微纳-1A”卫星) translates as "micro-nano-1A satellite"
In August 2017 a company named Beijing Micro-Nano Star Technology Co., Ltd. was established. In an interview the general manager anounced the launch of 6 satellites in 2018 (http://tech.ifeng.com/a/20171229/44825398_0.shtml).
My post is obsolete. It is now clear that the mentioned company is not the producer of the satellite. It is a bird of the Shanghai Micro Satellite Engineering Center

It's clear it's not the producer but could it be the owner?  Just like QTT are the owner of the center's TY-6?
Title: Re: Yaogan-30-group 04 - CZ-2C - XSLC - January 25, 2018 (05:39 UTC)
Post by: limen4 on 02/06/2018 06:52 pm
AFAIU "Wēinà-1A Wèixīng" (微纳-1A”卫星) translates as "micro-nano-1A satellite"
In August 2017 a company named Beijing Micro-Nano Star Technology Co., Ltd. was established. In an interview the general manager anounced the launch of 6 satellites in 2018 (http://tech.ifeng.com/a/20171229/44825398_0.shtml).
My post is obsolete. It is now clear that the mentioned company is not the producer of the satellite. It is a bird of the Shanghai Micro Satellite Engineering Center

It's clear it's not the producer but could it be the owner?  Just like QTT are the owner of the center's TY-6?
A translation of the quoted article rather signals that Micro Nano Star is actually a developer and manufacturer of small satellites.