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International Space Flight (ESA, Russia, China and others) => Chinese Launchers => Topic started by: SmallKing on 08/30/2017 01:20 pm
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Haha, pay attention to the presentation on the background :)
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A famous insider leaked the names of six satellites
六颗星分别是“吉林一号高分02A星”、“向日葵一号A星”、“向日葵一号B星”、“欧科微一号”、“天仪四号”、“中卫一号”
http://weibo.com/6065432153/FjvxB70JZ?ref=home&rid=2_0_8_3071657067060583422&type=comment
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A famous insider leaked the names of six satellites
六颗星分别是“吉林一号高分02A星”、“向日葵一号A星”、“向日葵一号B星”、“欧科微一号”、“天仪四号”、“中卫一号”
http://weibo.com/6065432153/FjvxB70JZ?ref=home&rid=2_0_8_3071657067060583422&type=comment
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-08/30/c_136568503.htm
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translation would be great.
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translation would be great.
I am afraid the bad translation will confuse you guys,
it would be nice if there are some official translation of the names, and I am looking for it
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“吉林一号高分02A星” - jí lín yī hào gāo fēn xīng - Jilin-1 (2A) (High resolution?)
“向日葵一号A星” - xiàng rì kuí yī hào xīng - Sunflower-1A
“向日葵一号B星” - xiàng rì kuí yī hào xīng - Sunflower-1B
“欧科微一号” - ōu kē wēi yī hào - Ouke Micro-1
“天仪四号” - tiān yí sì háo - Tianyi-4
“中卫一号” - zhōng wèi yī hào - Zhongwei-1
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KZ-11运载火箭一子级模态试验
Translated from Chinese by Bing
One-stage modal test of KZ-11 launch vehicle
https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/923897693797171201 (https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/923897693797171201)
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same question as the guy in the twitter post...
First picture...are those grid fins?
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same question as the guy in the twitter post...
First picture...are those grid fins?
Correct
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Still on track to launch on Jan. 17
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Still on track to launch on Jan. 17
I thought the Jan. 17 one is for its competitor, the Long March 11. ::)
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Still on track to launch on Jan. 17
I thought the Jan. 17 one is for its competitor, the Long March 11. ::)
Sorry, I made a mistake, wrong thread :o
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China's Kuaizhou-11 rocket scheduled to launch in first half of 2018 (http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-12/31/c_136863361.htm).
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From the article.
"The launch cost of the Kuaizhou rockets has been reduced to 5,000 U.S. dollars per kg of payload, which is considerably lower than its international competitors, according to Zhang."
That's about 10 times cheaper than new Western small launch vehicles!
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Tentatively scheduled for late February, 2020:
http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/kz-11-rocket-first-launch?instance_id=3017
【2020年01月04日】航天爱好者网获悉，此次任务将于2020年02月底发射，本站暂定为2020年02月25日至29日发射。
[January 04, 2020] The space enthusiast network is informed that the mission will be launched at the end of February 2020, and this site is tentatively scheduled to be launched from February 25 to 29, 2020.
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Belated cross-post re: same:
According to Spaaceflightfans.cn, the first launch of a KZ-11 rocket is schedule for February 25 (TBC).
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“吉林一号高分02A星” - jí lín yī hào gāo fēn xīng - Jilin-1 (2A) (High resolution?)
“向日葵一号A星” - xiàng rì kuí yī hào xīng - Sunflower-1A
“向日葵一号B星” - xiàng rì kuí yī hào xīng - Sunflower-1B
“欧科微一号” - ōu kē wēi yī hào - Ouke Micro-1
“天仪四号” - tiān yí sì háo - Tianyi-4
“中卫一号” - zhōng wèi yī hào - Zhongwei-1
These six satellites are also listed on the current spaceflightfans.cn page (http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/kz-11-rocket-first-launch?instance_id=3017), but 吉林一号高分02A星 (Jilin-1 Gaofen-02A) already launched on 13 Nov. 2019 on a KZ-1A:
* https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=49269.0
* http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/kz-1a-rocket-launch-jilin-1-gaofen-02a-satellite
So we may assume that this > 2 years old payload list is outdated. Are there any updates?
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Launch will slip.
Expace, a launch service provider for solid-propellant Kuaizhou rockets, has temporarily halted work due to its proximity to the epicenter of the [corona virus] outbreak. A new Kuaizhou-11 rocket, larger than the Kuaizhou-1A currently in service, was reportedly scheduled for a test flight late February.
https://spacenews.com/chinas-space-industry-faces-impacts-of-coronavirus-outbreak/
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Another rocket Kuaizhou 11 (KZ-11) sent to the spaceport? CCTV News Video
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Another rocket Kuaizhou 11 (KZ-11) sent to the spaceport? CCTV News Video
KZ-11-1 Should be for:
?? - KZ-11 - JSLC - Jiama Shexian Bao Tance Weixing (Gamma ray burst detection micro satellite), Tianiy-4 (Xiaoxiang-4), Zhongwei-1, Xianrikui-1A, Xianrikui-1B, Yijian Duoxing
2 other 2020 launches are also listed on the schedule.
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Launching in late June:
https://twitter.com/cosmic_penguin/status/1267418995809898496
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According to someone at CASIC (http://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=90547&pid=747439) the main payloads on this flight are Jilin-1 High Resolution-02E (= "BilibiliSat" as mentioned in the post above) and CentiSpace-1 S2, at around 180 kg and 100 kg respectively. They are going to different orbits.
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Launch is listed as between July 8 and July 11, TBD (http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/kz-11-rocket-first-launch?instance_id=3017).
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Is this NOTAM related to this launch?
A2436/20 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3302N09743E021
A) ZLHW B) 2007042337 C) 2007050005
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N324156E0974717-N324547E0972837-N332234E0973918-N331840E0975805
BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. ALL ACFT SHALL BE
FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE RESTRICTED AREA.
F) GND G) UNL
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Is this NOTAM related to this launch?
A2436/20 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3302N09743E021
A) ZLHW B) 2007042337 C) 2007050005
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N324156E0974717-N324547E0972837-N332234E0973918-N331840E0975805
BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. ALL ACFT SHALL BE
FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE RESTRICTED AREA.
F) GND G) UNL
No, there's a LM-2D flight reported to fly before it and this is apparently for that one.
[zubenelgenubi: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=51126.msg2102700#msg2102700 ]
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A2555/20 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3835N09941E008
A) ZLHW B) 2007100402 C) 2007100425
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N382808E0994326-N382855E0993636-N384250E0993911-N384204E0994601
BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. ALL ACFT SHALL BE
FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE RESTRICTED AREA.
F) GND G) UNL
July 10 @ ~04:10 UTC
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SFF has this launching at 04:11 UTC.
http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/kz-11-rocket-first-launch?instance_id=3457
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YouTube mirror of livestream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePnOnLvStiU
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SFF has this launching at 04:11 UTC.
http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/kz-11-rocket-first-launch?instance_id=3457
They now say 04:17 UTC.
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9ifly thread.
http://9ifly.spacety.com/thread-90547-11-1.html
This post also says launch at 04:17 UTC.
http://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=90547&pid=752227
"Lin Xiaoyi
1 hour ago from Air Love Brand Android
Today at 12:17 am launch, less than four hours before launch, space enthusiasts network super-talk wish the first flight mission of the 11th carrier rocket a complete success."
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Webcast has started.
Anyone have the direct link?
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T-5 minutes. Showing some origami.
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Standby for stream start.
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Now playing with zucchinis!
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Launch should be happening about now.
Blurred view of vehicle on pad.
http://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=90547&pid=752157
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Zucchini rocket.
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Here's the direct link to the stream.
https://live.bilibili.com/22319445?from=search&seid=12673350748525676743
To get rid of the comments on the screen click on the third icon from the bottom right and slide the top bar all the way to the left.
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Apparently liftoff confirmed (https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4525114043591853)
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Second stage separation.
http://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=90547&pid=752280
"The second level has been separated and everything is now normal."
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Need to wait a while before confirmation of successful launch. 4000 seconds is 1 hour, 6 minutes and 40 seconds.
http://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=90547&pid=752283
"Say to fly more than 4000 seconds, more than an hour, to have a taxi section."
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Need to wait a while before confirmation of successful launch. 4000 seconds is 1 hour, 6 minutes and 40 seconds.
http://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=90547&pid=752283
"Say to fly more than 4000 seconds, more than an hour, to have a taxi section."
Proper translation of the above post:
It's said to fly for over 4000 seconds (more than an hour), and should have a coasting phase
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Some MommyTalk while we wait!
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Looks like the BilliBilli stream has ended, but it wasn't showing anything useful.
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https://twitter.com/TheElegant055/status/1281448821961170945
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Screen grabs from the video.
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Looks like launch is a failure
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Problem with the launch or satellite?
http://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=90547&pid=752306
"It seems that the news from Xiaotai is not very good."
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Problem with the launch or satellite?
http://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=90547&pid=752306
"It seems that the news from Xiaotai is not very good."
Rocket was still in coasting phase. Looks like a problem with the former.
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Not looking good.
http://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=90547&pid=752307
"Our space.
7 minutes ago from HUAWEI P20 Pro
Since it is a scientific experiment, there will always be success and failure. If we succeed, we gain experience;"
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Xinhua has confirmed failure (http://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=90547&pid=752335&fromuid=19646).
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Launch was at 04:11 UTC.
http://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=90547&pid=752335
"On July 10th, at 12:11, China organized the first flight of the new solid rocket of The Express Boat 11 at the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center. Subsequently, experts will be organized to investigate and analyze the cause of the failure. (Xinhua)"
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Launch was at 04:11 UTC.
http://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=90547&pid=752335
"On July 10th, at 12:11, China organized the first flight of the new solid rocket of The Express Boat 11 at the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center. Subsequently, experts will be organized to investigate and analyze the cause of the failure. (Xinhua)"
Others said 04:17, will have to see which one is correct.
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Here's one from Our Space that says 04:17 UTC.
http://9ifly.spacety.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=90547&pid=752348
"At 12:17 on the 10th, China organized the first mission of the Express Boat 11 carrier rocket at the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center, and the rocket flight was abnormal and the launch mission was lost. The specific causes are being further analysed and examined.
The fast boat 11 launch vehicle has a diameter of 2.2 meters, a take-off mass of 78 tons and a capacity of 1 ton in the sun synchronous orbit of 700 kilometers, which is a new solid launch vehicle with the strongest carrying capacity, the largest take-off mass and the largest diameter of the arrow body. Our space"
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12:17 local time
http://www.chinanews.com/gn/2020/07-10/9234694.shtml
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From Xinhua
http://www.xinhuanet.com/tech/2020-07/10/c_1126221557.htm
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in English:
China's Kuaizhou-11 carrier rocket fails in maiden flight
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-07/10/c_139202652.htm
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This is the sixth worldwide launch failure this year, and we're barely halfway through; it's set to be a bit of a bloodbath. Still a few more maiden launches set to go, too.
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Rui's article:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2020/07/kuaizhou-11-fails-maiden-launch/
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1281558544609882112
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Five of the failures were first flights.
* 9 Feb 20 Simorgh F4
*16 Mar 20 CZ-7A F1
*23 Mar 20 Rocket 3.0 (1 of 3)
* 9 Apr 20 CZ-3B/E F1
*25 May 20 LauncherOne F1
* 4 Jul 20 Electron F13
*10 Jul 20 KZ-11 F1
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Five of the failures were first flights.
* 9 Feb 20 Simorgh F4
*16 Mar 20 CZ-7A F1
*23 Mar 20 Rocket 3.0 (1 of 3)
* 9 Apr 20 CZ-3B/E F1
*25 May 20 LauncherOne F1
* 4 Jul 20 Electron F13
*10 Jul 20 KZ-11 F1
I don’t think Rocket 3.0 was a failure because it never left the ground.
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Five of the failures were first flights.
* 9 Feb 20 Simorgh F4
*16 Mar 20 CZ-7A F1
*23 Mar 20 Rocket 3.0 (1 of 3)
* 9 Apr 20 CZ-3B/E F1
*25 May 20 LauncherOne F1
* 4 Jul 20 Electron F13
*10 Jul 20 KZ-11 F1
I don’t think Rocket 3.0 was a failure because it never left the ground.
Agreed, first there was a 'no launch' (scrub) and then there was an explosion during pad testing not associated with a launch attempt; I characterize that as an industrial accident rather than a space launch failure.
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As well as the failure this has background on the general ambitions of the company behind this launcher.
https://spacenews.com/first-launch-of-chinese-kuaizhou-11-rocket-ends-in-failure/
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https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1281633423749087234
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Five of the failures were first flights.
* 9 Feb 20 Simorgh F4
*16 Mar 20 CZ-7A F1
*23 Mar 20 Rocket 3.0 (1 of 3)
* 9 Apr 20 CZ-3B/E F1
*25 May 20 LauncherOne F1
* 4 Jul 20 Electron F13
*10 Jul 20 KZ-11 F1
I don’t think Rocket 3.0 was a failure because it never left the ground.
Agreed, first there was a 'no launch' (scrub) and then there was an explosion during pad testing not associated with a launch attempt; I characterize that as an industrial accident rather than a space launch failure.
It's just like the AMOS 6 explosion.
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When was the last time China failed three orbital launches in a year (if ever)?
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Five of the failures were first flights.
* 9 Feb 20 Simorgh F4
*16 Mar 20 CZ-7A F1
*23 Mar 20 Rocket 3.0 (1 of 3)
* 9 Apr 20 CZ-3B/E F1
*25 May 20 LauncherOne F1
* 4 Jul 20 Electron F13
*10 Jul 20 KZ-11 F1
I don’t think Rocket 3.0 was a failure because it never left the ground.
Agreed, first there was a 'no launch' (scrub) and then there was an explosion during pad testing not associated with a launch attempt; I characterize that as an industrial accident rather than a space launch failure.
It's just like the AMOS 6 explosion.
And VLS in 2003.
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CZ-3B/E is not a new variant of the rocket and in fact is an old designation for the series.
CZ-3B/E was first introduced in 2007 and includes three variants: the CZ-3B/G2, CZ-3B/G3, and CZ-3B/YZ-1.
If you look into my older articles about Chinese launches, this designation was already used.
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When was the last time China failed three orbital launches in a year (if ever)?
Never to my knowledge, but then again China for many years (1971-2006 and 2009) performed less than 10 orbital launches per year, almost all using the same launch vehicle family. During the past few years, China has begun introducing numerous (at least eight) new launch vehicle families like the CZ-5 family and smaller solid motor rockets, which naturally have higher failure rates during their early attempts.
- Ed Kyle
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NIHU5BF_to
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This video has been released in a series through CCTV-1.https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1478414892935745537
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I wouldn't say it low quality, it just a regular romance and family drama with the usual plotlines of dating, marriage, car accidents, family sickness, house hunting, in laws fighting each other and normal workplace drama plots (basically substituting game/clothing line/website launches with rocket launches) etc. Only that the main characters happens to be aerospace engineers, and there are rocket launch videos spliced in between. Interesting the drama starts with the 1996 CZ-3B disaster, and how the group of character move from that low point to the present day. Just don't expect any technical points or insights. Still worth a watch if you have no idea how Chinese space industry or any other workplace functions at all.
episode 1 here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mVheudyC28
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The fairing looks a bit unusual.
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I wouldn't say it low quality, it just a regular romance and family drama with the usual plotlines of dating, marriage, car accidents, family sickness, house hunting, in laws fighting each other and normal workplace drama plots (basically substituting game/clothing line/website launches with rocket launches) etc. Only that the main characters happens to be aerospace engineers, and there are rocket launch videos spliced in between. Interesting the drama starts with the 1996 CZ-3B disaster, and how the group of character move from that low point to the present day. Just don't expect any technical points or insights. Still worth a watch if you have no idea how Chinese space industry or any other workplace functions at all.
Do they clone the Saturn V in the Series?
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I wouldn't say it low quality, it just a regular romance and family drama with the usual plotlines of dating, marriage, car accidents, family sickness, house hunting, in laws fighting each other and normal workplace drama plots (basically substituting game/clothing line/website launches with rocket launches) etc. Only that the main characters happens to be aerospace engineers, and there are rocket launch videos spliced in between. Interesting the drama starts with the 1996 CZ-3B disaster, and how the group of character move from that low point to the present day. Just don't expect any technical points or insights. Still worth a watch if you have no idea how Chinese space industry or any other workplace functions at all.
Do they clone the Saturn V in the Series?
No, but that's clearly a saturn V. so it's either a generic representation of a rocket in the intro or it is used as inspiration for one of the character's childhood. It would not be surprising for footage of the moon landing and giant saturn V to inspire someone to get into the field.