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Title: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: ืnewsman on 05/18/2017 03:23 pm
(Xinhua) 21:03, May 17, 2017
JAKARTA, May 17 (Xinhua) -- Senior officials of Chinese firm China Great Wall IndustryCorporation (CGWIC) and Indonesian firm Palapa Satelit Nusa Sejahtera (PSNS) Wednesday signed a purchase contract for the latter's satellite system, namely PALAPA-N1, scheduled to orbit in first half of 2020.

PALAPA-N1 communication satellite project is the first communication satellite of Indonesia that is produced by China.

PSNS is a joint venture enterprise of prominent telecommunication firm operating in Indonesia, Indosat Ooredoo, and Pasifik Satelit Nusantara (PSN).

Under the contract, CGWIC is responsible for in orbit delivery of the PALAPA N1. CGWICshall provide a package solution with the products and services to its Indonesian client, including the satellite, the rocket launching service, ground system, insurance andfinancing support.

The PALAPA-N1 satellite, which is designed to replace the PALAPA D, will be launched toits orbit slot at 113°E in the geostationary arc by Long March 3B launch vehicle from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in China.

PALAPA-N1 will provide the latest technology of High Throughput Satellite for broadcast and broadband telecommunications.

Speaking on the sideline of the signing ceremony, Indosat Ooredoo CEO Alexander Ruslisaid the new satellite would greatly help broadband penetration among the society in Indonesia.

"It would also help accelerating the creation of digital society in Indonesia, support thegovernment's plan to make Indonesia the largest digital state in Southeast Asia," he added.

The contract signing was witnessed by Indonesian Informatics and Communications Minister Rudiantara, Chinese Embassy Charge d'Affaires Sun Weide and Vice President of China Aerospace Science & Technology Corporation (CASC), the parent firm of CGWIC, Yang Baohua.

CGWIC President Yin Liming said the satellite would significantly improve the broadcastand broadband in Indonesia.

"It would also be an embodiment of friendship between Chinese and Indonesian people," he said in a statement.

CGWIC won the contract after undergoing a strict auction process considering technical, manufacturing period and cost efficiency. It brushed competitors from Europe and the United States to get the contract.

The PALAPA-N1 satellite is developed by China Academy of Space Technology (CAST), a subsidiary of CASC.

The PALAPA-N1's satellite system is designed to have lifetime of more than 16 years, to be equipped with a total of 42 transponders.
http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/0517/c90000-9216997.html
Title: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: Satori on 02/29/2020 02:09 pm
Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) to be launched in April 2020.
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 2020
Post by: input~2 on 03/25/2020 02:35 pm
New target launch date: May 2020
source (https://nuansa-electronics.blogspot.com/2020/03/siap-siap-satelit-palapa-d-akan.html)
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 2020
Post by: PM3 on 03/25/2020 05:48 pm
New target launch date: May 2020
source (https://nuansa-electronics.blogspot.com/2020/03/siap-siap-satelit-palapa-d-akan.html)

The original release by Indotelko is dated 14 February - three weeks before Covid-19 hit Indonesia:

https://www.indotelko.com/read/1550115346/satelit-palapa-mei-2020
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC -May 2020
Post by: zandr on 04/01/2020 08:06 am
From Xinhua
China to launch communication satellite for Indonesia (http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-04/01/c_138937376.htm)
Quote
...Palapa-N1 was built on an enhanced Dongfanghong-4 communication satellite platform by the China Academy of Space Technology (CAST), and will be launched by a Long March-3B carrier rocket developed by the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology...
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC -April? 2020
Post by: input~2 on 04/01/2020 08:35 am
Potential launch in April
Quote
"At the beginning of March 2020, we completed the satellite pre-shipment review and the results can take the satellites to launch in early April,"
source (https://market.bisnis.com/read/20200401/192/1220868/satelit-perusahaan-patungan-indosat-isat-siap-mengangkasa-awal-april)
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April? 2020
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/05/2020 04:12 am
Seems like this one is going to be launched on April 9 at around 11:15 UTC?
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April? 2020
Post by: starbase on 04/05/2020 09:14 am
Seems like this one is going to be launched on April 9 at around 11:15 UTC?

Image mentions webcast, likely here: https://www.youtube.com/user/PSNengage
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April? 2020
Post by: input~2 on 04/05/2020 02:53 pm
Seems like this one is going to be launched on April 9 at around 11:15 UTC?
Partial Translation from Indonesian:
- Follow Instagram PSN
- Post your photos or videos to your Instagram Story and the Instagram tag PSN@pasifiksatelitnusantara
- Photos and videos will be posted back at Instagram PSN

Watch live streaming of the launch of Nusantara Dua on April 9, 2020 at exactly 18:15 Western Indonesia Time [UTC+7]
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 11:15 UTC
Post by: input~2 on 04/05/2020 03:06 pm
PSN, Indosat, PNS to launch Nusantara Dua satellite this month (https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/04/02/psn-indosat-pns-to-launch-nusantara-dua-satellite-this-month.html)
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 11:15 UTC
Post by: input~2 on 04/05/2020 03:37 pm
From PSN Instagram account
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 11:15 UTC
Post by: input~2 on 04/06/2020 08:06 am
3 days to go
Live Webcast confirmed on https://www.youtube.com/user/PSNengage (https://www.youtube.com/user/PSNengage)
Not clear if 18:15 LT is the launch time or the start of the Webcast
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 11:15 UTC
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/07/2020 04:54 am
From the graphic, I think the webcast starts at 18:00 local with liftoff at 18:15.
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 11:15 UTC
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/08/2020 07:13 am
Based on the NOTAMs below the launch time might be closer to 11:45 UTC?

A0909/20 NOTAMN
Q) ZPKM/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2719N10808E026
A) ZPKM B) 2004091138 C) 2004091225
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N272159E1083649-N273125E1074312-N271528E1073945-N270603E1083315
BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL. ALL ACFT SHALL BE
FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE RESTRICTED AREA.
F) GND G) UNL

A0910/20 NOTAMN
Q) ZXXX/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2604N11413E016
A) ZSHA ZGZU B) 2004091139 C) 2004091225
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N260808E1142920-N261443E1140013-N255857E1135552-N255222E1142456
BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL. ALL ACFT SHALL BE
FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE RESTRICTED AREA.
F) GND G) UNL
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: input~2 on 04/08/2020 09:04 am
Let's see if launch code is "867-34"
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: input~2 on 04/08/2020 10:30 am
From PSN Instagram
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: input~2 on 04/08/2020 12:09 pm
[NAVTEX Navigational Warnings]
NANSEI SHOTO. SSE OF MIYAKO SHIMA. HAZARDOUS OPERATION DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT
NO.20-0634 Date:2020/04/08 09 UTC
NANSEI SHOTO. SSE OF MIYAKO SHIMA.
HAZARDOUS OPERATION DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT
ACTIVITIES. 091141Z TO 091231Z APR.
AREA BOUNDED BY
22-24-49N 127-15-39E
22-06-18N 128-10-24E
21-51-01N 128-04-24E
22-09-30N 127-09-44E


and corresponding NOTAM (CZ-3B 2nd stage debris)
P1198/20 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES, THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON APR 09, 2020
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON APR 09, 2020 FROM 11:41-12:31 UTC
AREA:
220618N1281024E 222449N1271539E 220930N1270944E 215101N1280424E,
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE:SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
09 APR 11:41 2020 UNTIL 09 APR 12:31 2020. CREATED: 08 APR 10:19 2020
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Alter Sachse on 04/08/2020 02:13 pm
Launch mass 5550 kg

Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 04/08/2020 06:33 pm
Will this launch use LC2?  Past performance...the use of LC2 and 3 often alternates.
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: russianhalo117 on 04/08/2020 06:39 pm
Will this launch use LC2?  Past performance...the use of LC2 and 3 often alternates.
given that a CZ-2C is scheduled in the near future from LC3 i would expect LC2.
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Alter Sachse on 04/08/2020 07:03 pm
If the image is real, it should show LC 2.
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Satori on 04/09/2020 07:41 am
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/09/2020 10:35 am
FYI:

https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1248197452559044610
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 11:12 am
Here's their Instagram page. Livestream does not look promising.

https://www.instagram.com/pasifiksatelitnusantara/?hl=en
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 11:15 am
SFF has launch at 11:46 UTC.

http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/long-march-3b-rokcet-launch-palapa-n1-communication-satellite?instance_id=3220

9ifly thread.

http://www.9ifly.cn/thread-89280-13-1.html
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Satori on 04/09/2020 11:36 am
Ten minutes for launch...
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Satori on 04/09/2020 11:40 am
Waiting launch in 5 minutes...
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 11:42 am
Video before launch.

https://www.weibo.com/2046696037/ICyjZ2b8L
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Satori on 04/09/2020 11:45 am
Its launch time at Xichang!

Waiting for news!!!
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 11:46 am
Launch should be happening about now.
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 11:50 am
9ifly is reporting it is still a few minutes before launch.

http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=89280&pid=727907

"From Weibo, a few minutes before launch"
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 11:53 am
Report of launch.

http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=89280&pid=727913

"has been launched."
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 11:54 am
Photo posted at 9ifly.

http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=89280&pid=727914
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 11:55 am
"The Indonesian star has been launched."

https://www.weibo.com/3279752321/ICyqhF7hB
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 11:58 am
Launched at 11:48 UTC.

"Just 19:48, China launched the Indonesian Parapa-N1 communications satellite with the Long March III B carrier rocket at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center 2."

http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=89280&pid=727917
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 12:01 pm
Launch video.

https://www.weibo.com/tv/v/ICyrCmDHr
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 12:02 pm
From Weibo.

http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=89280&pid=727920
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 12:05 pm
Another video.

https://www.weibo.com/5616492130/ICyu133Gq
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Chris Bergin on 04/09/2020 12:06 pm
Rui's article:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2020/04/long-march-3b-launches-indonesian-satellite/

Shame about no live webcast, but we're talking about Chinese rockets in KSP as a replacement :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYjmF0rv_0o
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 ~11:45 UTC
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 12:10 pm
And another one.

https://www.weibo.com/3279752321/ICyuwDWvi
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:48 UTC)
Post by: limen4 on 04/09/2020 12:20 pm
CZ-3B Y71
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:48 UTC)
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 12:20 pm
https://www.weibo.com/2122231561/ICywS1V0N
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:48 UTC)
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 04/09/2020 12:29 pm
Someone had a livestream! This looks like the screen at the official launch viewing site.

https://www.weibo.com/5616492130/ICyCFmv8F
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:48 UTC)
Post by: Satori on 04/09/2020 01:03 pm
Rumors of a possible launch failure...
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:48 UTC)
Post by: FutureSpaceTourist on 04/09/2020 01:21 pm
https://twitter.com/aj_fi/status/1248235236158210048

Quote
So, was this nominal? Source: https://www.weibo.com/7394096505/ICyxUaLHe
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:48 UTC)
Post by: FutureSpaceTourist on 04/09/2020 01:21 pm
https://twitter.com/aj_fi/status/1248229456029921280

Quote
Some debris already located.

ℹ: https://www.weibo.com/3279752321/ICyIF3MOq
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:48 UTC)
Post by: SmallKing on 04/09/2020 01:39 pm
Sounds like a failure during 3rd stage flight, just a rumor
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:48 UTC)
Post by: Satori on 04/09/2020 01:47 pm
Indonesian Palapa-N1 communication satellite launch failure

Xinhua News Agency, Xichang, April 9th, by wire
At 19:46 on April 9th, China launched the Indonesian PALAPA-N1 satellite with the Long March 3B carrier rocket at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center. The rockets 1 and 2 were flying normally and the third stage was abnormal. Level and satellite wreckage have fallen, and satellite launch has failed. Troubleshooting and related handling work has been fully launched. (Finish)
Title: Re: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:48 UTC)
Post by: SmallKing on 04/09/2020 01:49 pm
Sounds like a failure during 3rd stage flight, just a rumor
Confirmed

http://www.xinhuanet.com/2020-04/09/c_1125834989.htm
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:48 UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 04/09/2020 02:03 pm
Dammit. Rui's article updated.
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 04/09/2020 02:14 pm
Indonesian Palapa-N1 communication satellite launch failure

Xinhua News Agency, Xichang, April 9th, by wire
At 19:46 on April 9th, China launched the Indonesian PALAPA-N1 satellite with the Long March 3B carrier rocket at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center. The rockets 1 and 2 were flying normally and the third stage was abnormal. Level and satellite wreckage have fallen, and satellite launch has failed. Troubleshooting and related handling work has been fully launched. (Finish)
So launch time is confirmed as 11:46 UTC
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: Closer to Space on 04/09/2020 02:26 pm
It was the first flight of this third stage since the failure of the CZ-7A. Did the CZ-7A fail because of this stage or is it just a coincidence?
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/09/2020 03:16 pm
Seems like there are reports of fireballs in the sky seen around Guam and Saipan that has been linked by local media to be related to this failure. (https://twitter.com/sybil_ms/status/1248253670476546048) The flight path certainly fits in the correct region.

The National Weather Service branch at Guam was notified of this observation. (https://www.facebook.com/NWSGuam/posts/2855897117825871)
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: starbase on 04/09/2020 03:38 pm
Another view of reentry
https://twitter.com/AskTheQ_/status/1248259189631324160
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 04/09/2020 04:01 pm
The nominal flight path passed very close to Saipan
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 04/09/2020 04:25 pm
Update: Unidentified object 'likely connected' to Chinese test launch; poses no threat to Guam, Marianas (https://www.postguam.com/news/local/update-unidentified-object-likely-connected-to-chinese-test-launch-poses-no-threat-to-guam-marianas/article_b4aaef14-7a68-11ea-871d-03d0b59036ac.html)
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: Satori on 04/09/2020 06:16 pm
From Xinhua,

China's launch mission on Palapa-N1 satellite fails (http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-04/09/c_138962095.htm).
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: ZachS09 on 04/09/2020 06:31 pm
It was the first flight of this third stage since the failure of the CZ-7A. Did the CZ-7A fail because of this stage or is it just a coincidence?

I thought the Long March 7A failed because of a potential second stage issue with the YF-115 engines.
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: russianhalo117 on 04/09/2020 07:00 pm
It was the first flight of this third stage since the failure of the CZ-7A. Did the CZ-7A fail because of this stage or is it just a coincidence?

I thought the Long March 7A failed because of a potential second stage issue with the YF-115 engines.
There were three theories but we never got an official confirmation as to which stage failed.

CZ-7A
Engine failure: Plausible in conjunction with theory 2.
Stage re-contact: video showed Stage 0/1 sep from stage 2 then possible re-contact moments later.
Third stage failure in the first burn: no evidence available that I know of.
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: jcm on 04/09/2020 11:34 pm
To make it to Saipan suggests (by some rough modelling I did) a -1070 x 210 km orbit,  underburn by 420 m/s and 43s duration
short. In other words, I infer that it got most of the way through the first burn before failing, otherwise it would have
fallen nearer the stage 2 drop zone just east of Taiwan.

I am not confident of the accuracy of the calculation but I suspect the general conclusion is correct.
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: SmallKing on 04/11/2020 04:04 am
Google translate
Quote
"The third stage has two engines, one of which doesn't fire. So it doesn't get enough speed to enter the orbit," Adi Rahman Adiwoso, Director of PSN, said at the same conference. 
   "The satellite's altitude was only about 170 km, with a speed of 7,100 meters per second, and then fell into the ocean and could not be saved," he continued.
https://kumparan.com/kumparantech/satelit-nusantara-dua-gagal-mengorbit-siaran-tv-dan-radio-terancam-bermasalah-1tCCDi3iDLY
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 04/11/2020 07:21 am
Long March 3B carrying commercial Indonesian satellite fails (https://spacenews.com/long-march-3b-carrying-commercial-indonesian-satellite-fails/), dated April 9
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Though announced as a DFH-4 satellite, Nusantara-2 was built on an upgraded version of the CGWIC platform called the DFH-4E, which could accommodate a more powerful payload, PSN CEO Adi Adiwoso told SpaceNews in an interview before the launch.
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/10/2020 02:56 am
The failure reason of this launch has shown up in a tender for launch insurance services for ZY-3-03. (http://www.mof.gov.cn/xinxi/zhongyangbiaoxun/gengzhenggonggao/202006/t20200609_3529046.htm)  ;)

I expect either the Indonesian customer or their insurer will confirm this later, particularly since they are apparently going back to the Chinese for the replacement satellite.

https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1270547806046941184

https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1270574600783450112
Title: Re: Failure: Palapa-N1 (Nusantara-2) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC - April 9, 2020 (11:46 UTC)
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 07/10/2020 12:06 am
The new CZ-3B/E which just launched Apstar 6D had the dry mass of the upper stage reduced in mass by 50 kg, which increased payload to GTO by the same amount to 5,550 kg. It just so happens that Palapa N1 also has a mass of 5,550 kg, so I'm guessing this was the first flight of CZ-3B/E. The changes made to the cryogenic stage might have contributed to the failure, although that seems to contradict other reports of the cause of the failure.

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2020/04/long-march-3b-launches-indonesian-satellite/

"Weighing 5,550 kilograms, Palapa-N1 had a capacity of 20×36 MHz C-band FSS transponders and 9.5 gigabit-per-second (Gbps) HTS. The satellite can cover regions throughout the Asia Pacific and to Australia for C-band transponders and throughout Indonesia for HTS. The satellite could have also been used for VSAT, broadcast, broadband, backbone, and backhaul services."