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Title: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/05/2017 12:19 AM
I have a new project.  Horizon Models has released another Mercury era rocket, the Mercury Redstone.  The kit has the options of being built as MR-1 to MR-3, MR-BD or MR-4.  I picked MR-3, Freedom 7.  The kit is engineered so they can reuse parts for future releases.  And as I have learned, a Jupiter-C with Explorer 1 should be next since the photo-etched parts even have the antenna on it for the satellite.

The booster builds up really quick, and I compared it to the Dragon release from a few years ago.  Some scale calculations show that the Horizon kit is spot on.
Title: Re: Horizon Models 1/72 Mercury Redstone
Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/05/2017 12:24 AM
It comes with a launch table with some photo-etched details. 

I test fitted the booster to the table while I was in the middle of sanding it.
Title: Re: Horizon Models 1/72 Mercury Redstone
Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/05/2017 12:29 AM
The next day, I started painting and then the day after that, the decals.  The Freedom 7 was built from and earlier release last year, so I had a head start on that. The bottom photo compares the Horizon kit, left, to the Dragon kit on the right. At this point, I took a bit of a side trip that was inspired by Manfred and his launch pad.  I decided to scratch build umbilical arms for it. 
Title: Re: Horizon Models 1/72 Mercury Redstone
Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/05/2017 12:36 AM
So, after searching for photos (thanks Ed!) and watching launch films, I constructed a rough arm for the booster, with a few details.  I will add more detail lines after I paint it dark blue.  I have also started a base with weathered concrete and other ground equipment.  And that is where I am at this point.  I have started the capsule umbilical arm, but forgot to take a picture before I started painting.  I hope to have more tomorrow!
Title: Re: Horizon Models 1/72 Mercury Redstone
Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/06/2017 12:01 AM
I am very happy with the umbilical arms.  I need to hit the hobby store tomorrow for some tiny plastic rod for the lines.  I am not sure about the "concrete" yet, but it is getting close to what I want.  I still need to add the ground tubes around the base.
Title: Re: Horizon Models 1/72 Mercury Redstone
Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/08/2017 01:51 AM
I did a bit more work, adding 3 of the ground tubes and I started running the lines to the launch table. I have to wait until they dry and then connect them to the table.

The second photo is a closer view of the main umbilical connection.  There is a tiny false hatch on the top of the connection, it stay with the arm if I remove it but gives the illusion of the hatch cover being open.
Title: Re: Horizon Models 1/72 Mercury Redstone
Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/08/2017 11:49 PM
Finished!! I am done with my Horizon Models Mercury Redstone Freedom 7. If you have seen my build thread, you know I decided to add umbilical arms to the model on a display base. Those arms, and the cables on the launch table were scratch-built. I figure this is the only Mercury that will get a launch pad from me, no way could I build the Atlas tower in this scale!
Title: Re: Horizon Models 1/72 Mercury Redstone
Post by: mike robel on 04/09/2017 02:20 AM
Nice job Ron.
Title: Re: Horizon Models 1/72 Mercury Redstone
Post by: roma847 on 04/10/2017 06:00 AM
Hi Ron,
cool idea, that looks amazing. (http://www.raumfahrer.net/forum/yabbfiles/Attachments/up045518.gif)
How long is the rocket? (http://www.retriever-forum.net/images/smilies/denknf8.gif)

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Title: Re: Horizon Models 1/72 Mercury Redstone
Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/10/2017 01:49 PM
Hi Ron,
cool idea, that looks amazing. (http://www.raumfahrer.net/forum/yabbfiles/Attachments/up045518.gif)
How long is the rocket? (http://www.retriever-forum.net/images/smilies/denknf8.gif)

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/knirpsi13/Eagle/RolandChayerByeByeSmiley.gif)

Thanks! It stands a little over a foot tall on the launch table.
Title: Re: Horizon Models 1/72 Mercury Redstone
Post by: Oersted on 04/10/2017 09:47 PM
And ready for lift-off!

Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 12:05 AM
I decided to just use my recent Mercury Redstone thread and keep it for all of my future models.  Then I won't have to do a new thread for each.

So, the next up is another Apollo Saturn V model.  It is an Airfix 1/144 scale kit I modified with after market parts and decals.  It is for Apollo 17. 

Here is a series of rotated views of the launch vehicle.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 12:09 AM
The F-1 engines of the S-IC stage are covered in batting insulation.  I modified the kit parts with some details and plumbers tape.  I modified the thrust structure to look more like the real thing.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 12:15 AM
The thrust structure for the S-II stage was replaced with a resin part. Here we see the interstage still attached and then the S-II stage alone and LES has been jettisoned.

Last photo is the Command Module that I cast from another, more accurate model by Realspace.  The Service Module is from the kit, since I needed to cut into it for the science platform.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 12:21 AM
And now, the S-IVB would continue on into orbit.  And then fire it's single J-2 engine for the moon.  Of course, the CSM, America, would turn around and dock to the LM, Challenger and extract it.  Then, on to the moon!

The thrust structure on the S-IVB is another after market resin part.  The science platform on America is scratchbuilt as are the details on the J-class LM, Challenger. 
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 12:26 AM
And my 1/6 scale Gene Cernan action figure admires the 1/144 scale spacecraft.  That makes it 1/24 scale to him.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 12:42 AM
A few weeks ago, I had posted a photo of my Saturn models on my Facebook, and someone commented I needed to build a Project Icarus Saturn V.  I had thought of doing that years ago, so I began to research the MIT student project from 1967.  I even bought a copy of the report and read it.  I was quite amazed at the detail in it.

Basically, the students were given a task to save the world from an asteroid, named Icarus.  Icarus was due to fly close to Earth in June 1968 but the project assumed it was going to hit Earth.  The students came up with a plan to use NASA's Apollo program to launch interceptors with nuclear warheads to divert or destroy the asteroid. 

I found one diagram of the Saturn V online and used the drawings in the book as a guide to build the model.  I used old, half built parts of a Monogram Saturn V as a base, and the incorrect decals that came in the kit.  Here it is next to Apollo 17.

Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 12:49 AM
I did a few drawings of my own to help me figure out how to build the Interceptor, which was a modified Apollo CSM.  The warhead was a 100 Megaton bomb.  Something that did not exist.  Apparently, the Soviets had a large bomb, and it was hoped they could enlarge it, making this an international effort to save the world.

There would be 9 launches of the Saturn V, 3 test and 6 intercepts.  Also, they would need Pad C built in less than a year.  Of course, money would be no object, and 24/7 shifts for construction would be authorized. 

Five Atlas-Agenas would launch modified Ranger spacecraft to monitor the detonations at Icarus.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 12:55 AM
My model is of the final Interceptor launch.  Before Project Icarus postponed the NASA moon landings, it would have launched Apollo 14.  Note the red quadrant markings, they are from the Monogram kit.  I used the USA decals on the S-IVB stage, because, well, why not?
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 01:02 AM
I modified a couple service modules and a LES cover to build the Apollo Interceptor.  The CM cover removes to reveal the 100 Megaton warhead.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 01:06 AM
I did a couple of photoshops to give me an idea of what Icarus would have looked like if it had been needed.  Note which mobile launcher is seen here!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 01:07 AM
The interceptor closes on its target.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: mike robel on 05/01/2017 08:07 AM
Nice work Ron!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 10:28 AM
Thanks Mike!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Archibald on 05/01/2017 11:19 AM
Pretty cool !
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Bob Shaw on 05/01/2017 11:39 AM
As a joint US/USSR mission, your spacecraft and launcher should also have a nod to the USSR. Perhaps also a United Nations logo?
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 01:54 PM
As a joint US/USSR mission, your spacecraft and launcher should also have a nod to the USSR. Perhaps also a United Nations logo?

I was going to print out a a "CCCP" and add it to the CSM Interceptor.  But I was out of decal film. 
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: roma847 on 05/01/2017 02:17 PM
Hey Ron,
cool job that you have done so far, very interesting and impressive.(http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/goodjob.gif)
I think it's not so easy to photograph these long slender models, right? (http://www.retriever-forum.net/images/smilies/denknf8.gif)

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/knirpsi13/Eagle/RolandChayerByeByeSmiley.gif)
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 03:23 PM
Hey Ron,
cool job that you have done so far, very interesting and impressive.(http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/goodjob.gif)
I think it's not so easy to photograph these long slender models, right? (http://www.retriever-forum.net/images/smilies/denknf8.gif)

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/knirpsi13/Eagle/RolandChayerByeByeSmiley.gif)

LOL, nope.  I am glad I can crop the photos!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/02/2017 12:23 AM
A few more models finished up on my day off. Posing with my new Saturn V, and my older Falcon 9 and Gemini Titan is the new USAF MOL Titan III. It is a resin kit from Realspace Models. And also the Atlas V that I built long ago with the Starliner was updated with parts that Glenn sent me. The newest version of the rocket has two SRBs and a "mini-skirt" under the capsule. Next up is a Gemini and Agena in 1/48 scale.

Left to right: Falcon 9, Atlas V with Starliner, Titan III MOL and Gemini Titan with the big Saturn V in the rear. All are the same scale at 1/144.

A tale of two Geminis: The test launch of the USAF Gemini-B and Manned Orbital Laboratory next to NASA's Gemini-Titan.

The updated Atlas V-Starliner.


Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: roma847 on 05/03/2017 05:44 AM
Great collection, Ron!!! (http://bastelstars.de/images/smilies/i5665_applaus.gif)

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/knirpsi13/Eagle/RolandChayerByeByeSmiley.gif)
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/06/2017 01:30 AM
Thanks.  One of these days I will photograph all of the rockets in my "Rocket Garden"
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Davp99 on 05/06/2017 04:53 PM
Now these Models take me back in Time.  I think I had 2 Mercury Rockets, Red Stone & Atlas...At Least 4 Gemini had to Replicate Vl & Vll Flights....and 1 Huge Saturn Stack that I Never got around to finish...Donated these Models & Kits to a Younger Cousin.. Maybe I'll Look around and see what's Available at the Model Toy Store ...Lots of Time on my hands lately..

Great Models Ronpur
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/11/2017 03:59 AM
I am working on a new model project. A 1/48 scale model of Gemini 12 docked to an Agena with an astronaut doing an EVA. The astronaut in this case, is of course, Buzz Aldrin. I am using Realspace Model's update kit for the old Revell Gemini model and his Agena. The spacewalking astronaut is a 3D printed figure.

Photo 1: Agena is mostly assembled, and I have begun to accurize the Gemini.

Photo 2:Adapter has corrected parts attached and I detailed the inside of the capsule on the pilots side since the hatch will be open.

Photo 3:The interior of the hatch is detailed too, and Buzz is being painted. You can't see Jim Lovell, because he is in his seat already!

Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: roma847 on 05/11/2017 11:45 AM
Hello Ron,
(http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/wow.gif) hat awesome Detail kits. (http://www.raumfahrer.net/forum/yabbfiles/Attachments/up040577.gif)

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/knirpsi13/Eagle/RolandChayerByeByeSmiley.gif)
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Archibald on 05/11/2017 05:47 PM
Hey Rompur, your little rocket museum never cease to amaze me. You must have one hell of a big house to shelter all those rockets (albeit a case could be made that rockets are essentially vertical, hence taking much less surface area than aircrafts :p  )

Do you have a complete list of all your rocket models ?
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Dalhousie on 05/11/2017 11:43 PM
Always wanted the Airfix kit!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/12/2017 04:20 AM
Hey Rompur, your little rocket museum never cease to amaze me. You must have one hell of a big house to shelter all those rockets (albeit a case could be made that rockets are essentially vertical, hence taking much less surface area than aircrafts :p  )

Do you have a complete list of all your rocket models ?

No, but I plan to get them all photographed in the near future and post them here.  And my house isn't big, but it is my only hobby these days.  And yes, they do fit on the tops of things like the dvd shelves very nicely.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/12/2017 04:21 AM
Always wanted the Airfix kit!

Get the newer Skylab version.  It has the Apollo upper stage as well as Skylab.  And it is usually cheaper!!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/13/2017 12:30 AM
Still working on the Gemini 12/Agena model. 

1: Base coats are on the Gemini spacecraft. The capsule is painted dark blue, with black window tint to make it even darker. Mercury and Gemini spacecraft were never black, but finding the real color has been tough. I usually make them very dark gray.

2:Buzz Aldrin's empty seat with some of the detail I added, seat belts and the ejection handle.

3:Jim Lovell in his seat. Some over spray leaked into the hatch when the tape blew off while spraying. I will have to fix that.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: mike robel on 05/13/2017 12:35 AM
I asked my friend Guenter Wendt what color they were and he said "FLAT BLACK".  On the other hand, I find Gun Metal to be a pleasing shade.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/13/2017 12:37 AM
After today's work on the project, this is where I am at.

1: I cleaned up the interior of the Gemini and added antennas to the adapter. I also started painting the Agena and details on the Gemini. Buzz has his umbilical now.

2:Side view.

3:Buzz and the interior of the hatch.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/13/2017 12:41 AM
I asked my friend Guenter Wendt what color they were and he said "FLAT BLACK".  On the other hand, I find Gun Metal to be a pleasing shade.

Yes, but flat black never translates well to scale.  That is why I have been going with the ultra dark grey.  The ultra dark blue is to try make it a bit different.  I like gun metal too.

And it photographs better.  Black washes out when I take pictures of it for photo shop.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/15/2017 12:47 PM
I have progressed a bit more on Gemini XII.

1:Added gold foil to the rear of the Gemini. I also painted and added foil to the Agena.

2:Side views.

3:I started applying decals. The ones on the Agena are from my spares pile.  My Gemini VII model is seen on the left.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Davp99 on 05/15/2017 01:39 PM
Hi Ron, your Gemini kit, it is the Model that can untwist to remove the different Stages ?
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/15/2017 09:03 PM
Hi Ron, your Gemini kit, it is the Model that can untwist to remove the different Stages ?

That is the 1/24 scale version.  This one comes in all of those sections, put it won't come apart. So, I just end up gluing them, except for one that has magnets I put in.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/16/2017 04:08 PM
Gemini 12 is getting closer to being finished.  I have to work on the things like EVA rods and hand holds.  And a then connect the two spacecraft together.  They are just taped and laying next to each other in these photos.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/18/2017 02:05 AM
Gemini 12 launched on November 11, 1966. It was the final mission of the Gemini program. Astronauts Jim Lovell and Buzz Aldrin spent 3 days, 22 hours and 34 minutes in space. Buzz conducted the most successful spacewalk to date, paving the way for his next walk, on the moon on Apollo 11. Here is my finished model of that space walk, in 1/48 scale. Using an old Revell Gemini kit, a kit I first had as a 5 year old, with update parts and an Agena Target Vehicle by Realspace models. This is the last kit in 1/48 scale I have, so it is fitting it becomes the last Gemini mission.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/18/2017 02:14 AM
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/18/2017 02:19 AM
My 1/48 scale Gemini spacecraft. Clockwise from the top right: Gemini 9 with ADTA, Gemini 12/Agena, Gemini 7 and the first one, Gemini 3.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/18/2017 02:21 AM
My 1/48 scale Gemini spacecraft. Clockwise from the top right: Gemini 9 with ADTA, Gemini 12/Agena, Gemini 7 and the first one, Gemini 3.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/18/2017 02:26 AM
Gemini 12 with my MOL and the Rogallo wing Gemini.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Davp99 on 05/18/2017 08:18 PM
Thanks for Sharing these Models Ron, The Whole Gemini Time Frame was like my First Love..I couldn't Read or Watch Anything Enough About NASA in those Short Years ...Mercury was a Flash <Sigh> Apollo & The Space Shuttle ..Both Ended with Too Soon ..... IMO   Dave
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Dalhousie on 05/18/2017 11:53 PM
Always wanted the Airfix kit!

Get the newer Skylab version.  It has the Apollo upper stage as well as Skylab.  And it is usually cheaper!!

Does it come with the CSM and LM as well?
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/19/2017 01:14 AM
Always wanted the Airfix kit!

Get the newer Skylab version.  It has the Apollo upper stage as well as Skylab.  And it is usually cheaper!!

Does it come with the CSM and LM as well?

Yes.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: jgoldader on 05/19/2017 07:46 PM
You're not using an airbrush, are you?  If not, it would be a very good next step to advance your skills.  Not cheap, but you can accumulate the pieces over time.  I built a spraybooth for about $100, a good airbrush is maybe $150-200, plus another $100-$150 for a compressor and fittings.  There are probably deals on eBay if you look around.  At some point, your building skills get hidden under thick paint from brushes or rattlecans, no matter how careful you are.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/20/2017 01:52 AM
I have always dreamed of having a good airbrush and compressor, but never been able to get there financially. And building resin kits or old kits with update parts and aftermarket decals, it gets expensive.   

But, heck, even rattle can model paint is $5 to $10 for those tiny cans, so it may save me in the long run.  I need to revisit that, especially with weird colors on some items.....like the LM!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Archibald on 05/20/2017 09:23 AM
What an impressive Gemini space fleet. You even modelled the "angry alligator".  :)
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/20/2017 12:47 PM
What an impressive Gemini space fleet. You even modelled the "angry alligator".  :)

That is another Realspace kit.  That is a very important piece to me.  Seeing that on TV during the mission coverage is one of, if not the first memory I have as a child.  I think I may have been 3 at the time.  I made my first model of it using two triangle blocks from my wood block set at the time!  I never stopped watching missions after that.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 07/06/2017 02:26 AM
I decided to give a refurbishment to my Saturn V 500F model.  The model was one I built back in 1999 or so and used home made decals that had faded.  The clear coat had also yellowed.  So, I decided to repaint, redecal with modern decals and detail a few things.  I detailed the single F-1 engine and build the engine weight simulators using stacked washers.  I replaced the under sized CSM with a Block I from Realspace Models' Saturn 1B kit.  Very happy with my 500F!!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: roma847 on 07/06/2017 01:31 PM
Hi Ron,

the refurbishment was a good idea, now your Saturn V 500F looks like a new model. (http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/speak_cool.gif)

But what's going on with your Launch tower, which is standing there so lonely and abandoned, that one would have to have compassion with him?  (http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/hmmm.gif)

This also looks like a long-term project ... (http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/analintruder.gif)

(http://www.dasquadforum.de/wcf/images/smilies/flatto-bye.gif)
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 07/06/2017 01:37 PM
I am saving that tower for a future SpaceX project, once we see what they do at 39A.  I have two kits with tower parts that someday will be an Apollo LUT. 
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: roma847 on 07/07/2017 05:47 AM
The wise man makes provision for the future! (http://www.mind-craft.de/Sml/top2.gif)

Yep, it is better to have it than one would have ... (http://www.raumfahrer.net/forum/yabbfiles/Attachments/up040577.gif)

(http://www.dasquadforum.de/wcf/images/smilies/flatto-bye.gif)
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 07/18/2017 01:35 AM
A new space project from the early days of space flight. This will be a model of the Atlas launched for Project SCORE (Signal Communications by Orbiting Relay Equipment). It was launched on December 18, 1958 and surprised the world by broadcasting the voice of President Eisenhower to the world. At the time, it was the largest object ever orbited and was considered to be the first communications satellite. I started with the Horizon Models Atlas kit.  I found some photos and a few line drawings showing the sustainer stage I needed to build.  I also needed to make the pointed "hot rod" nosecone and modified the side pod on one side so they were of equal length.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 07/18/2017 01:39 AM
I had to build up the sustainer engine and modify the booster so I could remove it.  Then I detailed the engine with wires and pipes.   The model has been primed and I will start painting it soon.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: roma847 on 07/18/2017 06:19 AM
Very interisting to see the rockets from the early days ... (http://www.raumfahrer.net/forum/yabbfiles/Attachments/up040577.gif)

(http://www.dasquadforum.de/wcf/images/smilies/flatto-bye.gif)
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 07/26/2017 12:50 AM
I finished up the Atlas SCORE.  I finished it with bare metal foil.  The 10B decals were made from kit decals, combining a "D" and an "8". 
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Rocket Science on 07/26/2017 01:18 AM
Amazing work Ron, you are a "master builder"! :)
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 07/26/2017 01:34 AM
Well thanks!  That is awesome of you to say.  I am glad I have L2 here to help with the research.  It was the best place to find photos of the actual 10B Atlas.
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Post by: mike robel on 07/26/2017 06:38 AM
Nice work Ron.  My production has fallen way off.  Not enough time...
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Post by: Rocket Science on 07/26/2017 06:00 PM
You have nothing to apologize for Mike, you've created enough masterpieces of your own! Rest on you laurels for a bit... :)
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: IanThePineapple on 07/26/2017 06:03 PM
These models put my paper ones to shame...
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 07/26/2017 09:51 PM
Nice work Ron.  My production has fallen way off.  Not enough time...

Well, looking at what you have built, I would need 20 more years to catch up!!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 07/26/2017 09:52 PM
These models put my paper ones to shame...

You can't even compare them.  Paper is so different, and I can not even come close to the awesome models you have made when I tried paper!! 

And you don't have to worry about paint fumes making you ill!!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: mike robel on 07/27/2017 11:09 AM
Nice work Ron.  My production has fallen way off.  Not enough time...

Well, looking at what you have built, I would need 20 more years to catch up!!

Thanks Ron.  Your's have a certain quality, especially when you make them look so good, but can disassemble them to represent different flight stages.  And your photography is great.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 08/04/2017 04:24 PM
I photographed some recent models as well as some old ones.

1. 1/72 scale Mercury Redstone, Mercury Atlas and Gemini Titan II.

2. Three Atlas models, all 1/72 scale.

3. Re-issues of vintage models of Thor and Vangaurd.

4-5-6. Re-issues of vintage models of Snark and Bomarc.

7. 1/48 scale Mercury Spacecraft

8. 1/72 scale Apollo, Gemini and Mercury
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 08/10/2017 10:01 PM
I built a second Hasegawa Voyager spacecraft model.  This time I used the LVM brass booms for it.  It is an amazing improvement!!

My first kit has been broken up into dish and bus to make a Magellan model.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 09/17/2017 08:46 PM
To follow up my Voyager model, I built the Realspace kit of the Titan IIIE. I hope to build the Cassini Titan IV soon.  It is next to the earlier Titan IIIC MOL kit.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 10/25/2017 09:35 PM
I am finished with my Pioneer 10 model. A 1/24 scale resin kit by Realspace Models. I remember the excitement I felt as a kid when Pioneer 10 and 11 were launched. It boggled my young mind when I tried to visualize their journey to the planets. And beyond.

The kit has a lot of brass rod and tube to contend with.  It was a challenge but fun!  Orange and silver foil cover the bus and I added cables to the big boom. 

It will look good next to my plaque replica.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 11/09/2017 11:31 AM
Every year, Horizon Models has a contest for their customers.  The Horizon Models Space Pioneers contest.  This year, I entered my Project SCORE Atlas and Mercury Redstone with umbilicals.  And I was one of the three winners.  I will receive each of their current kits and one of their new releases this year.  I know they are release a Jupiter-C with Explorer 1 soon.  So, more models to build.

http://www.horizon-models.com/2017-winners
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Post by: roma847 on 11/09/2017 01:15 PM
Congrats Ron, (http://www.smiliemania.de/smilie132/00003423.gif)

that is the deserved reward for your amazing models. (http://www.raumfahrer.net/forum/yabbfiles/Attachments/up040577.gif)

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Post by: mike robel on 11/09/2017 02:13 PM
Well Done Ron.
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Post by: Ronpur50 on 12/06/2017 02:55 AM
Finished my 1/72 scale model of Mercury-Redstone 1. The "Four Inch Flight" or "Tower Flight" November 21,1960. After the tower shot off, the Mercury Capsule popped its top, deploying the parachutes, that then hung down the side of the rocket, making a dangerous situation even worse. Of course, being me, I built two capsule to swap out. One has the escape tower pre-launch and the other has the antenna fairing flying up, and parachute starting to deploy. I also like the short checker board and higher location of the "United States". It would make it visible with frost on the lower tank, unlike the later Redstones.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 12/11/2017 10:20 PM
Finally getting around to building a dance partner for Gemini VII!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 12/13/2017 12:16 AM
Rendezvous in Space. On December 15, 1965, Gemini 6 met up with its sister ship, Gemini 7, that had been in space since December 4. I finished my model of Gemini 6 today, and re mounted my Gemini 7 model on a new base to depict this historic flight. Gemini 6 has a "Beat Army" sign in the window. An inflight joke, most likely instigated by astronaut Wally Schirra, who was a Navy man! Both kits are vintage Revell 1/48 scale, modified by Realspace Models parts. And a few scratch-built bits. Decals by Rick Sternbach's Space Model Systems.

Gemini 7 to the left, Gemini 6 to the right.
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Post by: Ronpur50 on 12/13/2017 12:17 AM
Gemini 6 in foreground, 7 to the rear.
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Post by: Ronpur50 on 12/13/2017 12:18 AM
6 on left, 7 on right.
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Post by: Ronpur50 on 12/13/2017 12:21 AM
1:Looking over the top of Gemini 7 at Gemini 6

2:"Beat Army" Strangely enough, the decals also came with a "Beat Navy" sign. (You can barely see Tom Stafford behind the sign! LOL)

3:Both spacecraft, face on. If you look real carefully in the right window of the right spacecraft, Gemini 6, you can see Wally peeking out!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 12/13/2017 12:24 AM
All the actual flown Gemini spacecraft I have built in 1/48 scale. Clockwise from upper right, Gemini 3, Gemini 12, Gemini 6&7 and Gemini 9.

Gemini is a very special program to me.  The first memories I have of spaceflight are those of seeing images of the "Angry Alligator" of Gemini 9 on TV.

I still hope to build a couple more, Gemini 4 and Gemini 5. 
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: roma847 on 12/13/2017 06:39 AM
This is a nice collection, Ron, let it grow. (http://www.raumfahrer.net/forum/yabbfiles/Attachments/up040577.gif)

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Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: mike robel on 12/13/2017 12:30 PM
I'm pretty sure Borman put up a Beat Navy sign, since he was a West Pointer, even though he went into the USAF.

BTW, last weekend ARMY BEAT navy!  Two in a row after a 14 year draught!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 12/14/2017 02:20 AM
I received my trophy from Horizon Models for the 2017 Space Pioneers model contest!  It is picture with the models I won with and the first three kits I got as a prize.  I will also receive any new releases they make this year.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 01/12/2018 02:09 AM
In honor of the upcoming 50th Anniversary of Apollo 5, I built a model of LM-1 in 1/72 scale.  It uses a heavily modified Airfix kit.  I have been wanting to do this for a long time, but then I had a friend do a similar build, so I got motivated!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 01/27/2018 10:53 PM
Back in June of 2014, I showed a model of the Falcon Heavy I was building in an old thread here.  Obviously, it was way before we saw the real thing.  Back then, threads here described the boosters as being longer than the core, which obviously we know now is not true either.  So, I have decided to dig it up, not that it was hard to find, and "fix" it now that we have the real thing here.  I have always intended to do that, I just never thought it would be so long!

Here is the original build.  It was built using 3D printed parts from Shapeways, and plastic tubes and rods.  It is done the old fashion way! 
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 01/27/2018 10:55 PM
So, I had to cut the boosters down and shorten them to the same height.  I then added the 3D printed legs and fin grids.  The I had to add the cross beam supports and other details.  It is about ready for the first coat of paint. 
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 01/27/2018 11:02 PM
Here are my other Falcon models.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: deruch on 01/29/2018 02:25 AM
Here are my other Falcon models.

Ron, I can't tell from the picture you posted.  But, wanted to be sure you had noticed the difference between the grid fins on the side boosters and the main core booster.  The side cores will use the new titanium grid fin design which is both a bit larger and has the scalloped edge on its leading face when deployed. 
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 01/29/2018 12:45 PM
Here are my other Falcon models.

Ron, I can't tell from the picture you posted.  But, wanted to be sure you had noticed the difference between the grid fins on the side boosters and the main core booster.  The side cores will use the new titanium grid fin design which is both a bit larger and has the scalloped edge on its leading face when deployed.

I know, but unfortunately, the 3D parts on Shapeways only has one size available at this time.  If i ever get own printer, I can make my own!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Hobbes-22 on 01/29/2018 12:57 PM
I've made the Block 4 grid fins (https://www.shapeways.com/product/8TZB89U2P/grid-fins-and-landing-legs-falcon-9-v1-2-block-4?optionId=64498974) available, although only in one part that also contains the legs at the moment. If you want a set of just the grid fins, let me know.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 01/29/2018 01:18 PM
Oh, yes, please!  I haven't checked in a while, I have had these parts for a while, waiting on photos.
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Post by: Ronpur50 on 01/30/2018 01:15 AM
Painted white.  Hard to photograph, so I will try it during the day again, tomorrow.  I am going with the grid fins I have for the moment.  When Hobbes gets the other available, I will switch them out.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Hobbes-22 on 01/30/2018 12:57 PM
Hot off the press:

https://www.shapeways.com/product/B6C35QJSD/grid-fins-for-falcon-9-v1-2-block-4?optionId=64679864 (https://www.shapeways.com/product/B6C35QJSD/grid-fins-for-falcon-9-v1-2-block-4?optionId=64679864)
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 01/30/2018 01:40 PM
Ordered!  Thank you!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 02/01/2018 12:05 AM
I have done a bit more work.  Applied some decals.  I am going to have to print some wider ones for the core, since they have to go over the conduit.  And a big FH for the fairing.  I will replace the grid fins on the booster when the parts arrive.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 02/01/2018 12:07 AM
While I have been building all of my 1/48 scale Revell Gemini models, I have also been collecting several Mercury spacecraft in the same scale. Now, I have a complete set of 6 flown Mercury spacecraft. in addition to my Gemini fleet!

Clockwise from bottom left: Freedom 7, Liberty Bell 7, Friendship 7, Aurora 7, Sigma 7 and Faith 7.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 02/06/2018 11:03 PM
My Heavy was almost finished today. (I was kind of inspired to work on it) The new grid fins will arrive Thursday. And I made new decals, which gave me all types of problems.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: jgoldader on 02/07/2018 12:33 AM
Now all you need is a 1/144 Roadster and Starman...  nice job!

FWIW, I print out decals on my color laser, and I've found using anything other than the Testors spray, which you're also using, results in decals that curl up to die when wet.  So the Testors bonder isn't cheap, but it's the best to use, as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 02/07/2018 01:16 AM
I think I put too much on this time.  Made them too thick.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: jgoldader on 02/07/2018 01:48 AM
It's a fine line between too much and too little.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: roma847 on 02/07/2018 03:23 PM
Hi Ron,

here you can see two videos of an interesting young German team BUZZ Space Models (https://www.buzzspacemodels.com/) about 3D printing and building of Falcon 9 Rockets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tEkrMxLfFk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT9D86lKl_s

Maybe it's interesting for you. (http://www.raumfahrer.net/forum/yabbfiles/Attachments/up040577.gif)

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Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 02/07/2018 04:06 PM
I've seen there models, and they are nicely detailed.  But I like to do the building myself.  Even his kits are to "finished" for me to have fun with!  LOL.  But, I may get is the launch pad erector!

Edit: I see the bigger kits are built up from parts on plastic tube, the way I build mine!  I wish they would sell those parts for a 1/72 scale kit!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 02/19/2018 03:16 PM
I received my new grid fins and finally installed them.  I may redo the decals when I get some clear paper.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 02/22/2018 03:04 PM
Finished model of my space shuttle Challenger from the STS-61A Spacelab D-1 mission.  The last successful of the orbiter.  Many extra parts added, cameras, modified the Spacelab, the truss for the GAS canisters, tile decals, surgical tape for thermal blankets on Spacelab, payload bay and OMS Pods.
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Post by: Hobbes-22 on 02/22/2018 04:06 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: jgoldader on 02/22/2018 06:53 PM
I'm really hopeful that we can get, one day, a nice accurate-out-of-the-box orbiter when NASM finishes scanning in Discovery.  It takes a lot of work, as was done here (and nicely so!) to get a good result from the very old 1/144 Revell and 1/72 Revell and Monogram kits.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: mike robel on 02/22/2018 07:17 PM
Nice job, Ron
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Post by: roma847 on 02/23/2018 10:39 PM
Hi Ron,

congratulations, (http://www.die-kartonmodellbauer.de/wcf/images/smilies/smiley250.gif)

since I can only pull off my hat. (http://www.mind-craft.de/sml/hi.gif)

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Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 02/25/2018 06:24 PM
I'm really hopeful that we can get, one day, a nice accurate-out-of-the-box orbiter when NASM finishes scanning in Discovery.  It takes a lot of work, as was done here (and nicely so!) to get a good result from the very old 1/144 Revell and 1/72 Revell and Monogram kits.

This is the Tamiya 1/100 scale kit.  I think it is the best shuttle kit there is.  You will of course, need to make modifications to it for whatever orbiter you want to build.  I like the Airfix kit as well, if I am building a launch version in 1/144.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 03/12/2018 03:57 PM
"8 Days or Bust" Gemini 5 is done. Launched Aug 21,1965 with Gordo Cooper and Pete Conrad, it was, at the time, the longest space flight. 120 orbits! A 1/48 scale vintage Revell kit, with Realspace Models update kit. I had to make a radar pod for the back. I will do an updated group shot of my Gemini fleet a soon. I now have, in 1/48 scale G-3, G-5, G-6, G-7, G-9 and G-12. Also, MOL, Big Gemini, and Blue Gemini and Rogallo wing. In 1/72 scale, I have G-8, Gemini Titan II and a generic Gemini in 1/24 scale. Next up will be Gemini 3 spacewalk.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 03/12/2018 04:14 PM
I read some of these books as a little kid. So, when I have an extra Mercury Redstone, and some spare time. I rebuilt it as the rocket from the book.  Project Quicksilver Mercury Redstone. When Horizon Models came out with their very nice Mercury Redstone, I still had my old Dragon Models Mercury Redstone. I decided to convert it to rocket Mike Mars flew in the old book series I read as a child. I just repainted it and used extra decals from my Horizon kits. I used one of the Horizon spacecraft and painted it orange as they were described in the book. It was a fun and quick project.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: DaveJ576 on 03/13/2018 11:52 AM
I read some of these books as a little kid. So, when I have an extra Mercury Redstone, and some spare time. I rebuilt it as the rocket from the book.  Project Quicksilver Mercury Redstone. When Horizon Models came out with their very nice Mercury Redstone, I still had my old Dragon Models Mercury Redstone. I decided to convert it to rocket Mike Mars flew in the old book series I read as a child. I just repainted it and used extra decals from my Horizon kits. I used one of the Horizon spacecraft and painted it orange as they were described in the book. It was a fun and quick project.

I have the entire series. I read them as a kid, then found all the books together in a set in an antique store. They are a bit silly when looked at from an adult perspective, but I had fun reading them again.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 03/13/2018 11:39 PM
They sure felt more exciting when I read them as a child.
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Post by: mike robel on 03/14/2018 02:20 AM
I'm a little embarrassed to say I don't remember those books at all.  Although I was really hooked on Tom Corbett Space Cadet and Tom Swift Junior.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/26/2018 06:00 PM
I have been building some models for 2001 A Space Odyssey lately.  Moebius Models has released a kit of the USS Discovery.  I added lights and have a pod that can be removed from the pod bay doors.  I also have built a couple of Orion spacecraft.  A booster and cargo version. And then made some pictures of them in space!
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Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/26/2018 06:02 PM
The Orions with some construction photos.  One of the Orions is from United Air Lines
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Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/26/2018 06:04 PM
Orion Launch and photos in orbit
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Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/26/2018 06:07 PM
From the Discovery mission, leaving Earth, in deep space and arriving at Jupiter
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Dalhousie on 04/27/2018 03:00 AM
The orion flyback booster is mentioned in the book but not the movie. The the model makers come up with the idea themselves or was there one made for the movie that did not make it into the final cut?
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Post by: JAFO on 04/27/2018 04:08 AM
Ron have you seen this website? https://www.scifiairshow.com/
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/27/2018 11:59 AM
The orion flyback booster is mentioned in the book but not the movie. The the model makers come up with the idea themselves or was there one made for the movie that did not make it into the final cut?

There was this sketch made for an ad.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/27/2018 12:04 PM
Ron have you seen this website? https://www.scifiairshow.com/

Yes, I love it!
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Post by: webdan on 04/27/2018 12:39 PM
Oh I like this too, thanks JAFO!
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: RanulfC on 04/28/2018 09:03 PM
Ronpur50 wrote:
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I read some of these books as a little kid. So, when I have an extra Mercury Redstone, and some spare time. I rebuilt it as the rocket from the book. Project Quicksilver Mercury Redstone. When Horizon Models came out with their very nice Mercury Redstone, I still had my old Dragon Models Mercury Redstone. I decided to convert it to rocket Mike Mars flew in the old book series I read as a child. I just repainted it and used extra decals from my Horizon kits. I used one of the Horizon spacecraft and painted it orange as they were described in the book. It was a fun and quick project.

"...And Mars My Destination!" Yep, spent many a childhood day reading the couple of books our local library had (first three I think) and trying to figure out how emulate "Mike's" use of acronyms :) (his actual name for those not in the 'know' was Michael Alfred Robert Sampson hence "Mike MARS") but no matter how hard I tried "wreck" was the phonetic which was not conducive to a career as a pilot, astronaut or frankly even driving a car but... :)

Oddly enough I've AH notes for an idea where the "Mercury Mk-II" program is called "Quicksilver"... Wonder where I got that idea from :)

Dalhousie wrote:
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The orion flyback booster is mentioned in the book but not the movie. The model makers come up with the idea themselves or was there one made for the movie that did not make it into the final cut?

There is a model of another spaceplane seen briefly in the film and generally accepted as the "Titov-V" but there were suggestions it might have been a model of the Orion booster. I suspect not due to the size, (it's the same size as the Orion-III)
(Sorry for the link-length but I can't reach the actual site atm)
https://www.google.com/search?q=Titov-V+Spaceplane&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinm7Tl69raAhVSVd8KHX_nB-wQsAQILQ&biw=1280&bih=904

Whereas the Orion was two stage system with catapult launch assist the Titov was supposed to be a 'trimese' system of three similar spaceplanes all launched together.

This article from 2016 showed both the ad and a pre-production art picture of the booster:
https://www.space.com/32258-orion-space-plane-2001-space-odyssey-photo-essay.html

The fan-cannon for the Orion nomenclature is that the Booster is the Orion-1, the 'cargo' version is the Orion-II and the passenger version the Orion-III.

The booster I've seen most often, (since initially the ad and pre-production art were not well known) was basically a 'super-size' but 'inverted' (wing on top to mate with wing on Oribiter) Orion you can see in cardboard here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Orion+III+Booster+Model&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwia9ZKf69raAhVFneAKHWzMBdgQsAQIJg&biw=1280&bih=904#imgrc=_

It was also modeled in Orbiter though it runway launches not a catapult per the book.
Speaking of, I have no idea what Kubrick and the model designer had against "tails" but both models in the movie lack them and apparently so did all the concepts.

An interesting 'take' on how you launch an Orion-III using an Ariane-V as a booster:
http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=42468

It actually helps 'answer' the annoying question of where the propellant to get into orbit is on that thing. (In this case we 'assume' the upper-stage is actually an expendable external tank that feeds the Orion-III and we'll just ignore the obvious C/G issues :) ) Other suggestions were ETs mounted between the booster and orbiter, and under or over the wings.

Another interesting one I found, (but while I can see the pics in a general search the site doesn't' have them) is the concept the Orion is an evolution of the STS starting with this "Orion-1" Orbiter:
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/99-science-fiction-modeling/222210-pan-am-space-clipper-orion-thread-9.html

Should see some pics in the search. It is basically an Orion spaceplane with the aft end replaced by a similar scale shuttle engine and tail assembly:
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1280&bih=904&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=NE7jWoWGBsO7gge6_ZrIBg&q=STS+Based+Orion+Spaceplane+Clipper&oq=STS+Based+Orion+Spaceplane+Clipper&gs_l=psy-ab.3...605667.617969.0.618318.34.33.0.0.0.0.255.4229.0j21j6.27.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..7.7.1039...0j0i67k1j0i13k1j0i24k1.0.AMzFhnb66i8


And interesting point is that the engine nozzles are 'scarfed' which was an actual feature for 'streamlining' and minimizing high expansion nozzles. Those big bells cause a huge amount of drag as NASA discovered when they removed the fairing from Enterprise during the A&L tests.

I'll end with my favorite "alt-history" test program picture showing the Orion A&L tests:
https://robcaswell.deviantart.com/art/Separation-Anxiety-205050780

Randy
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/28/2018 10:34 PM
I think most have assumed the model of the Titov that was seen at the space station desk is the Soviet shuttle.  There was a kit made not to long ago, in Aeroflot markings.  Remember the Soviets that Floyd encounters on the space station had Aeroflot bags.

I have seen the idea for the larger booster with inverted wings, and would like to do that some day.

The ALT version is a new one for me...and it gives me some ideas!!

I almost have my cargo Orion II built.  Just working on a payload now.

The plane with the shuttle rear is based on the Airfix kit, which a little bulkier than the Moebius kit.  And I have two of those, and old shuttles, so it is on my huge to do list as well!!  LOL

I found out that the pre-production art is actually modern, but based on the ad mock up by Karl Tate who wrote the article you linked.  It looks like the ad was never used, since it is a mock up, the printing is reversed and repeated. 

The Ariane launcher could have been used for early testing in my mind.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 04/28/2018 10:38 PM
This site talks a lot about the Titov...and all the spacecraft in 2001.  I use it a lot.

https://www.planet3earth.co.uk/ilyushin%20titov.htm
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/09/2018 12:04 AM
Back to "real space" now.  Apollo 8: First to the Moon. Basically finish with my newest spacecraft model, 1/48 from Dragon Models. Moving on from Gemini, I have now built Apollo 8 Command and Service Module (CSM). It is slightly different from the other CSMs in that it had no docking probe or ring because there was no Lunar Module. I tried to do some weathering to show the harsh conditions of space by showing bubbling of the paint from the thrusters and intense sunlight. I based this off of photos of later flight that had close up photos of the spacecraft during EVA.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: roma847 on 05/09/2018 08:53 PM
Hi Ron,
your weathering effect looks absolutely realistic. (http://www.raumfahrer.net/forum/yabbfiles/Attachments/up040577.gif)

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Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/09/2018 09:52 PM
Thanks!  Making paint peel goes against everything I ever learned about building models!  LOL
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: Ronpur50 on 07/13/2018 10:14 PM
Did some rework on my Saturn V models.  I added some details and fixed the S-II stages on them.  There was a strip across the upper stringers that needed added.  I also added the insulation seams to the S-II for Apollo 8.
I have updated 500F, Apollo 8, Apollo 17 and Skylab.
Title: Re: Ronpur's Space Models
Post by: roma847 on 07/13/2018 11:09 PM
Hi Ron,
a really awesome collection. (http://www.raumfahrer.net/forum/yabbfiles/Attachments/up040577.gif)

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