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Title: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/23/2017 02:09 AM
A new party thread to act as a relief valve from the far more serious threads (serious face - ON) such as updates and discussion.

Previous party thread:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=40089.0

And this starts for SES-10, which is a refurbished version of the previous party thread for that mission, which was:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39538.0

Which was....Ok, I'll stop now.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 03/23/2017 04:52 AM
Whoooo-hoooooo!  PAAAARTAAAAAY!  I always wanted to be the first one at a party, I finally managed it.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 03/23/2017 05:13 AM
"You've gotta fight - for your right - to Paaaaaarrttyy!!"  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 03/23/2017 09:58 AM
Wait, the discussion threads are serious?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: guyw on 03/23/2017 10:58 AM
Wait, this thread isn't serious?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 03/23/2017 11:06 AM
I have always said, the Party threads have the best SnR of any SpaceX thread.

When was the last time a party thread debated if a Dragon capsule could fit on the adapter inside a five meter fairing on a Falcon Heavy?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 03/23/2017 11:41 AM
not the first post, but lets rock out anyways.

SpaceX Launch You Up...

https://vimeo.com/125746164

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 03/23/2017 02:13 PM
I have always said, the Party threads have the best SnR of any SpaceX thread.

When was the last time a party thread debated if a Dragon capsule could fit on the adapter inside a five meter fairing on a Falcon Heavy?

Nerd party. Whaddya expect? Fun is talking technical and silly puns. It's a puntechnicon.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jet Black on 03/23/2017 02:22 PM
What comes down, must go up!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: starhawk92 on 03/23/2017 04:57 PM
Dearest friend rocket-scientists & makers,

Agreeing, as we all do, that SES-10 will be highly successful and the booster successfully return to OCISLY, what would you do with said booster?

Do you rip it to shreds to see how it's holding up?  Run it off to McGregor to fire until failure?  Smile, pat it on the head, and HIF it for another launch in a few months?

What say you?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: whitelancer64 on 03/23/2017 05:01 PM
Can't have serious discussions in a party thread!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: starhawk92 on 03/23/2017 05:05 PM
Ummm . . . it's only a serious question if I expected a serious answer?

Did I manage to avoid a party foul?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 03/23/2017 06:11 PM
Dearest friend rocket-scientists & makers,

Agreeing, as we all do, that SES-10 will be highly successful and the booster successfully return to OCISLY, what would you do with said booster?

Do you rip it to shreds to see how it's holding up?  Run it off to McGregor to fire until failure?  Smile, pat it on the head, and HIF it for another launch in a few months?

What say you?

I say...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKPusRALbJQ
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ElGuapoGuano1 on 03/23/2017 06:21 PM
Dearest friend rocket-scientists & makers,

Agreeing, as we all do, that SES-10 will be highly successful and the booster successfully return to OCISLY, what would you do with said booster?

Do you rip it to shreds to see how it's holding up?  Run it off to McGregor to fire until failure?  Smile, pat it on the head, and HIF it for another launch in a few months?

What say you?

I'd throw a Welcome Home party and invite all it's best friends. JCSat-14, SES-9, etc. Well except for iLean, I heard they had a falling out ;-) Poor Thaicom-8 was "Crushed"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 03/23/2017 06:42 PM
I just tried to go to the other party, but the police had shut it down.  What happened?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 03/23/2017 07:32 PM
I just tried to go to the other party, but the police had shut it down.  What happened?
Noise complaint
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 03/23/2017 07:49 PM
What comes down, must go up!

Awww. I would have voted for that as thread name!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dodo on 03/23/2017 07:50 PM
Dearest friend rocket-scientists & makers, [...]

For a moment I read, "Dear racket makers,"...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 03/23/2017 09:56 PM
I just tried to go to the other party, but the police had shut it down.  What happened?
Noise  Signal complaint
There, fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 03/23/2017 10:09 PM
I hope someone makes a school bus traversing the moon mockup photo in preparation for the FH demo mission. I'm sure there is some educational benefit to explaining to children that there is a school bus in orbit, just can't quite put my finger on it.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Kansan52 on 03/23/2017 10:21 PM
OK, has the 'Launch You Up' video been updated? Some of the CGI's seem newer.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AJW on 03/24/2017 12:26 AM
OK, has the 'Launch You Up' video been updated? Some of the CGI's seem newer.

Some debate on L2 about whether this is actually a V1.2 video.  Rumors that internally this is referred to as 'Launch You up - Full Thrust'.  Others are simply calling it 'Launch You Up - Upgrade'.

Waiting for the official word from SpaceX.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 03/24/2017 12:37 AM
Dearest friend rocket-scientists & makers,

Agreeing, as we all do, that SES-10 will be highly successful and the booster successfully return to OCISLY, what would you do with said booster?

Do you rip it to shreds to see how it's holding up?  Run it off to McGregor to fire until failure?  Smile, pat it on the head, and HIF it for another launch in a few months?

What say you?
To the moon, Alice!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 03/24/2017 12:42 AM
I hope someone makes a school bus traversing the moon mockup photo in preparation for the FH demo mission. I'm sure there is some educational benefit to explaining to children that there is a school bus in orbit, just can't quite put my finger on it.

Bus driver:  You kids sit down in the back!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JAFO on 03/24/2017 05:59 AM
Wait, this thread isn't serious?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM2K7sV-K74 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM2K7sV-K74)

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Darkseraph on 03/24/2017 10:26 AM
I'm a tiny bit glad the launch got bumped to the 29th, as I'd have not been able to watch it on the 27th. Fingers crossed it doesn't move again! :P
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachF on 03/24/2017 12:56 PM
What comes down, must go up!

You win the thread
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ElGuapoGuano1 on 03/24/2017 05:58 PM
If you kids don't settle down back there, we won't ever fly by the moon again!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Formica on 03/24/2017 09:07 PM
I tell ya, as a SpaceX fanboi, I have WAY more butterflies in my stomach over the SES-10 launch than I have for any other SpaceX event so far. It's such a "put up or shut up" moment, for NewSpace, for SpaceX, for F9, for economic reuse, and on and on. To me it's the most important launch since F1 finally achieved orbit all those years ago. I have great faith that 1021 will succeed in its second mission... But there's no sure thing. To echo Elon, here's hoping Fate smiles on SES-10 and that we have great need of a reusable party thread on the 29th!

I hope this isn't too serious for a party thread, but I'm still transitioning from lurker to participant and I didn't want to get moderated 😨
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mme on 03/24/2017 09:27 PM
...
I hope this isn't too serious for a party thread, but I'm still transitioning from lurker to participant and I didn't want to get moderated 😨
Welcome! And don't worry about getting moderated. I get moderated all the time, it doesn't hurt at all! :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 03/24/2017 10:19 PM
...
I hope this isn't too serious for a party thread, but I'm still transitioning from lurker to participant and I didn't want to get moderated 😨
Welcome! And don't worry about getting moderated. I get moderated all the time, it doesn't hurt at all! :)

I even get moderated in the party thread... can't get much worse than that.

Edit/Lar: And edited...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 03/24/2017 11:58 PM
I'm not sure if this has been posted here or not, but I haven't seen it so....
 I'll delete it if it's already up somewhere. It's over two years old.
https://twitter.com/spacex/status/552876085743218688?lang=en
People are apparently using the word "waffle" way more often than I had previously thought.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Barrie on 03/25/2017 07:18 AM
What comes down, must go up!

I remember Dr Martin Cole using that slogan in a rather different context  :o
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 03/25/2017 11:03 AM
I'm not sure if this has been posted here or not, but I haven't seen it so....
 I'll delete it if it's already up somewhere. It's over two years old.
https://twitter.com/spacex/status/552876085743218688?lang=en
People are apparently using the word "waffle" way more often than I had previously thought.

Shouldn't that be in the updates thread? Or is the update thread to serious for this SpaceX update?

I guess even SpaceX gets moderated on the update thread ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: John Alan on 03/25/2017 04:47 PM
OCISLY, under tow by Elsbeth III, has left Port Canaveral it seems...  ???

"Webcam Never Named Here"... shows barge is missing...  :o
MarineTraffic.com shows Elsbeth III headed 117 at 3.7 knots... about 5 miles out right now...  ???

Looks like it's right on schedule...  8)

Looks like the party is getting underway...  :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris_Pi on 03/26/2017 05:21 AM
Just noticed the "Bird9" drawing has the tanks drawn with an... Un-common bulkhead design.

Throwing of rotten vegetables may now begin.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: smfarmer11 on 03/26/2017 11:07 PM
For the school bus, I have an idea what it might look like.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 03/27/2017 02:41 AM
For the school bus, I have an idea what it might look like.
Classic mission patch design.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CharlieWildman on 03/27/2017 03:31 AM
Just noticed the "Bird9" drawing has the tanks drawn with an... Un-common bulkhead design.

Throwing of rotten vegetables may now begin.


Also note... There are only two COPVs for the whole vehicle!  Clearly a huge improvement over the current design.  Could this really be leaked drawing of the vastly improved Bird 9B5?!! 
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 03/27/2017 02:55 PM
from the discussion thread...
No sign of venting yet.

i.e.
 
"I just can't believe whats happening on the pad these days!!!"

or,

 "For crying out loud, get the static fire done already? WHAT is taking so lonnnngggggg"

 ::)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 03/27/2017 06:26 PM
I'm just glad I live in the same time zone as LC-39A, that way I can ignore all the ET, EDT, EST, GMT time zone confusion in the SpaceX threads!

Go EDT!!!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Darkseraph on 03/27/2017 11:20 PM
Just my luck, launch date moved again to a date and time i won't be able to watch it live! :P
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 03/28/2017 12:58 AM
Lots of Static Fire photos from Brady Kenniston‏ (@TheFavoritist)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bradykenniston/sets/72157678598520073

A couple attached. Click the link for the rest and in hi res.

Good man as he was asking us what we wanted, etc.
If you haven't checked out these pics you should. Really gorgeous and very high res... I just got a couple new desktop backgrounds....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 03/28/2017 03:33 AM
from the discussion thread...
No sign of venting yet.

i.e.
 
"I just can't believe whats happening on the pad these days!!!"

or,

 "For crying out loud, get the static fire done already? WHAT is taking so lonnnngggggg"

 ::)
This just in:

"BREAKING NEWS!!!  No changes to report"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: faramund on 03/28/2017 08:01 AM
Well the change works for me. I teach at a Uni, and have been asking my students about whether they knew anything about SpaceX, many of them did, and many knew about the launch. Which is excellent!!!!

But the original time corresponded to 8am Australia time, which was when I had an 8am lecture.

Although, I did develop a backup plan, which was to have the spaceX launch stream running in the bottom right hand corner of a screen while I droned on about the intricacies of programming in different languages - which a satisfying number of students thought was a very good idea . But now, its 9am Friday Aussie time, and I don't have a class until 11am - so I can zone out without haven't to focus on two things at once - hoorah!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: jacqmans on 03/28/2017 03:30 PM
Launch Viewing for SpaceX SES-10

Watch the launch from Kennedy Space Center!

Witness liftoff from Kennedy Space Center’s Launch Complex 39 as the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket launches from LC-39A carrying the SES-10 communications satellite for SES. This is the first reuse of a recovered first stage of the Falcon 9 rocket. The Falcon 9 rocket’s reusable first stage will attempt a controlled landing on the autonomous spaceport drone ship (ASDS), Of Course I Still Love You, in the Atlantic Ocean.

Rocket Launch Location

 Launch viewing opportunities for SES-10 are available at Apollo/Saturn V Center and the main visitor complex with bleacher seating and launch commentary. Special launch viewing/transportation tickets to Apollo/Saturn V Center are available for $20, in addition to daily admission. Tickets for Apollo/Saturn V Center are available online. The main visitor complex viewing area is accessible with daily admission only. Restrooms, dining and souvenirs are available at both viewing areas.

 Special launch viewing/transportation ticket holders are transported by bus from the main visitor complex to special viewing areas at Kennedy Space Center. Visitors must have a daily admission ticket or annual pass in order to utilize launch viewing/transportation tickets. Since launch days often have many extra visitors, please allow time for travel, parking and entering the complex, including security bag search before boarding the bus for launch viewing. Arrive early to assure your viewing spot!

https://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/info/tickets
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mme on 03/28/2017 07:58 PM
I couldn't be online for the start time, so I wasn't going to try this time.  But, I guess I'll take a low percentage shot anyway.  O-26

If more shotgun starts are contemplated for future games, I hope we can stagger the start times some.

Future start times to be decided with:
$ echo $(($RANDOM % 24)) UTC

or:

By subtracting 1 from a 24 sided die.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: envy887 on 03/28/2017 08:06 PM
I couldn't be online for the start time, so I wasn't going to try this time.  But, I guess I'll take a low percentage shot anyway.  O-26

If more shotgun starts are contemplated for future games, I hope we can stagger the start times some.

Future start times to be decided with:
$ echo $(($RANDOM % 24)) UTC

or:

By subtracting 1 from a 24 sided die.

Or start the left half of the ASDS 12 hours before the right half.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 03/28/2017 08:48 PM
I couldn't be online for the start time, so I wasn't going to try this time.  But, I guess I'll take a low percentage shot anyway.  O-26

If more shotgun starts are contemplated for future games, I hope we can stagger the start times some.

Future start times to be decided with:
$ echo $(($RANDOM % 24)) UTC

or:

By subtracting 1 from a 24 sided die.

Green elf casts the transmorgify spell
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 03/28/2017 09:10 PM
Green elf casts the transmorgify spell
I thought it was breaths fire.... or is that just the nine wizards, what their name again?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 03/29/2017 08:33 PM
I'm a little surprised this didn't raise the insurance rate. There are a whole lot of factors you can't test on a stand.
 If they get this worked out in the next year, maybe they'll only need to build one booster for Boca Chica until they move up from one a month. Maybe two boosters in case Home Depot is closed the day they need to buy parts for refurbishment.

Will Home Depot take my Lowe's card?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: butters on 03/30/2017 01:12 AM
Possibly playing right now in the HIF:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t21DFnu00Dc
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 03/30/2017 06:56 AM
I'm a little surprised this didn't raise the insurance rate. There are a whole lot of factors you can't test on a stand.
 If they get this worked out in the next year, maybe they'll only need to build one booster for Boca Chica until they move up from one a month. Maybe two boosters in case Home Depot is closed the day they need to buy parts for refurbishment.

Will Home Depot take my Lowe's card?
"The Merlin parts are now on Aisle 17, past the Gorilla Tape, Sir.  Take one of the big carts."
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 03/30/2017 02:04 PM
"The Merlin parts are now on Aisle 17, past the Gorilla Tape, Sir.  Take one of the big carts."
Nine for the price of one
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: lele on 03/30/2017 02:25 PM
Dirty core on the pad. :D

High resolution picture.  :D

The future is made of dirty boosters and kinda rusted structures!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 03/30/2017 02:42 PM
"The Merlin parts are now on Aisle 17, past the Gorilla Tape, Sir.  Take one of the big carts."
Nine for the price of one
Buy 8 get the ninth one free
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Formica on 03/30/2017 03:06 PM
"The Merlin parts are now on Aisle 17, past the Gorilla Tape, Sir.  Take one of the big carts."
Nine for the price of one
Buy 8 get the ninth one free
Order now and get a piece of the booster for your boardroom ABSOLUTELY FREE!*

*offer not valid for new boosters. Void where prohibited. You must be at least this tall to ride Falcon 9. Check local listings for launch times.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 03/30/2017 03:35 PM
Dirty core on the pad. :D

High resolution picture.  :D

The future is made of dirty boosters and kinda rusted structures!

Probably doesn't have that new rocket smell anymore...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mme on 03/30/2017 04:24 PM
I hereby dub thee Blackjack. Time to double down!

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 03/30/2017 04:43 PM
"The Merlin parts are now on Aisle 17, past the Gorilla Tape, Sir.  Take one of the big carts."
Nine for the price of one
Buy 8 get the ninth one free
Order now and get a piece of the booster for your boardroom ABSOLUTELY FREE!*

*offer not valid for new boosters. Void where prohibited. You must be at least this tall to ride Falcon 9. Check local listings for launch times.

** We also offer free delivery. But we REALLY think you should pay for delivery, as we can't be responsible for what happens if we just land on top of your boardroom....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Skamp_X on 03/30/2017 04:43 PM
Still 5 hours to go...
Really wanna see this milestone.
Gonna have to push my hours a bit and be prepared for a harsh day tomorrow at work to watch this.
Just wanna hear "first stage has landed" so I can sleep with a big smile. :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dodo on 03/30/2017 04:47 PM
The NSF servers today.

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jarnis on 03/30/2017 04:52 PM
Naah, they have a fresh set of ablative coating and can take the heat.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: launchwatcher on 03/30/2017 04:57 PM
Order now and get a piece of the booster for your boardroom ABSOLUTELY FREE!*

*offer not valid for new boosters. Void where prohibited. You must be at least this tall to ride Falcon 9. Check local listings for launch times.

** We also offer free delivery. But we REALLY think you should pay for delivery, as we can't be responsible for what happens if we just land on top of your boardroom....
The Chinese have already achieved this.   We must not have a rocket part delivery gap!

http://gizmodo.com/part-of-a-rocket-engine-landed-in-this-guys-living-room-1727544878
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 03/30/2017 06:26 PM
The Chinese have already achieved this.   We must not have a rocket part delivery gap!

http://gizmodo.com/part-of-a-rocket-engine-landed-in-this-guys-living-room-1727544878
If we had not ignored the mine shaft gap, this would not be a problem.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Helodriver on 03/30/2017 07:00 PM
I've totally picked the song that's my soundtrack to tonight's mission!  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gin-l4LDdXQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gin-l4LDdXQ)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: landlubber on 03/30/2017 07:10 PM
Still 5 hours to go...
Really wanna see this milestone.
Gonna have to push my hours a bit and be prepared for a harsh day tomorrow at work to watch this.
Just wanna hear "first stage has landed" so I can sleep with a big smile. :)

Know the feeling. At work Friday 0430 AM. It's going to be really harsh :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 03/30/2017 07:26 PM
I've totally picked the song that's my soundtrack to tonight's mission!  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gin-l4LDdXQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gin-l4LDdXQ)

Dude

I didn't know you were in to 80s hair bands. What a coincidence, I'm going to an 80's party saturday.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: northenarc on 03/30/2017 07:34 PM
 Ah well if we're going that retro I'll go 180 in the other direction, this was the song I thought of when Falcon first pulled off a barge landing
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNEgUPKxk7A
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 03/30/2017 07:43 PM
Hehe, okay, I just *have* to... it's a party thread, so sometimes posts come out of right field, right?  I can't help but think this might've been humming along in the mind of the ASDS at some point in the not too distant past.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zslUua_jGy4
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: toruonu on 03/30/2017 09:20 PM
Ah today is the first time I can watch the launch using the native Youtube app on my new 65" LG 4K TV. Too bad SpaceX isn't streaming the launch in 4K...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/30/2017 09:33 PM
Abby Garrett‏
@abbygarrettX

#SpaceX launch day comic strip No. 3 Pt. 1 is out! Part 2 will be released upon #SES10 mission success 🚀 @NASASpaceflight @F9FirstStage

https://twitter.com/abbygarrettX/status/847559639927582720

Love these! Click on it and enjoy! :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 03/30/2017 09:47 PM
Ah today is the first time I can watch the launch using the native Youtube app on my new 65" LG 4K TV. Too bad SpaceX isn't streaming the launch in 4K...
They upscale very well.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 03/30/2017 09:48 PM
I am ridiculously nervous and excited for this launch.....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: jimbowman on 03/30/2017 09:52 PM
Ah today is the first time I can watch the launch using the native Youtube app on my new 65" LG 4K TV. Too bad SpaceX isn't streaming the launch in 4K...

I'm gonna cast it to my 4k Vizio as well. One day we will have 4k! One day Direct/Att will also decide to give me NASA channel in HD as well.  >:(
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 03/30/2017 09:57 PM
Music!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Orbiter on 03/30/2017 10:03 PM
SpaceX's webcast always has some pretty tight beats before starting.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Saabstory88 on 03/30/2017 10:06 PM
GO! GO! GO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHIo6qwJarI
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 03/30/2017 10:17 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/139rxc.jpg)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 03/30/2017 10:34 PM
I'm crying here......
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Sohl on 03/30/2017 10:37 PM
YES!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 03/30/2017 10:40 PM
Heartbeat has returned.....  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: sewand on 03/30/2017 10:40 PM
Elon is pretty composed!  What a huge accomplishment! Congratulations!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 03/30/2017 10:40 PM
As my four year old says when he's giddy happy: Boom shakalaka BAM!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: M_Puckett on 03/30/2017 10:40 PM
Beautiful!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elmar Moelzer on 03/30/2017 10:41 PM
I am so glad I got to see this! History was made today! Congrats to all involved!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: sunbingfa on 03/30/2017 10:43 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so happy that we are in this time.... and I have watched the first landing and first relaunch live!

These are things that I'm going to tell my kids over and over again (hopefully including when they book an affordable ticket to space)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Alpha Control on 03/30/2017 10:44 PM
Me too! I left work early, to come home and set up for watching this live.  This really is historic. The moment was tense, when the link dropped out, but when it came back, and there she was, standing tall & proud on the deck against the sunset - Wow! a genuine thrill.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Oersted on 03/30/2017 10:44 PM
Let's have a thought for the right-most grid fin which received quite a toasting upon re-entering the atmosphere. Amazing footage, until it cut out.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 03/30/2017 10:45 PM
Elon looked teary eyed with joy, congrats and well done on reflight! :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 03/30/2017 10:46 PM
Let's have a thought for the right-most grid fin which received quite a toasting upon re-entering the atmosphere. Amazing footage, until it cut out.
Ready for the waffle batter... ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Alpha Control on 03/30/2017 10:48 PM
Let's have a thought for the right-most grid fin which received quite a toasting upon re-entering the atmosphere. Amazing footage, until it cut out.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Hadn't seen that before. Glad it came through okay!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: FutureSpaceTourist on 03/30/2017 10:51 PM
Here's a different take on things from North Korea:

Quote
United States technological dwarfs forced to recycle rockets for limping space program.

Mighty missiles of DPRK are used once and once only

https://twitter.com/dprk_news/status/847580091735355392 (https://twitter.com/dprk_news/status/847580091735355392)

Genius!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 03/30/2017 10:51 PM
So....I guess it is possible to land and re-fly an orbital class rocket.  What's next SpaceX?  :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: toruonu on 03/30/2017 10:52 PM
Glad I decided to stay up (it's 1:50AM and the kid woke me before 7AM today and will again tomorrow). Have watched essentially all F9 launches live no matter which ungodly hours they are. Have to say I was as frozen with adrenaline and heart going as I was post-CRS-7 RTF counting down the seconds until MECO.

History will remember 30.03.2017!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 03/30/2017 10:52 PM
Here's a different take on things from North Korea:

Quote
United States technological dwarfs forced to recycle rockets for limping space program.

Mighty missiles of DPRK are used once and once only

https://twitter.com/dprk_news/status/847580091735355392 (https://twitter.com/dprk_news/status/847580091735355392)

Genius!

Is that a spoof?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 03/30/2017 10:53 PM
Glad I decided to stay up (it's 1:50AM and the kid woke me before 7AM today and will again tomorrow). Have watched essentially all F9 launches live no matter which ungodly hours they are. Have to say I was as frozen with adrenaline and heart going as I was post-CRS counting down the seconds until MECO.

History will remember 30.03.2017!

Worth it, though, right??
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Sohl on 03/30/2017 10:53 PM
I just re-watched "SpaceX Launch You Up"  in observance of this historic moment.   8)
(https://vimeo.com/125746164 (https://vimeo.com/125746164))
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Zed_Noir on 03/30/2017 10:54 PM
Let's have a thought for the right-most grid fin which received quite a toasting upon re-entering the atmosphere. Amazing footage, until it cut out.

Definitely the board room wall ornament candidate for SES. ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mme on 03/30/2017 10:55 PM
That was awesome! Now can I get some volunteers to help me drag these goalposts?  They are getting really heavy!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 03/30/2017 10:55 PM
So....I guess it is possible to land and re-fly an orbital class rocket.  What's next SpaceX?  :)
Stage 2 :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Oersted on 03/30/2017 10:57 PM
Jeff Bezos: "Welcome to the club"... - Bozo!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: FutureSpaceTourist on 03/30/2017 10:57 PM
Here's a different take on things from North Korea:

Quote
United States technological dwarfs forced to recycle rockets for limping space program.

Mighty missiles of DPRK are used once and once only

https://twitter.com/dprk_news/status/847580091735355392 (https://twitter.com/dprk_news/status/847580091735355392)

Genius!

Is that a spoof?

It is a funny, sometimes hysterical, feed. It claims to be real, I'm not sure!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: launchwatcher on 03/30/2017 10:58 PM
Here's a different take on things from North Korea:

Quote
United States technological dwarfs forced to recycle rockets for limping space program.

Mighty missiles of DPRK are used once and once only

https://twitter.com/dprk_news/status/847580091735355392 (https://twitter.com/dprk_news/status/847580091735355392)

Genius!

Is that a spoof?
It's a parody account that has managed to fool a lot of real news organizations.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AC in NC on 03/30/2017 10:58 PM
I am so glad I got to see this! History was made today! Congrats to all involved!

I can't help but feeling one of the greatest days in history that 99% of the developed world doesn't even appreciate.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Alpha Control on 03/30/2017 11:01 PM
So....I guess it is possible to land and re-fly an orbital class rocket.  What's next SpaceX?  :)
Stage 2 :)

Re-flight of Dragon.  :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 03/30/2017 11:04 PM
So....I guess it is possible to land and re-fly an orbital class rocket.  What's next SpaceX?  :)
Stage 2 :)

Re-flight of Dragon.  :)

Launch it again!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 03/30/2017 11:06 PM
Where is the conspiracy video guy?? ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JazzFan on 03/30/2017 11:07 PM
So....I guess it is possible to land and re-fly an orbital class rocket.  What's next SpaceX?  :)
Stage 2 :)

Re-flight of Dragon.  :)

Launch it again!!

I would say keep re-launching it until it fails.  But then again, I'm not a paying customer or the insurance company.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cebri on 03/30/2017 11:17 PM
That was awesome! Now can I get some volunteers to help me drag these goalposts?  They are getting really heavy!

But but but they haven't proven reusability will actually drive down the cost¡¡¡ [/irony]
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Eagandale4114 on 03/30/2017 11:19 PM
That was awesome! Now can I get some volunteers to help me drag these goalposts?  They are getting really heavy!

Might need a Falcon Heavy for those goalposts ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 03/30/2017 11:19 PM
Wait until you see both FH boosters return for a landing and that entire vehicle gets flown again.  :o
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/30/2017 11:28 PM
That was crazy, but we survived it again, with guests on. Again, the continually beefed up servers are dealing with these events. Thanks to Mark and thanks to the L2 members that allow us to throw a boat load of cash at IBM to pay for these servers.

Check out the surge for launch and landing - and the coast (where a lot of people move their eyes from the webcast to the forum). ;D

That first bar is actually a very busy site! A few years ago, that first bar would be a point we'd go Bad Gateway! The top one is ludicrous mode.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 03/30/2017 11:56 PM
That was crazy, but we survived it again, with guests on. Again, the continually beefed up servers are dealing with these events. Thanks to Mark and thanks to the L2 members that allow us to throw a boat load of cash at IBM to pay for these servers.

Check out the surge for launch and landing - and the coast (where a lot of people move their eyes from the webcast to the forum). ;D

That first bar is actually a very busy site! A few years ago, that first bar would be a point we'd go Bad Gateway! The top one is lubricious mode.

Hey Chris,
L2 Life member here -- just tell us when you need more cash -- it will be so.
No worries mate, your site deserves it.
AncientU
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 03/31/2017 12:30 AM
Yes, going to party like I actually watched the launch instead of being stuck in a meeting with the west coast that droned on forever. What do you mean you have to go, it's only three. We are also eating a late lunch.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rickl on 03/31/2017 12:32 AM
Today was an emotional rollercoaster for me.  I had to take my beloved cat Kira in for surgery this morning, her second in a month. 

Without going into great detail, it went well and I brought her home after work, in time to watch the launch.

There were about a half dozen ways today could have gone horribly wrong.  Instead it went as well as it possibly could have.


Hey Chris,
L2 Life member here -- just tell us when you need more cash -- it will be so.
No worries mate, your site deserves it.
AncientU

^^This.  I second that sentiment.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Formica on 03/31/2017 12:33 AM
Way to go Chris G with the last question and the level of detail!!! Block 5 details!!! Awesome.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/31/2017 12:37 AM
Way to go Chris G with the last question and the level of detail!!! Block 5 details!!! Awesome.

There was a presser about seven years ago where Chris asked a question of the ISS manager and he said "That's an excellent question, really excellent".

Now he's got praise from Elon.

Brilliant reporter and a great guy. Overjoyed for him!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 03/31/2017 12:44 AM
Here's a different take on things from North Korea:

Quote
United States technological dwarfs forced to recycle rockets for limping space program.

Mighty missiles of DPRK are used once and once only

https://twitter.com/dprk_news/status/847580091735355392 (https://twitter.com/dprk_news/status/847580091735355392)

Genius!

Is that a spoof?
Obvs.

Check some of the other stories.


That was crazy, but we survived it again, with guests on. Again, the continually beefed up servers are dealing with these events. Thanks to Mark and thanks to the L2 members that allow us to throw a boat load of cash at IBM to pay for these servers.
This IBMer (and IBM stockholder) would like to say "thank you for your business!"

This life L2 member would like to say "if you need more cash, please pass the hat to the lifers, we're good for some more cash"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 03/31/2017 12:46 AM
Here's a different take on things from North Korea:

Quote
United States technological dwarfs forced to recycle rockets for limping space program.

Mighty missiles of DPRK are used once and once only

https://twitter.com/dprk_news/status/847580091735355392 (https://twitter.com/dprk_news/status/847580091735355392)

Genius!

Is that a spoof?
Obvs.

Check some of the other stories.

Yes, after I asked and looked, I realized it.  Also, when I realized that NK doesn't have the technology to get on twitter in the first place!!  LOL
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 03/31/2017 12:51 AM
Yes, after I asked and looked, I realized it.  Also, when I realized that NK doesn't have the technology to get on twitter in the first place!!  LOL
That's DPRK to you, buddy... Don't make me go all Kim on your ---
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 03/31/2017 12:54 AM
Yes, after I asked and looked, I realized it.  Also, when I realized that NK doesn't have the technology to get on twitter in the first place!!  LOL
That's DPRK to you, buddy... Don't make me go all Kim on your ---

Lucky I finished my drink before I sprayed my computer!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 03/31/2017 01:00 AM
Yes, after I asked and looked, I realized it.  Also, when I realized that NK doesn't have the technology to get on twitter in the first place!!  LOL
That's DPRK to you, buddy... Don't make me go all Kim on your ---

As someone with the initials NK, people calling it DPRK is so nice, I wish could reward everyone who does with a free LEGO...

...element.  :P
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AndyX on 03/31/2017 01:02 AM
NSF is a battletank these days!

Look at it fly with all these people on right now.....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 03/31/2017 01:08 AM
Yes, after I asked and looked, I realized it.  Also, when I realized that NK doesn't have the technology to get on twitter in the first place!!  LOL
That's DPRK to you, buddy... Don't make me go all Kim on your ---

As someone with the initials NK, people calling it DPRK is so nice, I wish could reward everyone who does with a free lego...

...element.  :P

It's all caps, bro... "LEGO elements are awesome" :) Don't make me come over to  your house and leave a bunch of 2x2 bricks (the most painful kind) next to your bed in the middle of the night so you step on them....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 03/31/2017 01:15 AM
Can anyone confirm the reports of other launch provider executives were seen in their respective corners hunched over in a fetal position sobbing...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/31/2017 01:17 AM
Can anyone confirm the reports of other launch provider executives were seen in their respective corners hunched over in a fetal position sobbing...

Naughty! And to be fair, Tory sent congrats on Twitter.

Space industry should be like that. I mean after 90 minutes of kicking chunks out of each other at a football match, you shake hands at the end of the game.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 03/31/2017 01:18 AM
Don't make me come over to  your house and leave a bunch of 2x2 bricks (the most painful kind) next to your bed in the middle of the night so you step on them....

So, if SpaceX covered the deck of the ASDS in titanium panels with posts of LEGO-brick-compatible dimensions, could they apply plates to the bottom of the roomba so it clicks into place securely and with no chance of sliding?  (This is a party-serious question, of course, and not merely an attempt to distract while a previous post is edited by a few bits of ASCII.)  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 03/31/2017 01:38 AM
Can anyone confirm the reports of other launch provider executives were seen in their respective corners hunched over in a fetal position sobbing...

Naughty! And to be fair, Tory sent congrats on Twitter.

Space industry should be like that. I mean after 90 minutes of kicking chunks out of each other at a football match, you shake hands at the end of the game.
Tory is a good man, I would like to see if the others are so magnanimous...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 03/31/2017 01:45 AM
Don't make me come over to  your house and leave a bunch of 2x2 bricks (the most painful kind) next to your bed in the middle of the night so you step on them....

So, if SpaceX covered the deck of the ASDS in titanium panels with posts of LEGO-brick-compatible dimensions, could they apply plates to the bottom of the roomba so it clicks into place securely and with no chance of sliding?  (This is a party-serious question, of course, and not merely an attempt to distract while a previous post is edited by a few bits of ASCII.)  ;D

The more studs you have in a row, the more accurate your rotational alignment has to be for it to work. So the Xoomba would have to first rotate and translate to a very precise alignment. (when I say "in a row" I'm including the studs 40 feet away, since you have to align with them too)

I have some clone 2x4 brick elements machined from aluminum. The clutch power isn't that good because there isn't enough give (part of what makes LEGO elements clutch is the precise dimensional tolerances, and the other part is that ABS has just the right amount of flex)... but they clutch with plastic elements ok. Just not with each other.

Can anyone confirm the reports of other launch provider executives were seen in their respective corners hunched over in a fetal position sobbing...

Naughty! And to be fair, Tory sent congrats on Twitter.

Space industry should be like that. I mean after 90 minutes of kicking chunks out of each other at a football match, you shake hands at the end of the game.
Tory is a good man, I would like to see if the others are so magnanimous...

Agree about Tory. Good man. As is Dr. Soros.

I heard a rumor Jeff Bezos wasn't, saying 'welcome to the club' as if he'd done an actual paying mission to orbit booster reuse already.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dorkmo on 03/31/2017 02:08 AM
well i dont know about you guys but im ready to launch this stage...

one more time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGBhQbmPwH8
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 03/31/2017 02:42 AM
Barring something totally bizarre, we will have a winner! :)

Coming soon to a theatre near you...
ATTACK OF THE ROOMBA
If the Roomba knocks over the stage, then clearly it was misidentified as Optimus Prime.  Wrecking the stage would be a total Decepticon move.  Have to rename it Megatron.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 03/31/2017 02:58 AM
Wait.. Falcon 9 version 2.5?  Mind blown!
New Poll: Is SpaceX now the world's leading company when it comes to inconsistent naming conventions?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 03/31/2017 03:05 AM
Quote
If the Roomba knocks over the stage, then clearly it was misidentified as Optimus Prime.  Wrecking the stage would be a total Decepticon move.  Have to rename it Megatron.

Hmm.... that's strangely familiar.  Coincidence?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 03/31/2017 03:24 AM
Wait.. Falcon 9 version 2.5?  Mind blown!
New Poll: Is SpaceX now the world's leading company when it comes to inconsistent naming conventions?

99 standards for naming it now.
99 standards for names.
You take one down, pass it around.
100 standards for naming it now.  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Norm38 on 03/31/2017 03:47 AM
So who gets the slagged grid fin as a conference room trophy?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Surfdaddy on 03/31/2017 04:34 AM
That was crazy, but we survived it again, with guests on. Again, the continually beefed up servers are dealing with these events. Thanks to Mark and thanks to the L2 members that allow us to throw a boat load of cash at IBM to pay for these servers.

Check out the surge for launch and landing - and the coast (where a lot of people move their eyes from the webcast to the forum). ;D

That first bar is actually a very busy site! A few years ago, that first bar would be a point we'd go Bad Gateway! The top one is ludicrous mode.

Just wait until Falcon Heavy!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: joek on 03/31/2017 05:03 AM
New Poll: Is SpaceX now the world's leading company when it comes to inconsistent naming conventions?

Nah... IBM has tenaciously held and defended that title for decades.  And Elon did say something to the effect of "about v2.5".  So between the presumably v1.2 (current) and  ~v2.5 (Block 5), we have a delta of ~1.3.  Which would imply an enormous difference based on past versions (zero-based).  OTOH, the version numbers may be non-linear, where we are asymptotically approaching the final Block 5 or ~v2.5.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JayWee on 03/31/2017 05:27 AM
Or maybe it's just Falcon 9 v1.2.5? And he could have just omitted the (implied) 1. Such a scheme is pretty common in the software world.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Zed_Noir on 03/31/2017 06:19 AM
That was crazy, but we survived it again, with guests on. Again, the continually beefed up servers are dealing with these events. Thanks to Mark and thanks to the L2 members that allow us to throw a boat load of cash at IBM to pay for these servers.

Check out the surge for launch and landing - and the coast (where a lot of people move their eyes from the webcast to the forum). ;D

That first bar is actually a very busy site! A few years ago, that first bar would be a point we'd go Bad Gateway! The top one is ludicrous mode.

Just wait until Falcon Heavy!

Bah! That is nothing, compare to when the Grey Dragon lifts off in late 2018. Hope Chris B is planning for it now.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Proponent on 03/31/2017 10:51 AM
Would you buy a used rocket from this man?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ugordan on 03/31/2017 10:56 AM
Seeing that single, static shot of the landed stage just silently pop up out of a black screen on the technical webcast gave me an eerie feeling because it reminded me of a scene from a movie you might recognize. I guess it was the combination of the clouds, the afternoon lighting and the camera looking slightly up to catch a tall object, silence on the audio loop, all conspired to to make the connection in my mind. I didn't get that feeling on previous landings.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 03/31/2017 02:25 PM
Would you buy a used rocket from this man?
;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: DOCinCT on 03/31/2017 03:43 PM
Just watched the technical webcast; I suggest the following:
Go to T-0 (roughly 18:50 on the stream)
Crank up the volume on your viewing device (subwoofer helps)
Watch the video for the next 100-120 seconds.
Enjoy.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 03/31/2017 03:50 PM
If Falcon Heavy was a Rock n Roll super group who would be in it?  Discuss.   ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 03/31/2017 03:55 PM
Wait.. Falcon 9 version 2.5?  Mind blown!
New Poll: Is SpaceX now the world's leading company when it comes to inconsistent naming conventions?
Do we actually need a poll for that?  They're clearly the world's leading ROCKET company at this. But not the worlds leading COMPANY... We IBMers rename things as soon as the customers know what they're called. And jump version numbers..

New Poll: Is SpaceX now the world's leading company when it comes to inconsistent naming conventions?

Nah... IBM has tenaciously held and defended that title for decades. 

(Thank you very much! It's good to be recognized for something...)

(my product was 7.0, 7.1, 7.1.1. 7.1.2, 7.1.3, 8.0, 8.0.1, 8.5, 9.1 (hey, where'd 9.0 go?) then 11.3 (um, 10? 11.0?) and is now at 11.5.0.1 )

ANYONE not yet clear on why I'm not an official IBM spokeperson??? !!!! ???  LOL
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Doesitfloat on 03/31/2017 04:23 PM
My apologies to all Spacex, KSC, SES, workers involved in this launch. All the launch imperfections the burnt grid fins and loss of video can all be attributed to....
I jinxed it :(
Opened the celebratory beer during terminal count.
Yep total rookie move- such arrogance on my part- I feel terrible. I'm sorry.
My only explanation is:
Who wants to watch history being made without a beer in had.

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 03/31/2017 05:48 PM
My product was 7.0, 7.1, 7.1.1. 7.1.2, 7.1.3, 8.0, 8.0.1, 8.5, 9.1 (hey, where'd 9.0 go?)...

I guess seven ate nine
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 03/31/2017 05:49 PM
My apologies to all Spacex, KSC, SES, workers involved in this launch. All the launch imperfections the burnt grid fins and loss of video can all be attributed to....
I jinxed it :(
Opened the celebratory beer during terminal count.
Yep total rookie move- such arrogance on my part- I feel terrible. I'm sorry.
My only explanation is:
Who wants to watch history being made without a beer in had.


Agreed... since of course
A beer in the had is worth two in the bus.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: padrat on 03/31/2017 05:53 PM
Would you buy a used rocket from this man?

OMG.....

I think that needs to go up on a wall at work somewhere.
I about fell out of my chair.....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: 3Davideo on 03/31/2017 06:07 PM
(Thank you very much! It's good to be recognized for something...)

(my product was 7.0, 7.1, 7.1.1. 7.1.2, 7.1.3, 8.0, 8.0.1, 8.5, 9.1 (hey, where'd 9.0 go?) then 11.3 (um, 10? 11.0?) and is now at 11.5.0.1 )

ANYONE not yet clear on why I'm not an official IBM spokeperson??? !!!! ???  LOL

Well, they're all real numbers, nonnegative, and in order.  If someone tries to give you version 6.0 + 7.1*i, you might want to panic. 
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 03/31/2017 06:15 PM
Would you buy a used rocket from this man?

OMG.....

I think that needs to go up on a wall at work somewhere.
I about fell out of my chair.....
I book of faces'ed it:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/spacexgroup/permalink/10155247401606318/

We are beginning to see the designs of Elon, the evil genius...  (pinkie firmly planted in corner of mouth)

The fairing will deploy cold-gas thrusters and small pop-out grid fins to stabilize into a flyable aeroshell, navigating to a selected capture zone. At which point, the very large airship will open up it's large under slung cargo hold and the fairings will fly in and be caught in nets. The airship will then make its way to Elon's secret volcano lair ... which opens up it's hidden landing pad area, etc. Submarines or fast boats will return the shells to shore for additional processing.

 8)

I was really close here...   
    thrusters (check - sort of)
    flyable aeroshell  (sort of again, check)
    airship = really large bouncy castle  (check)

volcano lair ... welllll, we don't know the whole plan yet, really so I still have a shot.

 8)


We know Elon likes to wing walk. But I'm not convinced. Walking on top of an airship voids the warranty. And you really don't want to cross Goodyear :) So I think landing the fairing on top is Right Out.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 03/31/2017 06:17 PM
(Thank you very much! It's good to be recognized for something...)

(my product was 7.0, 7.1, 7.1.1. 7.1.2, 7.1.3, 8.0, 8.0.1, 8.5, 9.1 (hey, where'd 9.0 go?) then 11.3 (um, 10? 11.0?) and is now at 11.5.0.1 )

ANYONE not yet clear on why I'm not an official IBM spokeperson??? !!!! ???  LOL

Well, they're all real numbers, nonnegative, and in order.  If someone tries to give you version 6.0 + 7.1*i, you might want to panic. 
Our products are never imaginary.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: punder on 03/31/2017 06:25 PM
So I think landing the fairing on top is Right Out.

I saw what you did there!   :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/31/2017 06:34 PM
Share. SHARE LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT! ;D

https://twitter.com/abbygarrettX/status/847836229991358464
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 03/31/2017 06:54 PM
I told her she needs to make a children's book of these, they are SO CUTE!!!!

(she said she's already talking to SpaceX... Can whoever is having lunch with Elon next please put in a good word???)

I have her ITS poster.

https://twitter.com/lar_p/status/847888739074494464

Even the mailing tube is awesome

https://twitter.com/lar_p/status/847889280630501380
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 03/31/2017 06:56 PM
I told her she needs to make a children's book of these, they are SO CUTE!!!!

(she said she's already talking to SpaceX... Can whoever is having lunch with Elon next please put in a good word???)

I am planning to save them and share them with my granddaughter (she will be born in about 2 months).
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 03/31/2017 07:17 PM
So I think landing the fairing on top is Right Out.

I saw what you did there!   :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: groknull on 04/01/2017 01:56 AM
(Thank you very much! It's good to be recognized for something...)

(my product was 7.0, 7.1, 7.1.1. 7.1.2, 7.1.3, 8.0, 8.0.1, 8.5, 9.1 (hey, where'd 9.0 go?) then 11.3 (um, 10? 11.0?) and is now at 11.5.0.1 )

ANYONE not yet clear on why I'm not an official IBM spokeperson??? !!!! ???  LOL

Well, they're all real numbers, nonnegative, and in order.  If someone tries to give you version 6.0 + 7.1*i, you might want to panic. 
Our products are never imaginary.

Perhaps, but 11.3 + 0*i is still complex...


Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rei on 04/01/2017 02:44 AM
Would you buy a used rocket from this man?

OMG.....

I think that needs to go up on a wall at work somewhere.
I about fell out of my chair.....
I book of faces'ed it:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/spacexgroup/permalink/10155247401606318/

We are beginning to see the designs of Elon, the evil genius...  (pinkie firmly planted in corner of mouth)

The fairing will deploy cold-gas thrusters and small pop-out grid fins to stabilize into a flyable aeroshell, navigating to a selected capture zone. At which point, the very large airship will open up it's large under slung cargo hold and the fairings will fly in and be caught in nets. The airship will then make its way to Elon's secret volcano lair ... which opens up it's hidden landing pad area, etc. Submarines or fast boats will return the shells to shore for additional processing.

 8)

I was really close here...   
    thrusters (check - sort of)
    flyable aeroshell  (sort of again, check)
    airship = really large bouncy castle  (check)

volcano lair ... welllll, we don't know the whole plan yet, really so I still have a shot.

 8)


If he's in the market for a secret volcano lair I'd recommend the South Sandwich Islands, probably Saunders.  What do they have going for them that an aspiring supervillain like Musk might like?

 * Remote
 * Rarely visited
 * Rough seas and fierce storms
 * Towering cliffs of rock and ice
 * The essential "huge active volcanoes" for your boring machines to build a lair in.
 * On Saunders, an added bonus: it's believe that the top of Mount Michael has one of the world's few persistent lava lakes. But it's so little explored that nobody knows for sure, we just have hot pixels on IR images to go by.
 * Huge population of penguins for you to Neuralink up as your minions.
 * If you want to launch some conquer-the-world doomsday weapon you're going to want it on a polar orbit so that it can target all locations on the planet from a low altitude with frequent passes - so you don't need an equatorial site.
 * Disputed territory - opportunities to play the UK and Argentina off against each other as part of your Machiavellian schemes.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MKremer on 04/01/2017 05:47 AM
If Falcon Heavy was a Rock n Roll super group who would be in it?  Discuss.   ;D
You're trying to start a small war, aren't you?  :o 🤘🏼
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: tyrred on 04/01/2017 07:03 AM
If Falcon Heavy was a Rock n Roll super group who would be in it?  Discuss.   ;D
Dave Grohl, Brian Cook, Tosin Abasi and Bruno Mars.

(ducks)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ziceva on 04/01/2017 11:44 AM
Don't know if somebody else noted this ... But the thread should be named "Launch, Land, and Relaunch, AND RELAND Party thread" :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MattMason on 04/01/2017 06:36 PM
I hear Peggy opened up a special payload for use in the BEAM today...

(https://spaceflightblunders.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/beam-bouncy.jpg)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachS09 on 04/01/2017 07:01 PM
I hear Peggy opened up a special payload for use in the BEAM today...

(https://spaceflightblunders.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/beam-bouncy.jpg)

A ball pit? Since when did Whitson bring up a whole bunch of colored balls?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 04/01/2017 08:20 PM
They were freeze-dried.  Just add water.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mattstep on 04/02/2017 01:54 AM
Elon announced his new plan to combat climate change today!

(http://i.imgur.com/GUgFyCh.png)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Scylla on 04/02/2017 02:13 AM
Elon Musk‏ @elonmusk
Technology breakthrough: turns out chemtrails are actually a message from time-traveling aliens describing the secret of teleportation

Elon Musk‏ @elonmusk
Why did we waste so much time developing silly rockets? Damn you, aliens! So obtuse! You have all this crazy tech, but can't speak English!?
2:44 PM · Apr 1, 2017
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/848244577521647616
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CJ on 04/02/2017 02:49 AM
Elon Musk‏ @elonmusk
Technology breakthrough: turns out chemtrails are actually a message from time-traveling aliens describing the secret of teleportation

Elon Musk‏ @elonmusk
Why did we waste so much time developing silly rockets? Damn you, aliens! So obtuse! You have all this crazy tech, but can't speak English!?
2:44 PM · Apr 1, 2017
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/848244577521647616

Scylla, I read that and thought you made it up (It's April 1st), and thought it was hilarious. Than I clicked the link, expecting a rickroll or similar, and see he really did tweet that.  ;D 8)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rakaydos on 04/02/2017 04:08 AM
Would you buy a used rocket from this man?

OMG.....

I think that needs to go up on a wall at work somewhere.
I about fell out of my chair.....
I book of faces'ed it:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/spacexgroup/permalink/10155247401606318/

We are beginning to see the designs of Elon, the evil genius...  (pinkie firmly planted in corner of mouth)

The fairing will deploy cold-gas thrusters and small pop-out grid fins to stabilize into a flyable aeroshell, navigating to a selected capture zone. At which point, the very large airship will open up it's large under slung cargo hold and the fairings will fly in and be caught in nets. The airship will then make its way to Elon's secret volcano lair ... which opens up it's hidden landing pad area, etc. Submarines or fast boats will return the shells to shore for additional processing.

 8)

I was really close here...   
    thrusters (check - sort of)
    flyable aeroshell  (sort of again, check)
    airship = really large bouncy castle  (check)

volcano lair ... welllll, we don't know the whole plan yet, really so I still have a shot.

 8)


If he's in the market for a secret volcano lair I'd recommend the South Sandwich Islands, probably Saunders.  What do they have going for them that an aspiring supervillain like Musk might like?

 * Remote
 * Rarely visited
 * Rough seas and fierce storms
 * Towering cliffs of rock and ice
 * The essential "huge active volcanoes" for your boring machines to build a lair in.
 * On Saunders, an added bonus: it's believe that the top of Mount Michael has one of the world's few persistent lava lakes. But it's so little explored that nobody knows for sure, we just have hot pixels on IR images to go by.
 * Huge population of penguins for you to Neuralink up as your minions.
 * If you want to launch some conquer-the-world doomsday weapon you're going to want it on a polar orbit so that it can target all locations on the planet from a low altitude with frequent passes - so you don't need an equatorial site.
 * Disputed territory - opportunities to play the UK and Argentina off against each other as part of your Machiavellian schemes.
You are going too hollywood for your secret volcano lairs.

Elon needs to build a launch facility into Chimborazo. near-zero inclination, almost as low air pressure at the peak as Everest. And an inactive volcano for his volcano lair.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 04/02/2017 04:44 AM
If Falcon Heavy was a Rock n Roll super group who would be in it?  Discuss.   ;D
Dave Grohl, Brian Cook, Tosin Abasi and Bruno Mars.

(ducks)
The sad thing is: I recognize only one name on that list and that's because they made a SpaceX parody out of his biggest hit.  Am I a geek?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 04/02/2017 04:58 AM
<snip>
According to Jeff Foust, Elon said might be "fun to try a Hail Mary (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/847599210513944577)" and recover the second stage.
I fully expect SpaceX to announce the hiring of a new intern to help them with the Hail Mary.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: andrewsdanj on 04/02/2017 06:44 AM
Falcon Heavy demo in mid-late  summer?  Silly payload you say? Core on OCISLY?

13 tons of mixed gravel to GTO with a subsurface periapsis roughly around NYC to do the July 4th fireworks *PROPERLY*.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Formica on 04/02/2017 03:45 PM
My apologies to all Spacex, KSC, SES, workers involved in this launch. All the launch imperfections the burnt grid fins and loss of video can all be attributed to....
I jinxed it :(
Opened the celebratory beer during terminal count.
Yep total rookie move- such arrogance on my part- I feel terrible. I'm sorry.
My only explanation is:
Who wants to watch history being made without a beer in had.
It's cool. I wore my special lucky SpaceX hoodie all day and crossed my fingers extra hard, so I'm pretty sure you can be forgiven for your beer based transgression  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: pb2000 on 04/02/2017 03:53 PM
Falcon Heavy demo in mid-late  summer?  Silly payload you say? Core on OCISLY?

I vote for a gigantic (>250M diameter) inflatable pig placed in a slowly decaying LEO or a sparsely populated MEO.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: IntoTheVoid on 04/02/2017 05:46 PM
Falcon Heavy demo in mid-late  summer?  Silly payload you say? Core on OCISLY?

I vote for a gigantic (>250M diameter) inflatable pig placed in a slowly decaying LEO or a sparsely populated MEO.

Well, that's far better than a slowly decaying pig in a sparsely populated inflatable habitat.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lars-J on 04/02/2017 10:22 PM
Totally off topic...

Whats the difference between LARS and LARS-J.
This is the first time I noticed you were different people.
You both seem very knowledgeable.

He's LAR (not Lars). :) Not the same person. He is a mod, I am not. I'm an armchair opiniator shouting at windmills.  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/02/2017 10:24 PM
Totally off topic...

Whats the difference between LARS and LARS-J.
This is the first time I noticed you were different people.
You both seem very knowledgeable.
 

Who is LARS ???

I am Lar (short for Larry) I'm a mod. And not that knowledgable. I just act like I am, and get shot down a lot.
Lars-J is some other guy, not a mod, but smarter than me.  However, I have more LEGO elements and sets than he does. so there's that. But he has a cool avatar...  (Benny is cool... but the shuttle sets are cooler)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 04/02/2017 10:26 PM
Totally off topic...

Whats the difference between LARS and LARS-J.
This is the first time I noticed you were different people.
You both seem very knowledgeable.

He's LAR (not Lars). :) Not the same person. He is a mod, I am not. I'm an armchair opiniator shouting at windmills.  ;)
But both are seemingly very into LEGOs.

Edit: and why wouldn't you be...LEGOs are awesome!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/02/2017 11:20 PM
Totally off topic...

Whats the difference between LARS and LARS-J.
This is the first time I noticed you were different people.
You both seem very knowledgeable.

He's LAR (not Lars). :) Not the same person. He is a mod, I am not. I'm an armchair opiniator shouting at windmills.  ;)
But both are seemingly very into LEGOs.

Edit: and why wouldn't you be...LEGOs are awesome!
What are LEGOs? never heard of those things.

I, however think that LEGO elements are nifty, and LEGO sets are cool, and the LEGO company is pretty awesome. So's the owner.

Here's a pic of him, with MY model sitting on his desk after he built it from a kit I designed.

http://www.miltontrainworks.com/MTW/news/testimonial.php

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 04/02/2017 11:30 PM
Totally off topic...

Whats the difference between LARS and LARS-J.
This is the first time I noticed you were different people.
You both seem very knowledgeable.

He's LAR (not Lars). :) Not the same person. He is a mod, I am not. I'm an armchair opiniator shouting at windmills.  ;)
But both are seemingly very into LEGOs.

Edit: and why wouldn't you be...LEGOs are awesome!
What are LEGOs? never heard of those things.

I, however think that LEGO elements are nifty, and LEGO sets are cool, and the LEGO company is pretty awesome. So's the owner.

Here's a pic of him, with MY model sitting on his desk after he built it from a kit I designed.

http://www.miltontrainworks.com/MTW/news/testimonial.php
Ok. I get that LEGO is all caps and that is the proper way to type the name. Is it singular always like fish and deer? Must you always refer a to piece of LEGO as a brick or element, not just a LEGO. If one piece can be called a LEGO, then would more than one be LEGOs with a small s because it isn't part of the name itself? It seems like they have developed their own grammar rules. If I had two Porsche cars (don't I wish) I would when referring to both of them say, Porsches. Same for Fords, Airbuses (now referring to planes of course).

Edit: clarity
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Seamus on 04/02/2017 11:40 PM
Not to be confused with the verb LEGGO, as in LEGGO my EGGO
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 04/02/2017 11:43 PM
Ok. I get that LEGO is all caps and that is the proper way to type the name. Is it singular always like fish and deer?
No, LEGO is adjective (in English language).
No way. It is a brand name and therefore a noun. While by no means the authoritative source of information in the universe, dictionary.com agrees with me on both points.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/lego (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/lego)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/02/2017 11:49 PM
Ok. I get that LEGO is all caps and that is the proper way to type the name. Is it singular always like fish and deer?
No, LEGO is adjective (in English language).
No way. It is a brand name and therefore a noun. While by no means the authoritative source of information in the universe, dictionary.com agrees with me on both points.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/lego (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/lego)

Nope. All brand names are adjectives. Ford cars. Xerox copiers. Kleenex brand tissues. Dictionary.com is descriptivist and therefore wrong. :)

See also https://www.lego.com/en-us/legal/legal-notice/fair-play especially

Quote
Proper Use of the LEGO Trademark on a Web Site
If the LEGO trademark is used at all, it should always be used as an adjective, not as a noun. For example, say "MODELS BUILT OF LEGO BRICKS". Never say "MODELS BUILT OF LEGOs".Also, the trademark should appear in the same typeface as the surrounding text and should not be isolated or set apart from the surrounding text. In other words, the trademarks should not be emphasized or highlighted. Finally, the LEGO trademark should always appear with a ® symbol each time it is used.

And we're not going to have this argument here. I'm pretty easy going in general, but this is a hot button topic for me, a pet peeve if you will. A petty point not to cross the Powers that Be.    I actually have been known to edit people's posts if they get stubborn about it. Don't make me misuse my mod powers that way... Because I will.

Just drop it, you can't win.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 04/03/2017 12:07 AM
Ok. I get that LEGO is all caps and that is the proper way to type the name. Is it singular always like fish and deer?
No, LEGO is adjective (in English language).
No way. It is a brand name and therefore a noun. While by no means the authoritative source of information in the universe, dictionary.com agrees with me on both points.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/lego (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/lego)

Nope. All brand names are adjectives. Ford cars. Xerox copiers. Kleenex brand tissues. Dictionary.com is descriptivist and therefore wrong. :)

See also https://www.lego.com/en-us/legal/legal-notice/fair-play especially

Quote
Proper Use of the LEGO Trademark on a Web Site
If the LEGO trademark is used at all, it should always be used as an adjective, not as a noun. For example, say "MODELS BUILT OF LEGO BRICKS". Never say "MODELS BUILT OF LEGOs".Also, the trademark should appear in the same typeface as the surrounding text and should not be isolated or set apart from the surrounding text. In other words, the trademarks should not be emphasized or highlighted. Finally, the LEGO trademark should always appear with a symbol each time it is used.

And we're not going to have this argument here. I'm pretty easy going in general, but this is a hot button topic for me, a pet peeve if you will. A petty point not to cross the Powers that Be.    I actually have been known to edit people's posts if they get stubborn about it. Don't make me misuse my mod powers that way... Because I will.

Just drop it, you can't win.
I wasn't trying to start a war nor win anything nor cross anyone. My initial query was one of genuine interest. You are clearly very passionate and particular about this topic. I was attempting to understand. My apologies if I offended anyone or ruffled any feathers. It was not my intent. Thanks for the information. Consider it dropped.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/03/2017 12:31 AM
Just drop it, you can't win.
I wasn't trying to start a war nor win anything nor cross anyone. My initial query was one of genuine interest. You are clearly very passionate and particular about this topic. I was attempting to understand. My apologies if I offended anyone or ruffled any feathers. It was not my intent. Thanks for the information. Consider it dropped.

No worries, it's actually kind of a running joke, the regulars[1] here say "legos" because they like to spin me up. I think it's more amusing than anything else. Ms. Soccer Mom is going to call them "legos" for the rest of her life..... and there isn't anything I can do about it. :)

1 - some of them. You know who you are. So do I.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lars-J on 04/03/2017 12:50 AM
Totally off topic...

Whats the difference between LARS and LARS-J.
This is the first time I noticed you were different people.
You both seem very knowledgeable.
 

Who is LARS ???

I am Lar (short for Larry) I'm a mod. And not that knowledgable. I just act like I am, and get shot down a lot.
Lars-J is some other guy, not a mod, but smarter than me.  However, I have more LEGO elements and sets than he does. so there's that. But he has a cool avatar...  (Benny is cool... but the shuttle sets are cooler)

Hey... I've got a lot of LEGO sets too you know! Sadly my mom got rid of all my old ones - including the classic LEGO space sets (my fav which I got in ... '82?, see image) - when I moved out. For a while I gave a lot of sets to my kids. Although my son now has lost interest in them. But hopefully he'll rediscover the fun in the future like I did.  :)

And no, I'm not smart. My uppity kids tell me so!  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 04/03/2017 12:59 AM
So, there is no LARS only LAR elements?  ???
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Geron on 04/03/2017 01:15 AM
Oh man I come here to read about SpaceX and I got all excited there were new posts and then I find pages of nonsense about trademarks being adjectives. I'm so disappointed in everyone involved.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 04/03/2017 07:15 AM
Party's at that awkward winding-down stage.  Time to find another party!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 04/03/2017 02:07 PM
Party's at that awkward winding-down stage.  Time to find another party!
It's all the talk about moderator elements that is killing the buzz....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mvpel on 04/03/2017 02:09 PM
Shouldn't it be "LEGO® elements?"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 04/03/2017 02:18 PM
From the watch party of the recovery thread waiting on the return of the fairing...
Pictures of the recovered fairing being returned to port now on the ASDS support ship activities thread:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=38111.0 (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=38111.0)

Fairing is under a large tarpaulin but there are some glimpes around the edges.
The first of those photos shows what looks like some obvious tearing around the edges of what would be be fairing half separation plane. Not sure if that's repairable type damage in the context of reuse someday or not. Still an impressive feat to recover something so large essential intact.

remember, bouncy castles... no fairings should touch salt water... etc. This is a pathfinder, not the real deal. AFRS[1] comes next...

If this is tearing it could either be due to impact, wave action, or water intrusion into the honeycomb, or even damage trying to lift a large awkward item onto the aft deck... Bouncy castle obviates all that (but needs an AFRS[1]  unless they've REALLY increased precision of parafoil steering)

1 - Automated Fairing Recovery Ship, you heard it from me first :) but it's a logical acronym choice.

Introducing The Bouncy Castle, Automated Fairing Recovery (Air) Ship...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Pete on 04/03/2017 02:54 PM
Could we just LEGO these silly argument,
Rather LEGO to the nearest pub and down a pint or two for the E.S.S. Habit.
(Elon Space Ship, named for its habit of flying off just to return to the nest)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 04/03/2017 03:35 PM
Ooof bad puns, I'm going to have to block that out of my memory
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 04/03/2017 03:50 PM
So Elon has been quoted as saying the FH demo cargo will possibly be silly. I have read proposals in the threads for sending a Bus, a large inflatable pig (250 meter), a model S Tesla, a not so silly Dragon capsule around the moon, and a large amount of cheese.

This seems ripe for a discussion, but since it's silly, maybe should be confined to the party thread.   if the choices were fewer, a survey might make sense. But with an open ended question, maybe propose your best (worst) idea and people can vote with Likes.

I vote for sending the Bus with the cowboy in the driver's seat.

OH and you can like more than one option since this isn't a real vote...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mikelepage on 04/03/2017 04:04 PM
Going with the theme of inflatable farm animals, I believe sending a large inflatable cow around the moon would serve many purposes, all noble.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/03/2017 05:27 PM
Remember that voting with likes requires patience, there is a 120 second delay between likes (we throttled this on purpose for good and valid reasons and my pleading to lift the throttle has fell on deaf ears :) ).

My suggestion for a silly thing? An impactor that has four subimpactors, that form the SpaceX logo with carbon black as they shoot out in 4 different directions... (to get the swoosh right, one of them has to have some steering jets...)  Visible via telescope.

DD Harriman would be proud.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delos_D._Harriman
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/03/2017 06:00 PM
from SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 4

I don't see a copyright problem.  There is no chance that consumers will mistake a 42-engine heavy lift launch vehicle for an amphibious megalizard which shoots radioactive rays from it's mouth.

Dude clearly doesn't work in customer service...
 
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 04/03/2017 07:04 PM
Going with the theme of inflatable farm animals, I believe sending a large inflatable cow around the moon would serve many purposes, all noble.

A cow would be noble at all ... just don't forget the aerobraking (or should that be aero-baking?) thing on the way back.  ;)

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JoeAlvord on 04/03/2017 07:56 PM
I vote for the school bus.  The cowboy could wear a frizzly wig instead of the cowboy hat.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rei on 04/03/2017 09:35 PM
Going with the theme of inflatable farm animals, I believe sending a large inflatable cow around the moon would serve many purposes, all noble.

A cow would be noble at all ... just don't forget the aerobraking (or should that be aero-baking?) thing on the way back.  ;)

Build the inflatable cow out of thin PBO or PIBO and make it large enough, and it may well actually survive entry  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: atsf90east on 04/03/2017 09:57 PM
Going with the theme of inflatable farm animals, I believe sending a large inflatable cow around the moon would serve many purposes, all noble.

A cow would be noble at all ... just don't forget the aerobraking (or should that be aero-baking?) thing on the way back.  ;)



Noble, or No Bull? :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/03/2017 10:09 PM
If we assume a spherical cow[1], then we don't have the proper lifting body shape so we're looking at no chance for aerobraking. However if it's sufficiently "fluffy"[2] there may be a way to survive reentry anyway.


1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_cow
2 - who names their cows Fluffy anyway, that's a cat's name. But cats don't have reentry problems[3]
3 - as long as you strap buttered toast, buttered side up, to their back
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: groknull on 04/03/2017 10:18 PM
I'm still hoping for the Bob's Big Boy® statue.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 04/03/2017 10:27 PM
Fluffy cows can approach sphericality, when viewed from a certain direction. They also come with built in deflation devices. I'll leave it to the reader to attach buttered cats.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 04/03/2017 10:44 PM
Going with the theme of inflatable farm animals, I believe sending a large inflatable cow around the moon would serve many purposes, all noble.

A cow would be noble at all ... just don't forget the aerobraking (or should that be aero-baking?) thing on the way back.  ;)



Noble, or No Bull? :)

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 04/04/2017 03:49 AM
Quote
Fluffy cows can approach sphericality, when viewed from a certain direction. They also come with built in deflation devices. I'll leave it to the reader to attach buttered cats.

Apparently Tribbles will mate with anything.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 04/04/2017 04:09 AM
Perhaps SpaceX will experiment with a new ablative tps? An upgrade from spam perhaps?

https://what-if.xkcd.com/28/
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 04/04/2017 11:07 AM
Sure that's TPS and not tips? We are talking steak after all...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 04/04/2017 02:09 PM
If you read this thread backwards from the new posts after being away around 12 hours it is REALLY CONFUSING!..  Buttered Cats? Spherical COWS!  WHAT IS GOING ON???
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 04/04/2017 02:18 PM
.gnisufnoc netfo si sdrawkcab gnidaeR
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: hamerad on 04/04/2017 02:30 PM
ʇᴉ ɹoɟ pǝɹᴉʍ sᴉ uᴉɐɹq ɹnoʎ ssǝlu∩
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Shanuson on 04/04/2017 02:32 PM
.gnisufnoc netfo si sdrawkcab gnidaeR

!hgouht gniyonna si sdrawkcab gnitirw , hcum os ton esitcarp htiW
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CorvusCorax on 04/04/2017 02:40 PM
You know that feeling, when you come to a party a few hours late and everyone is hanging around in the chillout zone with dilated eyes, drooling and making weird confusing noises or words that make no sense, while there's this odd smell in the air?

this thread, right, now ;)

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 04/04/2017 03:21 PM
.gnisufnoc netfo si sdrawkcab gnidaeR

);  ?"daed si luaP" ,naem uoy od tahW
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: groknull on 04/04/2017 03:54 PM
Another nomination for the FH demo silly payload:

    A bowl of petunias.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: leetdan on 04/04/2017 04:42 PM
The Party Thread is reversible, but time is not.

!kcab nruT
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 04/04/2017 06:03 PM
Another nomination for the FH demo silly payload:

    A bowl of petunias.

"oh no... not again"

What about the whale?       "I wonder if it will be my friend?"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mark_m on 04/04/2017 09:22 PM
Any determination on landing bingo yet? I'd like to submit this evidence.  ;)

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42544.msg1663489#msg1663489

That looks tantalizingly close to my M-22 bingo spot!  :D

BTW, just some incredible photos there.

Edit: Irrefutable evidence puts the F9 center just two squares diagonally further from the center. My closest result yet though!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CJ on 04/04/2017 11:00 PM
Any determination on landing bingo yet? I'd like to submit this evidence.  ;)

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42544.msg1663489#msg1663489

That looks tantalizingly close to my M-22 bingo spot!  :D

BTW, just some incredible photos there.

Edit: Irrefutable evidence puts the F9 center just two squares diagonally further from the center. My closest result yet though!

Hrmmm. I think I was closer and should win the bingo. I didn't pick a square, but was slightly more general; "somewhere within 10,000 miles of Florida, wet or dry touchdown, one or more pieces.". And, of course, the F9 did exactly that!  8)

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 04/05/2017 02:23 AM
Another nomination for the FH demo silly payload:

    A bowl of petunias.
"oh no... not again"

What about the whale?       "I wonder if it will be my friend?"
A heavy should easily lift a whale... Only a heritic would doubt SpaceX
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 04/05/2017 02:30 AM
ʇᴉ ɹoɟ pǝɹᴉʍ sᴉ uᴉɐɹq ɹnoʎ ssǝlu∩

lmao!  I found myself trying to read your forum name upside down and backwards..... I am close!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 04/05/2017 01:37 PM
The Party Thread is reversible, but time is not.

!kcab nruT

I am old enough to have played this record using an LP by manually controlling the spin of the record! 
The music is reversable, but time isn't.... go back... go back... go back...

things that people these days with CD and MP3s can't appreciate. 
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mark_m on 04/05/2017 02:51 PM
The Party Thread is reversible, but time is not.

!kcab nruT

I am old enough to have played this record using an LP by manually controlling the spin of the record! 
The music is reversable, but time isn't.... go back... go back... go back...

things that people these days with CD and MP3s can't appreciate.

Me too! But you needed a direct-drive turntable, don't try it with a belt-drive!

I saw them twice in concert, including what I believe was their last concert ever, opening for Rod Stewart in Stuttgart, Germany. (Surely this topic counts as space-related. Just check out the inside and outside album art on the open-fold double Out of the Blue cover, and they even had a song called, "Ticket to the Moon"!)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Flying Beaver on 04/05/2017 10:33 PM
Priceless video of F9 spotting in Springfield, Louisiana.

This isn't the hotdog your looking for...

http://www.facebook.com/SpellFamilySnoBalls/videos/1395966710470183/ (http://www.facebook.com/SpellFamilySnoBalls/videos/1395966710470183/)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 04/06/2017 02:24 AM
For those who can YouTube but not facebook, he also has it uploaded there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuy-IrO524E

So, what I want to know is what on earth were they doing in *Springfield*?!?  I've driven through there, and I get nervous pulling my canoe trailers sometime.  For reference, here's a Google Maps link to the very spot in the video:  https://goo.gl/maps/v7QeYJ3Q8pN2
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 04/06/2017 02:42 AM
Only problem would be that it wouldn't drive anywhere because Teslas are not build to operate in vacuum/near vacuum. And you don't want to explain THAT to the public, would you? ;)
I was not thinking about actually LANDING it somewhere (which would be a lot more complicated). But a flyby alone would be pretty cool. No?
I feel like truly "silly payload" discussion belongs in the party thread.  You know, things that obviously aren't going to happen.  So I'm relocating my comment from the FH demo thread:

Or an impactor?  I've long been in the Tesla model S camp for silly payloads.  Prove once and for all that electric cars can get better mileage than any internal combustion engined car in the solar system.  But, for all time silliness, crash a Tesla Model S into the moon as an impactor?  Definitely should have taken a left at Albuquerque.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 04/06/2017 02:50 AM
I've lost track of the launches - which is the next one from KSC?! Either ULA or SpaceX?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: launchwatcher on 04/06/2017 04:10 AM
For those who can YouTube but not facebook, he also has it uploaded there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuy-IrO524E

So, what I want to know is what on earth were they doing in *Springfield*?!?  I've driven through there, and I get nervous pulling my canoe trailers sometime.  For reference, here's a Google Maps link to the very spot in the video:  https://goo.gl/maps/v7QeYJ3Q8pN2
They're missing a cross-marketing opportunity.   Put two hemispherical caps on each end of the stage to better protect the engines and interstage, switch to hotdog-brown-colored plastic to wrap the stage, and sell advertising as a cross-country rolling billboard to the highest bidder!  They can one-up the Oscar Meyer Wienermobile!   
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jarnis on 04/06/2017 05:23 AM
I've lost track of the launches - which is the next one from KSC?! Either ULA or SpaceX?

SpaceX 16th  (NROL-76, booster already at cape)
ULA 18th  (Cygnus to ISS)

all obviously NET, dates may change until the rocket is off the pad.

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: landlubber on 04/06/2017 09:02 AM
Nomination for FH demo "silly" payload. A surfboard to be released into LEO and then re-enter. In honour of John Carpenter's greatest film.


Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachS09 on 04/06/2017 02:06 PM
I've never heard of the director John Carpenter; what film is this screenshot depicting?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 04/06/2017 02:12 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Star_(film)

You young people of today!! ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carpenter
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 04/06/2017 03:17 PM
I still think Escape from NY was his best work, though how can you top surfing while escaping from LA?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mark_m on 04/06/2017 04:02 PM
Big Trouble in Little China. Just sayin'.  8)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 04/06/2017 04:18 PM
I still think Escape from NY was his best work, though how can you top surfing while escaping from LA?

Surfing while escaping the vaporized Dark Star.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 04/06/2017 05:18 PM
Surfing while escaping the vaporized Dark Star.
That's just a publicity stunt for investors and spectators -Andrei Ionin

;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/06/2017 05:20 PM
we're not at all off topic. not us. no.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 04/06/2017 05:28 PM
I tied it back to spaceX.... Can I help it if Elon likes to show boat his surfing skills for investors?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 04/06/2017 07:39 PM
Nomination for FH demo "silly" payload. A surfboard to be released into LEO and then re-enter. In honour of John Carpenter's greatest film.

I was a projectionist in college and Dark Star and Silent running were regularly shown films (at least 2 times per year!).

a cult classic!  "Benson Arizona, the stars are in the Sky..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTa2vXL7FI8


 bomb number twenty...  is armed and won't release!

teach it phenomenology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luaRtGn2tsI
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Kansan52 on 04/06/2017 08:38 PM
Got the DVD!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachS09 on 04/06/2017 09:05 PM
You're spoiling the movie if you show us the ending of "Dark Star".
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 04/06/2017 09:09 PM
You're spoiling the movie if you show us the ending of "Dark Star".

LOL ... ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Aerospace Dilettante on 04/06/2017 09:41 PM
Mike Wagner just tweeted: SES 10 Ready for move. SpaceX crew gets faster, more efficient with each  (in this case used) booster

Has anybody made note of recovery times (delegging, horizontalizing) for each returned booster?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: stcks on 04/06/2017 10:05 PM
Mike Wagner just tweeted: SES 10 Ready for move. SpaceX crew gets faster, more efficient with each  (in this case used) booster

Has anybody made note of recovery times (delegging, horizontalizing) for each returned booster?

Funny you should ask. Reddit user theinternetftw put this wiki together today.
https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/wiki/recovery_timing
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 04/07/2017 02:07 AM
I've lost track of the launches - which is the next one from KSC?! Either ULA or SpaceX?

SpaceX 16th  (NROL-76, booster already at cape)
ULA 18th  (Cygnus to ISS)

all obviously NET, dates may change until the rocket is off the pad.
These are pedant fora.  ULA doesn't launch from KSC
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 04/07/2017 02:11 AM
Well... Granted I meant the Cape Canaveral launch range, which KSC is very nearby to.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 04/07/2017 02:09 PM
You get excited when you hear the NROL-76 static fire will be on your birthday!!!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: landlubber on 04/07/2017 09:29 PM
You're spoiling the movie if you show us the ending of "Dark Star".

If you are going to watch one John Carpenter film, I suggest They Live! Still relevant today although most certainly not on topic.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 04/08/2017 04:53 AM
Quote
If you are going to watch one John Carpenter film, I suggest They Live! Still relevant today although most certainly not on topic.

Wait..... this thread has a topic?  :o
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 04/09/2017 12:46 AM
You're spoiling the movie if you show us the ending of "Dark Star".

If you are going to watch one John Carpenter film, I suggest They Live! Still relevant today although most certainly not on topic.
Be sure to stock up on bubble gum first.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 04/09/2017 01:21 AM
I think it's important to try to stay close to the topic. You get to hear a much better whooshing noise as everybodys points fly right past it.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/09/2017 01:23 AM
This bunch are masters of that.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: FutureSpaceTourist on 04/09/2017 06:45 AM
The booster from Iridium flight 1 might top them all - launch from both coasts.

A Dickensian tale of an itinerant rocket booster, forced to travel where the work takes it. It has to brave inhuman working conditions, blackened and exhausted after each mission. Paired with a different child 2nd stage each time, who is cruelly sacrificed to the unforgiving needs of their master. It dreams of one day being put out to pasture when it's served its usefulness, but too many others of its kind are humiliatingly shorn of their appendages to be consumed in a final suicide mission.

Historic indeed  :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Barrie on 04/09/2017 07:34 AM
You're spoiling the movie if you show us the ending of "Dark Star".

If you are going to watch one John Carpenter film, I suggest They Live! Still relevant today although most certainly not on topic.

Yes, though I am also partial to Ghosts of Mars.  It had reavers before Firefly.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Barrie on 04/09/2017 07:38 AM
The booster from Iridium flight 1 might top them all - launch from both coasts.

A Dickensian tale of an itinerant rocket booster, forced to travel where the work takes it. It has to brave inhuman working conditions, blackened and exhausted after each mission. Paired with a different child 2nd stage each time, who is cruelly sacrificed to the unforgiving needs of their master. It dreams of one day being put out to pasture when it's served its usefulness, but too many others of its kind are humiliatingly shorn of their appendages to be consumed in a final suicide mission.

Historic indeed  :)

A Tale of Two (launch) Sites
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 04/09/2017 09:08 AM
"It was the best of pads and it was the worst of pads..."
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Helodriver on 04/09/2017 01:24 PM
With Falcon Heavy now capable of carrying over 68 metric tons to LEO, that puts an engineless Space Shuttle orbiter within the payload range.

I think we found the demo payload.  8)   

There is no possible reason this should not work.  It fits Elon's philosophy, now even the payload is reusable ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Pete on 04/09/2017 01:54 PM
There is no possible reason this should not work. 

The vibrations caused by mass hysterical laughter/vomiting will upset the balance of that launch stack.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachS09 on 04/09/2017 02:01 PM
Really? Trained astronauts aboard the shuttle have never laughed so hard or threw up during each ascent.

They remained calm and collected because they did the ground simulators for two years; that's the duration of training for each mission.

By the way, I would support an engine-less Space Shuttle Orbiter atop the Falcon Heavy as well. If they were not refurbished as museum exhibits yet.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 04/09/2017 06:08 PM
Launching a Shuttle orbiter on top of a Falcon Heavy would be like balancing a cooked noodle on your fingertip.  Just how tall would that be anyway?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachS09 on 04/09/2017 07:33 PM
94.24 meters. The typical payload fairing for the Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy is 13.1 meters tall, and you add that to the 57-meter tall rocket to get 70.1 meters.

Without the fairing, placing a 37.24-meter tall Space Shuttle Orbiter atop the second stage results in a height of 94.24 meters.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: John Alan on 04/09/2017 09:36 PM
You all realize that without the 3 SSME's for ballast... the damn thing won't glide worth a chit...  ???  ::)

Gonna have to strip some weight out of the nose to make that weight and balance work...  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CharlieWildman on 04/09/2017 10:06 PM
Sadly true.  The Shuttle will not glide well without its ballast.  Buran on the other hand has about third less ballast and Elon could pick one up for less than cheap!  :o
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jarnis on 04/10/2017 09:21 AM
You all realize that without the 3 SSME's for ballast... the damn thing won't glide worth a chit...  ???  ::)

Gonna have to strip some weight out of the nose to make that weight and balance work...  ;)

If removing the ballast isn't enough, just redo all the avionics with hardware made in this century and you'll strip tons of weight :)

(complex? expensive? minor details)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Helodriver on 04/10/2017 01:22 PM
You all realize that without the 3 SSME's for ballast... the damn thing won't glide worth a chit...  ???  ::)

Gonna have to strip some weight out of the nose to make that weight and balance work...  ;)

Keep S2 attached and protected with an extended orbiter body flap.  Orbiter and stage recovered together, CG and S2 resusability problems solved!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 04/10/2017 04:40 PM
Wouldn't this configuration place the center of drag way up front?  Not to be a party pooper in a party thread.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 04/10/2017 04:55 PM
Shuttle as payload..
A Milk up nose moment.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 04/10/2017 06:25 PM
I still think the X-37 solution is the best option. Place the whole shuttle inside a payload fairing and be done with it. Using that approach, it may even come in under budget.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Craftyatom on 04/10/2017 07:59 PM
I still think the X-37 solution is the best option. Place the whole shuttle inside a payload fairing and be done with it. Using that approach, it may even come in under budget.

While some might scoff at the idea, given that the space shuttle is clearly too large to fit inside a standard fairing, I believe that we can indeed fit one of the retired orbiters inside a standard Falcon 9 payload fairing.

The Falcon 9 payload fairing has a volume of 145 m^3 (111.3 m^3 in the cylindrical segment and 33.7 m^3 in the truncated cone segment, based on the F9 User's Guide (http://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/falcon_9_users_guide_rev_2.0.pdf)).  The shuttle, without engines, weighed about 68700kg.  This gives us a minimum payload density of 473 kg/m^3 - far below aluminum (2700 or so), which made up the majority of the shuttle's structure.  The TPS materials, with an average density below 200 kg/m^3, do take up a fair bit of room (almost 50 cubic meters), but they should still fit - besides, since it's often said that silica tiles were "10% silica, 90% air" by volume, they could in theory be pressed down to a density 10x higher, which is well above our threshold.

So, if a retired orbiter were crushed and melted down, it could indeed fit into a standard Falcon 9 fairing.  Now all that's left to do is contact the KSC Visitor Center, the Udvar-Hazy Center, and the California Science Center to see who's game.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Helodriver on 04/10/2017 10:05 PM
Go for auto sequence start!

On the pad, with no forced perspective for accurate scale.

Oh yeah, this will work. Just need Hoot Gibson to manually fly it up hill. A little touchy in pitch. ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Kansan52 on 04/10/2017 10:39 PM
If removing the ballast isn't enough, just redo all the avionics with hardware made in this century and you'll strip tons of weight :)

(complex? expensive? minor details)

Just to keep in the flow, all the orbiters has glass cockpits as upgrades. May not be as much weight saved with that change.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Skylab on 04/10/2017 11:55 PM
Shuttle without engines, reusable boosters. Wouldn't this turn into Buran? ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Shanuson on 04/11/2017 06:56 AM
Shuttle without engines, reusable boosters. Wouldn't this turn into Buran? ;)
Even more so because it too will never fly into space :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Aeroman on 04/11/2017 07:24 AM
What about a proposed X37C, a little larger than the X37B but smaller than the shuttle.  Or the Dreamchaser?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: baldusi on 04/11/2017 04:06 PM
The ideal vehicle would have been the HL42, a 42% lineal scaling of the HL20, the base of the DreamChaser. It would mass something like 28tonnes fully loaded. Now, an HL50 (a 50% lineal scaling of the Dream Chaser), should mass about 50 tonnes when fully loaded and offer more volume than the Shuttle.
Personally, and with perfect hindsight, NASA should have done HL20 on Titan IV with reusable segmented boosters to learn the necessary lessons about reusability before going full throttle on the Shuttle program. But that's just me that like incremental, cheap and simple steps rather than Manhattan projects.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Shanuson on 04/11/2017 04:49 PM
AS for a silly thing to launch: How about the submersible James Bond car Musk bought a while back? As it is a submersible, it is already airtight, only needs a heat shield and can even drive back to shore after splashdown :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rei on 04/11/2017 04:59 PM
Okay, I've got one for "silly things to launch"... or actually, more like "trolling things to launch":

.... A full-scale mockup of the New Shepard.  Nothing that actually flies, just something that looks suspiciously similar.  ;)

It's 20,5 tonnes, easily within the FH's payload range. FH could launch it to GTO   ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 04/11/2017 05:22 PM
Okay, I've got one for "silly things to launch"... or actually, more like "trolling things to launch":

.... A full-scale mockup of the New Shepard.  Nothing that actually flies, just something that looks suspiciously similar.  ;)

It's 20,5 tonnes, easily within the FH's payload range. FH could launch it to GTO   ;)
I actually had this exact same thought just a little bit ago. Great minds...

It would be pretty funny to put another LV's sub-orbital launcher into orbit.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 04/11/2017 05:36 PM
AS for a silly thing to launch: How about the submersible James Bond car Musk bought a while back? As it is a submersible, it is already airtight, only needs a heat shield and can even drive back to shore after splashdown :D

No, this car is needed for rapid crew access to ASDS - drive off, wait for landing, drive back on.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Semmel on 04/12/2017 01:21 PM
How about a giant unfoldable mirror that makes a great bright spot on the sky once in a while.. now that SpaceX works on retiring the iridium fleet that is responsible for the famous iridium flares. But I might also just confuse it with some stuff the russians already thought about.. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/02/russian-crowdfunded-reflector-satellite-aims-to-be-brightest-star-in-the-sky/
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CharlieWildman on 04/12/2017 07:42 PM
How about 60 nano sats.  Each with a battery, solar cells and a bunch of super bright LEDs.  Station keeping would take some development.  But for SpaceX, I'm sure a trivial problem.  Future advertising possibilities could fund ITS! :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Pete on 04/12/2017 08:50 PM
You want a nice payload for the Falcon 9 Heavy test?

Ok, try this for size:


3 000 000 ping-pong balls, each lightly doped with traces of elements that will radiate different colors when burning in reentry.

Pingpong balls are very light, cheap, easy to pack, of a suitable mass to make a great reentry style meteor streak, and have a low enough mass/surface area ratio that they will deorbit rapidly from anywhere even near LEO.   Drop them off at about 150km, and get a hemisphere full of colorful streaks with no danger to any space assets or to the ground.

Total volume is about 2/3 of the fairing space, total mass is a mere 8.1 tons, not counting storage mechanism.

It should make for quite the spectacle?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JazzFan on 04/12/2017 10:36 PM
How about 60 nano sats.  Each with a battery, solar cells and a bunch of super bright LEDs.  Station keeping would take some development.  But for SpaceX, I'm sure a trivial problem.  Future advertising possibilities could fund ITS! :)

Well it worked during this year's Super Bowl halftime show.  Maybe Elon just leave a swarm of them in space and charge advertising dollars.  Now we can have company logos in space for all companies.  Who needs stinking billboards anymore.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 04/13/2017 12:07 AM
Quote
How about 60 nano sats.  Each with a battery, solar cells and a bunch of super bright LEDs.  Station keeping would take some development.  But for SpaceX, I'm sure a trivial problem.  Future advertising possibilities could fund ITS!

SpaceX to Arcturus?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Fan Boi on 04/13/2017 12:44 PM
I like the idea of a really large aluminized balloon that would orbit for maybe a month or two. It would be very bright and would de-orbit gracefully. How large could it be? Maybe a few hundred feet across? It could be filled with carbon dioxide or nitrogen from a small-ish bottle since it wouldn't take much pressure to inflate.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Shanuson on 04/13/2017 02:20 PM
They could also send some of these Google Lunar XPrice probes/landers up with it.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 04/13/2017 02:25 PM
I like the idea of a really large aluminized balloon that would orbit for maybe a month or two. It would be very bright and would de-orbit gracefully. How large could it be? Maybe a few hundred feet across? It could be filled with carbon dioxide or nitrogen from a small-ish bottle since it wouldn't take much pressure to inflate.
Great , global warming balloons! That would be the headline if you filled it with CO2 (regardless of the tiny amount used here).
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Skylab on 04/13/2017 03:51 PM
I like the idea of a really large aluminized balloon that would orbit for maybe a month or two. It would be very bright and would de-orbit gracefully. How large could it be? Maybe a few hundred feet across?
[snip]
Been there, done that! ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: guckyfan on 04/13/2017 04:00 PM
Is that Echo? The satellite used for the very first transatlantic TV transmissions? Just by blowing as much power at it as possible and receive the reflections for a brief transmission as long as it could be seen from both coasts? I watched that, though I forgot what they transmitted. It was something live.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Fan Boi on 04/13/2017 05:42 PM
I like the idea of a really large aluminized balloon that would orbit for maybe a month or two. It would be very bright and would de-orbit gracefully. How large could it be? Maybe a few hundred feet across? It could be filled with carbon dioxide or nitrogen from a small-ish bottle since it wouldn't take much pressure to inflate.

And if it happened to be in orbit during the month of October and they used a pink-hued aluminum coating, they would get crazy kudos from the Breast Cancer Awareness supporters. Who wouldn't like to see a giant pink satellite orbiting for a month or two?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CharlieWildman on 04/13/2017 10:57 PM
Musk did say something silly... I'm thinking half mile in size should be nicely visible.
Gotta get back to work.  Having way too much fun on this stuff.  ;D



Edit: Sentence that could be taken extremely the wrong way deleted.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris_Pi on 04/14/2017 12:09 AM
This would go well with the volcano lair...

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ElGuapoGuano1 on 04/14/2017 02:12 PM
I am hugely in favor of the Big Boy deployment!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Kansan52 on 04/14/2017 04:14 PM
A giant pyramid of cheese wheels.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Saabstory88 on 04/14/2017 06:12 PM
Musk did say something silly... I'm thinking half mile in size should be nicely visible.
Gotta get back to work.  Having way too much fun on this stuff.  ;D



Edit: Sentence that could be taken extremely the wrong way deleted.

I'm not even joking, we have a 40' one in our warehouse if Musk wants it...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/16/2017 07:17 PM
You can see that in it "kneeled" position, the frame is down on the deck and the tracks are more proud.

Matthew

Well of course they're proud, they know they're going to be making history soon

Musk did say something silly... I'm thinking half mile in size should be nicely visible.
Gotta get back to work.  Having way too much fun on this stuff.  ;D



Edit: Sentence that could be taken extremely the wrong way deleted.

I'm not even joking, we have a 40' one in our warehouse if Musk wants it...

There HAS to be a story there. Why? Don't duck answering our questions....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 04/16/2017 07:51 PM
There HAS to be a story there. Why? Don't duck answering our questions....

Obscure meta-Babylon 5 reference:  It was Sinclair's.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Bubbinski on 04/17/2017 01:29 AM
So Elon said a silly payload would go in the Falcon Heavy to orbit. Let me guess: an enormous banner with signatures of all SpaceX employees. Or a preserved Commodore 64. (for some reason the C64 came to mind first, I had one in my youth)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 04/17/2017 01:47 AM
Quote
There HAS to be a story there. Why? Don't duck answering our questions....

So, Elon Musk and a 40 ft tall rubber duck walk into a bar.......
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Dalhousie on 04/17/2017 05:58 AM
Dial the snark back please.

Sometimes snark is the only appropriate response.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/33/8b/2c/338b2cb01c2cdc321a3d8900634f2241.jpg
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: as58 on 04/17/2017 07:28 AM
Dial the snark back please.

Sometimes snark is the only appropriate response.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/33/8b/2c/338b2cb01c2cdc321a3d8900634f2241.jpg

But you see, it's been dialled back. It doesn't have a nuclear warhead.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Humuku on 04/17/2017 01:24 PM
I came to the Cape to sit on a beach and watch a Falcon 9 launch and land, and all I go to see was this. ;-)

Actually I also saw a wrapped (used?) S1 sitting besides the road in front of hangar A0. What flight was this?

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: DatUser14 on 04/17/2017 01:26 PM
JCSAT-16
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/17/2017 02:19 PM
So Elon said a silly payload would go in the Falcon Heavy to orbit. Let me guess: an enormous banner with signatures of all SpaceX employees. Or a preserved Commodore 64. (for some reason the C64 came to mind first, I had one in my youth)

SpaceX is capitalist, they don't launch commies.... (although actually isn't that how Musk got his start, writing a game for a commie??)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 04/17/2017 05:07 PM
So Elon said a silly payload would go in the Falcon Heavy to orbit. Let me guess: an enormous banner with signatures of all SpaceX employees. Or a preserved Commodore 64. (for some reason the C64 came to mind first, I had one in my youth)

SpaceX is capitalist, they don't launch commies.... (although actually isn't that how Musk got his start, writing a game for a commie??)

"Behind The Commie Door", wasn't it?  Or was that a movie ... ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: scienceguy on 04/17/2017 05:20 PM
Quote
There HAS to be a story there. Why? Don't duck answering our questions....

So, Elon Musk and a 40 ft tall rubber duck walk into a bar.......

The bartender says, "We don't allow people in here that can touch outer space!"

Elon Musk says, "Don't worry, I'm using him as a landing platform!"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 04/17/2017 07:10 PM
You can see that in it "kneeled" position, the frame is down on the deck and the tracks are more proud.

Matthew

Well of course they're proud, they know they're going to be making history soon

Musk did say something silly... I'm thinking half mile in size should be nicely visible.
Gotta get back to work.  Having way too much fun on this stuff.  ;D



Edit: Sentence that could be taken extremely the wrong way deleted.

I'm not even joking, we have a 40' one in our warehouse if Musk wants it...

There HAS to be a story there. Why? Don't duck answering our questions....


 Are they currently manufacturing a sister copy followed of course in fast order by...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/17/2017 07:20 PM
Those are boosters on the side I think?

Ducks? sure.
Geese? sure.
Just no black swans please, we have had AMOS enough of those.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 04/17/2017 10:00 PM
From the Red Dragon discussion referred above.

Dial the snark back please.
.....

1 - Protip: Don't argue with moderators. Even if you're sure you're right. Even if you're sure you're being really funny. It's not usually a good idea. At all.


"dialing back the snark" made me think of  "Jump the Shark".  I had no clue what the expression meant, so I researched it.

""Jumping the shark" is attempting to draw attention to or create publicity for something that is perceived as not warranting the attention, especially something that is believed to be past its peak in quality or relevance. The idiom "jumping the shark" is almost always used in a pejorative sense."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark

This expression came into existence when the character Fonzie on the show Happy Days "Jumped the Shark" while water skiing.  Apparently after the show was on the air for a really LONNNNNNG time. (ehhhhhhYYYYYYYYY) 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4ZGKI8vpcg

With that brief history lesson complete, the question for us all... Is the party thread itself an example of Jumping the Snark?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/18/2017 03:24 AM
from https://xkcd.com/1825/

(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/7_eleven.png)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rpapo on 04/18/2017 04:57 PM
Okay you sluggards.  Launch is over.  Back to work!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: John Alan on 04/18/2017 07:50 PM
Speaking of FH demo payloads...  ???

12ft diameter concrete cylinder with S1 grid fins and avionics at top...
Size it weight wise to whatever it can do...
Enclosed in the standard payload fairing...

Launch into orbit... leave S2 attached to payload... make it permanent in fact...

Flip stack over and do a deorbit burn with Mvac...
Then do a reentry burn, as it hits the atmosphere... with Mvac...  :o
IF it makes it transonic in one piece... call it job done...  8)

Oh...  did I mention the landing zone target is some guys palace in North Korea....  ;D
The grid fins are to make sure the MOAR hits the landing zone...  ;)

On edit... it will not work... too top heavy I think...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CharlieWildman on 04/19/2017 04:06 AM
So Elon said a silly payload would go in the Falcon Heavy to orbit. Let me guess: an enormous banner with signatures of all SpaceX employees. Or a preserved Commodore 64. (for some reason the C64 came to mind first, I had one in my youth)

I had a Vic 20 AND a tape drive.  If I could have launched them into space I would have!  Right this moment I've got a balky dishwasher Musk could have.  It would enjoy a ride uphill! :P
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 04/19/2017 02:35 PM
I have realized the ultimate silly thing to send to space.. How about a 45 foot long sculpture of a large hollow horse with Wheels?

Inside, they can place the cowboy in a Dragon 2 space suit and some cheese, and/or a whole lot of very light toys that disperse when the "vehicle" reenters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_Horse 
  and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi%C3%B1ata


Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: guyw on 04/19/2017 11:55 PM
Or maybe a large wooden badger.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CharlieWildman on 04/20/2017 02:49 AM
​Back to the duck for a moment... It would of course have to be reusable to keep the cost down.  Here is the re-entry analysis and image of the landing burn.   ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AndyH on 04/20/2017 07:44 AM
Add 3% habanero to the duck's feed for a hotter burn?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Zardar on 04/20/2017 06:27 PM
Why bother with LZ-1? Just let it splashdown - it will float after all.......and use the "landing legs" to paddle to shore.
​Back to the duck for a moment... It would of course have to be reusable to keep the cost down.  Here is the re-entry analysis and image of the landing burn.   ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 04/20/2017 06:41 PM
Quote
Back to the duck for a moment...

Well, if it launches like a duck, and lands like a duck......
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 04/20/2017 08:24 PM
Why bother with LZ-1? Just let it splashdown - it will float after all.......and use the "landing legs" to paddle to shore.

Row row row your boat excavator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7odAbL3Ygts
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: launchwatcher on 04/21/2017 05:21 AM
Add 3% habanero to the duck's feed for a hotter burn?
I was thinking extra beans to ensure there's enough methane..
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: sghill on 04/21/2017 12:32 PM
How about 60 nano sats.  Each with a battery, solar cells and a bunch of super bright LEDs.  Station keeping would take some development.  But for SpaceX, I'm sure a trivial problem.  Future advertising possibilities could fund ITS! :)

Please tell me you aren't advocating that they replace the world's night sky with advertisements.  That's horrific.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AJW on 04/21/2017 04:12 PM
Top three ways to kill a party...

#3 Play a Yoko Ono album.
#2 The Cops show up.
#1 Govt. shutdown on April 28th.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRAl5Kqfy0g
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CharlieWildman on 04/21/2017 07:03 PM
How about 60 nano sats.  Each with a battery, solar cells and a bunch of super bright LEDs.  Station keeping would take some development.  But for SpaceX, I'm sure a trivial problem.  Future advertising possibilities could fund ITS! :)

Please tell me you aren't advocating that they replace the world's night sky with advertisements.  That's horrific.

Yeah... I agree, filling the night sky with advertisements is a really dumb idea.

With much larger, more powerful sats, advertising during  the day would be possible.  Really a much better way to go as most of the target audience would be awake to see it!  8)

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: swampcat on 04/21/2017 07:32 PM
How about 60 nano sats.  Each with a battery, solar cells and a bunch of super bright LEDs.  Station keeping would take some development.  But for SpaceX, I'm sure a trivial problem.  Future advertising possibilities could fund ITS! :)

Please tell me you aren't advocating that they replace the world's night sky with advertisements.  That's horrific.

Yeah... I agree, filling the night sky with advertisements is a really dumb idea.

With much larger, more powerful sats, advertising during  the day would be possible.  Really a much better way to go as most of the target audience would be awake to see it!  8)



And no pesky stars to get in the way.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: topo334 on 04/21/2017 07:57 PM
Please tell me you aren't advocating that they replace the world's night sky with advertisements.  That's horrific.

Nah, that's progress!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Craftyatom on 04/22/2017 05:54 AM
How about 60 nano sats.  Each with a battery, solar cells and a bunch of super bright LEDs.  Station keeping would take some development.  But for SpaceX, I'm sure a trivial problem.  Future advertising possibilities could fund ITS! :)

Please tell me you aren't advocating that they replace the world's night sky with advertisements.  That's horrific.

Yeah... I agree, filling the night sky with advertisements is a really dumb idea.

With much larger, more powerful sats, advertising during  the day would be possible.  Really a much better way to go as most of the target audience would be awake to see it!  8)



And no pesky stars to get in the way.

Well, just the one.  But one couldn't be that bad, right?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rei on 04/22/2017 08:40 AM
Why bother with spaceborne ads when you can just beam ads straight into people's heads with Neuralink?  ;)

"So, I was talking with Cindy the other day and... PURCHASE VIAGRA ONLINE!!!! ... she was saying to me that .....  FREE XXX NEURAL CONNECT!!!... she didn't think that.... hang on, I'm getting a message from a Nigerian prince...."
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 04/22/2017 12:55 PM
We could always build a Dyson sphere around the earth.

No more pesky stars.
Cover the outside with solar panels ending the energy crisis and global warming.
By selling the advertising rights to the inside surface we could have the advertisers and Nigerian prince's pay for it!

I for one look forward to the day I look up to what was the sky and see Chris's L2 add.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Saabstory88 on 04/22/2017 08:11 PM
You can see that in it "kneeled" position, the frame is down on the deck and the tracks are more proud.

Matthew

Well of course they're proud, they know they're going to be making history soon

Musk did say something silly... I'm thinking half mile in size should be nicely visible.
Gotta get back to work.  Having way too much fun on this stuff.  ;D



Edit: Sentence that could be taken extremely the wrong way deleted.

I'm not even joking, we have a 40' one in our warehouse if Musk wants it...

There HAS to be a story there. Why? Don't duck answering our questions....

Because why not a giant duck? (http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1470384.1380377605!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/pittsburgh-rubber-duck.jpg)

I'd post some pictures of the interior, but that's strictly L2 :P
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CharlieWildman on 04/22/2017 08:21 PM
We could always build a Dyson sphere around the earth.

No more pesky stars.
Cover the outside with solar panels ending the energy crisis and global warming.
By selling the advertising rights to the inside surface we could have the advertisers and Nigerian prince's pay for it!

I for one look forward to the day I look up to what was the sky and see Chris's L2 add.

I like Dyson spheres... Here's what Chris's L2 add would look like on the inside surface with a simulated star background.  Or just in the night sky which would save all that complicated construction stuff and having to deal with the Nigerian prince.


Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 04/25/2017 08:18 AM
Two words:  Sky Graffiti  >:(
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 04/26/2017 07:25 AM
Nah, it's just a really big art installation. The National Endowment for the Arts will probably cough up millions in taxpayer money for it.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CorvusCorax on 04/27/2017 06:21 AM
Quote
Back to the duck for a moment...

Well, if it launches like a duck, and lands like a duck......

She weights like a duck! Put her to static fire!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 04/28/2017 03:10 PM
I really think in order for SpaceX to impress the crowd they need a simultaneous instant launch with booster recovery of both Iridium-#2 and Intelsat-35e  at the same time.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: IntoTheVoid on 04/28/2017 03:14 PM
Rockets ARE Lego(s) (elements).

Quote from: collectSPACE
NASA Apollo #SaturnV to launch as #LEGO brick model set on June 1: http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-042817a-lego-nasa-apollo-saturn-v.html … #LEGOApollo @LEGOIdeas @NASAhistory

https://twitter.com/collectSPACE/status/857942631883579392

PS Does this mean that Lar will be out that day?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: wannamoonbase on 04/28/2017 04:25 PM
Rockets ARE Lego(s) (elements).

Quote from: collectSPACE
NASA Apollo #SaturnV to launch as #LEGO brick model set on June 1: http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-042817a-lego-nasa-apollo-saturn-v.html … #LEGOApollo @LEGOIdeas @NASAhistory

https://twitter.com/collectSPACE/status/857942631883579392

PS Does this mean that Lar will be out that day?

I'm buying 2
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 04/28/2017 05:48 PM
Rockets ARE Lego(s) (elements).

Quote from: collectSPACE
NASA Apollo #SaturnV to launch as #LEGO brick model set on June 1: http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-042817a-lego-nasa-apollo-saturn-v.html … #LEGOApollo @LEGOIdeas @NASAhistory

https://twitter.com/collectSPACE/status/857942631883579392

PS Does this mean that Lar will be out that day?

"Inside the box: exactly 1,969 pieces - a clever nod to the year of the first moon landing, by the crew of Apollo 11, in July 1969."

Maybe more that a day!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 04/28/2017 06:10 PM

"Inside the box: exactly 1,969 pieces - a clever nod to the year of the first moon landing, by the crew of Apollo 11, in July 1969."

Maybe more that a day!
And nine months later, there I am :)

Of course that ment, I was also at Woodstock, but that's another story all together...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CharlieWildman on 04/29/2017 03:27 AM
Harrumph!  Time to get on topic.  (if there is such a thing in the party thread!)  :P
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: IntoTheVoid on 04/29/2017 05:47 AM
Would they be using it for polar sub comms?

That seems like reasonable speculation. High dwell time over the poles could aid with that, among other things.

But general sigint over the poles is at least as compelling of a purpose.

The two implements on the patch seem significant. In the foreground is the spyglass, meaning "we're watching you." In the background is the gun, not drawing a bead, but ready if needed. Both messages meant for our friend, Boris the polar Bear, as he sniffs around the arctic?

Clearly, the satellite will be spying on Louisiana, otherwise why depict Lewis and Clark rather than Peary, Ross, Amundsen, or similar if the mission was to linger on the poles. No, definitely spying on Louisiana and maybe the western Midwest.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/29/2017 05:58 AM
I'm buying 2

... That's certainly a good start...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: southshore26 on 04/30/2017 03:22 AM
Waiting at the Hampton Inn in Melbourne... pretty sure I'm not sleeping tonight... first in person launch since CRS7....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Eagandale4114 on 04/30/2017 05:54 AM
The party for this launch seems to be as secretive as our bird tonight!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 04/30/2017 07:25 AM
Shhhhh!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JAFO on 04/30/2017 09:16 AM
My eyes still keep looking for wings poking out the side of the LC.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: southshore26 on 04/30/2017 10:17 AM
Greetings from Jetty Park... bit breezy this morning..
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jarnis on 04/30/2017 10:29 AM
Damn clouds.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 04/30/2017 10:49 AM
A little predawn music.

Edit:   Ooops, too early for exclamation marks!   ::)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: faramund on 04/30/2017 11:03 AM
Where are you seeing the spaceX page? For me spacex.com is offering a replay of the last launch - where it would usually have the webcast link.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Halidon on 04/30/2017 11:05 AM
Someone looks a bit tired this morning  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: jimbowman on 04/30/2017 11:07 AM
Guy is struggling. Skeleton crew this morning it seems.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 04/30/2017 11:15 AM
Sensor malfunction.....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 04/30/2017 11:18 AM
I sensor a disturbance in the launch force...

What's the toto sensor?

I'm not really sure but (regardless of wherever it was made...) I think it's not in Kansas any more...

Slightly off topic...

...only control center entrance is down the road from the house and now has a lovely selection of century plants installed along it inside the fence...

Century plant = Agave americana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agave_americana) according to Wikipedia, also known as the sentry plant. Appropriate.

Photo courtesy Wikimedia Commons (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Agave_americana_R01.jpg).


Whoever wrote that Wikipedia article needs to come around here. That 6-10 foot spread, 4-6 foot tall plant is 11 1/2 feet wide and 7 feet tall in my front yard. The stalk should be epic when it comes.


Whatever you do, don't accuse Nomadd of being an epic stalker!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Halidon on 04/30/2017 11:19 AM
Sensor malfunction.....
even the hardware was having trouble waking up this morning
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 04/30/2017 11:21 AM
Well that'll show em for making everyone wake up so damn early.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: landlubber on 04/30/2017 11:37 AM
I sensor a disturbance in the launch force...

What's the toto sensor?

I'm not really sure but (regardless of wherever it was made...) I think it's not in Kansas any more...

Operates like AFTS. Upon detection of prog rock it terminates with extreme prejudice :)

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rickl on 04/30/2017 12:08 PM
Good thing they didn't launch today.  I was so groggy when I got up, I forgot to put on my lucky SpaceX t-shirt.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Norm38 on 04/30/2017 02:10 PM
I didn't even get out of bed, just grabbed my phone. Then tried to go back to sleep but heard my 3 year old get up. So much for sleeping in. Now it's a rainy video game morning. Trying to finish Fallout 4
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: launchwatcher on 04/30/2017 03:02 PM
Per L2 naughty "out of family" sensor that scrubbed the SpaceX Falcon 9 NROL-76 launch was a TOTO (Temperature Ox Tank Outlet) sensor. They had redundancy, but didn't want to risk losing another one, so the "abundance of caution" was as presented.
They're well on their way to demonstrating airline-like operation, where a flight may be delayed because a redundant coffee maker isn't working...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 04/30/2017 05:00 PM
They determined the source of the sensor error.  An employee named Rosannnnnna.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 04/30/2017 05:01 PM
They determined the source of the sensor error.  An employee named Rosannnnnna.
Or somebody didn't bless the rains down in Africa.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 04/30/2017 05:09 PM
Slightly off topic...

Hey now, off topic in the party thread means serious business. There is no serious business in the party party thread. Someone needs to report this to a moderator!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 04/30/2017 05:40 PM
Slightly off topic...

Hey now, off topic in the party thread means serious business. There is no serious business in the party party thread. Someone needs to report this to a moderator!

Quite so -- no pooty parpers aloud (nor silent, for that matter) ... ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 04/30/2017 09:37 PM
Gentlemen, I fear I must accept responsibility for this delay. About a minute before launch it occurred to me that I had not made my usual comment in this thread and every time I failed to do so we have a scrub/abort/failure. A few seconds later...HOLD! I was trying to be logical about it and prove that my posting here had no bearing but obviously the gremlins out there are monitoring my thoughts when the tinfoil hat is on the rack. Have Elon send me a bill for the spoiled fuel. I'll try to be on my game before the next attempt.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/01/2017 12:43 AM
No cheeseburger for you!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 05/01/2017 10:17 AM
Good morning all ...
LIVE updates.   I'm alive.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: WindnWar on 05/01/2017 10:31 AM
Who says 6:30am is too early for a glass of Lagavulin 16. Not I....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 05/01/2017 11:06 AM
Due to the highly confidential nature of this mission, I cannot confirm whether I am at this party or not.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CorvusCorax on 05/01/2017 11:08 AM
He got the rocket at 12m AGAIN ?!? that must be a conspiracy of some sort ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 05/01/2017 11:09 AM
Woo... Woo... Party... Yeah... Must... not... hit... that... snooze... button...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: fatdeeman on 05/01/2017 11:14 AM
As I was saying yesterday, this is the best weather we have had for a RTLS, hoping for some spectacular footage! Last time it was good weather but got scrubbed and the next window was cloudy. This time we have been lucky enough to have nice weather twice. Beautiful golden morning light too!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JazzFan on 05/01/2017 11:14 AM
This launch is making me late for work.  Light this candle!!!!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/01/2017 11:24 AM
Smooooooth!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 11:32 AM
where did they get a tracking camera that good!!!???
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: toruonu on 05/01/2017 11:33 AM
where did they get a tracking camera that good!!!???

Well who's the customer, duh?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Craftyatom on 05/01/2017 11:34 AM
He got the rocket at 12m AGAIN ?!? that must be a conspiracy of some sort ;)

It's almost as if he's mistakenly reading a preliminary script for SpaceX's currently-in-development rocket that is 12m in diameter...  Conspiracies abound!

(in all fairness, he did say 12 feet in diameter later on in the webcast - plus, I was barely awake enough to watch the stream, let alone put on clothes and come to work to host a livestream)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Helodriver on 05/01/2017 11:35 AM
where did they get a tracking camera that good!!!???

Its always been there. My thought is there is footage of this quality of all the cape returns, and distant views of all the stage flips going out to the ASDS. We just haven't seen them as they weren't released.

SpaceX decided to show off because this time due to NRO restrictions they didn't have to pretend that 10 minutes of calmly flying and firing second stage burn was the coolest thing going on at the time ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 11:38 AM
where did they get a tracking camera that good!!!???

Well who's the customer, duh?

Usually that camera would be ON the payload!  lol
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 11:39 AM
where did they get a tracking camera that good!!!???

Its always been there. My thought is there is footage of this quality of all the cape returns, and distant views of tall the stage flips going out to the ASDS. We just haven't seen them as they weren't released.

SpaceX decided to show off because this time due to NRO restrictions they didn't have to pretend that 10 minutes of calmly flying and firing second stage burn was the coolest thing going on at the time ;)

LOL, but they could have used their famous split screen!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jarnis on 05/01/2017 11:49 AM
where did they get a tracking camera that good!!!???

Well who's the customer, duh?

If NRO were imaging the launch, we'd had this from top down perspective :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ben the Space Brit on 05/01/2017 11:57 AM
I suspect that the tracking cameras are old NASA Shuttle-era kit that's been pulled out of mothballs for soon-to-begin Commercial Crew flights. That aside, I can see NASA wanting to help SpaceX, given that their supersonic retropropulsion data is the only game in town for that particular field right now.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/01/2017 11:57 AM
Slightly off topic...

Hey now, off topic in the party thread means serious business. There is no serious business in the party party thread. Someone needs to report this to a moderator!

I'm on it... Er ... wait ...

I usually rail against government spying, etc, but I would like to (for once) shout out to the spies. Their secrecy (no second stage) means our glee at awesome footage

Also I would like to say that whoever first posted that "rains down in Africa" thing will be enduring my wrath. Now I've got an earworm, thanks a lot.  Here's hoping you do too, gentle reader.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 05/01/2017 12:16 PM
I wonder if that huge spike SpaceX is now putting on the end of the fairing is to help with the recovery efforts?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 05/01/2017 12:32 PM
Slightly off topic...

Hey now, off topic in the party thread means serious business. There is no serious business in the party party thread. Someone needs to report this to a moderator!

I'm on it... Er ... wait ...

I usually rail against government spying, etc, but I would like to (for once) shout out to the spies. Their secrecy (no second stage) means our glee at awesome footage

Also I would like to say that whoever first posted that "rains down in Africa" thing will be enduring my wrath. Now I've got an earworm, thanks a lot.  Here's hoping you do too, gentle reader.
Ok, let's change it up then for the NRO... :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsntlJZ9h1U
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Norm38 on 05/01/2017 02:14 PM
Did you guys catch the second stage engaging its cloaking device?  Right after the 1st stage flip, the view switches to the onboard camera and the second stage can be seen burning in the upper left corner. Then it just winks out.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: wannamoonbase on 05/01/2017 02:16 PM
Smooooooth!

Like butter
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: DOCinCT on 05/01/2017 02:23 PM
Was everyone else as impressed as I was with the quality of the daylight (admittedly early morning) CGI of the landing as show in the Musk Instagram video?  I liked the production staff's interpretation of the instant deployment of the landing legs just before landing in a big dust/exhaust cloud.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 05/01/2017 02:28 PM
Was everyone else as impressed as I was with the quality of the daylight (admittedly early morning) CGI of the landing as show in the Musk Instagram video?  I liked the production staff's interpretation of the instant deployment of the landing legs just before landing in a big dust/exhaust cloud.
Especially impressive that they remembered to make sure it didn't land dead center.  Nobody would believe that!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 05/01/2017 02:32 PM
Was everyone else as impressed as I was with the quality of the daylight (admittedly early morning) CGI of the landing as show in the Musk Instagram video?  I liked the production staff's interpretation of the instant deployment of the landing legs just before landing in a big dust/exhaust cloud.
Yeah, Pixar needs to step up their game from this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiR3AvNZklk
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/01/2017 02:39 PM
It was the entrepreneurial vision and very large private investment of Elon Musk, as well as the execution of 100s of people at SpaceX over years, that developed this this reusable technology over the past 7+years, that are now beginning to make this all look routine.

And people say SpaceX have a morale problem. The executions will continue till morale improves...

(c /of 100s/by 100s/  # and everything's fine )
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/01/2017 03:37 PM
I'm just glad that I got to watch the webcast while taking my morning shower, it was a one way broadcast, correct?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/01/2017 03:44 PM
My Firefox froze and crashed during the broadcast.  But the tweets kept me updated, and the videos have been amazing!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kaiser on 05/01/2017 03:45 PM
I suspect that the tracking cameras are old NASA Shuttle-era kit that's been pulled out of mothballs for soon-to-begin Commercial Crew flights. That aside, I can see NASA wanting to help SpaceX, given that their supersonic retropropulsion data is the only game in town for that particular field right now.

They've had these on the range forever, not pulled out of mothballs.  They watch pretty much all of the launches.  Look at Photosonics and L-3's KTM.

New replacement contract for range imaging and tracking systems is ARTIS.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 05/01/2017 04:09 PM
That's way too interesting and informative to be stuck on a party thread.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/01/2017 04:12 PM
That's way too interesting and informative to be stuck on a party thread.
Repost that nugget in the right thread?  Because moving posts OUT of the Party Thread ??? Just ISN'T DONE.

(in case it's not clear, I agree, that IS interesting)

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 05/01/2017 04:20 PM
I'm just glad that I got to watch the webcast while taking my morning shower, it was a one way broadcast, correct?

"Of course" ... ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 05/01/2017 04:21 PM
In this era of fake news, the party thread is the only accurate and reliable place to monitor all launches.
 ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 05/01/2017 04:26 PM
I'm just glad that I got to watch the webcast while taking my morning shower, it was a one way broadcast, correct?

"Of course" ... ;D
Watch out for your microwave that can turn into a camera according to Kellyanne  Conway... :o
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 05/01/2017 05:30 PM
Gentlemen, I fear I must accept responsibility for this delay. About a minute before launch it occurred to me that I had not made my usual comment in this thread and every time I failed to do so we have a scrub/abort/failure. A few seconds later...HOLD! I was trying to be logical about it and prove that my posting here had no bearing but obviously the gremlins out there are monitoring my thoughts when the tinfoil hat is on the rack. Have Elon send me a bill for the spoiled fuel. I'll try to be on my game before the next attempt.

That's better.  8)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/01/2017 06:32 PM
Quote
LOL, but they could have used their famous split screen!

They did.  They were just scaled for viewer interest.  You can see the 2nd stage on pixel 1597, 977
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: sanman on 05/02/2017 12:45 AM
I was really impressed at the close-ups we got on the returning booster stage - has anything like that ever been shown before? This has to be the closest view I've ever seen of the F9R booster in action. It started with seeing the booster separate after MECO1, and then we got to see its ACS squirting thrust to reorient the stage, then we saw the boostback burn. Finally when it was descending, we got to see the braking thrust burn -- all from the viewpoint from the ground! Amazing.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: bunker9603 on 05/02/2017 02:19 AM
He got the rocket at 12m AGAIN ?!? that must be a conspiracy of some sort ;)


Alternative facts*
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: IntoTheVoid on 05/02/2017 02:56 AM
I'm just glad that I got to watch the webcast while taking my morning shower, it was a one way broadcast, correct?

"Of course" ... ;D

NO! This was an NRO launch. The broadcast was only 1 way until fairing separation.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CharlieWildman on 05/02/2017 02:58 AM
Quote
LOL, but they could have used their famous split screen!

They did.  They were just scaled for viewer interest.  You can see the 2nd stage on pixel 1597, 977

That's most interesting.  I used a microscope to check pixel 1597, 977 and found that the 2nd stage had somehow changed from white to red green and blue. No kidding. I'm not making this up.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 05/02/2017 04:15 AM
I'm just glad that I got to watch the webcast while taking my morning shower, it was a one way broadcast, correct?

"Of course" ... ;D

NO! This was an NRO launch. The broadcast was only 1 way until fairing separation.

Ahhh, you *do* understand!  Good, good.  BTW, kevin-rf -- you missed a spot just below your left shoulder blade.  Don't feel bad about it, that's a rough spot to reach (I have trouble getting to it, too) ... ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/02/2017 04:48 AM
Ahhh, you *do* understand!  Good, good.  BTW, kevin-rf -- you missed a spot just below your left shoulder blade.  Don't feel bad about it, that's a rough spot to reach (I have trouble getting to it, too) ... ;)

You have trouble getting to kevin-rf's shoulder blade... TMI. And no I don't mean Trans Mars Injection.  This ain't that kind of forum, write your slashfic somewhere else.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 05/02/2017 05:14 AM
Ahhh, you *do* understand!  Good, good.  BTW, kevin-rf -- you missed a spot just below your left shoulder blade.  Don't feel bad about it, that's a rough spot to reach (I have trouble getting to it, too) ... ;)

You have trouble getting to kevin-rf's shoulder blade... TMI. And no I don't mean Trans Mars Injection.  This ain't that kind of forum, write your slashfic somewhere else.

LOL!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: fatdeeman on 05/02/2017 06:58 AM
I was really impressed at the close-ups we got on the returning booster stage - has anything like that ever been shown before?

The promo video they put out after the first RTLS landing had some very similar camera angles but it was night time of course.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/02/2017 09:40 AM
Ahhh, you *do* understand!  Good, good.  BTW, kevin-rf -- you missed a spot just below your left shoulder blade.  Don't feel bad about it, that's a rough spot to reach (I have trouble getting to it, too) ... ;)

You have trouble getting to kevin-rf's shoulder blade... TMI. And no I don't mean Trans Mars Injection.  This ain't that kind of forum, write your slashfic somewhere else.

And yet, somehow he missed warming me about the tick crawling up my neck.... I must say, that camera in the microwave is not very good.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/02/2017 07:36 PM
We should get a contest going to guess when someone will finally spot NROL-76 in orbit.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 05/02/2017 10:13 PM
They could just use a speedboat with a winch on the back.
Hook on the the para-foil harness and bring it back like a para sailor.

Are we going to start naming fairings yet?

Edit to add: Since apparently no-one noticed, I'll advertise that I did add a name to fairing in the picture...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 05/02/2017 10:54 PM
Plus, by then they'll need another pad set up for crew for the 12 flights around the moon each year.

So only when there is a full moon? ;D
Why would you want to go on a moon mission when it's only a crescent or worse a new moon when it's not even there!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/03/2017 07:11 AM
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Are we going to start naming fairings yet?

We really have to if we are serious about becoming a sea fairing country.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mme on 05/03/2017 09:10 AM
They could just use a speedboat with a winch on the back.
Hook on the the para-foil harness and bring it back like a para sailor.

Are we going to start naming fairings yet?
Bob.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ben the Space Brit on 05/03/2017 12:35 PM
They could just use a speedboat with a winch on the back.
Hook on the the para-foil harness and bring it back like a para sailor.

Are we going to start naming fairings yet?

Because of the shape, give them names of boats from popular culture (or just the shows' names if the name of the vessel is not known). The more comedic the better. For example Pea Green A and B referring to The Owl and the Pussycat.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/03/2017 12:53 PM
Seriously, I think we may want to track them, although naming is a bit of a boatload of poppycock. :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 05/03/2017 01:35 PM
Are we going to start naming fairings yet?

Because of the shape, give them names of boats from popular culture (or just the shows' names if the name of the vessel is not known). The more comedic the better. For example Pea Green A and B referring to The Owl and the Pussycat.

Hmm... what famous boats and ships can I recall?  Let's see... Minnow, Poseidon, Edmund Fitzgerald, Titanic, Lusitania, Andrea Doria, Bismarck,...  Okay, bad list.  Let's try something else.

Oh, I know.  How about ships from Star Trek?  Let's see, there was Essex, Constellation, Excalibur, Enterprise, Antares, Intrepid,... Enterprise?, Valiant,... Enterprise?!?  Oh, phooey.

Anyone have a good list of *surviving* boats and ships?  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ben the Space Brit on 05/03/2017 02:15 PM
This is Elon Musk. You know that there would be a Love Boat and a Gilligan.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/03/2017 02:22 PM
HMS Spanker ? it had to be a misprint, but when I looked at the relative page there it was, HMS Spanker, minesweeper. I turned back to the index and soon discovered that HMS Spanker was not the only warship to bear a silly name. A quick check unearthed the destroyers HMS Fairy and HMS Frolic, the light cruiser, HMS Sappho and the corvette, HMS Pansy.

(from https://www.reddit.com/r/Warships/comments/3bh5ze/a_humorous_read_about_rn_ship_names/ ... )

I saw (but failed to find again) a list of really silly RN ship names that all start with I (which weren't actually used) but these supposedly were.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: launchwatcher on 05/03/2017 02:43 PM
HMS Spanker ? it had to be a misprint, but when I looked at the relative page there it was, HMS Spanker, minesweeper. I turned back to the index and soon discovered that HMS Spanker was not the only warship to bear a silly name. A quick check unearthed the destroyers HMS Fairy and HMS Frolic, the light cruiser, HMS Sappho and the corvette, HMS Pansy.

(from https://www.reddit.com/r/Warships/comments/3bh5ze/a_humorous_read_about_rn_ship_names/ ... )

I saw (but failed to find again) a list of really silly RN ship names that all start with I (which weren't actually used) but these supposedly were.
Here's a list from 2003, all starting with "In", which is a mix:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.puzzles/ZOFsCULp42I/Y-QVUMsBJgsJ
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: RonM on 05/03/2017 03:33 PM
HMS Spanker ? it had to be a misprint, but when I looked at the relative page there it was, HMS Spanker, minesweeper. I turned back to the index and soon discovered that HMS Spanker was not the only warship to bear a silly name. A quick check unearthed the destroyers HMS Fairy and HMS Frolic, the light cruiser, HMS Sappho and the corvette, HMS Pansy.

(from https://www.reddit.com/r/Warships/comments/3bh5ze/a_humorous_read_about_rn_ship_names/ ... )

I saw (but failed to find again) a list of really silly RN ship names that all start with I (which weren't actually used) but these supposedly were.
Here's a list from 2003, all starting with "In", which is a mix:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.puzzles/ZOFsCULp42I/Y-QVUMsBJgsJ

Hey, that list left off my favorite fake RN ship name, the HMS Insipid.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: wannamoonbase on 05/03/2017 03:39 PM
This is Elon Musk. You know that there would be a Love Boat and a Gilligan.

Fairing McFairingface

I doubt fairings would ever be named but if they were I think it would be named as a couple like 'Ralph and Alice'
 'Romeo and Juliet' etc.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Doesitfloat on 05/03/2017 03:45 PM
In accordance with naming after British ships I would have to go with the Turbinia

Mainly due to it's demonstration to the Royal Navy.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: pmenstrom on 05/03/2017 04:43 PM
The NSF calendar currently has a NET date of 5/31 for SpX-11 a NET date of 6/1 for SpX-12.
They are probably going to be demonstrating full and rapid re-use of the same first stage :-)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: guyw on 05/03/2017 06:13 PM
They could just use a speedboat with a winch on the back.
Hook on the the para-foil harness and bring it back like a para sailor.

Are we going to start naming fairings yet?
Bob.
Could we name it Bruce instead? Bob could be confusing. Bob is a palindrome though.
 
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 05/03/2017 07:14 PM
Are we going to start naming fairings yet?
Bob.

I doubt fairings would ever be named but if they were I think it would be named as a couple like 'Ralph and Alice'
 'Romeo and Juliet' etc.

Between Bob and fairings named after couples, I can't help but ask whether the second stage (hypothetically reusable) can get its own name, too.  Why?  Because I'd love to see Abby Garrett (https://twitter.com/abbygarrettX/status/847864815569833985) draw a comic where a second stage shows up to do a job and says:

"Hi, I'm Larry.  This is my fairing Darryl, and this is my other fairing Darryl."
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 05/03/2017 07:16 PM
"Hi, I'm Larry.  This is my fairing Darryl, and this is my other fairing Darryl."
Brilliant! Well played, sir!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 05/03/2017 08:32 PM
Plus, by then they'll need another pad set up for crew for the 12 flights around the moon each year.

So only when there is a full moon? ;D
Why would you want to go on a moon mission when it's only a crescent or worse a new moon when it's not even there!
To see if Gary Larson is on the Far Side.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 05/03/2017 09:24 PM
So we need a prefix... but how about

Better half
Other half
Splitter
Divided we fall
Half a mind to...

... you get the idea.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Kansan52 on 05/03/2017 09:27 PM
Thing One

Thing Two
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 05/04/2017 05:55 AM
Are we going to start naming fairings yet?
Bob.
Skip.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: alang on 05/04/2017 11:49 AM
HMS Spanker ? it had to be a misprint, but when I looked at the relative page there it was, HMS Spanker, minesweeper. I turned back to the index and soon discovered that HMS Spanker was not the only warship to bear a silly name. A quick check unearthed the destroyers HMS Fairy and HMS Frolic, the light cruiser, HMS Sappho and the corvette, HMS Pansy.

(from https://www.reddit.com/r/Warships/comments/3bh5ze/a_humorous_read_about_rn_ship_names/ ... )

I saw (but failed to find again) a list of really silly RN ship names that all start with I (which weren't actually used) but these supposedly were.

I was saddened to discover that "HMS Humbug" was an invention of Patrick O'Brian but apparently his Spanish warship "Cacafuego" did have a name that had been used in fact.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 05/04/2017 01:05 PM
Mutt and Jeff
Thing 1 and Thing 2
George and Gracie
Fred and Ginger

Reality is unless they start marking them,
 or announcing which fairing came from where,
 we may never be able to track them
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Shanuson on 05/04/2017 01:18 PM
Well. We could start by giving first stages names other than core 1032. At least for those who can fly again and arn't flown away (you fly them and dont throw them).
If SpaceX doesn't do it officially it is their loss and maybe they catch on  :D 
Chris G could casually use our names at the next press conference when he asks a question to give the hint ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 05/04/2017 02:42 PM
So, a poster idea if anyone skilled in the digital arts wants to run with it:  "They Were Expendable" with a flock of Falcons (or something else).  8)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: swampcat on 05/04/2017 06:45 PM
Tweedledum and Tweedledee
Hansel and Gretel
Bacon and Eggs
Short and Squat
Dumb and Dumber
Cause and Effect
Needles and Pins
Blood and Guts
Stand and Be Counted

OK. I could go on, and on...

On and On
Here and There
.
.
.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Archibald on 05/04/2017 07:13 PM
HMS Spanker ? it had to be a misprint, but when I looked at the relative page there it was, HMS Spanker, minesweeper. I turned back to the index and soon discovered that HMS Spanker was not the only warship to bear a silly name. A quick check unearthed the destroyers HMS Fairy and HMS Frolic, the light cruiser, HMS Sappho and the corvette, HMS Pansy.

(from https://www.reddit.com/r/Warships/comments/3bh5ze/a_humorous_read_about_rn_ship_names/ ... )

I saw (but failed to find again) a list of really silly RN ship names that all start with I (which weren't actually used) but these supposedly were.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXT_IOt81Xs
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: faramund on 05/04/2017 10:43 PM
The real problem with naming fairing halves as couples (say Barak and Michelle, and Donald and Melania), is what happens after the first launch. What if Barak needs more inspections, so instead Donald is paired up with Michelle?  ::)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 05/04/2017 11:08 PM
The real problem with naming fairing halves as couples (say Barak and Michelle, and Donald and Melania), is what happens after the first launch. What if Barak needs more inspections, so instead Donald is paired up with Michelle?  ::)
It's worse than that. Every couple MUST split-up shortly after launch, and anything other than a clean split could result in LOM.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 05/04/2017 11:25 PM
Alimony and severance...

Would bring a new meaning to LOM... Loss Of Matrimony.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Kansan52 on 05/04/2017 11:29 PM
Wife. Girlfriend.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 05/05/2017 12:10 AM
Alimony and severance...

Would bring a new meaning to LOM... Loss Of Matrimony.

Worse still, I've been with my wife for 34 years. Any idea how difficult a separation would be? Might remain attached and cause LOM. (Loss of Mates?) Better stick to numbers or something.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Mongo62 on 05/05/2017 12:44 AM
What about musical duos? They split up all the time.

Simon and Garfunkel
Sonny and Cher
Ike and Tina Turner

Well, maybe not!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 05/05/2017 12:50 AM
What about musical duos? They split up all the time.

Simon and Garfunkel
Sonny and Cher
Ike and Tina Turner

Well, maybe not!
That could work. They often go on reunion tours after the break-up.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/05/2017 01:39 AM
Quote
That could work. They often go on reunion tours after the break-up.

Or form new groups like the Traveling Wilburys.   Celine and Ozzy anyone?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: IntoTheVoid on 05/05/2017 07:41 PM
I apologize for the European diversion, but I couldn't find an Arianespace Party Thread  ??? Go figure.

Quote from: Caleb Henry
Overseen in Kourou: the Guiana Space Center's Jupiter control room made entirely out of legos.
https://twitter.com/CHenry_SN/status/860570441727045632

(Lar, try to concentrate on the picture. You're probably not authorized to edit Caleb's twitter)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: John Alan on 05/08/2017 01:19 AM
Two plus days and no posts?...  :o

I guess the next launch being expendable  :'( kinda killed this party thread...  ???
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/08/2017 06:11 AM
It's one of 'those' byob, bring your own boostback parties.  :-X
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 05/08/2017 11:10 AM
We could ask to rename the party thread?
 How about the expendable party thread...
wait. Bad idea, Let's keep the current name.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 05/08/2017 01:24 PM
We should start campaigning for video on expendable first stage disassembly on reentry...  why waste a perfectly planned and executed kaboom. 
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/08/2017 01:51 PM
Phew!

https://xkcd.com/1834/
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 05/08/2017 02:12 PM
Phew!

https://xkcd.com/1834/

"... no, we *don't* want fried with that!"  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: jacqmans on 05/09/2017 01:20 PM
Launch Viewing for SpaceX Inmarsat-5

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Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 05/11/2017 02:17 PM
In the audio from the Livestream; I heard a question asked by the Great Michael Collins!! :) Good to know he's still about and interested. His biography was the first Astronaut bio I ever read - and one of the best at that.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/11/2017 02:45 PM
I apologize for the European diversion, but I couldn't find an Arianespace Party Thread  ??? Go figure.

Quote from: Caleb Henry
Overseen in Kourou: the Guiana Space Center's Jupiter control room made entirely out of legos.
https://twitter.com/CHenry_SN/status/860570441727045632

(Lar, try to concentrate on the picture. You're probably not authorized to edit Caleb's twitter)

That's pretty cool! We need someone to do that for KSC :) Or for SpaceX Hawthorne :)  And I controlled myself about the tweet!!!!

We could ask to rename the party thread?
 How about the expendable party thread...
wait. Bad idea, Let's keep the current name.


"They were expendable" ??

Launch Viewing for SpaceX Inmarsat-5
<snip>

TOTALLY off topic... sigh.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: butters on 05/11/2017 05:00 PM
This cadence is pleasant. Being a SpaceX fan is now like being an F1 fan: a Grand Prix weekend every other week more or less. I can almost imagine the 2-second pit stops for landed boosters...  :o ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: bjornl on 05/11/2017 05:45 PM
Soon...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 05/11/2017 06:47 PM
I can almost imagine the 2-second pit stops for landed boosters...  :o ;)
Seriously, do not give Elon any ideas. 
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CorvusCorax on 05/11/2017 09:14 PM
I can almost imagine the 2-second pit stops for landed boosters...  :o ;)
Seriously, do not give Elon any ideas.

Seriously, don't give Bernie Ecclestone funny ideas. He might be in search of a new racing format now that they kicked him out of F1.

What's the lap-time record in the Earth Orbit racetrack?

Edit: I calculated 01:27:05.12 at 130km. but you can probably get it under 01:26:30 if you dip a bit into the atmosphere. With constant propulsion to keep the speed up of course. Maybe even less if you use propulsion for centripetal force at even higher speeds.

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CharlieWildman on 05/11/2017 09:33 PM
I can almost imagine the 2-second pit stops for landed boosters...  :o ;)
Seriously, do not give Elon any ideas.

Seriously, don't give Bernie Ecclestone funny ideas. He might be in search of a new racing format now that they kicked him out of F1.

What's the lap-time record in the Earth Orbit racetrack?



Edit: I calculated 01:27:05.12 at 130km. but you can probably get it under 01:26:30 if you dip a bit into the atmosphere. With constant propulsion to keep the speed up of course. Maybe even less if you use propulsion for centripetal force at even higher speeds.

Rocket racing!  The general public could really get behind this! Lets forget all that boring scientific and commercial stuff and just see how FAST we can go.  F1 may be in trouble.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CorvusCorax on 05/11/2017 10:42 PM
I can almost imagine the 2-second pit stops for landed boosters...  :o ;)
Seriously, do not give Elon any ideas.

Seriously, don't give Bernie Ecclestone funny ideas. He might be in search of a new racing format now that they kicked him out of F1.

What's the lap-time record in the Earth Orbit racetrack?



Edit: I calculated 01:27:05.12 at 130km. but you can probably get it under 01:26:30 if you dip a bit into the atmosphere. With constant propulsion to keep the speed up of course. Maybe even less if you use propulsion for centripetal force at even higher speeds.

Rocket racing!  The general public could really get behind this! Lets forget all that boring scientific and commercial stuff and just see how FAST we can go.  F1 may be in trouble.

For the price of a F1 race you could certainly have a rocket race, especially with reuseability. The Annual budget of any F1 racing team is estimated between 50 million and a quarter billion dollar. The hosting fees of a racecourse also can border on a billion dollar over 10 years. Revenue from advertising is a assumed to be much more.

With that kinda budget you could definitely host rocket races at SpaceX launch current costs.

The tricky part would be how to make the rules entertaining. Launch and landing definitely have to be part of it. I would suggest a 2 stage race-rocket design, with the booster stage returning back to landing site and the racing stage entering low earth orbit and also landing back at the launch site.

The race would have to go over enough orbits that it possibly makes sense to land, refuel and restart at least once (in order to manage the fuel intensive extremely-low-orbits) But landing and restarting costs valuable time (even assuming the booster has already been refueled and only the upper stage needs a 2s pitstop-refuel, cause the landing and launch take time compared to to vehicle remaining in a higher, less fuel consuming orbit) But one also has to take into account that the earth rotates under the orbital track, so relaunching is only possible when the launch site passes under the orbital track. Which - assuming high inclination orbits - is around twice per day (but not evenly spaced). Finishing the race early then also possibly implies a larger plane change to line up. (Or setting up the initial orbit just right)

One could also make one refueling pitstop mandatory, or limit the maximum orbital height so low that its effectively necessary (also a good idea to prevent space-debris creation)

Edit: Another idea could also be an orbital checkpoint. Like the "gates" they have in air races, they could orbit a "stationary" gate-ring (possibly an inflatable) in let's say a 250 km circular orbit. Camera equipped , and maybe with a few nearby floating cube sats for nice visuals and camera tracking.

A race rocket that would rendezvous with this from a 130x250 elyptical orbit (and possibly even a slightly different orbital plane) would be fast enough to be REALLY spectacular, but still slow enough that the cameras have something to show and it can "thread the needle" with good enough trajectory planning and keeping. It would also be difficult enough for occasional misses. And make a nice point for potential close encounters between the different race participants.

Way more spectacular than these slow and careful rendezvous approaches to the iSS :)

The goal could also to thread the same ring twice in the shortest time possible while still making it below 150km in between to prevent participants from just matching orbits and manouvering tightly around the ring, although that, too might look awesome. Assume a rocket coming in on a 130x250 elyptical orbit, circularizing orbit while threading the ring, making a quick loop around it on manouvering thrusters, then firing for the deorbit burn on the 2nd ring pass - all captured on several cubesats high def cameras, and there already comes the next rocket for the tight corner!

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Kansan52 on 05/11/2017 10:55 PM
Rocket League failed and it was set up for people to watch!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CorvusCorax on 05/11/2017 11:16 PM
Rocket League failed and it was set up for people to watch!

Come on, those cars barely left the ground. That's like comparing Falcon9 to New Shepherd.

Now wonder that game had "suborbital" reviews.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CharlieWildman on 05/11/2017 11:24 PM
Rocket League failed and it was set up for people to watch!

We're talking huge, powerful, expensive, cutting edge fire belching monsters here.  And in space to boot. ;D  What could be better than that!
 
I tried to keep up on the rocket league but there was not enough smoke, fire and thunder for my taste.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 05/12/2017 06:19 AM
Nah, you guys are thinking too small.  First around the Moon and back.  Thread the needle by looping around REALLY close to the surface (complete with remote cameras on the Far Side beaming live shots back via lunar comsat). 
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: FutureSpaceTourist on 05/12/2017 06:59 AM
Hmm and people complain that cricket test matches (which last up to 5 days) are too long for spectators :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 05/12/2017 12:47 PM
Hmm and people complain that cricket test matches (which last up to 5 days) are too long for spectators :D

I imagine the people who watch races (well, race highlights) for the crashes would really like a well-funded very high stakes rocket race (assuming it was low enough for debris constraints to be no issue).  Push the limits far enough, and you'll be in Ivanova territory...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnR3Tyrg_10
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ben the Space Brit on 05/12/2017 12:58 PM
Soon...

"No, seriously, I've got to be crazy with these prices! In fact, I'm so crazy that, if you tell the guy in the lot 'Elon sent me', we'll throw in a Hyperloop car for free! Like I said: Certifiable!"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: oiorionsbelt on 05/12/2017 04:05 PM
SpaceX rocket mouse lemur launch and landing.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: launchwatcher on 05/14/2017 03:25 PM
A candidate for the Boring Company theme song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbDmvCWyiVs
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: John Alan on 05/14/2017 07:59 PM
I posted this elsewhere...

My sense is he used numbers from his latest Merlin D test engines to go across their test stand and then rounded (either up or down) for the audience he was speaking to (the people who set up the video call)...

Any engineer I know can rattle off where they stand on meeting a target and the numbers to back his standing.

That said... those numbers made me  :o and they MAY hint at what percent power they have run M1D max on the test stand...

As I understand it... to "crank up" the M1D... you just add more "power" at the pump power turbine... spin the pumps a bit faster... and run it till it blows...  :D
Beef up what let go and and repeat till you hit the laws of physics...  :P
Then you call that "11" and turn it back down to "10"... 
Doing so, that 10500 kN figure makes sense with the quoted 215 Klb thrust M1vac number, my opinion...  ;)

Which made want to go find this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o)

Which Wikipedia covered here... meaning and source from the 40's...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_to_eleven (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_to_eleven)

And I put all that here... over in the silly section...  ;D

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CharlieWildman on 05/15/2017 03:44 AM
From Chris Gebhardt's tweet today it looks like Inmarsat 5 F4 in going to launch on a Proton 9 tomorrow.  Never heard of a Proton 9 before.  Maybe SpaceX has gone Russian or nuclear...  Or something.  :P


Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 05/15/2017 04:23 AM
From Chris Gebhardt's tweet today it looks like Inmarsat 5 F4 in going to launch on a Proton 9 tomorrow.  Never heard of a Proton 9 before.  Maybe SpaceX has gone Russian or nuclear...  Or something.  :P

Maybe they decided to reverse the neutrality of the Proton flow?  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: atsf90east on 05/15/2017 04:35 AM
From Chris Gebhardt's tweet today it looks like Inmarsat 5 F4 in going to launch on a Proton 9 tomorrow.  Never heard of a Proton 9 before.  Maybe SpaceX has gone Russian or nuclear...  Or something.  :P

Maybe they decided to reverse the neutrality of the Proton flow?  ;)

Don't cross the streams.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: EgorBotts on 05/15/2017 07:30 AM
From Chris Gebhardt's tweet today it looks like Inmarsat 5 F4 in going to launch on a Proton 9 tomorrow.  Never heard of a Proton 9 before.  Maybe SpaceX has gone Russian or nuclear...  Or something.  :P

Well, we all saw in 2013 the last attempt to bring the Proton first stage for a landing, I simply wish this time things would go smoother.
Can't wait to see how it compete with the Ariane 9 and the Atlas 9.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 05/15/2017 08:29 AM
From Chris Gebhardt's tweet today it looks like Inmarsat 5 F4 in going to launch on a Proton 9 tomorrow.  Never heard of a Proton 9 before.  Maybe SpaceX has gone Russian or nuclear...  Or something.  :P

Maybe they decided to reverse the neutrality of the Proton flow?  ;)

Who did?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 05/15/2017 01:52 PM
Egon...  Elon... so close. 
Do you ever wonder?  ::)

(Insert your favorite ghostbusters image here)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 05/15/2017 07:42 PM
It occurred to me just now what the most important reason is for taking down the RSS at 39A.....it blocks the view on the SFN feed.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 05/15/2017 07:44 PM
Once again I have undertaken to get the spiritual situation in order before the flight. While wandering a local park I encountered a friendly evangelist who told me he had previously soared the Heavens and danced with the riddles of the Cosmos. Then he explained to me that what I was after wasn't exactly rocket surgery and everything was going to be "cool man. Really far out cool." I must admit he had a comfortably numbing influence on all around him.  8)
 
Ya'll hang on. Everything gonna be alright.

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 05/15/2017 11:37 PM
Gotta see that reentry video!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/15/2017 11:38 PM
So does Loss of Signal in the Bermuda Triangle mean we should party like it's 1999?

It did just claim the first stage!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/15/2017 11:46 PM
Anyone else hear all the Ooohs and Aaaahs after stage seperation?  Makes me wonder if there is some good reentry video.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/15/2017 11:51 PM
SpaceX finally got footage of Nessie eating a space
Anyone else hear all the Ooohs and Aaaahs after stage seperation?  Makes me wonder if there is some good reentry video.
They finally got a glimpse of the monster that snacks on rockets in the Bermuda Triangle!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/15/2017 11:53 PM
But, but,........ there be no dragons!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Khadgars on 05/15/2017 11:54 PM
Fantastic launch, congrats!  :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 05/15/2017 11:59 PM
Bo-ring.  Nothing to see here...
Let's party!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: punder on 05/16/2017 12:08 AM
Buddy at work said "Whaaaat?! They're not recovering the first stage???" As if dropping a rocket booster in the ocean is the dumbest thing he ever heard.   8)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rickl on 05/16/2017 12:22 AM
Buddy at work said "Whaaaat?! They're not recovering the first stage???" As if dropping a rocket booster in the ocean is the dumbest thing he ever heard.   8)

And that is what is known as a "paradigm shift".

I read somewhere around here that this is only the second time they haven't attempted to recover the booster since the first successful landing in December 2015.  SpaceX is landing more first stages than not nowadays.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 05/16/2017 12:30 AM
Congratulations on hopefully one of the last SpaceX fully expendable launches (since there is no indication at the moment that fairy recovery attempt was planned either) !
Now to bring back everything !!! :-D
Oh, and we would loooove to see that hypothetical death cam footage from S1 !

perfect.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 05/16/2017 12:30 AM
What no landing? I guess I'll go fish it out myself then...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CharlieWildman on 05/16/2017 01:05 AM
Expendable rocket?  How retro is that.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: jabe on 05/16/2017 01:09 AM
thoughts on what this tweet means? https://twitter.com/jbtaylor/status/864281417185808384 (https://twitter.com/jbtaylor/status/864281417185808384)
Quote
This video we are about to post.... Wow!
jb
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/16/2017 01:10 AM
Expendable rocket?  How retro is that.

It's so retro that the reentry video is only in 8 bit color and in the background you can hear the music to Galaxian.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachS09 on 05/16/2017 01:27 AM
Expendable rocket?  How retro is that.

It's so retro that the reentry video is only in 8 bit color and in the background you can hear the music to Galaxian.

More like Galaga because Galaxian is less famous than the former.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 05/16/2017 01:33 AM
But Gaplus was the best of all...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DLNFM6vgQM
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/16/2017 01:56 AM
That was one weird looking rocket with no legs!  It looked so naked!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 05/16/2017 01:58 AM
It occurred to me just now what the most important reason is for taking down the RSS at 39A.....it blocks the view on the SFN feed.
It might be nice to have the RSS at the visitors center rather than scrapping it...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/16/2017 02:25 AM
thoughts on what this tweet means? https://twitter.com/jbtaylor/status/864281417185808384 (https://twitter.com/jbtaylor/status/864281417185808384)
Quote
This video we are about to post.... Wow!
jb

He's just told me he meant the launch hightlights video. Yeah, everyone else thought he meant the video that got the SpaceXer's ooh and ahh'ing - which was the booster death cam.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rickl on 05/16/2017 02:29 AM
I'm not familiar with techno music, but I notice that the SpaceX webcasts always feature the music of Test Shot Starfish.  Could that be a SpaceX employee? 


If that's an established artist, I apologize for my ignorance.  Like I said, I don't follow techno music.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: sanman on 05/16/2017 03:03 AM
Gee, these expendable launches feel so antiquated now

"whaddya mean you threw away the rocket?!"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 05/16/2017 03:23 AM
I'm not familiar with techno music, but I notice that the SpaceX webcasts always feature the music of Test Shot Starfish.  Could that be a SpaceX employee? 


If that's an established artist, I apologize for my ignorance.  Like I said, I don't follow techno music.

Well, that was easy -- enjoy!

http://testshotstarfish.com/ (http://testshotstarfish.com/)

https://soundcloud.com/testshotstarfish (https://soundcloud.com/testshotstarfish)

https://www.amazon.com/Test-Shot-Starfish-EP/dp/B00008OD8T (https://www.amazon.com/Test-Shot-Starfish-EP/dp/B00008OD8T)

(lots more links came up ... these are just the first three)  :)

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 05/16/2017 03:32 AM
I'm not familiar with techno music, but I notice that the SpaceX webcasts always feature the music of Test Shot Starfish.  Could that be a SpaceX employee? 


If that's an established artist, I apologize for my ignorance.  Like I said, I don't follow techno music.

Well, that was easy -- enjoy!

http://testshotstarfish.com/ (http://testshotstarfish.com/)

https://soundcloud.com/testshotstarfish (https://soundcloud.com/testshotstarfish)

https://www.amazon.com/Test-Shot-Starfish-EP/dp/B00008OD8T (https://www.amazon.com/Test-Shot-Starfish-EP/dp/B00008OD8T)

(lots more links came up ... these are just the first three)  :)
Additional relevant info:

Quote
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/test-shot-starfish-mn0000814355
Multimedia duo Kyle Schember and Ryan Stuit met in 1999 in Los Angeles on a film set and, in addition to their own work, have since contributed audio to several television programs, commercials, and other video. They have also done remixes for Coldplay, Gus Gus, and Snoop Dogg and contributed work to such high-profile clients as Showtime, ESPN, Toyota, and the National Football League. Their own recordings arrived as an EP in 2003 and a self-titled full-length in summer 2005.
They appear to not have any particular affiliation with SpaceX although they say they make 'music for space'. Big fans of SpaceX? Maybe Elon is a big fan of theirs?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Pete on 05/16/2017 08:33 AM
And in today's Space News:
A SpaceX first stage has actually FAILED to land, being destroyed in an orgy of Aerodynamic forces during reentry!

Space enthusiasts all around the globe will have a day of mourning for the valiant lost soul stage.

Rocket Rights advocates are staging marches and petitions to ban such a  return to the Cruel Old Days when a rocket's life was only worth 2.5 minutes.






Disclaimer: The above statement is made is jest, call it sarcasm if you will. It does reflect my feelings though.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 05/16/2017 10:08 AM
thoughts on what this tweet means? https://twitter.com/jbtaylor/status/864281417185808384 (https://twitter.com/jbtaylor/status/864281417185808384)
Quote
This video we are about to post.... Wow!
jb

He's just told me he meant the launch hightlights video. Yeah, everyone else thought he meant the video that got the SpaceXer's ooh and ahh'ing - which was the booster death cam.

 ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: wannamoonbase on 05/16/2017 11:43 AM
I hope we get to see the death cam footage.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Mongo62 on 05/16/2017 12:56 PM
We're just a bunch of sickos here, wanting to watch rocket snuff films.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 05/16/2017 02:10 PM
Think of the missed opportunity of other launch providers... all these years.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 05/16/2017 02:46 PM
We're just a bunch of sickos here, wanting to watch rocket snuff films.
So that's why I like watching Rocket Explosions on YouTube. Who knew it was a fetish...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lars-J on 05/16/2017 04:51 PM
Steamroller time!  :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 05/16/2017 10:23 PM
I can't speak for everyone else, but I thoroughly enjoyed the fact that SpaceX's commentator wasn't being forced to bend over backwards repeating that the focus is on the primary mission--the successful deployment of the payload--and not the secondary objective of booster recovery.  Now, if we can just get them to do recovery missions without feeling like they have to continually harp on this fact. 
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachS09 on 05/16/2017 10:42 PM
And in today's Space News:
A SpaceX first stage has actually FAILED to land, being destroyed in an orgy of Aerodynamic forces during reentry!

Space enthusiasts all around the globe will have a day of mourning for the valiant lost soul stage.

Rocket Rights advocates are staging marches and petitions to ban such a  return to the Cruel Old Days when a rocket's life was only worth 2.5 minutes.






Disclaimer: The above statement is made is jest, call it sarcasm if you will. It does reflect my feelings though.

That is why the crowd at Hawthorne is obsessed with the first stage. They don't care about the primary mission of delivering satellites or launching probes beyond Earth. They are more interested in booster recovery.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/17/2017 12:42 AM

That is why the crowd at Hawthorne is obsessed with the first stage. They don't care about the primary mission of delivering satellites or launching probes beyond Earth. They are more interested in booster recovery.
Well, they do needed some tender loving care after such a traumatic launch experience. Plus many of them survive that to end up very sea sick.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Craftyatom on 05/17/2017 04:31 AM
It occurred to me just now what the most important reason is for taking down the RSS at 39A.....it blocks the view on the SFN feed.

That is a problem.  Anyone else willing to volunteer on the weekends?  I think NSF could bring the thing down in a month as long as we dispensed with haughty luxuries like "safety equipment" and "structural loads"!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ugordan on 05/17/2017 07:34 AM
42698   INMARSAT 5-F4   2017-025A      1401.67min   24.50deg   69839km   381km      
42699   FALCON 9 R/B   2017-025B           1410.43min   24.47deg   70181km   384km

Roughly a 1,570m/s deficit to GTO. That's almost Zenit-3SLB/Proton-M/Briz-M performance.
Those have more stages too. Not bad for kerolox 2 stage.

But, but... kerolox is very low energy. Sad!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jet Black on 05/17/2017 08:53 AM
It occurred to me just now what the most important reason is for taking down the RSS at 39A.....it blocks the view on the SFN feed.

That is a problem.  Anyone else willing to volunteer on the weekends?  I think NSF could bring the thing down in a month as long as we dispensed with haughty luxuries like "safety equipment" and "structural loads"!

They could pay us in SpaceX Lanyards and used cups.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 05/17/2017 09:26 AM
It occurred to me just now what the most important reason is for taking down the RSS at 39A.....it blocks the view on the SFN feed.

That is a problem.  Anyone else willing to volunteer on the weekends?  I think NSF could bring the thing down in a month as long as we dispensed with haughty luxuries like "safety equipment" and "structural loads"!

They could pay us in SpaceX Lanyards and used cups.

Would cross the Atlantic if we could play on the zip wires afterwards.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/17/2017 07:26 PM
It occurred to me just now what the most important reason is for taking down the RSS at 39A.....it blocks the view on the SFN feed.

That is a problem.  Anyone else willing to volunteer on the weekends?  I think NSF could bring the thing down in a month as long as we dispensed with haughty luxuries like "safety equipment" and "structural loads"!

Just let me have a bolt or two to take home and I'm there... I'll even bring my own work gloves and hard hat!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/17/2017 07:29 PM
A flight proven SpaceX Falcon 9 will deliver BulgariaSat-1 to a Geostationary Transfer Orbit (GTO).
"flight proven" still makes me LOL. With glee. 
Quote
Members of the media who are foreign nationals must also provide photocopies of their valid visa and passport to [email protected] 
How does that even work? You can't email pieces of paper, it just doesn't work that way.

(they probably mean email them scans)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: John Alan on 05/17/2017 07:42 PM
Scan to PDF and then email that as attachment is widely used... I bet that is acceptable in this case...  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 05/17/2017 11:38 PM
Scan to PDF and then email that as attachment is widely used... I bet that is acceptable in this case...  ;)

You and Lar sure know how to party... ;)

But seriously (???!), I have to pinch myself to check if I'm dreaming every time I hear 'flight-proven'

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 05/18/2017 12:53 AM
Hadn't you heard?  New company called TeleporteX will zap physical objects straight to Hawthorne.   The terminals are hidden in the new tunnels.  Shhh!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 05/18/2017 01:02 AM
Hadn't you heard?  New company called TeleporteX will zap physical objects straight to Hawthorne.   The terminals are hidden in the new tunnels.  Shhh!
Dude, that's L2 info! This is a public thread. Shhhh....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/18/2017 01:09 AM
Hadn't you heard?  New company called TeleporteX will zap physical objects straight to Hawthorne.   The terminals are hidden in the new tunnels.  Shhh!
Dude, that's L2 info! This is a public thread. Shhhh....
What's it doing on L2? That strickly the secret L<redacted> info.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 05/18/2017 01:15 AM
Hadn't you heard?  New company called TeleporteX will zap physical objects straight to Hawthorne.   The terminals are hidden in the new tunnels.  Shhh!
Dude, that's L2 info! This is a public thread. Shhhh....
What's it doing on L2? That strickly the secret L<redacted> info.
I literally saw that months ago on the inner dark under web. Turns out they create micro wormholes through flat plane of the earth and suck you through to the other side. The Boring Company is just a cover for it and SpaceX was just an attempt to create the tunnels through the firmament. True story dudes.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: toren on 05/18/2017 01:57 AM
Perhaps Elon has one of these...

(http://www.indyprops.com/pp-timemap1.jpg)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: toruonu on 05/18/2017 05:40 PM
Well in response to the long discussion about various numbers of stages my young padawan rocket engineer decided to build a 4 stage rocket with a modular service unit. However something in his math was off as he had a RUD during MaxQ or well when someone rocked the table ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: toruonu on 05/18/2017 05:43 PM
Well in the true spirit of SpaceX when rebuilding he didn't go for the safe path and made now a 5 stage rocket...

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/18/2017 05:52 PM
Get the LEGO Saturn V and then mod it into what you want...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/18/2017 07:07 PM
Quote
How does that even work? You can't email pieces of paper, it just doesn't work that way.

So, two guys at an office party are standing by the fax machine......
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 05/18/2017 07:46 PM
Perhaps Elon has one of these...

(http://www.indyprops.com/pp-timemap1.jpg)

Time bandits!!!!
Charlemagne. 4 foooot 6!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Cherokee43v6 on 05/18/2017 08:12 PM
Hadn't you heard?  New company called TeleporteX will zap physical objects straight to Hawthorne.   The terminals are hidden in the new tunnels.  Shhh!
Dude, that's L2 info! This is a public thread. Shhhh....
What's it doing on L2? That strickly the secret L<redacted> info.
I literally saw that months ago on the inner dark under web. Turns out they create micro wormholes through flat plane of the earth and suck you through to the other side. The Boring Company is just a cover for it and SpaceX was just an attempt to create the tunnels through the firmament. True story dudes.

I will be MOST disappointed if I don't get at least one trip through the twisty straw!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 05/19/2017 01:26 AM
Well in the true spirit of SpaceX when rebuilding he didn't go for the safe path and made now a 5 stage rocket...
Finally, conclusive proof that sometimes rockets are LEGO elements.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Flying Beaver on 05/19/2017 03:50 AM
Name related meme dump.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dorkmo on 05/19/2017 07:34 AM
guys, i think ive figured out what theyre going to use the crane down in boca chica for...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/19/2017 02:12 PM
guys, i think ive figured out what theyre going to use the crane down in boca chica for...
But that thing is only good for one launch... SpaceX is all about re-usability.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 05/19/2017 05:38 PM
guys, i think ive figured out what theyre going to use the crane down in boca chica for...
But that thing is only good for one launch... SpaceX is all about re-usability.
While it was only used once, was there something stating it could only be used once? I don't recall such a limitation being stated. Could easily have missed it though. I did always wonder why they just didn't send another person, but that wouldn't have made for the same drama and mystery.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/19/2017 06:37 PM
guys, i think ive figured out what theyre going to use the crane down in boca chica for...
But that thing is only good for one launch... SpaceX is all about re-usability.
While it was only used once, was there something stating it could only be used once? I don't recall such a limitation being stated. Could easily have missed it though. I did always wonder why they just didn't send another person, but that wouldn't have made for the same drama and mystery.
In the book it is made very clear that after the first use it stopped working by design. That way the five occupants (another fault of the movie) are the ones with with the message.  They just need everyone to accept what they say is true.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/19/2017 11:29 PM
Quote
But that thing is only good for one launch... SpaceX is all about re-usability.

Small steps Elon,..... small steps.

Elon:  To heck with that!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/20/2017 01:13 AM
So Lar is looking for a thread to put all the Upper Stage post launch partying... Think we should invite the upper stages to the party?

SES-8 Upper Stage Norad ID: 39461
Thaicom 6 Upper Stage Norad ID: 39501
AsiaSat 8  Upper Stage Norad ID: 40108
AsiaSat 6 Upper Stage Norad ID: 40142
ABS-3A , Satmex 7  Upper Stage Norad ID: 40426
MonacoSAT  Upper Stage Norad ID: 40618
SES-9 Upper Stage Norad ID: 41381
JCSAT-14 Upper Stage Norad ID: 41472
Thaicom 8 Upper Stage Norad ID: 41553
ABS 2, EUTELSAT 117W B Upper Stage Norad ID: 41590
JCSAT-16 Upper Stage Norad ID: 41730
Echostar 23 Upper Stage Norad ID: 42071
SES-10 Upper Stage Norad ID: 42433
Inmarsat-5 F4 Upper Stage Norad ID: 42699

Someone is keeping track of them, they have a record, and are the life of the party after all.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 05/21/2017 10:43 PM
Folks, we need to step things up around here. These folks know how to party.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUWQn2KBvS-/

Anyone got a fog machine in the basement?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/22/2017 04:59 AM
Quote
Anyone got a fog machine in the basement?

Nope, but for the next big SpaceX parteh, stop on by my booth.  I'll be making a killing from selling picax t-shirts.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 05/22/2017 06:30 AM
So Lar is looking for a thread to put all the Upper Stage post launch partying... Think we should invite the upper stages to the party?

SES-8 Upper Stage Norad ID: 39461
Thaicom 6 Upper Stage Norad ID: 39501
AsiaSat 8  Upper Stage Norad ID: 40108
AsiaSat 6 Upper Stage Norad ID: 40142
ABS-3A , Satmex 7  Upper Stage Norad ID: 40426
MonacoSAT  Upper Stage Norad ID: 40618
SES-9 Upper Stage Norad ID: 41381
JCSAT-14 Upper Stage Norad ID: 41472
Thaicom 8 Upper Stage Norad ID: 41553
ABS 2, EUTELSAT 117W B Upper Stage Norad ID: 41590
JCSAT-16 Upper Stage Norad ID: 41730
Echostar 23 Upper Stage Norad ID: 42071
SES-10 Upper Stage Norad ID: 42433
Inmarsat-5 F4 Upper Stage Norad ID: 42699

Someone is keeping track of them, they have a record, and are the life of the party after all.

Great...a bunch of party guests that are high as a kite and have records.  I can hear the sirens already...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 05/22/2017 06:33 AM
Quote
Anyone got a fog machine in the basement?

Nope, but for the next big SpaceX parteh, stop on by my booth.  I'll be making a killing from selling picax t-shirts.

I want one of the ones that says: "I SURVIVED FALCON HEAVY!"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/22/2017 02:12 PM
Great...a bunch of party guests that are high as a kite and have records.  I can hear the sirens already...

I would suggest, quite a bit higher....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: tleski on 05/22/2017 02:17 PM
You know that it would be untrue
You know that I would be a liar
If I was to say to you
Girl, we couldn't get much higher

Come on baby, light my fire
Come on baby, light my fire
Try to set the night on fire
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Robotbeat on 05/22/2017 04:21 PM
The parties on Mars are going to be lit.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 05/22/2017 05:44 PM
The parties on Mars are going to be lit.
So that's why Elon wanted to put a greenhouse on Mars...

That said I'm not sure whether to be more impressed by the improvement in SpaceX's rockets, or the improvement on their parties. I mean here is where they started on parties:

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: oiorionsbelt on 05/23/2017 01:24 AM
Oh, that's gotta be a poll.
 When will we have the first bona fide party on Mars? (To be bona fide, it must include alcohol and sex.)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lars-J on 05/23/2017 03:05 AM
Oh, that's gotta be a poll.
 When will we have the first bona fide party on Mars? (To be bona fide, it must include alcohol and sex.)

And surely a mariachi band? :) (of course SpaceX's mariachi band, outsourcing that is not going to happen) ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/23/2017 05:43 PM
Oh, that's gotta be a poll.
 When will we have the first bona fide party on Mars? (To be bona fide, it must include alcohol and sex.)

Not on my watch...

(IBM used to have (according to the Jargon Dictionary which is NEVER wrong) an LSD rule...[1]

Where'd you get a PUG [Payload User Guide]?
I requested one and they sent it.

This guy's too clever by half! Watch him...

1 - LSD: Liquor, Sex or Drugs... not on company time or furniture.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ringsider on 05/23/2017 05:56 PM
Where'd you get a PUG [Payload User Guide]?
I requested one and they sent it.

This guy's too clever by half! Watch him...

You would be surprised how far a simple request will get you in life.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Mongo62 on 05/23/2017 09:43 PM
You would be surprised how far a simple request will get you in life.

Speaking of which, one of the big SpaceX mysteries is the earlier booster numbers (B100xx). We only have them for the more recent launches, but it would be great to have them for all launches (plus non-flight boosters such as Grasshopper, F9R and engineering test objects). Has anybody actually asked SpaceX for a list of booster numbers with associated uses?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/24/2017 01:42 AM
Just as an aside from the edge of space; "The reports of U-2s' death are greatly exaggerated." -Proposed 2018 budget.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jet Black on 05/24/2017 09:46 AM
To maintain the purity of the NROL launch update thread I'm copying this here to respond:

Tweet from Jonathan McDowell (https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/867225945727434752)
Quote
Congrats to Leo Barhorst for locating the secret NRO sat launched by SpaceX on May 1 in a 400 km, 50 deg orbit (http://satobs.org )

It would be great if someone from the NRO replied and said "We'd congratulate you too, but that would mean us implying you know where our satellite is and then we'd have to kill you"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Craftyatom on 05/24/2017 02:43 PM
Just as an aside from the edge of space; "The reports of U-2s' death are greatly exaggerated." -Proposed 2018 budget.

Watch out for pilot Vertigo at high Elevation.  Might instead be worth directing funding towards How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/24/2017 02:57 PM
Watch out for pilot Vertigo at high Elevation.  Might instead be worth directing funding towards How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb...
The money would be better spent on How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 05/24/2017 09:14 PM
Launch land and relaunch party thread ...
Are we going to party about the
reuse of a dragon capsule for this next flight?
The capsule has a previous mission tattoo!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Scylla on 05/24/2017 10:17 PM
SpaceX Rocket Cows now have competition.

RocketLab Rocket Sheep.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 05/24/2017 10:31 PM
Just as an aside from the edge of space; "The reports of U-2s' death are greatly exaggerated." -Proposed 2018 budget.

Watch out for pilot Vertigo at high Elevation.  Might instead be worth directing funding towards How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb...

Nothing hard about that -- just Push The Button!  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lars-J on 05/24/2017 10:54 PM
SpaceX Rocket Cows now have competition.

RocketLab Rocket Sheep.

I suspect it would be hard to find any spot in NZ that doesn't have sheep withing sight.  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/25/2017 03:32 AM
SpaceX Rocket Cows now have competition.

RocketLab Rocket Sheep.

I suspect it would be hard to find any spot in NZ that doesn't have sheep withing sight.  ;D

NZ, where the men are men, and the sheep are nervous???

(Ok that was mean... but it's actually adapted from a saying about my alma mater, Michigan Tech)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: jjyach on 05/25/2017 01:21 PM
SpaceX Rocket Cows now have competition.

RocketLab Rocket Sheep.

I suspect it would be hard to find any spot in NZ that doesn't have sheep withing sight.  ;D

NZ, where the men are men, and the sheep are nervous???

(Ok that was mean... but it's actually adapted from a saying about my alma mater, Michigan Tech)

Hey now, Tech has added more Bio and Humanities studies since your time there.  The ratio still sucks, but there has been some slight improvement.....  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/25/2017 09:51 PM
MEDIA ADVISORY M17-063
NASA to Air Launch of Next International Space Station Resupply Mission

Air launch? Did Stratolaunch win a CRS contract then sub the actual launch out to NASA? I'm so confused!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/25/2017 10:33 PM
So in June of 1962, eight Thor's launched. This includes starfish. I think the bar has been raised and we need to crank up the music!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AndyH on 05/25/2017 11:19 PM
SpaceX Rocket Cows now have competition.

RocketLab Rocket Sheep.
Not much competition - the Rocket Cows don't look anywhere near that sheepish.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 05/25/2017 11:21 PM
SpaceX Rocket Cows now have competition.

RocketLab Rocket Sheep.
Not much competition - the Rocket Cows don't look anywhere near that sheepish.
Yeah and the RocketLab Rocket Sheep aren't nearly as beefy.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/25/2017 11:32 PM
I don't know, SpaceX's bird of prey looks a bit to tall, to thin, and a bit anorexic.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Norm38 on 05/26/2017 04:24 PM
This is going to be a fun summer.  They've launched 6 times so far this year, but 9 more launches planned by the end of August.  3 per month!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/27/2017 07:34 AM
This is going to be a fun summer.  They've launched 6 times so far this year, but 9 more launches planned by the end of August.  3 per month!

The launch update threads are starting to roll by like Highway signs.......

Denny's 5 more miles
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/27/2017 12:06 PM
So the Denny's launch will be in early August? Or will they push it up to late July?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 05/27/2017 12:16 PM
Lenny's?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/28/2017 01:31 PM
Four hours until the test window opens. Rocket is vertical on the pad. Steaming should be here later: http://original.livestream.com/spaceflightnow
If that's what you want to call it! :)  (venting, steaming, same same.. but where there's steam there's fire!)

Here's hoping this typo[1] is the biggest issue with the static fire.

1 - I love typos! They're fun to twist around and work for humor value. Chris'll probably forgive me.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 05/30/2017 05:32 AM
So in June of 1962, eight Thor's launched. This includes starfish. I think the bar has been raised and we need to crank up the music!

Sounds like a Thor point to me ... :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: RobW on 05/30/2017 05:52 AM
So in June of 1962, eight Thor's launched. This includes starfish. I think the bar has been raised and we need to crank up the music!

Sounds like a Thor point to me ... :)


<voice='Dr Zachary Smith'>Oh the pain, the pain!</voice>
Edit: for the young ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKwwcCpa2Ag
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JAFO on 05/30/2017 07:49 AM
SpaceX Rocket Cows now have competition.

RocketLab Rocket Sheep.
Not much competition - the Rocket Cows don't look anywhere near that sheepish.
Yeah and the RocketLab Rocket Sheep aren't nearly as beefy.

They all look like breakfast to a nest of hungry Ospreys at KSC.  (http://sts134launch.blogspot.com/2011/04/arrival.html)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JoerTex on 05/30/2017 08:22 PM
Rocket Sheep Lift Off

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/31/2017 01:47 AM
That's a Big Freakin Rocket Sheep!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 05/31/2017 02:51 AM
Snip

Maybe you could reduce the startup fireball effect by spraying liquid nitrogen into the flame trench just before Falcon 9 ignition.

Or maybe you can spray burnt hydrogen there (you can think it as liquid ash), it can also suppress the sound waves!!! Two flies in one swat! How nobody have think that before.

(sorry Zed I had to...)
You gotta be really careful with that dihydrogen monoxide stuff, though. Inhaling even just a small amount can be devastating to your lungs. Most people just think it's harmless, but it can be deadly and it's everywhere in the environment. You can read more at this great website:
www.dhmo.org

(Yes ,the website is real [and hilarious]. Yes, I know what DHMO actually is. Yes, you should, too.)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 05/31/2017 03:38 AM

 I guess I would have expected the pad perimeter to have been outside whatever distance debris could reasonably be expected to go in order to prevent this sort of thing.

Not really.  The pad perimeter fencing is added security and protection for critical pad systems, not for how far the rocket can throw debris.

 I'm not sure what good a "perimeter" would do anyhow, except to make access to the fire harder. And you're sure not going to pave a square mile of ground.

Seriously? Man, think bigger
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/31/2017 10:44 AM
So there are quite a few launches stacking up for the next 36 hours......have Chris and you all be fully prepared for all these rockets covfefe yet?  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/31/2017 11:46 AM
So there are quite a few launches stacking up for the next 36 hours......have Chris and you all be fully prepared for all these rockets covfefe yet?  ;)

Yes sir. We'll have live covfefe of all three. We have the best covfefe here, so great, unlike the failing fake news nasaspaceflight.org. Those guys are terrible. #SoSad
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 05/31/2017 12:01 PM
So there are quite a few launches stacking up for the next 36 hours......have Chris and you all be fully prepared for all these rockets covfefe yet?  ;)

Yes sir. We'll have live covfefe of all three. We have the best covfefe here, so great, unlike the failing fake news nasaspaceflight.org. Those guys are terrible. #SoSad

Like isn't strong enough for this one ...
Should be some extra things for example

 LMAO. 
Or even SCTMN = Spit coffee through my nose
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dodo on 05/31/2017 12:23 PM
If only all that energy could be applied in the vertical direction.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: tleski on 05/31/2017 01:00 PM
Yes, if you are just planning to go suborbital, otherwise I would put a significant proportion of it to gain adequate horizontal velocity.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Shanuson on 05/31/2017 02:22 PM
Yes, if you are just planning to go suborbital, otherwise I would put a significant proportion of it to gain adequate horizontal velocity.

Isn't it only a question of how far/fast you go "vertical". In the extrem case when you excede the earth escape velocity you will never come back to earth and thus you are definitely not suborbital. So the question is there a point(velocity) where you would enter an orbit around earth between being suborbital and leaving earth completely?

Also what kind of vertical are we talking about? vertical relative the the position on Earth we came from, which rotates. Or vertical as we do neither change our angular momentum vector nor our orientation to it.

And does this question even belongs into a party threat?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JasonAW3 on 05/31/2017 03:56 PM
Yes, if you are just planning to go suborbital, otherwise I would put a significant proportion of it to gain adequate horizontal velocity.

Isn't it only a question of how far/fast you go "vertical". In the extrem case when you excede the earth escape velocity you will never come back to earth and thus you are definitely not suborbital. So the question is there a point(velocity) where you would enter an orbit around earth between being suborbital and leaving earth completely?

Also what kind of vertical are we talking about? vertical relative the the position on Earth we came from, which rotates. Or vertical as we do neither change our angular momentum vector nor our orientation to it.

And does this question even belongs into a party threat?

Only is you're already three sheets to the wind! ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Retired Downrange on 05/31/2017 09:36 PM
I am in Melbourne Beach very close to the Cape, is there a "going to view launch" thread for this launch? If so I have  not been able to find it. Actually I am interested in seeing the landing.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dgates on 06/01/2017 12:03 AM
Jim is a steely eyed rocket man.  That is all.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dgates on 06/01/2017 12:10 AM
So there are quite a few launches stacking up for the next 36 hours......have Chris and you all be fully prepared for all these rockets covfefe yet?  ;)

Yes sir. We'll have live covfefe of all three. We have the best covfefe here, so great, unlike the failing fake news nasaspaceflight.org. Those guys are terrible. #SoSad
There is a colloquial term in the USAF and flight test community, "queep".  Covfefe is similar although is smells worse.  Is admin BS, unneeded paperwork, useless reports, forms filled out for the sake of filling out forms, hurt feelings reports, etc.
Another possible is "unequaled excellence", as in "this rocket is SO damned covfefe, it's gonna shoot that comsat into GTO on the first stage alone.  Just sayin'.

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 06/01/2017 12:32 AM
Here in the blessed city of my fathers and my father's fathers we have an abundance of spiritual resources to call on when the going gets tough. In the next 24 hours we have double the usual need. The Predators are playing in the second game of the Stanley Cup Finals and there's a rocket to launch. We got it covered.

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: wannamoonbase on 06/01/2017 01:53 PM
So there are quite a few launches stacking up for the next 36 hours......have Chris and you all be fully prepared for all these rockets covfefe yet?  ;)

Yes sir. We'll have live covfefe of all three. We have the best covfefe here, so great, unlike the failing fake news nasaspaceflight.org. Those guys are terrible. #SoSad

Here's to a yuge month of launches from bigly companies like SpaceX and the rest.

Covfefe for all!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JazzFan on 06/01/2017 05:52 PM
Old saying, what goes up.............
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/01/2017 07:07 PM
....unless it lasts more than four hours. Then you should consult a physician.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 06/01/2017 09:08 PM
The SpaceX "weather modification network" (patent pending) might come in handy right now... :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 06/01/2017 09:46 PM
I wish they would wash their rockets the night before and not on launch days.
These scrubs are tiresome. ::)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 06/01/2017 09:51 PM
a clean rocket is a dirty shame. In this context
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: DaveJ576 on 06/01/2017 09:54 PM
Dang. What a bunch of weenies. Scrub due to lightning. Gene Kranz and Pete Conrad would have said go!  :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 06/01/2017 10:02 PM
Well, I am off Saturday, and we have a launch scheduled.....looks like road trip time!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 06/02/2017 12:05 AM
Dang. What a bunch of weenies. Scrub due to lightning. Gene Kranz and Pete Conrad would have said go!  :)
I'd like to think they wouldn't.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: llanitedave on 06/02/2017 02:55 AM
Dang. What a bunch of weenies. Scrub due to lightning. Gene Kranz and Pete Conrad would have said go!  :)
I'd like to think they wouldn't.

Just need to be ready to set SCE to Aux.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachS09 on 06/02/2017 03:39 AM
Dang. What a bunch of weenies. Scrub due to lightning. Gene Kranz and Pete Conrad would have said go!  :)

Gene Kranz was not Flight Director during the launch of Apollo 12. Gerry Griffin held that position.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 06/02/2017 04:11 AM
Dang. What a bunch of weenies. Scrub due to lightning. Gene Kranz and Pete Conrad would have said go!  :)
I'd like to think they wouldn't.

Just need to be ready to set SCE to Aux.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: pathfinder_01 on 06/02/2017 06:34 AM
Elon would get to Mars faster if he would put more resources into that weather controling machine on his secret volcanic island....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Semmel on 06/02/2017 06:52 AM
The problem with that weather machine is, that it can only make the weather more turbulent, but not calmer.. To make it calm would require a chaos inversion capacitor. Which in turn needs the capability of connecting to the supreme and inferior energy grid simultaneously. We simply don't have that yet, even the Culture regards such technology as excession.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 06/02/2017 07:01 AM
Nah, just reverse the polarity of the neutron flow!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dodo on 06/02/2017 11:43 AM
I've always said that the Gulf of Mexico needs a large matrix of interconnected pipes to reduce pressure gradients from incoming air masses. (What that's gonna do to the global climate, that's another story.)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jet Black on 06/02/2017 03:28 PM
The problem with that weather machine is, that it can only make the weather more turbulent, but not calmer.. To make it calm would require a chaos inversion capacitor. Which in turn needs the capability of connecting to the supreme and inferior energy grid simultaneously. We simply don't have that yet, even the Culture regards such technology as excession.

If that is the case, then all you have to do is run the machine backwards in time.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Craftyatom on 06/02/2017 07:15 PM
The problem with that weather machine is, that it can only make the weather more turbulent, but not calmer.. To make it calm would require a chaos inversion capacitor. Which in turn needs the capability of connecting to the supreme and inferior energy grid simultaneously. We simply don't have that yet, even the Culture regards such technology as excession.

Perhaps, by pumping enough energy into the weather, we could make it so chaotic that the time between good and bad weather is less than the time it takes lightning to strike!  Problem solved!

Good thing Dragon has a heat shield, because it'd be sitting in high-mach winds...  which isn't a term you get to use often!

If that is the case, then all you have to do is run the machine backwards in time.

We know this is possible because Elon originally announced that Falcon Heavy would fly in 2012 - ever since, he has clearly been deflecting until development is finished, at which point he will send the design back in time to the ancient year 2011.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dgates on 06/03/2017 04:56 AM
Poor little mousetronauts.  Don't HAVE the measles, not gonna get the measles.  The backup mice are pretty happy though.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/03/2017 06:39 PM
If NROL-76 was meant to deploy sharks with frickin lasers, Elon would have not resigned from Trump's advisory council.

Just saying, we can cross that option off the list.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: sghill on 06/03/2017 09:16 PM
"Rocket bees" tm

You heard it here first.
:)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 06/03/2017 09:16 PM
eXcellent!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Eerie on 06/03/2017 09:25 PM
"Rocket bees" tm

You heard it here first.
:)

"Space Wasps", actually. And they first graced the very first Falcon 9 launch.

See here, at 1:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxSxgBKlYws
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: pstephens on 06/03/2017 09:39 PM
very first Falcon 9 launch.

Wow, that rocket is so tiny!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: DecoLV on 06/03/2017 10:02 PM
Anyone else notice this frame hiccup at about T+90? My heart skipped a beat! LOL
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/03/2017 10:57 PM
Who needs Cristiano Ronaldo (*) when there's SpaceX? On this side of the Earth I very unfortunately overslept for the Champions League Final (#) but it was right on time to watch this Dragon going up. Phew!

(*) A certain, um, soccer player
(#) Some kind of, um, soccer game watched by a lot of people
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 06/03/2017 11:24 PM
Anyone else notice this frame hiccup at about T+90? My heart skipped a beat! LOL

"It appears we've had an anomaly. The Falcon 9 has pixelated."
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 06/03/2017 11:43 PM
Does anyone know what that boat was doing just offshore at liftoff?
Watching the launch like everyone else?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 06/04/2017 12:06 AM
Astromice report "zero g and we feel fine"...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Norm38 on 06/04/2017 12:58 AM
Here's a fun question. It took 50 years (1967-2017) for 39A to get to 100 launches.
How many years for the next 100?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Craftyatom on 06/04/2017 02:17 AM
Here's a fun question. It took 50 years (1967-2017) for 39A to get to 100 launches.
How many years for the next 100?
Between Iridium NEXT 1 and now, there have been 6 flights (CRS-10, Echostar 23, SES-10, NROl-76, Inmarsat 5, CRS-11) in 141 days, all from the same pad, or one flight every 23.5 days.  So, 100 flights would require 2350 days, suggesting that the 200th flight from Pad 39A will be on Thursday, November 9, 2023.  However, if no weather or technical issues ever occurred, and SpaceX matched their record (so far) of a 14-day turnaround every time, they could hit 200 by Saturday, April 3, 2021.

Of course, the pad being taken offline for 40-60 days or more in preparation for Falcon Heavy might push it to the right - but then, increased launch cadence might push it to the left (and also, once LC-40 is online, 39A might become a bit less popular).  Also, it has been speculated that Elon wants ITS flying by 2022, which could have quite an impact on launch cadence (maybe increasing it, but probably decreasing).  Then again, Elon's timetable is also known to defy standard time conventions, and thus such analysis is well-suited for the party thread.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/04/2017 11:05 AM
Crafty, I think you just kicked a hornets nest ;-)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 06/05/2017 01:20 PM
Hans (SpaceX): Very happy.  Thanks NASA for cargo. Pad team worked awesome.  Dragon team working hard now.  Thanks to 45th Space Wing and Air Force.  Special thanks and shout out to good weather.

Yeah whatevs. They didn't recover the fairings...  :)

(grin, Duck, RUN!!!!)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ben the Space Brit on 06/05/2017 06:37 PM
Welcome back to the ISS, Dragon C106!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: pathfinder_01 on 06/05/2017 09:02 PM
And the Dragon came back, the very next day..the Dragon came back they thought it was a gonner and the Dragon came back..He just couldn't stay away
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: DecoLV on 06/07/2017 01:21 AM
So, today's big news was about SpaceX flying the X-37B for the USAF in August. When that news got out today, I also heard some "unofficial news" got out as well, the cargo the vehicle carries. While not confirmed at all by sources, I hear ...
-- X-37B is manned
-- the cargo bay for X-37B carries a Gemini spacecraft. At least the re-entry module of a Gemini spacecraft.

Here is how I think it works: when on orbit, two pilots climb down into the cargo bay where the Gemini is. They take a hammer and smash a hole in the heat shield, and climb inside. When the bay doors open, so do the Gemini doors. The astronauts then use Kodak Super 8mm film cameras to take pictures. So, the X-37B actually is....the MOL! At end of mission, the pilots use the ejection seats to return to earth, landing on parachutes (or perhaps personal methane prop landing rockets) and the Gemini is jettisoned.

 ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/07/2017 02:06 AM
You know, Gemini did not need a LAS.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 06/07/2017 06:21 AM
So, today's big news was about SpaceX flying the X-37B for the USAF in August. When that news got out today, I also heard some "unofficial news" got out as well, the cargo the vehicle carries. While not confirmed at all by sources, I hear ...
-- X-37B is manned
-- the cargo bay for X-37B carries a Gemini spacecraft. At least the re-entry module of a Gemini spacecraft.

Here is how I think it works: when on orbit, two pilots climb down into the cargo bay where the Gemini is. They take a hammer and smash a hole in the heat shield, and climb inside. When the bay doors open, so do the Gemini doors. The astronauts then use Kodak Super 8mm film cameras to take pictures. So, the X-37B actually is....the MOL! At end of mission, the pilots use the ejection seats to return to earth, landing on parachutes (or perhaps personal methane prop landing rockets) and the Gemini is jettisoned.

 ;D
The sad thing is: there are places in the Internet where that scenario would be taken literally.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/07/2017 10:33 AM
The sad thing is: there are places in the Internet where that scenario would be taken literally.
What, and the CRS-11 first stage recovery kicking up two sheets of plywood is not proof enough that it is not all an elaborate sound stage?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: gospacex on 06/07/2017 12:39 PM
What happened to stalwart warriors of Truth, fighters against corporate and government lies?
Where are "CRS-11 is sooo fake" videos on youtube?? It's four days now, and not a single video yet...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JasonAW3 on 06/07/2017 01:11 PM
Astromice report "zero g and we feel fine"...

How did you translate that from "Squeak Squeak"?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Norm38 on 06/07/2017 01:21 PM
^^^ Google Translate, of course.  Mice are in the new beta.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 06/07/2017 02:59 PM
^^^ Google Translate, of course.  Mice are in the new beta.

I find that hard to swallow.

European mice or African mice???

ALSO ... brings new meaning to the notion of high (pitched) beta impacting ISS operations.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JasonAW3 on 06/07/2017 04:44 PM
Oooo... I hope that they don't impact the ISS... That could be messy!!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 06/08/2017 01:03 AM
The History Channel: Making of the SpaceX booster return hoax.  'They used a very large flaming boosterang'
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 06/08/2017 12:46 PM
[ULAlaunch coverage]... is about as exciting and awe-inspiring as watch paint dry.
You don't watch enough of them, then. They have shown video of spacecraft separation in the past.

Jim speaks truth!!!! You can NEVER watch too many launches! Amirite?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachS09 on 06/08/2017 01:45 PM
[ULAlaunch coverage]... is about as exciting and awe-inspiring as watch paint dry.
You don't watch enough of them, then. They have shown video of spacecraft separation in the past.

Jim speaks truth!!!! You can NEVER watch too many launches! Amirite?

You're never wrong, Lar.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 06/08/2017 04:55 PM
You're never wrong, Lar.

You've confused me with Jim again! I'm wrong all the time. For instance I once said you were handsome... (grin, duck run!)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dror on 06/08/2017 06:17 PM
"Rocket bees" tm

You heard it here first.
:)

"Space Wasps", actually. And they first graced the very first Falcon 9 launch.

See here, at 1:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxSxgBKlYws

This rocket has no legs !
STOP THE FLIGHT !
IT'S GOING TO CRASH !
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 06/08/2017 08:12 PM
[ULAlaunch coverage]... is about as exciting and awe-inspiring as watch paint dry.
You don't watch enough of them, then. They have shown video of spacecraft separation in the past.

Jim speaks truth!!!! You can NEVER watch too many launches! Amirite?
Totally right! I watch as many launches as I can because their interesting. And it still amazes me that this huge heavy thing can propel itself to space. Heck, I'm still amazed watching planes fly, and I'm pretty good on the physics of airplanes.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: John Alan on 06/08/2017 09:00 PM
[ULAlaunch coverage]... is about as exciting and awe-inspiring as watch paint dry.
You don't watch enough of them, then. They have shown video of spacecraft separation in the past.

Jim speaks truth!!!! You can NEVER watch too many launches! Amirite?
Totally right! I watch as many launches as I can because their interesting. And it still amazes me that this huge heavy thing can propel itself to space. Heck, I'm still amazed watching planes fly, and I'm pretty good on the physics of airplanes.
Agreed...
I watch a launch in awe of the physics involved... not just the sight and sound (which is  8) also)
The gross metric tons of prop and oxidizer being turned into useful work and waste heat at a mind boggling rate per second is what makes me  ;D ... 
You ever figure up the BTU's of waste heat per second left in a F9's wake?... mind boggling...  :o
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/09/2017 04:40 PM
Thanks goodness the person that left his calipers behind in the trunk remembered to take his lawn darts with him!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Eric Hedman on 06/09/2017 08:43 PM
Hi Res set from Gary Blair (taken from a public area...as always) going into L2 over the coming hours, but this is a big milestone, so passing on at least a preview as "Conehead" is cool.

We believe this is 1023 (formerly the leaning Tower of Thaicom-8). One of the two flight proven S1's that will be with the Falcon Heavy debut.
From the picture it looks like the guy wires are attached to some kind of ring placed over the cone.  Does the center core have attach points for the wires that the side cores don't or are covered up by the cone?

The center core (and normal F9s for that matter) have those same guy wires attach to their interstage separation mechanisms. Since the side boosters don't have those, they use that special ring solution.
if these rings have any sensors on them do they qualify as sensor rings?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KlXBQ5j18I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KlXBQ5j18I)

Beldar would be  pleased.  ;D  8)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 06/10/2017 06:32 AM
Okay, that's 55 seconds that I will never get back....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rpapo on 06/10/2017 11:03 AM
From the Falcon Heavy discussion thread:

Th east coast of Florida is a major nesting area for the Loggerhead, and also significant nesting of Greens take place here. Maybe some Ridleys.  A lot of activity in Florida revolves around their cycle and the legal testrictions now in place for their protection.

And I'm sure they are frequently at "loggerheads" with the "Greens".
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: S.Paulissen on 06/10/2017 08:03 PM
Quote
I spy with my @SpaceX eye DragonEye.

https://twitter.com/spacekscblog/status/873560947285254144 (https://twitter.com/spacekscblog/status/873560947285254144)

Fixed that for them.  Come ON FST, get with it!  THIS IS A SPACEX THREAD.  >:[

*from bulgariasat thread*

http://www.spacex.com/press/2012/12/19/spacexs-dragoneye-navigation-sensor-successfully-demonstrated-space-shuttle
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 06/11/2017 01:35 AM

That said, the video of the fairing separating from the X-37B would be awesome.

Done to "Also sprach Zarathustra"?

I think blue danube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muPNlnm_i44
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 06/11/2017 01:36 AM
actually this one is better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyjOjT8d8RI
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Pete on 06/11/2017 05:54 AM
actually this one is better


Oh dear.. I had hoped to do something productive today, but now you are *forcing* me to watch this masterpiece again.

The mindboggling thing is, this movie is old. *ancient* even. It is actually 2 months older than I am!
And still it is a more accurate portrayal of spaceflight than any of the modern movies. Gravity, anyone? How about some Interstellar gravity?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jcc on 06/11/2017 03:40 PM
actually this one is better


Oh dear.. I had hoped to do something productive today, but now you are *forcing* me to watch this masterpiece again.

The mindboggling thing is, this movie is old. *ancient* even. It is actually 2 months older than I am!
And still it is a more accurate portrayal of spaceflight than any of the modern movies. Gravity, anyone? How about some Interstellar gravity?

The only bit that seems inaccurate is the idea of attempting to walk upright in zero g. Up to this point everyone just flies around and doesn't bother wearing shoes. Maybe ITS can "fix" that by enforcing corridors to walk and inventing "grip shoes" that work as God and Kubrick intended.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: IntoTheVoid on 06/11/2017 05:42 PM
actually this one is better


Oh dear.. I had hoped to do something productive today, but now you are *forcing* me to watch this masterpiece again.

The mindboggling thing is, this movie is old. *ancient* even. It is actually 2 months older than I am!
And still it is a more accurate portrayal of spaceflight than any of the modern movies. Gravity, anyone? How about some Interstellar gravity?

The only bit that seems inaccurate is the idea of attempting to walk upright in zero g. Up to this point everyone just flies around and doesn't bother wearing shoes. Maybe ITS can "fix" that by enforcing corridors to walk and inventing "grip shoes" that work as God and Kubrick intended.

What's to invent? Use pile carpet on the 'floor' and velcro soles on your sneakers.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 06/11/2017 05:49 PM
actually this one is better


Oh dear.. I had hoped to do something productive today, but now you are *forcing* me to watch this masterpiece again.

The mindboggling thing is, this movie is old. *ancient* even. It is actually 2 months older than I am!
And still it is a more accurate portrayal of spaceflight than any of the modern movies. Gravity, anyone? How about some Interstellar gravity?

The only bit that seems inaccurate is the idea of attempting to walk upright in zero g. Up to this point everyone just flies around and doesn't bother wearing shoes. Maybe ITS can "fix" that by enforcing corridors to walk and inventing "grip shoes" that work as God and Kubrick intended.
That and space liners would never fly with an empty flight like that. They'd have it overbooked ten ways to Sunday with a survival of the fittest scrum in the loading area.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: pstephens on 06/11/2017 06:12 PM
That and space liners would never fly with an empty flight like that.

Space liners of the future will be navigated by computers rather than by two pilots as in Kubrick's vision.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mme on 06/11/2017 06:35 PM
Okay, that's 55 seconds that I will never get back....
Isn't that the very definition of of a party thread?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: meekGee on 06/11/2017 08:18 PM
actually this one is better


Oh dear.. I had hoped to do something productive today, but now you are *forcing* me to watch this masterpiece again.

The mindboggling thing is, this movie is old. *ancient* even. It is actually 2 months older than I am!
And still it is a more accurate portrayal of spaceflight than any of the modern movies. Gravity, anyone? How about some Interstellar gravity?

The only bit that seems inaccurate is the idea of attempting to walk upright in zero g. Up to this point everyone just flies around and doesn't bother wearing shoes. Maybe ITS can "fix" that by enforcing corridors to walk and inventing "grip shoes" that work as God and Kubrick intended.
That and space liners would never fly with an empty flight like that. They'd have it overbooked ten ways to Sunday with a survival of the fittest scrum in the loading area.
That was the point in the book - that it was sooo classified, he got a private flight, otherwise unheard of.

Like the feds clearing up the freeway for someone in a recent movie...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: meekGee on 06/11/2017 08:19 PM
That and space liners would never fly with an empty flight like that.

Space liners of the future will be navigated by computers rather than by two pilots as in Kubrick's vision.
That's right!

And video payphones.....


I mean video calls, ok.  But they missed the whole phone-in-your- pocket thing..
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: meekGee on 06/11/2017 08:22 PM
That and space liners would never fly with an empty flight like that.

Space liners of the future will be navigated by computers rather than by two pilots as in Kubrick's vision.
That's right!

And video payphones.....


I mean video calls, ok.  But they missed the whole phone-in-your- pocket thing..
But yeah, an absolute masterpiece.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 06/11/2017 08:25 PM
That and space liners would never fly with an empty flight like that.

Space liners of the future will be navigated by computers rather than by two pilots as in Kubrick's vision.
That's right!

And video payphones.....


I mean video calls, ok.  But they missed the whole phone-in-your- pocket thing..
They missed the computer a few orders of magnitude faster than HAL in your pocket...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rpapo on 06/11/2017 08:25 PM
I mean video calls, ok.  But they missed the whole phone-in-your- pocket thing..
Star Trek previewed the flip-phone just a year or two earlier.  Now they're passe...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: pstephens on 06/11/2017 08:47 PM
Star Trek previewed the flip-phone just a year or two earlier.  Now they're passe...

We still don't have transporters or warp drives yet. And we haven't yet sent a crewed mission to Jupiter.

Plenty of things left to aspire to.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 06/11/2017 09:46 PM
Musk said it would be something crazy. If not cheese related, it is likely Pythonesque.

"Nooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!"
Wouldn't that require a crew Dragon capsule? I thought we had ruled out the dragon-on-FH-demo idea because it needs a fairing for qualifying the flight for the AF.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 06/11/2017 09:49 PM
I mean video calls, ok.  But they missed the whole phone-in-your- pocket thing..
Star Trek previewed the flip-phone just a year or two earlier.  Now they're passe...
Yes, but now we've moved on to the TNG-inspired smartphones and tablets based on the P.A.D.D.  Trek has shaped so much of our technological present and continues to do so.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 06/12/2017 01:12 AM
2001 had ipads first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ8pQVDyaLo
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Craftyatom on 06/12/2017 03:09 AM
actually this one is better


Oh dear.. I had hoped to do something productive today, but now you are *forcing* me to watch this masterpiece again.

The mindboggling thing is, this movie is old. *ancient* even. It is actually 2 months older than I am!
And still it is a more accurate portrayal of spaceflight than any of the modern movies. Gravity, anyone? How about some Interstellar gravity?

The only bit that seems inaccurate is the idea of attempting to walk upright in zero g. Up to this point everyone just flies around and doesn't bother wearing shoes. Maybe ITS can "fix" that by enforcing corridors to walk and inventing "grip shoes" that work as God and Kubrick intended.
That and space liners would never fly with an empty flight like that. They'd have it overbooked ten ways to Sunday with a survival of the fittest scrum in the loading area.
Ooh, I bet networks would pay decent money for footage of a good pre-boarding scrum, especially if some people bought bodyguard partners to increase their chances.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/12/2017 09:47 AM
Okay, that's 55 seconds that I will never get back....
Isn't that the very definition of of a party thread?
That would be a mighty short party.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 06/13/2017 02:35 AM


Must said it would be something crazy. If not cheese related, it is likely Pythonesque.

"Fetchez le vache!"
Musk said they want to try getting the upper stage back, so no GEO insertion or escape trajectory burns. They could do a GTO or even lunar free return and get the stage back at perigee, depending how long it can last on orbit and whether it can do deep space nav and comms.

They could send an inflatable or other model of a cow - though, how much does a dead cow mass? - on a lunar free return. That way, a cow really would have jumped over the moon. (They might even be able to fit on a (model) cat, a fiddle, a small (model) dog, a dish and a spoon for the sake of completeness.) :)

Is the cow spherical?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 06/13/2017 02:41 AM
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Is the cow spherical?

I'm considering.....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 06/13/2017 04:30 PM
Had to pop in, very tired (but happy) after a different kind of party:
(https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims3/GLOB/crop/2368x1556+967+486/resize/1028x675!/format/jpg/quality/85/http%3A%2F%2Fo.aolcdn.com%2Fhss%2Fstorage%2Fmidas%2F2164bde4664d79be435d915ac47fb428%2F205372398%2Fthe-golden-state-warriors-are-pictured-after-winning-the-nba-in-game-picture-id695398898)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 06/13/2017 06:44 PM
I really think that people need to take some sort of chill pill about this matter. If the X-37B could not fit, comfortably and with safety margin, inside the Falcon-9's PLF, then this launch would not be happening.

My personal nightmare, arrived at by splicing several recent NSF conversations and my own sleep-deprived imagination:

Calipers, specially crafted in a secret laboratory from ice IX, and secretly in the employ of SPECTRE, stow away inside the payload fairing on the OTV-5 flight...

Then, after achieving orbit, the precision instrument single-calipered-ly seizes control of the X-37B, in an attempt to hold the world hostage for *pinkie finger to lips* ONE MILLION DOLLARS!

:D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/13/2017 11:37 PM
Saddened that they don't seem to appreciate talking about lunch in the discussion threads? Oh well, time to grab some rocket fuel and hunker down for tonight's attempt at lunch. Sixth times a charm I guess.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 06/14/2017 12:40 AM
Saddened that they don't seem to appreciate talking about lunch in the discussion threads? Oh well, time to grab some rocket fuel and hunker down for tonight's attempt at lunch. Sixth times a charm I guess.
This is strictly a re-lunch thread. If you aren't skiving out to take a personal lunch after a company/employer lunch so you can watch a launch, this thread isn't for you.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JasonAW3 on 06/14/2017 03:41 AM
Saddened that they don't seem to appreciate talking about lunch in the discussion threads? Oh well, time to grab some rocket fuel and hunker down for tonight's attempt at lunch. Sixth times a charm I guess.
This is strictly a re-lunch thread. If you aren't skiving out to take a personal lunch after a company/employer lunch so you can watch a launch, this thread isn't for you.

Sometimes I have a serious failure to lunch.  I get piled up with projects, and my lunch window is missed.  Of course I typically will try to catch a launch at lunch, if there is one...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 06/14/2017 03:46 AM
Saddened that they don't seem to appreciate talking about lunch in the discussion threads? Oh well, time to grab some rocket fuel and hunker down for tonight's attempt at lunch. Sixth times a charm I guess.
This is strictly a re-lunch thread. If you aren't skiving out to take a personal lunch after a company/employer lunch so you can watch a launch, this thread isn't for you.

Sometimes I have a serious failure to lunch.  I get piled up with projects, and my lunch window is missed.  Of course I typically will try to catch a launch at lunch, if there is one...
Yes, I agree. One should generally maintain an even ratio between scrubbed lunches and rapid re-lunches in order to maintain general sanity and continued gainful employment.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: IntoTheVoid on 06/15/2017 10:53 AM
"June 15: NICER executes initial pointing control test and detector initial checkout."

It's amazing that they let us put MLRS on the ISS, and ironic that they called it NICER.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/15/2017 12:47 PM
Had to pop in, very tired (but happy) after a different kind of party:



Congrats!  8)

As was one of the responses when I got over excited and posted off topic on our Twitter feed...

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/866280162366820352

"GO SPORTS!" ;D

(And we won that game 3-2, so a good day was had by all) :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Norm38 on 06/15/2017 02:27 PM
They missed the computer a few orders of magnitude faster than HAL in your pocket...

Are they though?  We don't really know how many teraflops (or whatever) HAL is capable of.  Is my phone faster by raw speed?  Maybe.  But have you tried having a conversation with Siri?  Computers aren't anywhere close to HAL.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 06/15/2017 07:43 PM
They missed the computer a few orders of magnitude faster than HAL in your pocket...

Are they though?  We don't really know how many teraflops (or whatever) HAL is capable of.  Is my phone faster by raw speed?  Maybe.  But have you tried having a conversation with Siri?  Computers aren't anywhere close to HAL.

They should create a mod for Siri that sounds like HAL.  (*)  < big red eye.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 06/15/2017 07:47 PM
They missed the computer a few orders of magnitude faster than HAL in your pocket...

Are they though?  We don't really know how many teraflops (or whatever) HAL is capable of.  Is my phone faster by raw speed?  Maybe.  But have you tried having a conversation with Siri?  Computers aren't anywhere close to HAL.

They should create a mod for Siri that sounds like HAL.  (*)  < big red eye.

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 06/16/2017 08:15 AM
Saddened that they don't seem to appreciate talking about lunch in the discussion threads? Oh well, time to grab some rocket fuel and hunker down for tonight's attempt at lunch. Sixth times a charm I guess.
This is strictly a re-lunch thread. If you aren't skiving out to take a personal lunch after a company/employer lunch so you can watch a launch, this thread isn't for you.

Sometimes I have a serious failure to lunch.  I get piled up with projects, and my lunch window is missed.  Of course I typically will try to catch a launch at lunch, if there is one...
The worst is recycling.  I hate recycling my lunches!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/16/2017 10:08 AM
Some days, your co-workers insist on an alternative lunch provider after you have prepared your lunch. So you just scrub, recycle, and try again in 24hrs.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/16/2017 02:26 PM
PS per a report to mod (correctly done), I've made this thread sticky....not because it's a flagship thread - it certainly isn't one of those! - but I agree that seeing it bumping up and down page 1 of this section is a bit distracting.

No posts or threads were harmed in the making of this mov...e ;D

Looks a bit more tidy now:
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 06/17/2017 01:35 AM
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Looks a bit more tidy now:

If it looks tidy, we aren't partying hard enough!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JasonAW3 on 06/17/2017 11:21 AM
Quote
Looks a bit more tidy now:

If it looks tidy, we aren't partying hard enough!

I've heard it said that science is rarely tidy!  And neither are parties!

I mean, just look at our political parties!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 06/17/2017 06:12 PM
Downer alert!!!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JasonAW3 on 06/17/2017 06:46 PM
Downer alert!!!!

Not really...  Have you ever bedn to one of their actual celebration parties?  They get pretty wild!

Or, to paraphrase how the British aristocracy would put it,"So uncivilized and untidy..."
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: landlubber on 06/17/2017 07:03 PM


Must said it would be something crazy. If not cheese related, it is likely Pythonesque.

"Fetchez le vache!"
Musk said they want to try getting the upper stage back, so no GEO insertion or escape trajectory burns. They could do a GTO or even lunar free return and get the stage back at perigee, depending how long it can last on orbit and whether it can do deep space nav and comms.

They could send an inflatable or other model of a cow - though, how much does a dead cow mass? - on a lunar free return. That way, a cow really would have jumped over the moon. (They might even be able to fit on a (model) cat, a fiddle, a small (model) dog, a dish and a spoon for the sake of completeness.) :)

Is the cow spherical?

Oblate spheroid with legs.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 06/18/2017 03:53 PM
...I've made this thread sticky....not because it's a flagship thread - it certainly isn't one of those!

Au contraire....
its THE most important mission thread by its placement at the TOP!
Besides humor makes the world go round and is apparently required
in order to launch rockets successfully. 
 ::)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 06/18/2017 03:59 PM
Downer alert!!!!

Not really...  Have you ever bedn to one of their actual celebration parties?  They get pretty wild!

Or, to paraphrase how the British aristocracy would put it,"So uncivilized and untidy..."
They probably said the same thing about the American Colonials in 1776... ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JasonAW3 on 06/18/2017 04:37 PM
Yeah, pretty much...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 06/18/2017 10:39 PM
PS per a report to mod (correctly done), I've made this thread sticky....not because it's a flagship thread - it certainly isn't one of those! - but I agree that seeing it bumping up and down page 1 of this section is a bit distracting.

No posts or threads were harmed in the making of this mov...e ;D

Looks a bit more tidy now:
I didn't think to look up there, so it took me quite a while to actually find the thread.  I had to use my browser's text search for "party".   :-[

In other news, I feel like the ROSA team missed out on an awesome opportunity to get sued for copyright infringement in perhaps the coolest way ever.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/19/2017 04:20 PM
I don't know what the Russians have in their minds, but apparently they are scheduling right now (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43064.msg1691701#msg1691701) the launch of the YouCanKnowWhatThatIsButIWillHaveToShootYou satellite (I've no idea how to spell that in Cyrillic) with the 3rd infamously NK-33 powered Soyuz-2.1v at T-5:21 of the count of Bulgariasat-1, if everything holds on for the next 98 hours.

Does anybody here knows what does that meant?  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/20/2017 05:22 PM
That moment when the party thread is no longer at the top of the sticky notes. Must restore balance to the sticky notes!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Swoopert on 06/21/2017 11:42 AM
That moment when the party thread is no longer at the top of the sticky notes. Must restore balance to the sticky notes!

And again, most bumpy of bumps to raise this thread like the TEL! Manifest discussions will not defeat us!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mme on 06/22/2017 03:16 AM
I was just looking at the manifest thread and there are only two launches scheduled for SpaceX in July. ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/23/2017 11:54 AM
I don't know what the Russians have in their minds, but apparently they are scheduling right now (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43064.msg1691701#msg1691701) the launch of the YouCanKnowWhatThatIsButIWillHaveToShootYou satellite (I've no idea how to spell that in Cyrillic) with the 3rd infamously NK-33 powered Soyuz-2.1v at T-5:21 of the count of Bulgariasat-1, if everything holds on for the next 98 hours.

Does anybody here knows what does that meant?  ;)

Putin et. al. had clarified that the time is now scheduled at T-5:27.  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 06/23/2017 04:12 PM
Since this flight has an unprecedented Bulgarian connection I felt that it might best be served with a blessing for success by a crowd of holy homeboys. They weren't all that interested until I told them it would improve reception of their favorite French soap opera. Spiritual best wishes for success were quickly and heartily bestowed.

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 06/23/2017 05:29 PM
Is that Gandalf on the third row?   ::)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 06/23/2017 06:53 PM
The funky music had a good jam today..
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 06/23/2017 07:15 PM
A fair amount of what looks like debris drifting to the upper right of the screen.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 06/23/2017 07:16 PM
Ice sheets?  Engines just ignited for entry burn successfully.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 06/23/2017 07:21 PM
Is that Gandalf on the third row?   ::)

I doubt it. Gandalf looked much younger than that.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JasonAW3 on 06/23/2017 07:21 PM
Came REAL close to missing the ship entirely!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Doesitfloat on 06/23/2017 07:24 PM
Engines seemed to be burning over water and then we get this image!
So the Falcon Brown pants Landing left some skid marks... :o

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 06/23/2017 07:32 PM
Came REAL close to missing the ship entirely!
For a 3-engine landing burn, not having to replace the deck again seems like it'd mean a miss could be at least a partial win -- at least enough to endlessly debate on forums how we should count it.  :P
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 06/23/2017 07:38 PM
The gymnast Falconnia Stuck the hard landing, earning 6.2 from the Russian judge
but they always score lower than the other judges.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JasonAW3 on 06/23/2017 07:42 PM
I think they're going to have to replace the engines, as it looks like the hit the deck.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 06/23/2017 07:50 PM
Okay, I managed to *barely* avoid an out-of-context quip in the Discussion thread, but hey, that's why this is here, eh?

You are doing it wrong. Lines are NOT straight at all in this lens. Or do you think the ocean is curved?

Well, actually, yeah.  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 06/23/2017 07:58 PM
I attempted to up the contrast on the engines to see how close they got to the deck.  Still hard to be sure.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 06/23/2017 07:58 PM
Okay, I managed to *barely* avoid an out-of-context quip in the Discussion thread, but hey, that's why this is here, eh?

You are doing it wrong. Lines are NOT straight at all in this lens. Or do you think the ocean is curved?

Well, actually, yeah.  ;D

Was working up to a "see, the earth is flat and it is all a conspiracy" comment. I guess that's all I've got.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/23/2017 07:59 PM
That surge when the booster landed. Crazy. Was like Black Friday at opening hour ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mchoudoir on 06/23/2017 08:02 PM
I attempted to up the contrast on the engines to see how close they got to the deck.  Still hard to be sure.

I would guess the legs are designed so that at the max limit of the emergency crush cores the engine bells would be off the deck.  Elon said they used "almost" all of the crush core, so I would be surprised if the bells hit.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 06/23/2017 08:11 PM
That surge when the booster landed. Crazy. Was like Black Friday at opening hour ;D

"That surge when the booster landed.  Crazy."  Yeah, it looked like a wave hit broadside just before the feed cut out.

"Was like Black Friday at opening hour ;D"  That's a strange metaphor for waves on the -- oh, *that* kind of surge!  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 06/23/2017 11:05 PM
Quote
Was working up to a "see, the earth is flat and it is all a conspiracy" comment. I guess that's all I've got.

Well, it's either flat or hollow.  You can't have it both ways!  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Aerospace Dilettante on 06/24/2017 12:06 AM
Came REAL close to missing the ship entirely!
For a 3-engine landing burn, not having to replace the deck again seems like it'd mean a miss could be at least a partial win -- at least enough to endlessly debate on forums how we should count it.  :P

I can't wait to see the landing footage, considering what we saw the exhaust doing to the ocean surface, it's got to be real sporty!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Bob Shaw on 06/24/2017 12:12 AM
Geometrically Corrected landing image. Not so tilty after all!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 06/24/2017 07:25 AM
I like how we argue over what the stage looks like after landing which used to be a view only fishes used to have... I guess they did the same... ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 06/24/2017 11:52 AM
I like how we argue over what the stage looks like after landing which used to be a view only fishes used to have... I guess they did the same... ;D

You think *we* have fun discussions about used rockets being straight or not?  Underwater, it's all fisheye, all the time!  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 06/24/2017 12:49 PM
I like how we argue over what the stage looks like after landing which used to be a view only fishes used to have... I guess they did the same... ;D

You think *we* have fun discussions about used rockets being straight or not?  Underwater, it's all fisheye, all the time!  ;D
Yeah, I hear those "Great Whites" are as fussy as "Russian judges" about sticking the landing on the ocean floor, or at least that's what ULA says...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JazzFan on 06/24/2017 01:55 PM
I like how we argue over what the stage looks like after landing which used to be a view only fishes used to have... I guess they did the same... ;D

You think *we* have fun discussions about used rockets being straight or not?  Underwater, it's all fisheye, all the time!  ;D
Yeah, I hear those "Great Whites" are as fussy as "Russian judges" about sticking the landing on the ocean floor, or at least that's what ULA says...

Just gotta wonder which type of fish or mammal won the landing bingo?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/24/2017 02:02 PM
I would guess an octopus. They seem to have the needed deep understanding of eight leg octowebs.

Plus they are pretty good at predicting football matches.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/24/2017 02:06 PM
So apparently there is now a clothing optional lunch location. According to the updates, Playlinda was open for the lunch.

That should get the party moving.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/25/2017 12:13 PM
Can't wait for the lunch. I hear a new waffle recipe is going to be used during bingo!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 06/25/2017 02:29 PM
This being a California launch on Sunday I undertook to seek spiritual support from Maria's Hippie Church and Taco Stand. Several prayers were offered for the excellent guacamole and a groovy launch.



Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mme on 06/25/2017 06:20 PM
I believe the term is "talons"...

Hi res closeup of new grid fins.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVxWVmelhKG/?hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/p/BVxWVmelhKG/?hl=en)

They basically look... Grid Fin Claws!  :P
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Apollo-phill on 06/25/2017 07:26 PM
Just returned from a fantastic afternoon orchestral concert called "Space Spectacular" played by London Symphony Orchestra with famous Conductor Anthony Inglis  held at Symphony Hall,Birmingham,UK .

This being SpaceX double header weekend this was just the icing on the cake for me as it featured themes from Star Wars, ET , Close Encounters, 2001, Superman , Planet Suite (Jupiter and Mars) and Independence Day. Fantastic being played by a live almost full concert orchestra .

The Conductor , just before playing Close Encounters theme , came on dressed as a Jedi warrior ! He then had the whole audience ( around 2,250 people sat in several tiered levels as well as ground floor) singing the " famous" 5-note theme ( la- la- la-la- la) with top tier doing first " la ", next tier down  ,the second " la" and so on down with ground floor doing last " la". Ending up with all tiers singing the whole theme. It was SO,SO incredible ( a little like the Indian crowd scene chanting the theme in film ) and had to be there to assimilate the pure momentous moment ! Really uplifting !

For final encore, orchestra played Superman theme with Conductor Anthony Inglis entering into spirit by wearing a Superman logo t-shirt under formal wear ! Again , he had audience practising ripping make believe shirt off to reveal logo underneath and then trying fit underpants over top of logo ! Hilarious watching 2,250 people trying do this but, oh so, so great getting everyone in mood to hear the final encore.

Throughout the concert - besides being reminded of the various film scenes - I could also visualise the amazing spatial explorations we  human beings have made since October 1957 and recalling SpaceX Falcon 9 flight on Friday and today's upcoming launch from VAFB.

If the Jedi' s, ET' s and other assorted " aliens" are 'out there' - hang on, we' re coming - to join the galactic party ! We'll be the ones singing, whistling, dancing and generally ecstatically whooping that we made it into the cosmos around and beyond our planet !

Rock on Tommy !


Apollo-phill
UK




and for final piece ( the Superman theme ) wore  a Superman t- shirt under his formal suit !

He even had the whole auditorium play acting
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 06/25/2017 08:05 PM
I like the new "bear claws" grid fins! 8)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 06/25/2017 08:35 PM
A perfect landing on J24RTI !!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 06/25/2017 09:04 PM
"s2 is over the penquins"

Let's hope they dont have a hidden volcano lair.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 06/25/2017 09:07 PM
The "beasty" is so tall that for a sec I said "wait, why are we in a hover" when we had already touched down... ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 06/25/2017 09:13 PM
The "You can only like something every 120 seconds" rule is just bloody silly!! >:(
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 06/25/2017 09:32 PM
...I mean some of us can read very quickly various posts and even multiple threads.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JAFO on 06/25/2017 09:38 PM
So much lens flare in the deployment video I thought I was watching a JJ Abrams movie.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 06/25/2017 09:48 PM
I like the new "bear claws" grid fins! 8)

They are very clearly "falcon talons".  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 06/25/2017 09:52 PM
I like the new "bear claws" grid fins! 8)

They are very clearly "falcon talons".  ;)
Aw, get a grip... ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 06/26/2017 04:59 AM
So is "SpaceX Manifest Table Formatting Discussion (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43214.0)" the antithesis of the party thread? It takes the most boring discussion on the forums and isolates it. Smart. Now if there was only a way to hide threads so I'm not tempted to look at new posts...

Now, back to comparing animal appendages to titanium rocket parts.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: NX-0 on 06/26/2017 04:06 PM
What time is tomorrow's launch?
We are on an 'every-other-day' launch rate, now, right?
Right?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/26/2017 04:20 PM
What time is tomorrow's launch?
We are on an 'every-other-day' launch rate, now, right?
Right?

20:00 ZULU.

(I just wanted to type ZULU).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQrE8vOM0ss
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 06/26/2017 08:22 PM
What time is tomorrow's launch?
We are on an 'every-other-day' launch rate, now, right?
Right?
I don't know man... I'm already getting the shakes though. I should be okay though. I can quit whenever I want.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: bjornl on 06/26/2017 09:04 PM
There is a Long Methadon 5 launch in a few days to help you cope until the Intelsat 35e goes...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 06/27/2017 01:21 PM
The next big thing.. a new party thread name for the FH launch

"He is Falcon Heavy... And he's my brother"

Too soon to begin throwing around names?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 06/27/2017 03:36 PM
The next big thing.. a new party thread name for the FH launch

"He is Falcon Heavy... And he's my brother"

Too soon to begin throwing around names?
I've always thought "We like big boosters and we cannot lie" would be good for a falcon heavy party thread. I've even come up with a few lines of a lovely song by Sir Launch-a-lot called. 'Baby Got R-T-L-S'.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 06/27/2017 04:40 PM
Once ... twice...three times a falcon?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: gongora on 06/27/2017 09:49 PM
Tweet from Matt Desch (https://twitter.com/IridiumBoss/status/879790603634188288) (slightly edited):
Quote
Launch 2 picture, as Bryan, Tatiana and I watched our satellites head toward space. Hand on heart trying to manually control heart rate...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 06/27/2017 09:56 PM
The "You can only like something every 120 seconds" rule is just bloody silly!! >:(

I've petitioned that the rule be lifted. For moderators only.  So far no luck...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: jon.amos on 06/28/2017 01:26 AM
When's the next launch? It's been two days!  I NEED a launch man, I'm not addicted I just need one more the month.  Just a little one, got any Falcon 1's left in the barn?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jarnis on 06/28/2017 12:48 PM
When's the next launch? It's been two days!  I NEED a launch man, I'm not addicted I just need one more the month.  Just a little one, got any Falcon 1's left in the barn?

Sunday?

(SpaceX seems to think so. Everyone else is shaking their head and thinking they can't possibly pull off 3 launches in 9 days)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 06/28/2017 11:51 PM
Finally some technical operational schematics! ;D

https://twitter.com/abbygarrettX/status/880189564953821185

My preciousss....

(also, seasick rockets)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: catdlr on 06/29/2017 12:13 AM
The video in this thread may be appropriate here....

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43244.0
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 06/29/2017 12:19 AM
When's the next launch? It's been two days!  I NEED a launch man, I'm not addicted I just need one more the month.  Just a little one, got any Falcon 1's left in the barn?

Sunday?

(SpaceX seems to think so. Everyone else is shaking their head and thinking they can't possibly pull of 3 launches in 9 days)
We're good, as long as no one tells the rocket...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 06/29/2017 01:53 AM
Not only is OctoCrab catchy*, but naming its hardened hangout the Crab Shack (in panel four) seals the win. ;D

*Pun not intended, but it would've been had I thought of it before typing.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Johnnyhinbos on 06/29/2017 02:57 AM
Let's just hope the booster doesn't fall on it - cause then it's a Crushtacean ...! (Sorry, it's my biologist side...)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 06/29/2017 03:10 AM
The "You can only like something every 120 seconds" rule is just bloody silly!! >:(

I've petitioned that the rule be lifted. For moderators only.  So far no luck...

My big problem with the limit is that when you trigger it, it resets the clock.  So, if I accidentally like post #2 115 seconds after the first one, I have to wait another 2 minutes instead of just another 6 seconds to try again.  That is infuriating.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 06/29/2017 03:18 AM
The "You can only like something every 120 seconds" rule is just bloody silly!! >:(

I've petitioned that the rule be lifted. For moderators only.  So far no luck...

My big problem with the limit is that when you trigger it, it resets the clock.  So, if I accidentally like post #2 115 seconds after the first one, I have to wait another 2 minutes instead of just another 6 seconds to try again.  That is infuriating.
That's actually a serious complaint and is *drumroll* therefore off topic here. Try your luck in the
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=50.0 site board
or this thread
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32793
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: woods170 on 06/29/2017 07:09 AM
I posted my quip to the party thread... don't make the mods crabby by getting TOO attached to your standup jokes.

Come now Lar. Look who started this crab-fest in reply #395  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jet Black on 06/29/2017 09:41 AM
I posted my quip to the party thread... don't make the mods crabby by getting TOO attached to your standup jokes.

Come now Lar. Look who started this crab-fest in reply #395  ;)

Be careful. It's only a matter of time before an uninvolved mod gets you in a pincer movement.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rsdavis9 on 06/29/2017 11:44 AM
Graboid from tremors

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/byNSrfMU8Yw/maxresdefault.jpg
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chandonn on 06/29/2017 03:22 PM
Shouldn't each Octograbber have its own name.  Like "Bob" or "Sally"?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rberry on 06/29/2017 05:02 PM
Shouldn't each Octograbber have its own name.  Like "Bob" or "Sally"?

As of right now there is only one, so The Octagrabber.

Edit * quite right about Octa.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Req on 06/29/2017 05:09 PM
Please stop with the octo.

Octa is the prefix that you should have learned during grade school or before.

http://www.spacex.com/news/2006/01/01/octaweb

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Perchlorate on 06/29/2017 05:39 PM
Seems like I went to my favorite seafood restaurant last Octaber, and the fried Octapus was delicious.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Perchlorate on 06/29/2017 05:40 PM
Seems like I went to my favorite seafood restaurant last Octaber, and the fried Octapus was delicious.


Please stop with the octo.

Octa is the prefix that you should have learned during grade school or before.

http://www.spacex.com/news/2006/01/01/octaweb
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lars-J on 06/29/2017 05:45 PM
Seems like I went to my favorite seafood restaurant last Octaber, and the fried Octapus was delicious.

What's your point? Do you really believe that English is a grammatically consistent language?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Perchlorate on 06/29/2017 05:52 PM
Seems like I went to my favorite seafood restaurant last Octaber, and the fried Octapus was delicious.

What's your point? Do you really believe that English is a grammatically consistent language?

Just refuting the idea that "octa" is the standard numerical prefix associated with the number 8.  "Octo" is just as valid as "octa, and maybe even more prevalent.  The earlier poster has suggested that we all should have learned in grade school to use "octa."  I was simply disagreeing.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 06/29/2017 06:05 PM
So there's roomba for disagreement on what to call this thing?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Perchlorate on 06/29/2017 06:37 PM
So there's roomba for disagreement on what to call this thing?

Maaba, maaba not.

Even though it's a Discussion thread, maaba it's time for a little self-moderation.  I'm done. :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/30/2017 12:38 AM
Intelsat 35e is the same day as my 11th anniversary... Decisions, decisions.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 06/30/2017 01:36 AM
So Lars-J mentioned in the discussion thread that the invisible Wonder Woman Dragon Capsule is on the pad for the static fire!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: docmordrid on 06/30/2017 03:05 AM
Seems like I went to my favorite seafood restaurant last Octaber, and the fried Octapus was delicious.

What's your point? Do you really believe that English is a grammatically consistent language?

Just refuting the idea that "octa" is the standard numerical prefix associated with the number 8.  "Octo" is just as valid as "octa, and maybe even more prevalent.  The earlier poster has suggested that we all should have learned in grade school to use "octa."  I was simply disagreeing.

I agree with your earlier statement, but will add a (pseudo)scientific justification ;)

It moves, has arms and grabs things with them - so IMO it is a cybernetic cephalopod which should be assigned to the Order Octopoda, from which the Octopus and other cephalopods arose.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 06/30/2017 04:16 AM
Intelsat 35e same day as 11th to anniversary... Decisions, decisions.
Um? I'm not seeing the issue.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 06/30/2017 10:59 PM
Well Octo or octa. 
When they launch we should all just "get ready to Roombo".
(Or is that Roomba or rumble )
 ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Formica on 06/30/2017 11:37 PM
Waiting for those landing videos be like...

Also, following the Culture naming convention, the octagrabber should clearly be named Attitude Adjuster. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Scylla on 06/30/2017 11:51 PM
I've always favored naming it CUDDLES. The stage is all wobbly and scared.😱 Possibly sea sick.😢 Cuddles would come out, hold it and make it feel better.😁
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CJ on 07/01/2017 01:26 AM
Well, the roomba (also called octograbber) has been seen in use now. And, contra my earlier predictions, it's not a giant roomba for cleaning the deck.

Another issue is the changeover from aluminum to titanium grid fins. The huge unanswered question that SpaceX has yet to address is, will the new ones work as well as the old as waffle irons for the post-landing lunch? 



Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: gongora on 07/01/2017 02:15 AM
Also, following the Culture naming convention, the octagrabber should clearly be named Attitude Adjuster. Just sayin'.

I don't think the octagrabber should be named after a warship (I'd have to check but I assume Attitude Adjuster was an offensive unit.)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 07/01/2017 02:19 AM
Picture of the 225º grid fin nearly melted away, credit (https://i.imgur.com/3FS0Blc.jpg) to u/thedubya22 on Reddit.

That'll buff right out!

Amazing how the camera was able to deal with the stream of molten Aluminum coming its way....

No chance SpaceX has developed transparent aluminum, eh?  I mean, there *were* rumors somewhere that they were looking into nuclear wessels...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 07/01/2017 03:51 AM
I've always favored naming it CUDDLES. The stage is all wobbly and scared.😱 Possibly sea sick.😢 Cuddles would come out, hold it and make it feel better.😁
Since they need two: Cuddles and Snuggles, the Octa Twins!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 07/01/2017 04:15 AM
Picture of the 225º grid fin nearly melted away, credit (https://i.imgur.com/3FS0Blc.jpg) to u/thedubya22 on Reddit.

That'll buff right out!

Amazing how the camera was able to deal with the stream of molten Aluminum coming its way....

No chance SpaceX has developed transparent aluminum, eh?  I mean, there *were* rumors somewhere that they were looking into nuclear wessels...
Transparent aluminum already exists since Scotty gave the guy the formula year's ago.

It is in fact a real thing although it is of course an alloy. Cool stuff. And strong. That Roddenberry guy was like Nostradamus. Flip phones, PADDs, transparent Al. Amazing. Next thing we know Elon will be introducing his next great transportation idea, the warp drive.

Check it out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_oxynitride (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_oxynitride)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Formica on 07/01/2017 04:24 PM

I don't think the octagrabber should be named after a warship (I'd have to check but I assume Attitude Adjuster was an offensive unit.)

Okay, yeah, Attitude Adjuster was a warship. Involved in a conspiracy to start a war.

Conversely, the octagrabber literally adjusts the attitude of landed stages. It's just too perfect.

I guess I'd settle for Funny, It Worked Last Time, though that doesn't exactly inspire confidence.  ::)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 07/02/2017 07:54 AM
Did I miss the Intelsat 35e landing bingo? I'm going to chose "AO"

:
:

(yes that's "Atlantic Ocean")
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Helodriver on 07/02/2017 09:46 AM
NSF SpaceX ASDS Landing Bingo returns again! Let's see who actually reads this part of the game postings!

So we've just had doubleheader weekend and while we're all still woozy from our drunken celebratory coast to coast electric boogalooing, SpaceX goes and sneaks out a legless finless booster out on to 39A hoping they'd get off a landingless launch in the middle of the night without anyone noticing. Fat chance! This is NSF we're talking about here! Obsessive stalking and discussion of minute detail is what we do best. Noting is too obscure! Trainspotting anoraks have nothing on us! Let the games begin!

No shotgun start, the game is immediately open!

The game remains exactly as played in prior iterations. Except for the part where the ASDS remains port and the rocket crashes into the ocean in pieces at near supersonic speed. If its not broke don't fix it. :)

 - CRS-8 ( http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39977.0 )
 - JCSAT-14 ( http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=40219.0 )

Pick your square, one per player. Closest square to the center engine when it comes to a halt gets the prize! Pro tip: I expect it to be somewhere between Bermuda and the Bahamas.

This includes post landing walkabouts or fluttering to the water's surface of lightweight random parts and pieces scattered across the sky from the tumbling breakup.

Definite major prize for fireballs, debris, or damage on deck! Especially since the ASDS will be hundreds of miles uprange!

If it hits the ship, goes kaboom, punctures holes in the deck, falls over in transit, there is no winner. Only a booster standing tall and triumphant as the ASDS sails into the harbor will generate a win! Then a squadron of Raptor powered elephants will launch and circle the globe trumpeting your victory. I guarantee it. Promise.

Water squares are meaningless, if falls in the sea, no winners - no prize. Well scratch that!  Water square gets a win if you pick the correct one.

This thread remains the official record of who chose what square when. For that reason any edited pick post is invalid. Naw, edit away, see if I care. First to claim a square gets it! Given how big the ocean impact hazard area is, there are PLENTY of squares to choose from.

Use Dan's scraper to see which spots have gone: Scraper HAS NOT been repointed to new thread. No sense wasting DanielW's bandwidth for nothing. That stuff does not grow on trees you know.

http://asds.dansdoorway.com/BigOceanLittleRocket

NOTE: There may sometimes be a slight delay of a few minutes at most between scraper updates, so check the last few posts before yours too, just to be sure.  Thanks to DanielW for setting the scraper up, it helps a lot!

Judging is by me, Helodriver picking whomever I damn well please as the winner because there isn't going to be a camera within 100 miles of splashdown. Rocketcams, helicopter or drone shots, and landing coverage will be ignored, but where it sits at the time of its bomb like landing will be final.  Post landing movements by robot will only happen if Optimus Prime (the real one) happens to be flying by on his way to fight Decepticons. :)

Winner gets the remains of the Intelsat35e booster as a suitable prize. Prize is as is - where is, transportation and loading are the sole responsibility of the winner. Winner does not get a year of L2 membership for free. This is not a charity. If a current L2 member, you are awesome, if not, better luck next time! ;)


Good luck SpaceX, Good luck Intelsat35e, and Good luck especially to NSF readers, you're going to need it!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Kasponaut on 07/02/2017 09:58 AM
I believe this booster will be expendable 😉
So we can't have a bingo 😳
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Poole Amateur on 07/02/2017 10:09 AM
Love Bingo! 28°53'2" N 78°27'1" W Right on top of a NOAA Buoy. Though if it does land there, things not gone so well  :P
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/02/2017 10:20 AM
NSF SpaceX ASDS Landing Bingo returns again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Npo0cmp-VY
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 07/02/2017 01:11 PM
We're launching rockets on a 4th of July weekend. How appropriate.  8)

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 07/02/2017 01:53 PM
After staging Falcon will descend into the mists of the triangle and reappear on Pad 39A ready for reuse...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachS09 on 07/02/2017 03:27 PM
We're launching rockets on a 4th of July weekend. How appropriate.  8)

It's been done before. STS-121 is a notable example.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: gongora on 07/02/2017 03:38 PM
After staging Falcon will descend into the mists of the triangle and reappear on Pad 39A ready for reuse...

I was wondering how some people thought SpaceX will launch the full manifest this year...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: tmoe on 07/02/2017 05:59 PM
Sadly my new SpaceX mug arrived two days ago with a broken handle (picture). Fixed with glue and ready for its first launch and expendable coffee later tonight if weather cooperates:-)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 07/02/2017 07:37 PM
We're launching rockets on a 4th of July weekend. How appropriate.  8)

It's been done before. STS-121 is a notable example.

Oh heck yeah. We've even landed on the 4th before. That was an awesome day.

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 07/02/2017 07:47 PM
When did SpaceX get a new ASDS named Just Kidding?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: John Alan on 07/02/2017 07:53 PM
Just noticed 39A is developing a nice healthy coating of soot from all the usage....  8)

Link to pics referenced...  on edit
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43211.msg1697923#msg1697923 (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43211.msg1697923#msg1697923)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 07/02/2017 09:14 PM
NSF SpaceX ASDS Landing Bingo returns again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Npo0cmp-VY

This one is, of course, better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIXByCAIzos

The other one is defective, it lacks LEGO references.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 07/02/2017 09:21 PM
Oh, and my guess is, of course 

53°38'1.79" N -2°40'16.79" W
or
53.6357823 N ,-2.7006652 W

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.6357823,-2.7006652

...
spoiler, highlight to see it
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelot_Theme_Park
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 07/02/2017 09:57 PM
T-35 minutes. Engineers confident launch will be a success.
When was the last time you heard an engineer say (about their own thing) "I am absolutely CERTAIN this will be a failure" ???
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: gongora on 07/02/2017 10:03 PM
When did SpaceX get a new ASDS named Just Kidding?

Now you made me look at the list of Culture ship names to see if that actually was one.  (It's not.)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 07/02/2017 10:32 PM
T-35 minutes. Engineers confident launch will be a success.
When was the last time you heard an engineer say (about their own thing) "I am absolutely CERTAIN this will be a failure" ???
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_1
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Boisjoly#/editor/3
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mme on 07/02/2017 10:55 PM
NSF SpaceX ASDS Landing Bingo returns again! Let's see who actually reads this part of the game postings!
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Good luck SpaceX, Good luck Intelsat35e, and Good luck especially to NSF readers, you're going to need it!
In elementary school I always failed the "read everything before starting test" test.  I passed this time because Spoiler Alert:
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Malcolm Crowe is dead.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 07/02/2017 11:33 PM
Too much copypasta
Was that with alfredo or marinara sauce? I always feel a little sluggish after an alfredo lunch.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mme on 07/02/2017 11:42 PM
GNC criteria called the abort.
Looks like the rocket realized it did not have landing legs.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Craftyatom on 07/02/2017 11:45 PM
GNC criteria called the abort.
Looks like the rocket realized it did not have landing legs.
"Guys?  How am I gonna get back home?  Hey, why are you going ahead with the countdown?  What's going on?"

Hopefully they can wipe this AI and install a slightly dumber one before tomorrow's launch window opens!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 07/02/2017 11:46 PM
GNC criteria called the abort.
Looks like the rocket realized it did not have landing legs.
I knew they shouldn't have upgraded to that new neural net flight computer. It has become self-aware and doesn't wan't to plunge to its death in the ocean.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 07/02/2017 11:50 PM
As the Falcon awoke it said "where am I"?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CJ on 07/02/2017 11:53 PM

From the update thread;

More time to get your bingo picks in.

Okay, my pick is the Atlantic Ocean, but not including the deck of ASDS OCISLY. Does anyone have that pick yet? If not, sign me up! :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 07/03/2017 12:02 AM
GNC criteria called the abort.
Looks like the rocket realized it did not have landing legs.
"Guys?  How am I gonna get back home?  Hey, why are you going ahead with the countdown?  What's going on?"

Hopefully they can wipe this AI and install a slightly dumber one before tomorrow's launch window opens!
Hey guys, you haven't told me where the Drone Ship is? Guys? Guys? Oh. So that's how this is gonna be, huh? Well hold my beer, watch this.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 07/03/2017 12:07 AM
GNC criteria called the abort.
Looks like the rocket realized it did not have landing legs.
"Guys?  How am I gonna get back home?  Hey, why are you going ahead with the countdown?  What's going on?"

Hopefully they can wipe this AI and install a slightly dumber one before tomorrow's launch window opens!
Hey guys, you haven't told me where the Drone Ship is? Guys? Guys? Oh. So that's how this is gonna be, huh? Well hold my beer, watch this.
Could it be as simple as somebody forgot to put the GNC computer in expendable mode and so it balked at a NULL for the ASDS coordinates. That would interesting. Hopefully it's something as simple as that, although would be kind of a big oversight by somebody.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 07/03/2017 12:10 AM
This bird is a diva and sources secretly report that she really wants to launch on the 4th...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Bubbinski on 07/03/2017 12:31 AM
Ever since I woke up and saw that Long March 5/Shijian-18 failed I had a bad feeling about today's F9 launch attempt. The Chinese launch and F9/Intelsat launch were about the same time of day 12 hours apart. I knew there was some kind of black cloud hanging over today for space ops....but tomorrow's a new day.

Tomorrow could indeed feature a landing off one coast and a launch on the other one. Be interesting if a splashdown bingo for Dragons ever got started.....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dodo on 07/03/2017 05:49 AM
GNC criteria called the abort.
Looks like the rocket realized it did not have landing legs.
"Guys?  How am I gonna get back home?  Hey, why are you going ahead with the countdown?  What's going on?"

Hopefully they can wipe this AI and install a slightly dumber one before tomorrow's launch window opens!
Hey guys, you haven't told me where the Drone Ship is? Guys? Guys? Oh. So that's how this is gonna be, huh? Well hold my beer, watch this.
Could it be as simple as somebody forgot to put the GNC computer in expendable mode and so it balked at a NULL for the ASDS coordinates. That would interesting. Hopefully it's something as simple as that, although would be kind of a big oversight by somebody.
In other words, SpaceX is forgetting how to do expendable launches.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: LouScheffer on 07/03/2017 12:57 PM
As the Falcon awoke it said "where am I"?
Well, it's better than "You are false data" (http://www.cinemah.com/altri/war/carpent.htm).  That one did not turn out so well...

EDIT: Added link for those not familiar with the(excellent, but very low budget) movie.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: fthomassy on 07/03/2017 04:33 PM
As the Falcon awoke it said "where am I"?
Well, it's better than "You are false data" (http://www.cinemah.com/altri/war/carpent.htm).  That one did not turn out so well...
... for Amos-6

too soon?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jim on 07/03/2017 04:47 PM
GNC criteria called the abort.
Looks like the rocket realized it did not have landing legs.
"Guys?  How am I gonna get back home?  Hey, why are you going ahead with the countdown?  What's going on?"

Hopefully they can wipe this AI and install a slightly dumber one before tomorrow's launch window opens!
Hey guys, you haven't told me where the Drone Ship is? Guys? Guys? Oh. So that's how this is gonna be, huh? Well hold my beer, watch this.
Could it be as simple as somebody forgot to put the GNC computer in expendable mode and so it balked at a NULL for the ASDS coordinates. That would interesting. Hopefully it's something as simple as that, although would be kind of a big oversight by somebody.
In other words, SpaceX is forgetting how to do expendable launches.

That is taking it too far
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: obi-wan on 07/03/2017 05:22 PM
So, not to be a buzzkill here, but why did this topic get put in the "sticky" section? As I understand it, you make topics sticky because they (a) have useful information many people may want to refer to later, but (b) the topic is infrequently used so it would get otherwise lost in page after page of unused topics. As much as I love (most of) the humor, neither of those criteria would seem to pertain to this thread...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 07/03/2017 06:25 PM
This is by far my favorite landing poll ever!

And re why is this sticky??
 ...talk to Chris about that. We didn't do it.

But I suspect it is something like the same reason there is a "kids table" at family events.
They think because they are special... and the adults agree....
so special they get to hold their conversations off on the side and let the adults alone.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 07/03/2017 06:41 PM
So, not to be a buzzkill here, but why did this topic get put in the "sticky" section? As I understand it, you make topics sticky because they (a) have useful information many people may want to refer to later, but (b) the topic is infrequently used so it would get otherwise lost in page after page of unused topics. As much as I love (most of) the humor, neither of those criteria would seem to pertain to this thread...
(c) the thread has awesomeness not accounted for in (a) or (b)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Scylla on 07/03/2017 06:43 PM
So, not to be a buzzkill here, but why did this topic get put in the "sticky" section? As I understand it, you make topics sticky because they (a) have useful information many people may want to refer to later, but (b) the topic is infrequently used so it would get otherwise lost in page after page of unused topics. As much as I love (most of) the humor, neither of those criteria would seem to pertain to this thread...
The answer is here.
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42585.msg1690729#msg1690729
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: toruonu on 07/04/2017 12:18 AM
If they scrub today I'm gonna be frakked :D Stayed up last night until 2:35AM only to see T-9s abort :) Today it's been pushing back and back to the end of the window and now it's 3:18AM here with launch at 3:35AM :D I'd have slept and set an alarm had I known that it's around 3AM instead of 2AM.

Oh well, sleep is overrated anyway I guess...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cartman on 07/04/2017 12:37 AM
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 07/04/2017 12:38 AM
What the hey?! :'(  Scrub...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jarnis on 07/04/2017 12:39 AM
Is this a rerun of yesterday's broadcast or...?  :-\
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Craftyatom on 07/04/2017 12:40 AM
Tonight's AI horror story...  The Falcon That Wouldn't Launch!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 07/04/2017 12:47 AM
Like I said this diva wants to put on a "big show" on the 4th of July... ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 07/04/2017 12:50 AM
Ground criteria in the guidance system out of family? As in ASDS location set to NULL; does not compute?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: DanielW on 07/04/2017 12:52 AM
They forgot to comment out "I can't feel my legs!" Check at T minus ten.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 07/04/2017 12:55 AM
Like I said this diva wants to put on a "big show" on the 4th of July... ;)

Like.  "What? You're throwing me away? Everybody else got to land! Why do Iiiiiieee
Have to be deep sixed?   Nope I'm not going and that's final harummmph!"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 07/04/2017 01:02 AM
SpaceX reports reason for the scrubs....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucdZHR75iCM
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 07/04/2017 04:06 AM
SpaceX reports reason for the scrubs....

Should we launch the rocket?

No. That is what they would expect us to do.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: drzerg on 07/04/2017 01:55 PM
it is just not flight proven rocket. thats all.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 07/04/2017 01:59 PM
So, not to be a buzzkill here, but why did this topic get put in the "sticky" section? As I understand it, you make topics sticky because they (a) have useful information many people may want to refer to later, but (b) the topic is infrequently used so it would get otherwise lost in page after page of unused topics. As much as I love (most of) the humor, neither of those criteria would seem to pertain to this thread...
The answer is here.
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42585.msg1690729#msg1690729

Serious discussion[1] of why decisions about this thread were made is off topic for this thread.

1 - as is any other sort of serious discussion, for that matter.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AJW on 07/04/2017 02:47 PM
Root cause?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: DanseMacabre on 07/04/2017 03:49 PM
So, not to be a buzzkill here, but why did this topic get put in the "sticky" section? As I understand it, you make topics sticky because they (a) have useful information many people may want to refer to later, but (b) the topic is infrequently used so it would get otherwise lost in page after page of unused topics. As much as I love (most of) the humor, neither of those criteria would seem to pertain to this thread...
The answer is here.
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42585.msg1690729#msg1690729

Serious discussion[1] of why decisions about this thread were made is off topic for this thread.

1 - as is any other sort of serious discussion, for that matter.

Therefore your message is serious discussion. Atonement can be made by 10 Hail Elon's and 5 re-watches of OG2(2) landing footage.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Scylla on 07/04/2017 10:26 PM
So, not to be a buzzkill here, but why did this topic get put in the "sticky" section? As I understand it, you make topics sticky because they (a) have useful information many people may want to refer to later, but (b) the topic is infrequently used so it would get otherwise lost in page after page of unused topics. As much as I love (most of) the humor, neither of those criteria would seem to pertain to this thread...
The answer is here.
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42585.msg1690729#msg1690729

Serious discussion[1] of why decisions about this thread were made is off topic for this thread.

1 - as is any other sort of serious discussion, for that matter.

Therefore your message is serious discussion. Atonement can be made by 10 Hail Elon's and 5 re-watches of OG2(2) landing footage.
Agreed. Obi-wans original post was serious. Which on this thread is viewed as a negative. My reply would also be viewed as serious and thus also negative. This would be a double negative.
In english, a double negative = a positive, thus the two posts combined are actually frivolous. 8)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 07/05/2017 06:49 AM
Are you serious!?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 07/05/2017 07:14 AM
Are you serious!?
This is a pseudo-silly thread. Maybe some people in the real world think a double negative is somehow a positive so here is where such things are parodied.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 07/05/2017 12:22 PM
I just realized the party thread is on page 42!
so we should assume that the ultimate answer to life, the universe and everything should be posted soon. 
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Cherokee43v6 on 07/05/2017 12:26 PM
Are you serious!?

And cue the Harry Potter jokes...







*crickets*
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Cherokee43v6 on 07/05/2017 12:29 PM
I just realized the party thread is on page 42!
so we should assume that the ultimate answer to life, the universe and everything should be posted soon.

Everybody Mousersize!

Uh... hey!  Where did all the white mice go?


//Attention people of Earth.  Your planet has been condemned and slated to be removed for the construction of a hyperspace bypass...//
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Scylla on 07/05/2017 12:31 PM
Are you serious!?
I assure you, my statement was firmly rooted in the rules of english grammer and party thread logic. DANG IT!!! Look what you made me do...ANOTHER serious statement. Now I have to run outside, turn around three times and curse loudly in order to fend off bad ju ju.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 07/05/2017 12:35 PM
I just realized the party thread is on page 42!
so we should assume that the ultimate answer to life, the universe and everything should be posted soon.

42?  Oh, yeah, I guess it would be with Forum Settings 1.0.  I upgraded to Forum Settings (Upgrade|Full Thrust|1.2|), so we're only on page 17 thanks to the better page message fraction of 50.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 07/05/2017 12:36 PM
I just realized the party thread is on page 42!
so we should assume that the ultimate answer to life, the universe and everything should be posted soon.

Everybody Mousersize!

Uh... hey!  Where did all the white mice go?


//Attention people of Earth.  Your planet has been condemned and slated to be removed for the construction of a hyperspace bypass...//

But the plans were published in your local zoning office on Alfa Centauri...
(See, we're on topic! A space reference)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Scylla on 07/05/2017 12:40 PM
I just realized the party thread is on page 42!
so we should assume that the ultimate answer to life, the universe and everything should be posted soon.

Everybody Mousersize!

Uh... hey!  Where did all the white mice go?


//Attention people of Earth.  Your planet has been condemned and slated to be removed for the construction of a hyperspace bypass...//

But the plans were published in your local zoning office on Alfa Centauri...
(See, we're on topic! A space reference)
On topic? In a party thread? <gasp> <points finger and begins Invasion of the Bodysnatchers scream>
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mn on 07/05/2017 02:20 PM
There's a payload?

Fortunately there's a payload, otherwise how would we name the mission threads?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 07/05/2017 02:37 PM
I just realized the party thread is on page 42!
so we should assume that the ultimate answer to life, the universe and everything should be posted soon.

42?  Oh, yeah, I guess it would be with Forum Settings 1.0.  I upgraded to Forum Settings (Upgrade|Full Thrust|1.2|), so we're only on page 17 thanks to the better page message fraction of 50.

We will just call page 17 on setting's v1.2 the Prime Party.

Not to be confused with those who decide to cancel the party 9 seconds before the party.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 07/05/2017 03:28 PM
So, not to be a buzzkill here, but why did this topic get put in the "sticky" section? As I understand it, you make topics sticky because they (a) have useful information many people may want to refer to later, but (b) the topic is infrequently used so it would get otherwise lost in page after page of unused topics. As much as I love (most of) the humor, neither of those criteria would seem to pertain to this thread...
The answer is here.
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42585.msg1690729#msg1690729

Serious discussion[1] of why decisions about this thread were made is off topic for this thread.

1 - as is any other sort of serious discussion, for that matter.

Therefore your message is serious discussion. Atonement can be made by 10 Hail Elon's and 5 re-watches of OG2(2) landing footage.

The rules don't apply to me... rules, we don't need no Steenking Rules where we are going...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 07/05/2017 04:57 PM
To be honest, I'm not sure that the third time will be the charm today.

I'm predicting that another last-second abort will occur for some reason.

Sounds like the ol' insurance bet to me... since you know that reverse psychology doesn't work on rockets, right?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Cherokee43v6 on 07/05/2017 05:19 PM
Personally, I think they skipped yesterday because on July 4th rocket launches are all about the BOOM, and that is definitely NOT what should be happening.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Cherokee43v6 on 07/05/2017 05:21 PM
I just realized the party thread is on page 42!
so we should assume that the ultimate answer to life, the universe and everything should be posted soon.

Everybody Mousersize!

Uh... hey!  Where did all the white mice go?


//Attention people of Earth.  Your planet has been condemned and slated to be removed for the construction of a hyperspace bypass...//

But the plans were published in your local zoning office on Alfa Centauri...
(See, we're on topic! A space reference)

Is that the type of Sports Car Londo Molari drives when he's not on Babylon5?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 07/05/2017 07:13 PM
But the plans were published in your local zoning office on Alfa Centauri...
(See, we're on topic! A space reference)

Is that the type of Sports Car Londo Molari drives when he's not on Babylon5?

If it's a convertible, we may finally have figured out the true origin of the pre-Cartagia style.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/05/2017 07:32 PM
Because this movie was on again the other night ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lars-J on 07/05/2017 07:35 PM
Replace the "OK" with an "mmmmKay?" and it's perfect!  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 07/05/2017 08:17 PM
You mean the whole problem is the TPS report didn't end up on Elon's desk in a timely manner?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 07/05/2017 08:43 PM
We just need the rocket to sit down and talk with the Bobs about its future with the company.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 07/05/2017 09:04 PM
You mean the whole problem is the TPS report didn't end up on Elon's desk in a timely manner?
Oh my. You mean the real cause of Amos 6 was that somebody stole Milton's red stapler!?!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: launchwatcher on 07/05/2017 10:35 PM
You mean the whole problem is the TPS report didn't end up on Elon's desk in a timely manner?
There's something wrong with the BFS TPS?   Or is it Dragon?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 07/05/2017 10:54 PM
Leo has come by to watch the launch with me. :-)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 07/05/2017 11:06 PM
Leo has come by to watch the launch with me. :-)
All hands on deck for this flight, now we're good to go! :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Helodriver on 07/05/2017 11:24 PM
Leo has come by to watch the launch with me. :-)

That must be the Soyuz of computer monitors on that desk. ;)

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 07/05/2017 11:25 PM
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Leo has come by to watch the launch with me. :-)

Cool name for a cat!  8)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 07/05/2017 11:36 PM
Third time's the charm, boys. Here we go.  8)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 07/05/2017 11:42 PM
Nothin but net!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: launchwatcher on 07/05/2017 11:43 PM
Norminal!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 07/05/2017 11:46 PM
Was I the only one whose heart was absolutely thumping as we crossed T-10 seconds through until the booster was several kilometers up? I mean, launches normally get the old heart rate up, but this was more than usual given the circumstances.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 07/05/2017 11:46 PM
Quote
Leo has come by to watch the launch with me. :-)

Cool name for a cat!  8)
Polly however, doesn't care and just wants to worship the Sun...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 07/05/2017 11:48 PM
Polly is gonna need a specialty fairing me thinks.  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 07/06/2017 12:12 AM
So we what we all want to know, who won Intelsat 35e Bingo?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/06/2017 12:14 AM
No landing, "just a comsat" launch (c) Jim :)

Yet we're as busy as ever. Servers are steaming, but are holding up really well (thanks L2 members who fund them - I say that a lot, but it needs to be said).
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 07/06/2017 12:22 AM
So we what we all want to know, who won Intelsat 35e Bingo?

Neptune
And he got great bling
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 07/06/2017 12:27 AM
Was I the only one whose heart was absolutely thumping as we crossed T-10 seconds through until the booster was several kilometers up? I mean, launches normally get the old heart rate up, but this was more than usual given the circumstances.


Nope!  I went "YESSS!!" when it got to T-8!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 07/06/2017 12:28 AM
Thank you "Lucky Leo" we needed you to get this one off the pad! :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 07/06/2017 12:31 AM
Was I the only one whose heart was absolutely thumping as we crossed T-10 seconds through until the booster was several kilometers up? I mean, launches normally get the old heart rate up, but this was more than usual given the circumstances.


Nope!  I went "YESSS!!" when it got to T-8!

The countdown announcer got caught up, too.
He completely choked on 10-9-8-7-and 6. :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 07/06/2017 12:31 AM
Are you serious!?
I assure you, my statement was firmly rooted in the rules of english grammer and party thread logic. DANG IT!!! Look what you made me do...ANOTHER serious statement. Now I have to run outside, turn around three times and curse loudly in order to fend off bad ju ju.

Hee, hee!  It's like getting somebody to say "Macbeth!" in a theatre....D'oh!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/06/2017 12:34 AM
Was I the only one whose heart was absolutely thumping as we crossed T-10 seconds through until the booster was several kilometers up? I mean, launches normally get the old heart rate up, but this was more than usual given the circumstances.


Nope!  I went "YESSS!!" when it got to T-8!

I gave my screen a "don't even think about it" glance at T-10 seconds ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 07/06/2017 12:55 AM
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Leo has come by to watch the launch with me. :-)

Cool name for a cat!  8)

Leo was found in a pipe at my brothers worksite with some other kittens. With his tortoise shell colour and his "underground" origin, I named him Leonardo after one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! The other kittens found good homes elsewhere.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 07/06/2017 12:58 AM
Leo has come by to watch the launch with me. :-)
That must be the Soyuz of computer monitors on that desk. ;)

Still going strong after 20 years, although I have to give it a bang once in a while when the screen pincushions on me. Its been in the repair shop more times than I care to remember, but I like the quality of the picture compared to modern screens.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 07/06/2017 01:00 AM
Quote
Leo was found in a pipe.....

Well darn it.  I was hoping there was a colorful tale involving Low Earth Orbit.  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lars-J on 07/06/2017 01:41 AM
These blind squirrels are getting a pretty good batting average. Perhaps they aren't so blind after all.  8) ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Mongo62 on 07/06/2017 01:57 AM
Leo has come by to watch the launch with me. :-)
That must be the Soyuz of computer monitors on that desk. ;)

Still going strong after 20 years, although I have to give it a bang once in a while when the screen pincushions on me. Its been in the repair shop more times than I care to remember, but I like the quality of the picture compared to modern screens.

It's like my desktop CRT monitor as well, it has to be 15 years old, but it's still going strong. I see no reason to replace it with a modern flatscreen monitor that would probably have its image quality become severely degraded in a few years.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: gospacex on 07/06/2017 02:19 AM
These blind squirrels are getting a pretty good batting average. Perhaps they aren't so blind after all.  8) ;D

 :-X
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rickl on 07/06/2017 06:49 AM
Was I the only one whose heart was absolutely thumping as we crossed T-10 seconds through until the booster was several kilometers up? I mean, launches normally get the old heart rate up, but this was more than usual given the circumstances.


Nope!  I went "YESSS!!" when it got to T-8!

The countdown announcer got caught up, too.
He completely choked on 10-9-8-7-and 6. :)


That gave me a serious WTF? moment.  The clock is moving, but where's the countdown?

I don't care what anyone says.  SpaceX launches are never boring to me.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: S.Paulissen on 07/06/2017 12:03 PM
Thanks to Steven and the two Chrises (Chrisia? Chrisium?) for the excellent coverage as always.
Congratulations to SpaceX on this astounding pace.
Commiserations to Pad  X.

I can't believe we have to wait a whole 35 days now for the next one..
**from updates thread**

I believe it's "Christicles".  XD
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 07/06/2017 12:38 PM
From another thread:

Wait, why is there a discussion of Shuttle tiles in a thread about SpaceX and it's competition?

The same reason that SpaceX shows up in a discussion of a ham sandwich on these fora?   :D

Well, that's not completely preposterous.  Of course, it was a corned beef sandwich on Gemini 3, but given a half century of progress in lunch vehicles, shouldn't SpaceX be able to develop a space-rated ham sandwich to replace the crummy old space lunch vehicles?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Cherokee43v6 on 07/06/2017 12:50 PM
From another thread:

Wait, why is there a discussion of Shuttle tiles in a thread about SpaceX and it's competition?

The same reason that SpaceX shows up in a discussion of a ham sandwich on these fora?   :D

Well, that's not completely preposterous.  Of course, it was a corned beef sandwich on Gemini 3, but given a half century of progress in lunch vehicles, shouldn't SpaceX be able to develop a space-rated ham sandwich to replace the crummy old space lunch vehicles?

CHEESE!

(and we're back to mice again)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 07/06/2017 02:26 PM
Quote
Leo has come by to watch the launch with me. :-)

Cool name for a cat!  8)

Leo was found in a pipe at my brothers worksite with some other kittens. With his tortoise shell colour and his "underground" origin, I named him Leonardo after one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! The other kittens found good homes elsewhere.
I say we nominate "Lucky Leo" (lucky to have Steven as his dad) and getting us a "GO" for launch, the Official SpaceX Mascot!! :) How say we all?? We already have one "tough vote" in...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 07/06/2017 03:37 PM
Was it just my ears or did the announcer John create a new word "Norminal"?

I think it was regarding the orbit resulting from the second burn of S2

In my house every time they say Nominal I hear the muppets singing a song
MANAMAMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsjcb7w1Y-w
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: DaveJ576 on 07/06/2017 04:08 PM
So, in the picture above of Steve's cat most people would say, "Oooh... nice cat!" I looked at it and said "Geez Steve! A CRT monitor and a corded telephone? This technological Neanderthal is being trusted to bring us live coverage of our precious SpaceX launches?? Surely you can't be serious..."   :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: launchwatcher on 07/06/2017 04:13 PM
In my house every time they say Nominal I hear the muppets singing a song
MANAMAMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Qszi-3uFM


Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 07/06/2017 04:51 PM
Unless it is on fire it is a software problem.
In this case it was a software problem that kept it from being on fire.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 07/06/2017 08:32 PM
The countdown announcer got caught up, too.
He completely choked on 10-9-8-7-and 6. :)


That gave me a serious WTF? moment.  The clock is moving, but where's the countdown?

I don't care what anyone says.  SpaceX launches are never boring to me.

I put that down to superstition, rather than choking. "I've said T-10 twice, and it's aborted twice. Not doing it again."
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Cherokee43v6 on 07/07/2017 12:49 PM
The countdown announcer got caught up, too.
He completely choked on 10-9-8-7-and 6. :)


That gave me a serious WTF? moment.  The clock is moving, but where's the countdown?

I don't care what anyone says.  SpaceX launches are never boring to me.

I put that down to superstition, rather than choking. "I've said T-10 twice, and it's aborted twice. Not doing it again."

Okay... to mollify the superstitious we here in the party thread hereby declare that the 'T-10' call shall be replaced by:

Hey! Ho! Let's Go!

T 10
Teen Titan

eh... oh well, wasn't that funny anyway...  :-[  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Helodriver on 07/07/2017 02:08 PM
I think the new grid fins are frakked about being left off the Intelsat35e flight.

Now they've gone all Cyberdyne Systems on us.

I think they're not actually titanium at all,  but really a mimetic polyalloy. Liquid metal. :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: gongora on 07/07/2017 02:19 PM
I think the new grid fins are frakked about being left off the Intelsat35e flight.

Now they've gone all Cyberdyne Systems on us.

I think they're not actually titanium at all,  but really a mimetic polyalloy. Liquid metal. :)

Doesn't that stuff have a much lower melting point than titanium?  :-\
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 07/07/2017 06:23 PM
Doesn't that stuff have a much lower melting point than titanium?  :-\

Only if it wants to
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 07/08/2017 12:50 AM
That terminator robot has been spending too much time with Grumpy cat..... just sayin.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 07/08/2017 08:21 PM
Doesn't that stuff have a much lower melting point than titanium?  :-\

Only if it wants to
Well there is evidence that that stuff doesn't handle cryogenic temps very well. Tends to fracture and shatter under big shocks and impacts. Granted it has some self-healing capabilities once it warms up, but it doesn't seem like something that would work well in rocket launches.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 07/09/2017 05:39 AM
Ahhnold likes it just fine.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 07/12/2017 09:31 PM
And the time must past till the next flight somehow
Shall we start another limerick contest?

Schedule full for the rest of the year
CRS 12, and more that I hear
Iridium Next 3 & 4
  Plus Bangabandu in the door
Then Heavy with cases of beer

(Edit ... not my best somebody has to do better please)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Formica on 07/14/2017 09:34 PM
Well, that's not completely preposterous.  Of course, it was a corned beef sandwich on Gemini 3, but given a half century of progress in lunch vehicles, shouldn't SpaceX be able to develop a space-rated ham sandwich to replace the crummy old space lunch vehicles?

Does a human-rated sandwich have 25% (40% for SpaceX!) more meat?  ::)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: gongora on 07/19/2017 08:13 PM
[SpaceNews] Q&A: Saft details future space batteries, ponders impact of satellite servicing and reusable rockets (http://spacenews.com/qa-saft-details-future-space-batteries-ponders-impact-of-satellite-servicing-and-reusable-rockets/)
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[Annie Sennet, executive vice president of Space and Defense at Saft]: I personally don’t like reusable batteries because that means they don’t buy them again, but I do like watching the landing videos.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 07/19/2017 08:22 PM
(Edit ... not my best somebody has to do better please)

A party too slow is the worst
Here following after the burst
Six launches, two weeks
It tired us geeks
(Not counting that China launch, cursed)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 07/21/2017 02:14 AM
There was a forum, Nasaspaceflight
That kept many a nerd up late night
With scrubs in the morn
Going to work forlorn
SpaceX did finally get it right

- RUDyard Kringeling
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 07/21/2017 12:00 PM
If rockets were like LEGO® (http://lego.com) bricks
Which snap right together with clicks
By now we'd have bevies
Of cool Falcon Heavies
And some Raptor/Falcon 9 mix
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 07/22/2017 06:04 AM
OT.  CRS-12 Means I will be having ISScream on my birthday!!!  8)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 07/24/2017 05:14 PM
Okay, it's not a limerick, but I was feeling a bit constrained and figured I'd relax the constraints.  ;D

    This downtime leaves us quite a mess
    And so I post again
    If we just had an RSS
    To pull a piece or ten

    Or we could weld some trusses up
    Just like designers drew
    To make up a new access arm
    For our commercial crew

    But lacking the initiative
    And money, that the most
    I'll just keep writing poetry
    And to this thread I'll post

Next! 8)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: davetherobot on 07/26/2017 04:22 AM
I hope someone makes a school bus traversing the moon mockup photo in preparation for the FH demo mission. I'm sure there is some educational benefit to explaining to children that there is a school bus in orbit, just can't quite put my finger on it.

(http://www.newvideo.com/wp-content/themes/hybrid-newvideo/tools/timthumb.php?src=/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/MSB-SpaceAdventuresDVD-F.jpg&h=360)

Like this?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: DanseMacabre on 07/26/2017 09:01 AM
I hope someone makes a school bus traversing the moon mockup photo in preparation for the FH demo mission. I'm sure there is some educational benefit to explaining to children that there is a school bus in orbit, just can't quite put my finger on it.

(http://www.newvideo.com/wp-content/themes/hybrid-newvideo/tools/timthumb.php?src=/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/MSB-SpaceAdventuresDVD-F.jpg&h=360)

Like this?

Incidentally, I played the S**T out of this game as a child. Thanks for the throwbacks!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Robotbeat on 07/26/2017 12:25 PM
Tea kettle.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ludus on 07/26/2017 10:34 PM
If this isn't the right place to bring it up please move or delete.

I'm suggesting that the SpaceX satellite Constellation is a foundation for a Global Digital Financial Company that fits with EMs original ambitions for X.Com . Further that something in the current zeitgeist that fits with that is a cryptocurrency.

SpaceX could create an Xcom global financial system on the basis of a ubiquitous global digital communications system.

On top of that SpaceX has the opportunity to create a special cryptocurrency. Call it XCoin.

XCoin would have unique opportunities. Unlike Bitcoin or Ether it would have a floor value if it was accepted at a sort of book value for SpaceX Services. Those services might constitute a universal global standard. Most people on earth might value easily obtained digital internet service that's low latency, high bandwidth and everywhere.

XCoin on this foundation could also be a vehicle to pay for Mars Settlement or for ordinary people to invest in that.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: launchwatcher on 07/27/2017 01:25 PM
Tea kettle.
Not yet.   Needs to wait for a Mars mission.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 07/28/2017 02:06 PM
Waiting for the next lunch has me looking for alternative reasons for the delay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvAk9718Jo8


Think the search is just hallucinations from going without a lunch for so long?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Craftyatom on 07/28/2017 05:19 PM
Think the search is just hallucinations from going without a lunch for so long?

Hypoglycemia does strange things to people.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: gongora on 07/29/2017 02:45 PM
Tweet from Jeff Foust (https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/891292116822962177):
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No wonder the Falcon Heavy has taken so long to develop.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 07/29/2017 03:01 PM
He ain't heavy.... he's my brother.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Bubbinski on 07/29/2017 07:03 PM
It's been nearly a month since the last SpaceX (or US orbital) launch. These are truly the dog days of summer. But I have this Falcon 9 here to cheer you all up:
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 07/29/2017 09:16 PM
Waiting for the next lunch has me looking for alternative reasons for the delay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvAk9718Jo8


Think the search is just hallucinations from going without a lunch for so long?

If you really want to annoy some people who are into fad diets, send them this guy's "Gluten Intolerance" video.
No offense to genuine Celiac sufferers (I know some)! 
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 07/30/2017 02:57 PM
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If you really want to annoy some people who are into fad diets, send them this guy's "Gluten Intolerance" video.
No offense to genuine Celiac sufferers (I know some)!
No thanks, I really enjoy the red flames with a touch of green at the start of my lunch. It's not a lunch without the flamy sear marks on the bun...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 07/31/2017 06:56 AM
Oh, there's launches this year and plenty
The count could close to twenty
And men of over ninety who sware the earth is flat

Give me a martian rover
Iani Chaos spilled over
We'll roam Utopia all over
and together we'll see a new world
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 08/01/2017 02:03 PM
Look's like Elon and Tesla are now helping the USAF with it's flights to near space,

Tesla Model S is the new U-2 chase vehicle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ6hwzGs8O0
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rpapo on 08/01/2017 02:15 PM
Look's like Elon and Tesla are now helping the USAF with it's flights to near space,

Tesla Model S is the new U-2 chase vehicle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ6hwzGs8O0
You should also have posted the link to the article explaining this:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/news/a27570/air-force-tesla-u-2-spy-plane/
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 08/01/2017 07:45 PM
Actually I pulled it off of Electrex's article, https://electrek.co/2017/07/27/tesla-model-s-chaser-car-launch-spy-planes-royal-air-force/ that Flight Global's Stephen Trimble, https://twitter.com/FG_STrim tweeted this morning, https://twitter.com/FG_STrim/status/892351094751449088

If you really want proper accreditation.... Now where Electrex may have lifted it from is a whole other story

btw. The video is dated 7/26, Electrex's story is dated 7/27, and Popular Mechanic's story is dated 8/1
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dodo on 08/05/2017 01:42 PM
This remainded me of that old story...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg73GKm7GgI
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 08/07/2017 05:33 PM
Quote
Aboard Dragon capsule on #CRS12 #CREAM Cosmic Ray Energetics and Mass, from high alt ballooning experiments, is going to the ISS. NASA PHOTO

https://twitter.com/spacenews360/status/893817372129341440
Anyone else wish the imaginary payload
"Primary Exo-Atmospheric Colorimetric High Energy System"
"PEACHES" was on board?

Edit
Of course another way to look at it is that they already have the coffee, and only needed the cream

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/04/17/400313659/espresso-in-orbit-spacex-craft-brings-coffee-machine-to-space-station
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: IntoTheVoid on 08/11/2017 07:48 PM
Do we know what these pieces are for?

(Credit to /u/TheFavoritist: https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/6rbmkh/rspacex_discusses_august_2017_35/dlfjxxl/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/6rbmkh/rspacex_discusses_august_2017_35/dlfjxxl/))
(https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41015.0;attach=1441947;image)

They clearly look like Raptor talons to me.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 08/11/2017 09:20 PM

They clearly look like Raptor talons to me.


Don't let the ASDS's see them, they might refuse to leave port and delay lunch!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 08/13/2017 01:17 AM
COTS/CRS and CCDev aren't really comparable. As Zubrin once said, it's the difference between à la carte and a banquet.
Then what is Orion?

Soylent Green.

People?

Yup. More specifically, feeding people to people.

In an alternate, dystopian reality, we could experience:
*Barbra Streisand voice*

"People...People eating...people
Are the luckiest people in the world..."
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 08/13/2017 07:10 PM
Thanks to someone seeing the similarities on Twitter....actually, not far off! ;D

Hans Koenigsmann - Hollywood Actor

And Bryan Cranston - SpaceX VP Mission Assurance.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ChrisGebhardt on 08/13/2017 07:14 PM
Thanks to someone seeing the similarities on Twitter....actually, not far off! ;D

Hans Koenigsmann - Hollywood Actor

And Bryan Cranston - SpaceX VP Mission Assurance.

At least we know who'll play Hans in the upcoming movie about SpaceX. :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 08/13/2017 07:27 PM
Thanks to someone seeing the similarities on Twitter....actually, not far off! ;D

Hans Koenigsmann - Hollywood Actor

And Bryan Cranston - SpaceX VP Mission Assurance.

At least we know who'll play Hans in the upcoming movie about SpaceX. :)
He'll have to have a line or two about the strut and the COPV. Those items Broke Badly.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Norm38 on 08/14/2017 01:40 PM
From SpaceX.com homepage

This looks like a shot out of Kubrick's 2001.  The F9 is talking to the Monolith.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JAFO on 08/14/2017 04:13 PM
What'sa matter, Space Geeks, Monday Blues and no chatter? You gotten jaded? "Ho hum, just another Space X launch and rocket coming in to land. No need to party any more."


Checking in from my layover in Hangzhou. I'm almost exactly halfway around the world, it's midnight here, they're cracking down on VPNs and the Great Firewall is blocking youtube so I can't get a signal on my laptop, and I've resorted to watching it on my work computer via a slow 2g connection, but I'm still excited and watching what I can.


Get off yer chairs, get yer rally caps on, and make some noise!!!!



Steve
Space Geek since 1961

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 08/14/2017 04:17 PM
Going so long without a launch makes the countdown seem SO much longer.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 08/14/2017 04:22 PM
Fun fact, the SpaceX engineer broadcasting has his lapel mic mounted way too low on his shirt, causing the background noise to be much louder than it should be. Moving that up 4-6" would reduce the background noise by half.

I'm an audio and video systems engineer and I find that very annoying.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 08/14/2017 04:27 PM
T-5 minutes and launch control reports the "astro-mice" running wheels to flight speed...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JAFO on 08/14/2017 04:28 PM
I've found the only way to ruin a rocket launch: CNN International is broadcasting it (YAY!!!), Richard Quest is narrating it (YGTBFSM!!!)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 08/14/2017 04:50 PM
I usually don't mind Richard Quest - if he's in a good mood. Enjoyed the spectacular coverage, all the way over here in Helsinki which is not my usual roost! :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JAFO on 08/14/2017 04:53 PM
Ever try to watch a rocket launch on a 2g connection? Hope you never have to. Hoping someone uploads a recording of it soon.


Congrats, Space X!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Steven Pietrobon on 08/14/2017 05:04 PM
Its raining outside, so Leo came in to watch the launch with me.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 08/14/2017 05:18 PM
He's a good puss! I'm missing mine terribly.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: jon.amos on 08/14/2017 05:36 PM
Good God man that's a CRT!  This is the 21st century :o ::)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JAFO on 08/14/2017 05:38 PM
The hardest part of traveling for work. Leaving at oh-hurt-thirty one morning, we found one of our cats sleeping next to my suitcase by the door. She knew.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 08/14/2017 05:50 PM
Thanks to someone seeing the similarities on Twitter....actually, not far off! ;D

Hans Koenigsmann - Hollywood Actor

And Bryan Cranston - SpaceX VP Mission Assurance.

Bryan Cranston has Babylon 5 cred, too.  He played an Anla'Shok White Star captain, Ericcson, in "The Long Night."  (He died.)

EDIT:
-Sheridan-
"Are you a married man, Ericcson?"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Mongo62 on 08/14/2017 07:08 PM
Good God man that's a CRT!  This is the 21st century :o ::)

If it still works, why spend money for a new monitor? Especially since flat-screen monitors don't last too long, compared to CRT monitors. I still use a 15-year-old CRT monitor, and it works just fine!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 08/14/2017 07:45 PM
Thanks to someone seeing the similarities on Twitter....actually, not far off! ;D

Hans Koenigsmann - Hollywood Actor

And Bryan Cranston - SpaceX VP Mission Assurance.

Bryan Cranston has Babylon 5 cred, too.  He played an Anla'Shok White Star captain, Ericcson, in "The Long Night."  (He died.)
Whoa.  My mind never made that connection until now.  Guess it's about time to start another run... now, which of the three beginnings do I want to start with?

(Just kidding.  Nobody would start with the original pilot over The Gathering with Christopher Franke's score.)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 08/14/2017 08:12 PM
Thanks to someone seeing the similarities on Twitter....actually, not far off! ;D

Hans Koenigsmann - Hollywood Actor

And Bryan Cranston - SpaceX VP Mission Assurance.

Bryan Cranston has Babylon 5 cred, too.  He played an Anla'Shok White Star captain, Ericcson, in "The Long Night."  (He died.)
Whoa.  My mind never made that connection until now.  Guess it's about time to start another run... now, which of the three beginnings do I want to start with?

(Just kidding.  Nobody would start with the original pilot over The Gathering with Christopher Franke's score.)
There were fans back in '93-'94 who initially preferred Stewart Copeland's (of The Police) scoring of "The Gathering" over the introduction of Christopher Franke as the series composer.

I prefer JMS' re-cutting and Franke's re-scoring of "The Gathering" over the original work.  However, I think some content was removed in the process?  (JMS has commented that the original final edit was a director's cut--Richard Compton's--than his own--a producer's cut.  He regretted this, and got a re-do when Warner Bros. offered to pay for such.)

(Now I remember!--the sequence where Cmdr. Sinclair and Lyta Alexander take the shortcut through the Alien Sector was almost completely edited out--some fans had complained that the aliens looked like they were specimens on display in a zoo.  I always thought it looked more like people sitting outside on their front stoop, watching the action on the street.  But what do I know?)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Zed_Noir on 08/14/2017 08:42 PM
Good God man that's a CRT!  This is the 21st century :o ::)

If it still works, why spend money for a new monitor? Especially since flat-screen monitors don't last too long, compared to CRT monitors. I still use a 15-year-old CRT monitor, and it works just fine!

Think you used a lot more electricity with a CRT monitor which also have high waste heat outflow and bulky. Also most of the older CRT monitor have the 4:3 aspect ratio narrow screen display format. Finally some of the older CRT monitors emits excessive EM radiation.

If you can work with the limitations listed above for large CRT monitor than you should use it until the end of its service life.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 08/14/2017 11:09 PM
Spacex is getting good at this. Successful launch on time without any spiritual backup from me this time. Nice.  8)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 08/14/2017 11:44 PM
That shadow tho
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Bubbinski on 08/15/2017 12:20 AM
The dog days are ending. This launch is almost exactly one week from the eclipse. And we've got Atlas & Minotaur launches coming up, Iridium from Vandy and the X-37 launch. The first launch of a winged reusable Shuttle type spacecraft from 39A since Jul 2011. Our patience is being rewarded :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 08/15/2017 04:13 AM
Fun fact, the SpaceX engineer broadcasting has his lapel mic mounted way too low on his shirt, causing the background noise to be much louder than it should be. Moving that up 4-6" would reduce the background noise by half.

I'm an audio and video systems engineer and I find that very annoying.

Not as bad as the earlier launch, don't remember which, when it sounded like someone on the net was eating doritos.  Was one of the first launches after they "upgraded" their coverage game.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: gadgetmind on 08/15/2017 09:09 AM
He's a good puss! I'm missing mine terribly.

Mine brought me a live mouse *just* before the landing and released it in my (less than tidy) underground lair!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 08/15/2017 10:06 AM
He's a good puss! I'm missing mine terribly.

Mine brought me a live mouse *just* before the landing and released it in my (less than tidy) underground lair!
One of my cats is about 17 years old and she still catches mice and rats! I'm literally on the other side of the world from home at the moment - I'm in Lapland, Finland. And I'm missing my six cats.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 08/15/2017 05:52 PM
Good God man that's a CRT!  This is the 21st century :o ::)
I think it is appropriate since it is a CAT-hode ray tube.  ::)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rpapo on 08/15/2017 05:55 PM
Groan...  When I was in college we joked about a malady we called "CRT-eyes" (a terminal illness).
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 08/15/2017 06:57 PM
Groan...  When I was in college we joked about a malady we called "CRT-eyes" (a terminal illness).

Oh yes. My eyes got wrecked with green-dot screens doing programming in the 80s
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: toren on 08/15/2017 08:27 PM
Groan...  When I was in college we joked about a malady we called "CRT-eyes" (a terminal illness).

Oh yes. My eyes got wrecked with green-dot screens doing programming in the 80s

Ugh, smeary green dots on old NTSC screens, makes my head hurt just thinking about it again.  How did we get anything done back then? :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 08/16/2017 01:21 AM
Oh yes. My eyes got wrecked with green-dot screens doing programming in the 80s
They got nothing on what these modern smart phones do to your eyes.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: DanseMacabre on 08/17/2017 12:32 PM
Where was that video shot from? Looks like a great place to watch a landing.

The sonic boom arrives 11 or 12 seconds before landing.
This is MUCH earlier than what was experienced at OSB-II, which is 10.5 miles (~55 kft)
12 seconds is ~14 kft, and if there was a 5 sec delay at the OSB-11 (just guessing) that makes it ~20 kft closer for a distance of ~35 kft or ~6 miles
Jetty park is ~ 5 miles from LC-1.  Rt-401 is about 6.5 miles.
For those that have watched, which does it look like?

well looks like it was shot from here, see map

We are talking about CRS-12, not CRS-7 here, right?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mme on 08/17/2017 04:12 PM
Live - Peggy and Jack emptying Dragon.
Wait, is that ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3Dju2i4FZw
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 08/18/2017 12:03 AM
1984, what a year for music!  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 08/23/2017 02:13 AM
Just like a cake, the same things have to be done to make and fly one.

For clarification, what exactly needs to be done to fly a cake?  I'm assuming it has to do with correctly balancing the Layers/Decorations (L/D)?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 08/23/2017 03:09 AM
Just like a cake, the same things have to be done to make and fly one.

For clarification, what exactly needs to be done to fly a cake?  I'm assuming it has to do with correctly balancing the Layers/Decorations (L/D)?
For starters: the cake will fly much better WITHOUT de-icing equipment installed.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 08/24/2017 06:39 PM
So does anyone know how to keep the SpaceX stream audio from showing up in a google hangout while attending a remote meeting. (Without muting it)

Just asking for a friend....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 08/24/2017 06:41 PM
So does anyone know how to keep the SpaceX stream audio from showing up in a google hangout while attending a remote meeting. (Without muting it)

Just asking for a friend....
Can you your friend take an early launchlunch break?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 08/24/2017 06:45 PM
You mean a late Launch? Kinda suspicious when the friend just came back from a launch at the Chinese place down the road missing the daily dreaded 1:30 Agile Stand up Huddle with the rest of the east coast Software and SQA team :-D

Whining something about putting the fanasty foozeball(???sp???) comis in HEO for unspecified micro management.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: launchwatcher on 08/24/2017 06:49 PM
Can someone run out with a squeegee and some windex to clean that lens?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 08/24/2017 06:50 PM
Oh no, Falcon is very shy - camouflage venting!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 08/24/2017 07:10 PM
That was kinda boring. I can't believe I just said that.  I mean, it was boring in a good way but the thrill isn't quite as intense after N successful landings in a row.  Had to giggle that the rocket cam showed it landed but the JRTI cam didn't.

Anyone manage to get a shot of the fairing as it left town?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: bjornl on 08/24/2017 07:27 PM
Man, that was boring. The soccer game I was watching in tandem was more exciting!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 08/24/2017 07:36 PM
Don't know about boring, one of the  junior ME's walked in and was asking all sorts of weird question about it, just not grasping what he was seeing. You mean they just dropped a rocket stage from space onto a barge several hundred miles down range out at asea? How many things are in orbit, really, and are active, really? How do they all move out of the way from each other? It's 500 km up? Best part is he is off to congratulate a school mate that now works for SpaceX out on the west coast.... To be a fly on the wall for that interesting conversation.

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 08/24/2017 08:25 PM
Don't know about boring, one of the  junior ME's walked in and was asking all sorts of weird question about it, just not grasping what he was seeing. You mean they just dropped a rocket stage from space onto a barge several hundred miles down range out at asea? How many things are in orbit, really, and are active, really? How do they all move out of the way from each other? It's 500 km up? Best part is he is off to congratulate a school mate that now works for SpaceX out on the west coast.... To be a fly on the wall for that interesting conversation.

Ah, someone else who seems to need the dread "in space =/= in orbit" talk, though, somewhat surprisingly, from the opposite direction than is usually indicated.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: bjornl on 08/24/2017 09:23 PM
Don't know about boring
Well, a bit of hyperbole should be allowed in a party thread :-*
Seriously, the heart-skipping-a-beat launches for Falcon 9 are a thing of the past for me. Time for a new chall- OH HI FALCON HEAVY!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 08/24/2017 09:43 PM
Don't know about boring
Well, a bit of hyperbole should be allowed in a party thread :-*
Seriously, the heart-skipping-a-beat launches for Falcon 9 are a thing of the past for me. Time for a new chall- OH HI FALCON HEAVY!

Still edge of seat for me... too much riding on each flight, in addition to a payload.

Heavy will be more fun than these must-succeed flights, though it will also be edge of seat for different reasons.  Many pieces to recover even after the hat trick.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 08/24/2017 11:16 PM
For Falcon Heavy, I'll have to sit on the edge of three seats.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 08/25/2017 04:13 AM
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

From: 30th Space Wing Public Affairs, www.vandenberg.af.mil

FALCON 9 LAUNCHES FROM VANDENBERG

VANDENBERG AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. -  Team Vandenberg launched the FORMOSAT-5
satellite on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket from Space Launch Complex-4 here
Thursday, Aug. 24, at 11:51 a.m. PDT.

Col. Gregory E. Wood , 30th Space Wing vice commander, was the launch safety
authority.

"The 30th Space Wing takes great pride in supporting another successful SpaceX
launch," said Wood. "It is a sterling example of the wing's commitment to
public safety and mission success on the Western Range."

SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket delivers FORMOSAT-5, an Earth observation satellite
for Taiwan's National Space Organization, to a low-Earth orbit.

"The Falcon 9 launch of Formosat-5 was an incredible mission to be a part of!
This was the first satellite manufactured and integrated entirely by Taiwan
and it was also the fastest turn-around time between Falcon launches here at
Space Launch Complex-4," said Capt. Kylie Prachar, Air Force Launch Commander
for F9-40 Formosat-5 mission, 1st Air and Space Test Squadron. "Our Air Force
team put in a lot of work to support the mission and provide Fleet
Surveillance on behalf of the Space and Missile Systems Center."

FORMOSAT-5 will operate in a sun synchronous orbit at an altitude of 720-km
with a 98.28 degree inclination angle. As with the FORMOSAT-2 satellite, the
primary payload on FORMOSAT-5 is an optical Remote Sensing Instrument (RSI),
which provides 2-meter resolution panchromatic (black & white) and 4-meter
resolution multi-spectral (color) images. FORMOSAT-5 also hosts a secondary
scientific payload, an Advanced Ionospheric Probe, developed by Taiwan's
National Central University.

I'd like to congratulate the public affairs officer for the 30th Space Wing for waiting until the mission is actually fully successful before putting out their press release, instead of firing it out immediately after lift-off like they usually seem to do.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jarnis on 08/25/2017 12:42 PM
For Falcon Heavy, I'll have to sit on the edge of three seats.

Just curious, do you have procedures in place for seat separation at the appropriate phase of the flight so you'll continue sitting on the edge of only one seat once boosters have done their job?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 08/25/2017 01:37 PM
For Falcon Heavy, I'll have to sit on the edge of three seats.

Just curious, do you have procedures in place for seat separation at the appropriate phase of the flight so you'll continue sitting on the edge of only one seat once boosters have done their job?

Now that's an idea.  Start off in the middle of a three-segment sectional with center ottoman, then at booster sep, drop the sides for something more like a chaise lounge configuration.  When the center core drops off, move forward to ottoman-only position.  And at payload sep, you jump off and cheer.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 08/26/2017 09:25 PM
For Falcon Heavy, I'll have to sit on the edge of three seats.

Just curious, do you have procedures in place for seat separation at the appropriate phase of the flight so you'll continue sitting on the edge of only one seat once boosters have done their job?

Now that's an idea.  Start off in the middle of a three-segment sectional with center ottoman, then at booster sep, drop the sides for something more like a chaise lounge configuration.  When the center core drops off, move forward to ottoman-only position.  And at payload sep, you jump off and cheer.

Would you say " Three chairs for SpaceX!" ?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rpapo on 08/26/2017 09:27 PM
Would you say " Three chairs for SpaceX!" ?
This thread needs a "Groan" button for such atrocious puns...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 08/27/2017 03:29 AM
Would you say " Three chairs for SpaceX!" ?

The side chairs are obviously for the hip and hip, so a big hooray for the center.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 08/27/2017 04:19 AM
Just wow.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: JAFO on 08/27/2017 04:39 AM
He's a good puss! I'm missing mine terribly.

Mine brought me a live mouse *just* before the landing and released it in my (less than tidy) underground lair!

Smart girl, she knows you gotta have food to make it a party.

Groan...  When I was in college we joked about a malady we called "CRT-eyes" (a terminal illness).

Oh yes. My eyes got wrecked with green-dot screens doing programming in the 80s

Ugh, smeary green dots on old NTSC screens, makes my head hurt just thinking about it again.  How did we get anything done back then? :D

Shii-yoot. How id we ever get it done with punchcards? Only good memory I have about them days was how great chads were for confetti. Hard as heck to get out of a shag carpet, tho.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 08/27/2017 02:27 PM
from my collection (NOT intended as an admonition)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 08/28/2017 05:34 PM
Would you say " Three chairs for SpaceX!" ?
This thread needs a "Groan" button for such atrocious puns...
That was the desired response ..
Convenient pun evaluation scale for you

Level zero- nothing, or  maybe a mild smile
Level one - small laugh or minor verbal expression including mimicking a typical drum sound machine "ba-da bum Ching"
Level two - grown .. "buuyaaaa" etc.
Level three  - falling on the floor,  laughing uncontrollably, milk or soda coming out nose etc.
Level four - (note: these puns are so bad they require a trigger warning label)
         physical distress like cardiac arrest, brain aneurysm, etc.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 08/28/2017 05:43 PM
Too soon to propose separate party thread for the FH?

"Launch, land, land, land, and relaunch FH party thread"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 08/28/2017 09:05 PM
we seem to be doing OK with just the one thread.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Cherokee43v6 on 08/28/2017 09:09 PM
Too soon to propose separate party thread for the FH?

"Launch, land, land, land, and relaunch FH party thread"

Got a nasty skip in the music track there.  Might wa wa want to look at that. ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 08/29/2017 02:43 PM
Too soon to propose separate party thread for the FH?

"Launch, land, land, land, and relaunch FH party thread"

To be a considered a heavy thread, doesn't it require three threads?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 08/30/2017 04:35 PM
we seem to be doing OK with just the one thread.
Could temporarily rename this thread when the time comes possibly.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: the_other_Doug on 08/30/2017 06:02 PM
For a short-term FH party thread, I'd suggest the name "He ain't Heavy -- he's my Falcon"...  :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 08/30/2017 06:11 PM
we want heavy though.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 08/30/2017 06:42 PM
Well, you know the saying, "If at first you do succeed, land, land again."
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 08/30/2017 08:44 PM
May have to wait till we know the "payload"
If it's a bus it opens up a host of possibilities
FH demo Magic bus space tour
FH demo Bus-ta-move
Etc.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 08/30/2017 09:13 PM
I've suggested before the FH party thread should be along the lines of 'We like big boosters and we cannot lie...'
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 08/31/2017 05:22 PM
Re: Elon Musk and the recent Formosat-5/Stage 1 return
No bragging. This is just the first round in prepping all of us for a surprise.

My (uninformed) speculations re the Surprise:

Elon has a secret paleo-biogenetics lab, funded from his sizable personal fortune.

His minions have bred Pleistocene fauna and flora from DNA samples obtained in the La Brea tarpits of Los Angeles...

He has obtained one of the Catalina Islands for an open-range display of his Ice Age menagerie, which will be open to visitors interested in purchasing tickets on the ultimate "advent-ucation."

Another revenue stream: Pay-per-view fees of Youtube video of saber-tooth cats riding SpaceX Roombas...
***

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdX6fwfrULI

"Someday, maybe Fred will win the fight/
Then that cat will stay out for the night!"

EDIT: Added the Flintstones opening/ending credit Youtube link.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 08/31/2017 05:29 PM
Re: Elon Musk and the recent Formosat-5/Stage 1 return
No bragging. This is just the first round in prepping all of us for a surprise.

My (uninformed) speculations re the Surprise:

Elon has a secret paleo-biogenetics lab, funded from his sizable personal fortune.

His minions have bred Pleistocene fauna and flora from DNA samples obtained in the La Brea tarpits of Los Angeles...

He has obtained one of the Catalina Islands for an open-range display of his Ice Age menagerie, which will be open to visitors interested in purchasing tickets on the ultimate "advent-ucation."

Another revenue stream: Pay-per-view fees of Youtube video of saber-tooth cats riding SpaceX Roombas...
( edit: cue the Flinstones cartoon theme music...)
Sounds like 'a Yabba-dabba do time ... a yabba-do time! We'll have a gay old time! '
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 09/01/2017 01:44 PM
Can I just ask why can't people understand that number of sides on OTV-5's fuzzy dice is a secret and that is why there will be no video from inside the fairing.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Cherokee43v6 on 09/01/2017 02:04 PM
For a short-term FH party thread, I'd suggest the name "He ain't Heavy -- he's my Falcon"...  :D

Hmmm...

Heavy Falcon...

Deufalconium?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 09/01/2017 05:21 PM
For a short-term FH party thread, I'd suggest the name "He ain't Heavy -- he's my Falcon"...  :D

Hmmm...

Heavy Falcon...

Deufalconium?
Clearly not. Terfalconium or something similar.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: IntoTheVoid on 09/01/2017 07:53 PM
I see as much likelihood of the F9 US "evolving" into ITS as I see a tortoise evolving into a sperm whale. But please continue to explain what you have in mind. If it's so simple it should be simple to explain.

I think your analogy is confused, because if you already had a tortoise then you'd probably want to evolve it into Gamera to get it space rated. The F9 US is much more shaped like the sperm whale, and the tortoise already has landing legs. So... If you were instead trying to evolve a sperm whale into a tortoise, then clearly you would look to transition through a sea turtle.

(https://dcairns.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/vlcsnap-2015-08-02-20h49m57s6.png)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CJ on 09/02/2017 02:55 AM
I have to say that I find the remarks of "it was Boring" shocking and rather off topic! After all, Tesla is off topic for this site (I think?) so shouldn't Elon's other companies be likewise OT? (I'm referring to The Boring Company, of course).

:p
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 09/04/2017 07:53 PM
Here comes the sun!!!!

I know I'm off topic, but bets if earth facing sunspot 2673 will belch out an X class flare (3 M class since Sunday) and cause a scrub?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CJ on 09/04/2017 10:01 PM
Here comes the sun!!!!

I know I'm off topic, but bets if earth facing sunspot 2673 will belch out an X class flare (3 M class since Sunday) and cause a scrub?

An X-class flare causing a SpaceX scrub?!?! You'd think SpaceX would be a bit more careful with their X-stuff than to allow that kind of scheduling conflict to happen!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 09/04/2017 11:36 PM
Are you implying that X-Class flares are all part of the secretX plans coming from the secretX volcanicX IslandX lair?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 09/05/2017 04:57 AM
ShhhX!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: the_other_Doug on 09/05/2017 04:06 PM
Here comes the sun!!!!

I know I'm off topic, but bets if earth facing sunspot 2673 will belch out an X class flare (3 M class since Sunday) and cause a scrub?

An X-class flare causing a SpaceX scrub?!?! You'd think SpaceX would be a bit more careful with their X-stuff than to allow that kind of scheduling conflict to happen!

And note, it's launching the X-37... hmm, I smell an X-spiracy!

I'll have to watch it all on Xfinity... :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 09/05/2017 06:19 PM
It looks like there's a dog driving as well.  No wonder SpaceX can undercut the competition: they pay in dog-food and treats!

That's the passenger side, we drive on the other side of the road ;-)

He's just along for the ride as the AI takes the rig for a spin.

I was referring to what looks like the ear of a second doggy visible on the driver's side.  I did spend most of the 90's driving on the wrong side of the road (UK), but now I drive on the right side!

Must not live in the country, the bigger the SUV, the more likely it will be driving down the center of both lanes...

btw. When I blow up that image, I'm pretty sure it's a cat, not a dog in the drivers seat.

I agree with darkenfast--I see the lop-ear of a smaller, second dog in the (left side) driver's seat.
***

Re: the apparent driver-dog--my experience tells me he or she is not a sight hound.  My (dearly departed) saluki was perfectly happy to let his human chauffeur the horseless-chariot.

(I sometimes think that I would have liked to converse with Charles Schulz about Snoopy--I think Snoopy acted much more like a saluki than a beagle.  Example: the relationship between Snoopy and his "round-headed kid.")
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 09/05/2017 07:50 PM
Cue the dogs driving on the wrong side of the road video's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eJ4WxEXpac
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: IntoTheVoid on 09/06/2017 01:33 PM
Seems pretty clear to me, and probably everyone in the U.S., that OTV-5 is putting up a payload for the IRS given that it's going up on core 1040.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 09/06/2017 02:10 PM
I think SpaceX just lost control of the X making machine, The sun just beltched out a long duration X2 and X9 flare...

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 09/06/2017 05:37 PM
We had plans to go to KSC today and tomorrow, but with gas so hard to get here in the Tampa area with Irma looming, we stayed home.  Instead, my family on the east coast are boarding up windows.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 09/06/2017 05:40 PM
If X-37 scrubs because of Irma, that would "really blow"

(I'm here all week, try the veal)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 09/06/2017 08:39 PM
Even worse, an X flare causes a scrub.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rangertech1 on 09/07/2017 02:00 AM
 :
Even worse, an X flare causes a scrub.
Your ripping through some mountain turns, then around the next, you see a semi truck that seems to be drfting into your lane.  :o
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 09/07/2017 02:05 AM
If X-37 scrubs because of Irma, that would "really blow"

(I'm here all week, try the veal)
  http://instantrimshot.com/?play=true   :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 09/07/2017 05:40 AM
If defying hurricanes is the game, its got to be done properly.

[spoiler] Launch through the eye! [/spoiler]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marooned_(1969_film)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: catdlr on 09/07/2017 06:09 AM
If defying hurricanes is the game, its got to be done properly.

[spoiler] Launch through the eye! [/spoiler]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marooned_(1969_film)

and the video clip:

Marooned - 1969 Gene Hackman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD1hbplN4DE?t=001

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD1hbplN4DE
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 09/07/2017 01:07 PM
My model. The hurricane was one that was over Florida in 2004 or so.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: FutureSpaceTourist on 09/07/2017 01:29 PM
An important culinary update that I know you've all been waiting for:

Quote
Robin Seemangal‏ Verified account @nova_road 6m6 minutes ago

SpaceX came through with donuts.
https://twitter.com/nova_road/status/905783157659750400

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Trevor Mahlmann‏ @TrevorMahlmann 5m5 minutes ago

Damn, donuts to yourself?!
https://twitter.com/TrevorMahlmann/status/905783377516789760

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Robin Seemangal‏ Verified account @nova_road 4m4 minutes ago

The donut to human ratio is high. I may indulge.
https://twitter.com/nova_road/status/905784016774852608
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 09/07/2017 01:48 PM
Can you imagine how difficult it is to work in a hurricane, a space spyplane launch, another hurricane, and the lottery into one prayer? God thought I was off my meds again.  :o
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Norm38 on 09/07/2017 02:21 PM
That last minute second leg deploy always makes me nervous.  Watching the landing pad get bigger and bigger I keep saying "Gear down! Gear down!"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 09/07/2017 02:43 PM
I guess spaceX does control the X machine, they managed to slip lunch between an M7 and an X1 flare!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Celebrimbor on 09/07/2017 03:44 PM
Huh. Neat launch.

So how come no one else is landing and reusing rockets?  Looks easy...

Sorry gotta go!!

😂
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Steve D on 09/07/2017 03:57 PM
We have to wait almost a whole MONTH before we fly again!!!!! Remember when once a month was exciting and everyone thought they couldn't keep up that pace????
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 09/07/2017 03:59 PM
So how come no one else is landing and reusing rockets?  Looks easy...

Jeff Bezos, you have a Doubting Thomas on line 1 ...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jarnis on 09/07/2017 04:11 PM
We have to wait almost a whole MONTH before we fly again!!!!! Remember when once a month was exciting and everyone thought they couldn't keep up that pace????

Well, on the upside that gives some time to clean up the mess that is barrelling down towards Cape from the south without automatically messing up the launch schedule. Here's hoping they don't get to rebuild any pads (again!) or hangars...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 09/12/2017 04:05 PM
Uh....anyone hear from Jim??...last heard he was heading to Clearwater...in the path  of the storm ..

Jim's like Chuck Norris. He'll be fine.
So you're saying Irma changed course and didn't make direct landfall in Tampa to avoid going eye to eye with him?

Well you know the Rideout team were in a secure location to ensure their safety? It was just a normal office with Jim at the door.
Jim was in Clearwater (the water cleared up when it heard he was coming) and so they had to use just a picture...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 09/12/2017 06:57 PM
Uh....anyone hear from Jim??...last heard he was heading to Clearwater...in the path  of the storm ..

Jim's like Chuck Norris. He'll be fine.
So you're saying Irma changed course and didn't make direct landfall in Tampa to avoid going eye to eye with him?

Well you know the Rideout team were in a secure location to ensure their safety? It was just a normal office with Jim at the door.
Jim was in Clearwater (the water cleared up when it heard he was coming) and so they had to use just a picture...
Jim to storm: "No"
Storm ... runs away
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 09/13/2017 07:08 PM
If we had a party thread for the SES 11/ Echostar launch reusing an F9 stage 1, what would it be called ?

SES it again F9, again F9 agai...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 09/13/2017 07:31 PM
If we had a party thread for the SES 11/ Echostar launch reusing an F9 stage 1, what would it be called ?

Launch, Land, Launch, Land...... Is there an Echostar in the room?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 09/14/2017 07:27 AM
How not to land a orbital rocket booster

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZA0s7EAmF1/

Edit: Now longer and in HD!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvim4rsNHkQ
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 09/14/2017 12:41 PM
Deserved standalone thread for that ;)

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43737.0
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 09/14/2017 08:01 PM
NSF Video Recovery footage makes it in there too! ;D

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/06/recovering-falcon-9-ocean-landing-video-done/
Sadly, uncredited but still cool.

I think the dancing rocket on deck is my fave part of a vid that has a LOT to love...
Airplane movie...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l2iIq3zaP6k#t=6m07s
Flight F9 Now arriving at gate 10... 11... gate 12
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 09/14/2017 11:07 PM
SpaceX's Greatest Hits!  ;D :P 8)
For more than one meaning of the word "hit" ...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: intrepidpursuit on 09/15/2017 04:09 AM
I showed my wife the video and that led to explaining flight termination systems. She has now decided that her dream job is "designated rocket exploder".

I didn't break the news that a computer already stole her job.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: coypu76 on 09/20/2017 03:16 PM
There have been so many photos looking up at the landed booster in front of SpaceX HQ at Hawthorne that sometimes we fail to apprehend the sheer size of the booster.  I made this graphic for the SpaceX Facebook group to help illustrate how big those grid fins are up at the top of the booster.  :D

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 09/20/2017 04:41 PM
They don't look very happy to be there.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: billh on 09/20/2017 06:03 PM
They don't look very happy to be there.
It was his idea. They had an argument. QED
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: the_other_Doug on 09/20/2017 06:21 PM
OK, I can understand that Serta put in the low bid for fabricating the titanium grid fins, but, um... there needs to be some better corporate communications, here, about appropriate product testing... :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachF on 09/20/2017 06:37 PM
OK, I can understand that Serta put in the low bid for fabricating the titanium grid fins, but, um... there needs to be some better corporate communications, here, about appropriate product testing... :D

The wife is angry husband didn't get MyPillow, her pillow is not machine warshable.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: woods170 on 09/20/2017 06:43 PM
OK, I can understand that Serta put in the low bid for fabricating the titanium grid fins, but, um... there needs to be some better corporate communications, here, about appropriate product testing... :D

The wife is angry husband didn't get MyPillow, her pillow is not machine warshable.
Man, this turned into yet another Party thread real quick.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 09/20/2017 06:47 PM
OK, I can understand that Serta put in the low bid for fabricating the titanium grid fins, but, um... there needs to be some better corporate communications, here, about appropriate product testing... :D

With that much cold shoulder on show I think the cooling effect would make the swap to titanium unnecessary.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: the_other_Doug on 09/20/2017 06:50 PM
OK, I can understand that Serta put in the low bid for fabricating the titanium grid fins, but, um... there needs to be some better corporate communications, here, about appropriate product testing... :D

The wife is angry husband didn't get MyPillow, her pillow is not machine warshable(*).

Oh, don't worry -- some time in the next minute and thirty-eight seconds or so, those people will have a lot more to worry about than whether or not any of their ensemble is machine-washable... :D

I might suggest this thread could more appropriately be appended to the party thread?  Just a thought, seems it would belong there.  :)


(*) -- I will never call out typos and misspellings, as I have enough of them myself.  But this is an exception.  You see, while I am originally from Illinois and was raised with that flat Midwest accent that is the envy of every news reader throughout the nation, my mother's family is from rural Indiana.  She and her family (and everyone from that region) sport a variation on the Kentucky-Tennessee southern accent.  It is distinctive in that, among other things, the word "wash" is invariably pronounced "warsh".  Also, as in a standard southern American dialect, the short "i" vowel sound is often pronounced more like a long "e", such that I would hear the phrase "warsh the deeshes" when one of my relatives meant to say "wash the dishes".  So, whenever I see someone write "warsh", I nearly fall out of my chair, laughing... :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachF on 09/20/2017 06:59 PM
OK, I can understand that Serta put in the low bid for fabricating the titanium grid fins, but, um... there needs to be some better corporate communications, here, about appropriate product testing... :D

The wife is angry husband didn't get MyPillow, her pillow is not machine warshable.
Man, this turned into yet another Party thread real quick.

If I had photoshop skills I would put a scale mariachi band with Elon dancing at the base of a landed Falcon 9 (To keep on topic, of course)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 09/20/2017 07:10 PM
OK, I can understand that Serta put in the low bid for fabricating the titanium grid fins, but, um... there needs to be some better corporate communications, here, about appropriate product testing... :D

The wife is angry husband didn't get MyPillow, her pillow is not machine warshable.
Man, this turned into yet another Party thread real quick.

This post is now hilarious after I merged the other thread into this thread. ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 09/20/2017 08:33 PM
There have been so many photos looking up at the landed booster in front of SpaceX HQ at Hawthorne that sometimes we fail to apprehend the sheer size of the booster.  I made this graphic for the SpaceX Facebook group to help illustrate how big those grid fins are up at the top of the booster.  :D
Captions:

A).  Johnson, party of two ... your gridfin is available ...

B)    For weight and balance reasons, we are recruiting additional couples (for the other gridfins)

Or the obvious:
       Overheard on the way up...
           "I SAID this toga party is a real drag..."
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: coypu76 on 09/20/2017 10:09 PM
Her thoughts: "Why won't he talk to me?  Am I getting fat?  What's wrong with our relationship?  Have I lost him completely?  Is he thinking about someone else?  Is it OVER?"

His thoughts:  "Dang, this is a big freakin' booster!  I mean, look, TWO of us can fit on one of these grid fins!"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 09/20/2017 10:12 PM
There have been so many photos looking up at the landed booster in front of SpaceX HQ at Hawthorne that sometimes we fail to apprehend the sheer size of the booster.  I made this graphic for the SpaceX Facebook group to help illustrate how big those grid fins are up at the top of the booster.  :D
I think your scale is off...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: catdlr on 09/21/2017 02:59 AM
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Falcon 9’s first stage is equipped with hypersonic grid fins which manipulate the direction of the stage’s lift during reentry. The fins are placed in an X-wing configuration and are stored on the ascent and deployed during reentry. While the fins are relatively small – they measure just 4 feet by 5 feet – they can roll, pitch, and yaw the 14-story stage up to 20 degrees in order to target a precision landing.

source: http://www.spacex.com/news/2015/08/31/grid-fins
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 09/21/2017 12:01 PM
They're really small people! Just like the ones that they use for advertising airline seat spacing, roominess of sub-micro-compact car back seats, portion sizes at cheap restaurants, etc.

OK maybe not
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 09/21/2017 01:30 PM
I think the scale is actually reasonable.  It's not like they look comfortable.  And the more recent picture is very misleading about the length of the fins (they are longer than they are wide) due to the camera angle.

This is getting way too picky for a party thread, in my opinion.  BOO.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 09/21/2017 02:26 PM
It's not a party thread unless you can debate how many Falcon Heavies can dance on the deck of an ASDS.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 09/21/2017 03:49 PM
I think the scale is actually reasonable.  It's not like they look comfortable.  And the more recent picture is very misleading about the length of the fins (they are longer than they are wide) due to the camera angle.

This is getting way too picky for a party thread, in my opinion.  BOO.
Also the pic with the people sleeping is of the new Ti fins which are larger than the Al ones in the other pic and for which dimensions were given. The Ti ones aren’t massively larger but they are larger.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 09/21/2017 09:42 PM

Literally, everything in moderation...  ;)

Including moderation?

I find your intolerance of my tolerance of his moderation of moderation to be intolerable! And don't call me a hypocrite for pointing out the hypocrisy of you pointing out my other hypocrisy!

(The above is a summary of 90% of the stupid arguments on the internet).
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: gongora on 09/21/2017 11:46 PM
Hmmm, a drag race that includes a Tesla and takes place on the runway of VAFB.  That's completely on topic here, right?
http://www.motortrend.com/news/worlds-greatest-drag-race_7/ (http://www.motortrend.com/news/worlds-greatest-drag-race_7/)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 09/22/2017 01:42 PM
Hmmm, a drag race that includes a Tesla and takes place on the runway of VAFB.  That's completely on topic here, right?
http://www.motortrend.com/news/worlds-greatest-drag-race_7/ (http://www.motortrend.com/news/worlds-greatest-drag-race_7/)
As much as the USAF switching to Telsa chase cars on the only plane still flying on the edge of space...
https://electrek.co/2017/07/27/tesla-model-s-chaser-car-launch-spy-planes-royal-air-force/
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rpapo on 09/22/2017 01:45 PM
Much more Tesla talk around here and Chris may pull this device out:
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 09/22/2017 04:29 PM
Much more Tesla talk around here and Chris may pull this device out:

That will spark off a whole new conversation....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 09/22/2017 05:44 PM


Much more Tesla talk around here and Chris may pull this device out:

That will spark off a whole new conversation....

I don't know. Most folks around here are down to earth, well grounded people...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kch on 09/22/2017 06:05 PM

Literally, everything in moderation...  ;)

Including moderation?

I find your intolerance of my tolerance of his moderation of moderation to be intolerable! And don't call me a hypocrite for pointing out the hypocrisy of you pointing out my other hypocrisy!

(The above is a summary of 90% of the stupid arguments on the internet).

Sturgeon's Law lives ... :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Kansan52 on 09/22/2017 06:45 PM
Dang my memory, I thought that was Clarke's Law but his is "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 09/24/2017 05:26 AM
Wondering how Chris's StarTrek NG marathon is going while waiting for lunch!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Craftyatom on 09/29/2017 06:02 AM
From the SpaceX at IAC 2017 discussion thread:
The biggest, most obvious customer that no one really wants to say out loud for point-to-point like that (at least at first) is soldiers and bombs....
Just a funny thought, but Shotwell said earlier today (https://twitter.com/charlottelowey/status/913145922976190464) that SpaceX is, in some capacity, looking into fissile material to run NTR.  Which means that they would have ability to deliver as much as 50 tons of anything to anywhere on Earth within an hour, as well as nuclear material.  Throw in some nuclear power plants as a cover for Pu/H3 breeders and you have a non-government entity with first-strike thermonuclear capability!

North Korea got to orbit 4 years behind SpaceX, and has been salty about it ever since.  If Elon can deliver a precision inter-continental strike before the DPRK, I know a certain portly head of state who won't be happy about it...  :P
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 09/29/2017 06:23 AM
Wondering how Chris's StarTrek NG marathon is going while waiting for lunch!
;)  http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-trek-next-generation-how-can-it-be-30-1044124
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Zed_Noir on 09/29/2017 06:47 AM
From the SpaceX at IAC 2017 discussion thread:
The biggest, most obvious customer that no one really wants to say out loud for point-to-point like that (at least at first) is soldiers and bombs....
Just a funny thought, but Shotwell said earlier today (https://twitter.com/charlottelowey/status/913145922976190464) that SpaceX is, in some capacity, looking into fissile material to run NTR.  Which means that they would have ability to deliver as much as 50 tons of anything to anywhere on Earth within an hour, as well as nuclear material.  Throw in some nuclear power plants as a cover for Pu/H3 breeders and you have a non-government entity with first-strike thermonuclear capability!

North Korea got to orbit 4 years behind SpaceX, and has been salty about it ever since.  If Elon can deliver a precision inter-continental strike before the DPRK, I know a certain portly head of state who won't be happy about it...  :P

Not enough imagination :(

There is no need for Nukes. Just use Rods of God (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment) to carpet bomb the DPRK.

See my reply (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43035.msg1728408#msg1728408) to @ZachF
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 09/29/2017 06:59 AM
Folks, we are slipping into non party attire.  Any more talk like this and it's blue uniform for youz.

edit:
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 09/29/2017 09:48 AM
The party thread and it's seven year quest to find OTV-5
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: woods170 on 09/29/2017 11:21 AM
The party thread and it's seven year quest to find OTV-5
All you have to do is camp out at KSC's Shuttle Landing Facility indefinitely.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachS09 on 09/29/2017 12:13 PM
All you have to do is camp out at KSC's Shuttle Landing Facility indefinitely.

Or near Vandenberg's Runway 12 if the Air Force decides to land at the West Coast.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: WBY1984 on 09/29/2017 01:41 PM
Really happy to see wings on the new ITS, since I tried to make an equivalent in KSP last year, but couldn't make it work due to balancing issues. My solution was adding delta wings on the back, so that CoM and CoL was balanced with varying payloads!  :P

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 09/29/2017 02:23 PM

Or near Vandenberg's Runway 12 if the Air Force decides to land at the West Coast.
Or you could get all nostalgic and hang at WSSH in case it has to make an emergency divert ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Cherokee43v6 on 09/29/2017 02:46 PM
Much more Tesla talk around here and Chris may pull this device out:

Is that 'The Doctor' testing his new anti-Dalek defenses?

Exterminate...  Exterminate...  EXTERMINATE!!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 10/02/2017 08:52 AM
Just think: in a few years we can change this into the "BFParty Thread"!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 10/02/2017 10:55 AM
Just think: in a few years we can change this into the "BFParty Thread"!

Don't forget to factor in the spaceX time dilation factor, aka time warp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkplPbd2f60
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 10/03/2017 05:38 PM
Just think: in a few years we can change this into the "BFParty Thread"!

Don't forget to factor in the spaceX time dilation factor, aka time warp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkplPbd2f60
Yes.  But schedules rarely jump to the left
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 10/03/2017 05:50 PM
Yes.  But schedules rarely jump to the left
These are rabid SpaceX fans we are talking about, the schedule always jumps to the left ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 10/03/2017 07:35 PM
European study on reusable rocket design... Prometheus/Callisto
Found here:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=41330.msg1730895#msg1730895

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Evaluation of Future Ariane Reusable VTOL Booster stages
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Reusability is anticipated to strongly impact the launch service market if sufficient reliability and low refurbishment costs can be achieved.  DLR is performing an extensive study on return methods for a reusable booster stage for a future launch vehicle.  The present study focuses on the vertical take-off and vertical landing (VTOL) method.  First, a restitution of a flight of Falcon 9 is resented in order to assess the accuracy of the tools used.

Conclusions involve RTLS and down-range landings, gas generator engines, same engine on second stage as on first (except for the vac nozzle); 11 engines on the 5.5m hydrolox version and 9 on the methlox version.  Imitation is sincerest form of flattery.

(bolding mine)

They can resent F9 all they want, it won't make them more competitive.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 10/03/2017 08:43 PM
Yes.  But schedules rarely jump to the left
These are rabid SpaceX fans we are talking about, the schedule always jumps to the left ;)
And then realistically it often steps to the right...

so put your hands on your hips.. (like the astronauts in the photos... no bucks, no buck rogers)
And bring your knees in tight ( cause you wouldn't want them flopping around during launch)
...(um something about thrust)... ( thrust, totally a rocket thing...We're on topic .... see!)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 10/04/2017 11:11 AM
Being on topic in the party thread is a penalty. Take a step to the right!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dodo on 10/05/2017 06:33 PM
Steps, you say? Have some steps!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LewVEF2B_pM
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 10/09/2017 05:26 AM
Hey!  Wher'd the Party go!
(puts lampshade on head)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 10/09/2017 11:06 AM
It's Monday...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 10/09/2017 12:26 PM
It's Monday...

It's early on Monday. Just not a great time to get a party started. Let's just meditate over our coffee instead. I can look like I'm working that way.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 10/09/2017 12:33 PM
It's Monday...

It's early on Monday. Just not a great time to get a party started. Let's just meditate over our coffee instead. I can look like I'm working that way.

I have early Monday too much coffee stomache, or is that launch nerves?  Never could sort that one out.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rhyshaelkan on 10/09/2017 12:47 PM
Lovely landing views.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 10/09/2017 12:48 PM
This would be a cool launch party song - but it'd have to be a cover version called 'Falcon Rock'!! ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXBUMKN4JEo
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 10/09/2017 12:56 PM
Anyone else see this during the big vent pre-launch?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: the_other_Doug on 10/09/2017 01:04 PM
That was cool -- in the very recent past, my cable box got a YouTube app provided, and my cable box has a voice-command feature, that lets me tell the remote what I want to look at.

So, all I had to do was press a button on my remote, say "SpaceX Iridium 3", et voila, there was a listing of items, for which the first two options were live feeds of the launch.

Of course, you have to speak clearly -- the first time I tried it this morning, it thought I said "Space sex launch"...  ???
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 10/09/2017 01:11 PM
That was cool -- ... it thought I said "Space sex launch"...  ???

Were there any actual search results for that? Just askin'... :-[
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: the_other_Doug on 10/09/2017 01:14 PM
That was cool -- ... it thought I said "Space sex launch"...  ???

Were there any actual search results for that? Just askin'... :-[

The system will always try and find a match... in this case, for some odd reason, it came up with a bunch of German-language films!   ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mvpel on 10/09/2017 01:47 PM
"If you're John Insprucker, you way over-explain things. It's what you do."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrT0qYdTiLY
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 10/09/2017 02:18 PM
I'm surprised nobody is talking about the secret launch SpaceX made this year.  John slipped up and let out that this is the 15th SpaceX launch this year...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 10/09/2017 02:27 PM
That was cool -- ... it thought I said "Space sex launch"...  ???

Were there any actual search results for that? Just askin'... :-[

The system will always try and find a match... in this case, for some odd reason, it came up with a bunch of German-language films!   ??? ??? ???

Might explain what Von Braun was really up to.  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: flyright on 10/09/2017 02:41 PM
I'm surprised nobody is talking about the secret launch SpaceX made this year.  John slipped up and let out that this is the 15th SpaceX launch this year...

I must have missed that. At the end of the "norminal" webcast he called it the 14th mission, and looking forward to the 15th in a couple days.
Not saying SpaceX hasn't flown a secret mission or two this year, though. They might be secretly testing cheese wheels in preparation for FH.  :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 10/09/2017 02:46 PM
It's at the beginning of the webcast.  I'm sure before the end someone let John know about his gaffe.  I imagine it went something like "psst John, we're not supposed to allude to that launch on April 1st from our hidden volcano lair!"
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ZachS09 on 10/09/2017 02:52 PM
I'm surprised nobody is talking about the secret launch SpaceX made this year.  John slipped up and let out that this is the 15th SpaceX launch this year...

I must have missed that. At the end of the "norminal" webcast he called it the 14th mission, and looking forward to the 15th in a couple days.
Not saying SpaceX hasn't flown a secret mission or two this year, though. They might be secretly testing cheese wheels in preparation for FH.  :D

I did a recount of all the 2017 missions flown; it was 14 so far. There was not a 15th secret mission.

Maybe J. Insprucker accidentally said 15 were flown, but it's okay. Mistakes happen and can be fixed.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 10/09/2017 02:55 PM
(http://wjbq.com/files/2015/07/Debbie-Downer.png?w=600&h=0&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Doesitfloat on 10/09/2017 03:04 PM
I'm surprised nobody is talking about the secret launch SpaceX made this year.  John slipped up and let out that this is the 15th SpaceX launch this year...
It wasn't really secret. They are just counting the the ITS's tank test as a launch. 
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 10/09/2017 03:08 PM
That was cool -- ... it thought I said "Space sex launch"...  ???

Were there any actual search results for that? Just askin'... :-[
Asking for a friend, no doubt.

I had to commute from Grand Rapids to Dearborn but I had the YouTube spooling and pulled into a Park and Ride lot at T-2:00 and stayed parked (safety first!) till after first stage landing.

John definitely was explaining some basic stuff this time. Loved Matt's vid ("Are you tired of me yet? Grease up, we have 5 more to go") ...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 10/09/2017 03:34 PM
I'm surprised nobody is talking about the secret launch SpaceX made this year.  John slipped up and let out that this is the 15th SpaceX launch this year...

I must have missed that. At the end of the "norminal" webcast he called it the 14th mission, and looking forward to the 15th in a couple days.
Not saying SpaceX hasn't flown a secret mission or two this year, though. They might be secretly testing cheese wheels in preparation for FH.  :D

I did a recount of all the 2017 missions flown; it was 14 so far. There was not a 15th secret mission.

Maybe J. Insprucker accidentally said 15 were flown, but it's okay. Mistakes happen and can be fixed.
Given this launch was supposed to occur after SES he probably just had an old copy of the script he was reading from. They gave him an updated copy during one of the commercial breaks.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 10/09/2017 04:58 PM
I always figured John winged it...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dror on 10/10/2017 09:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfYtXIDtmco

But that's simchat torah !
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 10/11/2017 01:58 AM
Everyone's commenting that SpaceX has been slow getting the pictures of Monday's lunch out. I mean, geez, what's wrong with just using stock pictures?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Flying Beaver on 10/11/2017 04:55 AM
FH sits in the evening light.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Cherokee43v6 on 10/11/2017 02:41 PM
Okay... so relaunches are now a thing which makes me want to hold off on my partying until we see the following:

a Rerelaunch. :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 10/11/2017 04:08 PM
Everyone's commenting that SpaceX has been slow getting the pictures of Monday's lunch out. I mean, geez, what's wrong with just using stock pictures?

That's as bad as those old Grade "C" Sci-fi flicks that would use footage of two completely different rockets for the same fictional rocket ship!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 10/11/2017 05:24 PM
Looks pretty clean for a used rocket.
Only used by a little old lady from Pasadena???
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: jebbo on 10/11/2017 05:26 PM
Low mileage, one careful owner ;-)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Barrie on 10/11/2017 05:42 PM
Okay... so relaunches are now a thing which makes me want to hold off on my partying until we see the following:

a Rerelaunch. :)

This time next year, relaunches will be unremarkable.  Any excitement and tension will be around a new booster's 'maiden launch'   :D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: butters on 10/11/2017 09:13 PM
The shrinking RSS is like a flattering pair of pants for Falcon 9. Yes, it does make you look bigger.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: sghill on 10/11/2017 10:32 PM
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 10/11/2017 10:35 PM
Your norminal programming will resume shortly.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Michael Baylor on 10/11/2017 10:42 PM
Background noise is the SpaceXers eating. The cafeteria is called "The Lunch Pad" according to an employee on Twitter. Not sure if the name changes for dinner though.  ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 10/11/2017 10:46 PM
Space-equis?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 10/11/2017 10:51 PM
Do it again already? Cool.  8)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 10/11/2017 11:01 PM
Second stage flying into sunset! How cool is that!!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: tyrred on 10/11/2017 11:05 PM
Holy falcons, batman... Those grid fins got HOT!  And did someone install extra sparklers for the entry burn?  Spectacular
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: WBY1984 on 10/11/2017 11:09 PM
Looks like the glowing grid fin action occurred right at sunset, judging by the footage from stage 2. Made everything redder and more dramatic.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 10/11/2017 11:38 PM
Since Apollo 7 was 49 years ago, I took some photos of my models of both rockets.  They are 1/144 scale. 
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Tomness on 10/12/2017 01:21 AM
On site, front row. T-52 minutes.

I want set of wing back chairs lol... I wonder if Shotwell likes Cigars wouldn't look out of place setting in one of those lol.....
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 10/12/2017 01:30 AM
On site, front row. T-52 minutes.

I want set of wing back chairs lol... I wonder if Shotwell likes Cigars wouldn't look out of place setting in one of those lol.....
I guess they're on loan from Masterpiece Theater... ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CorvusCorax on 10/12/2017 04:02 PM
Comin in HOT! :)

I ran outa time or I'd have added the HUD, too ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: vandersons on 10/12/2017 04:07 PM
Not sure if we have a global party thread here so this is the most appropriate place I could find for expressing my happines about the below

Recently changed projects at work (not space related) and we got some new people in for it. Turns out two of the new guys are real proper (ex)rocket scientists.
Had a good chat with one of them and he's also a huge SpaceX fan! Looking forward to many more discusions and info dumps from him (though not sure how much he'll be able to divulge about his primary speciality - GNC of Russian ICBMs).

Haven't had a chance to talk to the other guy but his CV says something about a long stint in Baikonur.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 10/12/2017 05:18 PM
Comin in HOT! :)

I ran outa time or I'd have added the HUD, too ;)
Jebediah would be grinning ear to ear!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 10/12/2017 05:25 PM
I want set of wing back chairs lol... I wonder if Shotwell likes Cigars wouldn't look out of place setting in one of those lol.....

Wing back chairs are awesome if you have an open fire and it's a bit drafty, doubly so if the fire is RP-1 and LOX.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 10/13/2017 06:41 AM
Since Apollo 7 was 49 years ago, I took some photos of my models of both rockets.  They are 1/144 scale. 
Where did you get the Falcon 9 model from, if I may ask.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: rpapo on 10/13/2017 11:26 AM
Ugg, brain and fingers don't always synchronize.
Some call it "dyslexia of the fingers"...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: jebbo on 10/13/2017 11:28 AM
Ugg, brain and fingers don't always synchronize.
Some call it "dyslexia of the fingers"...

Parity error on the brain/finger interface ...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mme on 10/13/2017 03:58 PM
In the construction and mechanical trades, sometimes the hammer one has in one's hand isn't producing the desired result, and a bigger hammer is needed. In those trades, the larger hammer is commonly referred to as a "BFH." And the F there does not mean Falcon.
Many video games, especially first-person shooters (like Doom and Quake), have a huge, powerful gun called a "BFG".  Here too, the meaning of the "F" is pretty clear.

And, of course, there is the slang expression "BFD", short for the sarcastic phrase "Big F...... Deal".

More generally, the construction "Big F....... something" is pretty common in popular culture.  So I think it's clear that Elon is just being cheeky calling his rocket the BFR.

I still don't get it.  Can someone please explain the joke yet again?

Edit/Lar: No. No more on this.
OK, when a man and a woman love each other very much ...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Ronpur50 on 10/14/2017 12:33 AM
Since Apollo 7 was 49 years ago, I took some photos of my models of both rockets.  They are 1/144 scale. 
Where did you get the Falcon 9 model from, if I may ask.

Mostly scratch built with plastic tubes and 3D printed parts (legs, grid fins, engines fairing) from Shapeways. 
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 10/15/2017 03:45 AM
From the magical mystery thread:
I think that's enough random meanings for the word Zuma.

Well, of course, that's enough random meanings for the word Zuma.  It was a typo.  The payload is actually Zima.  I saw it recently as a "limited edition" release, and apparently it sold *really* well.  They're obviously going to do a product *launch* to announce it's back permanently.

Yep, Space Zima is the mystery payload.  (Sorry, Elon, now you're *really* going to have to come up with something properly absurd for FH.)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Barrie on 10/15/2017 03:55 AM
I thought it might somehow be a reference to Montezuma.  As opposed to the more usual Monty Python references we get from Elon.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: launchwatcher on 10/15/2017 07:47 AM
Must be this guy: http://paw-patrol.wikia.com/wiki/Zuma

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 10/15/2017 09:03 PM
Quote
Jeff Foust @jeff_foust
Replying to @Cosmic_Penguin
ZUMA is more likely to be a codename, not an acronym. But I’m sure you can come up with some creative retronyms…

https://mobile.twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/919594402439417856
Zero Updates Made Available
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 10/16/2017 08:53 PM
This again rises up the "Elon like a Bond supervillain" thoughts ;)

So the satellite is some SPECTRE's superweapon ;)

ZUMAs are Forever
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 10/16/2017 09:00 PM
Must be this guy: http://paw-patrol.wikia.com/wiki/Zuma

NRO hasn't yet returned Spike the Lizard from space back to his family.  He's been up there over 1 year! (NROL-61)
:(

If the eagle mascot for NROL-52 isn't on a rescue mission, then maybe this rescue dog is?  8)

(I read the link content; this character, unfortunately, isn't used as often as his rescue buddies.  He seems to be the Aquaman of Paw Patrol.  Maybe that's why he's free to accept a space rescue mission.)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Barrie on 10/16/2017 09:26 PM
I thought it was short for MazumaMobile.com - comsats made from recycled phones...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 10/16/2017 09:37 PM
From the magical mystery thread:
I think that's enough random meanings for the word Zuma.

Well, of course, that's enough random meanings for the word Zuma.  It was a typo.  The payload is actually Zima.  I saw it recently as a "limited edition" release, and apparently it sold *really* well.  They're obviously going to do a product *launch* to announce it's back permanently.

Yep, Space Zima is the mystery payload.  (Sorry, Elon, now you're *really* going to have to come up with something properly absurd for FH.)

I remember some episode of Babylon 5 had a bar in the Zocalo with a "Zima" sign.  A little JMS humor there.

EDIT: "TKO," Season 1

Delving back into Usenet via JMSNews, http://www.jmsnews.com/home.aspx :
Quote
From: [email protected] (Jms at B5)
 Subject: Re: JMS: B5 Editorial: Lamenta
      To: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated 
    Date: 7/27/1994 5:57:00 AM     
 
View Thread
(4 messages)


Actually, the idea of Zima lasting even into 1995 is hysterical. I
keep fighting the urge to have some guy show up on B5, "Zo then I zays to
him, nize ztation"...and five Narns just jump on him and beat the shit
out of him, WHAMWHAMWHAMWHAMWHAM!

jms
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 10/17/2017 02:36 AM
I remember some episode of Babylon 5 had a bar in the Zocalo with a "Zima" sign.  A little JMS humor there.

EDIT: "TKO," Season 1

Delving back into Usenet via JMSNews, http://www.jmsnews.com/home.aspx :
Quote
From: [email protected] (Jms at B5)
 Subject: Re: JMS: B5 Editorial: Lamenta
      To: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated 
    Date: 7/27/1994 5:57:00 AM     
 
View Thread
(4 messages)


Actually, the idea of Zima lasting even into 1995 is hysterical. I
keep fighting the urge to have some guy show up on B5, "Zo then I zays to
him, nize ztation"...and five Narns just jump on him and beat the shit
out of him, WHAMWHAMWHAMWHAMWHAM!

jms

Hehe, it had dropped out of my mind that the Narn Bat Squad running gag originated with a Zima joke.  ;D  (I blame it on the fact it was over 23 years ago and I was just on my way to college... wow.)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: sghill on 10/18/2017 01:26 PM
I, for one, can't wait for the Zima launch. I may be in town to see this baby go up!

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 10/18/2017 02:36 PM
Just testing old links for HTTPS mod, so had a bit of fun with it. ;)

From 2013 to 2017. From Stampede to Security.

The evolution of the Rocket Cows of McGregor.

Background: https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/08/spacex-bothering-bovines-revolutionizing-rockets/

(SpaceX video shot and Gary Blair L2 McGregor photo).
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Cherokee43v6 on 10/18/2017 02:48 PM
I, for one, can't wait for the Zima launch. I may be in town to see this baby go up!

Nice hat?


edit: Okay... I /really/ just dated myself ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CorvusCorax on 10/18/2017 05:06 PM
I, for one, can't wait for the Zima launch. I may be in town to see this baby go up!

Nice hat?


edit: Okay... I /really/ just dated myself ;)

Why, I think that was a pretty up to date reference ;)

Quote from: ElonMusk url="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/920482298327216128"
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/920482298327216128
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 10/18/2017 09:25 PM
I, for one, can't wait for the Zima launch. I may be in town to see this baby go up!

Nice hat?


edit: Okay... I /really/ just dated myself ;)

There are several Zima ads on YouTube...this is one of them with "nize hat":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbvKGdFlSQ0

Here'z another:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_uxyXekDjo

Oh, boy...  ::) Gonna party like it's 1994!

Not my pick-up line, but it could have been used here in "DZ" back-in-the-day, over a pair of Zimas:

Quote
Hey, babe, do you know that I'm a Friend Of Bill? ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 10/19/2017 04:45 AM
What's your zign?

Ztop.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 10/19/2017 06:22 PM
Just testing old links for HTTPS mod, so had a bit of fun with it. ;)

From 2013 to 2017. From Stampede to Security.

The evolution of the Rocket Cows of McGregor.

Background: https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/08/spacex-bothering-bovines-revolutionizing-rockets/

(SpaceX video shot and Gary Blair L2 McGregor photo).

And a renewable source of methane for mars...
rocket cows
From stampede to security to passengers?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 10/19/2017 06:37 PM
Just testing old links for HTTPS mod, so had a bit of fun with it. ;)

From 2013 to 2017. From Stampede to Security.

The evolution of the Rocket Cows of McGregor.

Background: https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/08/spacex-bothering-bovines-revolutionizing-rockets/

(SpaceX video shot and Gary Blair L2 McGregor photo).

And a renewable source of methane for mars...
rocket cows
From stampede to security to passengers?

Whatever their mission I can promise that you DO NOT want to run up behind a herd of them blocking the road in front of you while driving a brand new 1986 Thunderbird and blow the horn.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: e of pi on 10/24/2017 03:27 PM
This had fallen into page 2 of the missions section (so many mission!) but all is still on track for a Static Fire test on the 26 as of last update.
I'm amused that we're now two days out from Static Fire, maybe four days out from the launch if things go well, and the latest SpaceX launch has fallen to page 2 in the SpaceX Missions section! Ho hum, another comsat launch and landing, I guess?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 10/24/2017 03:35 PM
This had fallen into page 2 of the missions section (so many mission!) but all is still on track for a Static Fire test on the 26 as of last update.
I'm amused that we're now two days out from Static Fire, maybe four days out from the launch if things go well, and the latest SpaceX launch has fallen to page 2 in the SpaceX Missions section! Ho hum, another comsat launch and landing, I guess?
The discussion thread for the mission has been active, it was just the update thread that fell off.  Since there weren't any updates of late, this is not surprising.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dodo on 10/24/2017 06:03 PM
This had fallen into page 2 of the missions section (so many mission!) but all is still on track for a Static Fire test on the 26 as of last update.
I'm amused that we're now two days out from Static Fire, maybe four days out from the launch if things go well, and the latest SpaceX launch has fallen to page 2 in the SpaceX Missions section! Ho hum, another comsat launch and landing, I guess?
The discussion thread for the mission has been active, it was just the update thread that fell off.  Since there weren't any updates of late, this is not surprising.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 10/24/2017 07:43 PM
This had fallen into page 2 of the missions section (so many mission!) but all is still on track for a Static Fire test on the 26 as of last update.
I'm amused that we're now two days out from Static Fire, maybe four days out from the launch if things go well, and the latest SpaceX launch has fallen to page 2 in the SpaceX Missions section! Ho hum, another comsat launch and landing, I guess?

 Distant voice echos from somewhere in another thread:
      “Use the Force Chris”
Mod: “Sir, the update thread has turned off its targeting computer”

Com( urgently): “Update thread, you’re on page two... are you ok? “
Update Thread “Yes, I’m fine! No problem... Everything is Okey-Dokey, all good... ummmm
These aren’t the drone ships you’re looking for...”

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Barrie on 10/24/2017 08:34 PM
And a renewable source of methane for mars...
rocket cows

Ahh...so BFR = Bovine Flatulence Rocket!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 10/24/2017 08:55 PM
If I remember correctly,  roadheaders run about 12-100 tons while bulldozers can run 40 to 104 tons.

Or you could use the greatest invention of the 21st century, the long armed mangolator! long armed mangelator! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpCOZEyXv9I)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 10/25/2017 12:01 AM
that seems all kinds of dangerous and unwise.

eminently well suited for this thread.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Tomness on 10/25/2017 01:16 AM
As unseasonable record high 100 degree F temperatures bake Vandenberg AFB today, the Minotaur C vehicle being readied for launch on 31 October glistens in the bright sun at its seaside launch pad 576E.

Image MIN3 and MIN4: The road to space is long with many a winding turn.

Image MIN7 shows the larger SLC-2W looming behind, the launch site of the JPSS aboard a Delta II scheduled for November.

Image MIN12 shows the distant coastline of Vandenberg South Base, with SLC-4 and SLC-6 clearly visible on a rare hot clear marine layer free day.

I don't want to filll up the main update page after this awesome post Helodriver... but what awesome pictures and this fine rocket... wish skybox, orbital atk, air force... good luck on this flight... this could make or break Minotaur C.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Sesquipedalian on 10/25/2017 04:43 AM
(Split out of L2 as it's not L2....heh....per a reference about Zuma hiding under a mask...funny, so into party thread - Chris)

It was a close-run thing, but I managed to catch Zuma after encapsulation..
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 10/25/2017 05:33 PM
Genious!  Now we know that they are sending up Ladies and Germs.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 10/26/2017 04:02 PM
The latest ASAP meeting minutes are out:

Quote
<snip>
The public needs to understand that NASA spin-offs are more than Tang or Velco—there are important breakthroughs, and they are one of the major benefits from what NASA does.

From the tenor of those comments I get the feeling that ASAP members are undervaluing Tang and Velcro.  2 products that highly contributed to my happiness as a 5 year old.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 10/27/2017 01:46 PM
From the koreasat discussion thread
If they do a partial boost-back burn to return near the coast, the droneship won't take too much time to get positioned.

Nod. I wonder how much time they need to reconfigure things or if they have already calculated 5 or 10 different parameter loads for different landing points or even expendable with different things tested or ?

They've used a "contingency landing location" that repositioned the ASDS on at least 1 previous occasion, IIRC it was on one of the Iridium launches.  Which tells me that they likely have at least 2 or 3 targeted locations set up well before hand.

Will the Elon finally reveal the secret location of his volcano lair? Or would the Zuma launch be more appropriate?
(Pinkie firmly in corner of mouth)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 10/27/2017 03:26 PM
My wife found me sitting in front of the fireplace reading new posts on the forums last night and asked me what was new on ‘Spacebook’. I just smiled and told way her it was way more interesting than whatever was happening on the Book of Faces.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 10/27/2017 06:33 PM
I'm ready for another launch, it's been too long :)

Turn the lights on!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdLXWM2_k_Q&t=60
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 10/27/2017 11:19 PM
Bill Carton on FB already did. I have my lanyards ...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/474538532918960/
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Treasurer on 10/28/2017 02:05 PM
What will we do with a drunken CEO?

http://coub.com/view/yzld7 (http://coub.com/view/yzld7)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mattstep on 10/30/2017 02:24 AM
What will we do with a drunken CEO?

http://coub.com/view/yzld7 (http://coub.com/view/yzld7)

Tie him to the first stage 'till he gets sober.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 10/30/2017 01:33 PM
I thought that prayers for success on this flight might best be aided with a Korean influence. Y'all know how difficult it is to find a Korean holy man in rural Tennessee? Brother Park here is all over the idea. We're covered. :)



Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 10/30/2017 01:44 PM
I thought that prayers for success on this flight might best be aided with a Korean influence. Y'all know how difficult it is to find a Korean holy man in rural Tennessee? Brother Park here is all over the idea. We're covered. :)
Would he pray the payload makes it to a “brother park”-ing orbit?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 10/30/2017 02:00 PM
Is it a prayer to make sure it makes it to orbit and not the afterlife?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Elvis in Space on 10/30/2017 03:01 PM
Is it a prayer to make sure it makes it to orbit and not the afterlife?

Sorry but translation is a risk we take. I'm told that I barely speak English myself.  ???
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: FutureSpaceTourist on 10/30/2017 03:27 PM
Just in case anyone is confused about how to launch ...

Quote
There's only one direction to launch a rocket and that's up

https://twitter.com/NASA_Nerd/status/925027758186545152 (https://twitter.com/NASA_Nerd/status/925027758186545152)

... but where's the advice about how to land again?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: IntoTheVoid on 10/30/2017 04:57 PM
That was simply the long-term state of the industry after the premature death of Saturn, and it's clear that that concept pervaded the impacted community out of necessity.

I knew we plunged Cassini into Saturn, but I didn't realize that we'd killed it.
First Pluto, now Saturn, maybe Elon needs to think bigger than Mars, at this rate it may not be far enough.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: cppetrie on 10/30/2017 05:53 PM
The only things not being reused on CRS-13 is the US and Trunk.
Doesn’t the trunk get re-used for trash disposal. :)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 10/30/2017 05:53 PM
Bus just drove past!

That'll be the crew getting on board.

Oops, no-one's supposed to know about the Korean space station.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 10/30/2017 06:46 PM
Bus just drove past!

That'll be the crew getting on board.

Oops, no-one's supposed to know about the Korean space station.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrEQOj4ep8U
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 10/30/2017 07:14 PM
Congratulations to all involved for a successful launch, landing and deployment.

I had to laugh when the presenter said "ready for another launch" about the first stage...

Oh, that'll buff right out!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 10/30/2017 07:15 PM
From Koreasat webcast, FH cores to the left and right
Core to the left of me, core to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle with you...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: nacnud on 10/30/2017 07:22 PM
Congratulations to all involved for a successful launch, landing and deployment.

I had to laugh when the presenter said "ready for another launch" about the first stage...

Oh, that'll buff right out!

I guess they subbed out octograbber for ref bot and his fire extinguisher for this robot war landing.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: IntoTheVoid on 10/30/2017 08:00 PM
From Koreasat webcast, FH cores to the left and right
Core to the left of me, core to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle with you...

I thought that's the theme song for FH?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Rocket Science on 10/30/2017 08:15 PM
Nice of Elon for providing "fireworks" and a "weenie roast" aboard OCISY to honor Lewis Hamilton's 4th F1 World Driving Championship... ;D
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/lewis-hamilton-wins-his-4th-formula-one-title-now-level-with-prost-and-vettel-121349.html
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 10/31/2017 11:49 AM
I was digging back on the history of SpaceX while looking at the SpaceX launch log and I found out that there was a time (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=918.msg10527#msg10527) when a hold in the countdown was announced by the launch team (in the middle of nowhere) sending an email to Elon's Garage (TM) in SoCal, where someone would announce to the media via a phone hotline!  :o

No, that was in 2005..... :P
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: pstephens on 10/31/2017 04:30 PM
I was digging back on the history of SpaceX while looking at the SpaceX launch log and I found out that there was a time (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=918.msg10527#msg10527) when a hold in the countdown was announced by the launch team (in the middle of nowhere) sending an email to Elon's Garage (TM) in SoCal, where someone would announce to the media via a phone hotline!  :o

No, that was in 2005..... :P

Wow... reading that launch thread. SpaceX has come a long way!  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: tleski on 10/31/2017 05:28 PM
I was digging back on the history of SpaceX while looking at the SpaceX launch log and I found out that there was a time (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=918.msg10527#msg10527) when a hold in the countdown was announced by the launch team (in the middle of nowhere) sending an email to Elon's Garage (TM) in SoCal, where someone would announce to the media via a phone hotline!  :o

No, that was in 2005..... :P

Wow... reading that launch thread. SpaceX has come a long way!  ;D

That is an amazing thread!
You can even find Chris's B age if you read it carefully.   ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 10/31/2017 05:54 PM
That is an amazing thread!
You can even find Chris's B age if you read it carefully.   ;)

We may have to dead-thread it. That's L3 level information.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 10/31/2017 07:17 PM
That is an amazing thread!
You can even find Chris's B age if you read it carefully.   ;)

We may have to dead-thread it. That's L3 level information.

There’s a level 3 ?!... ala
it comes in pints?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmFnv-TZzRs
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: FutureSpaceTourist on 10/31/2017 07:29 PM
Quote
Happy Halloween from @SpaceX!! 🎃

https://twitter.com/rocketjoy/status/925457942572232704 (https://twitter.com/rocketjoy/status/925457942572232704)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 10/31/2017 10:04 PM
Quote
Happy Halloween from @SpaceX!!

https://twitter.com/rocketjoy/status/925457942572232704 (https://twitter.com/rocketjoy/status/925457942572232704)

I feel like dressing up as a COPV (the guys at far right) would be sort of an edgy costume for a SpaceXer.  Though maybe it gets points for scariest costume there?

To see the actual COPVs in situ: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=41018.msg1690878#msg1690878
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 10/31/2017 10:26 PM
Oscar Meyer COPV's are the best!

Error 404
Costume not found.

Made me chuckle.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 10/31/2017 10:29 PM
Quote
Happy Halloween from @SpaceX!!

https://twitter.com/rocketjoy/status/925457942572232704 (https://twitter.com/rocketjoy/status/925457942572232704)

I feel like dressing up as a COPV (the guys at far right) would be sort of an edgy costume for a SpaceXer.  Though maybe it gets points for scariest costume there?

They'll have to compete for that prize against the Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) cosplayers in the center--given the recent "Rick and Morty McDonald's Szechuan sauce riots" at a few of the LA McDonald's locations...
;D

Despicable Me franchise Minions noted on the far left...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 10/31/2017 10:34 PM
That is an amazing thread!
You can even find Chris's B age if you read it carefully.   ;)

We may have to dead-thread it. That's L3 level information.
I only know that he is younger than me... ;)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: catdlr on 11/01/2017 12:24 AM
I was digging back on the history of SpaceX while looking at the SpaceX launch log and I found out that there was a time (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=918.msg10527#msg10527) when a hold in the countdown was announced by the launch team (in the middle of nowhere) sending an email to Elon's Garage (TM) in SoCal, where someone would announce to the media via a phone hotline!  :o

No, that was in 2005..... :P

Wow... reading that launch thread. SpaceX has come a long way!  ;D

Look at this post in that thread:  http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=918.msg10574#msg10574

Chris has indeed come a long way with membership.  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 11/01/2017 01:38 AM
Quote
Happy Halloween from @SpaceX!! 🎃

https://twitter.com/rocketjoy/status/925457942572232704 (https://twitter.com/rocketjoy/status/925457942572232704)
What is the costume with orangy top and a white body with SpaceX lettering supposed to be (next to all the R&M constumes)? My first thought was a stage firing downwards but ... ?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: jjyach on 11/01/2017 02:07 AM
Quote
Happy Halloween from @SpaceX!! 🎃

https://twitter.com/rocketjoy/status/925457942572232704 (https://twitter.com/rocketjoy/status/925457942572232704)
What is the costume with orangy top and a white body with SpaceX lettering supposed to be (next to all the R&M constumes)? My first thought was a stage firing downwards but ... ?

My guess is dragon with a chute deployed
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: tvg98 on 11/01/2017 02:53 AM
I was digging back on the history of SpaceX while looking at the SpaceX launch log and I found out that there was a time (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=918.msg10527#msg10527) when a hold in the countdown was announced by the launch team (in the middle of nowhere) sending an email to Elon's Garage (TM) in SoCal, where someone would announce to the media via a phone hotline!  :o

No, that was in 2005..... :P

Wow... reading that launch thread. SpaceX has come a long way!  ;D

Look at this post in that thread:  http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=918.msg10574#msg10574

Chris has indeed come a long way with membership.  ;D

Wow are those COPV's in the right corner? Those guys definitely went with the horror theme!  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 11/01/2017 02:58 AM
Wow are those COPV's in the right corner? Those guys definitely went with the horror theme!  ;D

Technically, they're COPV protective jackets, the things that make the black COPVs look red in tank assembly images.  You can read the "REMOVE BEFORE TANK CLOSEOUT" printing on them in this photo, which makes it yet another informative party thread entry, but we seem to allow occasional digressions onto topic here.  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 11/01/2017 11:52 AM
Wow are those COPV's in the right corner? Those guys definitely went with the horror theme!  ;D

Technically, they're COPV protective jackets, the things that make the black COPVs look red in tank assembly images.  You can read the "REMOVE BEFORE TANK CLOSEOUT" printing on them in this photo, which makes it yet another informative party thread entry, but we seem to allow occasional digressions onto topic here.  ;D
Horror theme...
Wasn’t there a story about being walled in written by Edgar Alan Poe?
These guys want to be sure THEY are removed from the tank before close out!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: guyw on 11/01/2017 12:43 PM
At the risk of adding something informational to the party thread, I believe that was "The Tell-Tale Heart".

Edit: Should have Googled it first. The bricked up wall story is "The Cask of Amontillado". "The Tell-Tale Heart" gets hidden under the floorboards.

Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: yokem55 on 11/01/2017 12:58 PM
At the risk of adding something informational to the party thread, I believe that was "The Tell-Tale Heart".

Edit: Should have Googled it first. The bricked up wall story is "The Cask of Amontillado". "The Tell-Tale Heart" gets hidden under the floorboards.
No, it's The Cask of Amontillado...

Edit.. This is evidence of a party. Talking over one another is quite common in such situations of well mannered frivolity.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jarnis on 11/01/2017 01:20 PM
That is an amazing thread!
You can even find Chris's B age if you read it carefully.   ;)

We may have to dead-thread it. That's L3 level information.

There is a L3?  :o

 :P
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 11/01/2017 01:24 PM
That is an amazing thread!
You can even find Chris's B age if you read it carefully.   ;)

We may have to dead-thread it. That's L3 level information.

There is a L3?  :o

 :P

Sorry citizen, you're not cleared for that information[2]. Go on about your business... nothing to see here.... move along.... move along....

1 - The computer is your friend[1]. Report to the nearest disintegration chamber for further processing, er information.
2 - does anyone get this reference???
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 11/01/2017 01:32 PM
That is an amazing thread!
You can even find Chris's B age if you read it carefully.   ;)

We may have to dead-thread it. That's L3 level information.

There is a L3?  :o

 :P
Yes,  and it comes in pints
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42585.msg1744330#msg1744330

Plus...
You just have to pay the lifetime L2 subscription twice. By the way there is no additional information available in L3 than in L2. And all L3 posts are cleverly hidden by the sneaky cover of the label “L2” on the threads. But you know you’re in L3, because your bank balance is lower... AND you have this smug look on your face knowing you are supporting the best space flight blog in history.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Jarnis on 11/01/2017 01:51 PM
That is an amazing thread!
You can even find Chris's B age if you read it carefully.   ;)

We may have to dead-thread it. That's L3 level information.

There is a L3?  :o

 :P

Sorry citizen, you're not cleared for that information[2]. Go on about your business... nothing to see here.... move along.... move along....

1 - The computer is your friend[1]. Report to the nearest disintegration chamber for further processing, er information.
2 - does anyone get this reference???

Paranoia. One of the few RPGs where the rulebook worked also as a piece of comedic literature. No actual playing required.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: envy887 on 11/01/2017 02:44 PM
That is an amazing thread!
You can even find Chris's B age if you read it carefully.   ;)

We may have to dead-thread it. That's L3 level information.

There is a L3?  :o

 :P

Sorry citizen, you're not cleared for that information[2]. Go on about your business... nothing to see here.... move along.... move along....

1 - The computer is your friend[1]. Report to the nearest disintegration chamber for further processing, er information.
2 - does anyone get this reference???

You have a self-referential footnote. I think I'm stuck in an endless loop...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 11/01/2017 02:46 PM
That is an amazing thread!
You can even find Chris's B age if you read it carefully.   ;)

We may have to dead-thread it. That's L3 level information.

There is a L3?  :o

 :P

You can't actually see L3 information since there's always something in the way.  What you really want is L4, which is where you have nice stable info in advance.  Just don't accidentally go with L5 or you'll always be behind.  ;D
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 11/01/2017 04:33 PM
Three cores to rule them all - Falcon Heavy Demo Party Thread
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 11/01/2017 05:01 PM

There is a L3?  :o

 :P

Sorry citizen, you're not cleared for that information[2]. Go on about your business... nothing to see here.... move along.... move along....

1 - The computer is your friend[1]. Report to the nearest disintegration chamber for further processing, er information.
2 - does anyone get this reference???

You have a self-referential footnote. I think I'm stuck in an endless loop...
The computer never makes misteaks. To suggest otherwise is treason, citizen.

(Yes, Paranoia, and I was in on the Kickstarter that recently released an entire new edition, which was awesome)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Craftyatom on 11/01/2017 05:10 PM
Quote
Happy Halloween from @SpaceX!! 🎃

https://twitter.com/rocketjoy/status/925457942572232704 (https://twitter.com/rocketjoy/status/925457942572232704)

Oh man, these are always a riot...  role-reversed Arnold and Helga over on the right, old-school Batman (I hope he brought shark repellent for those landings in the Pacific) in the mid-right, and BROTHER HOGAN in the back...  Fun times.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 11/02/2017 01:00 AM
Forgive the humour, but...:
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 11/02/2017 11:37 AM
Treading ground we have already recovered...
 but what are you all hoping for in the Falcon heavy payload module 
A really big wheel of cheese with parachute system on an Apollo 8 free return trajectory?
A School bus? A Tesla Model 90? Or...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 11/02/2017 11:58 AM
Treading ground we have already recovered...
 but what are you all hoping for in the Falcon heavy payload module 
A really big wheel of cheese with parachute system on an Apollo 8 free return trajectory?
A School bus? A Tesla Model 90? Or...
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 11/02/2017 12:46 PM
[image of a 16-ton weight]

Oh, that'll never work.  You load 16 tons, and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt.  That's highly suboptimal.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 11/02/2017 01:23 PM
Oh, that'll never work.  You load 16 tons, and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt.  That's highly suboptimal.
Please don't open the is SpaceX profitable debate again.... Poor Chris and Lar wore out the mod buttons on their respective keyboards with those debates.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 11/02/2017 01:54 PM
[image of a 16-ton weight]

Oh, that'll never work.  You load 16 tons, and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt.  That's highly suboptimal.
Cant let that go by without including the song... an old favorite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfu2A0ezq0
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 11/02/2017 07:17 PM
That is an amazing thread!
You can even find Chris's B age if you read it carefully.   ;)

We may have to dead-thread it. That's L3 level information.

There is a L3?  :o

 :P

The first rule of L3 is [REDACTED].
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 11/02/2017 07:46 PM
From the General Falcon/Dragon thread:
Maybe party stuff should be left in the party thread??

The view from Elon's video in this post (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=41018.msg1690869#msg1690869) earlier in this thread kicked off something near 20 posts of a subthread about why the COPVs were red. Thanks to a couple SpaceXers' costume choices, we finally got an image to go with MechE31's explanation.  So, the image happened to come from the party thread.  It's not the first time real info came that way, and to raise the signal to noise ratio, I did crop out all the other costumed SpaceXers (who remain safely ensconced in the party thread).

Still, I would be more than happy to replace this image with another image showing the red COPV protective jackets with their "REMOVE BEFORE TANK CLOSEOUT" labeling.  Perhaps someone can ask SpaceX for one directly.
(http://data.whicdn.com/images/22154688/large.jpg)

CT Space Guy, would you like some ice?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 11/02/2017 08:20 PM
Um, I *would* be quite happy to replace the image with an official one, and as I neither have rapport with any SpaceX PR people nor accounts on the usual social media sites, I really don't know of a way of asking.  I didn't consider the post hypergolic, but perhaps I was a bit brief, leaving us insufficiently excellent to each other?

Anyway, now the real threads are spilling over into the party thread, too!
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 11/03/2017 03:32 AM
Quote
You have a self-referential footnote. I think I'm stuck in an endless loop...

Lar is notorious for creating mobius threads.  :P
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 11/04/2017 09:01 PM
Um, I *would* be quite happy to replace the image with an official one, and as I neither have rapport with any SpaceX PR people nor accounts on the usual social media sites, I really don't know of a way of asking.  I didn't consider the post hypergolic, but perhaps I was a bit brief, leaving us insufficiently excellent to each other?

Anyway, now the real threads are spilling over into the party thread, too!
As I said in the other thread[1], I have no problem with it whatever, it's the best image of a COPV cover I've seen yet.

Also, since I'm here...

Ariane Cornell, Head of Astronaut Strategy & Sales and Head of North American New Glenn Sales, Blue Origin

How much is Blue selling astronauts for? ... asking for a friend
--

1 - I forgot which post it was. [2]
2 - ...but someone could dig it up if they wanted to. [3]
3 - it is a lie that I create Möbius threads. Well except for that one time[1]. Ed may never forgive me. Möbius footnote chains on the other hand, I do all the time. I did it just the other day.[1]
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 11/05/2017 04:17 PM
Umlautee,  Umlautah, Umlauteedah Brah

what is the 2nd time derivative of o anyway?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: CraigLieb on 11/05/2017 10:59 PM
Umlautee,  Umlautah, Umlauteedah Brah

what is the 2nd time derivative of o anyway?

O-de-o-T-o?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 11/05/2017 11:13 PM
Ariane Cornell, Head of Astronaut Strategy & Sales and Head of North American New Glenn Sales, Blue Origin

How much is Blue selling astronauts for? ... asking for a friend

Yeah, I had a friend wondering that, too.  :)

Also, my friend wants to know what are the differences between the North American and the South American New Glenn?  Or would it be a Nuevo Glenn?
--
Unrelated question, is the plural of Möbius = Möbii?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: dodo on 11/10/2017 06:01 PM
Umlautee,  Umlautah, Umlauteedah Brah

what is the 2nd time derivative of o anyway?

O-de-o-T-o?

And me thinking that it was "the two owe the tee too".

(Non-English here, sorry if it is a really old joke.)

P.S.: Is this the Cygnus / Antares party, or do I have the wrong address?
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 11/10/2017 06:21 PM
Is this the Cygnus / Antares party, or do I have the wrong address?
Yes.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Craftyatom on 11/10/2017 07:56 PM
Is this the Cygnus / Antares party, or do I have the wrong address?
Yes.
Good old logical OR versus English or.
Both, of course, consider themselves superior to the naval oar and the geological ore.
Sorry to bring such dull topics to the party thread, I know it can be a bore.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 11/10/2017 09:32 PM
I'm working on my Jim impersonation.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: mme on 11/10/2017 09:43 PM
I, for one, can't wait for the Zima launch. I may be in town to see this baby go up!
I forgot about Coors for Kids.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: IntoTheVoid on 11/11/2017 05:20 PM
I'm working on my Jim impersonation.

Then the answer, almost certainly, should have been, 'No'.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Lar on 11/12/2017 03:00 AM
I'm working on my Jim impersonation.

Then the answer, almost certainly, should have been, 'No'.
Wrong.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Perchlorate on 11/13/2017 09:11 AM
(Mod. edit: Post moved from updates thread about a post concerning launch weather violations)

the "Think Cloud Rule"?

(Joe vs. the Volcano, 1990, Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan:

Joe Banks: I still have a problem. I have a brain cloud.

Patricia: A brain cloud... what is a brain cloud?

Joe Banks: It's - well, maybe I should get a second opinion.

Patricia: You didn't get a second opinion on something called a brain cloud? I mean what are you, a hypochondriac? )
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: Perchlorate on 11/13/2017 10:19 AM
For context:

Launch day probability of violating launch weather constraints: 30% 
Primary concern(s): Cumulus Cloud Rule, Think Cloud Layer Rule     

Delay day probability of violating launch weather constraints: 10% 
Primary concern(s): Cumulus Cloud Rule
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: matthewkantar on 11/13/2017 05:27 PM
DOD has released theme song for Zooma launch

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F7gzHLKT5g4
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: zubenelgenubi on 11/13/2017 05:53 PM
DOD has released theme song for Zooma launch

My prediction: the launch team will wear colorful, horizontally-striped shirts (see intros for season 2 and beyond) and converse on an open channel, but solely using "ubbi-dubbi" code. 8)

Launch control is moving to a special location, for this launch only: Box 350, Boston, Mass 02134. ;D

(The page-bottom ad banner is advertising to me the LEGO Women of NASA.)
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 11/13/2017 07:58 PM
The Zuma discussion thread looks like it might degenerate again into Zuma name origin debates.  I can't reveal my sources, so posting there would just contribute to the thread continuing off-topic.  Still, I shouldn't just hoard the knowledge when it should be documented for posterity, so...

It turns out They came up with the codename "Zuma" because (being shadowy government people), they got their hands on the second season of Stranger Things earlier than anyone was supposed to.  What better thing to call the satellite than "Zoomer"?  Sure, Mike says it's not a real thing, but it totally could be.  Of course, plausible deniability and all, They couldn't just let everyone know that they'd gotten their hands on Stranger Things via completely legitimate means, so they just spelled it "Zuma", knowing that would be enough to throw everyone off the trail while they kicked back with the draft manuscript of the third book in Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller Chronicle trilogy.
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: abaddon on 11/13/2017 09:31 PM
draft manuscript of the third book in Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller Chronicle trilogy.
  :-[
Title: Re: Launch, Land, and Relaunch Party Thread
Post by: ClayJar on 11/14/2017 02:42 AM