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Title: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Satori on 07/21/2016 12:06 pm
Tiantong-1 (01) mobile communications satellite to be launched from Xichang in early August.
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - LM-3B/G2 (?) - XSLC - August 2016
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 07/21/2016 12:20 pm
This is a (civillian?) mobile comsat operated by China SatCom so I guess it's the same satellite as the "S-band mobile communication satellite" that has been floating around for some time and might be a descendant of the CMMB project.  ::)
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - LM-3B/G2 (?) - XSLC - August 2016
Post by: russianhalo117 on 07/21/2016 05:08 pm
This is a (civillian?) mobile comsat operated by China SatCom so I guess it's the same satellite as the "S-band mobile communication satellite" that has been floating around for some time and might be a descendant of the CMMB project.  ::)
I thinking that Tiantong-1 might be first operational one with previous being experimental.
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - LM-3B/G2 (?) - XSLC - August 2016
Post by: Satori on 08/01/2016 07:04 pm
Preparations for the launch of Tiantong-1 (01) at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center.
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - LM-3B/G2 (?) - XSLC - August 2016
Post by: russianhalo117 on 08/01/2016 07:19 pm
Preparations for the launch of Tiantong-1 (01) at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center.
Based on pad shown this is LC3 in the picture
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - LM-3B/G2 (?) - XSLC - August 2016
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 08/02/2016 03:15 am
Preparations for the launch of Tiantong-1 (01) at the Xichang Satellite Launch Center.
Based on pad shown this is LC3 in the picture

Yes and rumors are pointing to the launch date being on August 5.

I also retract my previous guess that this is a civilian satellite - the lack of info clearly points to it being of military nature.
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - LM-3B/G2 (?) - XSLC - August 2016
Post by: starbase on 08/02/2016 12:52 pm

Yes and rumors are pointing to the launch date being on August 5.

I also retract my previous guess that this is a civilian satellite - the lack of info clearly points to it being of military nature.

Launch date source: https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/760140714072215552
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - LM-3B/G2 (?) - XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016
Post by: Satori on 08/04/2016 10:15 am
Still no NOTAMs for this launch?
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - LM-3B/G2 (?) - XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 08/04/2016 02:53 pm
Still no NOTAMs for this launch?
Nope.....but rumors point to (https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/761195781730689024) launch being on tomorrow at 15:00 - 15:30 UTC. :-X
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - LM-3B/G2 (?) - XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016
Post by: Satori on 08/04/2016 04:10 pm
Still no NOTAMs for this launch?
Nope.....but rumors point to (https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/761195781730689024) launch being on tomorrow at 15:00 - 15:30 UTC. :-X

And no other information available about the satellite?
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - LM-3B/G2 (?) - XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016
Post by: input~2 on 08/04/2016 04:48 pm
I also retract my previous guess that this is a civilian satellite - the lack of info clearly points to it being of military nature.
So presumably launch codename will be "07-73"
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - LM-3B/G2 (?) - XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 08/05/2016 02:59 am
A1981/16 (Issued for ZGZU ZSHA) - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED WI THE AREA:
N260808E1142921-N261444E1140013-N255857E1135553-N255223E1142456
BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 05 AUG 16:16 2016 UNTIL 05 AUG 17:02 2016.
CREATED: 05 AUG 01:48 2016

A1980/16 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED WI THE AREA:
N272159E1083650-N273125E1074313-N271528E1073946-N270603E1083315
BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 05 AUG 16:15 2016 UNTIL 05 AUG 16:51 2016.
CREATED: 05 AUG 01:41 2016


Seems like the launch time is closer to 16:20 UTC.
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - LM-3B/G2 (?) - XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 08/05/2016 03:03 am
Still no NOTAMs for this launch?
Nope.....but rumors point to (https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/761195781730689024) launch being on tomorrow at 15:00 - 15:30 UTC. :-X

And no other information available about the satellite?

Judging from the fact that http://www.chinaspaceflight.com/satellite/tongxin/Tiantong-1/Tiantong1-01.html (http://www.chinaspaceflight.com/satellite/tongxin/Tiantong-1/Tiantong1-01.html) didn't have much info either, I guess there's not much to write about it.... :-X

(heck, I wouldn't be surprised if a different public name for the satellite is adapted for use!)
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - LM-3B/G2 (?) - XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016
Post by: input~2 on 08/05/2016 06:49 am
A1981/16 (Issued for ZGZU ZSHA) - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ....

As usual for CZ-3B NOTAMed drop zones correspond to boosters and fairing debris only
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - LM-3B/G2 (?) - XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 08/05/2016 11:33 am
A1981/16 (Issued for ZGZU ZSHA) - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED WI THE AREA:
N260808E1142921-N261444E1140013-N255857E1135553-N255223E1142456
BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 05 AUG 16:16 2016 UNTIL 05 AUG 17:02 2016.
CREATED: 05 AUG 01:48 2016

A1980/16 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED WI THE AREA:
N272159E1083650-N273125E1074313-N271528E1073946-N270603E1083315
BACK TO START.
VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 05 AUG 16:15 2016 UNTIL 05 AUG 16:51 2016.
CREATED: 05 AUG 01:41 2016


Seems like the launch time is closer to 16:20 UTC.

16:22 UTC per https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/761462433760186369 (https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/761462433760186369).
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) (?) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 08/05/2016 04:26 pm
Liftoff confirmed.  ;)
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) (?) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: russianhalo117 on 08/05/2016 04:29 pm
Liftoff confirmed.  ;)
now the waiting game for the pictures and needed info.
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) (?) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 08/05/2016 04:31 pm
Lift off confirmed.. via shaking windows ;D
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) (?) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Satori on 08/05/2016 04:37 pm
长征三号乙运载火箭的发射时间是8月6日00:22,将是西昌卫星发射中心的第99次卫星发射任务。任务代号应该是07-73

Automatic translation: Long March 3B launch time is at 00:22 on August 6, it will be the 99th satellite launch mission Xichang Satellite Launch Center. Task code should be 07-73

I only have 98 launches on my tables. Can someone please verify this?
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) (?) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 08/05/2016 04:39 pm
From Chinese microblogging (approximate translation from Chinese):
"Just now there's been a satellite launch; I thought it was an earthquake; on this point Xichang is not good!"
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) (?) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: russianhalo117 on 08/05/2016 04:42 pm
长征三号乙运载火箭的发射时间是8月6日00:22,将是西昌卫星发射中心的第99次卫星发射任务。任务代号应该是07-73

Automatic translation: Long March 3B launch time is at 00:22 on August 6, it will be the 99th satellite launch mission Xichang Satellite Launch Center. Task code should be 07-73

I only have 98 launches on my tables. Can someone please verify this?
With the rare sub-orbital launches from here it should be even higher than 99. Ill do so checking of yours against aniks recently updated spreadsheets.
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) (?) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Satori on 08/05/2016 04:44 pm
长征三号乙运载火箭的发射时间是8月6日00:22,将是西昌卫星发射中心的第99次卫星发射任务。任务代号应该是07-73

Automatic translation: Long March 3B launch time is at 00:22 on August 6, it will be the 99th satellite launch mission Xichang Satellite Launch Center. Task code should be 07-73

I only have 98 launches on my tables. Can someone please verify this?
With the rare sub-orbital launches from here it should be even higher than 99. Ill do so checking of yours against aniks recently updated spreadsheets.

Note that they are saying "99th satellite launch mission".
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) (?) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: starbase on 08/05/2016 04:44 pm
Launch video: https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/761599876379521025
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) (?) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Liss on 08/05/2016 04:57 pm
I only have 98 launches on my tables. Can someone please verify this?
Mine is 98th too.
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) (?) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 08/05/2016 05:07 pm
Launch success has been confirmed. (http://weibo.com/2280198017/E2dlOt4te?refer_flag=1001030103_)

The name of the satellite and the launch time is correct.
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) (?) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 08/05/2016 05:10 pm
Let's go with this for now and add more as we get it. Article via Rui, of course:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2016/08/long-march-3b-tiantong-1-satellite/
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: chewi on 08/05/2016 05:23 pm
http://www.chinanews.com/mil/2016/08-06/7963337.shtml

Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 08/05/2016 06:55 pm
2 objects have been cataloged by USSTRATCOM:

2016-048A/41725 in 193 x 35851 km x 28.59° (Tiantong-1A)
2016-048B/41726 in 187 x 34832 km x 28.49° (CZ-3B 3rd stage)
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Satori on 08/05/2016 07:39 pm
China launches first mobile telecom satellite (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-08/06/c_135567667.htm).
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Satori on 08/05/2016 08:31 pm
According to the 9ifly.com Chinese space forum, launchers serial number is Y35.
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 08/06/2016 02:32 am
In hi-res:
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 08/06/2016 02:46 am
Well, it looks like that the satellite isn't as secret as we thought - this satellite, China's first mobile communications system sat, was apparently conceived after the 2008 Sichuan earthquake, when the Chinese had to rely on the likes of Inmarsat and Thuraya for emergency comms.

http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzIzMzI0MDU5OA==&mid=2650245548&idx=2&sn=b49e1828304bedcc42657ef9f80e196c&scene=23&srcid=0806PYVQ8QhIrpxSfcs0Y5F2#rd (http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzIzMzI0MDU5OA==&mid=2650245548&idx=2&sn=b49e1828304bedcc42657ef9f80e196c&scene=23&srcid=0806PYVQ8QhIrpxSfcs0Y5F2#rd)
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 08/06/2016 05:40 am
Short launch videos:
http://tv.cctv.com/2016/08/06/VIDEqsNHxewo0g3BbnJCFhLX160806.shtml
http://tv.cctv.com/2016/08/06/VIDEp49b4Z7vZJB9on4Rdhdy160806.shtml
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Lewis007 on 08/06/2016 06:39 am
Launch video on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCEnz24ZIJE
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 08/06/2016 07:51 pm
A representation of Tiantong-1 (01) (from CCTV-7 report (http://tv.cctv.com/2016/08/06/VIDEPyQigXSrq6VOlCSdRswG160806.shtml))
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 08/07/2016 06:01 am
A tentative payload antenna configuration:
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Phillip Clark on 08/07/2016 10:18 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-37001773

The Chinese have a new launch pad in downtown Beijing? ;)
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Star One on 08/07/2016 06:30 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-37001773

The Chinese have a new launch pad in downtown Beijing? ;)

That looks like an auto translated article of some type judging by the robotic grammar.
Title: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: GELORD on 08/08/2016 12:34 pm
The exact start time of the launch vehicle CZ-3B/G2 - 00:22:04.273 
https://banned/chinaspaceflight (https://banned/chinaspaceflight)

domain: new vk com is apparently banned (mod)
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 08/09/2016 08:02 am
More details on the large deployable mesh antenna reflector:
http://www.shobserver.com/news/detail?id=26641
http://www.eeban.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=452314
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: input~2 on 08/09/2016 08:19 am
The exact start time of the launch vehicle CZ-3B/G2 - 00:22:04.273
and confirmation of the launch codename as "07-73"
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: Phillip Clark on 08/11/2016 03:55 pm
Do we have a translation for Tiantong, please?
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: beidou on 08/11/2016 04:17 pm
Do we have a translation for Tiantong, please?

I would go for SkyCom(munication).
Title: Re: Tiantong-1 (01) - CZ-3B/G2- XSLC, LC3 - August 5, 2016 (16:22 UTC)
Post by: russianhalo117 on 08/16/2016 09:51 pm
USSTRATCOM has issued a TLE of Tiantong 1 that confirms that it was the UNID that Cees Bassa found on some of Paul
Camilleri's images of 2016 Aug 11 UTC. It was drifting west at about 0.5 deg/d when Paul imaged it on Aug 11 and 13 UTC.
It is now synchronous near 101.4 E, in a 5 deg inclined orbit.

Ted Molczan

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