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Robotic Spacecraft (Astronomy, Planetary, Earth, Solar/Heliophysics) => Space Science Coverage => Topic started by: Blackstar on 05/10/2015 02:12 am
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http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2015/05/07/united-arab-emirates-partner-cu-boulder-2021-mars-mission
United Arab Emirates to partner with CU-Boulder on 2021 Mars mission
May 7, 2015
A mission to study dynamic changes in the atmosphere of Mars over days and seasons led by the United Arab Emirates (UAE) involves the University of Colorado Boulder as the leading U.S. scientific-academic partner.
Known as the Emirates Mars Mission, the project is being designed to observe weather phenomena like Martian clouds and dust storms as well as changes in temperature, water vapor and other gases throughout the layers of the atmosphere. The CU-Boulder part of the mission will be undertaken at the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics (LASP).
The mission will be headquartered at and controlled from the Mohammed bin Rashid Space Centre in Dubai, which is affiliated with the Emirates Institution for Advanced Science and Technology. According to Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid, vice president and prime minister of Dubai, the new Mars probe will be named Hope.
The UAE’s U.S. scientific-academic partners also include the University of California, Berkeley, and Arizona State University.
“We view this as a marvelous partnership and unlike anything the university has ever done before,” said CU-Boulder Chancellor Philip DiStefano. “This mission not only will involve the advancement of important science, it will include a large emphasis on international education, something CU-Boulder is strengthening at a rapid pace.”
Education and outreach efforts are expected to reach thousands of K-12 students, undergraduates and graduate students from around the world, said DiStefano.
Leading the mission are more than 75 Emirati engineers and researchers, a number that is expected to grow to more than 150 by 2020. Mike McGrath, LASP engineering director and project lead at CU-Boulder, said that a team comprised of CU-Boulder faculty, LASP engineering and missions operations staff and university students will contribute to the effort. The mission is still in its early planning stages, said McGrath.
The science objectives include round-the-clock global weather mapping of the Red Planet in order to better understand how surface weather changes the upper Martian atmosphere. Scientists are interested in how and why Mars -- which has gone from a warm, wet planet to a cold, dry planet -- is losing its oxygen and hydrogen into space.
The UAE is a constitutional federation of seven emirates, or principalities: Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Sharjah, Ajman, Umm al-Qaiwain, Ras al-Khaimah and Fujairah.
Faculty, staff and students from all three U.S. universities will work with UAE researchers on mission data analysis, said McGrath.
LASP currently is leading NASA’s Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution (MAVEN) mission that began orbiting Mars in September 2014 to help scientists better understand the role atmospheric gases played in changing the climate on the planet over the eons. Data from the new UAE-led mission is expected to complement data from MAVEN and other NASA Mars missions.
Statements from University of Colorado officials
on the Emirates Mars Mission
“We believe the Emiratis are leading one of the most promising space missions in recent years, with benefits for scientists and students at CU-Boulder, in the UAE, and around the world. We hope, in working together, to create new partners for research and science education on a global scale and to begin to redefine space exploration in an exciting new era.”
-- CU-Boulder Chancellor Philip P. DiStefano
“CU-Boulder’s participation in the Emirates Mars Mission is a symbol of the talent and expertise that the University of Colorado Boulder brings to Colorado’s global aerospace industry. Taxpayers and CU stakeholders can be proud of this unique and groundbreaking project that will bring jobs, revenue and vital international learning and research experiences for CU-Boulder undergraduate and graduate students.”
-- University of Colorado President Bruce Benson
“This project is an exciting expansion of CU-Boulder’s and LASP’s capabilities and marks a key next step in space exploration in the forging of a direct research partnership with the United Arab Emirates. Not only is the aerospace industry watching this project, we can say with confidence that the entire world will be watching.”
-- CU-Boulder Provost Russell L. Moore
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHen3W3g0K0
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http://spacenews.com/uae-positions-2020-mars-probe-as-catalyst-for-a-new-generation-of-arab-scientists-and-engineers/?utm_content=buffer951ae&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
UAE Unveils Science Goals for ‘Hope’ Mars Probe
by Brian Berger — May 6, 2015
The United Arab Emirates’ space agency might only be 10 months old, but it’s already signed multiple agreements with established spacefaring nations and just released this slick video — along with some new details — about its plan to launch the Arab world’s first Mars probe in July 2020.
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there is already a thread for that
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=35195.0
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That thread is about the UAE space agency. This is about the science mission. Properly belongs in the science section.
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Any idea what the notional launcher in the video is supposed to represent ?
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Soyuz? It would let them launch from French Guiana or from Russia.
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Not much news has made it to NSF, but the UAE has decided to give the ride to space to Japan (MHI) (https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/712181212316614656).
Hope Mars Mission @HopeMarsMission
The #EmiratesMarsMission team would like to announce the choosing of #MHI as #Hope's launch provider in #2020.
JAXA and the UAE Space Agency has signed a co-operation agreement today too (http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2016/03/20160322_uaesa.html); maybe we will see Japanese instruments on board given that JAXA has no Mars missions in the pipeline?
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Not much news has made it to NSF, but the UAE has decided to give the ride to space to Japan (MHI) (https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/712181212316614656).
Hope Mars Mission @HopeMarsMission
The #EmiratesMarsMission team would like to announce the choosing of #MHI as #Hope's launch provider in #2020.
JAXA and the UAE Space Agency has signed a co-operation agreement today too (http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2016/03/20160322_uaesa.html); maybe we will see Japanese instruments on board given that JAXA has no Mars missions in the pipeline?
It seems strange that they would choose a non-commercial rocket. I wonder what benefit they gain from using what I'm assuming is a non-competitively priced rocket over a Russian, Indian, or American one.
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Not much news has made it to NSF, but the UAE has decided to give the ride to space to Japan (MHI) (https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/712181212316614656).
Hope Mars Mission @HopeMarsMission
The #EmiratesMarsMission team would like to announce the choosing of #MHI as #Hope's launch provider in #2020.
JAXA and the UAE Space Agency has signed a co-operation agreement today too (http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2016/03/20160322_uaesa.html); maybe we will see Japanese instruments on board given that JAXA has no Mars missions in the pipeline?
It seems strange that they would choose a non-commercial rocket. I wonder what benefit they gain from using what I'm assuming is a non-competitively priced rocket over a Russian, Indian, or American one.
"Commercial" is not the be all and end all of launcher choice.
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Not much news has made it to NSF, but the UAE has decided to give the ride to space to Japan (MHI) (https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/712181212316614656).
Hope Mars Mission @HopeMarsMission
The #EmiratesMarsMission team would like to announce the choosing of #MHI as #Hope's launch provider in #2020.
JAXA and the UAE Space Agency has signed a co-operation agreement today too (http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2016/03/20160322_uaesa.html); maybe we will see Japanese instruments on board given that JAXA has no Mars missions in the pipeline?
It seems strange that they would choose a non-commercial rocket. I wonder what benefit they gain from using what I'm assuming is a non-competitively priced rocket over a Russian, Indian, or American one.
"Commercial" is not the be all and end all of launcher choice.
I understand that, but from the fact that H-IIA isn't marketed commercially, I would assume that it costs more than its identically performing commercial counterparts.
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Not much news has made it to NSF, but the UAE has decided to give the ride to space to Japan (MHI) (https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/712181212316614656).
Hope Mars Mission @HopeMarsMission
The #EmiratesMarsMission team would like to announce the choosing of #MHI as #Hope's launch provider in #2020.
JAXA and the UAE Space Agency has signed a co-operation agreement today too (http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2016/03/20160322_uaesa.html); maybe we will see Japanese instruments on board given that JAXA has no Mars missions in the pipeline?
It seems strange that they would choose a non-commercial rocket. I wonder what benefit they gain from using what I'm assuming is a non-competitively priced rocket over a Russian, Indian, or American one.
"Commercial" is not the be all and end all of launcher choice.
I understand that, but from the fact that H-IIA isn't marketed commercially, I would assume that it costs more than its identically performing commercial counterparts.
H-IIA has been marketed commercially for a few years now, and had a fully commercial launch (Telstar-12V) last year.
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Not much news has made it to NSF, but the UAE has decided to give the ride to space to Japan (MHI) (https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/712181212316614656).
Hope Mars Mission @HopeMarsMission
The #EmiratesMarsMission team would like to announce the choosing of #MHI as #Hope's launch provider in #2020.
JAXA and the UAE Space Agency has signed a co-operation agreement today too (http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2016/03/20160322_uaesa.html); maybe we will see Japanese instruments on board given that JAXA has no Mars missions in the pipeline?
It seems strange that they would choose a non-commercial rocket. I wonder what benefit they gain from using what I'm assuming is a non-competitively priced rocket over a Russian, Indian, or American one.
"Commercial" is not the be all and end all of launcher choice.
I understand that, but from the fact that H-IIA isn't marketed commercially, I would assume that it costs more than its identically performing commercial counterparts.
We are talking about the Emirates here I doubt cost was first amongst their considerations. Plus this launcher has conducted commercial launches in the past.
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Assumptions here about launch costing, choices of vendors, etc ... are presuming way too much here.
Relationships are what missions like this are about, so stay focused on "who" is doing "what", "when" and "how".
Completely forget tracking "budget".
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http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/government/uae-unveils-details-of-uae-mars-mission-1.1505710
“This probe represents hope for millions of young Arabs looking for a better future. There is no future, no achievement, no life without hope,” Shaikh Mohammad said. “The Emirates Mars Mission will be a great contribution to human knowledge, a milestone for Arab civilisation, and a real investment for future generations.”
The Emirates Mars Mission will send three important messages, he added.
“The first message is for the world: that Arab civilisation once played a great role in contributing to human knowledge, and will play that role again.”
“The second message is to our Arab brethren: that nothing is impossible, and that we can compete with the greatest of nations in the race for knowledge.”
“The third message is for those who strive to reach the highest of peaks: set no limits to your ambitions, and you can reach even to space.”
Shaikh Mohammad announced that the probe would be called “Hope”, a name chosen after the Arab world was invited to submit suggestions in a public campaign.
This is extremely important in the current context (hints: Brussels, Paris, M. Le Pen and D. Tru..p)
May the space program make a difference ! I'm rooting for this mission.
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Money.cnn.com video 'Inside the UAE's space program' focuses the second part on the mission.
http://money.cnn.com/video/technology/2016/03/02/mbrsc-space-center-uae.cnnmoney/index.html
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Passed PDR;
Jeff Foust @jeff_foust 24m24 minutes ago
Jim Watzin, head of NASA Mars program: was at the recent PDR for the UAE’s Mars orbiter, Hope; they’re making remarkable progress.
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https://www.zawya.com/mena/en/story/UAE_Mars_mission_on_track_for_2020_launch-ZAWYA20170126065507/
UAE Mars mission on track for 2020 launch
Dubai: The Emirates Mars Mission (EMM) is on track to launch the Hope spacecraft in July 2020 on its seven-month journey to the Red Planet, the mission’s project manager said on Wednesday at the Project Space Forum in Dubai.
Omran Sharaf said: “The mission has been on track so far. We’ve completed the PDR — Preliminary Design Review — and hopefully we’ll hold the CDR [Critical Design Review] soon.”
His comments came during his presentation on ‘How Could the UAE Get to Mars?’ on the second and final day of the forum, held at Dubai World Trade Centre for the first time.
Project Space is held under the patronage of Shaikh Hamdan Bin Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Crown Prince of Dubai. Shaikh Hamdan is the chairman of the Mohammad Bin Rashid Space Centre (MBRSC), organiser of Project Space.
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http://www.khaleejtimes.com/technology/uae-mars-mission-gets-launch-date
UAE Mars mission gets launch date
UAE's unmanned probe, Hope will be launched in July 2020 from Japan, making it the Arab World's first mission to the Red Planet, a senior Space scientist told Khaleej Times.
"We are delighted to launch the UAE's Mars explorer by the Japanese launch vehicle H-IIA from Tanegashima Space Center in Japan in 2020. We are confident that we will accomplish our responsibility, together with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries," said Yuichi Yamaura, Vice President, Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA).
He was speaking on the sidelines of the second day of the Global Space Congress held in the Capital. The two-day forum, held under the patronage of His Highness, Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice President and Prime Minister of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai, was attended by more than 600 experts and focused greatly on the future of UAE's Space programme and Mars expeditions.
Yamaura pointed out that the H-IIA rocket model will also launch the satellite, KhalifaSat into Earth's orbit by 2018, which is built entirely by Emirati engineers.
"It will be small satellites 50 kilogram and one cube sat that will be injected into space from JAXA's, international space station, launched by the Japanese rocket and reached into space," he explained.
He also added that UAE and Japan have agreed to have more collaborations in the future.
Jean-Yves Le Gall, President Centre National d'Etudes Spatiales (CNES) and President, International Astronautical Federation, highlighted that the Mars exploration plays a pivotal role as it could add more proof to what he states as a possibility of life on Mars.
"This exploration is very important for three reasons; first is innovation, because we are doing space in very different way to five years ago; second is cooperation, because projects need cooperation - space stations are the biggest cooperative projects between nations; and third key is aspiration, because we need to attract young generations, in my opinion aspiration is the perfect mix between all these key words."
"Aspiration of Mars in particular is important, because we know that life is possible on Mars, and the real question is how such a life exists on Earth, but not on Mars," he added.
The space experts who spoke at the Congress noted they are eager to witness what the UAE will achieve from the mission. They suggested that journey to Mars should not be disregarded after one successful round, as a possibility of human habitation on Mars could very well take place in the near future.
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http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/government/uae-may-study-viability-of-sending-astronauts-to-space-1.1971157
UAE may study viability of sending astronauts to space
Young minds needed to further space exploration and technology development, experts say
Published: 18:00 January 31, 2017
Gulf News
Samihah Zaman, Staff Reporter
Abu Dhabi: The UAE may soon study the viability of sending astronauts to space, a top official said in the capital on Tuesday.
“While it has not been studied yet, sending an astronaut into space would fall within the bounds of our national space policy,” Khalid Al Hashemi, director of space missions at the UAE Space Agency, said.
This would be a further incentive to attract young Emirati minds towards studying Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics (STEM), one of the main goals of the UAE’s space exploration and investment initiatives, he added.
Al Hashemi was speaking in a panel discussion on the opening day of the Global Space Congress in Abu Dhabi.
Samer Halawi, chief executive officer at mobile satellite phone provider, Thuraya, highlighted the need for young minds to drive innovation in the space sector.
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A new presentation about the UAE Mars mission. Includes quite a few technical details.
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A new presentation about the UAE Mars mission. Includes quite a few technical details.
So it will orbit in a tangent to Deimos' orbit. That is something new. But that pdf doesn't say anything about science targets studying Deimos. I'd think it would be a great opportunity for doing multiple close flybys of that strange moon. If the probe does get close to Deimos (in spite of its inclined orbit), it seems equipped to at least image it much better than ever before.
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Don't get the wrong idea. The science orbit/instruments are intended primarily to support a means to study longitudinally surface/atmospheric processes, not Deimos in detail.
The moons of Mars are interesting for the dust associated with them.
Note that the other spacecraft are much closer to the planet. MRO's HiRISE resolution is enhanced at the cost of a narrow FOV. Likewise, MAVEN can "deep dip", but at the cost of a narrow sampling "slice" each time.
If you want a comprehensive view of processes, you need to observe more of the planet, in context, at once. Perhaps you might even see mass/particle flows/effects.
For a desert planet. Very apropos.
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The most interesting slides.
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Don't get the wrong idea. The science orbit/instruments are intended primarily to support a means to study longitudinally surface/atmospheric processes, not Deimos in detail.
The moons of Mars are interesting for the dust associated with them.
You're most likely right, but it feels like a huge coincidence to have the probe aligned with a moon. Compare Mars Express with Phobos' orbit: crosses it, but isn't half as aligned as Hope seems to be with Deimos. If the primary succeeds this seems like an opportunity for the UAE to do some encounter science as a followup.
Note that the other spacecraft are much closer to the planet. MRO's HiRISE resolution is enhanced at the cost of a narrow FOV. Likewise, MAVEN can "deep dip", but at the cost of a narrow sampling "slice" each time.
If you want a comprehensive view of processes, you need to observe more of the planet, in context, at once. Perhaps you might even see mass/particle flows/effects.
For a desert planet. Very apropos.
Curious to see how Hope's science could complement MAVEN's. A different vantage point can yield surprises.
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Likewise, MAVEN can "deep dip", but at the cost of a narrow sampling "slice" each time.
Curious to see how Hope's science could complement MAVEN's. A different vantage point can yield surprises.
Definitely complements MAVEN. Which is particles and fields. Inside processes. Isotope ratios etc.
Now, lets zoom back from the close-up, knowing the processes/densities/flux at certain regions, now you have comprehensive view instruments that capture signatures of all, including those, over time. You can see how the pattern shifts, and if you wanted to, you might sample a changing region with MAVEN to see if the situation is novel.
MAVEN is an experiential "fly through it, in the moment". Hope is a "connect the pieces to form a whole, at the moment". And, the longer both operate, the more you get of a concrete picture of how the thin atmosphere, no static magnetic field, allows "space weather" to come down close to the planet, brushing up against those remnant crustal magnetic fields.
Unfortunately, MAVEN's science mission is limited by its "relay role" - once that happens and it becomes a used relay, the instruments can't recover from being stuck in the relay orbit. So its very unlikely that the two will operate together.
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Atmospheric science is certainly the main goal, but if you are close to Deimos and can take images nobody else can, that's a big deal in itself. Seeing Deimos up close with modern instruments would be very useful, and certain to get people's attention. Inspiration is also one of their goals. I will be trying to find out more about their plans.
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Atmospheric science is certainly the main goal, but if you are close to Deimos and can take images nobody else can, that's a big deal in itself. Seeing Deimos up close with modern instruments would be very useful, and certain to get people's attention. Inspiration is also one of their goals. I will be trying to find out more about their plans.
I agree. However, as Space Ghost warns us, no plans are specified for Deimos yet. All we know is there's potential for encounters. Best to downplay the drama, as much as I pray this ends up yielding visits to Mars' outer moon.
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Incidentally, I hear that India's MOM mission team is looking for opportunities to image Deimos again, after its distant observations a couple of years ago.
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http://www.leonarddavid.com/uaes-march-to-mars/
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From a certain Buzz:
My Apollo 11 mission with my colleagues, Neil Armstrong and Michael Collins, symbolised the ability of a nation to imagine a truly path-breaking idea, prioritise it, create the technology to advance the idea and then ride it to completion.
Now the destination some 55 years later is the red planet, Mars.
I am gladdened that the United Arab Emirates has Mars in its sights, not only moving forward on its own robotic Mars orbiter, Hope, but also establishing the first inhabitable human settlement on the planet by 2117.
http://www.thenational.ae/opinion/comment/humanitys-reach-for-mars-a-rendezvous-with-destiny#full
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Some more.
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Fly Emirates to Mars. ;D The vision of Emirates-flagged ITS ships flying to Mars...
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Fly Emirates to Mars. ;D The vision of Emirates-flagged ITS ships flying to Mars...
I'd prefer Emirates to United......
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UAE has eyes on the stars
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dubai-uae-has-eyes-on-the-stars-442872/
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The Hope probe is almost complete, and ready for be launch the next year..
“The Emirates Mars Mission’s Hope Probe is almost complete. The UAE is on the verge of making history, after turning its dream of becoming the first Arabic and Islamic country to send a spacecraft to Mars into reality. This monumental endeavour is the culmination of the efforts of a skilled and experienced team of young Emiratis, who with the support of the nation and its visionary leadership will secure the UAE’s position at the forefront of space exploration and the international space sector.”
https://spacewatch.global/2019/04/uaes-hope-mars-mission-probe-nears-completion-set-for-third-quarter-2020-launch/
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Continue the progress with this mission...and new project with the seeds of palm trees...
https://gulfnews.com/uae/science/mars-mission-uae-space-agency-explores-the-possibility-of-cultivating-palm-trees-on-mars-1.65640240
During the 6th Liwa Ajman Dates and Honey Festival 2019, which concluded on Sunday, the UAE Space Agency highlighted the possibility of cultivating palm trees on Mars. The agency’s plan is to send palm tree seeds to the International Space Agency, which will perform experiments and send the seeds to Mars for cultivation.
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Very good report about this mission...
https://www.space.com/hope-emirates-mars-mission.html
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Just got a very detailed article from the New York Times about this project (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/15/science/mars-united-arab-emirates.html), including some in-depth interviews with people involved.
The spacecraft has just been sent from the University of Colorado to Dubai this Monday for final processing before flying to Japan later.
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Just got a very detailed article from the New York Times about this project (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/15/science/mars-united-arab-emirates.html), including some in-depth interviews with people involved.
The spacecraft has just been sent from the University of Colorado to Dubai this Monday for final processing before flying to Japan later.
That is an interesting article. They have a very good strategy for developing a space industry.
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https://twitter.com/HamdanMohammed/status/1229797393807351808
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UAE Mars mission to ship to launch site (https://spacenews.com/uae-mars-mission-to-ship-to-launch-site/), dated April 20
Al Amal (Hope in English) ships to Japan on April 20--this was originally planned for May. Plans changed due to pandemic.
Preparation for the launch had been going well, Omran Sharaf, project director for the mission, said in an April 17 presentation at an online meeting of NASA’s Mars Exploration Program Analysis Group (MEPAG). The spacecraft completed environmental testing in the United States last December and was then transported to Dubai for a final set of tests.
Original plans called for completing those tests in May, then shipping the spacecraft to the Tanegashima Space Center in Japan for final launch preparations. The pandemic, though, led mission management to move up the ship date to April 20.
Paraphrase:
Pandemic restrictions for international travel into Japan include two weeks of self-quarantine after arrival. An advance group of engineers preceded the spacecraft so that they would be out of quarantine and begin work immediately upon Hope's arrival.
Sharaf re: testing in Dubai:
Moving up the ship date, he said, means that some spacecraft tests won’t be performed. “We had to focus only on the critical testing and remove the additional testing,” he said. “It would have been good to have some of these tests, but we had to focus on completing the critical ones.”
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Seems like July is the month to launch Mars missions! One of these missions - an Emirati orbiter named “Hope” - arrived at its launch site on Friday for final prep before launch NET July 14th.
https://twitter.com/TylerG1998/status/1254557169502113793
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The launch campaign thread is in the Japanese Launches sub-forum here (https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=50685.0). Launch campaign updates and discussion belong there, not here.
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The NSF article (https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2020/04/uae-mars-orbiter-arrives-launch-site/) cites the techincal specs as shown on the Hope website (https://www.mbrsc.ae/emirates-mars-mission): 2.37 x 2.90 meters size, 1500 kg weight, 600 W solar panels, 1,5 m diameter antenna etc. BUT that data corresponds to this outdated concept of 2015 (https://web.archive.org/web/20151118045208/http://emm.ae/mars-probe/), showing a hexagonal spacecraft with thee solar panels. The actual probe as built and shown in the NSF article looks very different. E.g. measured by the people in the picture, the antenna diameter seems to be >= 2 m, not 1,5 m. So I assume that all the data @ https://www.mbrsc.ae/emirates-mars-mission are old stuff which was not properly updated.
Maybe there is some paper out there that describes the actual spacecraft?
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Hope Mars mission successfully launched today.
Looking for the thread(s) that will cover the spacecraft in heliocentric orbit during its 6 month flight to Mars. Is that this thread?
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Interplanetary flight to Mars will be covered in this thread, yes.
Operations at Mars, assuming all goes well, will also be covered in this thread.
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For the records:
Successfully launched on 2020/07/19:
(https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/assets/50685.0/1954149.jpg)
(https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/assets/50685.0/1954151.jpg)
Travel to Mars started:
https://twitter.com/MHI_LS/status/1284985282572386304
Launch thread: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=50685.100
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Excellent! First image of Mars!
https://twitter.com/HHShkMohd/status/1285973631433048064
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Since this is a deep space mission - what network is tracking the spacecraft - Japan? NASA/JPL/DSN? ESA? Russia? China?
Some combination?
thanks!
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Since the spacecraft was largely made in the US, I would expect the DSN to be used. This capture shows EMM (Emirates Mars Mission) as one of the spacecraft using the DSN.
https://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html
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https://twitter.com/hopemarsmission/status/1301463701388656647
The #HopeProbe has now commenced the 'normal operations' phase of its cruise, following the successful completion of the commissioning phase in which we have ensured that all onboard systems are operating nominally.
#HopeMarsMission
#ProbeLocation
https://twitter.com/hopemarsmission/status/1301463904304984065
As the distance between the Hope probe and Earth increases, we are now reducing communications to essential operations during the cruise phase as we head towards our third Trajectory Control Manouevre in November. #HopeMarsMission
#ProbeLocation
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Anyone know what happened to TCM2? TCM-1 was announced in August and now TCM-3 on Nov. 8.
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Anyone know what happened to TCM2? TCM-1 was announced in August and now TCM-3 on Nov. 8.
TCM 2 took place on August 28
https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/science/uae-s-hope-probe-journey-to-mars-nears-halfway-mark-1.1089838
https://www.emaratalyoum.com/local-section/other/2020-10-07-1.1407253
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https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/1357219957608755207
On February 9, 2021, the Hope Probe will reach the Red Planet and go completely dark for 30 minutes. Will Hope Probe succeed?
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Follow Mars race in real time!
(https://discourse-data.ams3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/3X/d/6/d6380ee0fbfeee44f07a147670e5650935b553c1.jpeg)
http://win98.altervista.org/space/exploration/3d/marsrace.html
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Orbit insertion burn for the Emirates Hope spacecraft is scheduled to start tomorrow, Feb. 9, at 15:14 UTC. Burn is expected to last 27 min. The UAE space agency is planning to provide live coverage: https://www.emiratesmarsmission.ae/live (https://www.emiratesmarsmission.ae/live)
Current distance between Earth and Mars is about 1.26 A.U., corresponding to a light travel time of 10.5 minutes.
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https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/1358733283421478912
Upon completing the Mars Orbit Insertion, the UAE will be the 5th nation in human history to reach the Red Planet. It is now time to end 50 years of ambition, with a new beginning.
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https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/1358696803688939521
Only 1 day separating us from witnessing the dream of a nation enter the dark 27 minutes that determine our future and our fate. We hope for Hope as it gets closer to being captured into Mars’ orbit.
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The Emirates Mars Mission - or Al Amal (means The Hope) will enter Mars orbit tomorrow. It's just 18 hours away. So it's time to bring this thread to the front again.
According to the magazine "Info Shymkent" is the timeline (in UTC) of the Hope probe to enter Mars orbit as following:
• 3.30 pm: Burn of the thruster engines starts
• 3.42 pm: Mission control receive signal that the thruster engines starting
• 3.57 pm: Thruster engines finishing their work and Al Amal is in orbit
• 4.08 pm: Mission control receive signal that Emirates Mars Mission is in orbit
There is also a illustration with the scientific instruments of the EEM spacecraft:
https://www.shymkent.info/2021/02/08/first-spacecrafts-from-arabia-and-china-arrive-at-red-planet/ (https://www.shymkent.info/2021/02/08/first-spacecrafts-from-arabia-and-china-arrive-at-red-planet/)
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(https://discourse-data.ams3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/optimized/3X/4/9/498c44f2c757da27eaa8fdfeb47494a27ffa675f_2_690x469.png)
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DSN Canberra now tracking, Madrid due to take over in a couple of hours.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Madrid_DSN/status/1359100721736654850
Amateur trackers also doing their thing, and details are available for those who would like to join:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ea4gpz/status/1359081315379933184
Note timings derived from maneuver duration estimates (unofficial!):
https://mobile.twitter.com/ea4gpz/status/1359081310208294912
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Live feed of the arrival at Mars:
https://www.emiratesmarsmission.ae/live/
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DSN Madrid now tracking.
https://twitter.com/Madrid_DSN/status/1359126204054405127
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Livestream in English: https://twitter.com/infoshymkent/status/1359159426880577537 (https://twitter.com/infoshymkent/status/1359159426880577537)
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Burn of Thrusters have to start right now. Let's see if we get confirmation in some minutes.
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Thrusters have to work now and first signal have to received at Mission Control - but it looks like we have to wait another 30 minutes for confirmation:
https://twitter.com/SarwatNasir/status/1359165225006678020 (https://twitter.com/SarwatNasir/status/1359165225006678020)
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Confirmation of Burn:
https://twitter.com/infoshymkent/status/1359167152390098944 (https://twitter.com/infoshymkent/status/1359167152390098944)
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Live from MCC-Dubai and Dubai itself:
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Good burn!
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https://twitter.com/hopemarsmission/status/1359174098862145538
Success!
Contact with #HopeProbe has been established again.
The Mars Orbit Insertion is now complete.
#ArabsToMars
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Seikh in MCC:
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https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1359174028305567748
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Congratulations to the United Arab Emirates on this spectacular success which I hope will be (even more) transformative to them!
Official first announcement in Arabic:
https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/1359173811984355330
(https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/1359173811984355330)
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Congratulations to the Hope-Team from the UAE and around the world.
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Congrats and welcome to the (small) club!
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Archived video of orbit insertion:
https://youtu.be/TmXfKaTePD4
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Hope next orbits are now on NASA Horizons.
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https://twitter.com/MohamedBinZayed/status/1360882127164887042
The transmission of the Hope Probe's first image of Mars is a defining moment in our history and marks the UAE joining advanced nations involved in space exploration. We hope this mission will lead to new discoveries about Mars which will benefit humanity.
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https://twitter.com/hopemarsmission/status/1366279634611040258
Using 3 color bands, Hope Probe’s EXI captured images of Mars to give us an in-depth overview of the planet’s atmosphere.
#ArabsToMars #HopeProbe
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https://twitter.com/hopemarsmission/status/1366279634611040258
Using 3 color bands, Hope Probe’s EXI captured images of Mars to give us an in-depth overview of the planet’s atmosphere.
#ArabsToMars #HopeProbe
Dead twitter link. Working link.
https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/1366426231881801733
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'Last scary moment' over as UAE's Hope Probe to Mars transitions to science orbit
https://www.khaleejtimes.com/news/last-scary-moment-over-as-uaes-hope-probe-to-mars-transitions-to-science-orbit
The UAE's Hope Probe has commenced transition from its capture orbit to its science one, with the successful completion of a 510-second burn of its thrusters.
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“The TSM (Transition to Science Manoeuvre) was critically important and I can say was the last truly scary moment for the mission because there was a very real risk of losing the spacecraft during this last burn. We’re now assessing the results of that burn, but I can say we are confident that we will not need a further large correction manoeuvre.”
The transition saw the Hope probe move from its 1,063 by 42,461 capture orbit to a 20,000 by 43,000 science orbit. The manoeuvre was the last scheduled ‘big burn’ in the spacecraft’s journey from its launch on July 20, 2020.
The science phase will commence on April 14 with a number of calibration and test runs that aim to establish a sound baseline for the accurate and efficient management of the measurements from the spacecraft’s three instruments. The mission’s two-year science data collection will formally commence on May 23, 2021, with data being made available globally in October.
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https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/1392063293649424386
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https://twitter.com/MohamedBinZayed/status/1360882127164887042
The transmission of the Hope Probe's first image of Mars is a defining moment in our history and marks the UAE joining advanced nations involved in space exploration. We hope this mission will lead to new discoveries about Mars which will benefit humanity.
Now THAT is a gorgeous image. Really drives home how different Mars is from the Moon.
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https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/1396473940965576705
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The New York Times - U.A.E.'s Mars Orbiter Gets New Views of Red Planet Auroras
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/science/mars-aurora-uae.html
Hope Mars Mission: An artist’s impression of how Mars’ discrete aurora might be viewed from different views including the surface of Mars when the emissions of light from the fleeting phenomenon extend into the visible spectrum as predicted by theory.
https://twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/1410276831190650881
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Nature News - Mars's glowing auroras snapped by Hope spacecraft
"Images from the orbiter are the most detailed yet of the planet's discrete auroras, ultraviolet emissions that follow the patterns of a decaying magnetic field."
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01811-4
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Magnetic field on Mars? Auroras? At the equator?!? On the dark side?!? ???
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Yes to all.
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Yes to all.
So they are not what they seem: "auroras" are caused by solar wind, which is not present in the middle of the dark side, but just at the edge; additionally they occur at poles, where EM lines are more concentrated; the article also says that this specific "auroras" are assumed to be caused by kind of an "EM frozen in the rocks" because Mars actually does not have an EM (if it had, it would still have water on surface), "but it remained in the rocks".
So this discovery is much bigger than a "strange equatorial aurora".
We found some new interesting landing site for future missions! :-)
As a side note: I read everywhere that the real cause of Earth EM is not actually known, because, unlike inside Sun, inside Earth there are no free electrons which can rotate around a solid iron core, there are only free iron molecules, without any electrical charge, which in theory, when rotating around a solid core, cannot originate any EM.
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Yes to all.
So they are not what they seem:
They are. What do you suggest they are?
"auroras" are caused by solar wind, which is not present in the middle of the dark side, but just at the edge;
Wrong: https://phys.org/news/2005-12-hundreds-auroras-mars.html
additionally they occur at poles, where EM lines are more concentrated;
Only on Earth since it has a dipole active magnetosphere. There are such things as 'fossil' magnetospheres, most notably on Mars, known for decades.
the article also says that this specific "auroras" are assumed to be caused by kind of an "EM frozen in the rocks" because Mars actually does not have an EM (if it had, it would still have water on surface), "but it remained in the rocks".
Yep, no matter how many quotes you put around them. No different than ferromagnets in concept. A *hypothesis* is that Mars lost its atmosphere, and with it its ability to support liquid water, but perhaps that was already the case before, due to the waning magnetosphere. It is far from set in stone though, just a reasonable theory with in-situ data to support it (escape rates etc).
So this discovery is much bigger than a "strange equatorial aurora".
We found some new interesting landing site for future missions! :-)
Magnetic fields may be too weak to make much of a difference but sure, it's a strength for landing sites. The discovery is at least 20 years old though.
As a side note: I read everywhere that the real cause of Earth EM is not actually known, because, unlike inside Sun, inside Earth there are no free electrons which can rotate around a solid iron core, there are only free iron molecules, without any electrical charge, which in theory, when rotating around a solid core, cannot originate any EM.
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You don't need a plasma to generate a magnetic (or EM) field. Motion of neutral material can do it. Iron atoms are not molecules. Metallic iron is generally atomic and is believed to exist in alloyed form in the core.The outer core isn't solid. Maybe the nitty gritty detailed description of how the core dynamo works aren't fully understood, also considering the large uncertainties we have regarding Earth's deep structure, but the general model is: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150128141651.htm (maybe this is what you heard).
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Yes to all.
So they are not what they seem:
They are. What do you suggest they are?
I have no idea.
"auroras" are caused by solar wind, which is not present in the middle of the dark side, but just at the edge;
Wrong: https://phys.org/news/2005-12-hundreds-auroras-mars.html
Interesting:
The discovery of hundreds of auroras over the past six years comes as a surprise, since Mars does not have the global magnetic field that on Earth is the source of the aurora borealis and the antipodal aurora australis.
Well, it looks like we need a new word to distinguish "planet EM interaction with solar winds at poles" ("aurora borealis/australis") from "terrain EM interaction with solar winds everywhere" ("sky lights everywhere" ? ;-) )
additionally they occur at poles, where EM lines are more concentrated;
Only on Earth since it has a dipole active magnetosphere. There are such things as 'fossil' magnetospheres, most notably on Mars, known for decades.
Never heard about it before. Weird phenomenon. Iron movement stops, EM disappears... but it remains "stored"... where? In iron itself?!?
So this discovery is much bigger than a "strange equatorial aurora".
We found some new interesting landing site for future missions! :-)
Magnetic fields may be too weak to make much of a difference but sure, it's a strength for landing sites. The discovery is at least 20 years old though.
I meant: they are interesting places where to put a magnetometer on the surface. It is a flying magnetometer, even better...
As a side note: I read everywhere that the real cause of Earth EM is not actually known, because, unlike inside Sun, inside Earth there are no free electrons which can rotate around a solid iron core, there are only free iron molecules, without any electrical charge, which in theory, when rotating around a solid core, cannot originate any EM.
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[...] detailed description of how the core dynamo works aren't fully understood
Yes, this is what I was referring to: I read several explanation and "official theories"... and it is very impressive how, once you finish reading, you figure out that actually nobody knows how and why there is magnetic field on Earth. For what we know, there could REALLY be an huge magnet at north pole as we use to think when we are kids! ;)
And this lack of knowledge makes it even weirder the fact of periodic Earth EM inversion. What does it "invert" itself, causing EM to invert?!? An iron flux inverting direction was already weird to think; but if there isn't actually a dynamo effect, what is inverting the EM?
Some static, non-orbiting magnetometers in those Mars sites would be very useful.
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Well, it looks like we need a new word to distinguish "planet EM interaction with solar winds at poles" ("aurora borealis/australis") from "terrain EM interaction with solar winds everywhere" ("sky lights everywhere" ? ;-) )
The phenomenon is the same, only it got named when Earth was the only place where the phenomenon was known to exist. Auroras are the phenomenon, and the common noun - australis or borealis is just Latin for South and North. So 'aurora' is also fine on Mars, Jupiter or anywhere an atmosphere is ionized through stellar winds. Just as, I don't know, 'lightning' is a term coined back when 'electricity' was not understood, and now describes the very specific electric discharges from the atmosphere.
Never heard about it before. Weird phenomenon. Iron movement stops, EM disappears... but it remains "stored"... where? In iron itself?!?
Ehm... iron-bearing minerals are just ferromagnetic and exhibit hysteresis, meaning the external magnetic field those materials were exposed to permanently (roughly speaking) aligns the spins in their microscopic domains? I agree magnetism is fascinating and not trivial at all, but this is quite close to common experience, not really that far removed from everyday life.
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[...] detailed description of how the core dynamo works aren't fully understood
Yes, this is what I was referring to: I read several explanation and "official theories"... and it is very impressive how, once you finish reading, you figure out that actually nobody knows how and why there is magnetic field on Earth. For what we know, there could REALLY be an huge magnet at north pole as we use to think when we are kids! ;)
And this lack of knowledge makes it even weirder the fact of periodic Earth EM inversion. What does it "invert" itself, causing EM to invert?!? An iron flux inverting direction was already weird to think; but if there isn't actually a dynamo effect, what is inverting the EM?
Some static, non-orbiting magnetometers in those Mars sites would be very useful.
The bolded quote is not representative of what I said, or what the link says. I said you were mixing apples with oranges with concrete: the ideas you floated regarding the fact "the real cause of the Earth's EM field is not actually known" (which is false) were either flat-out wrong, trivially misunderstood or off-base. The link shows how the core dynamo is well-understood in general, even if someone raised a doubt regarding increasing resistivity and it got swiftly solved, so it further reinforced the validity of the mechanism - which again, means we DO know the "real cause of Earth's EM field", at least generally.
"Official theories" are well grounded and know pretty well how our planet's magnetosphere works, according to our current understanding of all related phenomena. Any scientific discovery is amenable to change, of course, especially those inferred at a distance without any possibility to replicate them in the lab or perform direct measurements.
But no, there can't be a "huge magnet at the North pole", as the Sun isn't "powered by burning coal for all we know". The intricacies of how a planetary core dynamo works may still be only drafted, just as we can't model atmospheric dynamics or solar magnetism with any precision beyond a timespan of a few days - that doesn't mean we can't know whether there's a giant fan under the Arctic driving the polar vortex, or large icebergs surfacing on the Sun.
Magnetic inversion is less well-understood, but it fits in the canonical model in many ways: see Wikipedia for illustration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal#Causes , none of which need to claim "nobody knows why there's a magnetic field on Earth"!
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Hope Mars Mission: "This set of images was obtained by the Emirates Mars Mission from an altitude of 29,000 km on 24 May 2021, shortly after the commencement of regular science operations. All three instruments aboard the Hope Probe simultaneously observed the planet to provide a comprehensive snapshot centered on the Arabia Terra region of Mars in the morning. Three images from the Emirates Exploration Imager (EXI) are shown. The 635 nm filter emphasizes bright dust on the surface, while the 320 nm filter highlights the thin water ice clouds. The third is a colored image created from a composite of the red, green and blue EXI images."
twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/1417117201446932487
"At the same time, the Emirates Mars Infrared Spectrometer (EMIRS) mapped the temperature of the atmosphere, tracking how it warmed up over the course of the morning."
twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/1417118241755893765
"Finally, the Emirates Ultraviolet Spectrometer (EMUS) mapped the distribution of atomic oxygen in the planet’s upper atmosphere, showing a dense patch emerging from the nightside into the new day."
twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/1417118588805210113
"All three instruments will continue to make observations over the next Martian year to fully map the planet across all times of day in every season."
The Guardian - UAE’s Hope Mars mission hits first anniversary
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/23/spacewatch-uaes-hope-mars-mission-hits-first-anniversary
"The first full datasets from the spacecraft’s three science instruments are due back in October 2021."
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Well, it looks like we need a new word to distinguish "planet EM interaction with solar winds at poles" ("aurora borealis/australis") from "terrain EM interaction with solar winds everywhere" ("sky lights everywhere" ? ;-) )
We already have the word we need: aurora covers all solar wind/EM interaction. Borealis/australis indicate the poles.
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Hope Mars Mission:
"This EXI image was obtained on 15 March 2021 from an approximate altitude 1,325km above Mars’ surface, viewing Elysium Planitia volcanic region with a resolution of 145m/pixel. Near the center of this EXI full-color image, a 150km-long dark wind streak is formed by winds carrying dark sand away from dunes covering the floor of the adjacent 25-km-diameter crater. This dark sand was formed by erosion from ancient volcanic deposits. The brighter margins bordering the dark streak are caused by bright dust migrating from the streak’s dark interior. Observing such features with the EXI camera will continue to add to our understanding of the prevailing winds in many regions of Mars."
twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/1421767072841965569
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Hope Mars Mission:
"On October 1st, 2021, the Emirates Mars Mission's Hope Probe entered the Mars Solar Conjunction phase, where the alignment of the Sun and Earth obstructs communication with all missions around Mars for a 2 week period - lasting until the 14th of October.
During this time, Hope's instruments were stood down and put in standby mode while we waited for communications to be re-established with the spacecraft.
We are delighted to report that everything went like clockwork and the Hope Probe is once again gathering its unique observations of Mars' atmospheric dynamics throughout day and night across the whole planetary surface."
twitter.com/HopeMarsMission/status/1455439268399157255
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The UAE's Hope Mars mission team is reporting that the spacecraft has discovered a new mysterious Martian aurora. They're calling it the ‘sinuous discrete aurora', a huge worm-like aurora that extends halfway around the planet.
Dr Rob Lillis from University of California, Berkeley, has said the discovery was shocking and has left them "scratching their heads" and has taken them back to the drawing board.
https://twitter.com/SarwatNasir/status/1519285816111116288
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The study on the "patchy proton aurora" (previously "sinuous discrete aurora") is out:
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2022GL099881
Patchy Proton Aurora at Mars: A Global View of Solar Wind Precipitation Across the Martian Dayside From EMM/EMUS
Abstract
Proton aurora at Mars are thought to form indirectly, as a result of solar wind proton charge exchange with planetary coronal hydrogen upstream of the bow shock. This charge exchange produces beamed energetic neutral atoms that bypass the induced magnetosphere and cause spatially uniform auroral emission when they collide with the thermosphere. Here we report multiple definitive observations of spatially localized “patchy” proton aurora at Mars using the Emirates Mars Ultraviolet Spectrometer on the Emirates Mars Mission, and characterize the plasma environment during these events using contemporaneous Mars Atmosphere and Volatile EvolutioN mission measurements. Multiple mechanisms are required to explain these observations, including at times the direct deposition of solar wind plasma into the thermosphere, particularly during radial interplanetary magnetic field conditions. Much future work will be needed to assess these mechanisms and understand the impact of these auroral events on Mars atmospheric evolution.
Key Points
* We present the first definitive evidence for spatially localized “patchy” proton aurora on Mars
* Some events support a hypothesis that radial interplanetary magnetic field conditions can produce patchy proton aurora
* Other events occur during typical solar wind conditions, requiring new formation mechanisms related to sheath plasma turbulence
NASA feature article: MAVEN and EMM Make First Observations of Patchy Proton Aurora at Mars (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2022/maven-emm-proton-aurora) [dated Aug. 31]
NASA’s MAVEN (Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution) mission and the United Arab Emirates’ Emirates Mars Mission (EMM) have released joint observations of dynamic proton aurora events at Mars. Remote auroral observations by EMM paired with in-situ plasma observations made by MAVEN open new avenues for understanding the Martian atmosphere. This collaboration was made possible by recent data-sharing between the two missions and highlights the value of multi-point observations in space. A study of these findings appears in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.
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Recently heard this mission is going to begin flying by Deimos: https://spaceref.com/science-and-exploration/hope-probe-to-move-to-a-new-mars-orbit-and-observe-deimos/ (https://spaceref.com/science-and-exploration/hope-probe-to-move-to-a-new-mars-orbit-and-observe-deimos/)
I still remember noticing how this mission's orbit was suspiciously close to Deimos' orbit and I'm all the more glad that coincidence is being taken advantage of now for a neglected moonlet. ;D
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https://twitter.com/sarahamiri1/status/1650512000802226177
@HopeMarsMission science team has unveiled a series of unique and ground-breaking observations of Mars’ smaller moon, Deimos, using all three of its science instruments to ‘advance our fundamental understanding’ of Mars’ most mysterious moon.
The observations ware made possible during close flybys which saw Hope pass approximately 100km from Deimos.
https://twitter.com/sarahamiri1/status/1650512802254057476
The observations were shared during a session at the @EuroGeosciences General Assembly, provide new insights into Deimos’ makeup and structure. The new observations challenge the longstanding theory that Mars’ moons are captured asteroids and instead point to a planetary origin.
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*little Deimos finally getting noticed* ;D
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Interesting little space potato of a moon...
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*little Deimos finally getting noticed* ;D
Two points to redliox for that reference.
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Deimos seen by Hope Mars Mission:
https://youtu.be/MNgVpZySGgc
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A really interesting outcome of these observations is that they seem to rule out the prevailing theory that Deimos is a captured asteroid.
The composition seems instead to hint at Deimos being of martian origin.
Any time an observational result upsets the conventional thinking, much new learning ensues.
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A really interesting outcome of these observations is that they seem to rule out the prevailing theory that Deimos is a captured asteroid.
The composition seems instead to hint at Deimos being of martian origin.
The Japanese MMX mission is intended to definitively answer that. I'm not sure that observations alone can be definitive. Sample analysis may be the only definitive technique.
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A really interesting outcome of these observations is that they seem to rule out the prevailing theory that Deimos is a captured asteroid.
The composition seems instead to hint at Deimos being of martian origin.
The Japanese MMX mission is intended to definitively answer that. I'm not sure that observations alone can be definitive. Sample analysis may be the only definitive technique.
Their mission, like most for the scant Martian moon studies, will largely focus on Phobos (sample retrieval) but Deimos at least gets a few decent flybys. Although I doubt a Deimos sampling will ever happen, I'm very curious if both moons share the same composition; right now we're largely assuming they do since, overall, they're not totally dissimilar either. The hypothesis involving a Martian collision-birth implies Deimos might be older and more intact whereas Phobos is a 3rd or 4th generation recycling job; if that's true there's going to be some structural difference.
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Their mission, like most for the scant Martian moon studies, will largely focus on Phobos (sample retrieval) but Deimos at least gets a few decent flybys. Although I doubt a Deimos sampling will ever happen, I'm very curious if both moons share the same composition; right now we're largely assuming they do since, overall, they're not totally dissimilar either. The hypothesis involving a Martian collision-birth implies Deimos might be older and more intact whereas Phobos is a 3rd or 4th generation recycling job; if that's true there's going to be some structural difference.
But I think that's down in the weeds. The biggest question is captured asteroid vs. part of Mars. That should be answered by MMX. And if you answer it for one moon, you answer it for both. (I'm not assuming you don't know this. I'm just stating it for clarity.)
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/192271236@N03/52929635765/
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https://twitter.com/hopemarsmission/status/1711702855566995618
Honoured to announce that the Emirates Mars Mission’s Team has been awarded the 2023 Laurels for Team Achievement Award at IAC 2023.
This award recognizes excellence in Astronautics, celebrating EMM’s team's outstanding contributions to Mars Atmosphere Mapping and Deimos Exploration, as their relentless efforts have provided the global scientific community with vital data.