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Title: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 04/28/2015 04:31 pm
The polling for a Party Thread won....

Joffan with the winning title.

Discussion thread (a big one too):
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=33423.0

Update thread will be closer to the test (as there's less of a flow to the event when compared to the F9 launches).

We are looking into a general party thread for "regular" missions.....but so far these party threads have provided a relief valve for the main threads and haven't dominated the sections.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: 411rocket on 04/28/2015 06:41 pm
Looks like in a week, we will be able to see, how well a white dragon can jump.........  8)  ;D
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Tuts36 on 04/28/2015 06:49 pm
We are looking into a general party thread for "regular" missions.....but so far these party threads have provided a relief valve for the main threads and haven't dominated the sections.

Party threads are now tradition, no?  You can't mess with tradition!
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: JBF on 04/28/2015 06:54 pm
Love the name =)
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: ElGuapoGuano1 on 04/28/2015 08:30 pm
Dragon Abort Test Dmitry Rogozin Style
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 04/28/2015 11:11 pm
Ha, great. Boing! Boing! Jump, little Dragon, jump till you fly!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYN7mTi6HM
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: kevin-rf on 04/29/2015 01:17 am
I for one look forward to when Chris breaks out the chainsaws for the Jason Party thread!

Lets just hope the launch doesn't slip to the second Friday in November ;)
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: 411rocket on 04/29/2015 01:41 am
I for one look forward to when Chris breaks out the chainsaws for the Jason Party thread!

Lets just hope the launch doesn't slip to the second Friday in November ;)

I guess hockey masks, will be required as well........  ;)

Reminds me, I should sharpen the chain soon, too.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: vt_hokie on 04/29/2015 02:00 am
Looking forward to this one!  Fingers crossed for great success in 2015 leading to a return to US human spaceflight capability in 2017...
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: DatUser14 on 04/29/2015 12:03 pm
I made this video of what the Pad Abort might look like in Kerbal Space Program. I consider it to be accurate from a wide perspective, but am missing details (pod was crewed, not unmanned, SD's burned for longer than 5 seconds, Abort Truss wasn't accurate). Hope you enjoy:
[youtube]umUxsvGETjc[/youtube]
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: NX-0 on 04/30/2015 07:47 pm
I made this video of what the Pad Abort might look like in Kerbal Space Program. I consider it to be accurate from a wide perspective, but am missing details (pod was crewed, not unmanned, SD's burned for longer than 5 seconds, Abort Truss wasn't accurate). Hope you enjoy:
[youtube]umUxsvGETjc[/youtube]
I sure hope no Kerbals were injured.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: DatUser14 on 04/30/2015 08:43 pm
I made this video of what the Pad Abort might look like in Kerbal Space Program. I consider it to be accurate from a wide perspective, but am missing details (pod was crewed, not unmanned, SD's burned for longer than 5 seconds, Abort Truss wasn't accurate). Hope you enjoy:
[youtube]umUxsvGETjc[/youtube]
I sure hope no Kerbals were injured.
no kerbals were injured, hopefully D.A.T.A is not injured as well.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: MattMason on 04/30/2015 08:50 pm
I'm older enough to appreciate a better musical theme from the Pointer Sisters. Especially if I combine it with CRS-6's booster lifting off from the JRtI in reverse. :)

"Jump" by the Pointer Sisters (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5EGN3O5Rs8)
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: AJW on 05/01/2015 01:26 am
Moved to May 6th.  Oh, the humanity!
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 05/01/2015 04:45 am
Looks like in a week, we will be able to see, how well a white dragon can jump.........  8)  ;D
I sure hope they're changing the color scheme for this test because everyone knows....

edit: quoted the wrong comment.  oops.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Helodriver on 05/01/2015 05:07 am
I imagine the Jump will be something like this, maybe even more dramatic ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxgcK2-VBsE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxgcK2-VBsE)
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Ben the Space Brit on 05/01/2015 10:00 am
Hmm launch window starts at 7 AM EDT.

Could only mean SpaceX is going for Network morning shows viewership.  ;)

Agreed and the company is showing its media savvy too. A nice, unequivocally-successful test will be a big technology talking point throughout the day's news cycle (barring some major disaster stealing the headlines) and will doubtless provoke political comment.

At the risk of thread derailment, a successful test next Wednesday and the test flight of what I believe is the upper stage of BO's Shepard will have those on the appropriate Congressional committees looking at certain people and asking to remind them why they're being paid.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 05/01/2015 01:44 pm
Hmm launch window starts at 7 AM EDT.

Could only mean SpaceX is going for Network morning shows viewership.  ;)

Agreed and the company is showing its media savvy too. A nice, unequivocally-successful test will be a big technology talking point throughout the day's news cycle (barring some major disaster stealing the headlines) and will doubtless provoke political comment.

At the risk of thread derailment, a successful test next Wednesday and the test flight of what I believe is the upper stage of BO's Shepard will have those on the appropriate Congressional committees looking at certain people and asking to remind them why they're being paid.

Congress never asks that question.  They ask why they're paying to buy certain things.  But they never ask why people are getting paid.  I think it's that they are worried the taxpayers might get the idea into their head to ask the same question of Congress.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Ben the Space Brit on 05/01/2015 03:09 pm
The references to MythBusters on the update thread make me imagine Elon Musk shouting at someone: "I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Tuts36 on 05/01/2015 03:14 pm
I have a bit of a silly question so I'll ask it here~

Will there be the equivalent of auto crash-test dummies strapped into the capsule's seats for the abort test?

And if not, if SpaceX wanted to make some cash off this mission, they could strap life-sized Kerbals into the seats instead, and Squad could pay them for an awesome advertising opportunity for KSP's "launch"!   ;D
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Kabloona on 05/01/2015 03:16 pm
I have a bit of a silly question so I'll ask it here~

Will there be the equivalent of auto crash-test dummies strapped into the capsule's seats for the abort test?

And if not, if SpaceX wanted to make some cash off this mission, they could strap life-sized Kerbals into the seats instead, and Squad could pay them for an awesome advertising opportunity for KSP's "launch"!   ;D

Yes. Buster the crash test dummy will be taking a ride.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Norm Hartnett on 05/01/2015 03:16 pm
Don't worry it's just a short jump for Science.  ;D
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: ZachS09 on 05/01/2015 03:17 pm
I forgot who Hans was and how he's related to SpaceX.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Kabloona on 05/01/2015 03:21 pm
I forgot who Hans was and how he's related to SpaceX.

He's their VP for Mission Assurance.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 05/01/2015 03:21 pm
http://www.spacewiki.com/Dr._Hans_Koenigsmann
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: llanitedave on 05/01/2015 05:31 pm
I forgot who Hans was and how he's related to SpaceX.


Hans Delbrück, "Scientist and Saint".   :)
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: FishInferno on 05/01/2015 05:34 pm

Yes. Buster the crash test dummy will be taking a ride.

THE Buster, from Mythbusters? Probably not but that would be cool
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Jarnis on 05/01/2015 05:48 pm

Yes. Buster the crash test dummy will be taking a ride.

THE Buster, from Mythbusters? Probably not but that would be cool

Maybe Buster's rocket-flying cousin :)
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: ellindsey on 05/01/2015 06:26 pm

Yes. Buster the crash test dummy will be taking a ride.

THE Buster, from Mythbusters? Probably not but that would be cool

Maybe Buster's rocket-flying cousin :)

If the Mythbusters were doing this test, they'd insist on packing the truss with explosives to properly simulate aborting off an exploding rocket.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: WindnWar on 05/01/2015 07:24 pm

Yes. Buster the crash test dummy will be taking a ride.

THE Buster, from Mythbusters? Probably not but that would be cool

nah The Buster from the first Fast and Furious movie... keep an eye out for a tricked out car, though with all that nos they might not let it through the gate....  :o 
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: jon.amos on 05/01/2015 07:36 pm

Yes. Buster the crash test dummy will be taking a ride.

THE Buster, from Mythbusters? Probably not but that would be cool

Maybe Buster's rocket-flying cousin :)

If the Mythbusters were doing this test, they'd insist on packing the truss with explosives to properly simulate aborting off an exploding rocket.

"When in doubt...... C4"
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 05/02/2015 07:20 am

Yes. Buster the crash test dummy will be taking a ride.

THE Buster, from Mythbusters? Probably not but that would be cool

Maybe Buster's rocket-flying cousin :)

If the Mythbusters were doing this test, they'd insist on packing the truss with explosives to properly simulate aborting off an exploding rocket.

"When in doubt...... C4"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHXK2t50S-8
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/02/2015 08:12 am
I forgot who Hans was and how he's related to SpaceX.

Ah come on!  ::)
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Ohsin on 05/02/2015 08:21 am

Yes. Buster the crash test dummy will be taking a ride.

THE Buster, from Mythbusters? Probably not but that would be cool

nah The Buster from the first Fast and Furious movie... keep an eye out for a tricked out car, though with all that nos they might not let it through the gate....  :o

Kids these days...
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Jim_LAX on 05/02/2015 09:05 am
I forgot who Hans was and how he's related to SpaceX.
That could just as well be Hans Delbrück, scientist and saint.  (You have to be a Mell Brooks fan to get this one!)
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: TOG on 05/02/2015 08:43 pm
I forgot who Hans was and how he's related to SpaceX.
That could just as well be Hans Delbrück, scientist and saint.  (You have to be a Mell Brooks fan to get this one!)
As long as they don't send up Frau Blucher!
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: RedSky on 05/02/2015 09:04 pm
I forgot who Hans was and how he's related to SpaceX.
That could just as well be Hans Delbrück, scientist and saint.  (You have to be a Mell Brooks fan to get this one!)
As long as they don't send up Frau Blucher!

Neigh-heigh-heigh-heigh-heigh.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: The Roadie on 05/02/2015 10:54 pm
Just made this (using a pseudonym youtube acct)

In a possible universe where Blue Origin nails a landing from high altitude before SpaceX, and Elon has a temper. Sincerely hope neither of these things happens. Probably won't get a Blue Origin tour if they ever see this.

NOTE: Subtitles contain expletives. Not safe for work, church, or many other locations, I have to admit. [youtube]mFMyM-6ps4I[/youtube]
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Post by: NovaSilisko on 05/02/2015 11:43 pm
http://www.spacewiki.com/Dr._Hans_Koenigsmann

Boy, this wiki leaves a bit to be desired in some places:

"Virgin is expected to commence space flights sometime in 2011 or 2012 after testing of SpaceShipTwo is complete."

 :P
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: AncientU on 05/03/2015 12:25 am
http://www.spacewiki.com/Dr._Hans_Koenigsmann

Boy, this wiki leaves a bit to be desired in some places:

"Virgin is expected to commence space flights sometime in 2011 or 2012 after testing of SpaceShipTwo is complete."

 :P
It was on the Internet, so it must be true... ::)
Sorry for the weak link.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: the_other_Doug on 05/03/2015 10:41 pm

Yes. Buster the crash test dummy will be taking a ride.

THE Buster, from Mythbusters? Probably not but that would be cool

Maybe Buster's rocket-flying cousin :)

Nope.  I have it on good authority that it will be the Stig's rocket-flying cousin.

And on that bombshell...
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Prober on 05/04/2015 02:01 pm

"I'm here to put you back on schedule."   may the 4th be with you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQB2NXfJev0

Crank this up you need to feel the engines :D
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: WindnWar on 05/04/2015 03:39 pm
http://www.spacewiki.com/Dr._Hans_Koenigsmann

Boy, this wiki leaves a bit to be desired in some places:

"Virgin is expected to commence space flights sometime in 2011 or 2012 after testing of SpaceShipTwo is complete."

 :P
It was on the Internet, so it must be true... ::)
Sorry for the weak link.

For a much better one, try this oral history one from NASA JSC

http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/history/oral_histories/C3PO/KoenigsmannH/KoenigsmannH_1-15-13.htm

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Post by: kch on 05/04/2015 03:45 pm

may the 4th be with you

... and altho with you ...  :D
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Post by: Rocket Science on 05/04/2015 04:05 pm
And on that note... ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebJ-4hjNZRM
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: NovaSilisko on 05/04/2015 11:29 pm
I apparently am a minor prophet.

Compare SpaceX's infographic to the ugly one I made a while ago upon knowledge of fins trickling out:

Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Astro_Zach on 05/04/2015 11:32 pm
I apparently am a minor prophet.

Compare SpaceX's infographic to the ugly one I made a while ago upon knowledge of fins trickling out:

Well either that or you have a nice understanding of an abort system. :P
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: kirghizstan on 05/04/2015 11:32 pm
I apparently am a minor prophet.

Compare SpaceX's infographic to the ugly one I made a while ago upon knowledge of fins trickling out:




you got the trunk entering the drink upside down.  obviously you are completely wrong
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Astro_Zach on 05/04/2015 11:35 pm
I apparently am a minor prophet.

Compare SpaceX's infographic to the ugly one I made a while ago upon knowledge of fins trickling out:




you got the trunk entering the drink upside down.  obviously you are completely wrong

FTFY
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: NovaSilisko on 05/04/2015 11:36 pm
Also the original version which I deemed unlikely since there's no point in having chutes on the trunk.

I guess the reality is in between my two images. In the first one, the thrusters are burning for a very short period after the trunk separates, to give a bit more relative velocity. In this one, drag handles it, but it has chutes.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Astro_Zach on 05/04/2015 11:40 pm
Also the original version which I deemed unlikely since there's no point in having chutes on the trunk.

I guess the reality is in between my two images. In the first one, the thrusters are burning for a very short period after the trunk separates, to give a bit more relative velocity. In this one, drag handles it, but it has chutes.

So the solution is more parachutes?
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: QuantumG on 05/04/2015 11:42 pm
I can understand why the capsule doesn't continue on a parabolic trajectory - it has parachutes, but what makes the trunk fall almost straight down like it does in the SpaceX infographic? Wouldn't it go further downrange than the capsule?
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Robotbeat on 05/04/2015 11:57 pm
I can understand why the capsule doesn't continue on a parabolic trajectory - it has parachutes, but what makes the trunk fall almost straight down like it does in the SpaceX infographic? Wouldn't it go further downrange than the capsule?
Ballistic coefficient is lower for the trunk. Additionally, there could be a small separation boost by the (regular) Dracos at separation.
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Post by: jabe on 05/04/2015 11:58 pm
I can understand why the capsule doesn't continue on a parabolic trajectory - it has parachutes, but what makes the trunk fall almost straight down like it does in the SpaceX infographic? Wouldn't it go further downrange than the capsule?

harzard  guess...less mass.. high drag so slows quicker..however... I have made "tube paper airplanes" that go forever :) http://www.instructables.com/id/Tubular-paper-airplane/ 
jb
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Post by: oiorionsbelt on 05/05/2015 02:29 am
I apparently am a minor prophet.

Compare SpaceX's infographic to the ugly one I made a while ago upon knowledge of fins trickling out:




you got the trunk entering the drink upside down.  obviously you are completely wrong
Why wouldn't the trunk turn and enter they way NovaSilisko drew it? Seems as though that would be the stable orientation.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Kabloona on 05/05/2015 02:55 am
I apparently am a minor prophet.

Compare SpaceX's infographic to the ugly one I made a while ago upon knowledge of fins trickling out:




you got the trunk entering the drink upside down.  obviously you are completely wrong
Why wouldn't the trunk turn and enter they way NovaSilisko drew it? Seems as though that would be the stable orientation.

I don't know which way the interstage will actually fall, but aft end first is possible.

The actual geometry of the fins is much different than how NovaSilisko drew them. The actual fin geometry has much less surface area, meaning much less effect on the overall center of pressure. So the fins may lower the center of gravity more than they lower the center of pressure. The center of pressure then stays forward of the center of gravity, causing the interstage to fall aft end first.

Also possible that the interstage center of gravity (even without fins) is slightly aft of midpoint.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: darkenfast on 05/05/2015 03:09 am
Not that it matters much (and we shall hopefully see shortly), but the trunk has the support beams just under the heat shield of the Dragon.  That might be just enough weight to shuttlecock the trunk as it falls.  Next OCD issue: will the airstream blow out the Kevlar/insulation layer at the front of the trunk?
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: okan170 on 05/05/2015 04:08 am
I apparently am a minor prophet.

Compare SpaceX's infographic to the ugly one I made a while ago upon knowledge of fins trickling out:

Be sure to use your newfound powers for good not evil!
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/05/2015 05:55 am
I can't believe I had zero memory of that one (too focused on Atlantis and the 1st ever F9 maybe?), but if all goes right Dragon's pad abort came exactly 5 years after Orion's Pad Abort-1 test (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=18511.0)!  :o
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: chalz on 05/05/2015 09:48 am
I can't believe I had zero memory of that one (too focused on Atlantis and the 1st ever F9 maybe?), but if all goes right Dragon's pad abort came exactly 5 years after Orion's Pad Abort-1 test (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=18511.0)!  :o

Nice reference. I had a look back at the schedule thread (http://"http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=8184.msg586356#msg586356") and at the time Orion's first flight was sketched in for December 2013 on Ares I. So if history repeats Dragon 2 could soon find its rocket getting cancelled from underneath it and replaced with a BFR due in about 2023.  ::) A pretty big if though.
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Post by: AncientU on 05/05/2015 12:14 pm
I can't believe I had zero memory of that one (too focused on Atlantis and the 1st ever F9 maybe?), but if all goes right Dragon's pad abort came exactly 5 years after Orion's Pad Abort-1 test (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=18511.0)!  :o

Nice reference. I had a look back at the schedule thread (http://"http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=8184.msg586356#msg586356") and at the time Orion's first flight was sketched in for December 2013 on Ares I. So if history repeats Dragon 2 could soon find its rocket getting cancelled from underneath it and replaced with a BFR due in about 2023.  ::) A pretty big if though.

What is telling is that Dragon will fly with crew in 2016 on the 50th or so F9.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: MattMason on 05/05/2015 01:53 pm
Also the original version which I deemed unlikely since there's no point in having chutes on the trunk.

I guess the reality is in between my two images. In the first one, the thrusters are burning for a very short period after the trunk separates, to give a bit more relative velocity. In this one, drag handles it, but it has chutes.

So the solution is more parachutes?

The idea of parachutes on the trunk would make sense if we're also trying to salvage whatever cargo is stored there on an ill-fated flight.

That brings up another question: What's the maximum trunk payload that can be stored while still allowing a full abort distance with up to seven crew and some cargo?
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: jabe on 05/05/2015 02:18 pm

That brings up another question: What's the maximum trunk payload that can be stored while still allowing a full abort distance with up to seven crew and some cargo?
I think Mass is Mass..regardless where it is.. so location won't matter. well my 2cents...
jb
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Jdeshetler on 05/05/2015 02:26 pm
I would love to hear what the actual decibel level is inside this bare Dragon with those 8 SD going off at once but I doubt they will release this info anyway.


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Post by: kevin-rf on 05/05/2015 02:28 pm
It's an Eleven, This is Elon Tap after all ;)
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Post by: deruch on 05/05/2015 02:46 pm
Party Foul!  Real questions and discussion belongs in the discussion thread. 
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Post by: kevin-rf on 05/05/2015 02:55 pm
How so, the party thread has a better SNR than all other SpaceX threads combined!
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 05/05/2015 03:07 pm
How so, the party thread has a better SNR than all other SpaceX threads combined!

Sampling error.  If you're counting both "on point" comments and "party" comments as signal, what's the noise?   :)
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: Joffan on 05/05/2015 03:34 pm
If you're counting both "on point" comments and "party" comments as signal, what's the noise?   :)

Who wants signal? We love noise. SuperDraco-induced, window-rattling, bone-shuddering, hair-raising, supersonic crackling noise.
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: e of pi on 05/05/2015 03:35 pm
Sampling error.  If you're counting both "on point" comments and "party" comments as signal, what's the noise?   :)
Got the noise right here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csVpa25iqH0&t=16m0s) :D
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: TripD on 05/05/2015 04:00 pm
Come on, feel the noise!   SpaceX launching toys!    We'll get wild!  wild! wild!
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 05/05/2015 05:37 pm
SpaceX just posted a screencap from their Pad Abort simulation runs!
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Post by: sanman on 05/05/2015 05:55 pm
The Kerbal Space Program version looks better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2n3dTVkiTo
Title: Re: The SpaceX Dragon 2 Pad Abort - Might as well Jump - Party Thread
Post by: deruch on 05/05/2015 06:14 pm
The Kerbal Space Program version looks better:

I also like the two in this video even though they are lower fidelity:
https://youtu.be/qxu7LZVpaVQ
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Post by: Tonioroffo on 05/05/2015 06:34 pm
Check out @elonmusk's Tweet: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/595656079490600960?s=09
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Post by: DatUser14 on 05/05/2015 06:39 pm
The Kerbal Space Program version looks better:

[youtube]R2n3dTVkiTo[/youtube]
have you seen mine?, page 1.
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Post by: deruch on 05/05/2015 06:44 pm
The Kerbal Space Program version looks better:
have you seen mine?, page 1.

"This video has been removed by the user."
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Post by: DatUser14 on 05/05/2015 06:47 pm
The Kerbal Space Program version looks better:
have you seen mine?, page 1.

"This video has been removed by the user."
ah, i edited it and forgot to link it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5HAP_hWHJo
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Post by: nlec on 05/05/2015 07:58 pm
Check out @elonmusk's Tweet: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/595656079490600960?s=09

So we now have a FIRE BREATHING Dragon!
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Post by: Doesitfloat on 05/05/2015 08:32 pm
Sweet,  rocket powered octocopter.
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Post by: Kabloona on 05/05/2015 08:52 pm
I think SpaceX should name their test dummy "Rocky" because...he's Gonna Fly Now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioE_O7Lm0I4
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Post by: Sohl on 05/05/2015 08:55 pm
After zoom and enhance, I think I might see padrat ...
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Post by: Joffan on 05/05/2015 09:04 pm
After zoom and enhance, I think I might see padrat ...

so that was the hold-down mechanism for static fire...
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Post by: the_other_Doug on 05/05/2015 09:52 pm
After zoom and enhance, I think I might see padrat ...

so that was the hold-down mechanism for static fire...

No -- see, that's the guy who has the job of lighting the fuses.  To change the paradigm of launch system costs, SpaceX saves a ton of money by removing the electronic ignition command systems -- hence, they always have guys under their rockets, lighting the fuses and then running like hell.

I hear there's a pretty high turnover rate...
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Post by: kch on 05/05/2015 10:00 pm
Sweet,  rocket powered octocopter.

"Roctocopter"?  :)
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Post by: JazzFan on 05/05/2015 10:13 pm
That better be a flame retardant suite or else, party over!
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Post by: deruch on 05/05/2015 10:30 pm
That better be a flame retardant suite or else, party over!
Test was done outside.  :P
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Post by: NovaSilisko on 05/05/2015 10:32 pm
I hear there's a pretty high turnover rate...

Indeed, several hundred RPMs, as they hurtle down the flame trench.
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Post by: deruch on 05/05/2015 10:37 pm
Reddit user /u/FrameRate24 designed a fan-made mission patch for this test as no official one has yet been released (post (https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/34yote/rspacex_dragon_2_pad_abort_live_discussion/cqzcxwj)).  I thought NSFers would enjoy as well.
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Post by: kevin-rf on 05/05/2015 11:46 pm
That better be a flame retardant suite or else, party over!
Didn't SpaceX recently get in trouble for not providing propper PPE? So I'm sure crispy padrat is fine ;)

I think with further enhancement I can see padrat holding a stick with smores on it.
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Post by: Sohl on 05/06/2015 12:17 am
So I'm sure crispy padrat is fine ;)
Yeah, padrat is a tough dude.  I heard he taught Bill Brasky how to drink and Chuck Norris how to fight.  ;)
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Post by: dodo on 05/06/2015 12:20 am
Looks just like in The Simpsons.
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Post by: wannamoonbase on 05/06/2015 03:05 am
This test has been such a long time coming that it's hard to believe that it's tomorrow.

Obviously we al hope for success.  But so many things to test in one test, all the SDs, avionics and controls, software, drogue and main chutes, new trunk. 

Maybe there is commonality to Dragin 1 on the these systems but it's still a bold big step. If it all works it shows they have a lot ready. 
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Post by: Alpha Control on 05/06/2015 03:24 am
I can't believe I had zero memory of that one (too focused on Atlantis and the 1st ever F9 maybe?), but if all goes right Dragon's pad abort came exactly 5 years after Orion's Pad Abort-1 test (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=18511.0)!  :o

Now that is a cosmic coincidence (if it holds)! Pad Abort tests, of two new American capsules, exactly 5 years apart to the day. Great catch GP!
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Post by: funkyjive on 05/06/2015 04:15 am
How do they plan on avoiding the cable net between the lightning towers?
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Post by: ClayJar on 05/06/2015 05:03 am
How do they plan on avoiding the cable net between the lightning towers?
I believe their plan to avoid the lightning protection wires is simply to not reinstall the wires they took down for the pad abort test until after the pad abort test, but that's just speculation on my part.  ;D

For photos and serious discussion, here you go:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=33423.msg1369744#msg1369744
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Post by: padrat on 05/06/2015 10:13 am
After zoom and enhance, I think I might see padrat ...


Shhhh......you weren't supposed to see that. Pay no attention to that man behind the smoke......



On a side note, I really need to check out Kerbal Space Program. Looks fun....
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Post by: Rocket Science on 05/06/2015 10:52 am
I had this Billy Blast Off as a kid... Look familiar? ;D


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Post by: sghill on 05/06/2015 01:00 pm
Go Hot Dog! GO!!!
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Post by: Norm38 on 05/06/2015 01:00 pm
Booo yahhh!!!  That'd be a hell of a ride.
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Post by: MATTBLAK on 05/06/2015 01:05 pm
Shiver me timbers!! That was one hell of a whoosh. Well done Space X!! :)
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Post by: newpylong on 05/06/2015 01:05 pm
Beauty!
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Post by: JasonAW3 on 05/06/2015 01:07 pm
And now it's just bobbing in the surf, looking happy as a clam!

     If a space capsule could looks smug, I'd say this one definately looks quite smug!  And with good reason!
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Post by: wannamoonbase on 05/06/2015 01:07 pm
Congrats, looks like we have a spaceship!!
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Post by: JasonAW3 on 05/06/2015 01:09 pm
It's an Eleven, This is Elon Tap after all ;)

Sorry, that launch put another notch on the volume!  Let's push it to 12!
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Post by: sciencebro on 05/06/2015 01:09 pm
That was amazing! It is rare that anything (rockets, games, cars, etc.) looks anything like the initial CG renderings, but that looked uncannily similar to their DV2 announcement video. Absolutely brilliant. Great job SpaceX!
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Post by: Rocket Science on 05/06/2015 01:11 pm
From recovery team... Some guy banging on Dragon's hatch and wants out... I think its Padrat... ;D
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Post by: JazzFan on 05/06/2015 01:12 pm
I would have loved to ride on that test.  I could swim to shore when done.
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Post by: mikelepage on 05/06/2015 01:16 pm
Holy Moly! That would have been the most hard core theme park ride ever! :)
None of this ramping up nonsense... just bam!
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Post by: Aerospace Dilettante on 05/06/2015 01:20 pm
I liked the sound of this LC, she's got a nice, crisp voice.
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Post by: Ronpur50 on 05/06/2015 01:25 pm
Wow, that was over so quick, I didn't even have time to PARTY!!!
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Post by: dalek on 05/06/2015 01:29 pm
Loved that camera work. it's seldom we get to see that in such detail. Well done and haruhs to the camera teams.
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Post by: deruch on 05/06/2015 02:08 pm
Loved that camera work. it's seldom we get to see that in such detail. Well done and haruhs to the camera teams.

What exactly is a "haruh"?  Sounds like the sort of thing massive weightlifters named Biff grunt at girls walking by on the sidewalk.  :)

*hurrah
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Post by: the_other_Doug on 05/06/2015 02:10 pm
Loved that camera work. it's seldom we get to see that in such detail. Well done and haruhs to the camera teams.

What exactly is a "haruh"?  Sounds like the sort of thing massive weightlifters named Biff grunt at girls walking by on the sidewalk.  :)

*hurrah

"Hey, baby, wanna see my super dracos?"

;)
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Post by: DatUser14 on 05/06/2015 02:42 pm
Ill never get over that sound.  2...1... "Launch"...0..Liftoff...WOOOOSH!
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Post by: deruch on 05/06/2015 03:22 pm
Loved that camera work. it's seldom we get to see that in such detail. Well done and haruhs to the camera teams.

What exactly is a "haruh"?  Sounds like the sort of thing massive weightlifters named Biff grunt at girls walking by on the sidewalk.  :)

*hurrah

"Hey, baby, wanna see my super dracos?"

;)

"SuperDracos?  ::)  As if.  You're only packing GN2."  :P
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Post by: Rocket Science on 05/06/2015 03:34 pm
This song was in my head during the test... 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBVeNQ-mtcY
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Post by: ClayJar on 05/06/2015 04:57 pm
That was fun (and well worth biking in to work half an hour early to catch the webcasts).  I'm now officially awaiting the "Woo-hoo! at MaxQ" on Falcon 9/3.

(Technically, they said "max drag", but since it's close enough for a party and max drag doesn't have the same ring to it, I'll stick with the "Woo-hoo! at MaxQ".  Also, Falcon 9/3 just seems like a perfect way to designate a three-engined test vehicle, since it works either way: a Falcon 9 with three engines or a Falcon with nine-thirds engines.)
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Post by: Kabloona on 05/06/2015 05:06 pm
That was fun (and well worth biking in to work half an hour early to catch the webcasts).  I'm now officially awaiting the "Woo-hoo! at MaxQ" on Falcon 9/3.

(Technically, they said "max drag", but since it's close enough for a party and max drag doesn't have the same ring to it, I'll stick with the "Woo-hoo! at MaxQ".  Also, Falcon 9/3 just seems like a perfect way to designate a three-engined test vehicle, since it works either way: a Falcon 9 with three engines or a Falcon with nine-thirds engines.)

Hey, aren't you supposed to be out in your kayak looking for the barge?  ;)
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Post by: Cherokee43v6 on 05/06/2015 05:30 pm
Hmmm...  Maybe they should get some sponsorships for the in-flight abort... It works for the NHRA ;)  Ya know paint it up in John Force's Castrol colors  ;D  After-all 'Drag' is in the description!
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Post by: ClayJar on 05/06/2015 05:40 pm
Hey, aren't you supposed to be out in your kayak looking for the barge?  ;)
Would love to be, but Elsbeth III seems to be running silent.  (Anyone seen a ping lately?) :)
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Post by: nlec on 05/06/2015 06:45 pm
Holy Moly! That would have been the most hard core theme park ride ever! :)
None of this ramping up nonsense... just bam!
Definitely an "E ticket" ride!
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Post by: TripD on 05/06/2015 07:22 pm
Quote
"Woo-hoo! at MaxQ"

Okay..... that's my new slogan!  ;)

Quote
Definitely an "E ticket" ride!

Okay..... now you're talking like 'Old Space....... Mountain'.  :)
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Post by: corrodedNut on 05/06/2015 07:30 pm
Is it just me, or does this test remind anyone else of the opening credits to "I Dream of Jeannie"? Especially the part where Dragon is bobbing in the surf...
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Post by: Space Ghost 1962 on 05/06/2015 09:08 pm
Musk has a penchant for thinking up new Disney rides.

First, Hyperloop as a upgrade to "Space Mountain".

And now a replacement for Star Tours - "Dragon Escape from Falcon Launch".

Make sure you are strapped in.
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Post by: Prober on 05/06/2015 09:11 pm
Is it just me, or does this test remind anyone else of the opening credits to "I Dream of Jeannie"? Especially the part where Dragon is bobbing in the surf...

Whatever you do don't open that bottle ;D

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Post by: Moe Grills on 05/06/2015 09:29 pm
  So when is the mid-air Dragon V2 abort test expected to occur?
I read that the 4th quarter of this year is the penciled in timeframe for that test.
Do you think this successful pad abort test will allow that timeframe to be kept?
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Post by: M_Puckett on 05/06/2015 09:53 pm
Is it just me, or does this test remind anyone else of the opening credits to "I Dream of Jeannie"? Especially the part where Dragon is bobbing in the surf...

Whatever you do don't open that bottle ;D

On the contrary, if a 20something Barbra Eden pops out, try and stop me!
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Post by: Helodriver on 05/06/2015 10:23 pm
Is it just me, or does this test remind anyone else of the opening credits to "I Dream of Jeannie"? Especially the part where Dragon is bobbing in the surf...

Whatever you do don't open that bottle ;D

On the contrary, if a 20something Barbra Eden pops out, try and stop me!

Cue up the nifty theme song...
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Post by: sanman on 05/06/2015 10:27 pm
I wonder how "Buster" (or whatever his name is) is doing?
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Post by: Geron on 05/06/2015 10:33 pm
Does anyone else think that its a little bit strange that they had this test which was successful, then they have inflight abort this summer.

I mean, after that, why is it that two years go by before they fly crew? It seems like they would be closer to a crewed flight than that no? Is this where spacex can pad the bill a bit over the next two years and collect on paper milestones?
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Post by: Joffan on 05/06/2015 10:33 pm
He's having a party with Jeannie. Don't open the door.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuxasxSCTkI
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Post by: Kabloona on 05/06/2015 10:35 pm
I wonder how "Buster" (or whatever his name is) is doing?

I'm calling him "Rocky." (Gonna Fly Now!)

Elon says the crew would have been fine, so Rocky must be in good shape. 5-6 g's is a day at Disney.
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Post by: Space Ghost 1962 on 05/06/2015 10:36 pm
Does anyone else think that its a little bit strange that they had this test which was successful, then they have inflight abort this summer.

I mean, after that, why is it that two years go by before they fly crew? It seems like they would be closer to a crewed flight than that no? Is this where spacex can pad the bill a bit over the next two years and collect on paper milestones?

Hardly. The real hard work of flight certification still remains.

It's not like its a car, after its tested you jump in and drive it off the lot.
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Post by: Geron on 05/06/2015 10:49 pm
Wishful thinking I guess!
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Post by: dodo on 05/06/2015 11:07 pm
I'm still waiting for the comically fast set of stairs.
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Post by: Rocket Science on 05/07/2015 12:49 am
Since Dragon's splashdown was so close to shore, Padrat told the recovery team "I'll just swim back"... ;D
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Post by: 411rocket on 05/07/2015 01:13 am
Since Dragon's splashdown was so close to shore, Padrat told the recovery team "I'll just swim back"... ;D

Swim or body surf, depending on preference.........
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Post by: llanitedave on 05/07/2015 04:34 am
The test happened so that SpaceX can certify the Dragon 2 for carrying astronauts.  You're free to assign subtexts, I guess.
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Post by: QuantumG on 05/07/2015 04:41 am
Let me understand...This test happened so that we could prove in one demonstration that astronauts can safely escape a launch pad and while saving taxpayer money by not having to pay for flights to the ISS via Soyuz.

Kinda the wrong thread to have a serious discussion.. so here's a story.

Neil is adrift.. in fact, he's a drifter. One day, after thanking the driver for taking him as far as the next town he decides it might be time to give up hitchhiking. Thing is, Neil can't really afford a new car. Suddenly, he's overwhelmed with painful memories of his old life - he had a car then, in fact he had four! Two of them were involved in preventable accidents, he lost some good friends and just couldn't stand to drive any more. Still, he reasons, this time it would be different. He'd buy one of those really safe cars - even safer than the old clunkers he's seen so much on the roads... so many years, so many rides. Maybe he'll get one of those new electric cars from that guy - what's his name? Doesn't matter - the point is, it'll be safe. Secure. He can stop drifting.


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Post by: sanman on 05/07/2015 04:50 am
Gee, that's kind of sad. Maybe Neil should join a therapy group, or something - before this thread title gives him any bad ideas.
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Post by: Wonger on 05/07/2015 08:37 am
Could've sworn I saw this gigantic device under the truss structure...
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Post by: Jamsta on 05/07/2015 08:42 am
Could've sworn I saw this gigantic device under the truss structure...

Hypergolic party poppers: fun for all the family.
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Post by: joshcryer on 05/07/2015 10:42 am
That was absolutely stunning. Congrats SpaceX!
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Post by: deruch on 05/07/2015 01:46 pm
I'm still trying to figure out (since I'm a blonde) why the astronauts really need a spaceship to get to the beach from KSC.

1.  According to your user name, you're actually a blond (no e). 
2.  "Need" is really too strong of a word.  They don't need a spaceship to get to the beach.  But if you happen to have one sitting around, why not use it?
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Post by: corrodedNut on 05/07/2015 03:00 pm
I can't believe that no one noticed the obvious major malfunction during the test.

When the nosecone separated from the body tube, the long rubber shock cord failed to deploy!
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Post by: Joffan on 05/07/2015 03:56 pm
Well, it's been a great party, and we even got to go to the beach.

Thanks for coming, and pick up your crap on the way out - hey Nellie, pack up your trunk as you go...
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Post by: deruch on 05/07/2015 06:29 pm
Recommendation for in-flight abort test party thread title:  This is just a development party!
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Post by: mme on 05/07/2015 06:41 pm
Recommendation for in-flight abort test party thread title:  This is just a development party!
I like "Hasta la vista, booster." :)
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Post by: TripD on 05/09/2015 03:57 pm
Your in flight exits are at the front of the rocket.
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Post by: darkenfast on 05/10/2015 04:05 am
The Max Headroom Party Thread!
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Post by: Fletch on 05/11/2015 02:23 am
Recommendation for in-flight abort test party thread title: It's not you, it's me; we must go our separate ways.
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Post by: Elvis in Space on 05/26/2015 01:31 am
I think you're close but the issue of parting between lovers was versed very well long ago.

Juliet:
'Tis almost morning, I would have thee gone—
And yet no farther than a wan-ton's bird,
That lets it hop a little from his hand,
Like a poor prisoner in his twisted gyves,
And with a silken thread plucks it back again,
So loving-jealous of his liberty.

Romeo:
I would I were thy bird.

Juliet:
Sweet, so would I,
Yet I should kill thee with much cherishing.
Good night, good night! Parting is such sweet sorrow,
That I shall say good night till it be morrow.
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Post by: 411rocket on 05/26/2015 02:38 am
I got stuck, with this STUNTED & WIMPY 3 engine Rocket, I'm out of here......