MATTBLAK - 4/8/2006 1:54 AM
Incidentally, I've rooted all along for Lockheed-Martin to win the CEV contract!! ;)
Chris Bergin - 4/8/2006 7:26 AM
Nice one Steve...we've got a LOT of LM people here, so I'm sure they wish you well, as do I.
James (Lockheed) - 4/8/2006 5:33 AMQuoteMATTBLAK - 4/8/2006 1:54 AM
Incidentally, I've rooted all along for Lockheed-Martin to win the CEV contract!! ;)
Not going to happen.
Lockheed will get the Upper stage.
Propforce - 4/8/2006 3:42 PMQuoteJames (Lockheed) - 4/8/2006 5:33 AMQuoteMATTBLAK - 4/8/2006 1:54 AM
Incidentally, I've rooted all along for Lockheed-Martin to win the CEV contract!! ;)
Not going to happen.
Lockheed will get the Upper stage.
What is the basis of your prediction?
Generic Username - 4/8/2006 11:56 PMQuotePropforce - 4/8/2006 3:42 PMQuoteJames (Lockheed) - 4/8/2006 5:33 AMQuoteMATTBLAK - 4/8/2006 1:54 AM
Incidentally, I've rooted all along for Lockheed-Martin to win the CEV contract!! ;)
Not going to happen.
Lockheed will get the Upper stage.
What is the basis of your prediction?
Lockheed is more or less the obvious choice for the second stage, having Michoud and all. If they get the second stage, politics will virtually dictate that some else gets the CEV.
What would be nice is if Lockheed would sic the Skunk Works on the second stage. Not only get the weight down, but make it recoverable... do like SASSTO and work on making it into a complete launch vehicle in it's own right.... drooooollll.........
vt_hokie - 5/8/2006 12:48 AM
Lockheed has a long list of launch vehicle concepts and spacecraft concepts that it has produced over the years, and I'd love to see what it could make into reality if given more leeway than NASA is giving with the CEV program.
Jim - 5/8/2006 10:08 AM
CEV is not for LEO. It is to go to the moon and Mars. Air breathing engines won't help there.
Generic Username - 4/8/2006 8:56 PM
What would be nice is if Lockheed would sic the Skunk Works on the second stage. Not only get the weight down, but make it recoverable... do like SASSTO and work on making it into a complete launch vehicle in it's own right.... drooooollll.........
Inthemix - 6/8/2006 10:33 PM
*grumble, grumble*
Two years now and Denver's only nibbled at the bait at the end of my line. Been nearly a month since I applied for the latest position with no contact. I'm hoping that they're just too busy to answer emails.
Propforce - 8/8/2006 1:49 AM
Denver? Listen buddy, if you're interested in a CEV job you'll need to apply to Houston. It doesn't matter WHO wins the CEV contract (LM or NG/BA), most of the CEV jobs will be in Houston.
Propforce - 6/8/2006 5:53 PMQuoteGeneric Username - 4/8/2006 8:56 PM
What would be nice is if Lockheed would sic the Skunk Works on the second stage. Not only get the weight down, but make it recoverable... do like SASSTO and work on making it into a complete launch vehicle in it's own right.... drooooollll.........
Skunk Works people don't know much about how to design a launch vehicle, just look at the X-33.
You'll need the Denver people to do the job.
Propforce - 7/8/2006 10:49 PM
Denver? Listen buddy, if you're interested in a CEV job you'll need to apply to Houston. It doesn't matter WHO wins the CEV contract (LM or NG/BA), most of the CEV jobs will be in Houston.
Inthemix - 8/8/2006 11:09 PM
Okay, as of 8/8/2006 10:59PM Pacific, Lockheed's CEV job openings are:
Any Job, CEV keyword, & Texas @ 144
Any Job, CEV keyword, & Colorado @ 172
Total: CEV keyword alone @ 331 (some LA and FL jobs make the remainder)
That didn't quite turn out the way I thought, or how you'd suggested. Maybe they're finding it easier to fill the TX jobs? Maybe has more skilled unemployed?
I see a lot of the TX jobs are with the Space Operations company and offer no relocation allowance. The Space Systems Company are offering negotiable relocation. So, that doesn't quite make sense to me. Personally, I'd prefer Denver over Houston, but maybe I'm in the minority. Guess its just who and where you want to work for.
Propforce - 9/8/2006 10:26 AM
This is a snap shot in time with the current open requisitions. I'd suspect all req's have a "contingent upon contract award..." blah blah, etc. as well. The 'rumor' I've heard is there will be approx. 1,000 openings for CEV in Houston, which mostly will be Program/ Project management, systems engineering,... etc. Many will transfer from existing shuttle support contract to CEV, or move from one contractor to the CEV winning contractor (LM, NG, etc.), but if you can get in early maybe you'll get to pick your job. ;)
Inthemix - 9/8/2006 2:09 AM
I see a lot of the TX jobs are with the Space Operations company and offer no relocation allowance. The Space Systems Company are offering negotiable relocation.
Jim - 10/8/2006 3:54 AM One would have to quit USA to be a member of LM or NG CEV team
Actually, it is technically a transfer between USA and either Boeing or Lockheed. I know a girl from here who just moved from USA out to Boeing in California and she said it was handled as a transfer and she got to keep her seniority, vacation, vesting, everything. In fact most of the USA folks around here now are talking about looking into moving to mother Lockheed to get the %&^%^$*%$ out of Houston. They seem to be very excited! In fact, I think I may be seriously looking that way as well.
spacedreams - 31/8/2006 5:28 PM'QuoteJim - 10/8/2006 3:54 AM One would have to quit USA to be a member of LM or NG CEV team
Actually, it is technically a transfer between USA and either Boeing or Lockheed. I know a girl from here who just moved from USA out to Boeing in California and she said it was handled as a transfer and she got to keep her seniority, vacation, vesting, everything. In fact most of the USA folks around here now are talking about looking into moving to mother Lockheed to get the %&^%^$*%$ out of Houston. They seem to be very excited! In fact, I think I may be seriously looking that way as well.