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Title: CEV named?
Post by: rsp1202 on 07/21/2006 02:18 am
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-072006a.html

Any confirmation?
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: hyper_snyper on 07/21/2006 02:28 am
Project Orion?  That's interesting.  What happened to Constellation?
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: collectSPACE on 07/21/2006 03:44 am
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hyper_snyper - 20/7/2006  9:15 PM

Project Orion?  That's interesting.  What happened to Constellation?

To the best of my understanding, Constellation remains the over-arching program that encompasses Orion, Ares, etc.
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: nacnud on 07/21/2006 04:19 am
Strange, I would have thought that the name was too strongly attached to the pulsed nuke project. Still I like it.
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: simonbp on 07/22/2006 06:52 am
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nacnud - 20/7/2006  9:06 PM

Strange, I would have thought that the name was too strongly attached to the pulsed nuke project. Still I like it.

Only within the space-nerd community; for public consumption, it's pretty good...

Simon ;)
Title: RE: CEV named?
Post by: astrobrian on 07/22/2006 01:45 pm
When they announced ARES they had the project insignia that went with it. Does anyone have the ORION one?
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: punkboi on 07/22/2006 04:28 pm
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simonbp - 21/7/2006  11:39 PM

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nacnud - 20/7/2006  9:06 PM

Strange, I would have thought that the name was too strongly attached to the pulsed nuke project. Still I like it.

Only within the space-nerd community; for public consumption, it's pretty good...

Simon ;)

What Simon said  :)

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astrobrian - 22/7/2006  6:32 AM

When they announced ARES they had the project insignia that went with it. Does anyone have the ORION one?

Orion wasn't officially announced by NASA yet...so the insignia is still probably under wraps
Title: RE: CEV named?
Post by: collectSPACE on 08/11/2006 02:57 pm
NASA's new moon project gets a logo

http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-081006b.html
Title: RE: CEV named?
Post by: Jon_Jones on 08/11/2006 05:40 pm
Thanks for the Nifty update!!!!!
:)
:)

Now, I just hope it still gets a chance to fly...... :(
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: mlorrey on 08/11/2006 06:41 pm
The benefit for NASA of coopting both the Ares and Orion names is that this will help obliterate in Google and other search engines any high ranking references to the original Ares and Orion projects, which both embarassed the performance of NASA in their own respective ways. A real MiniTru operation.
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: Jim on 08/11/2006 06:58 pm
Another conspiracy?  Orion wasn't NASA's and  the other Ares isn't a "real" (approved/confirmed) mission
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: mlorrey on 08/11/2006 07:20 pm
Orion was a government proposal that puts NASA throw-weights to shame, Ares was a cheap shuttle replacement HLV proposal from way back that is much cheaper than VSE. I am sure NASA gets a few tons of mail a year asking when it's gonna pull its head out and build either or of these projects.
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: Jim on 08/11/2006 07:26 pm
Orion used nukes.  This is the other current ARES, Aerial Regional-scale Environmental Survey
Title: RE: CEV named?
Post by: Jon_Jones on 08/11/2006 07:34 pm
is there any chance of the orion CEVgrowing to 5.5 meters in diameter any time soon, or is that volume simply not needed and leading to unwarented cost?
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: publiusr on 08/18/2006 08:06 pm
Jim doesn't seem to think so--but a Stumpy or DSD option would allow for a larger CEV--or even Big Gemini.
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: jacqmans on 08/22/2006 09:20 pm
Astronaut reveals name of new moonship

http://collectspace.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000310.html

(Quote) "Williams let it slip Tuesday that the new vehicle's name is Orion.

"We've been calling it the crew exploration vehicle for several years, but today it has a name... Orion," Williams said, taping a message in advance for the space agency that was transmitted accidentally over space-to-ground radio".


Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: hyper_snyper on 08/22/2006 09:29 pm
Any date yet on the annoucement?  Is it really next week?
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: jacqmans on 08/22/2006 09:30 pm
31  august....
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: Jason on 08/23/2006 12:23 am
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/exploration/mmb/orion_announcement.html
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: astrobrian on 08/23/2006 12:40 am
I thought I had heard the orion name a few weeks ago. How is this something new? Or was it just never official til now :)
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: nacnud on 08/23/2006 03:14 pm
The BBC has an article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/5277736.stm) on this, aparantly the name Orion was to be kept a secret untill the CEV award on the 31st but the name got out after an astronaut on the ISS was prerecording an announcement that was then acidentaly broadcast.
Title: RE: CEV named?
Post by: Shorty Powers on 08/24/2006 01:42 am
Okay, I give up.

What ever became of "Altair" and "Artemis?"  I don't think NASA has announced any usage of those names, have they?

Is Orion JUST the modern-day equivalent of the CSM, or does it cover the lander, too?

Ares I and Ares V are easy-enough to understand.
Title: Re: CEV named?
Post by: Jim on 08/24/2006 02:04 am
Orion is for the CEV
Title: RE: CEV named?
Post by: Linden on 09/02/2006 06:46 pm
When viewed head-on the LM CEV with its round solar arrays is strikingly reminiscent of the three stars in Orion's belt. So one has to wonder which came first, the name or the round solar panels.

Did a LM employee say "Hey! They're going to call it Orion. Quick, put big round solar arrays on it and we're sure to lock up the contract!"?

Or did a NASA official say "Well it's looking like that mouse-eared LM proposal is going to win. Orion would sure be a cool name for it."?

Linden
Title: RE: CEV named?
Post by: hyper_snyper on 09/02/2006 07:14 pm
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Linden - 2/9/2006  2:33 PM

When viewed head-on the LM CEV with its round solar arrays is strikingly reminiscent of the three stars in Orion's belt. So one has to wonder which came first, the name or the round solar panels.

Did a LM employee say "Hey! They're going to call it Orion. Quick, put big round solar arrays on it and we're sure to lock up the contract!"?

Or did a NASA official say "Well it's looking like that mouse-eared LM proposal is going to win. Orion would sure be a cool name for it."?

Linden

Neither.  Skip Hatfield explained the reason for the round solar arrays at the press conference.  Naming has nothing to do with design, especially with NASA.  It's just a coincidence I would imagine.
Title: RE: CEV named?
Post by: Linden on 09/02/2006 07:16 pm
I knew I should have said I was just kidding in my first post.

Linden