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Title: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: vapour_nudge on 02/26/2014 02:15 pm
Live thread for the Atlas V NROL-33 launch.

Article:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/05/ula-atlas-v-nrol-33-launch/

Does anyone know the tail number (AV-0xx) of the Atlas/Centaur vehicle used in this NRO launch?

Kind regards,
The Nudge
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: vapour_nudge on 04/10/2014 09:44 am
The ULA mission patch
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Star One on 04/10/2014 12:33 pm

The ULA mission patch

It's Phoenix from the X Men.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Lurker Steve on 04/10/2014 12:53 pm

The ULA mission patch

It's Phoenix from the X Men.

I don't think Phoenix carried a sword.

but it does appear she is right above North America providing some sort of protection.

Someone with better knowledge of mythology than me will need to tell us which war goddess this is.

Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: vapour_nudge on 04/10/2014 11:28 pm
The NROL-33 launch date is no longer May 7th as the ULA press release from NROL-67 launch states the next ULA launch is a Delta IV on May 15th
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: William Graham on 04/11/2014 10:34 pm
Found this patch on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATLAS-V-AV-046-SPACE-MISSION-PATCH-USAF-CAPE-SLC-41/121316761015
http://www.webcitation.org/6OlSeSzVI

I'm not 100% sure that AV-046 is NROL-33, but this is the sort of launch patch I'd expect for an NRO mission. "Defendi nostrae opes" translates as "to defend our resources". Note the eight stars on the sides of the patch - these have appeared in the same pattern on several past NRO patches all of which were associated with Quasar communications satellites.

It is interesting to see Europe prominently featured on the patch. It could suggest a geostationary satellite positioned over this part of the world, however if this were a Quasar I would expect it to go to a Molniya orbit since both of the GEO satellites were recently replaced. Unless they are increasing the number of geostationary satellites in the constellation.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Star One on 04/11/2014 10:44 pm

Found this patch on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATLAS-V-AV-046-SPACE-MISSION-PATCH-USAF-CAPE-SLC-41/121316761015
http://www.webcitation.org/6OlSeSzVI

I'm not 100% sure that AV-046 is NROL-33, but this is the sort of launch patch I'd expect for an NRO mission. "Defendi nostrae opes" translates as "to defend our resources". Note the eight stars on the sides of the patch - these have appeared in the same pattern on several past NRO patches all of which were associated with Quasar communications satellites.

It is interesting to see Europe prominently featured on the patch. It could suggest a geostationary satellite positioned over this part of the world, however if this were a Quasar I would expect it to go to a Molniya orbit since both of the GEO satellites were recently replaced. Unless they are increasing the number of geostationary satellites in the constellation.

It wouldn't surprise me if they weren't increasing the number, the communication requirements must be huge considering the amount of data that is probably generated by these systems. The bottleneck in data networks is usually communications capacity & I don't see why this should be any different.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Jim on 04/11/2014 11:02 pm
Found this patch on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATLAS-V-AV-046-SPACE-MISSION-PATCH-USAF-CAPE-SLC-41/121316761015
http://www.webcitation.org/6OlSeSzVI

I'm not 100% sure that AV-046 is NROL-33,

It is.  Launch vehicle patches barely keep up with the launch rhythm.  The next Delta IV is not out yet.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: averagespacejoe on 04/20/2014 04:59 am
Any word yet on when this launch might happen I would imagine scheduling on the Cape between Orbcomm and NROL-33 will be settled soon if both are shooting for May launch.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: averagespacejoe on 04/21/2014 03:08 pm
You know spaceflightnow reports a date of May 22 so I will go with that for now sure Orbcomm will be within a week after that
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/09/2014 01:22 pm
Clearer versions of the patches above that I could find on the web. Interesting.....  ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/09/2014 01:52 pm
Is that a flying squirrel?
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Targeteer on 05/09/2014 02:21 pm
Clearer versions of the patches above that I could find on the web. Interesting.....  ;)

Love the red-headed warrior :) Symbolism with the mirror image wolves is intriguing with two facing right/east and 1 facing left/west.  The shape on the chest/shoulder of the wolves seems significant but I can't make it out.  The five beams seem to be from above--maybe HEO..
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Star One on 05/09/2014 05:07 pm

Is that a flying squirrel?

Yes it is.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/09/2014 07:00 pm
Anyone spot Bullwinkle or Boris then?
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Jim on 05/09/2014 07:03 pm
Anyone spot Bullwinkle or Boris then?

Left and right engine nozzle?
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: jacqmans on 05/18/2014 04:13 am
Atlas V to Launch NROL-33

Rocket/Payload:  An Atlas V 401 will launch the NROL-33 mission for the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO).

Date/Site/Launch Time: Thursday, May 22, from Space Launch Complex (SLC) 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Fla.

Launch Notes: NROL-33 will be the 46th Atlas V mission since the vehicle’s inaugural launch in 2002. It will be the sixth of 15 planned missions ULA is slated to launch in 2014, and ULA’s 83rd since the company formed in 2006.

Mission Description: The mission will be launched for the National Reconnaissance Office in support of national defense.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Ben the Space Brit on 05/18/2014 12:57 pm
Mission Description: The mission will be launched for the National Reconnaissance Office in support of national defense.

I don't think it can get any clearer than this. This is when we find out whether there was anything but hot air in the Russian government's statements over the past week.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Star One on 05/18/2014 03:58 pm

Mission Description: The mission will be launched for the National Reconnaissance Office in support of national defense.

I don't think it can get any clearer than this. This is when we find out whether there was anything but hot air in the Russian government's statements over the past week.

How would this effect a payload like WorldView 3, launching on an Atlas, yes it's a commercial payload but it has both military & commercial customers?
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Jim on 05/18/2014 08:23 pm

How would this effect a payload like WorldView 3, launching on an Atlas, yes it's a commercial payload but it has both military & commercial customers?

No effect because the ban does not include NRO or USAF payloads.  "Military applications" mean weapons
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: sdsds on 05/18/2014 08:52 pm
I think at issue here is Russia's ability to confirm the precise nature of every payload under the fairing. I'm not suggesting a relatively benign NRO payload would be used as a cover for something darker, but similar things have happened in the past.

To use just one example as an attempt to explore the issues, what if an Atlas V payload included a powerful transmitter capable of "jamming" the communications signals of opponents? What if the transmitter were strong enough to permanently damage the comm equipment of the opponent? Would that payload -- which might sit hidden for years on an otherwise strictly reconnaissance platform -- be a weapon?
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: watermod on 05/18/2014 11:49 pm
This think-tank that specializes in Russia and ex-USSR is being hammered up and down by hackers but has an article about what the Russians are saying, doing and claiming about this whole space mess that covers more space issues than we have seen addressed in NSF:
US Restrictions Hurt Russian Space Defense and Commercial Projects
Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 11 Issue: 91, May 15, 2014 By: Pavel Felgenhauer

http://www.jamestown.org/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=42363&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=7&cHash=aa4e9fe87ccb03e5d58e0cb517edb4cb#.U3lC83Wx3UZ (http://www.jamestown.org/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=42363&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=7&cHash=aa4e9fe87ccb03e5d58e0cb517edb4cb#.U3lC83Wx3UZ)

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Before the Ukrainian crisis, during the heyday of President’s Barack Obama’s “reset” charm offensive, Washington was apparently turning a blind eye to aggressive Russian procurement of high-tech, double-use equipment and technologies. Today a US move to deny high-tech export licenses threatens to set back the entire Russian military modernization project, which is based primarily on using space-connected technologies to develop new precision weapons, intelligence-gathering, communications, and command and control capabilities. In response Rogozin went ballistic, threatening to terminate US-Russian space cooperation programs: to stop selling RD-180 and NK-33 rocket engines “if they are used to launch US military satellites,” to close down GPS correction (Global Navigation Satellite System—GNSS) stations on Russian soil, and sink prematurely in the ocean the International Space Station (ISS) by 2020 (http://www.rg.ru/2014/05/13/bumerang-site.htm).

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Russia has previously tentatively agreed to continue to jointly run the ISS until 2024, but now Rogozin insists this is senseless and the space station must be terminated by 2020. He suggested that the money saved be diverted to more ambitious programs, like creating a permanent Russian base on the Moon to mine and claim it as Russian territory by 2030, before other nations form a substantial presence there (http://izvestia.ru/news/570482)

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This week in Sochi, President Vladimir Putin announced: “We must ensure that everything our defense industry needs and uses is produced on our territory and we do not depend on anyone” (http://www.kremlin.ru/news/21021). Russian experts consider Putin’s call for complete scientific and technological self-sufficiency to be an impossible task (http://top.rbc.ru/politics/14/05/2014/923813.shtml). Russia’s Trade and Industry Minister Denis Manturov told journalists that he was surprised by calls to undermine the work of GPS-connected equipment in Russia. He did not see any sense in such obstruction and wondered if “Rogozin was just promoting his personal opinion” (http://www.interfax.ru/print.asp?sec=1448&id=376041). Manturov was immediately rebuked: A government spokesperson confirmed all announced anti-American moves were officially approved, while Rogozin demanded Manturov “end being part of the fifth column” (http://www.interfax.ru/russia/376039). Rogozin’s anti-American sanctions may hinder Russia more than the US, but they follow Putin’s general line to isolate Russia from the West as much as possible.

Lots more meat in the article including discussion of the RD-180s and the Geo-IK-2 issue that upset Rogozin and set this whole escalation off.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Ben the Space Brit on 05/19/2014 08:33 am

How would this effect a payload like WorldView 3, launching on an Atlas, yes it's a commercial payload but it has both military & commercial customers?

No effect because the ban does not include NRO or USAF payloads.  "Military applications" mean weapons

Is that the gist of any agreement between the US and Russia or is that your own opinion?
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Liss on 05/19/2014 10:16 am
Interesting enough, launch restricted zones for the launch has not been announced yet but the Centaur deorbit zone is here:

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!CARF 05/146 ZAK AIRSPACE DCC ER OP#8733 ATLAS-V RE-ENTRY STATIONARY ALTITUDE RESERVATION WITHIN AREA DEFINED AS 1830N17636W TO 1348N16136W TO 0712N16342W TO 1148N17836W TO POINT OF ORIGIN SFC-UNL 1405222206-1405222310
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/19/2014 10:21 am
Interesting enough, launch restricted zones for the launch has not been announced yet but the Centaur deorbit zone is here:

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!CARF 05/146 ZAK AIRSPACE DCC ER OP#8733 ATLAS-V RE-ENTRY STATIONARY ALTITUDE RESERVATION WITHIN AREA DEFINED AS 1830N17636W TO 1348N16136W TO 0712N16342W TO 1148N17836W TO POINT OF ORIGIN SFC-UNL 1405222206-1405222310

This NOTAM for the de-orbiting of the Centaur is at about 10 hours (!) after the opening of the launch window - near Kwajalein in the middle of the Pacific of all places; and the shape of the area seems to hint at this being a low-inclination launch. Hmm.......  ::)
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/19/2014 12:07 pm
Does that imply the Centuar will be doing an apogee de-orbit burn for an HEO GTO type orbit.

So a restart 5 hours into the launch?  Impressive.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/19/2014 02:07 pm
Does that imply the Centuar will be doing an apogee de-orbit burn for an HEO GTO type orbit.

So a restart 5 hours into the launch?  Impressive.

Yes, apparently during the launch of NROL-38 a similar procedure was done (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=28559.msg918004#msg918004) in the same area of the Pacific Ocean (except that the de-orbit area stretches northwest-southeast that time, while this time it is from southwest-northeast).
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: input~2 on 05/19/2014 04:06 pm
Below is the related navigational warning:
Launch window: around 1305 - 1437 UTC on May 22 (alternate 1303-1435 UTC on May 23)
Looks like it's aiming at GEO

WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
ROCKETS.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS 221305Z TO 221437Z MAY,
ALTERNATE 231303Z TO 231435Z MAY
IN AREAS BOUND BY:
A. 28-36N 080-35W, 28-36N 080-26W,
28-33N 079-57W, 28-30N 079-57W,
28-33N 080-33W, 28-34N 080-35W.
B. 24-41N 058-50W, 24-16N 057-10W,
24-10N 057-11W, 24-36N 058-52W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 231535Z MAY 14.//

Authority: EASTERN RANGE OP A8733 LAUNCH 131746Z MAY 14

Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/19/2014 04:15 pm
With this satellite looking more like heading to geosynchronous, I wonder if the Molniya orbit SDS satellites are going to be replaced by a newer generation of satellites? Come to think about it, NROL-35 is launching this December from Vandenberg on a heavier rocket (Atlas V 531) - maybe that will replace one of the older Molniya orbit satellites? It's not like that the Molniya orbit satellites are THAT old (USA-179 was launched in August 2004 on the last Atlas II and USA-198 was launched on Atlas V in December 2007).....
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: input~2 on 05/19/2014 06:55 pm
Quote from:  45th Space Wing facebook page
Are you ready for another launch from the Eastern Range? The #AtlasV (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/atlasv) is scheduled to launch May 22. The launch window is 8:45-10:15 a.m. Hope to see you right here on Thursday. We will provide live updates hours before the launch.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/19/2014 06:59 pm
With this satellite looking more like heading to geosynchronous, I wonder if the Molniya orbit SDS satellites are going to be replaced by a newer generation of satellites? Come to think about it, NROL-35 is launching this December from Vandenberg on a heavier rocket (Atlas V 531) - maybe that will replace one of the older Molniya orbit satellites? It's not like that the Molniya orbit satellites are THAT old (USA-179 was launched in August 2004 on the last Atlas II and USA-198 was launched on Atlas V in December 2007).....

Maybe after the Reset button was pressed, the Molniya SDS's where no longer needed ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/19/2014 10:55 pm
ULA:

Everything is moving forward for the National Reconnaissance Office (NROL-33) launch this Thursday. The mission is set to lift off on a ULA Atlas V rocket on Thursday, May 22 from Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida at 9:05 a.m. EDT. Today’s forecast shows an 80 percent chance of favorable weather conditions for launch.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/20/2014 02:10 pm
Atlas V spotted rolling to the pad.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: chewi on 05/20/2014 02:15 pm
Atlas V spotted rolling to the pad.
now live here: http://www.livestream.com/spaceflightnow

Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Liss on 05/20/2014 03:19 pm
Back-up Centaur deorbit zone for May 23:

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!CARF 05/164 (KZAK A1823/14) ZAK AIRSPACE DCC ER OP#8733 ATLAS-V STATIONARY ALTITUDE RESERVATION WITHIN AN AREA DEFINED AS 1830N17636W TO 1348N16136W TO 0712N16342W TO 1148N17836W TO POINT OF ORIGIN SFC-UNL 1405232204-1405232308
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: chewi on 05/20/2014 05:55 pm
Some photos:
http://www.ulalaunch.com/file-library.aspx?launchEventID=212
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Targeteer on 05/21/2014 12:59 pm
Launch hazard area--looks like its headed to GEO
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/21/2014 01:05 pm
ULA:

The Atlas V rocket rolled out to the launch pad this morning in advance of the National Reconnaissance Office (NROL-33) launch this Thursday. The mission is set to lift off on a ULA Atlas V rocket on Thursday, May 22 from Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida at 9:05 a.m. EDT. Today’s forecast continues to show an 80 percent chance of favorable weather conditions for launch. I have attached the mission artwork.

(That's awesome!)
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: chewi on 05/21/2014 01:10 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/zrlvqTR.png)
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Blackstar on 05/21/2014 05:43 pm
With this satellite looking more like heading to geosynchronous, I wonder if the Molniya orbit SDS satellites are going to be replaced by a newer generation of satellites? Come to think about it, NROL-35 is launching this December from Vandenberg on a heavier rocket (Atlas V 531) - maybe that will replace one of the older Molniya orbit satellites? It's not like that the Molniya orbit satellites are THAT old (USA-179 was launched in August 2004 on the last Atlas II and USA-198 was launched on Atlas V in December 2007).....

Maybe after the Reset button was pressed, the Molniya SDS's where no longer needed ;)

It seems like going all-GEO is a natural evolution of relay.

The original Molniya SDS constellation was intended to relay photo reconnaissance data directly from a reconsat to a ground station in the U.S. in only one bounce--up to the SDS, down to the ground. However, there were discussions (I think they were mid-late 1970s) of going to a system that used multiple satellites in GEO. Then you can get to the ground in probably two bounces, or maybe three at most. A bit more complicated in terms of the overall constellation, but it probably solves a lot of other issues. For instance, the Molniya satellites fly through the Van Allen Belts. Not cool. Also, it's probably a bit of a pain figuring out where to point your antennas all the time. With a GEO constellation that should be simpler because the GEO satellites are not always moving their location, they're fixed.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: bobthemonkey on 05/21/2014 06:25 pm
There's also the background to whats gone on in the GEO sat market since the first SDS birds launched given a wider commercial base to leverage.

The original TDRS fleet were, AIUI pretty much custom TRW vehicles; the current block 3 Boeing TDRS units are built on the common 601/701 bus, with a unique payload, much like any other Comsat.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/21/2014 07:15 pm
There's also the background to whats gone on in the GEO sat market since the first SDS birds launched given a wider commercial base to leverage.

The original TDRS fleet were, AIUI pretty much custom TRW vehicles; the current block 3 Boeing TDRS units are built on the common 601/701 bus, with a unique payload, much like any other Comsat.
Not to nit, but the original SDS satellites in Molniya orbits are believed to be based on commercial GEO platforms. Specifically the Hughes HS-350 bus. Siruis adapted  Space Systems Loral LS-1300 bus for Tundra orbits (similar to Molniya).

GEO platforms can and have been leveraged for Molniya orbit satellites. So that must not be it.   
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: bobthemonkey on 05/21/2014 07:28 pm
Nit away - missed the link to the Hughes bus.
The other point I think I was trying to make is that there is more synergies with the commercial side which would drive confidence and cost savings.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Blackstar on 05/21/2014 07:32 pm
There's also the background to whats gone on in the GEO sat market since the first SDS birds launched given a wider commercial base to leverage.

The original TDRS fleet were, AIUI pretty much custom TRW vehicles; the current block 3 Boeing TDRS units are built on the common 601/701 bus, with a unique payload, much like any other Comsat.
Not to nit, but the original SDS satellites in Molniya orbits are believed to be based on commercial GEO platforms. Specifically the Hughes HS-350 bus. Siruis adapted  Space Systems Loral LS-1300 bus for Tundra orbits (similar to Molniya).

Yeah, I concluded that Intelsat IV, SDS, and Jumpseat were all probably closely related. They were derivatives (or at least descendents) of Tacsat.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: jacqmans on 05/22/2014 04:21 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 07:19 am
William Graham's article coming up. Wow, where's that photo from Jacques, it's amazing.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/22/2014 08:02 am
William Graham's article coming up. Wow, where's that photo from Jacques, it's amazing.

From none other than ULA themselves (http://www.ulalaunch.com/file-library.aspx?launchEventID=212).  ;)

Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 08:13 am
Epic. There's our lead image sorted! :)
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Garrett on 05/22/2014 09:25 am
Epic. There's our lead image sorted! :)
Which one? They're all epic!
My fav is the 4th (2nd last). Wonderful lighting, both artificial and natural.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 09:44 am
Here's William Graham's extensive feature article for this mission:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/05/ula-atlas-v-nrol-33-launch/
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: jacqmans on 05/22/2014 10:08 am
L-3 Hours: The Launch Area is now being evacuated in preparation for propellant loading. #NROL33
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 11:02 am
ULA:

The countdown is underway for the launch of the National Reconnaissance Office (NROL-33) mission set to lift off on a ULA Atlas V rocket this morning from Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida at 9:05 a.m. EDT. The forecast continues to show a 90 percent of favorable weather conditions.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Hunts Villain on 05/22/2014 11:14 am
New t-0 9:09E for COLA.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 11:15 am
New t-0 9:09E for COLA.

Oh, thank you sir! :)
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Garrett on 05/22/2014 11:30 am
ULA @ulalaunch 6:55 AM (EDT) - 22 May 2014
The team has given the "Go!" to begin cryogenic fueling operations. After a planned 30-min hold, the count has resumed #AtlasV #NROL33
https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/469431353747210240
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Prober on 05/22/2014 11:40 am


wow someone has an artsy side  :)
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 12:30 pm
Webcast starting soon:
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Artyom. on 05/22/2014 12:38 pm
ULA ‏@ulalaunch
Weather for NROL 33 launch on an Atlas V is green for launch!
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 12:45 pm
Here we go....

Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Artyom. on 05/22/2014 12:45 pm
ULA webcast has started  :)
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Artyom. on 05/22/2014 12:45 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 12:45 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 12:46 pm
No issues being worked.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 12:46 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Artyom. on 05/22/2014 12:47 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 12:47 pm
Beach watchers.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 12:47 pm
Weather won't be an issue.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 12:50 pm
Tanks at flight level.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 12:51 pm
Into the 10 minute BIH at T-4 mins.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 12:54 pm
Lots of people now heading down the beach! Rocket launches from the beach? Not the worst place in the world to live! ;D
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 12:55 pm
Launch dedication:
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/22/2014 12:56 pm
That beach looks north of the Pad, is that Playlinda?
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 12:58 pm
Well done to the ULA tech people for fixing full screen on the webcast page.

Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 12:59 pm
L-10 mins.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:02 pm
Polling to come out of the hold.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Mighty-T on 05/22/2014 01:03 pm
That beach looks north of the Pad, is that Playlinda?
Yes, it is! I'd like to be there right now...
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:03 pm
All are go for the terminal count.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Artyom. on 05/22/2014 01:03 pm
GO FOR LAUNCH!
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:05 pm
Out of the hold. T-4 mins and counting!
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Artyom. on 05/22/2014 01:05 pm
T-minus 4 minutes and counting.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:06 pm
Tanks to flight pressure. FTS Internal.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:07 pm
Vehicle on internal power. Launch sequencer start.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:07 pm
FTS Armed.

T-90 seconds.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:08 pm
T-60 seconds.

Range Green after a pause!!
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:08 pm
T-30 seconds.

Go Atlas. Go Centaur. Go NROL-33.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Artyom. on 05/22/2014 01:09 pm
Go Atlas! Go Centaur! Go NROL-33!

LAUNCH!!
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:09 pm
LAUNCH!!
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:10 pm
Nominal first stage. Pitch complete.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Artyom. on 05/22/2014 01:10 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:11 pm
Mach One.

She always seems very assured during first stage. Very smooth.

MaxQ
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Artyom. on 05/22/2014 01:11 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:11 pm
Great plume!
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:11 pm
Preparing for staging.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:12 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:12 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Artyom. on 05/22/2014 01:14 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:14 pm
Staging!

1-2 Sep.

Centaur ignition.

Payload Fairing Jettison.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Lee Jay on 05/22/2014 01:14 pm
I think Marty slipped a digit on the early speed call, saying it was nineteen thousand and something miles per hour.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:15 pm
Well that was rather good! Very slick, ULA, very slick.

Anyone hear the groan she made at T-0? Engine hitting the sound suppression water?
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: input~2 on 05/22/2014 01:15 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:16 pm


Thanks for these Artyom. You always get the best shots! ;D
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Mapperuo on 05/22/2014 01:19 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ1iMsksK6Q
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/22/2014 01:25 pm
William Graham's superb article, updated:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/05/ula-atlas-v-nrol-33-launch/
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Artyom. on 05/22/2014 02:46 pm
ULA ‏@ulalaunch
NROL33 mission success! ULA Successfully Launches Four Missions in Just Seven Weeks!

Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Artyom. on 05/22/2014 02:54 pm
United Launch Alliance Successfully Launches Four Missions in Just Seven Weeks


 A United Launch Alliance (ULA) Atlas V rocket carrying a payload for the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) lifted off from Space Launch Complex-41 on May 22 at 9:09 a.m. EDT. Designated NROL-33, the mission is in support of national defense.     

“Congratulations to all of our mission partners on today’s successful launch of the NROL-33 mission!  The ULA team is honored to deliver another critical national security asset to orbit together with the NRO Office of Space Launch and the Air Force,” said Jim Sponnick, ULA vice president, Atlas and Delta Programs. “Today’s launch occurred six days after last week’s GPS IIF-6 launch – the second time this year that this team has launched back-to-back missions within a week.  Successfully launching at this tempo is a testament to the team’s focus on mission success, one-launch-at-a-time, and continuous improvement of our launch processes.”

This mission was launched aboard an Atlas V Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle (EELV) 401 configuration vehicle, which includes a 4-meter-diameter payload fairing. The Atlas booster for this mission was powered by the RD AMROSS RD-180 engine, and the Centaur upper stage was powered by a single Aerojet Rocketdyne RL10A engine.

ULA's next launch is the Delta II OCO-2 mission for NASA, scheduled for July 1 from Space Launch Complex-2 at Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif.

The EELV program was established by the United States Air Force to provide assured access to space for Department of Defense and other government payloads. The commercially developed EELV program supports the full range of government mission requirements, while delivering on schedule and providing significant cost savings over the heritage launch systems. 

With more than a century of combined heritage, United Launch Alliance is the nation’s most experienced and reliable launch service provider. ULA has successfully delivered more than 80 satellites to orbit that provide critical capabilities for troops in the field, aid meteorologists in tracking severe weather, enable personal device-based GPS navigation and unlock the mysteries of our solar system. Reliable launch, real-world benefits.

http://www.ulalaunch.com/ula-successfully-launches-NROL33.aspx
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: kevin-rf on 05/22/2014 03:02 pm
Congrads ULA, way to Go!
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: robertross on 05/22/2014 03:38 pm
Congrats ULA!

Thanks for the coverage folks.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: PahTo on 05/22/2014 03:41 pm

Congrats ULA--two successful launches in one week!
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: baldusi on 05/22/2014 04:40 pm
Congratulations! They do have the best launcher team in the world. Nobody else can touch their mix of launch rate, reliability and performance.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: TJL on 05/22/2014 11:21 pm
Well that was rather good! Very slick, ULA, very slick.

Anyone hear the groan she made at T-0? Engine hitting the sound suppression water?

Chris, the sound was similar to that made by Titan 2 when launching the Gemini spacecraft.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Artyom. on 05/23/2014 12:18 pm
GoPro Hero 2 At The Pad Captures Atlas V Rocket Launch WIth NROL-33

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJoNovDM6WM
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Lar on 05/23/2014 01:12 pm
William Graham's superb article, updated:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/05/ula-atlas-v-nrol-33-launch/

Very nice article. Wish it had the launch patch though, since it was referred to in the article. Not sure what the "drake" patch is... doesn't look like a flying squirrel to me!
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: William Graham on 05/23/2014 01:25 pm
William Graham's superb article, updated:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/05/ula-atlas-v-nrol-33-launch/

Very nice article. Wish it had the launch patch though, since it was referred to in the article. Not sure what the "drake" patch is... doesn't look like a flying squirrel to me!

It's the patch from the last Quasar launch, NROL-38
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/23/2014 03:12 pm
Mission highlights finally uploaded:   :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMUJp5TM_z4
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Targeteer on 05/24/2014 12:38 am
Interesting nugget from AL STERN Satellite Beach FL, an amateur radio enthusiast who monitors Florida air comms.  Any ideas out there what sensors the aircraft was carrying?

"WB-57F "NASA 927" (63-13295;ex 53-3918) just landed at Patrick AFB after participating in the launch of the Atlas V rocket this morning.  During the launch I heard comms from NASA 927 with CCAFS Tower on 118.625, discussing F-Stop adjustments to its cameras."
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Lewis007 on 05/24/2014 07:44 am
What is the NROL-33 mission nickname (like Gryphon, Drake, etc)?
Perhaps this has been posted somewhere, but I couldn't find it.
Thanks
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: Targeteer on 05/24/2014 03:10 pm
A leading amateur observer found what he believes is USA-252 still in it's transfer orbit

1) Early on in the run an unknown [99418/14644A] was seen and tracked until I saw the second unknown. The object is in a geostationary transfer orbit, and the measurements provide a good constraint on all parameters, with a mean motion of 2.24 revs/day:
1 99418U 14644A   14144.03015972  .00000000  00000-0  00000-0 0    04
2 99418  20.6956 263.7634 7074111 178.0121  96.0401  2.24037956    01
# 20140524.02-20140524.04, 79 measurements, 0.003 deg rms

   The orbit has the perigee at the descending node, and the plane passes over Florida at the time of the NROL-33 launch from last Thursday. I am confident that this object is NROL-33/USA 252  [39751/14027A], presently still in its transfer orbit.

http://www.satobs.org/seesat/May-2014/0150.html
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: ugordan on 05/24/2014 03:25 pm
Mission highlights finally uploaded:   :D

I only just noticed this: why is the upper SRB attachment area now white? Looks like a relatively recent change.
Title: Re: LIVE: Atlas V 401 - NROL-33 - May 22, 2014
Post by: edkyle99 on 05/24/2014 05:24 pm
I only just noticed this: why is the upper SRB attachment area now white? Looks like a relatively recent change.
The change seems to have appeared at the pads during 2012, around the same time that the "AV-XXX" numbers disappeared.  This may roughly coincide with the production move to Decatur. 

As for why, I can only guess.  It might provide a bit of a thermal barrier.  It might be for visibility for tracking cameras, to help confirm clean separations.  It might improve visibility during assembly, when the solids are attached on the pad.  It might be a different corrosion coating.

 - Ed Kyle