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Title: Gas generator efficiency (Q/A)
Post by: aero on 02/21/2014 06:44 pm
Several questions.

I'm trying to model the SpaceX Merlin D engine gas generator. Can anyone answer these questions in general?

1 - How much pressure beyond the combustion chamber pressure (9.7 MPa) is needed for injector performance?
2 - What is a good, conservative efficiency for the turbo pumps? I am using 0.8 for both the LOX and RP-1 pumps but they are probably not equally efficient.
3 - What is a good, conservative efficiency for the gas turbine? I am using about 0.394, is that to high? (It's a single shaft system.)
4 - What is a realistic number for the turbine blade temperature? I'm using 1000 deg. C but wonder if that is to low.

Thanks for any help.

aero
Title: Re: Gas generator efficiency (Q/A)
Post by: baldusi on 02/26/2014 12:42 pm
You can look for the Markusic Propulsion presentation (PDF) (http://images.spaceref.com/news/2010/SpaceX_Propulsion.pdf). There's a point scheme of the proposed Merlin 2. Merlin 1 has a chamber pressure of about 1,000psi, and 1D was supposedly 1,400psi. Big TP like the Merlin 2 would be more efficient. But is not a bad starting point.
Title: Re: Gas generator efficiency (Q/A)
Post by: R7 on 03/07/2014 07:16 pm
Couple links that maybe of interest:

http://www.space-propulsion.info/resources/articles/AIAA-2005-3946.pdf

http://ftp.rta.nato.int/public/PubFullText/RTO/EN/RTO-EN-AVT-150/EN-AVT-150-06.pdf

1 - Sutton puts injector pressure drop at 15-25% of chamber pressure. IIRC coolant channel pressure drop is in the same ballpark.

4 - 1000C sound too high .. most numbers been around 800-1000K.

The latest RPA (http://www.propulsion-analysis.com/) has tools for turbopump and  cooling characteristics computations.
Title: Re: Gas generator efficiency (Q/A)
Post by: JohnFornaro on 03/08/2014 01:16 pm
R7:  Thanks for those links.  I just had Sutton to date.  I like reading the same stuff by different authors.  Sometimes author #1 glosses over a 'basic' something that the amateur needs to know, but author #2 does not.
Title: Re: Gas generator efficiency (Q/A)
Post by: R7 on 03/08/2014 03:26 pm
I just had Sutton to date.  I like reading the same stuff by different authors.

Then NASA SP-125 Huzel & Huang - Design of Liquid Propellant Rocket Engines (http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19710019929.pdf) is a must have too. Better turbopump section than Sutton.