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Title: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: RJC on 06/23/2006 05:57 pm
Check this out it seems there is some sort of issue with water absorbed by ET-118's structure!

http://62.189.48.33/Articles/2006/06/23/Navigation/200/207397/NASA+'Water+seeping+from+Space+Shuttle+Atlantis's+propellant.html

Title: RE: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/23/2006 06:45 pm
Hey Rob, welcome to the site. Nice to have one of the FI guys here :)

Crikey, I'll go ask a few ET mechs at KSC on this as it's hardly welcome news.
Title: Re: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: Flightstar on 06/23/2006 06:50 pm
Well this tank is needed for LON with Atlantis, so it's AS important as ET-119.
Title: Re: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: James (Lockheed) on 06/23/2006 06:52 pm
I don't think it's confirmed as "leaking" from the "Intertank" is what the guys here are saying.  Remember this tank was shipped without final pressurization tests to get it to KSC for closeout work on such tests along with ECO R&R.
Title: Re: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/23/2006 06:55 pm
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James (Lockheed) - 23/6/2006  7:39 PM

I don't think it's confirmed as "leaking" from the "Intertank". Condensation is what the guys here are saying.  Remember this tank was shipped without final pressurization tests to get it to KSC for closeout work on such tests along with ECO R&R.

That could be interesting, because they were due to pressurise the tank around this time (let me check the work schedule for ET-118).

Problem is, if they've done that, and the intertank has an issue found from that pressurisation, then that's a big issue.

I've asked two KSC mechs about it and a couple of guys at MAF if they've heard what it could be.
Title: Re: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: James (Lockheed) on 06/23/2006 08:13 pm
I've checked. This is not an issue for the tank.
Title: RE: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/23/2006 08:28 pm
Ok, some selected comments from sources.

There's 93 MAF engineers in the VAB, working seven days a week round the clock with the ECO R&R and it's behind schedule  :o

The water (which Rob mentioned) leaked in through the IT GSE access door during Katrina at MAF. MAF say they can clear it without a problem.
Title: Re: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/26/2006 09:02 pm
NASA Status report.

External Tank

The water that was discovered last week in one of the stringers of the
intertank on ET-118 has been removed. Stringers are reinforcing
channel structures located on the outside of the intertank skin.
Preliminary water analysis indicates that corrosion and salinity
levels are low and will not affect the launch-on-need support for
STS-121 or the STS-115 mission.
Title: Re: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: astrobrian on 06/26/2006 09:58 pm
Both interesting, and sounding good all in one
Title: Re: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: Avron on 06/27/2006 04:39 am
How would they test that all the water has been removed, or do we wait fo Ice to form..?
Title: Re: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/28/2006 12:02 pm
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Avron - 27/6/2006  5:26 AM

How would they test that all the water has been removed, or do we wait fo Ice to form..?

Good question and I'll ask.
Title: Re: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: astrobrian on 06/28/2006 11:06 pm
I would think there are moisture detection systems available. Waiting for ice to form sounds to reactive as opposed to proactive
Title: Re: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: dutch courage on 06/29/2006 11:26 am
And don't forget the rainfall during the time the shuttle is on the pad.
Title: Re: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: woketman on 08/16/2006 07:20 pm
The water got in there in the first place because a portion of the ceiling failed over the ET during Katrina while the tank was in the horizontal position.  H2O was able to enter the Intertank through several paths (the LO2 Feedline hole, GH2 Pressline hole, etc.) and collect at the bottom of the Intertank on the interior.  It entered the stringer through a vent hole that vents the stringer interior to the Intertank interior.  Rain water on the pad can not do this for many reasons.
Title: RE: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: Chris Bergin on 08/16/2006 07:28 pm
Thanks for the info Mark, and welcome to the site.
Title: Re: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: MKremer on 08/16/2006 08:55 pm
Thanks, Mark. I figured it was something due to Katrina while the tank was at MAF.
Title: Re: Atlantis' ET is seeping water
Post by: Avron on 08/17/2006 05:47 pm
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Chris Bergin - 28/6/2006  7:49 AM

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Avron - 27/6/2006  5:26 AM

How would they test that all the water has been removed, or do we wait fo Ice to form..?

Good question and I'll ask.

Did you get an answer?