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Title: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: anik on 05/26/2012 07:34 am
The launch of Proton-M rocket with Briz-M upper stage and Luch-5B and Yamal-300K satellites is planned on August 30th.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Danderman on 06/01/2012 12:13 pm
http://www.gascom.ru/en/news/events/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=1910&print=Y

January 27, 2012

Yamal-300K Satellite Integration

In the assembly workshop of Information Satellite Systems Reshetnev Company after the offline test the mating of payload module with bus of Yamal-300K satellite was made.

Yamal-300K payload is designed by Gazprom Space Systems, its acceptance test was performed in November 2011.

Gazprom Space Systems has its ground control facilities, including the TT&C station, computing network and also common timing system, conference communication, uninterruptible power supply and general engineering systems placed in Schelkovo district, Moscow region.

Now preparations of Yamal-300K spacecraft final tests are in process.

Designated for dual launch of Yamal-300K and Luch-5B satellites Proton-M launch vehicle has been made and placed at Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Danderman on 06/01/2012 12:26 pm
http://www.gascom.ru/en/news/publications/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=1410&print=Y

September 22, 2010

ISS-Reshetnev goes on with Yamal-300K


Academician M.F. Reshetnev Information Satellite Systems is busy manufacturing the Yamal-300K spacecraft for Gazprom Space Systems’ orbital fleet.

In accordance with the contract signed between ISS-Reshetnev and Gazprom Space Systems for the manufacture of the Yamal-300K telecommunications satellite, the Reshetnev Company is responsible for the design, development, manufacture and testing of the spacecraft as well as its pre-launch preparations and in-orbit commissioning. The contract also calls for the Reshetnev Company to provide a ground control segment.

At present ISS-Reshetnev is manufacturing heat pipes for the new spacecraft. A total of 130 heat pipes will be installed onboard YAMAL-300K after rigorous testing.

As well as the manufacturing of heat pipes, there is parallel work going on the development of antenna-feeder devices. So far, the company has manufactured feeder models and tested antennas and devices intended for the TCR equipment.

The Yamal-300K spacecraft is based on ISS-Reshetnev’s Express-1000H unpressurized medium-class platform. It has been designed to operate for as long as 14 years to provide services to Russia and CIS countries.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Artyom. on 07/20/2012 11:14 am
Breeze M Arrived at Baikonur to Support Yamal – Loutch Mission

The Breeze M Upper Stage has arrived at Baikonur earlier today to support (as part of a Proton M integrated launch vehicle) the injection of the Loutch 5B and Yamal 300K domestic communication satellites to GSO.
The Breeze M was delivered to the Yubileiny airfield by an Antonov 124-100 cargo aircraft (nicknamed Ruslan) operated by Polyot, a Russian airline.
 
After being offloaded, the Breeze M will be moved to the Integration-and-Test Facility (ITF), Building 92A-50.  Here Khrunichev experts will carry out component-level checkouts of the Upper Stage’s systems and will process the Upper Stage for mating to the two spacecraft.
 
The Loutch spacecraft family has been built under the Federal Space Program of Russia 2006-2015.  These satellites are designed to support duplex data exchange between ground transmit/receive facilities, on the one hand, and LEO spacecraft, manned space systems (primarily the Russian segment of the International Space Station) and other space-related objects, on the other.
 
Loutch satellites will support data exchange when not visible by the Russian monitoring facilities and downlink data to Russian transmit/receive stations on-line in addition to supporting TV spacebridges between, and teleconferencing of, ground facilities.Loutch 5A, the first spacecraft from the family, was successfully lofted on 11 December 2011 from the Area 81 launch pad, Baikonur, on a Proton M/Breeze M LV.
 
Yamal 300K has been built for Gazprom Space Systems, a satellite network operator.  From its 90º E GSO slot position the spacecraft will provide coverage of Russia and the CIS in the C- and Ku-bands.  The performance of its 26 transponders will be adequate for the provision of all kinds of up-to-date communication services.
 
The Proton M LV assigned to implement the Yamal 300K/Loutch 5A tandem launch was shipped to Baikonur on June 16.  Yesterday Khrunichev and TsENKI, a Yuzhny Space Center company, completed mechanical and electrical mating of LV Stage 1 and the Stages 2/3 stack at 92A-50 ITF.

http://www.khrunichev.ru/main.php?id=1&nid=771
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Danderman on 07/20/2012 02:05 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJVCucScbG0

A video about the construction and operation of the Yamal 300K satellite - Nikolai Sevastyanov is described as the General Constructor for the Yamal satellite.

Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: anik on 07/25/2012 09:31 am
September 8, as per NK forum.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: anik on 07/26/2012 11:23 am
The launch is planned at 20:04 UTC on September 7th.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Prober on 07/29/2012 06:25 pm
The launch is planned at 20:04 UTC on September 7th.

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/luch5a.html

"In May 2012, Luch-5B went through thermal and vacuum test and its launch was scheduled for Aug. 30, 2012. By that time, Luch-5B was assigned a position at 16 degrees West longitude, where it was promised to provide communications with the ISS. As of March 2012, the launch was expected in July 2012, however by April, the mission slipped to the middle or end of August 2012. Before the end of May 2012, the launch was set for August 30, however around the same time, an official document indicated that the mission was scheduled for October."

I'm trying to understand the communications system, and what & when it will give more to the ISS.  Can you point in the right direction?

Found this in the launch schedule 2014 first quarter – KazSat-3, Luch-5V – Proton-M/Briz-M – Baikonur.   Do we need the Luch-5V before the communication system works?

New thread: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=29577.0

Edit: added new thread link




Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Artyom. on 07/30/2012 10:44 am
Satellites «Luch-5B» and «Yamal-300» were delivered by An-124-100 aircraft to Baikonur cosmodrome today.
http://www.tsenki.com/news/news_tsenki/?ELEMENT_ID=94416 (in Russian)
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Danderman on 08/02/2012 06:25 pm
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/luch5a.html

"In May 2012, Luch-5B went through thermal and vacuum test and its launch was scheduled for Aug. 30, 2012. By that time, Luch-5B was assigned a position at 16 degrees West longitude, where it was promised to provide communications with the ISS. As of March 2012, the launch was expected in July 2012, however by April, the mission slipped to the middle or end of August 2012. Before the end of May 2012, the launch was set for August 30, however around the same time, an official document indicated that the mission was scheduled for October."

I'm trying to understand the communications system, and what & when it will give more to the ISS.  Can you point in the right direction?

Found this in the launch schedule 2014 first quarter – KazSat-3, Luch-5V – Proton-M/Briz-M – Baikonur.   Do we need the Luch-5V before the communication system works?

The network should be viable with just the first two Luches Luchii Luch.

Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Prober on 08/02/2012 07:26 pm
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/luch5a.html (http://www.russianspaceweb.com/luch5a.html)

"In May 2012, Luch-5B went through thermal and vacuum test and its launch was scheduled for Aug. 30, 2012. By that time, Luch-5B was assigned a position at 16 degrees West longitude, where it was promised to provide communications with the ISS. As of March 2012, the launch was expected in July 2012, however by April, the mission slipped to the middle or end of August 2012. Before the end of May 2012, the launch was set for August 30, however around the same time, an official document indicated that the mission was scheduled for October."

I'm trying to understand the communications system, and what & when it will give more to the ISS.  Can you point in the right direction?

Found this in the launch schedule 2014 first quarter – KazSat-3, Luch-5V – Proton-M/Briz-M – Baikonur.   Do we need the Luch-5V before the communication system works?

The network should be viable with just the first two Luches Luchii Luch.



This network will give Soyuz no drop in communications?
 
Is this the network that will give the ISS no drop communications, and HD video feed etc?
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: anik on 08/22/2012 10:37 am
According to http://www.interfax.ru/news.asp?id=261672, the launch will be possibly in the end of September - beginning of October.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Danderman on 08/22/2012 01:44 pm

The network should be viable with just the first two Luches Luchii Luch.



This network will give Soyuz no drop in communications?
 


A free flying Soyuz cannot access the Luch satellites.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: anik on 08/28/2012 12:05 pm
According to NK forum, the launch will be possibly on October 13th.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: anik on 08/31/2012 10:51 am
The launch is planned at 20:44 UTC on October 15th.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: patchfree on 09/05/2012 07:44 pm
I have doubt about this launch this year as Proton/BrizM are stuck down after the last launch failed.

All the  launches for the Defense Minister using Proton/BrizM are shifted to 2013. So probably the same for commercial launches.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: anik on 09/08/2012 09:30 am
http://www.comnews.ru/node/67796

The launch is planned on November 1/2.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Prober on 09/09/2012 06:13 pm
Do we have pics yet of the Luch-5B?

Luch-5B is considered "national" for Russia or Military?
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: mrhuggy on 09/10/2012 07:08 pm
Do we have pics yet of the Luch-5B?

Luch-5B is considered "national" for Russia or Military?


I do have a picture of Luch-5A from the Farnbrough air show this year. I don't think there is much difference between the two.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Prober on 09/10/2012 08:25 pm
thx Chris this helps.

Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: anik on 09/12/2012 05:42 pm
http://www.spacenews.com/launch/proton-set-return-flight-oct-carrying-intelsat-is-23.html

"A Russian federal government mission carrying a Russian Lutch data-relay satellite and Gazprom Space Systems’ Yamal 300K telecommunications satellite will follow on Nov. 2, ILS President Frank McKenna said"
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: anik on 10/09/2012 09:30 am
The launch is planned at 21:05:00 UTC on November 2nd.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: anik on 10/23/2012 08:27 am
Luch-5B satellite is on Briz-M upper stage inside MIK 92A-50 building on October 21st.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Stan Black on 10/23/2012 05:42 pm
Luch-5B satellite is on Briz-M upper stage inside MIK 92A-50 building on October 21st.

 With the launch of Luch-5A and Amos-5, Amos-5 was attached to the Briz-M and the smaller Luch-5A attached to Amos-5. Luch-5A was dropped off first in an inclined orbit. After another Briz-M burn Amos-5 was delivered to 0° GSO orbit.

 Luch-5B unlike Luch-5A does not feature the COSPAS/SARSAT antennas on top. Yamal-300K unlike Amos-5 does feature additional antennas on top.

 So this time around they are swapping positions. Yamal-300K to 0° first then Luch-5B to an inclined GSO?

http://www.iss-reshetnev.ru/?cid=news&nid=1467

 Luch-5V is also to feature COSPAS/SARSAT, so will it sit on top of Kazsat-3 for that launch?
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Stan Black on 10/28/2012 08:56 pm
Yes, for Intelsat-23 and Luch-5B/Yamal-300K. But if I have understood correctly these upper stages will be returned to Moscow. Other upper stages will be used for these launches.

 So what was the serial number of the original Briz-M for Yamal-300K/Luch-5B, and when was a replacement delivered?
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 10/28/2012 09:08 pm
Yes, for Intelsat-23 and Luch-5B/Yamal-300K. But if I have understood correctly these upper stages will be returned to Moscow. Other upper stages will be used for these launches.

 So what was the serial number of the original Briz-M for Yamal-300K/Luch-5B, and when was a replacement delivered?

Original Briz-M was 99534 then changed to 99533 and then again to 99534, and finally to 99533 again. I have no information about the arrival dates to Baykonur.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Prober on 10/29/2012 01:32 pm
Didn't see this on the ILS site so this must be a gov. launch?

What video link?
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: russianhalo117 on 10/29/2012 02:38 pm
Didn't see this on the ILS site so this must be a gov. launch?
What video link?
Yes, it is indeed a federal launch. Realtime video will most likely be through the Center for Ground-Based Space Infrastructure Facilities Operation known as ЦЭНКИ LINK: http://www.tsenki.com/en/broadcast/ (http://www.tsenki.com/en/broadcast/) The link for this mission shall become available not long after Progress M-17M launches to ISS).
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Artyom. on 10/29/2012 03:04 pm
The Proton-M rocket has moved to the Breeze-M fueling station.
http://www.roscosmos.ru/main.php?id=2&nid=19648 (on Russian)
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Artyom. on 10/30/2012 09:26 am
Proton Breeze M Launcher with Luch-5B and Yamal-300K Spacecraft Installed onto Launch Pad

http://www.tsenki.com/news/news_tsenki/?ELEMENT_ID=96179
http://www.federalspace.ru/main.php?id=2&nid=19650 (on Russian)
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 10/30/2012 02:18 pm
Anyone have the launch timeline and target orbits for the two satellites? Looks like Khrunichev is playing hide-and-seek again (http://coopi.khrunichev.ru/main.php): their live data page lists the next launch as EchoStar 16.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: anik on 10/31/2012 08:15 am
I was told that the launch is planned at 21:04:00 UTC on November 2nd.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/01/2012 08:52 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyXjztQeDyE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyXjztQeDyE)

Anyone got the launch timeline and target orbits data available? It's a pain trying to find them when Khrunichev is silent, the NK forums down while trying to move to a new server and this being a non-ILS launch....  :-X
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/01/2012 05:12 pm

Anyone got the launch timeline and target orbits data available? It's a pain trying to find them when Khrunichev is silent, the NK forums down while trying to move to a new server and this being a non-ILS launch....  :-X
As Luch-5A/Amos-5 launch involved just about the same spacecraft masses, I would assume Luch-5B/Yamal-300K will have a comparable launch profile as described here (http://coopi.khrunichev.ru/download/2011/luchamos/email/rus/luchamos_e12_02.htm)
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Stan Black on 11/01/2012 06:32 pm

Anyone got the launch timeline and target orbits data available? It's a pain trying to find them when Khrunichev is silent, the NK forums down while trying to move to a new server and this being a non-ILS launch....  :-X
As Luch-5A/Amos-5 launch involved just about the same spacecraft masses, I would assume Luch-5B/Yamal-300K will have a comparable launch profile as described here (http://coopi.khrunichev.ru/download/2011/luchamos/email/rus/luchamos_e12_02.htm)

Difference probably will be that Yamal-300K will be dropped off 1st in 0° orbit followed by a burn to 5° orbit for Luch-5B - opposite to the Luch-5A/Amos-5.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/01/2012 06:51 pm
NOTAMs
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K0639/12 -  ATS ROUTE SEGMENTS CLSD: 1. A113 TIROK-GISIR FROM 25 KM TO 65 KM 2. B822 LUGER-BETIK FROM 35 KM TO 75 KM SFC/UNL. SFC - UNL, DAILY 2030/2130, 02 NOV 20:30 2012 UNTIL 03 NOV 21:30 2012. CREATED: 31 OCT 11:13 2012
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P4366/12 -  ATS SEGMENTS CLSD: A814 ARNUL - LANBI B206 ARNUL - AKTAS G489 TELRU - AKTAS. SFC - UNL, DAILY 2030-2130, 02 NOV 20:30 2012 UNTIL 03 NOV 21:30 2012. CREATED: 29 OCT 10:07 2012
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A4705/12 -  QRDCA THE RUSSIAN FEDERAL SPACE AGENCY HAS PLANNED A MISSILE  LAUNCH.  DEBRIS FROM THIS LAUNCH WILL FALL WITHIN AN AREA BOUNDED BY  2515N/16000E  2600N/16045E  2330N/16335E  2245N/16248E BACK TO THE  POINT OF ORIGIN.  IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY ALL NON-PARTICIPATING AIR TRAFFIC ARE ADVISED TO AVOID THE NOTAMED AREA.  IFR AIRCRAFT UNDER  ATC JURISDICTION SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE AROUND THE NOTAMED AREA. SFC - UNL, 2100-2230 DAILY, 02 NOV 21:00 2012 UNTIL 05 NOV 22:30 2012. CREATED: 30 OCT 17:23 2012
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/01/2012 06:54 pm
Lift-off planned timing confirmed at 2104UTC
(source (http://www.tsenki.com/broadcast/))

Live broadcast planned on Tsenki October 2, from 1900 to 2200UTC
http://www.tsenki.com/broadcast/broadcast/ (http://www.tsenki.com/broadcast/broadcast/)
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: anik on 11/02/2012 11:22 am
Liftoff - 21:04:00 UTC
Briz-M separation - 21:13:42
Briz-M first burn - 21:15:16-21:19:22
Briz-M second burn - 22:11:28-22:29:10
Briz-M third burn - 00:32:57-00:50:49
APT separation - 00:52:10
Briz-M fourth burn - 05:52:17-06:05:40
Yamal-300K separation - 06:18
Luch-5B separation - 06:33
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 11:26 am
Liftoff - 21:04:00 UTC
Briz-M separation - 21:13:42
Briz-M first burn - 21:15:16-21:19:22
Briz-M second burn - 22:11:28-22:29:10
Briz-M third burn - 00:32:57-00:50:49
APT separation - 00:52:10
Briz-M fourth burn - 05:52:17-06:05:40
Yamal-300K separation - 06:18
Luch-5B separation - 06:33

Thank you Andrey!
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 11:29 am
Liftoff - 21:04:00 UTC
Briz-M separation - 21:13:42
Briz-M first burn - 21:15:16-21:19:22
Briz-M second burn - 22:11:28-22:29:10
Briz-M third burn - 00:32:57-00:50:49
APT separation - 00:52:10
Briz-M fourth burn - 05:52:17-06:05:40
Yamal-300K separation - 06:18
Luch-5B separation - 06:33

Andrey, do you also got the orbit parameters of each of the orbits following the four Briz-M burns? Thanks!
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: anik on 11/02/2012 12:10 pm
Briz-M fifth burn - 08:37:20-08:37:35
Briz-M sixth burn - 08:44:30-08:46:10

Yamal-300K planned initial orbit: 35792.9x35793.1 km, 0.0045 deg
Luch-5B planned initial orbit: 35793.0x35821.7 km, 0.023 deg
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 12:49 pm
Moved for live coverage...
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: xm11 on 11/02/2012 04:06 pm
web cam launch proton work now
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Stan Black on 11/02/2012 04:12 pm
Briz-M fifth burn - 08:37:20-08:37:35
Briz-M sixth burn - 08:44:30-08:46:10

Yamal-300K planned initial orbit: 35792.9x35793.1 km, 0.0045 deg
Luch-5B planned initial orbit: 35793.0x35821.7 km, 0.023 deg

Those last two are just using the low thrust engines and are for disposal?
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 04:28 pm
web cam launch proton work now


So soon! Live from Baikonur...
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 04:50 pm
At this time the launch pad is cleared of all non-essential personal. It will be reopen at T-2h 30m.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 05:35 pm
T-2h 30m at this time the launch pad re-opens for final closeouts.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 06:06 pm
T-2h All personnel should be in their final positions for launch.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 06:20 pm
Next major event on the countdown and launch preparations will be the rollback of the Mobile Service Tower that starts at T-1h.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: patchfree on 11/02/2012 07:05 pm
For me the live video links from Tsenki and/or Roscosmos badly works...
No other link?
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Art LeBrun on 11/02/2012 07:07 pm
For me the live video links from Tsenki and/or Roscosmos badly works...
No other link?
Spaceflight Now...........
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Gorizont on 11/02/2012 07:10 pm
Yes, only bad connection to Tsenki.

(edit)

http://spaceflightnow.com/proton/yamal300kluch5b/121102rollout/
Yes, seems to work!
The tower is removed from the rocket.
Thanks!
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: patchfree on 11/02/2012 07:11 pm
For me the live video links from Tsenki and/or Roscosmos badly works...
No other link?
Spaceflight Now...........

Thanks.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 07:21 pm
Rollback of the Mobile Service Tower was done without problems.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 07:22 pm
At T-45m LV final countdown activities commence. Propulsion system GO signal is generated by the LV GN&C GLSTE. Countdown display system remote units are synchronized to the master CD clock.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 07:25 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 07:29 pm
T-35m LV GN&C GLSTE arms the launch abort systems. Readiness green indicator light illuminates on the launch abort unit front panel. Two redundant displays on the launch abort unit are synchronized to the CD clock and start countdown. SC launch unit abort switch is active.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 07:33 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Gorizont on 11/02/2012 07:42 pm
Good luck Proton and Briz-M for this flight!
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: edkyle99 on 11/02/2012 07:51 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 07:54 pm
T-10 minutes...
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 07:59 pm
T-5m LV GN&C GLSTE sends a T-300 sec command signal to the Breeze M GN&C GLSTE to synchronize the lift-off time. Breeze M begins transfer to internal power.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:02 pm
T-120 seconds... LV GN&C begins transfer to internal power. Breeze M completes transfer to internal power, sends “BREEZE M GO” signal to LV GN&C GLSTE.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:02 pm
At T-3.1s the LV GN&C GLSTE performs a final GO/NO-GO check of the LV, Breeze M and SC. If all the integrated LV components are GO, the first stage ignition sequence start is sent at the estimated time.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:03 pm
Lift-off contact signal received at T~0 (approximately T+2.49 ms). If at T+40 s the lift-off contact signal is not received, the Breeze M systems begin transfer to ground
power.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:04 pm
LAUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:05 pm
...and into the clouds! :(
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Gorizont on 11/02/2012 08:05 pm
Liftoff!
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:05 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Star One on 11/02/2012 08:05 pm
Liftoff rather caught me out as there was no sound on the Spaceflight Now streaming, or not for me anyway.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: edkyle99 on 11/02/2012 08:06 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: patchfree on 11/02/2012 08:06 pm
But no sound to follow the next events...
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Prober on 11/02/2012 08:07 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:08 pm
If everything is going according to plan we already had Stage 2 ignition and Stage 1 / 2 separation.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Prober on 11/02/2012 08:09 pm
hope that Luch gets into the right orbit
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:10 pm
Stage 3 vernier engine ignition must be taking place by now, followed by the Stage 2 engine shutdown and then Stage 2 / 3 separation, followed by Stage 3 main engine ignition.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Gorizont on 11/02/2012 08:10 pm
The sound.... we will find it in the lift-off-videos... I  hope.
I also had no sound, but I have a very low connection.  :)


greetings...
Soeren
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:11 pm
Payload fairing must already been jettisoned.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: patchfree on 11/02/2012 08:12 pm
I suppose it is a long lasting mission?
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Prober on 11/02/2012 08:12 pm
The sound.... we will find it in the lift-off-videos... I  hope.
I also had no sound, but I have a very low connection.  :)


greetings...
Soeren

most of the time all i get is the rotating flash loading.  Takes the fun out of a launch.

Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:12 pm
Smoking launch pad...
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Star One on 11/02/2012 08:13 pm
But no sound to follow the next events...

Just a picture of an empty launch pad.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: patchfree on 11/02/2012 08:13 pm
And as usual, some small fires at the pad.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:13 pm
Liftoff - 21:04:00 UTC
Briz-M separation - 21:13:42
Briz-M first burn - 21:15:16-21:19:22
Briz-M second burn - 22:11:28-22:29:10
Briz-M third burn - 00:32:57-00:50:49
APT separation - 00:52:10
Briz-M fourth burn - 05:52:17-06:05:40
Yamal-300K separation - 06:18
Luch-5B separation - 06:33
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:14 pm
Briz-M with the cargo must have separated by now.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:16 pm
At this time the Briz-M should be making its first burn.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:22 pm
The first Briz-M burn must have ended at 2119UTC.

Some information about this launch on the TsUP page at http://www.mcc.rsa.ru/luch_5b.htm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Gorizont on 11/02/2012 08:24 pm
Connection to spaceflightnow was canceled.
So I think, also the rocket has reached its orbit.

greetings...
Soeren
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:26 pm
Khrunichev is already reporting the launch... http://www.khrunichev.ru/main.php?id=1&nid=2639
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Prober on 11/02/2012 08:28 pm
The first Briz-M burn must have ended at 2119UTC.

Some information about this launch on the TsUP page at http://www.mcc.rsa.ru/luch_5b.htm

that is a very good page thx..

this is why I've been very interested...

Appointment of SC "Luch-5B"


"Обмен информацией различного вида, в том числе телевизионной - с АКА и ПКА, в первую очередь с Российским сегментом МКС; Exchange of information of various types, including television - with ACA and PCA, especially with the Russian segment of the ISS;
Ретрансляция информации целевого назначения от НКА; Relaying information from the special purpose satellite; "
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 08:31 pm
I suppose it is a long lasting mission?

Remember that this is a 9h 30m mission! The next Briz-M burn will take place at 2211UTC.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Prober on 11/02/2012 08:36 pm
maybe someone can answer this...

if Luch-5b was installed and operating during yesterdays EVA we could have had video in one area.

Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Art LeBrun on 11/02/2012 08:59 pm
Smoking launch pad...
How much is smoke and how much is DUST?  (Zenit really seems to raise dust).
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 09:09 pm
Smoking launch pad...
How much is smoke and how much is DUST?  (Zenit really seems to raise dust).

I think its all smoke. The picture was taken almost 10 minutes after launch and dust does not rises that way.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 09:11 pm
The second Briz-M burn must have already started...
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Satori on 11/02/2012 09:31 pm
The second Briz-M burn should have ended by now.

The third Briz-M burn will take place at 0032UTC on November 3.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Targeteer on 11/02/2012 10:56 pm
maybe someone can answer this...

if Luch-5b was installed and operating during yesterdays EVA we could have had video in one area.



I don't believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that the US Ku band system is compatible with the Luch system or would be used by NASA even if it was.  The Kibo module has a high data rate link but I don't think it's used by NASA. I'd be curious to see what if any cameras are on the Russian segment (inside or out) to provide video right now. Video from Russian spacewalks is via USOS exterior cameras and US provided helmet cams.  Even the video from the Russian segment of new crew arrivals is done via cameras run from the US segment.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/02/2012 11:14 pm
Thanks Rui. Missed this one! :o Thanks for covering guys!
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Prober on 11/03/2012 12:12 am
Thanks Rui. Missed this one! :o Thanks for covering guys!

the real good stuff might be when they get into the right orbit.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: mtakala24 on 11/03/2012 12:18 am
yeah, these goverment launches are very similar to the USAF EELV launches. Which is understandable :)

Hopefully they'll release a statement of success by the time I wake up tomorrow.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Prober on 11/03/2012 12:19 am
maybe someone can answer this...

if Luch-5b was installed and operating during yesterdays EVA we could have had video in one area.



I don't believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that the US Ku band system is compatible with the Luch system or would be used by NASA even if it was.  The Kibo module has a high data rate link but I don't think it's used by NASA. I'd be curious to see what if any cameras are on the Russian segment (inside or out) to provide video right now. Video from Russian spacewalks is via USOS exterior cameras and US provided helmet cams.  Even the video from the Russian segment of new crew arrivals is done via cameras run from the US segment.

kinda hope this will be part of it...
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=25674.0
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: jcm on 11/03/2012 01:14 am
Space-Track has two orbits for the stack
2012-61A  object 38977

  263 x 4996 km x 50.29 deg
  390 x 35827 km x 48.68 deg

so, so far so good with 4 hours to go till the next burn at apogee
At this writing the stack is ascending through 20000 km
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Artyom. on 11/03/2012 04:26 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVWXl_CFhLg&feature=g-all-u
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Artyom. on 11/03/2012 04:34 am
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/03/2012 05:00 am
The first Briz-M burn must have ended at 2119UTC.

Some information about this launch on the TsUP page at http://www.mcc.rsa.ru/luch_5b.htm (http://www.mcc.rsa.ru/luch_5b.htm)
The figure at the bottom of this page seems to have a misprint concerning Luch-5B orbital position; AFAIU it should be 16°W as mentionned on top of the page not 95°E (Luch-5A is now occupying 95°E)
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/03/2012 05:10 am
The first Briz-M burn must have ended at 2119UTC.

Some information about this launch on the TsUP page at http://www.mcc.rsa.ru/luch_5b.htm (http://www.mcc.rsa.ru/luch_5b.htm)
The figure at the bottom of this page seems to have a misprint concerning Luch-5B orbital position; AFAIU it should be 16°W as mentionned on top of the page not 95°E (Luch-5A is now occupying 95°E)


I think this is an older (pre-late 2011) plan, now with Luch-4 cancelled (re-oriented to a different project, with a new Luch-5V as a replacement) and Luch-5A/B swapping orbital slots....
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/03/2012 05:19 am
Yamal-300K should have separated by now...
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: spectre9 on 11/03/2012 05:23 am
How did Briz-M do?

The anxious wait  ;D
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/03/2012 05:33 am
Mission success reported!
http://www.interfax.ru/society/news.asp?id=274182
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/03/2012 05:36 am
Mission success reported!
http://www.interfax.ru/society/news.asp?id=274182 (http://www.interfax.ru/society/news.asp?id=274182)
That's presumably applicable to Yamal-300K for the time being
http://ria.ru/science/20121103/909088842.html
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/03/2012 05:39 am
OK for Yamal-300K
http://www.itar-tass.com/c1/562707.html
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/03/2012 05:46 am
Confirmation: Luch-5B separation OK!
http://ria.ru/science/20121103/909091616.html
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: spectre9 on 11/03/2012 05:47 am
Good news. Thanks for that  ;D
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: rds100 on 11/03/2012 06:09 am

And here is the confirmation from Roscosmos - http://www.roscosmos.ru/main.php?id=2&nid=19660
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/03/2012 06:31 am
Luch-5B solar panels have opened at the preset time
http://ria.ru/science/20121103/909096042.html
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/03/2012 06:33 am
Luch-5B antennas should deploy at 0933UTC
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/03/2012 08:50 am
According to the manufacturer of the satellites "All mechanical structures of [both] spacecraft have deployed"
http://www.iss-reshetnev.com/?cid=news&nid=257
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: gwiz on 11/03/2012 10:49 am
Luch-5B unlike Luch-5A does not feature the COSPAS/SARSAT antennas on top. Yamal-300K unlike Amos-5 does feature additional antennas on top.
Does that mean antennas relocated to elsewhere on the satellite or no SARSAT system on board?
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/03/2012 11:43 am
We now have nice pictures on http://www.mcc.rsa.ru/luch_5b.htm (http://www.mcc.rsa.ru/luch_5b.htm)

Luch-5B does not seem to carry SARSAT antennas
(see also Luch-5A antennas below)
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: jcm on 11/03/2012 06:50 pm
Object 38977 now appears to be the DTB drop tank, still being tracked today in transfer orbit - no tracking of the payloads or Briz-M yet
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 11/05/2012 09:30 am
http://www.gascom.ru/en/news/events/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=1910&print=Y

(...)

Yamal-300K payload is designed by Gazprom Space Systems, its acceptance test was performed in November 2011.

I don't understand... Gazprom Space Systems built the payload by its own ?? Don't you find this quite surprising ? I can't imagine that this unexperienced company could reach the same level as Thales Alenia Space, or others...
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: 360-180 on 11/05/2012 02:18 pm
http://www.sumitomo.ru/english/b_ict.html
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Danderman on 11/05/2012 02:19 pm
http://www.gascom.ru/en/news/events/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=1910&print=Y

(...)

Yamal-300K payload is designed by Gazprom Space Systems, its acceptance test was performed in November 2011.

I don't understand... Gazprom Space Systems built the payload by its own ?? Don't you find this quite surprising ? I can't imagine that this unexperienced company could reach the same level as Thales Alenia Space, or others...

The key here is that the "payload" was designed by Gazprom Space Systems, not the satellite. And "payload design" could mean many things, one of them not being "assembly of the payload".
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Stan Black on 11/05/2012 07:53 pm
http://www.gascom.ru/en/news/events/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=1910&print=Y

(...)

Yamal-300K payload is designed by Gazprom Space Systems, its acceptance test was performed in November 2011.

I don't understand... Gazprom Space Systems built the payload by its own ?? Don't you find this quite surprising ? I can't imagine that this unexperienced company could reach the same level as Thales Alenia Space, or others...

The key here is that the "payload" was designed by Gazprom Space Systems, not the satellite. And "payload design" could mean many things, one of them not being "assembly of the payload".


Quote
 The main advantage of the Yamal-300K project is its reduced order-to-delivery cycle time, which is mainly due to the fact that the equipment for the payload and the ground control segment was manufactured within the initial Yamal-300 program.
http://www.iss-reshetnev.com/images/File/magazin/2010/m10-screen_en.pdf

http://is.mdacorporation.com/mdais_canada/Market/Market_Communications_RelatedPrograms.aspx

Quote
 Gascom currently has three Yamal telecommunication satellites, designed and built jointly with the Energia Corporation.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080206/98567386.html
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/06/2012 05:33 am
Exactly 3 days after spacecraft separations, USSTRATCOM doesn't seem to track publicly either of them ???
Let's see if something will be published to-day!
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/06/2012 08:19 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC8Vt6Rl2Es (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC8Vt6Rl2Es)

Also according to Andrey at NK (http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum12/topic12592/message1004210/#message1004210 (http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum12/topic12592/message1004210/#message1004210)) Luch-5A will swap orbital places with the yet-to-be-launched Luch-5V to save the 167 deg. East slot, with the 95 deg. East slot emptied for a year or so. (note: Luch-5B is at 16 deg. West)
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Prober on 11/08/2012 03:30 pm
any updates on the Luch system going into operation?
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/10/2012 03:37 pm
Apparently USSTRATCOM has reserved 4 catalog numbers for in-orbit objects from this launch, ie 38977 to 38980.
For the time being only the Briz-M tank (38977) is publicly tracked.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: jcm on 11/28/2012 03:55 am
Finally, Nov 27, we see US tracking data for two of the high orbit objects
38977 in 35921 x 36085 km x 0.2 deg over 12.9E moving 2 deg W per day
38978 in 35607 x 35826 km x 0.2 deg over 87.9E moving 0.9 deg E per day

My tentative guess is that 38978 is Yamal, 38977 is the Briz-M, and the Luch is still missing.
The drop tank previously tracked as 38977 is now 38979.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 11/28/2012 07:38 am
Finally, Nov 27, we see US tracking data for two of the high orbit objects
38977 in 35921 x 36085 km x 0.2 deg over 12.9E moving 2 deg W per day
38978 in 35607 x 35826 km x 0.2 deg over 87.9E moving 0.9 deg E per day

My tentative guess is that 38978 is Yamal, 38977 is the Briz-M, and the Luch is still missing.
The drop tank previously tracked as 38977 is now 38979.

We'll know if 38977 is Luch-5B if it stops at 16°W around December 6
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: jcm on 11/28/2012 10:46 pm
Finally, Nov 27, we see US tracking data for two of the high orbit objects
38977 in 35921 x 36085 km x 0.2 deg over 12.9E moving 2 deg W per day
38978 in 35607 x 35826 km x 0.2 deg over 87.9E moving 0.9 deg E per day

My tentative guess is that 38978 is Yamal, 38977 is the Briz-M, and the Luch is still missing.
The drop tank previously tracked as 38977 is now 38979.

We'll know if 38977 is Luch-5B if it stops at 16°W around December 6


Ah, my bad, I forgot Luch 5B was going to the west slot. OK, so 38977 is probably Luch then, fair enough
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Stan Black on 07/20/2013 02:01 pm
Yes, for Intelsat-23 and Luch-5B/Yamal-300K. But if I have understood correctly these upper stages will be returned to Moscow. Other upper stages will be used for these launches.

 So what was the serial number of the original Briz-M for Yamal-300K/Luch-5B, and when was a replacement delivered?

Original Briz-M was 99534 then changed to 99533 and then again to 99534, and finally to 99533 again. I have no information about the arrival dates to Baykonur.

http://www.gazprom-spacesystems.ru/ru/news/publications/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=2142
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«Новости космонавтики»
01.2013
А. Красильников
После этого Роскосмос принял решение детально перепроверить произведенные «Бризы-М»: №99528 и №99533, находившиеся на космодроме, а также №99534 и №99535, пребывавшие в Центре Хруничева. На это потребовалось время. В результате 14 октября на «Протоне-М» первым после аварии полетел спутник Intelsat 23. Причем для его запуска использовался «Бриз-М» №99534, доставленный на Байконур 21 сентября, а не №99528, хранившийся в МИКе площадки 92А. А вот «Луч-5Б» и «Ямал-300К», как изначально планировалось, отправились на орбиту на блоке №99533.
Как сообщил НК заместитель директора Завода по эксплуатации ракетно-космической техники Центра Хруничева по летно-испытательной базе «Байконур» Леонид Горюшкин, «Бризы-М» №99528 и №99533 были подвергнуты специальной проверке прямо в МИКе площадки 92А.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 07/20/2013 02:24 pm
Transition of information :

Rui -> NSF -> anik -> NK -> Gazprom -> Stan -> NSF   ;D
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Stan Black on 07/20/2013 02:44 pm
Transition of information :

Rui -> NSF -> anik -> NK -> Gazprom -> Stan -> NSF   ;D

Yes it can be a little problematic finding the original source of information!

I posted the same information on three threads just to provide clarity.

It does look like that here on NSF we knew that the two Briz were modified at Baikonur, not returned to Khrunichev, and we new the serial numbers and delivery dates. You know, I always thought that NK was the source of information, but you are now making me believe that they sourced their information from NSF!
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 07/20/2013 04:20 pm
Transition of information :

Rui -> NSF -> anik -> NK -> Gazprom -> Stan -> NSF   ;D

Yes it can be a little problematic finding the original source of information!

I posted the same information on three threads just to provide clarity.

It does look like that here on NSF we knew that the two Briz were modified at Baikonur, not returned to Khrunichev, and we new the serial numbers and delivery dates. You know, I always thought that NK was the source of information, but you are now making me believe that they sourced their information from NSF!

This is an exception. Believe me, I read NK every month, and they are THE source for Russian Space !
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
Post by: Danderman on 12/16/2013 02:40 am
any updates on the Luch system going into operation?


Bump.