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Title: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 11/30/2011 10:55 AM
I've just found an old news about this spacecraft on Khartron-Arkos website :

Quote
24 Aпреля 2003

Выведено на орбиту изделие 71Х6 № 7126 универсальной системы наблюдения за земной поверхностью "Око-1" (Россия). Из-за возникших неполадок изделие в эксплуатацию не поступило.
Самое долгоживущее изделие 71Х6 № 7124 было выведено на орбиту 25.08.2001 г. и продолжает функционировать по сегодняшний день.
Начата модернизация СУ изделий 71Х6. Пуск изделия № 7128 с модернизированной СУ запланирован на 2010 г.

http://arkos.kharkov.ua/news.php?a=3
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: anik on 01/18/2012 12:42 PM
According to Novosti kosmonavtiki forum, the launch is planned on March 24th.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: William Graham on 01/18/2012 12:53 PM
Is it known whether this launch will use Proton-K 310-13 or 310-18?
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: anik on 01/18/2012 02:24 PM
Is it known whether this launch will use Proton-K 310-13 or 310-18?

41018.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: William Graham on 01/18/2012 03:18 PM
Is it known whether this launch will use Proton-K 310-13 or 310-18?

41018.
Sorry, I meant 410, not 310. Thanks for the information.

Do you know what is happening with 410-13? Somebody said it was going to be used for the GLONASS launch in December 2007, but that used a Proton-M. Is it likely to launch another payload, or is 410-18 going to be the last Proton-K to fly?
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Danderman on 01/18/2012 03:25 PM
How long can these things lie around before they are used??

 ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: anik on 01/18/2012 03:35 PM
is 410-18 going to be the last Proton-K to fly?

Yes, the last Proton-K launch.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Stan Black on 01/18/2012 03:56 PM
Is it known whether this launch will use Proton-K 310-13 or 310-18?

41018.
Sorry, I meant 410, not 310. Thanks for the information.

Do you know what is happening with 410-13? Somebody said it was going to be used for the GLONASS launch in December 2007, but that used a Proton-M. Is it likely to launch another payload, or is 410-18 going to be the last Proton-K to fly?

 Along with 41013 there is a missing DM serial number. Proton-K 41014 introduced some changes, possibly that explains it's absence?
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=23614.msg673277#msg673277
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4056
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=17568.msg672826#msg672826
http://www.khrunichev.ru/main.php?id=19&nid=42
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Stan Black on 01/18/2012 07:16 PM
How long can these things lie around before they are used??

 ??? ??? ??? ???

Proton-K guaranteed shelf life of five years.
Гарантийный срок хранения - 5 лет.
http://www.old.mil.ru/848/1045/1276/18716/index.shtml
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Danderman on 01/18/2012 07:20 PM
Just a reminder that the upper stage is DM-2, not Briz-M. This could be the last mission for a Blok-DM on Proton.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Stan Black on 01/18/2012 07:38 PM
Just a reminder that the upper stage is DM-2, not Briz-M. This could be the last mission for a Blok-DM on Proton.


DM-03?
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Danderman on 01/20/2012 05:37 PM
Just a reminder that the upper stage is DM-2, not Briz-M. This could be the last mission for a Blok-DM on Proton.


DM-03?

According to this NK forum thread, its a DM-2, which will be delivered in early February:

http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12297
 (http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12297)

They gave a production number for the Blok-DM:

ДМ-2 №117Л
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: William Graham on 01/20/2012 05:40 PM
This could be the last mission for a Blok-DM on Proton.
DM-03?
According to this NK forum thread, its a DM-2, which will be delivered in early February:

I think he was referring to the fact that the DM-03 is still flying on the Proton-M, so this won't be the last Blok-DM on a Proton even if it is the last DM-2.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Danderman on 01/20/2012 09:12 PM
This could be the last mission for a Blok-DM on Proton.
DM-03?
According to this NK forum thread, its a DM-2, which will be delivered in early February:

I think he was referring to the fact that the DM-03 is still flying on the Proton-M, so this won't be the last Blok-DM on a Proton even if it is the last DM-2.

DM-03 is still flying on Proton-M?

Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Stan Black on 01/20/2012 09:24 PM
This could be the last mission for a Blok-DM on Proton.
DM-03?
According to this NK forum thread, its a DM-2, which will be delivered in early February:

I think he was referring to the fact that the DM-03 is still flying on the Proton-M, so this won't be the last Blok-DM on a Proton even if it is the last DM-2.

DM-03 is still flying on Proton-M?



Quote from: anik
Говорят, что разгонные блоки ДМ-03 №2Л, №3Л и №4Л полностью изготовлены. Поскольку они предназначены для выведения "Глонассов", то их сдали на хранение. Первым в 2012 году полетит ДМ-03 №5Л с военным спутником, блок должен быть изготовлен до конца этого года.
http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4533&start=195

Ekspress-AMU1
http://www.federalspace.ru/main.php?id=15&did=1496
http://2011.rosspending.ru/contract/0173100007011000260/
http://www.federalspace.ru/main.php?id=15&did=1340
http://2011.rosspending.ru/contract/0173100007011000310/
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: anik on 01/30/2012 11:08 AM
According to Novosti kosmonavtiki forum, the launch is planned on March 26th.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: anik on 02/07/2012 07:11 PM
According to Novosti kosmonavtiki forum, the launch is planned in April.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: anik on 03/13/2012 07:40 AM
According to Novosti kosmonavtiki forum, the launch is planned on March 30th.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 03/23/2012 08:40 AM
A poster on the Novosti Kosmonavtiki forum posted the launch time in Morse Code!  ;D (link (http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=910210#910210))

Quote from: dcstssu
− − − − −    − − − − ·    − − − · · ·    · · · · −    · · − − −

I translated the message, and it seems to indicate that the launch is at 09:42 Moscow Time = 05:42 UTC.

Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: anik on 03/26/2012 08:29 AM
I was told, Proton-K rocket will be transported to the launch pad 81/24 tomorrow.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Satori on 03/27/2012 08:37 AM
I was told, Proton-K rocket will be transported to the launch pad 81/24 tomorrow.

Is it already on the launch pad?!
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: anik on 03/27/2012 11:09 AM
Is it already on the launch pad?!

Yes.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Satori on 03/27/2012 11:13 AM
Is it already on the launch pad?!

Yes.

Thank you Andrey.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Prober on 03/27/2012 03:00 PM
Any major differences in the K model vs the M model?
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 03/27/2012 03:43 PM
Any major differences in the K model vs the M model?


IIRC, new avionics and control system, lighter tank structures (still improving with different variations of the Proton-M), slightly larger thrust and performance for the first stage engines etc. The last ILS Proton-K mission was flown quite some time ago (June 2003), however the Russians continued to produce the K version for sometime for Russian commercial, government and (especially) MoD launches. This booster was in storage for several years already, as the last Proton-K launch was 32 launches ago (in February 2009).
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: anik on 03/29/2012 05:42 PM
The launch is planned at 05:49 UTC and satellite separation - at 12:27 UTC.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/29/2012 10:04 PM
Anyone know of any coverage? (Such as that channel which shows the Progress launches?)
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Satori on 03/29/2012 10:20 PM
Anyone know of any coverage? (Such as that channel which shows the Progress launches?)

Military launch, so no coverage.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/29/2012 11:46 PM
Ah, ok - we'll have an article via William, but we won't change this to a live thread due to the lack of webcast.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Rahkashi on 03/30/2012 12:20 AM
So there's no coverage at all?
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/30/2012 12:25 AM
So there's no coverage at all?

Nope.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Prober on 03/30/2012 01:01 AM
Anyone know of any coverage? (Such as that channel which shows the Progress launches?)

Military launch, so no coverage.

some things never change.  Why not show the launch?  Unless they fear mistakes? 
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Rahkashi on 03/30/2012 01:19 AM
Sad I won't be able to see the last Proton-K launch
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/30/2012 03:36 AM
Amazing read - especially the history - via this article by William Graham:

Russian Proton-K to complete 45 years of service with US-KMO satellite launch
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/03/russian-proton-k-rocket-launch-us-kmo/

Very fitting for its final launch.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Paul Howard on 03/30/2012 03:58 AM
That's an amazing feature by William. Great read!
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/30/2012 05:48 AM
This should be launching any moment. Everyone keep a look out on NK or official Russian media.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 03/30/2012 05:55 AM
Launched at 0549UTC
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20120330/609760984.html
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/30/2012 06:02 AM
Very good! прощание Proton-K, and we thank you! :)
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Skyrocket on 03/30/2012 06:12 AM
The feature article shows an US-K satellite, not an US-KMO.

US-KMO:
(http://space.skyrocket.de/img_sat/prognoz__1.jpg)
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/30/2012 06:24 AM
That's my fault. Is the above image yours Gunter? I'll assume so as it's on one of your links, so I'll change and accredit. Thanks!
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Skyrocket on 03/30/2012 06:51 AM
That's my fault. Is the above image yours Gunter? I'll assume so as it's on one of your links, so I'll change and accredit. Thanks!
It was found via Novosti Kosmonavtiki. The original source is unknown.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 03/30/2012 09:53 AM
USSTRATCOM has catalogued Object 38101/2012-012A at epoch 08:36:59 UTC in:
219.3km x 35905.5km x 49.28°
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 03/30/2012 12:47 PM
Launch success.

http://ria.ru/science/20120330/610102764.html (http://ria.ru/science/20120330/610102764.html)
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 03/30/2012 12:48 PM
Roscosmos pictures
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 03/30/2012 12:55 PM
Serial number for the satellite is "Cosmos-2479"
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: lbiderman on 03/30/2012 01:16 PM
Wasn´t this also the last Oko early warning satellite?
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: anik on 03/30/2012 01:44 PM
Wasn´t this also the last Oko early warning satellite?

It is the last Oko satellite.
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 03/30/2012 03:20 PM
Two more objects have been catalogued:
Object B in 185.8km x 191.9km x 51.66°
Object C in 179.9km x 187.6km x 51.65°
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 03/30/2012 06:28 PM
and now Object D in
35727.3km x 35898.5km x 2.32°
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 03/30/2012 07:33 PM
Object A is now in:
35898.3km x 35932.1km x 2.27°

IMHO:
Object A = S/C
Object B = DM-2 adapter
Object C = Proton-K 3rd stage
Object D = DM-2

I would expect Object E and F (the 2 ullage motors) to show up sooner or later
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Stan Black on 03/31/2012 05:43 AM
Amazing read - especially the history - via this article by William Graham:

Russian Proton-K to complete 45 years of service with US-KMO satellite launch
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/03/russian-proton-k-rocket-launch-us-kmo/

Very fitting for its final launch.

The Proton rockets 8K82 flew from 81/24?

http://www.spacephotos.ru/imgs/slv/proton/025033.jpg

Photographs show the railway approching from the left of the image.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/reports/2004/soviet-manned-lunar-milestones.htm

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=8409.0
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 04/01/2012 03:17 PM
Object A is now in:
35898.3km x 35932.1km x 2.27°

IMHO:
Object A = S/C
Object B = DM-2 adapter
Object C = Proton-K 3rd stage
Object D = DM-2

I would expect Object E and F (the 2 ullage motors) to show up sooner or later
USSTRATCOM now says:
 Object B = SL-12 R/B (1) ie Proton-K 3rd stage
 Object C = SL-12 PLAT ie DM-2 adapter

and also says that Object B re-entered April 1, at 1333UTC +/- 1 minute over 47N 65W (Canada East Coast)

(Object C, the DM-2 adapter, decayed on March 30)
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 04/02/2012 12:11 PM
There was two burns of DM-2 upper stage, at 07h03 GMT and 12h23 GMT.

http://www.energia.ru/ru/news/news-2012/news_03-30.html
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Stan Black on 04/03/2012 05:12 PM
http://www.rosles-re.ru/files/file/120402_pusk_RN_Proton_KA_71X6.pdf
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/04/2012 09:33 AM
Better late than never: the rollout and the launch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fFvEfbiQv8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fFvEfbiQv8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S7QIkSfucM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S7QIkSfucM)
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Danderman on 04/22/2012 09:10 PM
I've just found an old news about this spacecraft on Khartron-Arkos website :

Quote
24 Aпреля 2003

Выведено на орбиту изделие 71Х6 № 7126 универсальной системы наблюдения за земной поверхностью "Око-1" (Россия). Из-за возникших неполадок изделие в эксплуатацию не поступило.
Самое долгоживущее изделие 71Х6 № 7124 было выведено на орбиту 25.08.2001 г. и продолжает функционировать по сегодняшний день.
Начата модернизация СУ изделий 71Х6. Пуск изделия № 7128 с модернизированной СУ запланирован на 2010 г.

http://arkos.kharkov.ua/news.php?a=3

More from Khartron:

http://arkos.kharkov.ua/sutkm_e.php

Control system for spacecraft 71Х6

SC 71Х6 is orbital segment of the universal system "Oko-1" for Earth observation (Russia).
Rocket and space complex and spacecrafts 71Х6 of this system were developed by RPO named after S.A. Lavochkin.
Since the year 1991 seven SCs were injected into geo-stationary orbit by LV «Proton» with boosting stage.

Name    Product    Date of launch
Kosmos-2133    No.7120    14.02.1991
Kosmos-2224    No.7121    18.12.1992
Kosmos-2282    No.7123    07.07.1994
Kosmos-2350    No.7122    29.04.1998
Kosmos-2379    No.7124    25.08.2001
Kosmos-2397    No.7126    24.04.2003
Kosmos-2440    No.7127    27.06.2008

Satellite characteristics:

    mass 2600 kg,
    operation life 5-7 years.

The satellite is equipped by IR-telescope with diameter of main mirror of 1 m. Length of blend is 4,5 m. {this is probably focal length}

Control system allows to solve the following tasks:

    damping of initial angular rates and building of single-axis orientation on Sun;
    building of three-axis basic orientation on Earth;
    precision orientation in phases of implementation of target task;
    correction of orbit;
    checking and diagnosis of equipment with automatic parrying of failures.

Control system characteristics:

    accuracy of orientation no worse than 8 min of arc,
    angular rate of stabilization no more than 0,0001 deg/s.




Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Danderman on 10/18/2012 02:17 AM
This is the only thread that mentions Oko, so I am posting this stuff here. Someone on the NK forum visited Yepatoria in the Ukraine, and found this:

http://kik-sssr.narod.ru/p785.htm

This is probably a first generation variant, those flown on the Molniya LV. According to the NK forum, it is missing a module.

Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: input~2 on 10/21/2012 08:36 AM
Object A is now in:
35898.3km x 35932.1km x 2.27°

IMHO:
Object A = S/C
Object B = DM-2 adapter
Object C = Proton-K 3rd stage
Object D = DM-2

I would expect Object E and F (the 2 ullage motors) to show up sooner or later
just noted that the 2 ullage motors have been catalogued
38101     COSMOS 2479     2012-012A
38102     SL-12 R/B(1) 2012-012B (Proton-K 3rd stage, reentered in April)     
38103     SL-12 PLAT 2012-012C (DM-2 adapter, reentered in March)   
38104     SL-12 R/B(2) (DM-2)     2012-012D
38105     SL-12 R/B (AUX MOTOR)     2012-012E
38106     SL-12 R/B (AUX MOTOR)     2012-012F

BTW, the spacecraft has just been relocated to 166°E
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/25/2014 10:03 AM
Apparently K-2479 has failed this April after just 2 years in orbit....

http://www.interfax.ru/russia/382498 (http://www.interfax.ru/russia/382498)
Title: Re: Proton-K launch with Oko satellite - March 30, 2012
Post by: JimO on 06/26/2014 02:23 AM
Press reports say the last geosync missile tracker has now failed.

“Око-1" лишилось зрения
У России не осталось геостационарных спутников для контроля ракетных стартов
25.06.2014, 00:00
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2498665


There are reportedly two remaining sats in molniya orbits [6 needed for full coverage] and a new design geosync bird in fabrication.