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International Space Flight (ESA, Russia, China and others) => Russian Launchers - Soyuz, Progress and Uncrewed => Topic started by: anik on 05/27/2006 11:12 am
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Genesis Pathfinder 1 satellite will be launched by Dnepr rocket from 13th (Dombarovskiy) rocket division (Yasniy city, Orenburg region, Russia) on June 16...
http://www.skyrocket.de/space/doc_sdat/genesis-pathfinder-1.htm (info about satellite from Gunter Krebs)
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This is arguably the most important launch in the near future, to spur the development of commercial space!
I'd love to hear others thoughts on the subject...
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NEberly - 2/6/2006 11:58 AM
This is arguably the most important launch in the near future, to spur the development of commercial space!
I'd love to hear others thoughts on the subject...
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No, it is not. It is an important launch in the development of commercial space.
The development of commercial space occur with the first comsat
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I think he mean commercial manned spaceflight, as this is the first step in developing a private spacestation...
Simon ;)
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Yes, sorry, MANNED spaceflight. Thanks, Simon.
But the importance will be in possibly stimulating a whole new revenue stream into commercial space, of all kinds. They will need UNMANNED supply vessels as well.
Cheers,
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Is there any news from the Bigelow side of the story on the launch. Because on their website there is nothing new. For once all the news on such a project comes from the Russian side, although the Kosmotran website hasn't been updated either.
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According to http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13171475/ the new window for launch of Genesis 1 satellite is from July 4 till July 14...
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The new launch date of Genesis 1 satellite is July 12 now!... :)
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Launch succesful! - No news on the Genesis payload yet.
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This launch cements an interesting trend. This year alone, Russian launch vehicles, or launchers with substantial Russian content, have lifted off from seven different sites, as follows.
Baikonur, Kazakhstan
Plestesk, Russia
Svobodny, Russia
Dombarovsky, Russia
Barents Sea Submarine, Russia
Sea Launch Odyssey platform, Pacific Ocean
Cape Canaveral, USA
To this list will soon be added Kourou.
- Ed Kyle
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don't forget VAFB
It is only unique for this year but not in number of sites
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Info on the launch can be found at http://www.kosmotras.ru/ Hopefully pictures of the launch campaign will become public soon. I'm curious what kind of facility they have on this "new" cosmodrome.
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sammie - 12/7/2006 1:41 PM
Info on the launch can be found at http://www.kosmotras.ru/ Hopefully pictures of the launch campaign will become public soon. I'm curious what kind of facility they have on this "new" cosmodrome.
My understanding is that Yasny launch base (Dombarovsky), in the Orenburg region of Russia, is an active ICBM silo base for R-36M(2) SS-18 "Satan" (Voyevoda) missiles. Dnepr is merely "Satan" with the warheads removed. Dnepr is gas-ejected from an underground missile silo just like a "Satan". My guess is that an active silo in the Yasny field has been reassigned for use by Dnepr. I would also presume that changes at Yasny were minimal and would have involved the addition of dedicated orbital payload processing facilities.
The first suborbital R-36M2 launch from Yasny (and perhaps the first-ever launch from Yasny) took place in 2004. It probably served as a means to certify tracking assets, etc. Today's Genesis 1 Dnepr launch was the first-ever orbital launch from the base.
Since the Dnepr launches also serve as training flights for the Strategic Missile Forces, using an active strategic missile system, Mr. Bigelow's mission partially subsidized the training of Russian ballistic missile personnel.
- Ed Kyle
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From what I heard a hotel, clean room and payload processing facility have been build, which also caused a bit of delay as construction didn't go as smoothly as planned. The interesting thing is that START prohibits commercial launches from active ICBM bases, so I wonder what maze in the regulations they used to accomplish this. The reason for the move to Yasny as far as I understood in political of nature. Kazakstan isn't too happy about launch vehicles using toxic propellant, such as the Dnepr. There was even a rumour that they might be banned, maybe after seeing Kazakstan's first satellite be propelled to orbit by such a toxic rocket their opinion has changed somewhat.
I believe the R-36M2 launch in 2004 was a test flight for the Strela launch vehicle. Nothing has been heard about that LV since. The pool of availeble ICBMs is rather small as only 60 have been build and they are still rather wanted by the strategic forces.
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sammie - 13/7/2006 3:39 AM
I believe the R-36M2 launch in 2004 was a test flight for the Strela launch vehicle. Nothing has been heard about that LV since. The pool of availeble ICBMs is rather small as only 60 have been build and they are still rather wanted by the strategic forces.
This launch had certainly nothing to do with the Strela launch vehicle, as the Strela is a modified UR-100N rocket. Until now, only one Strela launch did take place in December 2003 (http://www.skyrocket.de/space/doc_lau/strela.htm )
Gunter