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Title: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/25/2011 05:38 PM
Coverage of Atlantis post flight and T&R processing - as much as she and Endeavour remain under a "do no harm" order based on ensuring they are not processed outside of a norminal flow. I have a major interview in work on this subject.

Main links of use:

Atlantis' forum section for other threads:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=3.0


L2 Members:
STS-135 Special Section:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=tags&tags=STS-135

Change the URL tag to =STS-XXX (enter mission) for other missions.

All STS-135 News Articles can be found on this link:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/tag/sts-135/

Change URL to /sts-xxx/ (enter mission) for other missions.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/tag/t&r/ - for retirement specific articles.

Atlantis' entire service history:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=25785.0

Latest post mission articles:

Atlantis arrives home to Kennedy – An emotional finale for Shuttle:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/07/atlantis-kennedy-an-emotional-finale-for-shuttle/


Atlantis into down processing after MER review notes flawless return:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/07/atlantis-down-processing-mer-review-notes-flawless-return/


Director Cabana makes emotional tribute to the Kennedy workforce:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/07/director-cabana-emotional-tribute-workforce/

Keep the faith.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/26/2011 05:44 AM
And she's still providing more items to add to her legacy:

Atlantis gifts TriDAR to Orbital’s Cygnus for ISS rendezvous and docking:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/07/atlantis-gifts-tridar-orbitals-cygnus-iss-rendezvous-docking/
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 07/27/2011 02:14 PM
(http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/110726-CrewPhoto-hmed-0150p.grid-6x2.jpg)

Here is a link to the article on msnbc.com about the plaque which was left over the cockpit screen by the crew.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 07/27/2011 02:29 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43901065/ns/technology_and_science-space/

Also points to more on collectSPACE:
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-072511a.html
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 07/27/2011 02:30 PM
Thanks, sorry I meant to put the link to the MSNC article, I didnt realize I forgot to do it.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Lewis007 on 08/03/2011 07:11 AM
The Raffaello MPLM, plus the LMC carrier with pump module, have been removed from the cargobay of Atlantis, and placed inside the transport canister.
Pictures available at the SpaceflightNow website. http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts135/payloadremoval/index2.html
I guess they will show up shortly on the KSC gallery page.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 08/11/2011 11:14 AM
FRCS has been removed, SSME's removed next week

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Atlantis Techs removed the forward reaction control system on the shuttle's nose. Engines are expected to be removed next week.

http://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 08/11/2011 01:56 PM
(Includes Atlantis news:)

Endeavour and Discovery swap places – New retirement dates planned - by Chris Gebhardt:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/08/endeavour-discovery-swap-places-new-retirement-dates-planned/
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 08/16/2011 06:29 PM
Pix of FRCS removal last week are up; T&R "activities" section for all three orbiters:
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=231
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: cd-slam on 08/17/2011 11:25 AM
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Techs will finish up preparations today in order to remove #shuttle Atlantis' main engines. Removal is expected to begin Thursday.

http://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: steveS on 08/18/2011 10:42 PM
Chris, are there any updates on the order to do no harm to Atlantis and Endeavour? Has it now been removed ?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 08/19/2011 11:01 PM
Two engines have been removed

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Space Pete on 08/22/2011 12:41 PM
Today, the last ever SSME will be removed from an orbiter. :(

"Techs will remove shuttle Atlantis' final main engine today and transport it to Kennedy's engine shop. Engines 2&3 were removed last week."

http://twitter.com/NASAKennedy
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 08/22/2011 01:06 PM
Chris, are there any updates on the order to do no harm to Atlantis and Endeavour? Has it now been removed ?
Based on this, probably:
http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/home/spacenews/files/4d41c74e138f2b8c372a9d1d9bb4601c-322.html
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 08/23/2011 03:17 PM
The last engine was removed yesterday ;-(
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 08/23/2011 11:30 PM
And images of the final SSME removal:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: steveS on 08/24/2011 01:55 PM
Regarding the latest article that Atlantis and Endeavour can technically fly two flights per year:

Can some one elaborate more on how United Space Alliance can do this? (technically).

1. Even for STS-135, there is a debate that Discovery will be used instead of Atlantis citing Atlantis was due for an OMDP etc. So how can Atlantis can continue flying without a significant gap according to the current situation?

2. Where will the boosters and ETs come from? (and on what time frames?)

3. Atlantis does not have a SSTPS capability as such it cant do a mission of no more than 12 days. This limitation was also seen on STS-135 where only a single day was added. If Atlantis is going to be fitted with SSTPS, how long will it take ?




Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: hanschristian on 08/24/2011 02:36 PM

1. Even for STS-135, there is a debate that Discovery will be used instead of Atlantis citing Atlantis was due for an OMDP etc. So how can Atlantis can continue flying without a significant gap according to the current situation?


I forgot where I learned this, but based from it, they did Atlantis' OMDP on her OPF in increments (?) while Discovery and Endeavour were prepping for their final (still hoping for a miracle that it wont be, at least for Endeavour) flights...

please correct me if I'm wrong guys... thanks
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 08/24/2011 02:43 PM
Regarding the latest article that Atlantis and Endeavour can technically fly two flights per year:

Can some one elaborate more on how United Space Alliance can do this? (technically).
Discussed at length here:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=24010.0
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 08/29/2011 02:23 PM
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Techs conduct "power up" testing on Atlantis today. They'll also continue orbital maneuvering & reaction control systems venting

http://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 08/29/2011 08:02 PM
Wonder why they are doing power up testing? What would they be power testing for?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 08/30/2011 12:06 PM
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Techs resume venting work today in Atlantis' aft section reaction control system

http://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 08/31/2011 01:20 PM
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Techs remove impact sensor batteries from Atlantis' wing leading edges (WLE) today & work thermography (heat imaging) of the WLE

http://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: MadameConcorde on 08/31/2011 03:15 PM
Isn't it today 31 August that the Space Shuttle program officially ends?

RIP Ladies.

You will forever be missed.

:-(
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 09/09/2011 02:20 PM
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Teams are preparing to remove Atlantis' Orbital Docking System (ODS). Teams expect to remove the ODS Monday.


http://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: AnalogMan on 09/19/2011 02:06 PM
Posting a summary of work on Atlantis over the last week - I've aggregated what now seem to be daily reports posted by NASA on their main website.  If folks find this useful I can post more in the future.

Summary of processing 12 - 19 September
Shuttle Atlantis (OPF-2):

Mon, 12 Sep

Expected to remove Atlantis' Orbital Docking System Wednesday.

Tue, 13 Sep

Preparing to remove Atlantis' Orbital Docking System. Removal is expected to begin Wednesday.

Wed, 14 Sep

Will remove Atlantis' Orbital Docking System today.

Thu, 15 Sep

Installing tires on Atlantis' nose and main landing gears today. Teams also will remove insulation from the spacecraft's APU system.

Fri, 16 Sep

Will flush, clean and dry Atlantis' waste system. Work to remove insulation from the spacecraft's auxiliary power unit system is expected to continue through early next week.

Mon, 19 Sep

Will flush, clean and dry Atlantis' waste system. Work to remove insulation from the spacecraft's auxiliary power unit system is expected to continue through Wednesday.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ford Mustang on 09/23/2011 01:15 PM
Friday, September 23rd:

Technicians in Orbiter Processing Facility-2 will continue preparations to remove Shuttle Atlantis' orbital maneuvering system (OMS) pods.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 09/28/2011 03:11 AM
payload canister 1 is being decommissioned and scrapped:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=24479.210
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 09/28/2011 01:17 PM
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Technicians in Orbiter Processing Facility-2 will drain Atlantis' water system today.

http://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 10/03/2011 03:19 PM
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Technicians are working on Atlantis' auxiliary power units (APUs). Teams will remove an APU fuel tank today.

http://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 10/20/2011 09:05 PM
OMS pod being removed:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: glanmor05 on 10/21/2011 07:43 AM
When is the "October" transfer between the VAB and OPF due?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: DaveS on 10/21/2011 10:36 AM
When is the "October" transfer between the VAB and OPF due?
The move is scheduled for Nov. 18: http://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy/status/124459273152503808 (http://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy/status/124459273152503808)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 10/21/2011 11:09 PM
OMS pod being removed:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9

and gone, only one remaining:

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/04/2011 11:21 PM
ksc images shows a sling on the last OMS pod

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/09/2011 12:24 AM
LAst shuttle OMS pod removed:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/09/2011 04:17 AM
image from 2003 of Atlantis in the OPF gives a good view of what she looks like right now
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 11/09/2011 01:03 PM
When is the "October" transfer between the VAB and OPF due?
The move is scheduled for Nov. 18: http://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy/status/124459273152503808 (http://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy/status/124459273152503808)
PAO says OV-104 and OV-105 swap has moved to NET January:
http://www.nasa.gov/rss/shuttle_main.xml

"Endeavour’s swap with Atlantis between Kennedy’s Vehicle Assembly Building and the Orbiter Processing Facility-2 will move from this month to no earlier than January. The delay will allow for more efficient processing as technicians finish work on Atlantis that will require power."
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 11/10/2011 06:19 PM
image from 2003 of Atlantis in the OPF gives a good view of what she looks like right now

Thats a great view, I knew the ladies were wrapped up but damn I didnt realize it had so much up top covering her
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: JAFO on 11/15/2011 04:28 PM
BTW, I traded a couple emails with NASA PAO and they are planning another cabin visit for the media for Atlantis and Endeavour next year, date TBD.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: astrobrian on 11/15/2011 11:01 PM
BTW, I traded a couple emails with NASA PAO and they are planning another cabin visit for the media for Atlantis and Endeavour next year, date TBD.

:thumbsup:
Thanks for the heads up on this  8)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 11/29/2011 10:52 PM
Photo Gallery: NASA's Fla. visitor center clearing way for shuttle arrival
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-112911a.html

Construction workers at NASA's Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex in Florida began clearing a path Tuesday (Nov. 29) for the arrival of space shuttle Atlantis, which is slated to go on display there in 2013.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/29/2011 11:13 PM
Photo Gallery: NASA's Fla. visitor center clearing way for shuttle arrival
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-112911a.html

Construction workers at NASA's Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex in Florida began clearing a path Tuesday (Nov. 29) for the arrival of space shuttle Atlantis, which is slated to go on display there in 2013.


Larger images on the KSC media page:

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A large truck hauls a full-size, 149-foot-long, space shuttle solid rocket booster, or SRB, replica from the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex as the space-themed attraction makes way for a new exhibit featuring space shuttle Atlantis, which is currently undergoing preparations to go on public display. The SRB is being placed into temporary storage at NASA's Kennedy Space Center. The SRB was part of a mockup of the external tank and two SRBs at the visitor complex that were used to show visitors the size of actual space shuttle components

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4

I take it the ET/SRB's will be retained for the VC unlike the Explorer mockup, any idea where it will go?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Namechange User on 11/29/2011 11:20 PM
I take it the ET/SRB's will be retained for the VC unlike the Explorer mockup, any idea where it will go?

Anywhere but Houston I'm sure.  ;)

We must be content with two chairs and a decommisioned metal walkway. 
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/29/2011 11:20 PM
I take it the ET/SRB's will be retained for the VC unlike the Explorer mockup, any idea where it will go?

answering my own question:

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“At this point, we are taking them to a transfer and disposal area, and they may be moving somewhere else. It's still a mystery,” said Andrea Farmer from the KSC Visitor Complex.

Dont know if it will go anywhere else though once Atlantis is in place

http://www.baynews9.com/article/news/2011/november/350909/Space-shuttle%E2%80%99s-external-tank-SRBs-on-the-move
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/29/2011 11:21 PM
I take it the ET/SRB's will be retained for the VC unlike the Explorer mockup, any idea where it will go?

Anywhere but Houston I'm sure.  ;)

We must be content with two chairs and a decommissioned metal walkway. 

Hey you get Explorer too.....
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/29/2011 11:25 PM
speaking of which:

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The mockup orbiter Explorer is expected to be shipped within a month or so to Space Center Houston at Johnson Space Center.

http://space.flatoday.net/2011/11/ksc-visitor-complex-making-room-for.html
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Namechange User on 11/29/2011 11:26 PM
speaking of which:

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The mockup orbiter Explorer is expected to be shipped within a month or so to Space Center Houston at Johnson Space Center.

http://space.flatoday.net/2011/11/ksc-visitor-complex-making-room-for.html

Huh.  News to me. 
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 11/29/2011 11:28 PM
Anywhere but Houston I'm sure.

Among the potential recipients was Space Center Houston, the visitor center for NASA's Johnson Space Center in Texas. They were unable to take the boosters and tank but will be receiving the next large item to move from Shuttle Plaza: a full-scale shuttle orbiter mockup...

Space Center Houston is amassing quite the respectable collection of large shuttle items: the Explorer full-scale shuttle mockup; a crew compartment trainer; a Shuttle Training Aircraft; the White Room from Pad 39B...

Huh.  News to me. 

First reported and confirmed in October: Space shuttles trading spaces in Houston, New York City and Los Angeles (http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-100311a.html)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: catdlr on 11/30/2011 12:07 AM
I take it the ET/SRB's will be retained for the VC unlike the Explorer mockup, any idea where it will go?

answering my own question:

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“At this point, we are taking them to a transfer and disposal area, and they may be moving somewhere else. It's still a mystery,” said Andrea Farmer from the KSC Visitor Complex.

Dont know if it will go anywhere else though once Atlantis is in place

http://www.baynews9.com/article/news/2011/november/350909/Space-shuttle%E2%80%99s-external-tank-SRBs-on-the-move

If find the above comment Strange along with the news article.  It has already been reported that Los Angeles is setting up Endevour with the Tank and the two SRB's.  So my take on this is these assets are headed west.

Quote from Collect Space
"They are right now going to the [Kennedy Space Center's] transfer and disposal area," Farmer said. "I believe they may ultimately be given to another location."

And from the Endevour Deservicing and Retirement Updates thread

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=25399.msg819842#msg819842
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Namechange User on 11/30/2011 12:11 AM
Anywhere but Houston I'm sure.

Among the potential recipients was Space Center Houston, the visitor center for NASA's Johnson Space Center in Texas. They were unable to take the boosters and tank but will be receiving the next large item to move from Shuttle Plaza: a full-scale shuttle orbiter mockup...

Space Center Houston is amassing quite the respectable collection of large shuttle items: the Explorer full-scale shuttle mockup; a crew compartment trainer; a Shuttle Training Aircraft; the White Room from Pad 39B...

Huh.  News to me. 

First reported and confirmed in October: Space shuttles trading spaces in Houston, New York City and Los Angeles (http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-100311a.html)

I tend to not keep up with where all "the artifacts" are supposedly going because they still had plenty of life left in them.  And given our current situation......
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/30/2011 12:16 AM
If find the above comment Strange along with the news article.  It has already been reported that Los Angeles is setting up Endevour with the Tank and the two SRB's.  So my take on this is these assets are headed west.

Quote from Collect Space
"They are right now going to the [Kennedy Space Center's] transfer and disposal area," Farmer said. "I believe they may ultimately be given to another location."

This display is set up for display horizontally, and would probably need major modification, plus the huge size of the ET and full SRBs would require significant transport, the VAFB tanks needed to go through the panama canal on the ET barge...
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: catdlr on 11/30/2011 12:19 AM
If find the above comment Strange along with the news article.  It has already been reported that Los Angeles is setting up Endevour with the Tank and the two SRB's.  So my take on this is these assets are headed west.

Quote from Collect Space
"They are right now going to the [Kennedy Space Center's] transfer and disposal area," Farmer said. "I believe they may ultimately be given to another location."

This display is set up for display horizontally, and would probably need major modification, plus the huge size of the ET and full SRBs would require significant transport, the VAFB tanks needed to go through the panama canal on the ET barge...


from the Endevour Deservicing and Retirement Updates thread

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=25399.msg819842#msg819842

QUOTE:
"You know they're going to display this in the vertical with solid rocket boosters and an external tank. It is going to be an incredible exhibit if that all comes to fruition," said STS-134 commander Mark Kelly."
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/30/2011 12:23 AM
from the Endevour Deservicing and Retirement Updates thread

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=25399.msg819842#msg819842

QUOTE:
"You know they're going to display this in the vertical with solid rocket boosters and an external tank. It is going to be an incredible exhibit if that all comes to fruition," said STS-134 commander Mark Kelly."

That is not this display, again this one would need significant modifications to be shown in the vertical as the replica parts were designed to be shown in the horizontal position.  I Doubt the replica aft skirt was built to support any significant amount of weight like a real aft skirt.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 12/03/2011 05:06 AM
the other booster and the ET has been removed:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 12/04/2011 07:30 PM
From SpaceKSCBlog over at collectspace:

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The ET and SRBs are in temporary storage at the transfer yard on Space Commerce Road at Ransom Road. I shot a photo this morning of the items in storage.

http://www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum41/HTML/000412.html
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: wolfpack on 12/05/2011 01:20 PM
From SpaceKSCBlog over at collectspace:

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The ET and SRBs are in temporary storage at the transfer yard on Space Commerce Road at Ransom Road. I shot a photo this morning of the items in storage.

http://www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum41/HTML/000412.html

Are those things mockups or real hardware? Meaning, for example, the booster casings are steel? Aft skirts? The tank is real aluminum alloy? Or is it something else (wood, cheap steel)? I've always wondered what exactly they were made of. I don't recall seeing attach struts or feedlines on that ET.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 12/05/2011 06:00 PM
From our article (http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-112911a.html):

"The external tank was a 'fit-check' tank, a full-size mockup, that came from the Stennis Space Center [in Mississippi]," Farmer said. "For the SRBs, the aft skirts and nose cones are fiberglass, and then for the four segments [in between], two are steel and two of them are filament."
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: edkyle99 on 12/05/2011 06:08 PM
From SpaceKSCBlog over at collectspace:

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The ET and SRBs are in temporary storage at the transfer yard on Space Commerce Road at Ransom Road. I shot a photo this morning of the items in storage.

http://www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum41/HTML/000412.html

Are those things mockups or real hardware? Meaning, for example, the booster casings are steel? Aft skirts? The tank is real aluminum alloy? Or is it something else (wood, cheap steel)? I've always wondered what exactly they were made of. I don't recall seeing attach struts or feedlines on that ET.

My recollection is that the external tank was one of three ground test articles built in 1977.  Originally painted white, this tank was apparently used at Marshall Space Flight Center for testing during the 1978-79 time frame. It may have been a structural test article.

The tank was moved from MSFC to Stennis Space Center for display purposes in 1990. In 1997, the KSC Visitors Center acquired the tank.  And now, in 2011, it may be moving on.  It would be a shame if KSC did not have a tank to display, since it would exhibit the size of objects handled in the VAB.

The origin of the SRBs in this display is less certain.  At one time I thought that parts from the cancelled Advanced Solid Rocket Motor program may have ended up in there, but I'm not sure.

Insulating foam was never applied to this tank, which is a good thing.  The tank in Huntsville has suffered from moisture accumulating in and behind the insulation. 

 - Ed Kyle
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Mark Dave on 12/05/2011 10:40 PM
Will this mock up tank get the ET/ orbiter attach struts and other hardware? 

I noticed in the KSC photos you see streaks of dirt from rain on the ET and SRBs.

I was also curious if the ET will get a new paint design so the color matches the real thing? The bands  the encircle the intertank LO2/LH2 flanges for example are lighter in color than the main color of the tank. The foam filled areas could be replicated using  metal or plastic. The aerodynamic foam ramps at the base of the LH2 part of the ET/ orbiter struts, the flanges as I mentioned before. A water proof rubber spray on seal could be molded and painted to match.

The left SRB could use that black band that goes on the forward skirt. Little things like this to match the real thing.

Will this ET/SRB stack get an orbiter to carry?

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 12/06/2011 12:53 AM
couple more images:
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 12/06/2011 01:22 AM
Will this mock up tank get the ET/ orbiter attach struts and other hardware? ... Will this ET/SRB stack get an orbiter to carry?

The ET and SRBs may not be returning to KSCVC; their future has yet to be decided. Details such as the ones you're asking won't even be a consideration until it is known where (if anywhere) the display is going.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Mark Dave on 12/06/2011 03:43 PM
Will any of the flight equipment be removed as was done to Enterprise?   Also will the concept art shown of Atlantis on display be the final look or will that change?

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 12/06/2011 03:53 PM
From what I remember they are leaving the internals mostly intact to preserve the history behind them.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: DMeader on 12/06/2011 03:56 PM
Enterprise was pretty much gutted out of useful items before it went to NASM. On top of that, most of the equipment not needed for the approach and landing tests was either never installed to begin with, or was only simulated.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: JayP on 12/06/2011 05:07 PM
Will any of the flight equipment be removed as was done to Enterprise?   Also will the concept art shown of Atlantis on display be the final look or will that change?

Most of the internal equipment has already been removed. See the earlier posts in this tread. Since KSC plans to have the payload bay doors open, the most obvious missing object will be the APAS.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 12/11/2011 06:34 PM
Explorer getting ready for delivery at the barge landing
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 12/11/2011 07:18 PM
Photo Gallery: Mock space shuttle moved to make way for the real thing
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-121111a.html

A static, full-scale space shuttle display did something unusual on Sunday morning (Dec. 11) — it moved.

Named Explorer, the 122.7-foot (37.4-meter) long shuttle replica was hoisted onto a wheeled transporter and trucked the 5.4 miles (8.7 kilometers) from NASA's Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex to a turn basin adjacent to the 52-story Vehicle Assembly Building where real space shuttles were prepared for launch...
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 12/11/2011 07:36 PM
This isnt the first time Explorer has disappeared, it is just not coming back this time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YDEamCLhU0
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: DaveS on 12/11/2011 08:06 PM
Photo Gallery: Mock space shuttle moved to make way for the real thing
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-121111a.html

A static, full-scale space shuttle display did something unusual on Sunday morning (Dec. 11) — it moved.

Named Explorer, the 122.7-foot (37.4-meter) long shuttle replica was hoisted onto a wheeled transporter and trucked the 5.4 miles (8.7 kilometers) from NASA's Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex to a turn basin adjacent to the 52-story Vehicle Assembly Building where real space shuttles were prepared for launch...

I have a question about Explorer: This is a quote from the article: "view a mock satellite inside the cargo hold".

Are you sure it's a mockup? And it is not a satellite, it's PKM cradle for the Intelsat VI that was serviced on the first flight of Endeavour in May 1992!
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 12/11/2011 08:12 PM
I have a question about Explorer: This is a quote from the article: "view a mock satellite inside the cargo hold".

Are you sure it's a mockup? And it is not a satellite, it's PKM cradle for the Intelsat VI that was serviced on the first flight of Endeavour in May 1992!

Well the black cylindrical item that represents the kick motor is a mockup at the very least, checking on L2 you can see that it is gone after Intelsat was released:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=13340.0
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: gordo on 12/11/2011 11:50 PM
They could just ship Explorer up the east cost to NYC...better exhibit for intrepid not to look after!
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 12/12/2011 12:00 AM
Are you sure it's a mockup? And it is not a satellite, it's PKM cradle for the Intelsat VI that was serviced on the first flight of Endeavour in May 1992!

Thanks. I changed the text to read "mock payload."

I've seen at least one other suggest that the cradle is authentic, and that may be possible, but I'd need a source to cite that.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 12/12/2011 04:28 PM
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: stockman on 12/12/2011 05:39 PM


is that squarish area behind the windows something attached to the orbiter or did they cut part of the orbiter away  for its eventual display?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: TheFallen on 12/12/2011 06:14 PM


is that squarish area behind the windows something attached to the orbiter or did they cut part of the orbiter away  for its eventual display?

It's attached to the orbiter. That's where a gantry was placed so visitors could enter the Explorer.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 12/12/2011 07:05 PM
That is where the Entry Gantry was for people to walk in to see the Flight Deck and Cargo Bay display when it was on display
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: mtakala24 on 12/12/2011 07:57 PM

is that squarish area behind the windows something attached to the orbiter or did they cut part of the orbiter away  for its eventual display?

actually, to be 100% clear, that image is of the Explorer, which technically is not actually an orbiter, but a mockup of that. ;)

ATTN Admins: Should we have a dedicated thread for Explorer and its boosters/tank? They are something the people would certainly like to keep track of, in one central place.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 12/14/2011 04:14 AM
Atlantis' fuel cells have been removed:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 12/16/2011 02:28 AM
and now her RMS has been removed, but hopefully another will be available for museum display

Quote
Inside Orbiter Processing Facility-2 at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida, technicians attach a large crane to the remote manipulator system (RMS) robotic arm in space shuttle Atlantis’ payload bay to prepare it for removal. The RMS will be transported to NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston for possible use on future spaceflights.

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Namechange User on 12/17/2011 04:11 AM
Atlantis' fuel cells have been removed:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9

They'll go back in.  The fuel cells are remaining with the vehicles.  They are just draining the coolant here. 
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: 10W29 on 12/17/2011 10:37 PM
Atlantis' fuel cells have been removed:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9

They'll go back in.  The fuel cells are remaining with the vehicles.  They are just draining the coolant here. 
Actually they're staying out.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: AnalogMan on 12/17/2011 11:27 PM
Atlantis' fuel cells have been removed:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9 (http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9)

They'll go back in.  The fuel cells are remaining with the vehicles.  They are just draining the coolant here. 
Actually they're staying out.

What is the reason for not re-installing?  Those for Discovery were put back after draining.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: NavySpaceFan on 12/17/2011 11:58 PM
Atlantis' fuel cells have been removed:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9 (http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9)

They'll go back in.  The fuel cells are remaining with the vehicles.  They are just draining the coolant here. 
Actually they're staying out.

What is the reason for not re-installing?  Those for Discovery were put back after draining.

Per agreement with the Smithsonian, NASA is keeping Discovery as close to flight ready as possible.  Not so with the others.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Namechange User on 12/18/2011 12:25 AM
Atlantis' fuel cells have been removed:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9

They'll go back in.  The fuel cells are remaining with the vehicles.  They are just draining the coolant here. 
Actually they're staying out.

Per the latest ESSRD that I am aware of, they are going back in at some point.  The spares have been sent elsewhere and a couple retained for STS-Last. 
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Paul Adams on 12/18/2011 09:25 AM
Looks like the ET and SRBs are going to LA as well:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/12/science-center-to-secure-space-shuttle-external-tank.html
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Space Pete on 12/18/2011 05:21 PM
Just thinking out loud here:

Wouldn't it be better to send Explorer to the Museum of Flight in Seattle, instead of the FFT? It's well known that Seattle would like a winged orbiter to go in their newly-built gallery (I heard they even considered building wings for the FFT).

Since the Explorer ET & SRBs will need to be barged to LA now anyway, if they sent Explorer on the same barge, it shouldn't cost any more money. Plus, if an open barge were used, we'd get the downright awesome sight of Explorer going through the Panama Canal!

Then, Space Center Houston could keep the FFT, thus A) saving having to transport it to Seattle aboard the Super Guppy, and B) preserving the FFT's historical link to JSC.

Just wondering if this has/is being considered?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Mark Dave on 12/18/2011 09:14 PM
There is ET-94 still at Michoud. It could be moved to KSC for Atlantis's display and also a pair of  SRBs, the real deal, not a mock up. :)

Say will a mock up replica of the Docking module that Atlantis took to Mir be part of the exhibit?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 12/19/2011 01:31 AM
Looks like the ET and SRBs are going to LA as well:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/12/science-center-to-secure-space-shuttle-external-tank.html


The et will need extensive modifications and new SRB aft skirts will need to be fabricated to support the stack weight.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 12/19/2011 02:34 PM
Photo Gallery: Rare, last look inside space shuttle Atlantis
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-121911a.html

This photo gallery starts on Atlantis' flight deck, and then proceeds to its now mostly empty middeck, out into and above the 60-foot payload bay, and then around and under the winged spacecraft...
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 12/19/2011 03:27 PM
Says Atlantis will be powered down for the final time this week?? I figured they would wait until she was put back together like Discovery. If they close the Bay Doors also, wont they have to power her back up to re open them to put on Display since KSC will display her that way? Or will they leave the doors open and move her with them open?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 12/19/2011 04:03 PM
Last Attempt to return Atlantis and Endeavour to flight in a commercial venture:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/12/next-gen-shuttle-vehicle-secret-effort-save-orbiters-ends/
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 12/22/2011 11:51 AM
"@NASAKennedy
Technicians are scheduled to power down #shuttle Atlantis today for the final time as preps for its public display continue."

I know it's been coming..... but still :(
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 12/22/2011 01:11 PM
Will they close her bay doors as well or leave them open and move her to display with them open? I know KSC Is displaying her with Bay doors open, and if they power down they cant open/close them
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: mtakala24 on 12/22/2011 02:58 PM
I was wondering about that too. And did Atlantis already have its display for media -opportunity, as Discovery did (with NSF reporters crawling inside the crew module), or has it been cancelled?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 12/22/2011 03:23 PM
...and if they power down they cant open/close them

According to NASA PAO, the doors can be closed without power (only the Ku Band antenna needs power to be stowed, and that was being done this week). Last I heard, Atlantis' (final) door closure before being moved to the visitor complex was scheduled for next year.

And did Atlantis already have its display for media -opportunity, as Discovery did (with NSF reporters crawling inside the crew module), or has it been cancelled?

Atlantis' "media day" will be in the spring; Endeavour's is next, possibly in February. Discovery was powered down for its "media day" too.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 12/22/2011 03:44 PM
So they will manually re open her doors once they move her for display I guess??
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: mtakala24 on 12/22/2011 04:07 PM

Atlantis' "media day" will be in the spring; Endeavour's is next, possibly in February. Discovery was powered down for its "media day" too.

I somehow thought it was powered... I guess the MEDS displays can be powered up separately, then.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 12/22/2011 04:14 PM
When they give the mdeia tour of Atlantis, I assume the lights in the cabin are on, so when they say power down for the final time, that doesnt mean lights inside right? Is Discovery in total dark now then or do they still do work inside the cabin so lights are still on, but then Power Down would mean the Shuttle systems not lights?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 12/22/2011 04:29 PM
I guess the MEDS displays can be powered up separately, then.

No, it cannot; what you saw in the Discovery "media day" photos are physical screen covers designed to show the type of data the screens display.

Here you can compare powered vs. unpowered:  http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-121911a.html

The top photo is with Atlantis powered; the second (large) photo is without power and the screen covers in place.

When they give the mdeia tour of Atlantis, I assume the lights in the cabin are on, so when they say power down for the final time, that doesnt mean lights inside right?

When not powered, portable lighting is used to illuminate the cabin.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: mtakala24 on 12/22/2011 04:45 PM

No, it cannot; what you saw in the Discovery "media day" photos are physical screen covers designed to show the type of data the screens display.


Oh, I didn't know that. Now, lets see how many news agencies published photos of them titled "here we have the nice displays the astronauts saw during missions" when actual displays were covered by the covers.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 12/22/2011 06:02 PM
Yesterday, techs removed Atlantis' airlock from the payload bay. The airlock is set to be transferred temporarily to Kennedy's Space Station Processing Facility today.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 12/22/2011 07:55 PM
images of the airlock removal:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 12/22/2011 07:56 PM
Also, last views of the cockpit powered up
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 12/22/2011 07:59 PM
Its amazing how scratched up and chipped up the HUD system is, when you blow up the pics that is pretty obvious and all the screens are so swirled up, etc... I didnt realize how aged all the equipment looks in the cockpits until they started getting posted up on the KSC Gallery, Alot of the painted panels seem worn, etc to in there, Expected everything even though so old would be kept in mint shape
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: DaveS on 12/22/2011 08:01 PM
Also, last views of the cockpit powered up
2011-8367 is actually after the power-down. The "active" MDUs are are just printed out screenshots of the actual displays.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: shuttlefan on 12/22/2011 10:49 PM
Also, last views of the cockpit powered up
2011-8367 is actually after the power-down. The "active" MDUs are are just printed out screenshots of the actual displays.

So the Atlantis was indeed powered down for the final time today, was it?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Jorge on 12/23/2011 02:23 AM
Its amazing how scratched up and chipped up the HUD system is, when you blow up the pics that is pretty obvious and all the screens are so swirled up, etc... I didnt realize how aged all the equipment looks in the cockpits until they started getting posted up on the KSC Gallery, Alot of the painted panels seem worn, etc to in there, Expected everything even though so old would be kept in mint shape

Cosmetic damage is not worth repairing.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 12/23/2011 02:40 AM
Atlantis put to sleep after 26 years loyal service – OPF turnovers
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/12/atlantis-put-to-sleep-after-26-years-loyal-service-opf-turnovers/
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Stardust9906 on 12/23/2011 01:51 PM
Thanks for the article, great job.  I think it’s really important to commemorate what’s going on with the orbiters right now.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: DavisSTS on 12/24/2011 09:11 AM
Atlantis put to sleep after 26 years loyal service – OPF turnovers
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/12/atlantis-put-to-sleep-after-26-years-loyal-service-opf-turnovers/

That is so sad, but I really like how the love for her comes across in this article.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: scott6428 on 12/24/2011 02:57 PM
I see that they are calling for a summer 2013 for a grand opening of Atlantis display center, will she be displayed temporarily elsewhere at KSC?  Seems that based on what I've read Atlantis will be ready before her building is.

Thanks,
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 12/24/2011 03:31 PM
Atlantis will be moved into its new display building between late 2012 and early 2013 (the Visitor Complex is targeting November 2012 but NASA had planned the move for February 2013). Essentially, the building's fourth wall will be left open until Atlantis is inside, and then erected to enclose the orbiter inside.

The building is scheduled to open to visitors in July 2013.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: gordo on 12/24/2011 08:47 PM
I guess with Atlantis she does not need her doors fully closed and latched to be driven up the road and then re opened, but Discovery and Endeavour are flying one final time?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 12/24/2011 09:14 PM
I guess with Atlantis she does not need her doors fully closed and latched to be driven up the road and then re opened, but Discovery and Endeavour are flying one final time?
No, as Robert wrote (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=26176.msg842667#msg842667):

According to NASA PAO, the doors can be closed without power (only the Ku Band antenna needs power to be stowed, and that was being done this week). Last I heard, Atlantis' (final) door closure before being moved to the visitor complex was scheduled for next year.

Atlantis is going to be moved back and forth between the OPF and VAB next year before she is moved down the road to the Visitor Complex.  She'll likely be configured very much like the other two vehicles for their stays in the VAB.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: DMeader on 12/24/2011 11:40 PM
Can the doors be opened without the strongbacks and cranes?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: JayP on 12/25/2011 01:06 AM
Can the doors be opened without the strongbacks and cranes?

No. The doors aren't stiff enough on their own to not distort under their own weight without the strongbacks. The cranes in the OPFs were actually just a counter weight system that allowed the PDUs to move the doors (otherwise they didn't have the strength to do it on there own in 1g). The PDUs normally run under computer control. I'm assuming they are either going to dirrectly apply current to the motors or they are going to physically disconect the push rods from the bell crank arms on the insides of the doors. that will alow the door to move freely.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Bogeyman on 12/25/2011 08:30 AM
I thought Atlantis will be displayed with the cargo bay doors open. Why was the airlock removed? Are they replacing it with a replica?

Greets Chris
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: mtakala24 on 12/25/2011 02:54 PM
It was mentioned in another thread that the airlock+ODS has some explosive charges for contingency undocking, that cannot be uninstalled without disassembling the ODS almost completely, so they removed the whole assembly. Having any pyrotechnic charges in place is unacceptable for any museum.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: JayP on 12/25/2011 08:04 PM
The pyros are just part of the APAS, not the entire ODS. On Discovery, the APAS was removed but the External Airlock was left installed.

From what we've seen so far, I don't think that the plans for how each orbiter will be displayed has much bearing on what equipment is being removed or installed.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 12/25/2011 10:38 PM
From what we've seen so far, I don't think that the plans for how each orbiter will be displayed has much bearing on what equipment is being removed or installed.

In Atlantis' case, weight is a factor. Based on the angle at which KSCVC plans to mount and display the orbiter, they need Atlantis to shed as much mass as possible, which, according to NASA, is what led to the decision to remove the airlock.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 12/31/2011 09:33 PM
Saying goodbye to Atlantis..

By Chris Gebhardt:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/12/year-in-review-p4-saying-goodbye-discovery-atlantis-endeavour/
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 01/04/2012 06:32 PM
Technicians in Orbiter Processing Facility-2 are deservicing Atlantis’ water coolant loop #1. Removal of the space shuttle orbiter radio and various battery backup units are also in work.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: gordo on 01/05/2012 11:03 AM
It's a shame weight is an issue, as it would have been nice to have a spacehab module in the bay, as the were a local campany to KSC.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/05/2012 02:54 PM
It's a shame weight is an issue, as it would have been nice to have a spacehab module in the bay, as the were a local campany to KSC.

Well the company still exists, just changed its name to Astrotech.

But agree about the weight issue, wonder if KSCVC will keep the payload bay doors closed if they really cant show any payloads.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 01/05/2012 03:07 PM
From all the designs they have shown, she will have her bay doors open to look like she is on a mission, will have a space back drop behind her.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/05/2012 03:16 PM
From all the designs they have shown, she will have her bay doors open to look like she is on a mission, will have a space back drop behind her.

That is what they desired, but with the amount of items that have to be removed for practical reasons there wont be that much to see with the doors open, so I wouldn't be surprised if KSVC decides to keep the doors closed.  Designs and renderings are great, but usually the finished product is different as engineering and reality set in.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 01/05/2012 03:27 PM
I didn't think you would really be able to see inside the cargo bay per say with the angle it was at, I thought you'd more see the bay doors but not really inside (They weren't planning any gantry walk ways that high up I didn't think)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/05/2012 03:36 PM
I didn't think you would really be able to see inside the cargo bay per say with the angle it was at, I thought you'd more see the bay doors but not really inside (They weren't planning any gantry walk ways that high up I didn't think)

HEre is the rendering, I guess you can't really see where the airlock would have been but you can see the rest.  Now I guess if they can support the RMS from the ceiling the weight should be negligible, but hasnt NASA reserved two arms (and Candada received another back to display)?  Also, if weight is an issue then I cant really see a MPLM going in the bay, meaning it is going to look in a sad state...... Maybe Robert can answer whether or not KSCVC will get a MPLM.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 01/05/2012 04:28 PM
Yeah I see what your saying, I hope they have her with the bay doors open but only if she can be displayed looking proud, not in some sorry dismantled state in her cargo bay
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Space Pete on 01/05/2012 04:31 PM
Maybe Robert can answer whether or not KSCVC will get a MPLM.

I highly doubt it, since numerous BEO exploration plans of late have included MPLMs as habs - and we know that anything from the Shuttle program that could be of future use is being saved.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 01/05/2012 05:19 PM
Yeah I see what your saying, I hope they have her with the bay doors open but only if she can be displayed looking proud, not in some sorry dismantled state in her cargo bay
Shouldn't be an issue on display, since the inner workings were hidden by payload bay liners during missions.  It's similar to the aft compartment -- one can't tell from outside what's behind the closeouts.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 01/05/2012 06:03 PM
Thats what I was thinking, they would just put the cargo bay flooring panels back down and it would look as it would for operational flight.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 01/05/2012 06:31 PM
Thats what I was thinking, they would just put the cargo bay flooring panels back down and it would look as it would for operational flight.
The point was the liners hide any level of dismantling, just as with the closeouts in the back.  Several things could be removed to help reduce weight for display and we won't be able to tell from the outside.  Her looks will be deceiving in some ways, because from the outside she might look like she could still fly when she rolls down the road later this year (which is likely one of the intents of the different displays).
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/05/2012 06:59 PM
webcams back on, Explorer is still waiting for her barge ride to Houston
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 01/05/2012 07:08 PM
They had one of the Webcams on Endeavour in the VAB, but now that one is gone, I wish they left it on her so when they did the swap we could see it in the webcam.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 01/05/2012 08:18 PM
Maybe Robert can answer whether or not KSCVC will get a MPLM.

My understanding is that Atantis' exhibit does not include an MPLM. Keep in mind the artwork was created before Atlantis was awarded to KSCVC and without the benefit of the additional engineering details they received after the announcement.

Regardless of how it is finally configured for exhibit, to the public, it will appear as though Atlantis is still intact, i.e. there won't be open or exposed panels (and that's true for Discovery and Endeavour, too).
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Post by: psloss on 01/05/2012 10:45 PM
Also, last views of the cockpit powered up
NASA TV is running a Video File item of this today, should replay at least a few more times overnight into tomorrow.
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Post by: Mapperuo on 01/07/2012 04:37 AM
Also, last views of the cockpit powered up
NASA TV is running a Video File item of this today, should replay at least a few more times overnight into tomorrow.


Found it on YT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFDwAQGRy04

Quite sad. :(
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Post by: brettreds2k on 01/09/2012 01:37 PM
In Orbiter Processing Facility-2, deservicing of Atlantis’ freon coolant loop #2 is scheduled to begin tomorrow.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/09/2012 03:41 PM
VIew of the airlock in the SSPF
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Post by: psloss on 01/11/2012 12:49 PM
In Orbiter Processing Facility-2, deservicing of Atlantis’ freon coolant loop #2 is scheduled to begin tomorrow.
Note that these are status updates from NASA.
http://www.nasa.gov/rss/shuttle_main.xml

Also, courtesy of Tracy Young with NASA KSC PAO, the current plan (subject to change) is for Atlantis to move to the VAB sometime around January 20.  It sounds like OPF-2 would remain unoccupied for several days before Endeavour would move in sometime around February 1.
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Post by: glanmor05 on 01/13/2012 01:38 PM
So both orbiters in the VAB at once for a few days?  Good time to visit.
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/13/2012 01:47 PM
I hope they are positioned "face to face" - amazing caption competitions would ensue ;)
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/13/2012 03:19 PM
update for 1/12:

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In Orbiter Processing Facility-2, Atlantis’ payload bay doors were closed yesterday in preparation for its move to the Vehicle Assembly Building on Jan. 20.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/rss_main_right_collex_archive_1.html
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/13/2012 03:22 PM
In Orbiter Processing Facility-2, deservicing of Atlantis’ freon coolant loop #2 is scheduled to begin tomorrow.
Note that these are status updates from NASA.
http://www.nasa.gov/rss/shuttle_main.xml

Also, courtesy of Tracy Young with NASA KSC PAO, the current plan (subject to change) is for Atlantis to move to the VAB sometime around January 20.  It sounds like OPF-2 would remain unoccupied for several days before Endeavour would move in sometime around February 1.


And Discovery is getting her tail cone on, meaning that the orbiters should be free for a while.....
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Post by: psloss on 01/13/2012 06:23 PM
So both orbiters in the VAB at once for a few days?  Good time to visit.
Agree.

I hope they are positioned "face to face" - amazing caption competitions would ensue ;)
If Atlantis were parked in the Transfer Aisle next to High Bay 4 where Endeavour currently is, then there could be some good opportunities for two-shots.  Not sure that's where she'll go.
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Post by: Furner on 01/13/2012 07:43 PM
Visiting and doing VAB tour on January 28th.  Would be cool if they had 2 in there to view at once.  Might get a better tour of the VAB as well if they have two orbiters in the VAB at once.
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/13/2012 08:37 PM
Includes STS-135 SSME info:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/01/ssme-family-sls-core-stage-role-shuttle-success/
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Post by: mtakala24 on 01/13/2012 09:17 PM
Nice article, Chris!

Some RS-25E stuff would be interesting, although I don't think there is enough info for an article yet.
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Post by: robertross on 01/13/2012 09:18 PM
Includes STS-135 SSME info:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/01/ssme-family-sls-core-stage-role-shuttle-success/

Had to log back in and say what a beautiful article that was Chris, especially this paragraph:

"However, it’s their future role of becoming part of the SLS test program which has breathed new life into the famous engines, some of which will actually gain the honor of going out in style, launching one last time with the SLS during the first few missions."

(Signed: big fan of the SSME)  :)
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/14/2012 12:58 AM
SSME is truly a remarkable engine, with performance that really is not matched by any other hydrogen engine. Any successors only look to compete on price, not performance which speaks volumes about the engine.  Great article Chris.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/14/2012 04:37 AM
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Inside Orbiter Processing Facility-2 at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida, space shuttle Atlantis is being prepared for removal of the top emergency escape window. The window is being removed in order to gain access to remove hazardous pyrotechnics from the shuttle. The window will be shipped to Johnson Space Center in Houston for inspections and a replacement outer pane will be installed in its place.

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
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Post by: Nick on 01/15/2012 10:02 AM
In Orbiter Processing Facility-2, deservicing of Atlantis’ freon coolant loop #2 is scheduled to begin tomorrow.
Note that these are status updates from NASA.
http://www.nasa.gov/rss/shuttle_main.xml

Also, courtesy of Tracy Young with NASA KSC PAO, the current plan (subject to change) is for Atlantis to move to the VAB sometime around January 20.  It sounds like OPF-2 would remain unoccupied for several days before Endeavour would move in sometime around February 1.


Does anyone have any information as to when/whether the Up Close tour will resume visiting the VAB after the move? Or how to find out?

At the moment I have a gap in my diary, and enough Virgin Flying Club points to cover the flight from the UK. I would really like to see inside the VAB, let alone see one or even two orbiters parked in there!

I saw Discovery on the pad for her first flight in 1984 and launch on STS-116, and Atlantis launch on STS-129 & 135. But I've never seen Endeavour at all...

On the other hand, it's a long way to come just to wind up being bussed to the A/B Camera Stop. Again...
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Post by: psloss on 01/16/2012 03:51 PM
I hope they are positioned "face to face" - amazing caption competitions would ensue ;)
If Atlantis were parked in the Transfer Aisle next to High Bay 4 where Endeavour currently is, then there could be some good opportunities for two-shots.  Not sure that's where she'll go.
Word is Atlantis will go in the Transfer Aisle first.  (Until Endeavour moves later.)
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/17/2012 06:03 PM
I hope they are positioned "face to face" - amazing caption competitions would ensue ;)
If Atlantis were parked in the Transfer Aisle next to High Bay 4 where Endeavour currently is, then there could be some good opportunities for two-shots.  Not sure that's where she'll go.
Word is Atlantis will go in the Transfer Aisle first.  (Until Endeavour moves later.)


Transfer aisle looks pretty full right now:
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/18/2012 02:22 PM
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Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex breaks ground today on the future home of the space shuttle Atlantis, a $100,000 million exhibit.

https://twitter.com/#!/ExploreSpaceKSC (https://twitter.com/#!/ExploreSpaceKSC)
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Post by: stockman on 01/18/2012 02:26 PM

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, a $100,000 million exhibit.


hmmm... sounds expensive....   ;)
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/18/2012 04:37 PM
Ground has been broken, expect better photos later

https://www.facebook.com/NASAKennedy
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Post by: Space Pete on 01/18/2012 05:12 PM
Ground has been broken, expect better photos later

In that photo, we can see a canvas in the background showing a CGI image of the new exhibit. Interestingly, there appears to be an ET + two SRBs standing vertical - anyone know where these will come from? I thought the ones currently at KSCVC used for the Explorer exhibit were going to LA?
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Post by: collectSPACE on 01/18/2012 05:18 PM
My understanding is that they will be replica (fiberglass) models; easier and less expensive to maintain for an outdoor exhibit.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/18/2012 05:50 PM
video of the event:

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20120118/NEWS01/120118012/KSC-breaks-ground-new-home-space-shuttle-Atlantis

Notice the rendering of Atlantis no longer has a MPLM in her bay, which we figured with the weight reductions:

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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/18/2012 06:08 PM
Updates for 1/18/2012

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In Orbiter Processing Facility-2, technicians are performing tire pressure checks on Atlantis’ main landing and nose landing gear in preparation for its roll to the Vehicle Assembly Building on Friday.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/rss_main_right_collex_archive_1.html
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/18/2012 09:08 PM
NASA.gov story/images:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/atlantis_groundbreak.html
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/18/2012 09:35 PM
No fan of this "retirement fun" - but I liked this:

"For 30 years, the orbiters have been a part of our family. We've cared for them, we've protected them, and we've watched them soar. We've marveled at the similarities between them, and the differences that only 'family' could identify," said Janet Petro, deputy director of Kennedy Space Center. "Atlantis' new home is beautifully designed to showcase her as the true engineering marvel that she is."

Top comment!
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Post by: collectSPACE on 01/18/2012 10:00 PM
NASA spaceport breaks ground for shuttle Atlantis display
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-011812a.html

The final astronaut to lead a space shuttle mission returned to his launch and landing site on Wednesday (Jan. 18) to help in breaking the ground for his spacecraft's future public display...
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/19/2012 12:54 AM
Final renderings from KSC media

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/19/2012 01:47 AM
Images of actuators removed from Atlantis

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/pdf/616043main_jan13-2012.pdf
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Post by: Aobrien on 01/19/2012 11:32 PM
Is it just me or is it looking like KSC is going to have the best display by far? I haven't seen renderings for Smithsonian but if they do as they did with Enterprise it won't compete with this. But that's just my opinion. Hate that they are being retired but can't wait to see this
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/20/2012 12:57 AM
Is it just me or is it looking like KSC is going to have the best display by far? I haven't seen renderings for Smithsonian but if they do as they did with Enterprise it won't compete with this. But that's just my opinion. Hate that they are being retired but can't wait to see this

From what we have been hearing the California Science museum may top KSCVC with the orbiter vertical with a complete stack, though both will be amazing.  The Intrepid museum will be less so, but in the final form will still be impressive with Enterprise upright like the final flare up for landing.

Smithsonian?  Yeah, pretty disappointed with their plans (ie just switch with Enterprise)
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/20/2012 03:42 AM
Also, courtesy of Tracy Young with NASA KSC PAO, the current plan (subject to change) is for Atlantis to move to the VAB sometime around January 20. 
Is this still on for tomorrow?
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 09:53 AM
Also, courtesy of Tracy Young with NASA KSC PAO, the current plan (subject to change) is for Atlantis to move to the VAB sometime around January 20. 
Is this still on for tomorrow?

I'd guess so, from the status update on January 18th on NASA.gov:

"Shuttle Atlantis:

In Orbiter Processing Facility-2, technicians are performing tire pressure checks on Atlantis’ main landing and nose landing gear in preparation for its roll to the Vehicle Assembly Building on Friday."


EDIT:  Confirmed it's still on for today, press are arriving at the press site.  The press release states an 8 AM EST roll time.  About 50 minutes to go.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 11:14 AM
VAB Transfer aisle looking full, and the doors are open (in preps for Atlantis' roll today):

EDIT:  Update, first motion is planned for 8:30am EST.  Little over 80 minutes for that.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 12:01 PM
30 minutes to first motion.  The door for the vertical stabilizer has risen.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 12:32 PM
Atlantis making her on-time appearance out of OPF-2!
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 12:36 PM
She looks much different...  much the same as her sister, Endeavour:
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 12:38 PM
Into the sunlight:
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 12:41 PM
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 12:43 PM
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Post by: rdale on 01/20/2012 12:48 PM
Livestream at http://www.livestream.com/spaceflightnow
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 12:51 PM
On the move again:
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 12:52 PM
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 12:54 PM
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 12:56 PM
Crossing back into the shadows of the VAB...
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 12:57 PM
We'll spot her shortly in the transfer aisle:
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 01:02 PM
Live, from the transfer aisle - they seem to be closing the gate?
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/20/2012 01:02 PM
Absolutely heartbreaking to see the orbiters looking like this.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 01:04 PM
 :(
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 01:07 PM
Gates still closed, but Atlantis wants to force her way through!  (Actually, I have no idea what they're doing...)
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 01:10 PM
Wonder if they're gonna back her in, that seems to be what they are setting up for.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 01/20/2012 01:11 PM
They are just wanting to show off her sexy rear!! LOL
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 01:14 PM
Gates open, they're unhooking the tug - going to back her in.

Endeavour's awaiting the arrival of her sister, possibly so they can gossip when they are all alone...  :)
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 01:19 PM
Backing up!
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/20/2012 01:20 PM
"Beep Beep. This orbiter is reversing. Beep Beep" :D
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 01:22 PM
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 01:24 PM
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 01:28 PM
Seems to have stopped for the moment, moving again!
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Post by: brettreds2k on 01/20/2012 01:31 PM
Where is this bay area in relation to the bay where her sister is sitting in?
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 01:31 PM
Crossing the VAB threshold:
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 01:33 PM
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 01:34 PM
Where is this bay area in relation to the bay where her sister is sitting in?

Endeavour is stored in VAB High Bay 4 at the moment, while Atlantis will be parked in the Transfer Aisle.  Below is a rough diagram of the VAB, found here (http://petermcrow.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/vab-diagram.jpg).  Pretty much right next to each other, but with a barrier in between.

PS:  Here's some pretty neat information about the VAB on a KSC site: http://kscpartnerships.ksc.nasa.gov/VAB.htm
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 01:36 PM
Welcome "home", Atlantis:
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Post by: brettreds2k on 01/20/2012 01:37 PM
Where is this bay area in relation to the bay where her sister is sitting in?

Endeavour is stored in VAB High Bay 4 at the moment, while Atlantis will be parked in the Transfer Aisle.  Below is a rough diagram of the VAB, found here (http://petermcrow.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/vab-diagram.jpg).  Pretty much right next to each other, but with a barrier in between.

Thank you so much, good to see that they will be parked next to one another in a sense, The last time the sisters will be together :(
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 01:38 PM
Looks like they've parked her.  Tug pulling away.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 01/20/2012 01:53 PM
Does anyone know when Endeavour will move to the OPF and why they are waiting several days before they bring her into the OPF
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 02:10 PM
Closing her in the barn:
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 02:14 PM
Fun fact, courteous of Nathan Moeller, this is the first time that an orbiter has been reversed into the VAB.

Looks like some lucky media are getting some good shots of her.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 02:29 PM
Not sure what's up, but they're playing with a purging/cooling vehicle:
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/20/2012 02:40 PM
Interesting. Maybe they don't have two portable purge units, so Atlantis is going on the truck's purge.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 01/20/2012 02:54 PM
What is the reason they need to hook her up to the purge unit when she will not be using power ever again? I only ask because once on displlay none of them will be hooked to purge lines, etc.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 03:01 PM
Looks like she's all hooked up:
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Post by: Space Pete on 01/20/2012 03:10 PM
Atlantis! What have they done to you?

Hate seeing them like this. :(
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/20/2012 03:13 PM
Two pictures from @NASAKennedy on Twitter:
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Post by: ramius17 on 01/20/2012 03:19 PM
Hmm, already got my tickets for the guided tour for tomorrow and this has me wondering how the tour will work now, with Atlantis basically sitting where you'd be standing at to look at Endeavour next to it in HB4. You can actually see the barrier and posters for the tour to the left of Atlantis. (camera right)

The lady at KSC insists the tour will still be going into the VAB.

 ???

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Post by: psloss on 01/20/2012 03:23 PM
Two pictures from @NASAKennedy on Twitter:
Guessing KSC MMedia will have something up later in the afternoon, but I'll post what I can when my camera battery has some juice in it.

The word in the crowd was that backing her into the Transfer Aisle was a first.  (As opposed to towing out forward, which has been done several times after destacks.)

Edit: ah, Nate already relayed that.
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Post by: psloss on 01/20/2012 03:27 PM
Does anyone know when Endeavour will move to the OPF and why they are waiting several days before they bring her into the OPF
Open bay maintenance in OPF-2.  Schedule still sounds a little fluid, but Endeavour would roll in somewhere around end of this month, early next.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 01/20/2012 03:32 PM
Thank you sir, that makes sense to get any work needed in the OPF completed before the next lady rolls in to have the life drained out of her :(
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/20/2012 04:57 PM
can't believe I missed that, anyhow here is work being done on her APAS in the SSPF:
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Post by: psloss on 01/20/2012 05:40 PM
A couple or three.  Everything up (in full size)on L2 eventually:
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Post by: psloss on 01/20/2012 05:41 PM
Hmm, already got my tickets for the guided tour for tomorrow and this has me wondering how the tour will work now, with Atlantis basically sitting where you'd be standing at to look at Endeavour next to it in HB4. You can actually see the barrier and posters for the tour to the left of Atlantis. (camera right)

The lady at KSC insists the tour will still be going into the VAB.

 ???


It will probably look about like today...
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Post by: ramius17 on 01/20/2012 06:13 PM
That would be amazing. From what I've read of the tour, there are a lot of obstacles in the way for any decent photos of Endeavour. If NASA allowed people to get that close to Atlantis, my jaw would be on the floor for sure.

Thank you for the pictures!

Hmm, already got my tickets for the guided tour for tomorrow and this has me wondering how the tour will work now, with Atlantis basically sitting where you'd be standing at to look at Endeavour next to it in HB4. You can actually see the barrier and posters for the tour to the left of Atlantis. (camera right)

The lady at KSC insists the tour will still be going into the VAB.

 ???


It will probably look about like today...

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Post by: psloss on 01/20/2012 06:28 PM
KSC MMedia pix up now:
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
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Post by: cycleroadie on 01/20/2012 06:42 PM
That would be amazing. From what I've read of the tour, there are a lot of obstacles in the way for any decent photos of Endeavour. If NASA allowed people to get that close to Atlantis, my jaw would be on the floor for sure.


It's more where you stand then obstacles fro seeing Endeavour, it's fenced in and you stand 20 - 30 feet or so from the nosecap, she's looking at you, so you can't get a good side shot, plus with the RCS removed the nose isn't all that appealing. If they keep Atlantis there where the tour walks in, they will walk in and see her nose and then down the side, now that would be very cool. They might roll her back by the high bay doors though, then the tour wouldn't get anywhere near it. I'll be curious to hear from anyone who does the tour how that works out. I know if I did not live 1100 miles away, I'd try to get in there. My son is down there for the Delta IV launch last night and took the tour yesterday, the tour guide said that both orbiters would be inside the VAB for 10 days then Endeavour will move out and Atlantis will go into the fenced in area.
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Post by: msc on 01/20/2012 06:56 PM
Hmm, already got my tickets for the guided tour for tomorrow and this has me wondering how the tour will work now, with Atlantis basically sitting where you'd be standing at to look at Endeavour next to it in HB4. You can actually see the barrier and posters for the tour to the left of Atlantis. (camera right)

The lady at KSC insists the tour will still be going into the VAB.

 ???



Please report back on your experience.  If you get to walk past Atlantis, it's going to be a struggle to keep myself from gassing up the car and making the 14 hour drive......

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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/20/2012 07:41 PM
KSC MMedia pix up now:
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9


Hard to see, but Endeavour is beside Atlantis in this shot:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/20/2012 07:42 PM
Better one
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Post by: stockman on 01/20/2012 08:37 PM
she looks naked without her engines and pods... and not in a good way  :(
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Post by: cycleroadie on 01/20/2012 08:55 PM
Somebody I know did the tour today. Sent this pic that she took on the tour
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Post by: cycleroadie on 01/20/2012 09:02 PM
Another pic....
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/20/2012 09:10 PM
Mainly about the rollover and exhibition...I say mainly, you'll see what I mean when you read it, as much as I've gone for balance here...

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/01/atlantis-begins-vacation-inside-vab-prepares-exhibition/
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: ramius17 on 01/20/2012 09:14 PM
THAT is a picture to get excited about. :)

Somebody I know did the tour today. Sent this pic that she took on the tour
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Lee Jay on 01/20/2012 09:22 PM
Nice article.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: shuttlefan on 01/20/2012 09:32 PM
Super article!
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/20/2012 09:46 PM
Thanks guys! :) Just felt like it needed to be said, so it's probably as close as I get to op-ed, as much as it's still very much an article.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: robertross on 01/21/2012 12:53 AM
Mainly about the rollover and exhibition...I say mainly, you'll see what I mean when you read it, as much as I've gone for balance here...

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/01/atlantis-begins-vacation-inside-vab-prepares-exhibition/

Very touching article Chris. I dearly miss the anticipation of the next mission.

I'm sure the girls will echo my comment in saying: 'thank you'.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/21/2012 01:05 AM
What is the reason they need to hook her up to the purge unit when she will not be using power ever again? I only ask because once on displlay none of them will be hooked to purge lines, etc.

I passed along the question to a friend at KSC who contacted PAO, and the response was "to preserve flight hardware that could potentially be used for SLS".
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Mapperuo on 01/21/2012 01:53 AM
NASA TV ran this video file of the transfer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bbIU16NUN0
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Namechange User on 01/21/2012 03:03 AM
What is the reason they need to hook her up to the purge unit when she will not be using power ever again? I only ask because once on displlay none of them will be hooked to purge lines, etc.

I passed along the question to a friend at KSC who contacted PAO, and the response was "to preserve flight hardware that could potentially be used for SLS".

PAO is actually correct on that.

Still very sad to see such a fine ship like this when it can be strongly argued her time had not yet come. 
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: STS Tony on 01/21/2012 03:05 AM
Mainly about the rollover and exhibition...I say mainly, you'll see what I mean when you read it, as much as I've gone for balance here...

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/01/atlantis-begins-vacation-inside-vab-prepares-exhibition/

LOVE that opening part of that article. Especially the crocodile tears! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/21/2012 04:15 AM
Mainly about the rollover and exhibition...I say mainly, you'll see what I mean when you read it, as much as I've gone for balance here...

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/01/atlantis-begins-vacation-inside-vab-prepares-exhibition/

Great article, Chris!

Current look inside the VAB, not too much has changed:
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/21/2012 03:07 PM
Hmm, already got my tickets for the guided tour for tomorrow and this has me wondering how the tour will work now, with Atlantis basically sitting where you'd be standing at to look at Endeavour next to it in HB4. You can actually see the barrier and posters for the tour to the left of Atlantis. (camera right)

The lady at KSC insists the tour will still be going into the VAB.

 ???



Somebody I know did the tour today. Sent this pic that she took on the tour


Not sure if I should put this here or in the Atlantis viewing, but with the webcams still on OTV-082 (inside the VAB), they caught some very interesting tour views.  Looks like they are standing to the left of the vehicle, by the nose in the first shot, and either under, or just in front of, the left wing looking at Endeavour (or above at Atlantis):
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Gary NASA on 01/22/2012 03:01 AM
Mainly about the rollover and exhibition...I say mainly, you'll see what I mean when you read it, as much as I've gone for balance here...

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/01/atlantis-begins-vacation-inside-vab-prepares-exhibition/

A wonderful article Chris and very balanced. The success of the final flights should never be shadowed by the mistake of retirement and you got the balance right.

I'm honored to have my quote, yes I gave permission for that, but not my name, in the article. It fits very well! :)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: ramius17 on 01/22/2012 02:19 PM
For those thinking about going to visit...  ;D

http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=9c3432b6-e638-4f15-ac02-2e4676ed9c7b&m=false&i=0:0:0&c=0:0:0&z=512.446837346159&d=2.13506249663837:-2.35869277754829:-2.76181867359678&p=0:0&t=False (http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=9c3432b6-e638-4f15-ac02-2e4676ed9c7b&m=false&i=0:0:0&c=0:0:0&z=512.446837346159&d=2.13506249663837:-2.35869277754829:-2.76181867359678&p=0:0&t=False)

I'm processing other photos I took, but this panorama does a good job conveying the view.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Albireo on 01/22/2012 03:06 PM
WOW!!! :) Thanks for sharing, this looks really great.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Furner on 01/22/2012 03:57 PM
For those thinking about going to visit...  ;D

http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=9c3432b6-e638-4f15-ac02-2e4676ed9c7b&m=false&i=0:0:0&c=0:0:0&z=512.446837346159&d=2.13506249663837:-2.35869277754829:-2.76181867359678&p=0:0&t=False (http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=9c3432b6-e638-4f15-ac02-2e4676ed9c7b&m=false&i=0:0:0&c=0:0:0&z=512.446837346159&d=2.13506249663837:-2.35869277754829:-2.76181867359678&p=0:0&t=False)

I'm processing other photos I took, but this panorama does a good job conveying the view.

How is the light in there?  In other words, what kind of exposure settings did you use?

BTW Awesome Pano
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 01/22/2012 04:14 PM
For those thinking about going to visit...  ;D

http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=9c3432b6-e638-4f15-ac02-2e4676ed9c7b&m=false&i=0:0:0&c=0:0:0&z=512.446837346159&d=2.13506249663837:-2.35869277754829:-2.76181867359678&p=0:0&t=False (http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=9c3432b6-e638-4f15-ac02-2e4676ed9c7b&m=false&i=0:0:0&c=0:0:0&z=512.446837346159&d=2.13506249663837:-2.35869277754829:-2.76181867359678&p=0:0&t=False)

I'm processing other photos I took, but this panorama does a good job conveying the view.
(In Scrambles voice: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelie_and_the_Chopper_Bunch) "Itoldja! Itoldja!")

Very nice; thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ford Mustang on 01/22/2012 04:17 PM
For those thinking about going to visit...  ;D

http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=9c3432b6-e638-4f15-ac02-2e4676ed9c7b&m=false&i=0:0:0&c=0:0:0&z=512.446837346159&d=2.13506249663837:-2.35869277754829:-2.76181867359678&p=0:0&t=False (http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=9c3432b6-e638-4f15-ac02-2e4676ed9c7b&m=false&i=0:0:0&c=0:0:0&z=512.446837346159&d=2.13506249663837:-2.35869277754829:-2.76181867359678&p=0:0&t=False)

I'm processing other photos I took, but this panorama does a good job conveying the view.

That's what I call "getting your money's worth".  Great pano, hope you enjoyed!
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: mtakala24 on 01/22/2012 04:58 PM
phosynth site didn't work for me; I do have the latest version of Silverlight but I still got strange error messages.

Tried with Opera and Firefox.

I'll have to trust you that the panorama is good :) and trust me, Silverlight is BAD.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: mdeep on 01/22/2012 11:02 PM
Here's some of my photos from Friday's move: http://www.mikedeep.com/Space-Shuttle/Transition-Retirement/2012-01-20-Atlantis-Roll-to/

To answer the earlier question about exposure settings, they were different for each orbiter. Atlantis is better lit in the transfer aisle than Endeavour is in High Bay 4. I had 1/60 f4 ISO640 on Atlantis from the floor with the doors open. Endeavour was 0.3" f4 ISO100 on a tripod (1/25 at ISO800 to shoot handheld).
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: ramius17 on 01/22/2012 11:14 PM
Thanks for all the comments! It was a great experience and very possibly once-in-a-lifetime at this point in time. The guide was great and instead of talking through the VAB portion, she told us to just go in, take in everything and take photos. No words can really describe it.  ;D

Photos are of Atlantis in the Transfer Aisle. These two photos were HDR composites, though single exposure shots are possible as well. (Single exposure settings used: ISO 200, F/5.6, 1/15s)

More photos at flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/snoopyscamera/sets/72157628989138215/with/6745518835/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/snoopyscamera/sets/72157628989138215/with/6745518835/).
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 01/23/2012 03:14 AM
Includes relation to Atlantis and her MPS:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/01/engineers-removing-orbiter-mps-components-donation-sls/
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: mainengine on 01/23/2012 06:39 PM
Any idea how long Atlantis will stay there ?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: msc on 01/23/2012 07:27 PM
Thanks for all the comments! It was a great experience and very possibly once-in-a-lifetime at this point in time. The guide was great and instead of talking through the VAB portion, she told us to just go in, take in everything and take photos. No words can really describe it.  ;D

Photos are of Atlantis in the Transfer Aisle. These two photos were HDR composites, though single exposure shots are possible as well. (Single exposure settings used: ISO 200, F/5.6, 1/15s)

More photos at flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/snoopyscamera/sets/72157628989138215/with/6745518835/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/snoopyscamera/sets/72157628989138215/with/6745518835/).


Great Googily Moogily!!

What type of insanity would cause someone (me) to make an 1800 mile round trip (fuel cost $332, various hotels $200, gallons of Mountain Dew $???) just for a couple hour tour that would land me in the presence of these two beautiful beasts, even if only for a few minutes?

.......must resist.........
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: stockman on 01/23/2012 07:29 PM
Quote

Great Googily Moogily!!

What type of insanity would cause someone (me) to make an 1800 mile round trip (fuel cost $332, various hotels $200, gallons of Mountain Dew $???) just for a couple hour tour that would land me in the presence of these two beautiful beasts, even if only for a few minutes?

.......must resist.........


Resistance..... is futile... :)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Namechange User on 01/23/2012 07:31 PM
What type of insanity would cause someone (me) to make an 1800 mile round trip (fuel cost $332, various hotels $200, gallons of Mountain Dew $???) just for a couple hour tour that would land me in the presence of these two beautiful beasts, even if only for a few minutes?

.......must resist.........

Honestly, wait until they are where they end up going for their final display.  Their state now is somewhat....sad. 
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: clevelas on 01/23/2012 08:48 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong.  But even in the state they're in, this is about as close as the public will ever get to them, right? 
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 01/23/2012 08:59 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong.  But even in the state they're in, this is about as close as the public will ever get to them, right? 
We'll be able to get in the same range when they're on display.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: ramius17 on 01/23/2012 10:35 PM
True, though it'll be a bit different. They're sitting on their own in the VAB which has been their home (or the OPFs...). Viewing them in the VAB is unique enough, but then you add in the fact that they're in their current state (not 'dummified' yet) it makes it a bit more special in my mind. I've visited the Enterprise up in DC and though it's still great, it sorta takes a bit away from the whole experience.

My $.02.

Just gotta weigh how much you want to see them at this particular juncture in time. :)



Correct me if I'm wrong.  But even in the state they're in, this is about as close as the public will ever get to them, right? 
We'll be able to get in the same range when they're on display.

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: robertross on 01/23/2012 10:42 PM
True, though it'll be a bit different. They're sitting on their own in the VAB which has been their home (or the OPFs...). Viewing them in the VAB is unique enough, but then you add in the fact that they're in their current state (not 'dummified' yet) it makes it a bit more special in my mind. I've visited the Enterprise up in DC and though it's still great, it sorta takes a bit away from the whole experience.

My $.02.

Just gotta weigh how much you want to see them at this particular juncture in time. :)


It's the tie-in with the VAB that's the overall deciding factor. Seeing an orbiter up close is awesome in its own right, seeing inside the VAB is a unique and special moment (not yet for me, and won't happen unfortunately), but married together for the days left is an undenyable experience.

I have to wait for my next visit to see her in her new home, while watching an SLS launch (or possibly an EELV). But if I lived up to 8 hours drive away, I'd make the trip in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: msc on 01/24/2012 03:21 PM
Agreed. As has been said before, it's seeing them in their natural environment (if not their natural state) that is so enticing. Will I be able to see them up close at the VC or in DC?  Yes. 

But would you rather see an elephant on an African safari, or in your local zoo? 
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 01/26/2012 06:27 PM
MEDIA ADVISORY: M05-12

NASA INVITES MEDIA TO TWO SHUTTLE MOVE PHOTO OPPORTUNITY ON JAN. 31

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Media are invited to a photo opportunity of
two space shuttles moving to different locations at NASA's Kennedy
Space Center in Florida on Tuesday, Jan. 31.

First, shuttle Endeavour will move from the Vehicle Assembly Building
(VAB) to its processing hangar, Orbiter Processing Facility-2
(OPF-2). Following Endeavour's move shuttle Atlantis will be moved
from the VAB transfer aisle and take Endeavour's place in the
building's high bay 4.

First motion of Endeavour is set for about 8 a.m. EST. Media must
arrive at Kennedy's Press Site by 7 a.m. for transportation to the
event.

Journalists without NASA Kennedy accreditation need to apply for
credentials by noon Jan. 30. International media accreditation for
this event is closed. Badges can be picked up at the Kennedy Space
Center Badging Office on State Road 405. Media must apply for
credentials online at:

https://media.ksc.nasa.gov

Any updates on the move will be available at 321-867-2525.

In OPF-2, Endeavour will undergo preparations for public display at
the California Science Center in Los Angeles in the second half of
this year. Atlantis will remain temporarily stored in the VAB.

Highlights of the move will air on NASA Television's Video File. For
NASA TV downlink information, schedules and links to streaming video,
visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/ntv

For more information about the shuttles' preparations for public
display, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/shuttle

       
-end-
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 01/27/2012 09:28 PM
MEDIA ADVISORY: M06-12

NASA UPDATES MEDIA TWO SHUTTLE MOVE PHOTO OPPORTUNITY

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- The media photo opportunity of two space
shuttles moving to different locations at NASA's Kennedy Space Center
in Florida, which had been set for Jan. 31, now is targeted for
Wednesday, Feb. 1, and Thursday, Feb. 2.

On Feb. 1, shuttle Endeavour will move from the Vehicle Assembly
Building (VAB) to its processing hangar, Orbiter Processing
Facility-2 (OPF-2). First motion of Endeavour is set for about 8 a.m.
EST. Media must arrive at Kennedy's Press Site by 7 a.m. for
transportation to the event.

On Feb. 2, shuttle Atlantis will be moved from the VAB transfer aisle
into the building's high bay 4. The start of Atlantis' move currently
is under review.

Updates on the moves will be available at 321-867-2525.

Journalists without NASA Kennedy accreditation need to apply for
credentials now by noon Jan. 31. International media accreditation
for this event is closed. Badges can be picked up at the Kennedy
Space Center Badging Office on State Road 405. Media must apply for
credentials online at:

https://media.ksc.nasa.gov

In OPF-2, Endeavour will undergo preparations for public display at
the California Science Center in Los Angeles in the second half of
this year. Atlantis will remain temporarily stored in the VAB.

Highlights of the move will air on the NASA Television's Video File.
For NASA TV downlink information, schedules and links to streaming
video, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/ntv

For more information about the shuttles' preparations for public
display, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/shuttle
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 01/30/2012 07:09 PM
Atlantis is being temporarily stored in the Vehicle Assembly Building’s transfer aisle. On Thursday, Feb. 2, Atlantis will replace Endeavour in the building’s high bay 4.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: shuttlefan on 01/31/2012 01:12 AM
Atlantis is being temporarily stored in the Vehicle Assembly Building’s transfer aisle. On Thursday, Feb. 2, Atlantis will replace Endeavour in the building’s high bay 4.

With the exception of installing her replica main engines and removing propulsion system hardware is Atlantis complete with her Transition and Retirement Processing too now?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 01/31/2012 02:44 AM
Atlantis is being temporarily stored in the Vehicle Assembly Building’s transfer aisle. On Thursday, Feb. 2, Atlantis will replace Endeavour in the building’s high bay 4.

With the exception of installing her replica main engines and removing propulsion system hardware is Atlantis complete with her Transition and Retirement Processing too now?

nope, still have items in her MPS section that will be removed for SLS, same for Endeavour
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 02/01/2012 07:34 PM
KSC PAO let us know that Atlantis' roll from the Transfer Aisle in the VAB around to High Bay 4 has moved until sometime next week.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/01/2012 08:12 PM
Related - by Chris Gebhardt:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/02/endeavour-atlantis-move-final-ksc-processing-ov-105/
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/01/2012 08:22 PM
KSC PAO let us know that Atlantis' roll from the Transfer Aisle in the VAB around to High Bay 4 has moved until sometime next week.

And here's a presser for that:

MEDIA ADVISORY: M07-12

SPACE SHUTTLE ATLANTIS MOVE PHOTO OPPORTUNITY POSTPONED

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- The move of space shuttle Atlantis in the
Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB), which had been scheduled for Feb. 2,
has been postponed due to a minor issue with ground support
equipment. A new move date has not been scheduled yet.

Atlantis currently is in the VAB transfer aisle and will be moved into
the building's high bay 4 for temporary storage.

Atlantis is being prepared for public display at the Kennedy Space
Center Visitor Complex in 2013.

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/02/2012 12:01 PM
KSC PAO let us know that Atlantis' roll from the Transfer Aisle in the VAB around to High Bay 4 has moved until sometime next week.
Interesting. Both the H/B4 and north Transfer Aisle doors are fully open right now.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/02/2012 12:02 PM
Moving Atlantis today now:

@NASAKennedy NASA Kennedy / KSC
#Shuttle Atlantis, which is still in the VAB, will be moved from the transfer aisle into the high bay later today.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 02/02/2012 12:29 PM
Moving Atlantis today now:

@NASAKennedy NASA Kennedy / KSC
#Shuttle Atlantis, which is still in the VAB, will be moved from the transfer aisle into the high bay later today.
Confirmed; perhaps around mid-day.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Mapperuo on 02/02/2012 04:37 PM
Atlantis is moving.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: stockman on 02/02/2012 04:40 PM
Atlantis is moving.

almost looks like she is trying to sneak out to the pad when no one is looking... :)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Mapperuo on 02/02/2012 04:45 PM
Atlantis is moving.

almost looks like she is trying to sneak out to the pad when no one is looking... :)

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Mapperuo on 02/02/2012 04:49 PM
Almost there..
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Mapperuo on 02/02/2012 05:03 PM
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: kcrick on 02/02/2012 05:26 PM
Just curious - how did you get the view from camera 149?
I don't see it here: 

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/

What website has it? Again, just curious.
Thanks for the photos, by the way !
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Mapperuo on 02/02/2012 06:03 PM
Just curious - how did you get the view from camera 149?
I don't see it here: 

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/

What website has it? Again, just curious.
Thanks for the photos, by the way !

http://www.livestream.com/spaceflightnow was flipping between cameras at KSC. It's a bugger to screenshot though, have to crop them manually.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: kcrick on 02/02/2012 06:09 PM
Just curious - how did you get the view from camera 149?
I don't see it here: 

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/

What website has it? Again, just curious.
Thanks for the photos, by the way !

http://www.livestream.com/spaceflightnow was flipping between cameras at KSC. It's a bugger to screenshot though, have to crop them manually.

Ah, thanks! Drats, that's blocked from where I work.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 02/02/2012 08:18 PM
Small selection from today, part 1.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 02/02/2012 08:19 PM
Part 2 (these are thumbnails, as usual)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 02/02/2012 08:21 PM
Will get more up on L2 when I get back.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 02/02/2012 08:32 PM
She looks so sad and alone :(
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: robertross on 02/03/2012 01:49 AM
She looks so sad and alone :(

Don't worry, she'll be the star attraction for years to come  ;)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: lsullivan411 on 02/03/2012 02:11 AM
Thanks Philip, great shots, glad you were still there, PAO called me too late to get over there. 
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 02/03/2012 04:33 AM
This shot shows the overhead window that has been removed

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Lewis007 on 02/03/2012 06:49 AM
video from SpaceVidsNet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mimJMCsjv18
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: gordo on 02/03/2012 10:23 PM
10 out of 10 for parking her at a little angle, so people on the tours get a better view.  Good thinking!
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 02/03/2012 10:36 PM
10 out of 10 for parking her at a little angle, so people on the tours get a better view.  Good thinking!
There may be other reasons for the different positioning, including more planned work than for Discovery or Endeavour in that location.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Zpoxy on 02/05/2012 11:28 AM
10 out of 10 for parking her at a little angle, so people on the tours get a better view.  Good thinking!
There may be other reasons for the different positioning, including more planned work than for Discovery or Endeavour in that location.

No, that was the reason.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 02/05/2012 11:54 AM
10 out of 10 for parking her at a little angle, so people on the tours get a better view.  Good thinking!
There may be other reasons for the different positioning, including more planned work than for Discovery or Endeavour in that location.

No, that was the reason.
I stand corrected.  Thanks.
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/06/2012 01:37 AM
Philip Sloss with an update on the fleet's retirement status:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/02/shuttle-orbiter-fleet-months-exhibition/
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Post by: psloss on 02/09/2012 04:54 PM
Looks like they're getting ready to level the orbiter for upcoming work.
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Post by: Zpoxy on 02/09/2012 09:41 PM
Looks like they're getting ready to level the orbiter for upcoming work.

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We finished at about 2:30.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 02/09/2012 11:05 PM
What work is taking place on her while in the VAB?
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Post by: ChrisGebhardt on 02/09/2012 11:09 PM
What work is taking place on her while in the VAB?

As reported on the news portion of the site, MPS removal work will take place on Atlantis while she's in the VAB.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/01/engineers-removing-orbiter-mps-components-donation-sls/

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/02/endeavour-atlantis-move-final-ksc-processing-ov-105/
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 02/10/2012 10:33 PM
looks like they are working in the crew cabin as well
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Post by: brettreds2k on 02/17/2012 03:28 PM
Atlantis is being temporarily stored in the Vehicle Assembly Building’s high bay 4. While in the VAB, work is being performed in the aft compartment of the vehicle to remove components that could potentially be used for future programs.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 03/08/2012 06:15 PM
Atlantis has been lowered back down and hooked to the Tug for tomorrow's rollover.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 03/08/2012 08:33 PM
In the Vehicle Assembly Building’s high bay 4, shuttle Atlantis is undergoing preparations for its roll to the Orbiter Processing Facility-1 tomorrow. First motion is targeted for 8:30 a.m. EST. While in OPF-1, Atlantis will undergo transition and retirement processing.
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/09/2012 10:43 AM
Two sisters will greet each other today. Hate all this T&R stuff, but today will be cool.
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Post by: MATTBLAK on 03/09/2012 11:03 AM
In the Vehicle Assembly Building’s high bay 4, shuttle Atlantis is undergoing preparations for its roll to the Orbiter Processing Facility-1 tomorrow. First motion is targeted for 8:30 a.m. EST. While in OPF-1, Atlantis will undergo transition and retirement processing.

Aren't there a couple of unfinished E.T.s at Michoud? (rhetorical) :(

Just sayin'...  :'(
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 12:20 PM
Per James Dean on Twitter, first movement NET 8:43 am eastern

https://twitter.com/#!/flatoday_jdean (https://twitter.com/#!/flatoday_jdean)
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 12:24 PM
walkdown complete for OV-103 and OV-104 per radio net
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 12:35 PM
almost ready to go
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 12:47 PM
PEr radio net, everything done at HB #4, going to back OV-103 out of OPF first then move -104 for nose-nose photo, ov-103 already in motion

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=705
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 12:51 PM
Atlantis is leaving the VAB:
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 12:54 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:00 PM
from NASA KSC twitter:

https://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy (https://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy)
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:02 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/alphalupi2010
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:06 PM
moving for her rendezvous with her sister
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:08 PM
 ;D
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/09/2012 01:09 PM
;D

This is where caption competitions come in! ;) Nice work with the coverage Ron.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:13 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/NASAKennedy
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Post by: brettreds2k on 03/09/2012 01:16 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/alphalupi2010

She looks so tiny compared to the VAB in that picture
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:19 PM
more double shuttle
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:22 PM
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Discovery and Atlantis come face to face. @NASASpaceflight

https://twitter.com/#!/MaxQEnt
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:24 PM
http://www.livestream.com/spaceflightnow
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:26 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:29 PM
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Atlantis entering OPF-1. @NASASpaceflight

https://twitter.com/#!/MaxQEnt
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:30 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:34 PM
video:

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The scene out here at the #doubleshuttle #nasa http://t.co/gQ8Hyunt

https://twitter.com/#!/izqomar
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:38 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:40 PM
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Seeing double!! #DoubleShuttle #fb

https://twitter.com/#!/izqomar
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:44 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 01:44 PM
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/09/2012 01:47 PM
Epic stuff.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 02:17 PM
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One shot. Two orbiters. @NASASpaceflight


https://twitter.com/#!/AstroN8
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 02:27 PM
Atlantis is still in front of OPF-1
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 03:19 PM
entering opf-1
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 03:28 PM
/Atlantis is in OPF 1, check out this image of the two together earlier
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Discovery in the VAB. @NASASpaceflight http://pic.twitter.com/wmY6oDJq

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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/09/2012 09:17 PM
a few images up on KSC media showing the move, mostly centers on Discovery:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/09/2012 10:23 PM
Many thanks to Ron for the excellent coverage of this event.

Here's our article on the events, written by Philip Sloss who was there representing NASASpaceflight.com, with additional photos by Brian Papke of MaxQ Entertainment and NASASpaceflight.com.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/03/atlantis-sister-discovery-tr-processing/
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Post by: MATTBLAK on 03/09/2012 10:52 PM
Before the three Orbiters are dispersed for the very final time; I'd love to see a photo-op of all three posed together with two spaces for a sort of 'missing man' configuration for 'Challenger' and 'Columbia'.

Imagine a 5 pointed star shape with two 'ghostly' Shuttle shapes (photoshopped) there with them on the tarmac.

Too dramatic or maudlin? Perhaps. But there wouldn't be a dry eye in the house. Maybe just an arrow-shape with 'Discovery' leading then with 'Endeavour' and 'Atlantis' just behind at left & right.

After all, this will be the last chance to do this... :(
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Post by: gordo on 03/10/2012 07:40 AM
Before the three Orbiters are dispersed for the very final time; I'd love to see a photo-op of all three posed together with two spaces for a sort of 'missing man' configuration for 'Challenger' and 'Columbia'.

Imagine a 5 pointed star shape with two 'ghostly' Shuttle shapes there with them on the tarmac.

Too dramatic or maudlin? Perhaps. But there wouldn't be a dry eye in the house. Maybe just an arrow-shape with 'Discovery' leading then with 'Endeavour' and 'Atlantis' just behind at left & right.

After all, this will the last chance to do this... :(

Totally agree, but with the T&R schedule the way it has to be, this is sadly never going to be possible.

Now if the PAO were being clever, they could park up each OV in a specific place as they leave for the final time and them comp the image together showing all 3 together as if they were.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/11/2012 12:52 PM
Before the three Orbiters are dispersed for the very final time; I'd love to see a photo-op of all three posed together with two spaces for a sort of 'missing man' configuration for 'Challenger' and 'Columbia'.

Imagine a 5 pointed star shape with two 'ghostly' Shuttle shapes (photoshopped) there with them on the tarmac.

Too dramatic or maudlin? Perhaps. But there wouldn't be a dry eye in the house. Maybe just an arrow-shape with 'Discovery' leading then with 'Endeavour' and 'Atlantis' just behind at left & right.

After all, this will be the last chance to do this... :(

I don't think it would be possible to get all the OMS and FRCS pods back and installed on -104/105 in time or to get the RSSME's on in a month even with a full workforce before the layoffs.  As much as I would like to see them, it's just not practical.
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Post by: Mark Dave on 03/11/2012 09:24 PM
Amazing article.  Too bad I don't have NASA TV anymore. I would love to see the welcoming ceremony for Discovery and see Enterprise right next to her. OV-101 and 103 side by side before Enterprise is moved to  USS Intrepid.

I wonder if Enterprise will get painted to look more identical to her sisters or be left alone?  I think she would look cool with the present day markings of the fleet. 

Soon we will also see Atlantis and Endeavour together before they go their own ways.

Will the center where Atlantis will be displayed in have any replicas of stuff from her most famous missions?
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Post by: nathan.moeller on 03/11/2012 10:33 PM
Amazing article.  Too bad I don't have NASA TV anymore. I would love to see the welcoming ceremony for Discovery and see Enterprise right next to her. OV-101 and 103 side by side before Enterprise is moved to  USS Intrepid.

I wonder if Enterprise will get painted to look more identical to her sisters or be left alone?  I think she would look cool with the present day markings of the fleet. 

Soon we will also see Atlantis and Endeavour together before they go their own ways.

Will the center where Atlantis will be displayed in have any replicas of stuff from her most famous missions?

I'd be surprised if they painted her.  I hope they don't!  Not sure we'll see Endeavour and Atlantis together.  Endeavour will fly out before Atlantis heads to the VC.
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Post by: DMeader on 03/11/2012 11:21 PM
I wonder if Enterprise will get painted to look more identical to her sisters or be left alone?  I think she would look cool with the present day markings of the fleet. 

Enterprise has her own look and her own identity and her own place in the history of the program. Don't change that, it wouldn't be right to make her something she isn't and deny what she is.
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Post by: psloss on 03/11/2012 11:31 PM
Enterprise was already changed once to look more like her sisters -- she had different markings when she was flight-tested during the ALT flight series, but the current markings have some history back in the '80s, too.  (Overseas trip, Vandenberg fit checks.)  Compare her appearance (somewhat covered up) at Dryden for the STS-4 landing to the ferry flights for the Paris Air Show the next year.

Re: another double orbiter move, it might be early to know for sure, but they'll be back to one more orbiter than available OPF bays later in the year with OPF-1 planned for release:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/12/atlantis-put-to-sleep-after-26-years-loyal-service-opf-turnovers/

Too bad I don't have NASA TV anymore.
It's available online.  Recordings of at least some of the ceremonies are also likely to be found on the different video sites afterwards, probably including NASA's.

(I'd expect to see lots of additional stills and video posted online from some of those who will attend the ceremonies, too.)
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Post by: MATTBLAK on 03/12/2012 04:24 AM
Before the three Orbiters are dispersed for the very final time; I'd love to see a photo-op of all three posed together with two spaces for a sort of 'missing man' configuration for 'Challenger' and 'Columbia'.

Imagine a 5 pointed star shape with two 'ghostly' Shuttle shapes (photoshopped) there with them on the tarmac.

Too dramatic or maudlin? Perhaps. But there wouldn't be a dry eye in the house. Maybe just an arrow-shape with 'Discovery' leading then with 'Endeavour' and 'Atlantis' just behind at left & right.

After all, this will be the last chance to do this... :(

I don't think it would be possible to get all the OMS and FRCS pods back and installed on -104/105 in time or to get the RSSME's on in a month even with a full workforce before the layoffs.  As much as I would like to see them, it's just not practical.

I'm assuming that before they are mounted on the 747, they will have replica OMS etc in place? I was taking something like that for granted when I proposed the photo(s).
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Post by: psloss on 03/12/2012 10:28 AM
I'm assuming that before they are mounted on the 747, they will have replica OMS etc in place? I was taking something like that for granted when I proposed the photo(s).
No replica OMS/RCS structures, the three flight orbiters will be transported to their display sites with their flight hardware, albeit decommissioned, and replica main engines.  As Ron posted, Atlantis's RCS ship-set is in New Mexico for that decommissioning and is scheduled to still be there when Discovery leaves KSC next month.  And given all the work in the aft compartment, Endeavour may not be ready for the replica engine installs until after that, too.  Enterprise was fitted with the ferry-worthy replica OMS pods (the ALTA pods).
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/12/2012 10:37 AM
Before the three Orbiters are dispersed for the very final time; I'd love to see a photo-op of all three posed together with two spaces for a sort of 'missing man' configuration for 'Challenger' and 'Columbia'.

Imagine a 5 pointed star shape with two 'ghostly' Shuttle shapes (photoshopped) there with them on the tarmac.

Too dramatic or maudlin? Perhaps. But there wouldn't be a dry eye in the house. Maybe just an arrow-shape with 'Discovery' leading then with 'Endeavour' and 'Atlantis' just behind at left & right.

After all, this will be the last chance to do this... :(

I don't think it would be possible to get all the OMS and FRCS pods back and installed on -104/105 in time or to get the RSSME's on in a month even with a full workforce before the layoffs.  As much as I would like to see them, it's just not practical.

I'm assuming that before they are mounted on the 747, they will have replica OMS etc in place? I was taking something like that for granted when I proposed the photo(s).


They won't, Endeavour and Atlantis will have the shells of their FRCS and OMS pods returned before they leave KSC grounds after the hydrazine systems have been gutted out at White Sands.  The replica OMS pods you refer to are the ALTA pods which have been installed on Enterprise and will remain on her at Intrepid.

Again though, don't think there are enough personnel to make it happen even off all of the components were back today.
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Post by: TheFallen on 03/13/2012 12:02 AM
Some Altantis-centric photos from last Friday:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
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Post by: Mapperuo on 03/13/2012 07:34 AM
NASA HD Video File on the move:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YySY-l0-RCw
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 03/14/2012 08:22 PM
Atlantis' payload bay doors were opened again, probably the second to last time they will be opened:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/15/2012 02:39 AM
Update on the orbiter donations of MPS hardware to SLS, with some brilliant quotes from Ms Stilson via Philip Sloss' interview on behalf of the site, and some epic hardware photos from Brian Papke on behalf of the site.

We've got such a good team on this. Really couldn't of hoped for better.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/03/vehicle-record-sls-discovery-mps/

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Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/19/2012 02:25 AM
And another by Philip Sloss, with a lot of photos from Brian Papke.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/03/engineers-preparing-atlantis-endeavour-end-tr-ops/
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Post by: brettreds2k on 03/19/2012 02:24 PM
 Orbiter Processing Facility-1, hypergolic fuel deactivation and safing of shuttle Atlantis is underway. Main propulsion system components located in the aft compartment of Atlantis are being removed this week for possible future use on NASA’s Space Launch System (SLS) program.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/18/2012 01:37 PM
Could be wrong, so correct me if I am - but this looks like Atlantis in the OPF as she doesn't have her OMS pods yet (and Endeavour does):
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Post by: 10W29 on 04/20/2012 12:20 PM
Could be wrong, so correct me if I am - but this looks like Atlantis in the OPF as she doesn't have her OMS pods yet (and Endeavour does):
You're right.  104's pods didn't go out to White Sands until Feb.  Maybe OV-106 could tell us why they didn't process them for retirement at the HMF.  ;)
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 04/26/2012 01:25 AM
Atlantis and Endeavour continue T&R processing after Discovery departure - by Philip Sloss:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/04/atlantis-endeavour-continue-tr-processing-discovery-departure/
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Post by: brettreds2k on 05/08/2012 03:12 PM
In Orbiter Processing Facility-1 at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida, technicians are removing, inspecting and reinstalling shuttle Atlantis’ windows this week. Main propulsion system components located in the aft compartment of Atlantis are being removed for possible future use on NASA’s Space Launch System (SLS) program.
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Post by: psloss on 05/09/2012 05:52 PM
Atlantis and Endeavour continue T&R processing after Discovery departure - by Philip Sloss:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/04/atlantis-endeavour-continue-tr-processing-discovery-departure/
NASA Kennedy PAO has posted some pictures of similar work that continues in Atlantis's aft compartment; now working to remove the Engine 2 feedlines.  Those are online here:
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
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Post by: gordo on 05/09/2012 07:23 PM
Wow, look at the GSE in the aft Compartment in these pictures!  Hope they save this so that if the MPS parts are not used it could one day be reinstated as part of a restoration.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 05/09/2012 08:34 PM
looking spacious with all the MPS systems removed:
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 05/31/2012 11:29 AM
FRCS replaced after deservicing

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Post by: Space Pete on 06/07/2012 02:29 PM
Atlantis' Flight Deck all fitted out for retirement. :(
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 06/12/2012 02:10 AM
View of Atlantis' aft end as preparations commence to reattach the gutted port OMS pod

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
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Post by: Overflow on 06/13/2012 05:11 PM
Could be wrong, so correct me if I am - but this looks like Atlantis in the OPF as she doesn't have her OMS pods yet (and Endeavour does):

Where did you find this webcam?
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/14/2012 01:41 AM
Not a webcam, it's pictures posted on NASA's gallery
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 06/14/2012 09:57 AM
Not a webcam, it's pictures posted on NASA's gallery

That picture was from a webcam - the rest are from NASA's gallery.



Could be wrong, so correct me if I am - but this looks like Atlantis in the OPF as she doesn't have her OMS pods yet (and Endeavour does):

Where did you find this webcam?

It cycles through sometimes on this page: http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/video45m.html

It's some of the cameras at NASA, but sadly there's no way of getting direct feeds of them unless you work for NASA.  Happily correct me if I'm wrong, though!
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/14/2012 12:05 PM
My bad, thought he was referring to the pictures of Atlantis up just a few in full color, forgot about the webcam black and white shot :)
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Post by: Overflow on 06/15/2012 03:00 PM
Quote

It cycles through sometimes on this page: http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/video45m.html

It's some of the cameras at NASA, but sadly there's no way of getting direct feeds of them unless you work for NASA.  Happily correct me if I'm wrong, though!

Thank you. NASA has done a poor job of updating their site on the progress of the remaining shuttles ever since Discovery left. I wish they would show webcams of the OPFs!

Thank godness for this thread!  :)
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 06/18/2012 05:10 AM
View of Atlantis' aft end as preparations commence to reattach the gutted port OMS pod

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9

And OMS Pod reattached:

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Post by: Overflow on 06/19/2012 03:06 AM
Awesome! Glad to see Atlantis looking more like her normal self.   :)
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 06/20/2012 09:03 PM
second OMS pod reattached:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 06/21/2012 03:49 PM
Payload bay doors closing for the last time, the only orbiter that will have their bay doors open ever again will be Atlantis at the KSCVC

That may not be a true statement. Stay tuned.

I believe they will cycle OV-104's PLBDs in the OPF one more time to install the mockup airlock.


What mockup airlock? I have not heard of such a thing...
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Post by: Overflow on 06/21/2012 05:15 PM
I've heard of Endeavour having a mock up airlock (I don't know how true this is.), but not Atlantis.

I would think that they'd keep the real one in since Atlantis will have her payload bay doors open.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/21/2012 05:56 PM
If I remember correctly they removed the airlock from Atlantis already as well.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 06/21/2012 06:26 PM
I would think that they'd keep the real one in since Atlantis will have her payload bay doors open.
They are not, the display that will hang Atlantis requires her to undergo a severe weight reduction program, and as you can see from the top of the previous page the airlock has already been removed.
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Post by: Overflow on 06/25/2012 02:21 AM
I would think that they'd keep the real one in since Atlantis will have her payload bay doors open.
They are not, the display that will hang Atlantis requires her to undergo a severe weight reduction program, and as you can see from the top of the previous page the airlock has already been removed.

Ah, I see.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/25/2012 12:15 PM
In Orbiter Processing Facility-1 at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida, technicians completed the re-installation of shuttle Atlantis’ orbital maneuvering system, or OMS, pods last week. The OMS provided the shuttle with thrust for orbit insertion, rendezvous and deorbit. Atlantis’ Replica Shuttle Main Engines are scheduled to be installed this  week.
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Post by: Davejfb on 06/25/2012 07:53 PM
I can't find any information about the progress about the building of Atlantis new home at the KSCVC. Anyone has more information  or where i can follow the buidling?
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Post by: collectSPACE on 06/25/2012 08:20 PM
There are recent photos here:
http://spaceksc.blogspot.com/2012/06/orbiter-atlantis-museum-update.html
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/26/2012 12:04 PM
They are making great progress it seems.
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Post by: Davejfb on 06/26/2012 04:02 PM
There are recent photos here:
http://spaceksc.blogspot.com/2012/06/orbiter-atlantis-museum-update.html


Thanks Robert! Do you know if the opening of the building with Atlantis is targeted for the beginning of July 2013 or at the end of that month (because i plane my trip to so Atlantis)?
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Post by: Overflow on 06/26/2012 05:51 PM
There are recent photos here:
http://spaceksc.blogspot.com/2012/06/orbiter-atlantis-museum-update.html

Thanks for posting this! I was also wondering about the progress of Atlantis' new home.
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Post by: TheFallen on 06/26/2012 06:03 PM
Atlantis with RSME #1 now installed

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 06/26/2012 09:10 PM
RSME #2 was installed today:
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 06/27/2012 01:23 AM
All 3 now installed, she rolls to the VAB friday.

What happens to that OPF after Friday? Why not keep Atlantis in there longer?
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Post by: Skylon on 06/27/2012 02:19 AM
Is it my imagination or do Atlantis' RSME's look a bit more authentic, and "used" than the ones Discovery received?
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Post by: astrobrian on 06/27/2012 05:51 AM
Is it my imagination or do Atlantis' RSME's look a bit more authentic, and "used" than the ones Discovery received?
They do indeed, I almost did a double take thinking we were getting ready for flight again........
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/27/2012 12:16 PM
Yeah I noticed that right away, seems they got the process down better on these.
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Post by: jacqmans on 06/27/2012 01:48 PM
MEDIA ADVISORY: M30-12

NASA INVITES MEDIA TO SHUTTLE ATLANTIS' MOVE TO VAB

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Media are invited to a photo opportunity as
space shuttle Atlantis moves from its processing hangar to the
Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) on June 29 at NASA's Kennedy Space
Center in Florida. Atlantis is scheduled to move at about 9:30 a.m.
EDT. Media must arrive at Kennedy's Press Site by 8 a.m. for
transportation to the event.

Journalists without NASA Kennedy accreditation need to apply for
credentials by close of business Thursday, June 28. International
media accreditation for this event is closed. Badges may be picked up
at the Kennedy Space Center Badging Office on State Road 405. Media
must apply for credentials online at:

https://media.ksc.nasa.gov

Any updates on the move will be available at 321-867-2525.

Inside the VAB, Atlantis will temporarily be stored while shuttle
Endeavour undergoes transition and retirement processing. Atlantis is
being prepared for public display at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor
Complex in 2013.

For more information about the shuttles' preparations for public
display, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/transition
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 06/27/2012 02:45 PM
Gotcha, so why even move Atlantis out if they are not done with her yet?

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There still remains the possibility that Atlantis will have to vacate OPF-1 for a new customer later in the summer and go back to the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) again.

“(Atlantis) may have to go there for storage at the end, (but) we’re actually going to extend (Atlantis’ stay in OPF-1) one additional month – we’ve got that leverage,” added Mr Pannullo. If Atlantis does have to go back to the VAB, “(we’re) tracking to end of July, first (part) of August for that.

Click here for additional T&R Articles: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/tag/tr/

“If we turn the OPF over to another customer, we’d put Atlantis in the VAB until Endeavour rolls to the MDD (Mate Demate Device). And right now that’s a planned date of September 18th with a (ferry departure on) the 20th. We’re still tracking to our (target) date and everything is going really well.”

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/04/atlantis-endeavour-continue-tr-processing-discovery-departure/
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/27/2012 03:56 PM
Thank you very much. Has the first OPF that was vacated been cleared out yet of all the equipment? I wonder how long it takes to deconstruct all the equipment in the OPF's and empty them out.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 06/27/2012 06:18 PM
OPF-3 updates have been posted on L2 in some large construction updates, this one starts March 23 onwards and covers everything under construction/demolition/renovation:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=28446.0
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Post by: TheFallen on 06/27/2012 08:25 PM
Atlantis has all 3 RSMEs installed

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
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Post by: shuttlefan on 06/28/2012 12:54 AM
Will they have to install the replica heatshilds around the RSMEs before they move her to the VAB Fri.?
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/28/2012 02:32 AM
And a short article to mark this:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/06/atlantis-readied-for-vab-opf-1-transition/
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Post by: DMeader on 06/28/2012 12:38 PM
Will they have to install the replica heatshilds around the RSMEs before they move her to the VAB Fri.?

What do you mean "replica"? AFAIK everything except the RSSME is flight hardware.
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Post by: robertross on 06/29/2012 01:18 AM
Will they have to install the replica heatshilds around the RSMEs before they move her to the VAB Fri.?

What do you mean "replica"? AFAIK everything except the RSSME is flight hardware.

Don't forget the OMS pods, Main Propulsion System plumbing,...
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Post by: FinalFrontier on 06/29/2012 01:43 AM
second OMS pod reattached:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9

So, no OMS engines being kept on Atlantis that was only for Discovery?

Or are they (or mockups) yet to be installed?
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Post by: DMeader on 06/29/2012 01:49 AM
Will they have to install the replica heatshilds around the RSMEs before they move her to the VAB Fri.?

What do you mean "replica"? AFAIK everything except the RSSME is flight hardware.

Don't forget the OMS pods, Main Propulsion System plumbing,...

I meant all of the hardware that remains is flight hardware. RSSME (and I suppose OMS nozzles) is all that I've heard of being mocked up.

Don't get me started on all the stuff they've stripped out.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 06/29/2012 02:14 AM

So, no OMS engines being kept on Atlantis that was only for Discovery?

Or are they (or mockups) yet to be installed?

They will probably add them later, the OMS nozzles were only attached to Discovery after she was in the Udvar-Hazy display. Don't know if Atlantis will get them before she rolls to the VC or not, but Endeavour will have hers put on in LA.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 06/29/2012 01:32 PM
https://twitter.com/izqomar (https://twitter.com/izqomar)
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 06/29/2012 02:24 PM
a couple more
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/29/2012 02:26 PM
Does she have her rear engine heat shields back on around the RSME's?
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 06/29/2012 02:43 PM
https://www.facebook.com/NASAKennedy
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Post by: TheFallen on 06/29/2012 08:24 PM
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
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Post by: Mapperuo on 06/30/2012 01:33 AM
NASA HD Video file of the move:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST49UAENv20
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Post by: Overflow on 07/01/2012 01:55 AM
Will they keep the yellow assist bars on Atlantis until she is in her new home since they have to open her doors once again?
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Post by: GBCT#5 on 07/02/2012 01:30 AM
Thought this was an interesting view. Had to add a filter effect, the light was so bright on the outside of the highbay and it came out with this view.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 07/02/2012 12:34 PM
visible on webcam
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Post by: brettreds2k on 07/02/2012 01:47 PM
Did they clean Atlantis up or replace alot of thermal blankets on her? When you look at her rollover Friday, she looks so pristine and white without any battle scars of reentry it seems, where Discovery shows her reentry scars proudly and it is very visible on her front, around the hatch and up her body
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Post by: psloss on 07/02/2012 02:08 PM
Did they clean Atlantis up or replace alot of thermal blankets on her? When you look at her rollover Friday, she looks so pristine and white without any battle scars of reentry it seems, where Discovery shows her reentry scars proudly and it is very visible on her front, around the hatch and up her body
No special cleanups; bright light washes that out in imagery.  (Contrast and other camera settings can do the same in different light.)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 07/02/2012 02:59 PM
Gotcha, one thing that gives them the personality is the wear and tear of reentry so in those pictures she looked so clean...lol, where as Discovery in outside rollover shots still always looked like the girl with the most abuse
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 07/10/2012 03:22 PM
Per KSC VC's website, Atlantis is scheduled to be rolled to her new home on Friday, November 2 - http://kennedyspacecenter.com/event.aspx?id=5270bbe4-2c8f-4fb9-9080-85f8f5ac1f52&calendar=2012/11/0/
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Post by: Orbiter on 07/10/2012 03:34 PM
I thought it was on February 1st?

Orbiter
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Post by: Space Pete on 07/10/2012 03:41 PM
I thought it was on February 1st?

Orbiter

I believe February 1st 2013 (10th anniversary of Columbia) is when the Atlantis exhibit officially opens to the public?
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Post by: nathan.moeller on 07/10/2012 03:46 PM
I thought it was on February 1st?

Orbiter

I believe February 1st 2013 (10th anniversary of Columbia) is when the Atlantis exhibit officially opens to the public?

February 1, 2013 was an extremely tentative rollover date that got tossed around a bit last year.  It was noted a while back that it would be November 2012 and now we're seeing an actual day.  The exhibit is scheduled to open in July 2013.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 07/10/2012 06:38 PM
Yeah they are rolling her in once 3 walls are up, then once she is inside they will build the remaining 4th wall on the building. I wonder how they will protect her from the element and construction dust, etc while a wall is built once rolled in there.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: simpl simon on 07/13/2012 03:27 PM
Did they clean Atlantis up or replace alot of thermal blankets on her? When you look at her rollover Friday, she looks so pristine and white without any battle scars of reentry it seems, where Discovery shows her reentry scars proudly and it is very visible on her front, around the hatch and up her body
I was in the VAB last Monday and able to walk all around and under Atlantis. Up close the wear and tear is very evident - especially replaced insulation blankets, and various signs of re-entry heating. A surprising amount of gap-filler between the tiles was missing, perhaps indicating the tiles had been replaced after the final mission. All-in-all she looked very much hand-made, and somehow fragile.
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Post by: robertross on 07/20/2012 04:10 PM
I thought this might interest people, in case they intent to visit. I just received it via e-mail from KSC-VC:

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For the first time in 50 years, NASA is opening its gates to public visitors to tour the main launch pad. The new KSC Up-Close: Launch Pad Tour, the latest to open of the three special behind-the-scenes tours, takes visitors from Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex to the inside of Launch Pad 39-A, the location of space shuttle and Apollo Saturn V moon rocket launches.

The tour travels nearly a quarter-mile within the perimeter security fence of Launch Pad 39-A. Visitors can enjoy close views of the 350-foot-high fixed service structure, rotating service structure, propellant storage containers, water tanks, flame trench and other aspects of the launch pad complex. The highlight of the tour is the photo opportunity during the stop at the pad. The tour also includes drive-by views of Launch Pad 39-B, the Vehicle Assembly Building, mobile launch platforms and culminates at the Apollo/Saturn V Center.

This tour is offered for a limited time only!


Also:
Quote
See Atlantis Up-Close!
Celebrate the "Year of Atlantis" with a firsthand look of the orbiter.
For a limited time, visitors who take the special behind-the-scenes tour of the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) have an opportunity to get an up-close view of space shuttle Atlantis. On November 2, space shuttle Atlantis rolls over to Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex as part of the "Atlantis Homecoming: The Celebration." Click here for more information. 
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Post by: Aobrien on 07/25/2012 06:27 PM
Looking at the other thread for Endeavour I can't believe no one posted pictures of the building being built for Atlantis. They are posted to here:
http://kennedyspacecenter.com/atlantis.aspx

They even post them every 5 min to create a good time lapse.
Maybe I just missed it

First picture is when the project started on April 14
The second is from today
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Post by: robertross on 07/25/2012 06:29 PM
Looking at the other thread for Endeavour I can't believe no one posted pictures of the building being built for Atlantis. They are posted to here:
http://kennedyspacecenter.com/atlantis.aspx

They even post them every 5 min to create a good time lapse.
Maybe I just missed it

First picture is when the project started on April 14
The second is from today

Wow, looking beautiful. All the more reason to go back and visit KSC!  :)
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Post by: Aobrien on 08/04/2012 01:30 AM
Dreams came true today. Finally took the drive over to Kennedy Space Center and took the up clos VAB tour. All I can say is it was amazing. Getting go inside the VAB was incredible and I can't even explain it. Then getting to see Atlantis 10ft in front of me for the first time was something I can't even explain. I loved every moment of it. While on the bus we even got a special surprise to which you'll see in the Endeavour thread. Here are my pictures
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Post by: jacqmans on 08/10/2012 06:01 PM
MEDIA ADVISORY: M45-12

NASA INVITES MEDIA TO VIEW KENNEDY SPACE CENTER SHUTTLE SWAP

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Media are invited to a photo opportunity at
approximately 8:30 a.m. EDT on Thursday, Aug. 16, as space shuttles
Endeavour and Atlantis switch locations at NASA's Kennedy Space
Center, Fla.

After Endeavour is backed out of Orbiter Processing Facility-2 (OPF-2)
and Atlantis is moved out of the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB),
both shuttles briefly will stop outside of OPF-2 for a "nose-to-nose"
photo opportunity.

Media must arrive at Kennedy's Press Site by 7:30 a.m. for
transportation to the event.

Journalists without NASA Kennedy accreditation need to apply for
credentials by noon, Aug. 15. International media accreditation for
this event is closed. Badges may be picked up at the Kennedy Space
Center Badging Office on State Road 405. Media must apply for
credentials online at:

https://media.ksc.nasa.gov

The move will mark the final time that Endeavour will roll out of an
OPF, temporarily moving into the VAB until September. Endeavour is
targeted to depart Kennedy atop the NASA Shuttle Carrier Aircraft in
mid-September and fly to Los Angeles International Airport. In
mid-October, it will be moved to the California Science Center for
permanent public display.

In OPF-2, Atlantis will undergo preparations for its move to the
Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex in November. There, a grand
opening is planned for Atlantis' new home in July 2013.

For more information about the shuttles' preparations for public
display, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/shuttle

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Post by: Ford Mustang on 08/16/2012 01:07 PM
Atlantis is now out of the VAB and on the way to OPF-1.
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Post by: rdale on 08/16/2012 01:20 PM
http://twitter.com/apacheman/status/236088895656296448/photo/1/large
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 08/16/2012 01:49 PM
Shuttle meeting! :)

http://twitter.com/NASAKennedy/status/236095813238009857/photo/1
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 08/16/2012 08:08 PM
Philip Sloss with the article, quotes and photos from today's meeting between Endeavour and Atlantis! Lots of good info in this:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/08/endeavour-atlantis-bid-farewell-at-ksc/
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 08/16/2012 08:47 PM
view of Atlantis in the opf:

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Post by: Chris Bergin on 08/17/2012 09:50 AM
Epic! :)

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Post by: Overflow on 08/17/2012 01:37 PM
That's awesome that they're showing Atlantis in OPF-2! So cool!
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 08/21/2012 11:10 PM
NASA posted more images, the last time an orbiter will enter an OPF......  :(

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
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Post by: danduc on 08/23/2012 01:02 PM
Will Atlantis stay in the OPF until her move to the new display area in 2013 or will Nasa tow it to the VAB again?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 08/23/2012 01:09 PM
Will Atlantis stay in the OPF until her move to the new display area in 2013 or will Nasa tow it to the VAB again?
The latter.  (Nit: it's OPF/NASA/VAB, not Opf/Nasa/Vab.)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: danduc on 08/23/2012 01:38 PM
Any chance of seeing Atlantis in the VAB mid-october?? I'd love to, I'm in Florida then :-)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 08/23/2012 01:49 PM
Any chance of seeing Atlantis in the VAB mid-october?? I'd love to, I'm in Florida then :-)
Someone else here might know, but probably best to check with the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex to see if they will be touring the VAB during that time:
http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/
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Post by: danduc on 08/23/2012 01:58 PM
Sent them an email but from their web site it would be unlikely they would do OPF-VAB-KSC in such a short time. IMO it would be OPF-KSC.

"On November 2, 2012, space shuttle Atlantis is scheduled to roll over to Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex for permanent display as part of the "Atlantis - Celebrate the Journey" event. This will be a special-ticketed event. General admission purchased for November 2 will not be valid. "
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 08/23/2012 05:45 PM
Atlantis is planned to move back to the VAB in mid-October. The Nov. 2 delivery date to the KSCVC is tentative.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 08/25/2012 10:31 PM
Is anyone going to make it to the "Atlantis-Celebrate the Journey" event?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Sarah on 08/28/2012 08:59 PM
Is anyone going to make it to the "Atlantis-Celebrate the Journey" event?

Yes, I am going unless the rollover date changes drastically.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 08/31/2012 07:22 PM
Is anyone going to make it to the "Atlantis-Celebrate the Journey" event?

Yes, I am going unless the rollover date changes drastically.

Sweet! Take pictures please!
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 08/31/2012 07:23 PM
Is anyone else getting tired of waiting for pictures/updates about Atlantis?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 09/01/2012 12:04 PM
Is anyone else getting tired of waiting for pictures/updates about Atlantis?
No, because just about everything has changed from a few years ago.  Relatively speaking, the latest information is recent -- only two weeks ago.
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Post by: spacecane on 09/05/2012 06:45 PM
Has the Atlantis crew cabin hatch been closed for good yet?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Rocket Guy on 09/05/2012 07:34 PM
No it has not.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 09/05/2012 09:37 PM
Quote
At NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida, United Space Alliance technicians prepare a mock air lock for installation in the payload bay of the space shuttle Atlantis in Bay 2 of the Orbiter Processing Facility.

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 09/05/2012 09:45 PM
Atlantis' new home has been topped out:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: danduc on 09/06/2012 12:38 PM
Got this message this week about Atlantis.

"Thank you for your interest in the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex,
The shuttle Atlantis is scheduled to go back into the VAB October 11 thru November 2.  Hope this helps you plan your visit.  If you have any other questions, please let me know.
Best Regards,, Kennedy Visitor Centre"


I'll be there Oct. 15 or 16.

Dan
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 09/10/2012 09:43 PM
the heat shields around Atlantis' RSSME's was installed, and her nose landing gear was closed

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Space Pete on 09/10/2012 09:58 PM
And that was the last ever time that Atlantis' landing gear will see daylight. :(
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 09/10/2012 10:08 PM
And that was the last ever time that Atlantis' landing gear will see daylight. :(

Its just a landing gear functional test.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: robertross on 09/13/2012 12:56 AM
I received this today (unfortunately I can't afford the trip, but hope it can help some others on here):

Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex welcomes space shuttle Atlantis
 
You're invited to be part of the once-in-a-lifetime Atlantis - Celebrate the Journey event, Friday, November 2, as Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex welcomes space shuttle Atlantis home. Atlantis is making its 10-mile rolling journey from the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) to the Visitor Complex atop the Orbiter Transportation System (OTS). The move will conclude at the new $100-million permanent home under construction for the orbiter. Its new home is set to open next summer.

Highlight of this day-long event includes a three-hour stop at Exploration Park where guests have the opportunity for 360-degree photographs with Atlantis. Additional activities include a NASA celebration ceremony, interactive exhibits promoting the history and future of spaceflight, and displays of spaceflight hardware from past, current and future programs. Exhibitors scheduled to attend include NASA, The Boeing Company, Sierra Nevada Corporation, SpaceX and XCOR Aerospace.

Atlantis - Celebrate the Journey Ticket Opportunity Process: This event requires a special ticket purchase and is considered a blackout day for annual passholders. Tickets go on sale Tuesday, September 18, 2012, at 9 a.m. ET via a link placed on the website. Tickets remain on sale while supplies last. Guests who plan to attend the event need to purchase tickets through the ticket opportunity process. Tickets cannot be purchased by phone.

 
Atlantis - Celebrate the Journey Ticket Packages

Atlantis Adventure Package
Includes Admission, KSC Up-Close: Launch Pad Tour and Exploration Park Event Ticket (including transportation)
Price: $115 plus tax per adult guest

Explorer Package
Admission and Exploration Park Event Ticket (including transportation)
Price: $90 plus tax per adult guest

Lift-off Package
Admission and KSC Up-Close: Launch Pad Tour
Price: $75 plus tax per adult guest

Rollover Package
Admission only
Price: $50 plus tax per adult guest
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: danduc on 09/13/2012 11:35 AM
Just received this from the visitor center.

"Good Afternoon, Atlantis is scheduled to be in the VAB now from October 16 to November 1."

They change the date from Oct. 15 to Oct. 16.


Cheers,

Dan
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 09/13/2012 08:41 PM
Just received this from the visitor center.

"Good Afternoon, Atlantis is scheduled to be in the VAB now from October 16 to November 1."

They change the date from Oct. 15 to Oct. 16.


Cheers,

Dan

Thanks for the update!
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 09/14/2012 01:54 AM
various images of Atlantis work in the next posts, for some reason the ET umbilical doors were removed:

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 09/14/2012 01:55 AM
an OMS engine nozzle was installed (dont have to worry about it during ferry)

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 09/14/2012 01:56 AM
and payload bay work on mock tv cameras and airlock

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ford Mustang on 09/14/2012 10:54 PM
MEDIA ADVISORY: 52-12

NASA INVITES MEDIA TO SPACE SHUTTLE ATLANTIS TOUR OCT. 3

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- On Oct. 3, media interested in space shuttle
Atlantis are invited to interview and photo opportunities inside
Orbiter Processing Facility-2 at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in
Florida. Experts will be available for interviews around the outside
of Atlantis and inside the shuttle's crew compartment.

A limited number of time slots will be available throughout the
morning and mid-afternoon. To accommodate as many journalists as
possible, media organizations will be limited to one person per
organization for a slot, with a maximum of two people, a reporter and
videographer, for television media. NASA intends to first accommodate
media who did not take part in the Discovery or Endeavour tours in
June 2011 and March 2012, respectively.

To participate, international and U.S. media must email Tracy Young at
[email protected] by close of business on Wednesday, Sept. 19.
Media will be contacted about available time slots by close of
business on Sept. 20. Upon confirmation of an available time slot,
media then will need to apply online for Kennedy credentials at:

https://media.ksc.nasa.gov 

Atlantis' last spaceflight was the STS-135 mission in July 2011. It is
being prepared for public display at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor
Complex and is scheduled to roll over to the complex on Nov. 2. The
Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex is targeting a July 2013 grand
opening for Atlantis' new home.

For more information about the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex,
visit:

http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com

For more information about NASA's space shuttle transition and
retirement activities, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/transition

   
-end-
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: stuart_wildcat on 09/16/2012 03:54 PM
I was just out at the Visitor Center and took the VAB tour to see Endeavour on her last day ever in the VAB.  On the way back I was wondering about the route Atlantis might take to rollover to the Visitor Center because the ramp that is the direct route between the two major roads involved tilts quite a bit and I figured there is no way they were going that way.

Looking at the announcement of the Visitor Center event for "Celebrate the Journey" rollover day they mention being stopped in "Exploration Park" for photos.  It looks like this is part of the industrial area so this got me thinking even more about the route they would take.

Attached is my guess of the route she will take to get over there.  Any info on the official route, especially the place they will be parking her for a few hours, would be appreciated.
[EDIT: I removed the attachment so it won't be mistaken for the actual route]

This is the URL of the Google map I used if you want to take your own guess.
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Nasa+Pkwy+W&daddr=28.5161828,-80.665698+to:28.5166302,-80.6532966+to:Kennedy+Pkwy+N&hl=en&ll=28.521193,-80.659089&spn=0.023567,0.027595&sll=28.518779,-80.657887&sspn=0.023568,0.027595&geocode=FZZGswEdRO8w-w%3BFVYfswEdniMx-ylFl5wKyK_giDH794HpE_qjTw%3BFRYhswEdEFQx-ymjnX1f6q_giDGbS6Q28pgRlw%3BFVAwtAEdPkcx-w&t=h&mra=dpe&mrsp=2&sz=15&via=1,2&z=15 (https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Nasa+Pkwy+W&daddr=28.5161828,-80.665698+to:28.5166302,-80.6532966+to:Kennedy+Pkwy+N&hl=en&ll=28.521193,-80.659089&spn=0.023567,0.027595&sll=28.518779,-80.657887&sspn=0.023568,0.027595&geocode=FZZGswEdRO8w-w%3BFVYfswEdniMx-ylFl5wKyK_giDH794HpE_qjTw%3BFRYhswEdEFQx-ymjnX1f6q_giDGbS6Q28pgRlw%3BFVAwtAEdPkcx-w&t=h&mra=dpe&mrsp=2&sz=15&via=1,2&z=15)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 09/16/2012 04:39 PM
Attached is my guess of the route she will take to get over there.  Any info on the official route, especially the place they will be parking her for a few hours, would be appreciated.
SFN ran a story already, shouldn't be hard to find.  (Ben Cooper tweeted it, too, IIRC.)
http://mobile.twitter.com/LaunchPhoto/status/243525633945268224

(They're going around on Space Commerce.)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: GBCT#5 on 09/16/2012 04:43 PM

The OTS Crew were told that the orbiter will not turn back north onto SR 3. The path will cut thru Ransom Road or the Facility just north of Ransom to get to Commerce way, then back to the VIC, making a sharp right hand turn into the new display building.

That was last week. This week, who knows?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: robertross on 09/17/2012 11:14 PM
As a reminder, tickets for the Atlantis - Celebrate the Journey event will be placed on sale tomorrow, September 18, at 9 a.m. ET. Guests will enter a virtual waiting room to be selected at random to purchase tickets. Entry time into the waiting room does not effect the probability of being randomly selected.

 
Atlantis - Celebrate the Journey Ticket Packages

 
Atlantis Adventure Package
Includes Admission, KSC Up-Close: Launch Pad Tour and Exploration Park Event Ticket (including transportation)
Price: $115 plus tax per adult guest

Explorer Package
Admission and Exploration Park Event Ticket (including transportation)
Price: $90 plus tax per adult guest

Lift-off Package
Admission and KSC Up-Close: Launch Pad Tour
Price: $75 plus tax per adult guest

Rollover Package
Admission only
Price: $50 plus tax per adult guest

Astronaut Autograph and Memorabilia Show Option
The "who's who" of space exploration will be ready and waiting to autograph at the Kurt H. Debus Conference Facility, adjacent to the Rocket Garden. Over 50 astronauts are scheduled to attend. Each astronaut will have their own station and charge a fee for their autograph. Guests are invited to bring as much memorabilia as they would like to be signed. This ticket option can be added after selecting a ticket package for the event.
Price: $15 plus tax per adult guest
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Sarah on 09/19/2012 09:56 PM
Where is Exploration Park at? I'm pretty sure they will bus us there from the KSCVC. Maybe we should start another thread for the Atlantis - Celebrate the Journey event.  :)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: robertross on 09/19/2012 10:48 PM
Where is Exploration Park at? I'm pretty sure they will bus us there from the KSCVC. Maybe we should start another thread for the Atlantis - Celebrate the Journey event.  :)

Had me stumped too.

Some addditional info:
http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/atlantis.aspx

Quote
Atlantis - Celebrate the Journey Packages for Nov. 2, 2012:
Level 1: Atlantis Adventure Package - $115 adult/$105 child (ages 3-11), plus tax - SOLD OUT

Includes:

•Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex admission
•Ticket and roundtrip transportation to Exploration Park featuring the opportunity to view and photograph Atlantis in 360 degrees from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. 
•KSC Up-Close: Launch Pad tour
Additional activities at Exploration Park include interactive exhibits promoting the history and future of spaceflight and displays of spaceflight hardware from past, current and future programs. Exhibitors scheduled to attend include NASA, The Boeing Company, Sierra Nevada Corporation, SpaceX and XCOR Aerospace.


KSC Up-Close: Launch Pad tour. Travel a quarter-mile within the perimeter security fence of Launch Pad 39-A to enjoy close-up views of the 350-foot high launch pad. Tour includes two photo opportunity stops including a new stop in front of the Flame Trench. Other sites on the tour include drive-by views of Launch Pad 39-B, the Vehicle Assembly Building and mobile launcher platforms with the tour culminating at the Apollo/Saturn V Center. Tour times will be assigned in advance and you will be notified of the time when your tickets arrive. Tour times will depart between 9:30 and 10:50 a.m. to allow ample time to visit Exploration Park and return to the Visitor Complex to see Atlantis arrive.


Level 2: Explorer Package - $90 adult/$80 child (ages 3-11), plus tax

Includes:

•Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex admission 
•Ticket and roundtrip transportation to Exploration Park featuring the opportunity to view and photograph Atlantis in 360 degrees from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m.
Additional activities include interactive exhibits promoting the history and future of spaceflight and displays of spaceflight hardware from past, current and future programs. Exhibitors scheduled to attend include NASA, The Boeing Company, Sierra Nevada Corporation, SpaceX and XCOR Aerospace.

Level 3: Lift-off Package - $75 adult/$59 child (ages 3-11), plus tax 

Includes:

•Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex admission
•KSC Up-Close: Launch Pad tour
KSC Up-Close: Launch Pad tour. Travel nearly a quarter-mile within the perimeter security fence of Launch Pad  39-A to enjoy close-up views of the 350-foot high launch pad. Tour includes two photo opportunity stops including a new stop in front of the Flame Trench. Other sites on the tour include drive-by views of Launch Pad 39-B, the Vehicle Assembly Building and mobile launcher platforms with the tour culminating at the Apollo/Saturn V Center. Tour times will be assigned in advance and you will be notified of the time when your tickets arrive. Tour times will depart between 9:30 and 10:50 a.m. to allow ample time to visit Exploration Park and return to the Visitor Complex to see Atlantis arrive.

Level 4: Rollover Package - $50 adult/$40 child (ages 3-11), plus tax

Includes: 

•Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex admission with the opportunity to see Atlantis travel along the roadway and enter the orbiter home from 5 to 6 p.m. During the day, enjoy special exhibits as well as the Kennedy Space Center Tour, Shuttle Launch Experience, 3D IMAX® space films, Astronaut Encounter, Exploration Space: Explorers Wanted and all exhibits. Admission also includes the U.S. Astronaut Hall of Fame®.
Astronaut Autograph and Memorabilia Show benefitting the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation: The "who's who" of space exploration will be ready and waiting to sign autographs at the Kurt H. Debus Conference Facility, adjacent to the Rocket Garden. Each astronaut will have their own station and charge a fee for their autograph. Bring as much memorabilia as you'd like to be signed, or choose from a number of high-quality, glossy photos and memorabilia that will be available on-site for purchase. Meet more than 40 astronauts and special guests.

Admission is $15 for adults and children. Tickets will be available on the Astronaut Autograph and Memorabilia Show page, following the Atlantis – Celebrate the Journey ticket package page.

Please note: There will be no arrival to or exit from Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex from 4 to 6 p.m. due to blocked roadways as the orbiter moves from Exploration Park to Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex.


and this sounds like where Atlantis will be parked for the event
http://www.explorationpark.com/index.htm

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 09/19/2012 11:29 PM
Where is Exploration Park at? I'm pretty sure they will bus us there from the KSCVC. Maybe we should start another thread for the Atlantis - Celebrate the Journey event.  :)
Roughly at the intersection of Kennedy Parkway (S.R. 3) and 5th Street, south of S.R. 405 and north of Space Commerce.  It's on the west side of S.R. 3; should be able to find it in a recent satellite map of the area.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Sarah on 09/20/2012 05:48 AM
Where is Exploration Park at? I'm pretty sure they will bus us there from the KSCVC. Maybe we should start another thread for the Atlantis - Celebrate the Journey event.  :)
Roughly at the intersection of Kennedy Parkway (S.R. 3) and 5th Street, south of S.R. 405 and north of Space Commerce.  It's on the west side of S.R. 3; should be able to find it in a recent satellite map of the area.


Looks like they will need to take down stop lights and light poles if they are going to take her into the park.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/intuitiongirls/explorationpark_zps7640dfdf.jpg)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: danduc on 09/20/2012 12:05 PM
KSC visitor Centre told me on Monday that ATlantis could be seen in the VAB between 16 october and 2 Novembre. Now, somebody just wrote me saying that the guides at KSC told him that Atlantis will go directly from the OPC to the Museum. Who<s right?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 09/20/2012 12:53 PM
KSC visitor Centre told me on Monday that ATlantis could be seen in the VAB between 16 october and 2 Novembre. Now, somebody just wrote me saying that the guides at KSC told him that Atlantis will go directly from the OPC to the Museum. Who<s right?
I guess it's possible that some discussions are still going on; however, I've heard from Stephanie Stilson twice now -- last month and last Friday -- that Atlantis will go to the VAB first.  She said the current target date was October 17.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 09/21/2012 10:41 AM
Atlantis' payload bay doors were closed, but will be reopened eventually at the KSCVC.

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: nisse on 09/22/2012 09:16 PM
and payload bay work on mock tv cameras and airlock

Why not donate a real airlock to the museum? There is no use for the shuttle airlocks after r&r?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 09/23/2012 01:52 AM
and payload bay work on mock tv cameras and airlock

Why not donate a real airlock to the museum? There is no use for the shuttle airlocks after r&r?

There are several proposals that use former shuttle airlocks, and as such are quite valuable. Also the mockups are much lighter, as Atlantis needs to go on a diet for the KSCVC exhibit.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: nisse on 09/23/2012 04:45 AM
and payload bay work on mock tv cameras and airlock

Why not donate a real airlock to the museum? There is no use for the shuttle airlocks after r&r?

There are several proposals that use former shuttle airlocks, and as such are quite valuable. Also the mockups are much lighter, as Atlantis needs to go on a diet for the KSCVC exhibit.

Interesting. Can you tell more or redirect me to somplace I can read more on this?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Sarah on 09/25/2012 03:57 AM
KSC visitor Centre told me on Monday that ATlantis could be seen in the VAB between 16 october and 2 Novembre. Now, somebody just wrote me saying that the guides at KSC told him that Atlantis will go directly from the OPC to the Museum. Who<s right?

I just got an email from KSC stating Atlantis will travel from the VAB to Exploration Park on 11/2. So it seems nothing has changed. I booked my tour of the VAB. So now I'll get to see her 2 days.  :)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Aobrien on 09/25/2012 01:48 PM
No RMS? Of all shuttles to keep an arm I would love to of seen it be Atlantis considering its display. Where did the arms go? Canada, Smithsonian, and what about the third?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: DaveS on 09/25/2012 01:51 PM
No RMS? Of all shuttles to keep an arm I would love to of seen it be Atlantis considering its display. Where did the arms go? Canada, Smithsonian, and what about the third?
JSC.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: wolfpack on 09/25/2012 03:03 PM
Interesting. Can you tell more or redirect me to somplace I can read more on this?

Gateway station is one example.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/06/nasa-teams-evaluating-iss-built-exploration-platform-roadmap/
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Rocket Guy on 09/25/2012 03:27 PM
Atlantis should have a replica RMS positioned above it, as in operational use.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 09/25/2012 03:27 PM
No RMS?

Atlantis will be displayed with a replica RMS.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 09/26/2012 03:53 PM
Tweet that's only just gone out:

NASA Kennedy / KSC ‏@NASAKennedy
Atlantis' payload bay doors closed for the last time Sept. 20. Aft compartment closeouts are in progress. Atlantis moves to VAB in mid-Oct.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: danduc on 09/26/2012 06:58 PM
I'm so disappointed! I<m leaving Florida on the 17 of October and bought the VAB tour for the 16.

This from Kennedy Space Centre Visitor Centre.
KSC Up-Close: The Vehicle Assembly Building Tour
This KSC Up-Close Tour features an inside view of the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB). Walk along the Transfer Aisle, used to move elements of rockets among the building's four High Bays. Other sites on this KSC Up-Close Tour include the NASA Causeway, A/B Camera Stop and the amazing Apollo/Saturn V Center.
Beginning October 17, guests who take the VAB tour have the opportunity to see Space Shuttle Atlantis.

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Rocket Guy on 09/26/2012 07:17 PM
As of today, October 17 remains the target for Atlantis' roll to the VAB.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 09/26/2012 08:28 PM
Tweet that's only just gone out:

NASA Kennedy / KSC ‏@NASAKennedy
Atlantis' payload bay doors closed for the last time Sept. 20. Aft compartment closeouts are in progress. Atlantis moves to VAB in mid-Oct.

I do believe they will be reopened at the KSCVC for display.......
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 09/28/2012 11:20 PM
Update for the only orbiter still left at KSC:

Quote
Inside Orbiter Processing Facility-2 at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida, a United Space Alliance technician prepares to close space shuttle Atlantis’ midbody door for the final time.

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: cautionjump on 09/30/2012 03:16 AM
I noticed Atlantis has large white covers in the payload bays, almost like sheets that cover the thermal insulation blankets, like in this photo:
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/263592main_clean_payload_bay_3000x2008.jpg

But on orbit they are missing:
http://media.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/photos/images/2010/apr10/shuttle131_sm/shuttle13101.jpg

What are they for, and will they be removed for display?
Thanks!
Eric
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Disco747 on 10/01/2012 08:19 AM
There are several proposals that use former shuttle airlocks, and as such are quite valuable. Also the mockups are much lighter, as Atlantis needs to go on a diet for the KSCVC exhibit.

I wonder if Orbiters hate going on diets as much as people do?! ;D
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Jim on 10/01/2012 11:46 PM
I noticed Atlantis has large white covers in the payload bays, almost like sheets that cover the thermal insulation blankets, like in this photo:
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/263592main_clean_payload_bay_3000x2008.jpg

But on orbit they are missing:
http://media.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/photos/images/2010/apr10/shuttle131_sm/shuttle13101.jpg

What are they for, and will they be removed for display?
Thanks!
Eric

They are called payload liners.   They were optional mission services.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: cautionjump on 10/02/2012 02:12 AM
Optional Mission Services? Did they fly with them? Seems like I only see them in the OPF...
Thanks!
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: DaveS on 10/02/2012 02:35 AM
Optional Mission Services? Did they fly with them? Seems like I only see them in the OPF...
Thanks!
Here they are during STS-125: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-125/hires/s125e010103.jpg

The liners are used when there's a special requirement not met by the standard PLB TCS insulation. The IUS missions come to mind as having the liners.

Edit:
STS-93, IUS/AXAF: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-93/hires/s93e5129.jpg
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: JAFO on 10/10/2012 03:27 AM
Anyone know how long Atlantis will be in the VAB for viewing on the tour (KSC visitors website says it stars Oct 17).

TIA

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ford Mustang on 10/10/2012 11:43 AM
She will move to the KSC Visitors Center on November 2nd, last I heard.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 10/10/2012 04:08 PM
MEDIA ADVISORY: M55-12

NASA INVITES MEDIA TO SHUTTLE ATLANTIS’ MOVE TO VAB

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. – Media are invited to a photo opportunity as
space shuttle Atlantis moves from its processing hangar, Orbiter
Processing Facility 2 (OPF-2) to the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB)
for the final time on Oct. 17, at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in
Florida. Atlantis is scheduled to move at about 8:30 a.m. EDT. Media
must arrive at Kennedy’s Press Site by 7:30 a.m. for transportation
to the event. Journalists without NASA Kennedy accreditation need to
apply for credentials by noon, Tuesday, Oct. 16. International media
accreditation for this event is closed. Badges can be picked up at
the Kennedy Space Center Badging Office on State Road 405. Media must
apply for credentials online at:  https://media.ksc.nasa.gov

Any updates on the move will be available at 321-867-2525. Atlantis
has been undergoing preparations for public display as part of NASA’s
Transition and Retirement processing of the shuttle fleet. The
orbiter is targeted to move to the Kennedy Space Center Visitor
Complex on Nov. 2. There, a grand opening is planned for Atlantis’
new home in July 2013. For more information about the Kennedy Space
Center Visitor Complex, visit:  http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com

For more information about the shuttles’ preparations for public
display, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/shuttle

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Sarah on 10/10/2012 05:31 PM
I got my tickets and placard for the event. When I opened the envelope and saw the vehicle placard I immediately thought "SHUTTLE LAUNCH!" but then reality hit me.  :D
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 10/11/2012 05:19 PM
RELEASE: 12-358

NASA SOCIAL MEDIA EVENT TO CELEBRATE THE FINAL JOURNEY OF SHUTTLE ATLANTIS

WASHINGTON -- NASA and the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex will
invite 28 of their social media followers to a two-day NASA Social
Nov. 1-2 in Florida. The event will commemorate the move of space
shuttle Atlantis from Kennedy's Vehicle Assembly Building to its
final destination for permanent display at the center's visitor
complex. Parts of the social will be carried live on NASA Television
and the agency's website.

Atlantis will make the 10-mile rolling journey Nov. 2 atop a 76-wheel
flatbed vehicle called the Orbiter Transportation System. The move
will conclude at Atlantis' new permanent home, which is under
construction. The exhibit is set to open during the summer of 2013.

During the NASA Social, people who engage with NASA through Twitter,
Facebook and Google+ will have an opportunity for a special "hard hat
tour" of the new Atlantis exhibit building and to witness the arrival
of Atlantis at Space Florida's Exploration Park. Participants will
speak with experts from NASA's human spaceflight and commercial
programs, tour NASA facilities, see featured spaceflight hardware
from the past, present and future, and listen to presentations
honoring the Space Shuttle Program. Guests also will be able to
interact with fellow NASA social media followers, space enthusiasts
and members of NASA's social media team.

The NASA Social registration opens at noon EDT, Monday, Oct. 15, and
closes at noon EDT, Wednesday, Oct. 17. Twenty eight participants
will be selected randomly from online registrations. Because of
limited space, those selected to attend may not bring a guest. Each
participant must be a U.S. citizen age 18 or older.

For more information on NASA Socials and to register, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/social

To join and track the conversation online during the NASA Socials,
follow the hashtag #NASASocial. Use and reference the #Atlantis and
#SpotTheShuttle hashtags to follow Atlantis' journey.

For NASA TV streaming video, schedules and downlink information,
visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/ntv

For information about Atlantis' arrival at Kennedy Space Center
Visitor Complex, visit:

http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com

For information about connecting and collaborating with NASA, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/connect
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 10/11/2012 10:55 PM
Hatch closed and sealed for the last time:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=9
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Jon Long on 10/14/2012 11:15 PM
Does anyone have any knowledge of the plan for the Atlantis viewing at Exploration Park?

From what I learned through the ASF, it sounds as if they will begin running buses out to the park beginning at 9:30 AM with the last one leaving at 10:50 AM. I believe there will be buses running regularly from the park back to the VC, so that you are not trapped out there the entire 3+ hours Atlantis will be there.

I'm curious what the plan is for the viewing at the park. How close will people be allowed to get to the orbiter? Thinking of photography and trying to pack the appropriate gear.

Will you be allowed to wander around at will? I think you can stay as long or as short of time as you want (until the next return bus departs), but would like to confirm that. Thanks!
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: gordo on 10/15/2012 07:45 PM
The photo caption makes it sounds like the hatch would never ever ever be opened again!
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: AnalogMan on 10/16/2012 04:34 PM
Atlantis to Move to Vehicle Assembly Building
Tue, 16 Oct 2012 03:50:49 PM

On Wednesday, Oct. 17, space shuttle Atlantis will leave its Kennedy Space Center processing hangar for the last time. The move out of Orbiter Processing Facility-2 is scheduled to begin at about 8:30 a.m. EDT, with a pause on the towway for employee viewing, before continuing into the nearby Vehicle Assembly Building. Inside the VAB, the spacecraft will await its upcoming move to the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex, planned for Nov. 2. A grand opening for Atlantis' permanent display at the visitor complex is targeted for July 2013.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/rss_main_right_collex_archive_1.html (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/rss_main_right_collex_archive_1.html)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 10/16/2012 05:18 PM
Does anyone know if she's atop the OTS yet and where in the VAB she'll be stored?  Transfer aisle or HB4?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: psloss on 10/16/2012 06:43 PM
Does anyone know if she's atop the OTS yet and where in the VAB she'll be stored?  Transfer aisle or HB4?  Thanks.
Yes -- KSC PAO has posted some new pictures of the gear being retracted and there was a picture tweeted of the OTS rolling into OPF-2 earlier.

I believe Atlantis is going into HB4.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: catdlr on 10/16/2012 07:04 PM
Shuttle Atlantis' Crew Hatch Closed for Final Time

Published on Oct 16, 2012 by SpaceVidsNet

Space shuttle Atlantis' crew compartment hatch was closed for the final time on Oct. 11 at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Robert Cabana, Kennedy's director and a former astronaut who flew aboard Atlantis, witnessed the historic event inside Orbiter Processing Facility 2 at Kennedy. Atlantis is being prepared for public display at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex as part of NASA's transition and retirement processing of the orbiter fleet. Atlantis is scheduled to move to the Vehicle Assembly Building on Oct. 17, where it will await its move to the visitor complex scheduled for Nov. 2. There, a grand opening of Atlantis' new home is targeted for July 2013.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkZ1qrfc9Xg
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 10/16/2012 08:02 PM
MEDIA ADVISORY: M12-201

NASA OPENS MEDIA ACCREDITATION, ANNOUNCES EVENTS FOR SHUTTLE ATLANTIS' FINAL MOVE

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Media accreditation is open for activities
surrounding space shuttle Atlantis' move to the Kennedy Space Center
Visitor Complex in Florida for permanent public display. Atlantis is
scheduled to depart the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) at NASA's
Kennedy Space Center at approximately 7 a.m. EDT on Nov. 2.

The shuttle will embark on a 10-mile journey from the VAB to the
visitor complex, stopping along the route for a NASA ceremony at
about 9:45 a.m. Following the ceremony, Atlantis will travel to Space
Florida's Exploration Park for a viewing opportunity for visitor
complex guests before departing for its new home.

Members of the media are invited to cover the ceremony and photograph
Atlantis at designated locations throughout the move to Exploration
Park. After departing Exploration Park, additional photo locations
will be available for media coverage.

Ceremony participants include:
-- NASA Administrator Charles Bolden
-- NASA Kennedy Space Center Director Robert Cabana
-- Current and former astronauts of Atlantis' final mission, STS-135
-- Chief Operating Officer, Delaware North Companies Parks & Resorts,
Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex, Bill Moore

MEDIA ACCREDITATION

For international journalists, the deadline to apply for credentials
is noon, Oct. 22. For U.S. journalists, the application deadline is
close of business, Oct. 30.

All media accreditation requests must be submitted online at:

https://media.ksc.nasa.gov

For a schedule of Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex media events
and to apply for accreditation for coverage of activities at
Exploration Park and the visitor complex, news media should contact
Andrea Farmer at [email protected] or Catherine Segar at
[email protected]

Kennedy Press Site Office Hours for Atlantis Move Activities
Times may be adjusted closer to the event.

Wednesday, Oct. 31: 8 a.m. - 4:30 p.m.
Thursday, Nov. 1: 8 a.m. - 4:30 p.m.
Friday, Nov. 2: 5 a.m. - 6 p.m.

Kennedy Press Accreditation Office Hours
The Press Accreditation Office is located on State Road 3, south of
the security gate.

Wednesday, Oct. 31: noon - 4 p.m.
Thursday, Nov. 1: 10 a.m. - 4 p.m.
Friday, Nov. 2: 4:30 - 5:30 a.m.

Engineers have been preparing Atlantis for public display as part of
NASA's transition and retirement processing of the space shuttle
fleet. A grand opening of Atlantis' new home at the Kennedy Space
Center Visitor Complex is planned for July 2013.

NASA TV's Video File will broadcast highlights of Atlantis' move. For
NASA TV downlink information, schedules and links to streaming video,
visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/ntv

For more information on the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex,
visit:

http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com

For more information about preparations for Atlantis' public display,
visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/transition
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Post by: nathan.moeller on 10/16/2012 08:59 PM
Does anyone know if she's atop the OTS yet and where in the VAB she'll be stored?  Transfer aisle or HB4?  Thanks.
Yes -- KSC PAO has posted some new pictures of the gear being retracted and there was a picture tweeted of the OTS rolling into OPF-2 earlier.

I believe Atlantis is going into HB4.


Thank you, Philip.
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Post by: DaveS on 10/17/2012 01:47 PM
Atlantis on the move to the VAB:
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Post by: DaveS on 10/17/2012 01:50 PM
Now on the towway:
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Post by: Space Pete on 10/17/2012 01:50 PM
And so an orbiter has left an OPF for the final time. :(
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Post by: DaveS on 10/17/2012 01:52 PM
Moving own the road:
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Post by: DaveS on 10/17/2012 01:54 PM
Now passing OPF1:
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Post by: DaveS on 10/17/2012 01:57 PM
Continuing down the road to the VAB transfer aisle:
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Post by: DaveS on 10/17/2012 01:58 PM
Passing the former OPF3:
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Post by: DaveS on 10/17/2012 02:09 PM
Seems like they have stopped on the tow-way between the VAB and OPF3.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 10/17/2012 03:30 PM
Seems like they have stopped on the tow-way between the VAB and OPF3.

She's still sitting there.  Guessing it's another photo opportunity like there was for Discovery and Endeavour.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 10/17/2012 03:52 PM
She's rolling backwards, now:
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 10/17/2012 03:54 PM
And now back forwards again, and out of frame...
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 10/17/2012 04:13 PM
And Atlantis is now in the VAB. 
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Post by: psloss on 10/17/2012 04:27 PM
Seems like they have stopped on the tow-way between the VAB and OPF3.

She's still sitting there.  Guessing it's another photo opportunity like there was for Discovery and Endeavour.
Yes, an employee event...one of those trucks down there is Häagen-Dazs.  They had to end it early due to weather in the area.
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Post by: Overflow on 10/17/2012 07:02 PM
Wasn't it the final time the landing gear would be retracted when she was loaded on the Orbiter Transport Vehicle?
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 10/17/2012 08:38 PM
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 10/17/2012 08:40 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 10/17/2012 09:13 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 10/17/2012 09:16 PM
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 10/17/2012 11:11 PM
Article by Philip Sloss - including some of his pictures, and some of Larry Sullivan's - both of whom were at KSC for us today.

Some really nice quotes in this:

Atlantis’ team comforted by the orbiter retiring at her home port of KSC:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/10/atlantis-team-comforted-ksc-retirement/
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Post by: Overflow on 10/17/2012 11:26 PM
Article by Philip Sloss - including some of his pictures, and some of Larry Sullivan's - both of whom were at KSC for us today.

Some really nice quotes in this:

Atlantis’ team comforted by the orbiter retiring at her home port of KSC:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/10/atlantis-team-comforted-ksc-retirement/

Great article! I'm so glad that my favorite Space Shuttle isn't leaving her home.
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Post by: robertross on 10/18/2012 12:41 AM
Article by Philip Sloss - including some of his pictures, and some of Larry Sullivan's - both of whom were at KSC for us today.

Some really nice quotes in this:

Atlantis’ team comforted by the orbiter retiring at her home port of KSC:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/10/atlantis-team-comforted-ksc-retirement/

Thanks for the really nice article Philip.

Too many final days for these great ships...
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Post by: catdlr on 10/18/2012 07:49 PM
Shuttle Atlantis Leaves Processing Hangar for Final Time

Published on Oct 18, 2012 by SpaceVidsNet

Space shuttle Atlantis rolled out of the Orbiter Processing Facility 2 to the Vehicle Assembly Building for the final time on Oct. 17 at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Atlantis has been undergoing preparations for public display as part of NASA's Transition and Retirement processing of the shuttle fleet. The orbiter is scheduled to move to its new home at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex on Nov. 2. There, a grand opening is planned for Atlantis in July 2013.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8g2v18GSz0
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Post by: robertross on 10/18/2012 10:06 PM
That was bittersweet...

That videographer did a superb job, with great pan shots, close-ups, and giving her that extra touch of grace.

And someone has an awesome looking car (~ 9min in)!

Hey, it's Philip in the video! (~9:43). Way to go man!

I have a whole new take on the chants recently, saying: "USA USA USA"
'United Space Alliance, United Space Alliance, United Space Alliance'.
They have done such an amazing job over the years on these girls. They will always have my utmost respect, and hopefully that of many others as well.
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Post by: John44 on 10/19/2012 04:37 PM
Space Shutlle Atlantis Leaves Processing Hangar for the Final Time
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7910
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Post by: collectSPACE on 10/26/2012 08:01 AM
How shuttle Atlantis will roll (and rise) into NASA display
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-102612a.html

The last of NASA's space shuttles to move into a museum will roll over to its Florida retirement home in one week's time.

Next Friday (Nov. 2), space shuttle Atlantis will leave the Kennedy Space Center (KSC), where it launched to space 33 times, to land at the KSC Visitor Complex located just down the road. It won't be the longest trip the shuttle has made, or even the most memorable, but as the last trip of its kind, it will be making history.

"It's only a priceless artifact driving 9.8 miles and weighing about 154,000 pounds," Tim Macy, the director of project development and construction for Delaware North Parks & Resorts, which operates the visitor complex for NASA, said on Thursday (Oct. 25). "We've been planning for this a long, long time."
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Post by: psloss on 10/26/2012 11:15 AM
How shuttle Atlantis will roll (and rise) into NASA display
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-102612a.html

The last of NASA's space shuttles to move into a museum will roll over to its Florida retirement home in one week's time.
Very nice overview.  Thanks, Robert -- some new details in there, too.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 10/26/2012 12:55 PM
Very nice overview.  Thanks, Robert -- some new details in there, too.

Thanks Philip. One detail I thought of particular interest, given that it's been the subject of a couple of posts here, is that we haven't yet seen the last of Atlantis' landing gear...
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Post by: brettreds2k on 10/26/2012 02:20 PM
I thought her gear was retracted for the final time already?
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Post by: lucspace on 10/26/2012 02:29 PM
The procedure for getting Atlantis ready for public viewing is here: http://collectspace.com/news/news-102612a.html.
The fact that the orbiter will be covered in a shrinkwrap of sorts worries me a bit... will that chage the matt appearance of the TPS?
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Post by: collectSPACE on 10/26/2012 04:36 PM
I thought her gear was retracted for the final time already?

No, as reported here, Atlantis will sit on its wheels for about a week once inside the new display building:
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-102612a.html

The fact that the orbiter will be covered in a shrinkwrap of sorts worries me a bit... will that chage the matt appearance of the TPS?

The wrap is more like a boat wrap than a commercial shrink wrap — not as tight but effective at protecting the orbiter as the building is completed around it.

They've finished most of the work that will be needed above Atlantis, and any remaining tasks (installing lighting and projection equipment) will follow tethering rules similar to the procedures in the OPF.
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Post by: psloss on 10/26/2012 04:58 PM
I thought her gear was retracted for the final time already?

No, as reported here, Atlantis will sit on its wheels for about a week once inside the new display building:
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-102612a.html
That's my fault -- I should have qualified the sentence regarding final gear retraction in last week's story.  Your story is the first place I've seen the note about cycling the gear again and removing the OTS shortly after the roll.
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Post by: Overflow on 10/26/2012 09:14 PM
Glad to see Atlantis will have her gear deployed one last time.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 10/26/2012 11:21 PM
MEDIA ADVISORY: M57-12

AIRSPACE AND ROAD CLOSURES FOR SHUTTLE ATLANTIS' MOVE TO KENNEDY SPACE CENTER VISITOR COMPLEX

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- The following airspace and road closures will
be in effect for the move of space shuttle Atlantis from Kennedy
Space Center to its final destination for permanent public display at
the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex on Friday, Nov. 2.

NASA KENNEDY SPACE CENTER AREA AVIATION FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS

What: Activation of Restricted Area R-2934

When: Friday, Nov. 2, from 6 a.m. until 6 p.m. EDT

Where: All aviation traffic is prohibited from entering Restricted
Area R-2934 from the surface up to 5,000 feet during this period.
Pilots should check NOTAM for the latest information.

Aeronautical Chart in Use: Orlando Class B terminal area and
Jacksonville sectional

NOTAM Information: St. Petersburg Flight Service Station
Telephone: 1-800-992-7433
Radio frequencies: 123.6 MHz (Titusville); 122.6 MHz (Melbourne)

Radio Communications: FAA Orlando Approach Control
Titusville/Cocoa area: 134.950 MHz
Melbourne area: 132.650 MHz
Cape Control frequency: 133.8 MHz

PUBLIC ACCESS ROAD CLOSURES

State Road 3 from the Gate 2 News Media Pass and Identification
Building to State Road 405 (NASA Causeway) via Space Commerce Way and
State Road 405 from U.S. Astronaut Hall of Fame to Space Commerce Way
will be closed for public access from 6 a.m. until 6 p.m. EDT. The
Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex also will be closed to those who
do not hold tickets to the "Atlantis -- Celebrate the Journey" event.
For event details, the public can call 877-313-2610.
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Post by: rdale on 10/29/2012 12:40 AM
Pics of Atlantis, and the disassembled shuttle hoist in the VAB.
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Post by: jacqmans on 10/30/2012 02:28 PM
MEDIA ADVISORY: M12-210

NASA TELEVISION AIRS SPACE SHUTTLE ATLANTIS' FINAL MOVE

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- NASA Television will provide live coverage of
events surrounding space shuttle Atlantis' move to the Kennedy Space
Center Visitor Complex in Florida for permanent public display.

At 2 p.m. EDT Thursday, Nov. 1, NASA TV's media channel will air a
news briefing about the transformation of Kennedy Space Center to a
multiuser spaceport. The briefing participants are:

-- Lisa Colloredo, associate manager, Commercial Crew Program
-- Scott Colloredo, chief architect, Ground Systems Development and
Operations Program
-- Bruce Reid, Kennedy Space Center mission manager for Landsat Data
Continuity Mission
-- Jody Singer, deputy manager, Space Launch System Program

At 3:30 p.m., NASA TV's media channel will air a briefing about the
future of human spaceflight. The participants are:

-- Robert Cabana, director, Kennedy Space Center
-- Bill Hill, assistant deputy associate administrator for Exploration
Systems Development
-- Ed Mango, manager, NASA Commercial Crew Program

On Friday, Nov. 2, NASA TV will begin coverage at 7 a.m. as Atlantis
departs Kennedy's Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB). The shuttle will
make the 10-mile journey from the VAB to the visitor complex atop a
76-wheel flatbed vehicle called the Orbiter Transportation System,
stopping along the route for a retirement ceremony at about 10 a.m.
Ceremony participants include:

-- NASA Administrator Charles Bolden
-- Robert Cabana, NASA Kennedy Space Center director
-- Current and former astronauts of Atlantis' final mission, STS-135
-- Bill Moore, chief operating officer, Delaware North Companies Parks
and Resorts, Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex

Following the ceremony, Atlantis will travel to Space Florida's
Exploration Park for a presentation and viewing opportunity for
visitor complex guests before departing for its new home.

NASA TV coverage of the move will conclude when Atlantis reaches the
visitor complex at about 6 p.m.

NASA retains the title to Atlantis and is providing it to the visitor
complex for the public to view. Engineers have been preparing the
shuttle for public display as part of NASA's transition and
retirement processing of the shuttle fleet. A grand opening of
Atlantis' new home at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex is
planned for July 2013.

For NASA TV downlink information, schedules and links to streaming
video, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/ntv

For more information on the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex,
visit:

http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com

For more information about preparations for Atlantis' public display,
visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/transition

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Post by: Sarah on 10/31/2012 12:10 AM
I was in the VAB today and they have the hatch open again.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/intuitiongirls/9.jpg)
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Post by: brettreds2k on 10/31/2012 12:02 PM
Wonder what they are doing in there, I thought when they closed it a few weeks back they said it was the final closure, so I wonder what they needed back in for.
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Post by: psloss on 10/31/2012 12:19 PM
Wonder what they are doing in there, I thought when they closed it a few weeks back they said it was the final closure, so I wonder what they needed back in for.
Final closure in the OPF.  They're probably going to have to go back in at the Visitor Complex, too.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 11/01/2012 09:03 PM
Wonder what they are doing in there

They were installing desiccants to protect against any moisture the orbiter might encounter during the move, but it appears the weather is going to cooperate.
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Post by: jeff122670 on 11/01/2012 11:35 PM
maybe she finally let that guy have his wedding ring back, lol
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/02/2012 09:05 AM
maybe she finally let that guy have his wedding ring back, lol


Oh yeah! ;D

End of this article:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/06/sts-135-engineers-mfv-et-138-stringer-inspections-completed/

Ok, so today is a sad day.

On Friday, Nov. 2, NASA TV will begin coverage at 7 a.m. as Atlantis
departs Kennedy's Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB). The shuttle will
make the 10-mile journey from the VAB to the visitor complex atop a
76-wheel flatbed vehicle called the Orbiter Transportation System,
stopping along the route for a retirement ceremony at about 10 a.m.

Ceremony participants include:
-- NASA Administrator Charles Bolden
-- Robert Cabana, NASA Kennedy Space Center director
-- Current and former astronauts of Atlantis' final mission, STS-135
-- Bill Moore, chief operating officer, Delaware North Companies Parks
and Resorts, Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex

Following the ceremony, Atlantis will travel to Space Florida's
Exploration Park for a presentation and viewing opportunity for
visitor complex guests before departing for its new home.

NASA TV coverage of the move will conclude when Atlantis reaches the
visitor complex at about 6 p.m.

Everyone can chip in and I won't be around much today.

Big Chris G article to deal with the day coming this morning.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 09:38 AM
she has left the VAB for the last time, live on NTV my contribution before work
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 09:42 AM
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:12 AM
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:14 AM
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:16 AM
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:18 AM
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:20 AM
Ready to turn onto FL SR 3.
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:21 AM
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:23 AM
Anybody care to chime in? While I'm a classical shuttle hugger, I prefer to write the pre-launch report of the Proton launch in 10 hours than print screen & click.  ;D
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:25 AM
Should be turning left onto the Kennedy Parkway at ex-OPF-3.
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:26 AM
Miss Little Rockstar making one last peek of one of her former homes, OPF-2.
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:28 AM
On reverse shift...
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:29 AM
Hmm.... when will the railroad once again hauls SRB segments or (ahem  ;)) liquid boosters? That's a very good question....
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:32 AM
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:34 AM
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:38 AM
WE MADE HISTORY!
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:40 AM
For shuttle huggers, you would know what I mean.....  ;)

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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:43 AM
The STS-135 crew at the site....
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:47 AM
Now moving again....

Please help with updates and screenshots if you can: I need to go offshift for dinner and homework in a short time....
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:48 AM
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:49 AM
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:50 AM
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:54 AM
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 10:56 AM
No this is not the post-landing shuttle convoy!

BTW this might be the last time an OTV camera see the shuttle sisters.  :'(
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 11:01 AM
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 11:03 AM
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/02/2012 11:09 AM
OK I'm declaring a dinner contingency and give up coverage right now.  :P The parade for ownership transfer will come up in about 1.5 hours.
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Post by: MS6 on 11/02/2012 11:22 AM
Now they're showing STS-135 highlights.  It's bittersweet hearing the polls and liftoff.  Sorry, I can't do screenshots.
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 11:31 AM
I can do shots for a while
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 11:33 AM
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 11:37 AM
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/02/2012 11:39 AM
Great coverage guys. Keep it coming.

It does give me a smile seeing an orbiter with her possy of vehicles, but it's the last time.

Amazing Chris G article in work (lots of images being worked).
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 11:43 AM
upscaled my viewing window a bit
including a chopper
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 11:47 AM
Guess we'll get some footage from that chopper later  :)
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 11:51 AM
Nice views
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 11:56 AM
some offroad action!  ;D
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 12:00 PM
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 12:03 PM
now showing a promo, sadly. Will get back when the shuttle coverage comes back.
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 12:06 PM
and we're back  ;D
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 12:08 PM
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 12:13 PM
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 12:13 PM
KSC photo
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 12:16 PM
Space Shuttle Atlantis Move (201211020001HQ)

Space shuttle Atlantis is seen as it rolls down Kennedy Parkway on its way to its new home at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex, Friday, Nov. 2, 2012, in Cape Canaveral, Fla. The spacecraft traveled 125,935,769 miles during 33 spaceflights, including 12 missions to the International Space Station. Its final flight, STS-135, closed out the Space Shuttle Program era with a landing on July 21, 2011. Photo Credit: (NASA/Bill Ingalls)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nasahqphoto/8147475465/in/photostream
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 12:19 PM
small promo including baby orbiter in between  ;)
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 12:25 PM
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 12:29 PM
Coffee break ??
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 12:33 PM
moving again
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 12:35 PM
Coffee break ??
We have movement!
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 12:36 PM
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 12:38 PM
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 12:42 PM
coming around the corner!
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 12:43 PM
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 12:51 PM
aint she a beauty
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 12:52 PM
Pad 39A in the back.......
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 12:55 PM
marching band coming up

--

gonna have to stop in a few minutes, but jacqmans is here  :)

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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/02/2012 12:56 PM
Will give this a standalone thread, but so you don't miss it....

By Chris Gebhardt:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/11/space-shuttle-atlantis-the-final-goodbye/
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 12:57 PM
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/02/2012 01:00 PM
Right, these are the last from me.
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 01:01 PM
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 01:15 PM
First Atlantis Commander Karol Bobko (2nd photo  ;D)
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 01:18 PM
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 01:20 PM
STS-135 pilot Doug Hurley
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 01:47 PM
Roling again....
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 01:49 PM
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 01:56 PM
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 01:58 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 01:59 PM
So Atlantis is now property of KSCVC. Welcome home, girl.
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 02:00 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 02:38 PM
Thanks for posting pictures!
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 02:42 PM
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 02:44 PM
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 02:46 PM
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 02:51 PM
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Post by: Prober on 11/02/2012 02:52 PM
Exploration park
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 02:59 PM
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Post by: Space Pete on 11/02/2012 03:04 PM
So Atlantis is now property of KSCVC. Welcome home, girl.

Or, in other words: NASA no longer owns any Space Shuttle orbiters.

In fact, NASA no longer owns any vehicle capable of launching into space.
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 03:05 PM
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 03:07 PM
So Atlantis is now property of KSCVC. Welcome home, girl.

Or, in other words: NASA no longer owns any Space Shuttle orbiters.

In fact, NASA no longer owns any vehicle capable of launching into space.

Well watching the TV feed this afternoon, NASA still is the owner of Atlantis...it is just on loan to the VC...

So my gues is that they (NASA) still own the other shuttles to (or at least the US goverment is)
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/02/2012 03:10 PM
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Post by: brettreds2k on 11/02/2012 03:33 PM
So Atlantis is now property of KSCVC. Welcome home, girl.

Or, in other words: NASA no longer owns any Space Shuttle orbiters.

In fact, NASA no longer owns any vehicle capable of launching into space.

Well watching the TV feed this afternoon, NASA still is the owner of Atlantis...it is just on loan to the VC...

So my gues is that they (NASA) still own the other shuttles to (or at least the US goverment is)

The other orbiters they transferred titles to where they are displayed which means NASA does not have any ownership in the other 3 on Display.
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 03:41 PM
So Atlantis is now property of KSCVC. Welcome home, girl.

Or, in other words: NASA no longer owns any Space Shuttle orbiters.

In fact, NASA no longer owns any vehicle capable of launching into space.

Well watching the TV feed this afternoon, NASA still is the owner of Atlantis...it is just on loan to the VC...

So my gues is that they (NASA) still own the other shuttles to (or at least the US goverment is)

Oh really? Why wouldn't they just transfer the entire title over to the VC?
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Post by: MadameConcorde on 11/02/2012 04:03 PM

Or, in other words: NASA no longer owns any Space Shuttle orbiters.

In fact, NASA no longer owns any vehicle capable of launching into space.

That is a fact.
Only the Russians are --for the time being-- capable of launching humans to the International Space Station.

My take is that this retirement was necessary but it happened much too early.

The three remaining Shuttles should have been kept in service until the Space X or other companies are deemed capable to safely send humans to Space.

Now Roscosmos rules.

;-(
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Post by: hygoex on 11/02/2012 04:07 PM
I have been moved to tears whenever they are doing these shuttle retirement ceremonies.    The space program is in good shape, and the shuttles had a few more missions left.   As long as they pick a course and stay on it, we'll be back in space launching US manned mission real soon. 

For me, I am looking forward to seeing ALL of the shuttles in the coming year in person.   Hopefully, it will include seeing Enterprise next month.  She was the first shuttle to grace the cover of National Geographic.     NASA has done a good job of honoring each of the shuttles with ceremonies.   They have done an awesome job.   
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 04:14 PM
I have a feeling I'll be shedding a few tears when I watch Atlantis' ceremony.

I'll help reporting with pictures when I get home. Which will be in a little over an hour.
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Post by: MadameConcorde on 11/02/2012 04:14 PM
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/madameconcorde/divers/AltantisMoveKSC21112-20.jpg)

Atlantis looks so sad...

:-(
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 06:03 PM
And we're back. We have movement.
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 06:06 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 06:32 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 06:38 PM
They're now showing that STS-135 video.
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 06:39 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 06:48 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 06:57 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 07:00 PM
Atlantis is now at SR 405. She's 30 minutes ahead of schedule.

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Post by: catdlr on 11/02/2012 07:01 PM
So Atlantis is now property of KSCVC. Welcome home, girl.

Or, in other words: NASA no longer owns any Space Shuttle orbiters.

In fact, NASA no longer owns any vehicle capable of launching into space.

Well watching the TV feed this afternoon, NASA still is the owner of Atlantis...it is just on loan to the VC...

So my gues is that they (NASA) still own the other shuttles to (or at least the US goverment is)

Oh really? Why wouldn't they just transfer the entire title over to the VC?

Here is the transfer of ownership of Endeavour to the California Science Center that was signed some time ago (October 7, 2011).

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=30076.msg974768#msg974768
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 07:14 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 07:17 PM
Atlantis is now waiting to turn onto SR 405 since she's ahead of schedule.
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Post by: joseamatos on 11/02/2012 07:32 PM
What's with the holdup?
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 07:33 PM
What's with the holdup?

Atlantis is 30 minutes ahead of schedule. So to keep the rest of the events on schedule, they're taking a 30 minute break on the corner of SR 405 to put them back on schedule.

They should be moving again shortly.
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Post by: joseamatos on 11/02/2012 07:34 PM
Oh...

Atlantis is 30 minutes ahead of schedule. So to keep the rest of the events on schedule, they're taking a 30 minute break on the corner of SR 405 to put them back on schedule.

They should be moving again shortly.
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 07:40 PM
Buzz Aldrin will be one of the +30 astronauts from the Apollo, Skylab, and Space Shuttle Programs that will accompany Atlantis when she enters her new home.

Next movement is planned at any moment.
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 07:49 PM
We have movement. Atlantis is now making a right turn onto SR 405.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 07:50 PM
moving
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 07:50 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 07:51 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 07:51 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 07:53 PM
"A remarkable spacecraft"
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 07:53 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 07:56 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 07:57 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:00 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:00 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:05 PM
The press awaiting Atlantis.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:07 PM
wow that traffic light is going up again quickly
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:11 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:12 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:14 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:15 PM
The astronauts have been loaded off their vans.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:19 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:20 PM
Astronauts with Space Shuttle Atlantis.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:21 PM
You can hear the star trek music in the back ground from the VC
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:23 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:24 PM
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Post by: gchockry on 11/02/2012 08:27 PM
I heard Star Wars. Is that a Toyota Tundra?
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:28 PM
I dont see a turn indicator.....
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:29 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:29 PM
I heard Star Wars. Is that a Toyota Tundra?

Yes, it is a Toyota Tundra.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:30 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:30 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:33 PM
Atlantis is just outside the entrance.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:33 PM
Cant see it, but Atlantis is in front of the astronaut memorial right now
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:34 PM
Cant see it, but Atlantis is in front of the astronaut memorial right now

I feel like she's paying tribute to all the men and woman that lost their lives to the cause of exploration.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:35 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:35 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:37 PM
The crowd is brave, gators might be in the water
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:39 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:43 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:44 PM
According to PAO, Atlantis is the only orbiter that NASA retains ownership of
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:47 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:49 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:50 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:51 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:52 PM
According to PAO, Atlantis is the only orbiter that NASA retains ownership of

I heard that too. I wonder why.
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:52 PM
Welcome home, girl.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:53 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:53 PM
Oh crap. Just lost the feed. Anyone else?
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:54 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 08:55 PM
Nevermind. Just switched to UStream.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:55 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 08:58 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 09:00 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 09:03 PM
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 09:03 PM
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 09:07 PM
earlier picture of her new home
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 09:08 PM
coverage ended, fair winds and following seas OV-104!
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Post by: Rocket Science on 11/02/2012 09:09 PM
Atlantis wheels stop...
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 09:12 PM
Welcome home, Atlantis!
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Post by: Rocket Science on 11/02/2012 09:13 PM
Excellent coverage, thank you all!  :)
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 09:15 PM
Excellent coverage, thank you all!  :)

It was awesome to watch history!

Now to go watch the NASA Space Shuttle Documentary. :)
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Post by: MadameConcorde on 11/02/2012 09:23 PM
Looks like NASA TV coverage has ended. I captured 61 screen shots. :-)

Atlantis has made her final trip on wheels to her final resting home.

RIP Atlantis. I hope I can go back to KSC for the grand opening.

:-)
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/02/2012 09:37 PM
Well done everyone. Really nice to see a large mix of people covering.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/02/2012 10:19 PM
Thanks for the coverage.

I had the privilege of driving into KSC a few weeks ago to cover the Atlantis media tour for the site... and I must say, seeing Atlantis going the opposite way on the very road I drove into KSC to see her... well, it's very powerful.  But, the memories live on, and so will her legacy.


She's at home now, and soon millions will be able to see her as if she was on orbit.  Can't wait to see her on display.
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 10:21 PM
The fireworks have ended and people are now heading home. I have heard that the ISS will make a pass over KSCVC to end the events.
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 10:22 PM
Thanks for the coverage.

I had the privilege of driving into KSC a few weeks ago to cover the Atlantis media tour for the site... and I must say, seeing Atlantis going the opposite way on the very road I drove into KSC to see her... well, it's very powerful.  But, the memories live on, and so will her legacy.


She's at home now, and soon millions will be able to see her as if she was on orbit.  Can't wait to see her on display.

I agree with everything you said.

It's just now hitting me that the Space Shuttle Program is now officially over.
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Post by: astrobrian on 11/02/2012 10:34 PM
It's just now hitting me that the Space Shuttle Program is now officially over.

For me, it hit that point when they finished signing her over to the VC. after that it was just ceremony.
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Post by: JAFO on 11/02/2012 10:37 PM


No no no... The brass band is supposed to be in the second line.

While we mourn the loss of the STS program, we also need to celebrate the incredible accomplishments they made, salute those we lost, and remember that Atlantis and Endeavour literally gave their guts up for the SLS. They may not fly again, but their spirits will.

I hated to see the orbiters have parts removed, but I kind of like the fact that SLS will be using sections of their MPS plumbing. When the first stage reenters parts of the plumbing will vaporizie*, and in a way Atlantis and Endeavour will forever be flying.



*apologies, I can't think of the correct terminology. Mods, please feel free to correct my post.
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 10:38 PM
It's just now hitting me that the Space Shuttle Program is now officially over.

For me, it hit that point when they finished signing her over to the VC. after that it was just ceremony.

It's sad that we really have nothing.

And while I'm sure you've heard this a thousand times, I'm glad that they made it to retirement, but they had so much more life in them.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 10:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7O3wPs97vI
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 10:57 PM
havent seen this posted, master plan for the KSCVC upgrades, looks amazing!

http://portcanaveral.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=60&meta_id=4068
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/02/2012 11:01 PM
note, the last image is a tower to be constructed beside the Saturn center.
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Post by: Overflow on 11/02/2012 11:08 PM
That looks awesome! I can't wait to go to KSCVC next year.
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Post by: Sarah on 11/03/2012 01:22 AM
I left the VC around 8pm and she was still sitting outside all lit up with flood lights. Did they finally get her in the building? The whole day was just amazing!!
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Post by: Overflow on 11/03/2012 02:31 AM
I left the VC around 8pm and she was still sitting outside all lit up with flood lights. Did they finally get her in the building? The whole day was just amazing!!

They got her in!
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Post by: Orbiter on 11/03/2012 03:10 AM
Got hundreds of shots of the shuttle, here are some of my favorite.

BTW, KSCVC looks *way* different than the last time I was out there (In January, no less) almost had trouble getting my bearings.
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Post by: dawei on 11/03/2012 11:41 AM
Anybody know how hurricane proof the KSC Visitor's Center is?  (or at least the building that holds Atlantis)? 
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Post by: Orbiter on 11/03/2012 02:47 PM
They survived 2004 and 2005's chaos, I noticed though on the way in that there was some minor sign damage from Hurricane Sandy, but nothing else.
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Post by: rdale on 11/03/2012 03:26 PM
Anybody know how hurricane proof the KSC Visitor's Center is?  (or at least the building that holds Atlantis)? 

They survived 2004 and 2005's chaos

The Atlantis building wasn't around back then ;) Winds from Sandy were 30-40mph for the most part, and I was there the day after where all you could see was some signs and plenty of tree debris. From my vantage point (I slowed as much as I could without getting attention) the new construction didn't strike me as a hurricane-proof structure.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 11/03/2012 08:04 PM
Anybody know how hurricane proof the KSC Visitor's Center is?  (or at least the building that holds Atlantis)? 

According to Tim Macy, the director of project development and construction for Delaware North Parks & Resorts, the Atlantis exhibit building was designed to withstand a Category 3 hurricane.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 11/03/2012 08:11 PM
Atlantis' final journey was a memorable, if not also very long day into history. Plenty of time to reflect on the vehicle, its sister ships and the past few years of space shuttle museum deliveries, the epilogue to the shuttle program (as Chris Ferguson described it).

After the NASA TV coverage ended and before Atlantis was rolled into the building, there was a fantastic fireworks display positioned directly over the orbiter. 70+ photos from that show, as well as the entire dawn to dusk journey, are presented here:

Photos: Space shuttle Atlantis' final move to NASA visitor complex
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-110212b.html

Also, perhaps it was already mentioned but I missed it here, but visitors to the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex beginning today through Nov. 11 can tour the construction site, "sneak a peek" at Atlantis and pose for photos with the orbiter.

Space shuttle Atlantis, NASA's last orbiter, completes journey to museum
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-110312a.html
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Post by: rdale on 11/03/2012 08:38 PM
Anybody know how hurricane proof the KSC Visitor's Center is?  (or at least the building that holds Atlantis)? 

According to Tim Macy, the director of project development and construction for Delaware North Parks & Resorts, the Atlantis exhibit building was designed to withstand a Category 3 hurricane.

Thanks for the info. What is their contingency plan for worse?
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Post by: collectSPACE on 11/03/2012 08:56 PM
What is their contingency plan for worse?

The way the building is positioned next to the Shuttle Launch Experience building, there's some hope it would serve as a buffer, shielding Atlantis's exhibit. Otherwise, no other details were shared and I'm not sure much more can be done — especially after Atlantis' payload bay is opened.
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Post by: Rocket Science on 11/04/2012 12:18 PM
Did anyone take a picture of the Dream Chaser display that was there that day?
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Post by: Orbiter on 11/04/2012 02:04 PM
Did anyone take a picture of the Dream Chaser display that was there that day?

Yup. I also got pictures of the XCOR and Dragon mockups.
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Post by: Rocket Science on 11/04/2012 02:19 PM
Did anyone take a picture of the Dream Chaser display that was there that day?

Yup. I also got pictures of the XCOR and Dragon mockups.

Great even more extras! Thanks  :)
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Post by: Hodapp on 11/04/2012 05:24 PM
Here are some of my pics from this great weekend!
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Post by: Hodapp on 11/04/2012 05:28 PM
Two more pics from the 40th Anniversary Dinner for Apollo 17!
Astro Mark Lee sat at our table.
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Post by: catdlr on 11/05/2012 11:25 PM
Atlantis Moves to New Home

Published on Nov 5, 2012 by NASAKennedy

Space shuttle Atlantis makes a 10-mile trek from the Vehicle Assembly Building at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida to the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex where it will be put on public display beginning in the summer of 2013.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy0HX_Q_s7o
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/06/2012 11:15 PM
NASA pictures of Atlantis in the new building

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
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Post by: Sarah on 11/06/2012 11:49 PM
I checked out the new building. Atlantis gear is down. On the front gear, they have removed the wheels.

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Post by: Overflow on 11/07/2012 09:33 PM
Awesome pictures, Sarah! Thank you!!
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Post by: brettreds2k on 11/08/2012 12:10 PM
Why did they take her front gear off if they are going to have to lower her down on her gear one last time?
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Post by: Walter S on 11/08/2012 03:17 PM
Why did they take her front gear off if they are going to have to lower her down on her gear one last time?

All of the landing gear is being removed, followed by the draining of the remaining hydraulic fluid.

The OTS hydraulically lowered her to weight-on-wheels....jacks were used on nose to level her and remove the nose

Once they begin the lift, the main landing gear will be removed.

She will not be lowered onto her gear again. The landing gear will be displayed separately.
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Post by: Overflow on 11/08/2012 04:26 PM
When are they planning to begin lifting and tilting her?
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Post by: Rocket Science on 11/09/2012 06:01 PM
I checked out the new building. Atlantis gear is down. On the front gear, they have removed the wheels.


Hey Sarah,
I don’t think you’re allowed to take those home with you… JK thanks for the pics! ;D
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Post by: catdlr on 11/09/2012 11:39 PM
Atlantis Time-Lapse Move to KSC Visitor Complex

Published on Nov 9, 2012 by NASAKennedy

Time-lapse cameras captured space shuttle Atlantis making a 10-mile trek from the Vehicle Assembly Building at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida to the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex where it will be put on public display beginning in the summer of 2013.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TZc8XOkUnU
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Post by: woods170 on 11/10/2012 10:23 AM
Cool video. Thank goodness they skipped the hand-over ceremony. And the OTS mounted camera gives a cool perspective. And apparantly they had to back-up Atlantis a bit after initial drive-in to her new home.

Nicely done.
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Post by: robertross on 11/11/2012 09:25 PM
Cool video. Thank goodness they skipped the hand-over ceremony. And the OTS mounted camera gives a cool perspective. And apparantly they had to back-up Atlantis a bit after initial drive-in to her new home.

Nicely done.

Yeah, I liked that viewpoint as well. Always nice to get different perspectives.
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Post by: Walter S on 11/12/2012 09:06 PM
When are they planning to begin lifting and tilting her?

Atlantis will be covered this week, followed by the lift.
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Post by: Overflow on 11/13/2012 08:52 PM
When are they planning to begin lifting and tilting her?

Atlantis will be covered this week, followed by the lift.

Thanks for the info!
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Post by: Sarah on 11/13/2012 10:16 PM
I can't wait to see pics of her wrapped up.  :) Any indications as to when they will start putting up the wall behind her SSME's?
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Post by: collectSPACE on 11/13/2012 10:39 PM
Construction of the final wall was slated to begin a day or two after Atlantis was inside and continue concurrently as the orbiter was lifted into place. The wall is slated to be completed by mid-December.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 11/15/2012 06:36 PM
Spaceflight Now has pictures up of Atlantis wrapped in her cocoon  ;D They did a great job wrapping her up, I bet when they un wrap her it will be unwrapping the best present anyone can get!!

 http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts135/121115wrap/
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Post by: woods170 on 11/15/2012 07:23 PM
Spaceflight Now has pictures up of Atlantis wrapped in her cocoon  ;D They did a great job wrapping her up, I bet when they un wrap her it will be unwrapping the best present anyone can get!!

 http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts135/121115wrap/
The final two images in that series also shows the wall going up behind Atlantis.
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Post by: Ares67 on 11/15/2012 07:24 PM
Spaceflight Now has pictures up of Atlantis wrapped in her cocoon  ;D They did a great job wrapping her up, I bet when they un wrap her it will be unwrapping the best present anyone can get!!

 http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts135/121115wrap/

Impressive! Looks like Christo did it again...

http://www.nga.gov/exhibitions/2002/christo/74fs.htm

... and who knows what will emerge from this cocoon!  ;)
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Post by: Sarah on 11/15/2012 07:36 PM
That's awesome!

I also found it hilarious how the building isn't even done yet and when you exit from viewing Atlantis you go through the gift shop. They had to make sure that was done first.  :D

Side note: It shares the same gift shop as the Shuttle Launch Experience.
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Post by: Rocket Science on 11/15/2012 08:14 PM
Spaceflight Now has pictures up of Atlantis wrapped in her cocoon  ;D They did a great job wrapping her up, I bet when they un wrap her it will be unwrapping the best present anyone can get!!

 http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts135/121115wrap/

Impressive! Looks like Christo did it again...

http://www.nga.gov/exhibitions/2002/christo/74fs.htm

... and who knows what will emerge from this cocoon!  ;)
A beautiful butterfly…  ;D
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Post by: gordo on 11/15/2012 10:43 PM
Hopefully intrepid will do something similar for Enterprise, until they get the tent fixed
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Post by: Overflow on 11/16/2012 01:14 PM
I'll be honest.. Seeing Atlantis like that is kinda creepy. But I'm glad they have so much consideration for Atlantis.
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Post by: Davejfb on 11/25/2012 07:43 AM
(http://)Found this picture on twitter this morning. It's from last week. Look how high Atlantis is. Creepy high.

Source: http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w474/SpaceKSCBlog/KSCVC/121119_atlantis_wrapped.jpg
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Post by: Overflow on 11/25/2012 09:21 PM
Thanks for posting that picture! I'll keep an eye out.
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Post by: jacqmans on 11/27/2012 05:32 PM
From KSC Facebook page:

The Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex is making progress on space shuttle Atlantis' new home. Here we see her lifted and tilted as she is prepared for display.

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Post by: gordo on 11/27/2012 08:01 PM
I hope one of the documentary channels is putting a programme together on this fascinating procedure.
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Post by: Davejfb on 11/27/2012 08:13 PM
Here is a second one from the KSC Facebook page
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Post by: Silmfeanor on 11/27/2012 08:16 PM
Here is a second one from the KSC Facebook page

aaagghh looks like it will slide right off...
But I'm sure they have her secured correctly.  :D
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Post by: Alpha Control on 11/27/2012 08:24 PM
Here is a second one from the KSC Facebook page

aaagghh looks like it will slide right off...
But I'm sure they have her secured correctly.  :D


It does look like that, doesn't it? :)

It sure will be spectacular to see her when it's all finished.
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Post by: Overflow on 11/27/2012 09:35 PM
Awesome pictures! I can't wait until they show more.
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Post by: gordo on 11/29/2012 08:16 PM
so she's up and tilted...but how do them now get her onto the proper stands?   Support her on the 4 main side lifting points?
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Post by: Sarah on 11/29/2012 09:03 PM
so she's up and tilted...but how do them now get her onto the proper stands?   Support her on the 4 main side lifting points?

I'm thinking they can connect the permanent stands up with this device on her, transfer the weight and then remove the crossbars and stand from this device.
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Post by: padrat on 11/29/2012 09:39 PM
The wife took a couple while walking through the building today....
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Post by: Walter S on 11/29/2012 09:41 PM
so she's up and tilted...but how do them now get her onto the proper stands?   Support her on the 4 main side lifting points?

What you see now is part of the permanent structure. The main supports from the lift and tilt will stay. Once the tilt was completed another beam was added on both the front and aft to even out the weight. The steel girders under the wings will be shortened. The mounting points are former SCA hardware.

There was a media tour today and many photos were taken. When those begin to show up on-line it will make more sense.
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Post by: woods170 on 11/30/2012 07:42 AM
There was a media tour today and many photos were taken. When those begin to show up on-line it will make more sense.

Yup. See this one for instance: http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts135/121129tilt/gallery.html
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Post by: Sarah on 11/30/2012 02:46 PM
So obviously the stand isn't going to look like this then. I think that's why some of us are confused when looking at the actual pictures.

(http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26176.0;attach=476346;image)
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Post by: brettreds2k on 11/30/2012 04:23 PM
That is where I am confused, because the rendering of the display does not show a full stand going across from side to side like the one its on now, in the rendering its a much cleaner design of one tube per side.
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Post by: Walter S on 11/30/2012 04:29 PM
That is where I am confused, because the rendering of the display does not show a full stand going across from side to side like the one its on now, in the rendering its a much cleaner design of one tube per side.

That's correct, the design of both the stand and building has change a lot since this renderings were made.


The article provides more information on the exhibit, including what else has to be done to the stand before completion. The skeleton structure that you see under the length of the belly will be removed.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts135/121129tilt/
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Post by: OV135 on 11/30/2012 10:18 PM
Atlantis now resembles a life size model kit waiting to be assembled and painted. :)
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Post by: collectSPACE on 12/01/2012 03:43 AM
That is where I am confused, because the rendering of the display...

I think that's where a lot of people have run into problems, with all the shuttle displays. The renderings are only artists' concepts — not architectural or engineering plans — and are intended to give a general idea as to what the final exhibit may look like. They are very subject to change.
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Post by: wkann on 12/01/2012 04:38 PM
I don't understand why there is all this confusion about the renderings/ artist concepts. When it should be noted that regardless of the differences between the render and real exhibit, the KSC Visitor Center puts the other museums to shame when it comes to display the orbiters. In D.C. they just rolled Discovery in. In New York, they just let Enterprise go camping in tent. In Los Angeles, it looks like they just dumped Endeavour off, leaving her on the transporter. (But you got to give credit to the CSC for the awesome plan to display Endeavour vertically.) So I think that the KSC Visitor Complex gets the best display award. Where else will you be able see a shuttle that looks like it just left the ISS?
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Post by: Ares67 on 12/03/2012 10:56 AM
I don't understand why there is all this confusion about the renderings/ artist concepts. When it should be noted that regardless of the differences between the render and real exhibit, the KSC Visitor Center puts the other museums to shame when it comes to display the orbiters. In D.C. they just rolled Discovery in. In New York, they just let Enterprise go camping in tent. In Los Angeles, it looks like they just dumped Endeavour off, leaving her on the transporter. (But you got to give credit to the CSC for the awesome plan to display Endeavour vertically.) So I think that the KSC Visitor Complex gets the best display award. Where else will you be able see a shuttle that looks like it just left the ISS?

So, if everything works out the way it's planned, exhibits across the U.S. will show all major parts of a shuttle flight: Launch (Endeavour), in orbit (Atlantis) and landing (Discovery)... and Enterprise... ah, whatever!

I really like the KSCVC concept and how Atlantis is handled with so much TLC... and indeed CSC's plan is awesome!
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Post by: Sarah on 12/03/2012 04:26 PM
and Enterprise... ah, whatever!

On top NASA 905 on display! Now that would truly complete the shuttle retirement ;D But that's a whole other topic.

Looking forward to seeing the Atlantis display next year.
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Post by: yorky10 on 12/04/2012 05:36 PM
Is there anything firmed up for an opening date. Really need to get this in the diary :)
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Post by: wkann on 12/04/2012 09:30 PM
Is there anything firmed up for an opening date. Really need to get this in the diary :)


I've heard July 4, 2013, but I think that date is just floating around. Although that would a fitting date to open the exhibit.
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Post by: Overflow on 12/05/2012 07:42 PM
Is there anything firmed up for an opening date. Really need to get this in the diary :)


I've heard July 4, 2013, but I think that date is just floating around. Although that would a fitting date to open the exhibit.


July 4th would be awesome.
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Post by: Disco747 on 12/10/2012 03:59 PM
So, if everything works out the way it's planned, exhibits across the U.S. will show all major parts of a shuttle flight: Launch (Endeavour), in orbit (Atlantis) and landing (Discovery)... and Enterprise... ah, whatever!

I really like the KSCVC concept and how Atlantis is handled with so much TLC... and indeed CSC's plan is awesome!

I think Enterprise is meant to show the ALT free flights, specifically the ones where she had the tailcone on, even though her markings have been modified to more closely resemble her sisters.
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Post by: Rocket Science on 12/29/2012 01:16 AM
Nice video of Atlantis in her new home via CNN. :)

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2012/12/29/tsr-lkl-zarrella-nasa-atlantis-final-home.cnn
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Post by: Walter S on 12/29/2012 06:28 PM
I had the opportunity to tour the facility on Thursday. Some photos can be found at the link below.

http://scriptunasimages.wordpress.com/2012/12/27/work-continues-on-the-final-home-of-atlantis/ (http://scriptunasimages.wordpress.com/2012/12/27/work-continues-on-the-final-home-of-atlantis/)
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Post by: Rocket Science on 12/29/2012 06:44 PM
I had the opportunity to tour the facility on Thursday. Some photos can be found at the link below.

http://scriptunasimages.wordpress.com/2012/12/27/work-continues-on-the-final-home-of-atlantis/ (http://scriptunasimages.wordpress.com/2012/12/27/work-continues-on-the-final-home-of-atlantis/)
Wonderful photos Walter! Thank you for sharing them... :)
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Post by: Overflow on 12/29/2012 10:33 PM
Thank you BOTH for posting those links! Awesome pictures and video!

I can't wait until spring to finally see Atlantis "spread her wings".
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Post by: Walter S on 12/29/2012 10:38 PM
Its going to be a great display I believe. I look forward to seeing it finished!
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Post by: cygnusx112 on 01/04/2013 12:05 AM
Does anyone know if they will display the white room from the OPF with Atlantis? A lot of history with all of the signatures and I would love to see it displayed in a way that people can read them. Thanks!
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Post by: Overflow on 01/06/2013 01:23 PM
I heard that it will be on display. I don't know if people will get to walk in it, though.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 01/06/2013 08:32 PM
I hope it's on display but I hope you can't walk through it, it would be destroyed.
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Post by: Overflow on 01/07/2013 02:27 PM
True. I think KSCVC will keep it where you can look closely at it, but not walk in it. After all, just look at the measures they're doing just so no one can touch Atlantis' wing which is 7 feet off the ground.
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Post by: spacecane on 01/12/2013 10:35 AM
Will the ET Umbilical doors be attached/open for the display?  Obviously they can't be attached and closed since it is mounted on them but since it is displayed in a way to look like "on orbit" I was wondering if they removed them and will have the "ferry covers" over the umbilical connections.
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Post by: psloss on 01/12/2013 01:20 PM
Will the ET Umbilical doors be attached/open for the display?  Obviously they can't be attached and closed since it is mounted on them but since it is displayed in a way to look like "on orbit" I was wondering if they removed them and will have the "ferry covers" over the umbilical connections.
Noted here:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/10/atlantis-team-comforted-ksc-retirement/
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Post by: OV135 on 01/12/2013 01:24 PM
What will be done with the actual ET doors since they will be taken off? 

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Post by: DaveS on 01/12/2013 01:27 PM
What will be done with the actual ET doors since they will be taken off? 
They were taken off prior to the transfer to the VAB for the final time:
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Post by: Overflow on 01/12/2013 11:36 PM
Will they be on display?
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Post by: jacqmans on 02/21/2013 03:24 PM
From Spaceflight Now facebook page:

The Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex officials pose with Atlantis logo. Exhibit opens to the world June 29.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 02/21/2013 05:07 PM
'Space Shuttle Atlantis' exhibit gains logo, official opening date
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-022113a.html

NASA's final space shuttle to return from Earth orbit will be exhibited to the public in a facility that bears simply the retired orbiter's name, the Florida visitor center that has been entrusted with space shuttle Atlantis' display announced on Thursday (Feb. 21).

NASA's Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex in Florida also revealed the logo for its new 90,000 square-foot, $100 million "Space Shuttle Atlantis" exhibit, which will be used on monument signage at the entrance and on a variety of retail merchandise, marketing and promotional materials when the building opens to the public on June 29.

"Although the ["Space Shuttle Atlantis"] multimillion-dollar interactive exhibit encompasses much, much more than the display of Atlantis, there is no denying, she is truly the star of the show," Bill Moore, chief operating officer of the visitor complex, said.
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Post by: Overflow on 02/21/2013 06:20 PM
Dang. You guys beat me to it!

I love the logo. I'm so ready to see my favorite orbiter.
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Post by: gordo on 02/21/2013 08:03 PM
its missing the "A" ..lol
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Post by: DaveS on 02/21/2013 08:06 PM
its missing the "A" ..lol
The orbiter outline is supposed to the "A" in "Atlantis".
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Post by: wkann on 02/21/2013 10:56 PM
Today, the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex, revealed the logo for its new "Space Shuttle Atlantis" exhibit, they also announced that it will open to the public on June 29.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 02/22/2013 11:53 AM
Are there any updated pictures of the interior construction status? I forget when does Atlantis get her plastic taken off so they can prepare to open her bay doors?
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Post by: OV135 on 02/22/2013 02:07 PM
This photo shows the design of the exterior of the building looks to mimic the orbiter's tile pattern. 

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26176.0;attach=496300;image

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Post by: brettreds2k on 02/22/2013 02:12 PM
Yeah the orange is supposed to represent the fiery re entry she went through to come home at the end of each mission.
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Post by: Overflow on 02/22/2013 11:21 PM
Are there any updated pictures of the interior construction status? I forget when does Atlantis get her plastic taken off so they can prepare to open her bay doors?

Try checking this out..

https://www.facebook.com/KennedySpaceCenterVisitorComplex/app_190322544333196

KSCVC plans to remove Atlantis' wrap in May.
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Post by: Overflow on 02/22/2013 11:21 PM
Yeah the orange is supposed to represent the fiery re entry she went through to come home at the end of each mission.

And launch.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 02/23/2013 02:04 AM
And launch.

According to the Visitor Complex, the color choice was specifically meant to evoke re-entry.

A work of art in itself, the exterior of the Atlantis exhibit features two sweeping architectural elements, or "wings" representing the space shuttle’s launch and return. The outer layer of the building, which is being cloaked in iridescent hues of orange and gold, represents the fiery-glow of re-entry. The taller, internal wing of the building is being covered in a shimmering tile pattern in varying tones of gray designed to represent the tiled underside of the orbiter.

Launch is represented by the simulated/replica stack at the entranceway to the building.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 02/23/2013 02:06 AM
I forget when does Atlantis get her plastic taken off so they can prepare to open her bay doors?

Construction continues on schedule inside the exhibit as well. In May, Atlantis will be uncovered from its protective shrink wrap. The orbiter's cargo bay doors will be opened and a full-scale model of the Hubble Space Telescope will be installed inside the building along with some 60 other exhibits and artifacts.

http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-022113a.html

According to Visitor Complex officials, it will take two weeks to open the payload bay doors, from start to finish. It is a very slow, methodical process.
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Post by: jacqmans on 02/23/2013 09:55 AM
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Tim Macy, Delaware North Companies Parks and Resorts director of project development, speaks to news media representatives during the announcement of the opening date of the date the facility will officially open and for the unveiling of the exhibit's newly designed logo. The "Space Shuttle Atlantis" exhibit will open June 29, 2013. Last November, the space shuttle Atlantis made its historic final journey to its new home, traveling 10 miles from the Kennedy Space Center's Vehicle Assembly Building to the spaceport's visitor complex. The new $100 million Atlantis facility will be a 90,000-square-foot, interactive exhibit that tells the story of the 30-year Space Shuttle Program and highlights the future of space exploration. Photo credit: NASA/Jim Grossmann
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Post by: funkyjive on 03/04/2013 03:45 AM
First time posting on this site. I was thrilled to see one of the sites dedicated to one of my other interests cross over into spaceflight. Anyways, here are some construction photos from inside. (As a bonus some SpaceX CRS-2 launch pics). Credit to themeparkreview.

http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64963
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Post by: woods170 on 03/04/2013 12:25 PM
First time posting on this site. I was thrilled to see one of the sites dedicated to one of my other interests cross over into spaceflight. Anyways, here are some construction photos from inside. (As a bonus some SpaceX CRS-2 launch pics). Credit to themeparkreview.

http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64963

Welcome to the forum! And thanks for the pictures. Impressive!
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Post by: OV135 on 03/04/2013 01:31 PM
Great photos. :)

This new exhibit gives me an idea for a new diorama for an unbuilt orbiter model I have. :)
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Post by: Davejfb on 03/04/2013 07:10 PM
Does anyone have problems with the following link:

http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/atlantis.aspx

I can only see until February 19th. The rest is grey and it is not possible te see until today.

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Post by: collectSPACE on 03/06/2013 01:27 PM
Space shuttle Atlantis under wraps as exhibit's boosters begin to rise
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-030613a.html

With just about four months remaining before its public debut, the "Space Shuttle Atlantis" exhibit at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex in Florida is taking shape — both inside and out.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 03/06/2013 06:13 PM
With as close as she is to the railing, what will keep her protected from inaccurate people? Unless they plan on putting high glass panels around the 2nd level, I can see it now, kids throwing gum over the ledge, etc which would land on her wings. Do they plan on having high glass barriers around Atlantis to keep her shielded from society as a whole?

Also, do they still plan to have a giant screen on the back wall showing video of the earth rotating behind her to give the feel of orbit?
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Post by: collectSPACE on 03/06/2013 06:39 PM
Atlantis is just out of reach of visitors — and yes, there will be a glass railing along the edge, but were anyone to throw anything, it would just land on the people below.

And yes, there is a tremendous screen on the wall behind Atlantis' tail that will be projecting a high-definition view of the Earth rotating 'below.'

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Post by: brettreds2k on 03/06/2013 06:49 PM
Thanks for the answer, just seems with her OMS Pods so close to the edge of the platform and her wings just under it, I could see kids throwing things since she is literally it seems within arms reach ya know?
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Post by: collectSPACE on 03/06/2013 06:57 PM
The same could be said for any number of other spacecraft displays at Kennedy and just about every other museum around the world, yet you don't see gum stuck to the Apollo command modules or pennies lying on the wings of the Wright Flyer or any other such problems. That's why there are docents and guards and for that matter, parents.
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Post by: JAFO on 03/06/2013 10:20 PM
Wright Flyer is out of reach, Columbia is inside a plastic bubble. The NASM had to remove their Jenny from display in 2009 because of damage from people using it for target practice. It is now back on display at Udvar-Hazy.   http://blog.nasm.si.edu/aviation/saving-jenny/ (http://blog.nasm.si.edu/aviation/saving-jenny/)


I used to volunteer at an aviation museum where all the aircraft could (and did) fly. Despite all the signs, docents, mechanics etc, you'd be surprised at the crap we'd find in the airplanes, jammed up inside wheel wheels, engine intakes/exhausts, etc., and what people (not just kids, but adults too) would do to them.
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Post by: Sarah on 03/08/2013 05:22 PM
There were a couple incidents of people throwing stuff at Atlantis during the rollover at KSC. I was getting quite irritated with it.  >:(
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Post by: DaveS on 03/08/2013 05:56 PM
Columbia is inside a plastic bubble.
I think you mean Enterprise. Columbia sadly is a collection of debris housed inside the VAB.
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Post by: wolfpack on 03/08/2013 06:22 PM
Columbia is inside a plastic bubble.
I think you mean Enterprise. Columbia sadly is a collection of debris housed inside the VAB.

He means Apollo 11 Command Module Columbia. It is inside a plastic shell at the NASM entrance in DC. To the right is John Glenn's Mercury capsule and to the left is Ed White's Gemini. All are in protective plastic.
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Post by: jacqmans on 03/24/2013 03:51 PM
KSC-2013-1872 (03/19/2013) --- CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- The Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex has added the name "Atlantis" and American flag to the exterior of the "Space Shuttle Atlantis" exhibit scheduled to open June 29, 2013. Last November, the space shuttle Atlantis made its historic final journey to its new home, traveling 10 miles from the Kennedy Space Center's Vehicle Assembly Building to the spaceport's visitor complex. The new $100 million Atlantis facility will be a 90,000-square-foot, interactive exhibit that tells the story of the 30-year Space Shuttle Program and highlights the future of space exploration. Photo credit: NASA/Jim Grossmann
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 03/24/2013 10:54 PM
Very nice touch.  I like that a lot.  Looks just like the name on the side of her (intended).
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 03/25/2013 11:37 AM
KSC-2013-1872 (03/19/2013) --- CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- The Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex has added the name "Atlantis" and American flag to the exterior of the "Space Shuttle Atlantis" exhibit scheduled to open June 29, 2013. Last November, the space shuttle Atlantis made its historic final journey to its new home, traveling 10 miles from the Kennedy Space Center's Vehicle Assembly Building to the spaceport's visitor complex. The new $100 million Atlantis facility will be a 90,000-square-foot, interactive exhibit that tells the story of the 30-year Space Shuttle Program and highlights the future of space exploration. Photo credit: NASA/Jim Grossmann

I really like that signage!
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Post by: Overflow on 03/27/2013 01:14 PM
I love it!
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Post by: TheFallen on 03/30/2013 03:19 PM
Thanks for the answer, just seems with her OMS Pods so close to the edge of the platform and her wings just under it, I could see kids throwing things since she is literally it seems within arms reach ya know?

If you think Atlantis is vulnerable, look at Endeavour inside her Pavilion. When I visited the California Science Center last November, I can recall many times where kids were told "not to jump and try to touch" the shuttle. Hopefully this won't be the case when the orbiter is placed vertically in her new exhibit years from now
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Post by: JayP on 03/31/2013 11:58 PM
Very nice touch.  I like that a lot.  Looks just like the name on the side of her (intended).

FYI for those who don't know, the font is Helvetica

http://www.helveticafilm.com/
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Post by: TimSnyder on 04/01/2013 05:51 PM
I was at the Udvar Hazy Center on Friday and noticed some large balls of something on Discovery's wings.  It was either GIANT dust bunnies or chewing gum.  She could definitely use a good dusting once in a while.
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Post by: jkumpire on 04/01/2013 06:31 PM
That building looks nice, but I won't ever step in there. Even now those ships should be flying and working instead they are as worthless as the Jupiter booster in the outside missile garden, a monument to the stupidity of the US Government (as if we needed another one). 
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Post by: pargoo on 04/01/2013 10:16 PM
     I second those sentiments.
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Post by: Overflow on 04/02/2013 01:49 AM
It's sad to know that 2-3 years ago, these great ships were launching into LEO at 17,500mph, and reentering the Earth as a fireball, but now just sitting.. Quietly collecting dust.
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Post by: woods170 on 04/02/2013 08:53 AM
This is an updates thread.

Please, take the sentiments to a more appropriate thread. Thank you.
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Post by: OV135 on 04/02/2013 03:37 PM
Hows is the exhibit construction going? Any news on when the other pieces will be moved in like the OAA or GOX arm? 

IMO with regard to retard using our beloved space vehicles as target practice. No. Maybe it is best to put Atlantis and her sisters behind lexicon panels as is done with the Apollo capsules. To add I'd fine the parents of these idiot kids with a huge fine for damaging government property.  Besides given the last time I was at KSC, you never mess with guards with guns as some moron tried to do and was arrested and thrown out.  Punk morons. Yeah some idiot was tossing gum and rocks at one of the Atlas boosters. Well of course my visit was some months after 9/11 and no one was tolerating any sort of idiocy, hence the guys with guns guarding the place.   

Anyway how is the construction going on the stack that will sit outside the exhibit?

You know one thing that can be added to the visitor interactive areas is a life size working shuttle RMS mock up. Similar to the trainer at JSC the crew uses to operate the real shuttle arm.   Will a replica of the Mir ODS module be part of the new exhibit? I mean given the history of Mir with Atlantis I think adding this would be a nice touch.   Atlantis did deliver the module to Mir and was also the first shuttle to dock to Mir.

Well I mean guys why not have with each orbiter something highlighting  the top missions people remember for each orbiter? Atlantis has Mir, Galileo, Magellan, and others to her record. Why not add something about these flights to the exhibit?



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Post by: Overflow on 04/02/2013 05:21 PM
I think KSCVC will do a great job showcasing Atlantis. I can't see why they wouldn't pay tribute to Mir.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 04/02/2013 05:51 PM
Hows is the exhibit construction going? Any news on when the other pieces will be moved in like the OAA or GOX arm?

The GOX arm was installed before Atlantis arrived; the OAA is in Houston (http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-101811a.html).

The other exhibits will be moved in beginning in May. 

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Anyway how is the construction going on the stack that will sit outside the exhibit?

The steel skeleton for the SRBs began being assembled (http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-030613a.html) in early March. Construction is expected to be completed in June.

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Why not add something about these flights to the exhibit?

I don't have details, but the Visitor Complex has said that Atlantis' flight history will be represented in the exhibit.
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Post by: jeff122670 on 04/03/2013 02:55 AM
LOVE THAT BEENIE CAP!!!!!!!
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Post by: OV135 on 04/04/2013 03:05 PM
Hmm, too bad there is no way to have the GOX hood move.  Well given the exhibit, it would look really cool.  This idea based off of seeing a working plane in a museum I went to some years ago.  The entire jet functioned when visitors pressed buttons in it's exhibit. The elevons worked, landing gear cycled. 

Here is a vid someone posted of the jet.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n9pYq3wuhs

Yeah for the Atlantis exhibit seeing the Beanie cap work would make one nice interactive for visitors. Press a button and it will move. (under an electric motor of course, not hydraulic like it did at LC-39B. )
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Post by: jmcgauley on 04/09/2013 11:54 PM
Anyone have any insight into whether or not construction is generally on time? Planning a trip to the Cocoa Beach area that would begin just a few days after the June 29th target date. Would hate to be in town and miss it.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 04/11/2013 03:08 PM
Construction is still on track.  From a release issued by the Visitor Complex yesterday:

...Space Shuttle Atlantis, the new home of the priceless Atlantis spacecraft that opens June 29 at Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 04/11/2013 08:28 PM
Using a 200-foot-tall crane, the construction crew working to finish the Space Shuttle Atlantis exhibit at NASA's Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex successfully installed lower portions of two full-size, high-fidelity solid rocket boosters (SRBs) on Thursday, April 11, 2013.  When vertically mated with a high-fidelity model of the shuttle's external tank (ET), the boosters will form a dramatic, 184-foot-tall gateway under which visitors will pass to visit the Atlantis attraction opening June 29, 2013 in Florida. (Video credit: Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJzgTmFpFIY
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Post by: Zpoxy on 04/18/2013 01:09 AM
Saw these in the parking lot for the old badging station on 405. They were just setting up the convoy escort vans when I snapped these.
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Post by: Overflow on 04/23/2013 08:35 PM
Just saw on KSCVC's instagram that Space Shuttle Atlantis will be unwrapped this week!
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Post by: brettreds2k on 04/24/2013 12:57 PM
That is great news!! Cant wait to see the shrink wrap taken off her!!
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Post by: Overflow on 04/24/2013 09:41 PM
Then it'll be time to take care of the windows and open the payload.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 04/25/2013 03:30 PM
She is being unwrapped, Spaceflightnow has pictures on their Facebook page showing the nose is now unwrapped and they are still unwrapping her.
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Post by: Davejfb on 04/25/2013 04:01 PM
She is being unwrapped, Spaceflightnow has pictures on their Facebook page showing the nose is now unwrapped and they are still unwrapping her.
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Post by: HelixSpiral on 04/25/2013 04:11 PM
Good afternoon, Atlantis! Great to see her.
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Post by: Overflow on 04/25/2013 05:49 PM
Any news on when the payload bay doors will be opened?
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Post by: brettreds2k on 04/25/2013 07:02 PM
I think in the coming week or so??
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Post by: Overflow on 04/25/2013 07:36 PM
Pictures from Spaceflightnow's Facebook.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 04/25/2013 08:24 PM
Any news on when the payload bay doors will be opened?

Work will begin next month (May) and take two to three weeks to complete.
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Post by: Overflow on 04/25/2013 08:35 PM
Any news on when the payload bay doors will be opened?

Work will begin next month (May) and take two to three weeks to complete.

Thanks for the update!
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Post by: SalemHanna on 04/25/2013 08:40 PM
She's looking really good again now the wrap's been taken off! Even with a plain black background as shown in the photo, this exhibit would draw in the crowds. Roll on June...
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Post by: Overflow on 04/25/2013 08:54 PM
She's looking really good again now the wrap's been taken off! Even with a plain black background as shown in the photo, this exhibit would draw in the crowds. Roll on June...

Agreed. Can't wait til I see her in July..
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Post by: collectSPACE on 04/25/2013 11:52 PM
Revealing Atlantis: Shrink-wrapped space shuttle uncovered for display
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-042513a.html

How do you un-shrink-wrap a space shuttle?

As workers at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex learned Thursday (April 25), very slowly and very carefully.

NASA's retired space shuttle Atlantis, which since November has been covered in 16,000 square feet (1,486 square meters) of white plastic was partially revealed Thursday at the Florida spaceport's visitor center. The planned day-long process to unwrap the orbiter stretched into two — work will pick up again Friday morning — and required cherry pickers, vacuum cleaners, box cutters and patience.

"This is the very first step in unveiling Atlantis," said Tim Macy, director of project development and construction for Delaware North Parks and Resorts, which runs the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex for NASA. "She has been in a plastic 16-millimeter-thick cocoon."


Photo gallery: http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-042513a.html
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Post by: psloss on 04/25/2013 11:59 PM
Nice -- thanks, Robert.

Revealing Atlantis: Shrink-wrapped space shuttle uncovered for display
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-042513a.html

How do you un-shrink-wrap a space shuttle?

As workers at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex learned Thursday (April 25), very slowly and very carefully.

NASA's retired space shuttle Atlantis, which since November has been covered in 16,000 square feet (1,486 square meters) of white plastic was partially revealed Thursday at the Florida spaceport's visitor center. The planned day-long process to unwrap the orbiter stretched into two — work will pick up again Friday morning — and required cherry pickers, vacuum cleaners, box cutters and patience.

"This is the very first step in unveiling Atlantis," said Tim Macy, director of project development and construction for Delaware North Parks and Resorts, which runs the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex for NASA. "She has been in a plastic 16-millimeter-thick cocoon."


Photo gallery: http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-042513a.html
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Post by: Rocket Science on 04/26/2013 12:28 AM
Good to see the "old girl" again... :)
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Post by: Overflow on 04/26/2013 10:18 AM
Hopefully we'll be able to see the rest of her today.
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Post by: Rocket Science on 04/26/2013 10:24 AM
Saw this video this morning, enjoy! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Xjp1HXPHA
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Post by: brettreds2k on 04/26/2013 12:33 PM
They are working on her belly this morning already
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Post by: Overflow on 04/26/2013 01:12 PM
Thanks for the updates. The WiFi I'm on has a ton of stuff blocked so NSF is the only way I can get updates.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 04/26/2013 02:19 PM
Here are a few posted on Facebook this morning
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Post by: Overflow on 04/26/2013 02:31 PM
It's awesome to see how close people will be able to get to Atlantis.

Any word on how they're protect her left wing?
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Post by: brettreds2k on 04/26/2013 03:14 PM
Thats one question I have been asking, to me if you can get right to the edge of the upper floor (I know they will have glass barrier or something there) but what keeps people from throwing things on her wing, I mean its literally right there!!
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Post by: wkann on 04/26/2013 05:52 PM
So the other day, I was watching the final closing of Atlantis's hatch, and noticed the yellow scaffolding-like structure in the middle of the mid deck. Based on the angle, it looks like its a platform that could make it easier to move around the orbiter once its on the 43.21 degree tilt. Now of course it would be for occasional surveying of the orbiter (not for the public.) It would still be neat to have to rappel into the cargo bay, then crawl threw the airlock to get inside, since the main hatch is not accessible. Can anyone confirm this?
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Post by: psloss on 04/26/2013 06:58 PM
It would still be neat to have to rappel into the cargo bay, then crawl threw the airlock to get inside, since the main hatch is not accessible. Can anyone confirm this?
There was another hatch that goes from the crew module to the external airlock -- if that's open or no longer installed, then maybe it's plausible; if that's there and it's closed and locked, I don't think you're getting much farther than the faux airlock.
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Post by: Space Pete on 04/26/2013 07:04 PM
There was another hatch that goes from the crew module to the external airlock -- if that's open or no longer installed, then maybe it's plausible; if that's there and it's closed and locked, I don't think you're getting much farther than the faux airlock.

Based on photos prior to final hatch closure in the OPF, I believe the hatch in question is removed (likely to save weight).
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Post by: collectSPACE on 04/26/2013 07:29 PM
It would still be neat to have to rappel into the cargo bay...

No need to rappel — the Space Shuttle Atlantis building is equipped with two window-washer like buckets/platforms that lower from the roof designed for the specific reason of lowering workers into the payload bay (for the occasional cleaning, for those worried about pennies and other items being thrown inside). 

As for then climbing into the crew cabin, according to staff at the Visitor Complex, there are no plans for anyone to go back inside.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 04/26/2013 07:29 PM
Beautiful picture posted just now by KSC on Facebook
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Post by: collectSPACE on 04/26/2013 07:30 PM
Atlantis exposed: Space shuttle now fully unwrapped for NASA exhibit
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-042613a.html

Space shuttle Atlantis is ready for its spotlight — well, almost.

The retired NASA orbiter, which is set to go on public display June 29 at NASA's Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex in Florida, was fully revealed Friday (April 26) after workers spent two days peeling off its protective shrink-wrap cover of the past five months.

"It looks fantastic," Tim Macy, director of project development and construction for Delaware North Parks and Resorts, which runs the visitor complex for NASA, said after seeing Atlantis unwrapped. "It looks better than I thought it was going to look."

"It looks completely different with the plastic on it than the plastic off," Macy told collectSPACE.com. "But this is the way it is supposed to look. It looks so much like the [exhibit's conceptual] drawings."


Photo gallery: http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-042613a.html
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Post by: brettreds2k on 04/26/2013 07:31 PM
The display is going to be amazing!!

Will they paint the beams holding her or are they planning on doing anything to make the beams less just steel beams looking?
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Post by: collectSPACE on 04/26/2013 07:38 PM
Will they paint the beams holding her or are they planning on doing anything to make the beams less just steel beams looking?

The pedestals will be painted the same midnight blue as the surrounding walls, such that they fade from view (keep in mind, you're also looking at the orbiter under work lights and not the theatrical lighting they plan for the finished exhibit).
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Post by: brettreds2k on 04/26/2013 08:08 PM
Gotcha, Yeah I figured lighting would change but was hoping they would try and blend the beams a bit, so excited to hear they are. Thank you so much, and great article you just posted to about today's activities.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/26/2013 08:29 PM
Man, she looks great from above.  Just as if she was coming home on the HAC, rolling to the left.  Can't wait for this exhibit to open.
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Post by: Lee Jay on 04/26/2013 08:45 PM
Thats one question I have been asking, to me if you can get right to the edge of the upper floor (I know they will have glass barrier or something there) but what keeps people from throwing things on her wing, I mean its literally right there!!

All the other people there that would beat them to a pulp if they did.

It's no different at Udvar Hazy.  It would be easy to toss stuff on the wings.  But no one does.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 04/26/2013 08:49 PM
There was another hatch that goes from the crew module to the external airlock -- if that's open or no longer installed, then maybe it's plausible; if that's there and it's closed and locked, I don't think you're getting much farther than the faux airlock.

Based on photos prior to final hatch closure in the OPF, I believe the hatch in question is removed (likely to save weight).

When we were allowed in for the media opportunity, they explained that there was a faux airlock in place, not the real one, that was going to stay for the exhibit, however there would be no entrance back to the cabin (as Robert pointed out).  Here's a shot looking back at what would be the payload bay, if the airlock was there.
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Post by: catdlr on 04/26/2013 10:59 PM
Shuttle Atlantis Unwrapped & Revealed at Kennedy Visitor Center

Published on Apr 26, 2013
Protective shrink-wrap encasing space shuttle Atlantis was removed today revealing the iconic orbiter in its new home at NASA's Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex in Florida. Shortly after Atlantis moved to the Visitor Complex from Kennedy in November 2012, the covering was installed to protect the vehicle during construction of the "Space Shuttle Atlantis" exhibit. Within the next few weeks, the payload bay doors are set to be opened and the robotic arm installed to showcase Atlantis as if it were flying in space. The grand opening of "Space Shuttle Atlantis" is set for June 29.

time: 17:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB8T2F-kcv8
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Post by: Lee Jay on 04/26/2013 11:17 PM
Interesting.  All of the spectators are wearing hard hats, but 4 of the 5 people in the lifts are not.
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Post by: wkann on 04/26/2013 11:22 PM
Just unreal
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Post by: wkann on 04/26/2013 11:24 PM
A lot more were posted at http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm
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Post by: Overflow on 04/27/2013 02:59 PM
I can't wait til they take the window covers off.
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Post by: JayP on 04/29/2013 01:16 PM
There was another hatch that goes from the crew module to the external airlock -- if that's open or no longer installed, then maybe it's plausible; if that's there and it's closed and locked, I don't think you're getting much farther than the faux airlock.

Based on photos prior to final hatch closure in the OPF, I believe the hatch in question is removed (likely to save weight).

I was inside on the last press day before they closed Atlantis up to move her out of the OPF for the last time and got the see the interior arangementsand ask the USA techs about them. The mockup ODS does not have any real "hatches", just a fabric cover that is velcroed on over the opening to the payload bay and the port side of the "floor" was built with the 43 deg angle so you could stand on it. The interior hatch was removed since the hinge mechanism couldn't support the open hatch at that angle. The yellow scafolding lets you stand in the mid deck and access a ladder that leads up thru the starboard side interdeck access to the flight deck. Up there, you would have to brace yourself against the side pannels on the port side, but everything that could be damaged (like the sky genie pouches) was removed. The whole arrangement is to alllow maintenace and inspection on the flight deck. Apparently there will be functioning lights up there to allow people to see the inside from the balcony.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 04/29/2013 01:25 PM
Apparently there will be functioning lights up there to allow people to see the inside from the balcony.

That may have been the plan at some point, but according to Tim Macy, director of project development and construction for the exhibit, there will be no lights inside Atlantis as a result of the fire suppression requirements that come along with adding any type of lighting inside the orbiter.
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Post by: OV135 on 04/29/2013 03:55 PM
Man, it looks amazing. All that is missing is the big movie screen showing a pilot's view of Atlantis landing. :)  It would compliment the angle of Atlantis as if she is in her final turn to line up with the runway.

I plan to see OV-104 in person later this year. I'll get plenty of photos of her in the new exhibit. Mainly for my own use as an artist to draw her.
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 04/29/2013 04:46 PM
She does look great with her jaunty angle! :)
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Post by: John44 on 04/29/2013 05:27 PM
Space Shuttle Atlantis Revealed
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8229
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Post by: brettreds2k on 04/29/2013 07:06 PM
She does look like there is a coat of dust on her even though the wrap was on, is that just the lighting or did some construction dust manage to get under there, and if so how will they wipe Atlantis down?
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Post by: collectSPACE on 04/29/2013 07:33 PM
She does look like there is a coat of dust on her even though the wrap was on, is that just the lighting or did some construction dust manage to get under there, and if so how will they wipe Atlantis down?

That's not dust, that its post-flight appearance. But they will be gently wiping down the orbiter before opening less any dust settles between now and June 29.
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Post by: catdlr on 05/02/2013 07:48 PM
Workers Take the Wraps Off Atlantis

Published on May 2, 2013
A plastic covering placed over space shuttle Atlantis to protect it from construction dust and debris was removed to reveal the historic spacecraft as construction of its new exhibit hall continues at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFpVGjiPW0w
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Post by: Overflow on 05/03/2013 07:16 PM
I just had this picture pop up on one of my social media sites..

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Post by: wkann on 05/03/2013 10:34 PM
Work on the repleca SRB's outside the Space Shuttle Atlantis Attraction is nearly complete. Next comes the replica External Fuel Tank. Looks amazing.
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Post by: Aobrien on 05/04/2013 03:15 AM
I think it's decided, no one will get to complain that KSC received an orbiter. It is truly putting up a world class exhibit. The only one that has impressed me of the three. Definitely incredible, can't wait to see it this summer.
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Post by: Overflow on 05/05/2013 11:29 PM
Work on the repleca SRB's outside the Space Shuttle Atlantis Attraction is nearly complete. Next comes the replica External Fuel Tank. Looks amazing.

This exhibit is going to be awesome..
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Post by: psloss on 05/06/2013 07:14 PM
NASA Kennedy PAO has published a set of stills taken when Atlantis first arrived at KSC on 13 April 1985.  Links to the first and last in the set:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=65137
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=65145

(The descriptions unfortunately still have the error on overland transport date, which was actually 9 April 1985.)
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Post by: Overflow on 05/06/2013 11:54 PM
Wow! Great find!

She looks so clean.
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Post by: wkann on 05/07/2013 03:18 AM
Looks like Atlantis’s payload bay doors will be opening very soon.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 05/07/2013 12:01 PM
Looks like they have the glass barrier up around the walkway now to!! Its all coming together!!
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/07/2013 12:35 PM
Looks very impressive.

NASA Kennedy / KSC ‏@NASAKennedy 10m
An aerial view of the Shuttle Atlantis exhibit at the @ExploreSpaceKSC  where the exhibit is under construction. pic.twitter.com/9tLpCRJAXe
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Post by: Space Pete on 05/07/2013 12:44 PM
Looks like something could be getting ready to happen.

Webcam link: http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/atlantis-earthcam.aspx
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Post by: brettreds2k on 05/07/2013 01:06 PM
The right bay door looks like it has moved a tad!!! ITS TIME!!
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Post by: Space Pete on 05/07/2013 01:08 PM
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Post by: brettreds2k on 05/07/2013 01:30 PM
Once the doors are opened, will they be able to remove the yellow bars that were needed to support the opening or will those need to stay on in order for the wires to be attached to the ceiling to hold the weight? If they do remove them, where will they attach the wires on the cargo bay doors?
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Post by: brettreds2k on 05/07/2013 02:03 PM
At this rate they may have the door open more than halfway by the end of the day, they are making pretty quick progress
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Post by: Space Pete on 05/07/2013 02:05 PM
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 05/07/2013 02:18 PM
Once the doors are opened, will they be able to remove the yellow bars...

The yellow bars, known as strongbacks, are remaining attached. According to the exhibit planners, the strongbacks will be hidden from view given the way Atlantis is displayed.

As of 10:05 a.m. EDT, the starboard door is now (more or less) midway open.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 05/07/2013 02:44 PM
Wow, they are going much faster than they planned? I know earlier they thought 1-2 weeks to get them all they way open, but they are half way with the first one in just 3 hours  ;D
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Post by: Space Pete on 05/07/2013 03:10 PM
This will be the last ever time that a Space Shuttle's PLBDs are opened - ever.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 05/07/2013 03:16 PM
Looks like the right bay door is fully open now.
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Post by: Space Pete on 05/07/2013 03:18 PM
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Post by: cautionjump on 05/07/2013 03:21 PM
Does anyone know if the kuband antenna and radiators will be deployed?

And will they leave the payload bay empty?
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/07/2013 03:21 PM
This will be the last ever time that a Space Shuttle's PLBDs are opened - ever.

According to the California Science Center, one or both of Endeavour's doors may be opened when the orbiter is displayed vertically in 2017. Also, the Smithsonian has said it may someday consider opening Discovery's doors.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/07/2013 03:26 PM
And will they leave the payload bay empty?

Other than installing/deploying the replica Canadarm, nothing else will be added to the payload bay.
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Post by: cautionjump on 05/07/2013 03:34 PM
Do you know anything about the kuband antenna and radiators? Does the orbiter need to be powered to open them?

Thats interesting about Discovery, why are they considering opening the doors one day?
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/07/2013 03:39 PM
Robert's the man with the answers for this (and I'm sure we all appreciate it)....but I'm pretty certain her powered up days were over before she left for the exhibit.

OPF flows had them open the PLBDs "like" this because the orbiter could only manager it themselves in zero G. The motors aren't strong enough to open them on the ground.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 05/07/2013 03:40 PM
They will not have the KU Band Antenna deployed, just the replica robotic arm. Atlantis is not powered to open the bay doors for this.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/07/2013 03:41 PM
The latest artist rendering does not show the forward radiators deployed, but as they weren't deployed on every mission, it wouldn't detract if they are not.

And as Chris mentioned, Atlantis is no longer powered (and cannot be), and based on USA's mechanical systems training manual, the radiators need to be powered to be deployed.

I haven't heard plans for the Ku Band antenna one way or the other.

The talk (admittedly more than a year ago) about someday opening Discovery's bay was for an enhanced display. To my knowledge, there are no concrete (or even tentative) plans to do so, but it is/was at least a possibility.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 05/07/2013 03:50 PM
I know when they stowed the KU Band Antenna before final power down, they stated that it would not be deployed again.
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Post by: cautionjump on 05/07/2013 03:51 PM
I didnt know the forward radiators werent deployed on every mission!

Not to stray too off topic, but I know the Smithsonian wanted Discovery pretty complete for research purposes, so is any active research going on with Discovery? Does anyone have access to the interior since NASA closed her up?

I may start a thread under Discovery section, but was curious is shes just sitting there looking pretty, or if anyone is actively working with her.
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Post by: cautionjump on 05/07/2013 03:53 PM
I wonder what it would take if one day they decided they wanted to power up one of the orbiters again for some reason.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/07/2013 03:58 PM
I know when they stowed the KU Band Antenna before final power down, they stated that it would not be deployed again.

Well, this discussion was well timed. :)

Between 11:30 and 11:35 a.m. EDT, you can see (http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/atlantis.aspx) the Ku Band antenna was swung out.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 05/07/2013 04:00 PM
Well I stand corrected!! HAHA. They did say that though when I was watching a video back last year when they put it back in its stowed position, I promise they said that!! LOL
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/07/2013 04:04 PM
Does anyone have access to the interior since NASA closed her up?

They entered Discovery after it arrived at the Udvar-Hazy Center to reconfigure the crew cabin (stowing some of the crew seats to improve access; the seats couldn't be stowed during the ferry flight).

I don't believe any active research or study is being performed, but that is a question to pose to the Space History staff at the National Air and Space Museum.

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I wonder what it would take if one day they decided they wanted to power up one of the orbiters again for some reason.

Per NASA, that's no longer an option.
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Post by: psloss on 05/07/2013 04:07 PM
I know when they stowed the KU Band Antenna before final power down, they stated that it would not be deployed again.
That may have been in the context of NASA/USA orbiter processing (in the OPFs).  Different rules may apply in this setting and with the vehicle deactivated.
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Post by: cautionjump on 05/07/2013 04:08 PM
Does anyone have access to the interior since NASA closed her up?

They entered Discovery after it arriving at the Udvar-Hazy Center to reconfigure the crew cabin (stowing some of the crew seats to improve access; the seats couldn't be stowed during the ferry flight).

I don't believe any active research or study is being performed, but that is a question to pose to the Space History staff at the National Air and Space Museum.

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I wonder what it would take if one day they decided they wanted to power up one of the orbiters again for some reason.

Per NASA, that's no longer an option.

Yeah I remember reading that they wanted access in the cabin for future research, so I was wondering if they ever did. Ill have to send them an email to find out. Its sad not hearing much about Discovery these days.

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Post by: cautionjump on 05/07/2013 04:11 PM
Im pretty excited to see Atlantis in person finally! I was at the Welcome Discovery day, and got to see Endeavour in the VAB right before she left for Cali.

On a side note, I have a thermal blanket that flew on Left Pod 4 when it was attached to Discovery. So Ill get to see that pod very close now that its on Atlantis! :)
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Post by: cautionjump on 05/07/2013 09:55 PM
I noticed there are photos from up above the second level, will that be accessible to the public?
Will it just be ground floor, and first level, or will there be higher vantage points too?
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/07/2013 10:24 PM
The photos from above Atlantis are taken from catwalks that are not publicly-accessible.
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Post by: TheFallen on 05/08/2013 12:39 AM
The photos from above Atlantis are taken from catwalks that are not publicly-accessible.

Well that's too bad. Despite the fact I'm only 30 miles from Endeavour, I'd travel back to Florida again just to get this great angle on Atlantis :P
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Post by: Alpha Control on 05/08/2013 12:50 AM
The photos from above Atlantis are taken from catwalks that are not publicly-accessible.

Perhaps they could add a separate viewing platform at a future date? Similar to the one at the Smithsonian, that you can climb to obtain an elevated view of Discovery.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/08/2013 03:15 AM
There is an upper level of sorts, though it is further back from Atlantis. You can see it in the webcam shots. The top of the stairs leading up to that level is in the lower right corner of the frame.

But one of the reasons Atlantis was tilted 43 degrees to one side was to give visitors a view of the top of the orbiter without having to elevate them.
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Post by: MichaelJohnston on 05/08/2013 05:01 PM
But one of the reasons Atlantis was tilted 43 degrees to one side was to give visitors a view of the top of the orbiter without having to elevate them.

Hey Robert! Were there any considerations for the way in which Atlantis would be tilted to accommodate access to the cockpit or payload bay for museum caretakers? I heard rumors that a tilted platform may be placed in the payload bay, if not in the cockpit as well.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/08/2013 05:21 PM
As noted earlier in this thread (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=26176.msg1044406#msg1044406) and shown in this video (http://bit.ly/10GFaSX), there was a tilted platform installed on Atlantis' middeck before its hatch was closed and the orbiter was moved to the visitor complex.

According to the exhibit's planners, there are two window washer-like bucket/platforms that can be lowered from the ceiling to give workers access to the payload bay but they said, there are no plans at this time to enter the crew cabin. Also, as pointed out earlier (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=26176.msg1044478#msg1044478), the airlock in Atlantis' bay is a replica, and may block access to the middeck.
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Post by: psloss on 05/09/2013 12:04 AM
A smaller set of historical pictures (four) from Atlantis' first launch campaign has been published by NASA Kennedy PAO; a couple from lift-to-mate activities and a couple of the 51-J vehicle arriving at Pad A.  First and last links:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=65213
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=65216
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Post by: OV135 on 05/09/2013 12:08 AM
When will the other Payload Bay door be opened? 
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Post by: Overflow on 05/09/2013 09:21 PM
I just saw a picture on Instagram on them doing something with the yellow bars. Looks like they're getting ready.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/10/2013 02:20 PM
The port, or left-side door was opened Friday morning (May 10).

There is still considerable work to be done, removing the D-clamps, the strongbacks (which I now hear will be removed) and attaching the support wires to the doors (not necessarily in that order).
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Post by: jok on 05/10/2013 02:54 PM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2yl028j.gif)

(http://i43.tinypic.com/1y35va.gif)

jok

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Post by: OV135 on 05/10/2013 05:26 PM
Awesome animations of  Atlantis Jok. :)

When will the replica RMS be installed? Technically it's the last thing to do with the orbiter itself.

When will the replica external tank begin construction for the front entrance to the museum? 
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Post by: Aobrien on 05/10/2013 09:38 PM
When can we reserve tickets for opening day? Cause I know I will be there front and center. This exhibit is looking unbelievable.
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Post by: Overflow on 05/11/2013 12:09 AM
When will the window covers be taken off?
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/11/2013 12:33 AM
When will the replica RMS be installed?

When can we reserve tickets for opening day?

When will the window covers be taken off?

Are we there yet, Dad? Are we? Are we there yet? How about now? ;)
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Post by: Lar on 05/11/2013 04:21 AM
Are we there yet, Dad? Are we? Are we there yet? How about now? ;)

Boys and their toys.
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Post by: russianhalo117 on 05/14/2013 08:56 PM
Here is the latest official NASA-KSC picture:

Caption:
KSC-2013-2315 (05/10/2013) --- CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- At the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex in Florida, technicians monitor the progress as space shuttle Atlantis’ payload bay doors are fully opened. Atlantis is being prepared for display in the “Space Shuttle Atlantis” exhibit, a 90,000-square-foot facility, scheduled to open June 29, 2013. The new $100 million facility will include interactive exhibits that tell the story of the 30-year Space Shuttle Program and highlight the future of space exploration. Visitors to the exhibit will get an up close look at Atlantis with its payload bay doors open, similar to how it looked in space. Photo credit: NASA/Kim Shiflett
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Post by: DMeader on 05/14/2013 10:25 PM
Are the star tracker doors going to stay closed? I assume there's nothing behind them any more.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 05/14/2013 11:10 PM
I know when they stowed the KU Band Antenna before final power down, they stated that it would not be deployed again.
That may have been in the context of NASA/USA orbiter processing (in the OPFs).  Different rules may apply in this setting and with the vehicle deactivated.


as we can see in the new photo, looks like the ku band antenna is deployed.
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Post by: mtakala24 on 05/14/2013 11:21 PM
I had high hopes for this display, and this is better than I expected. If I ever make a trip to the US, this will make it close to go to Florida as a destination in addition or even instead of NY and DC/Dulles/Udvar-Hazy. Although, an East Coast roadtrip would be great :)

I hope they'll go all the way and include star trackers etc, so that it would look as authentic as possible.
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Post by: roma847 on 05/15/2013 06:46 PM
Here is the latest KSC Live Web Cam (http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/atlantis.aspx) photo from today:

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8978/atlantis150513.jpg)

Meanwhile the opened payload bay doors were clamped by long counter ropes with the hall roof. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/coolio.gif)

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
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Post by: wkann on 05/16/2013 12:04 AM
The replica External Fuel Tank is taking shape.  :)
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Post by: Overflow on 05/16/2013 01:05 AM
One thing that'll be cool to see aerial shots of is the stack.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 05/16/2013 04:12 PM
Looks like the yellow clamps and strong backs have been removed by looking at todays webcam. She looks so majestic!!
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Post by: OV135 on 05/16/2013 04:33 PM
Say, will the Atlantis museum include a mock up of the Mir docking module Atlantis delivered? 

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Post by: Overflow on 05/16/2013 10:11 PM
Say, will the Atlantis museum include a mock up of the Mir docking module Atlantis delivered? 



I do remember reading something about Mir.. Can't remember what though.
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Post by: wkann on 05/17/2013 11:09 PM
Does anyone know what happend to orbiter access arm and white room from 39B? I'm pretty sure it's in Houston, but when they unveiled the design for the Atlantis exhibit, they showed a rendering that showed it would be included in the exhibit at KSC. I know the 39B Bennie cap is included in the exhibit.
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Post by: Overflow on 05/18/2013 12:45 AM
I know the exhibit will include a beanie cap, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have the white room, etc.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/18/2013 02:32 AM
Does anyone know what happened to orbiter access arm and white room from 39B? I'm pretty sure it's in Houston...

It is. The OAA and white room are displayed in Rocket Park outside the main entrance to Johnson Space Center. The early exhibit rendering was created and released six months before the OAA was moved to Houston.
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Post by: wkann on 05/18/2013 03:05 AM
Does anyone know what happened to orbiter access arm and white room from 39B? I'm pretty sure it's in Houston...

It is. The OAA and white room are displayed in Rocket Park outside the main entrance to Johnson Space Center. The early exhibit rendering was created and released six months before the OAA was moved to Houston.

Thanks Robert
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Post by: OV135 on 05/18/2013 10:07 PM
Will a replica OAA or the one still attached to 39A be added to the exhibit? IMO I think it would make a nice addition to the exhibit. 

The OAA and a orbiter cabin mock up in launch position attached to it.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/19/2013 02:17 AM
To my knowledge, there are no plans for an OAA to be part of the exhibit, real or replica.
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Post by: wkann on 05/19/2013 05:31 AM
Looks like the Atlantis Exhibit at the KSC Visitor Center has made the Yahoo list of Hottest Museums to see this summer. Can't wait to see it.  :)

http://travel.yahoo.com/ideas/hottest-new-museums-to-see-this-year-220745452.html
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Post by: Overflow on 05/22/2013 11:16 PM
Atlantis now has her Canadarm.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/23/2013 04:30 AM
Atlantis now has her Canadarm.

Where do you see the arm (http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/atlantis.aspx)? I think you may be confusing the arm with the OBSS, which has been there all along but was recently raised a bit off the starboard sill.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/23/2013 01:26 PM
Now work to install the Canadarm has begun... :)
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Post by: brettreds2k on 05/23/2013 01:55 PM
The webcam went down, I hope they didnt turn it off.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 05/23/2013 02:39 PM
The webcam is working fine here.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 05/23/2013 07:37 PM
Odd, the link I have saved and have been using as of earlier today no longer takes me to the webcam, now just takes me to the front page of the Space Center Visitor page. Found the link again on here and resaved, thanks!!
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Post by: Overflow on 05/24/2013 11:45 AM
My local newspaper covered a story on Atlantis yesterday. Pretty cool to see her getting media attention again.
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Post by: Overflow on 05/24/2013 11:46 AM
Atlantis now has her Canadarm.

Where do you see the arm (http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/atlantis.aspx)? I think you may be confusing the arm with the OBSS, which has been there all along but was recently raised a bit off the starboard sill.

That may be it. My apologies. The picture I saw looked like it, but it didn't show the entire payload bay.
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Post by: catdlr on 05/24/2013 10:14 PM
Space Age Gateway to New Atlantis Attraction Takes Shape

Published on May 24, 2013
The home of space shuttle Atlantis continues taking shape at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex. Crews placed the nose cone atop the second of a replica pair of solid rocket boosters. A life-size external tank model will be built between them to form a complete "stack" the same size as the ones that lifted space shuttles into orbit for 30 years. The stack, which will reach 184 feet when finished, will straddle a walkway into the Space Shuttle Atlantis attraction's main building, a new, 90,000-square-foot exhibit hall housing Atlantis itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_j6KCwWbmw
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Post by: brettreds2k on 05/28/2013 12:01 PM
Looks like her window covers have been removed
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Post by: wkann on 05/28/2013 04:19 PM
Looks like her window covers have been removed

Yes they were removed! Now just 30 days till it opens!!  :)
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Post by: Overflow on 05/28/2013 06:35 PM
About time they came off!

Webcam update for May 28th, 2013.

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Post by: Overflow on 05/29/2013 06:32 PM
Webcam update for May 29th, 2013.

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Post by: Sarah on 05/29/2013 07:06 PM
They need to make use of the robotic arm and put a security camera on the end of it. Then put up a sign that says "Atlantis is watching you!"  :D
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Post by: Rocket Science on 05/29/2013 07:53 PM
They need to make use of the robotic arm and put a security camera on the end of it. Then put up a sign that says "Atlantis is watching you!"  :D
I like it! :)
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Post by: Overflow on 05/31/2013 01:54 PM
I really hope they keep the webcams up even after Atlantis opens. It'll be cool to check on her like we can with Discovery.
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Post by: Overflow on 05/31/2013 06:38 PM
Webcam update for May 31st, 2013.
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Post by: roma847 on 06/01/2013 07:32 AM
Webcam update for May 31st, 2013.

Where I can find this Exterior Camera?  8)

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
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Post by: Overflow on 06/01/2013 02:52 PM
Webcam update for May 31st, 2013.

Where I can find this Exterior Camera?  8)

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)

I tried to answer your PM, but for some reason wasn't having any luck. So I'm not ignoring you. :)

First, go to Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex's Facebook. Near the right side of the page you'll see a tiny picture of Atlantis wrapped and it'll say Atlantis Live on it. Click that and it should take you to both cameras.
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Post by: roma847 on 06/01/2013 03:19 PM
Thanks for your nice help. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/377.gif)

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
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Post by: Overflow on 06/02/2013 05:37 PM
No problem!
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Post by: roma847 on 06/02/2013 09:56 PM
The countdown is on, and the time until June 29 is apparently running out, there is now day and night (3:40 AM) worked through ...

(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1413/020613e.jpg)
Source: Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/03/2013 05:00 PM
What is that huge black thing in the Cargo Bay by the Mock Airlock?
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Post by: Overflow on 06/03/2013 05:52 PM
It looks like we have some plants now.
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Post by: Overflow on 06/03/2013 05:53 PM
The countdown is on, and the time until June 29 is apparently running out, there is now day and night (3:40 AM) worked through ...

(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1413/020613e.jpg)
Source: Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)

I saw that last night. The exhibit looks nice when it's lit up.

What is that huge black thing in the Cargo Bay by the Mock Airlock?

Where?
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Post by: collectSPACE on 06/03/2013 06:04 PM
What is that huge black thing in the Cargo Bay by the Mock Airlock?

Presumably what you saw was one of the two window-washer like buckets that allows workers to lower themselves into the payload bay. The raise into the ceiling when not in use.
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/03/2013 06:20 PM
Gotcha, yeah they are gone now. Was just surprised to see that when I loaded the live cam, couldn't figure out what they were.
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Post by: Davejfb on 06/03/2013 06:25 PM
A very cool trailer for the upcoming grand opening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEB8xzV9jfo&feature=share
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Post by: Overflow on 06/03/2013 06:38 PM
That's awesome!
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Post by: roma847 on 06/04/2013 07:10 AM
It's a pity that on the exterior camera do not show the upper part of the ET, because apparently already panels were mounted. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/crying.gif)

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
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Post by: Overflow on 06/04/2013 02:11 PM
Well they're working pretty quickly since they only have 25 days left. I assume we'll start seeing the panels in a couple days.
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Post by: Overflow on 06/04/2013 09:45 PM
It looks like there's some computer monitors set up.
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Post by: Ares67 on 06/04/2013 11:15 PM
A very cool trailer for the upcoming grand opening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEB8xzV9jfo&feature=share

Goosebumps!!!  ;D
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Post by: roma847 on 06/05/2013 05:57 AM
And here is the next exciting trailer to enjoy ... (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif)

KSC VC Sizzle Final
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k57JAKabk_Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k57JAKabk_Y)

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
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Post by: Overflow on 06/05/2013 03:27 PM
Here's the only change.. but hey.. We'll take it!
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/05/2013 04:26 PM
She looks breath taking!! I think she will lover her new life at KSC!!
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Post by: Overflow on 06/05/2013 07:31 PM
All Earthcams are down. :(
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/05/2013 08:12 PM
The interior one is working
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Post by: Aobrien on 06/05/2013 11:24 PM
Light tropical storm heading through the state tomorrow. Hope it doesn't have any big affects on construction. Should be mostly rain
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Post by: Overflow on 06/06/2013 03:02 PM
Light tropical storm heading through the state tomorrow. Hope it doesn't have any big affects on construction. Should be mostly rain

I'm going through Tropical Storm Andrea right now. So far we've had a few tornados and flooding. Luckily, it will be weaker by the time it hits the other coast of Florida. Plus, the Cape won't be getting a direct hit.
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Post by: roma847 on 06/06/2013 09:16 PM
Hey Guys,

I keep my fingers crossed you. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

BTW, the gardeners were back at work and new panels for the ET were delivered. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/coolio.gif)

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7813/060613e.jpg)

I can't wait to see the finished ET. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
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Post by: roma847 on 06/07/2013 01:33 PM
Now it looks as the top of the ET is covered with panels and a fence will be installed. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/coolio.gif)

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
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Post by: Overflow on 06/07/2013 02:15 PM
Good eye Roma!

Do you plan on paying Alantis a visit when she opens?
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/07/2013 02:51 PM
I know I will drive down there this year, I will wait for a few months, let the huge crowds at least die down a tad before I go
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Post by: Overflow on 06/07/2013 02:57 PM
Of everything goes according to plan, I will be with Atlantis on July 12th.
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Post by: roma847 on 06/07/2013 04:15 PM
Hey Guys,

how I envy you. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)  For me, this is a long way from Germany ... (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/coolio.gif)  but maybe someday ... (http://scaleworld.forenworld.net/images/smilies/magic.gif)

But I hope you'll make a lot of good photos to share with us, that would be nice. (http://scaleworld.forenworld.net/images/smilies/flehan.gif)

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/07/2013 04:42 PM
Beautiful shot posted on Facebook just now, Really gives you an idea of how close you will be to her!! She looks amazing!! Also you can see the Hubble Replica also

Seeing now how truly close she is to the railing, I hope they do not allow food or drinks into this area of the display, that is a disaster waiting to happen!! You can just see kids dropping drinks over the ledge and hitting Atlantis, or food, etc or kids throwing things trying to make it into the Cargo Bay

Also a new video of her display:

http://usat.ly/16Q4TSA
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Post by: collectSPACE on 06/07/2013 07:20 PM
Space Shuttle Atlantis exhibit enters final countdown to launch
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-060713a.html

Space Shuttle Atlantis is "go" for launch.

The retired NASA orbiter and the new $100 million exhibit that bears its name is on schedule to open to the public on June 29 at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex in Florida.

"Everything is go," said Tim Macy, the director of project development and construction for Delaware North Parks & Resorts, which operates the complex for NASA. "We are looking forward to having a big turnout that Saturday."


Photo gallery: Atlantis exhibit enters final countdown to launch (http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-060713b.html)
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/07/2013 07:44 PM
Great pictures!!
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Post by: roma847 on 06/07/2013 09:29 PM
Thanks Brett for sharing this fantastic video, it's amazing!!!

And thanks Robert for the new photos particularly from outside, now finally the ET is to see with his panels, really fabulous!!!

http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-060713b.html#17

I can't wait to see it finished. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/coolio.gif)
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Post by: Overflow on 06/08/2013 02:08 AM
Here's some screenshots I took from the USA Today video.

What a great video. I can't wait to see her next month.
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Post by: Overflow on 06/08/2013 02:23 AM
And here are the webcam pictures of Atlantis for today.
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Post by: padrat on 06/08/2013 12:00 PM
I plan on taking plenty of photos when they have an employee viewing in a couple of weeks, You know me......

A little bit of trivia if it hasn't already been posted....when the mock stack is completed it will be taller than Cinderellas castle at the Magic Kingdom....

Stick that in your pipe Mouse! Lol!
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/08/2013 12:13 PM
Can't wait to see your pictures when you go
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Post by: Overflow on 06/08/2013 12:44 PM
A little bit of trivia if it hasn't already been posted....when the mock stack is completed it will be taller than Cinderellas castle at the Magic Kingdom....

Stick that in your pipe Mouse! Lol!

Wow.. I didn't know that..
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Post by: manboy on 06/08/2013 02:06 PM
A little bit of trivia if it hasn't already been posted....when the mock stack is completed it will be taller than Cinderellas castle at the Magic Kingdom....

Stick that in your pipe Mouse! Lol!

Wow.. I didn't know that..
Cinderella's castle is much smaller than you think it is.
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Post by: collectSPACE on 06/08/2013 04:01 PM
A little bit of trivia if it hasn't already been posted....when the mock stack is completed it will be taller than Cinderellas castle at the Magic Kingdom....

Cinderella Castle stands 189 feet tall; according to the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex, the mock-stack stands 184 feet tall.
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Post by: Ares67 on 06/08/2013 05:52 PM
"That is the most graceful, beautiful vehicle we've ever had to fly in space."

I like that.

And KSC obviously knows how to display that beauty. Very impressive!
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Post by: yorky10 on 06/08/2013 09:34 PM
Does anyone know if the 29th is going to be a ticketed event at KSCVC? ie. Just normal general admission?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 06/08/2013 10:17 PM
Does anyone know if the 29th is going to be a ticketed event at KSCVC? ie. Just normal general admission?

From a Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex press release:

The Visitor Complex will open at 9 a.m. and grand opening events will take place throughout the day.

Space Shuttle Atlantis grand opening festivities are included in regular Visitor Complex admission.


The opening ceremonies, per NASA TV's schedule, begin at 9:30 a.m.
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Post by: Overflow on 06/09/2013 12:17 PM
I guess I'm gonna have to set my alarm clock for 9AM in order to do screenshots.
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Post by: spacecane on 06/09/2013 05:59 PM
Since Atlantis is "in orbit" shouldn't the star tracker doors be open?
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Post by: manboy on 06/10/2013 08:39 AM
Justin Ray of SpaceflightNow got some amazing pictures (I hope it's okay to post this).
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Post by: roma847 on 06/10/2013 09:40 AM
And here is a nice view from outside. As you can see now the ET concrete forms is assumed.

In the foreground is a part of the intertank section with the stringers, and in the background you can see the structure of the nose cone-tip,

(http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/images/thumbnails/2013-2582-t.jpg)
Source: NASA/Jim Grossmann

and here all from a different impressive perspective. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/coolio.gif)

(http://www.collectspace.com/images/news-060713a/018.jpg)
Source: www.collectspace.com

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/10/2013 12:04 PM
Since Atlantis is "in orbit" shouldn't the star tracker doors be open?

I am pretty sure they removed the Star Tracker so Id think thats why they chose to leave it closed.
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Post by: Orbiter on 06/10/2013 01:07 PM
I plan on taking plenty of photos when they have an employee viewing in a couple of weeks, You know me......

A little bit of trivia if it hasn't already been posted....when the mock stack is completed it will be taller than Cinderellas castle at the Magic Kingdom....

Stick that in your pipe Mouse! Lol!

The Saturn V at Huntsville standing straight up beats both of them.  :)
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Post by: Overflow on 06/10/2013 06:06 PM
Does anyone know what they're doing with the area where Atlantis' wing gets close to the ground?
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Post by: Overflow on 06/10/2013 06:10 PM
More pictures from NASA..
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Post by: Overflow on 06/11/2013 12:11 AM
You beat me to it, roma!  ;D

I like how they keep the interior lights on as well.
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Post by: spacecane on 06/11/2013 01:14 PM
Since Atlantis is "in orbit" shouldn't the star tracker doors be open?

I am pretty sure they removed the Star Tracker so Id think thats why they chose to leave it closed.

I'm surprised they didn't do a mock up.  You'd think it would be a lot easier to mock up than SSMEs or the HST.
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Post by: Overflow on 06/11/2013 01:54 PM
It looks like some more displays are being added as well..
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Post by: roma847 on 06/12/2013 07:44 PM
Here are some progress photos from today. The ET Attachment Ring is mounted on the right SRB,

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8558/120613e1.jpg)
Source: KSC Visitor Complex
 
on the Aft Skirts it is also progressing, and in the background is one half of the ET bottom ready. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/coolio.gif)

(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/2218/120613e2.jpg)
Source: KSC Visitor Complex

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7040/120613e3.jpg)
Source: KSC Visitor Complex

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
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Post by: Overflow on 06/12/2013 10:37 PM
It looks like the both ends of the SRBs are complete. We can also see the front of the ET now.
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Post by: Overflow on 06/12/2013 10:40 PM
Also, Expedition Florida 500 filmed a video of Atlantis..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOdltq5iy6o
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/13/2013 01:56 PM
The inside webcam link is now the full page for the exhibit and the link for the webcam on the page doesnt work yet, that sucks!! :(
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Post by: Overflow on 06/13/2013 04:20 PM
The inside webcam link is now the full page for the exhibit and the link for the webcam on the page doesnt work yet, that sucks!! :(

Try this: https://www.facebook.com/KennedySpaceCenterVisitorComplex/app_190322544333196

 :)
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Post by: Overflow on 06/13/2013 04:26 PM
Pretty cool Atlantis banner.

"A National Treasure Is Home"
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/13/2013 05:46 PM
The inside webcam link is now the full page for the exhibit and the link for the webcam on the page doesnt work yet, that sucks!! :(

Try this: https://www.facebook.com/KennedySpaceCenterVisitorComplex/app_190322544333196

 :)

Just stays as a white screen, I clicked the live webcam link at the top but still nothing :(
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Post by: Overflow on 06/13/2013 06:20 PM
It use to do that to me all the time. And still does sometimes..
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/13/2013 06:30 PM
The actual website is fixed and the links now work!!
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Post by: Overflow on 06/14/2013 04:28 PM
Checking out the links now.. Some cool stuff..
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Post by: roma847 on 06/14/2013 07:13 PM
Here are two pictures from yesterday, slowly the end is approaching. In the foreground is a part of the substructure for the ET bottom. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/coolio.gif)

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4599/5zhv.jpg)
Source: KSC Visitor Complex

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/2126/1ba3.jpg)
Source: KSC Visitor Complex

And here from today (11:15 AM), first part of the substructure for the ET bottom will be mounted,

(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/1773/vldd.jpg)
Source: KSC Visitor Complex

and also more segments of the SRB Aft Skirts (02:40 PM). (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/coolio.gif)

(http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/2842/wb.jpg)
Source: KSC Visitor Complex

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
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Post by: MichaelJohnston on 06/15/2013 07:26 PM
Is the arm in its final orientation or do they still plan to put an MMU at the end and hoist it up?
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Post by: brettreds2k on 06/15/2013 09:17 PM
I do wish they would have made a full wall a giant video of earth like in the early drawings like the one above. The Muriel size behind Atlantis is okay but doesn't give the effect it needs.
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Post by: roma847 on 06/16/2013 06:47 AM
Here are some new photos,

(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2289/feg8.jpg)
Source: KSC Visitor Complex

now they have finished the Aft skirts and the sub-construction of the ET bottom and all looks great. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/70.gif)

(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/600/ho90.jpg)
Source: KSC Visitor Complex

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2408/ar7b.jpg)
Source: KSC Visitor Complex

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
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Post by: roma847 on 06/16/2013 09:16 PM
Look at the next pics, Source: KSC Visitor Complex. They are working day and night. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/coolio.gif)

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5396/67s8.jpg) 03:55 AM

(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5118/8vsk.jpg) 07:10 AM

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5766/akl1.jpg) 09:40 AM

(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/118/qqr.jpg) 10:55 AM

(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/3135/3dz2.jpg) 11:10 AM

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8548/wbwa.jpg) 12:40 PM

Now the ET is almost completely built, only the last panel must be installed on the bottom. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/70.gif)

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 06/17/2013 01:45 AM
I wonder if the outline of Atlantis is still planned?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: MichaelJohnston on 06/17/2013 05:17 AM
I wonder if the outline of Atlantis is still planned?

I was wondering the same thing. I can imagine that they might decide against it because it might not provide enough clearance for people to walk under it.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: roma847 on 06/17/2013 10:44 AM
Let's just surprise us, Saturday in a week we will see it ... (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/banana.gif)

And here are some pics from today, all photos are again from the same Source: KSC Visitor Complex:

The guys are back at work and installing the last panel on the bottom, and cleaned up they already have! (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif)

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5430/3t5n.jpg) 04:25 AM

And now it's finally done, the bottom is closed. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/70.gif)

(http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/5558/owbu.jpg) 05:10 AM

Now the guys have a small break deserves.  (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/377.gif)

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4624/ggc4.jpg) 06:40 AM

So long!

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 06/17/2013 11:51 AM
Just under 2 weeks until opening day!!
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 06/17/2013 02:20 PM
I wonder if the outline of Atlantis is still planned?

I was wondering the same thing. I can imagine that they might decide against it because it might not provide enough clearance for people to walk under it.

I hope they still add it. It'll be cool to see how the orbiter was on the stack up close.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: roma847 on 06/17/2013 06:15 PM
And here the last shots from today, Source: KSC Visitor Complex:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img850/4307/4fi8.jpg) 07:40 AM

The front light must still be connected. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/70.gif)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img14/5500/4wqp.jpg) 09:10 AM

(http://imageshack.us/a/img22/7711/2bxi.jpg) 10:25 AM

(http://imageshack.us/a/img40/731/hlsg.jpg) 11:40 AM

And now all is well done.

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4335/kauy.jpg) 11:55 AM

And this is the view from inside. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/coolio.gif)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img829/3496/6ruv.jpg) 12:56 PM

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 06/17/2013 07:59 PM
So with 2 weeks until opening, I wonder what else they have left to prep, inside they look pretty much done, and the outside looks perfect to!!
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 06/17/2013 08:21 PM
I'm assuming that the next two weeks will involve a lot of dusting and cleaning.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 06/17/2013 08:30 PM
It looks like a father is taking his son to go see Atlantis..
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 06/17/2013 08:35 PM
Looks like they're trying different lighting configurations..
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: DMeader on 06/17/2013 11:29 PM
Too bad they didn't mock up some hold down posts there...
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 01:42 AM
Guess where I went today.........

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 01:49 AM
The Visitor Complex had a family viewing today. And since I'm married to an employee, well......

There are still a few things to finish on the inside, like some exhibits that weren't set up yet or working, so I'll have to go back at some point to see what I missed.

So first, the SRB's and ET. I was impressed with the detail that went into the SRB's. Even had the HPU servicing ports on them and labeled...



Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 01:56 AM
The way that they bring you into the exhibit area was a pretty neat introduction. I won't spoil it, but suffice to say that the way Atlantis is revealed to you definitely gave me goosebumps. I dare say almost like waiting for and finally seeing an old friend at the airport.....

Now, it's time to pour on the inticement for Chris to book his trip stateside...

The Lady of Honor.....

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 02:03 AM
Very good access to see the mid-body/payload bay...

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 02:12 AM
As a guarantee that they didn't polish her up or do any beautifying repairs I was still able to see the repair that was done where I...um, I mean, some aerospace technician damaged the radiator due to a socket mishap...... ::)

(That would be the large square taped area...)

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 02:15 AM
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 02:21 AM
The business end. You can see tiles that were damaged most likely at launch....

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 02:27 AM
Some of the exhibits that were in place. Plus a full size mockup of Hubble...

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 02:30 AM
More Atlantis. Also showing some beaver tail damage...

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 02:37 AM
Down on the ground floor. Those of you that were worried about people being able to touch the wingtip, they did a decent job up keeping people back, but in a tasteful way.....

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 02:40 AM
In case anyone was wondering where the Pad B GOX Vent Arm, aka.Beanie Cap, ended up.....

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 02:44 AM
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 02:47 AM
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 02:49 AM
There's a neat looking ISS exhibit for the kids to play in, when it's finished.
Plus there's also a time capsule......

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 02:53 AM
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 02:55 AM
And for all of you patch junkies, the shop at the exit doesn't disappoint....

Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: padrat on 06/18/2013 03:06 AM
I'll definitely have to go back soon after it opens to see the rest. I was very impressed. I kinda thought it seemed too dark at times but there may be more lighting going in, not sure. But the theme IS supposed to be simulating on-orbit so it probably won't get much brighter. All in all it was very surreal knowing that I worked on her and saw her on the pad less than 2 years ago, knowing that i helped with annual validations on that vent arm a few years before that. It still is somewhat depressing seeing her there. but it definately beats the alternative, like Buran's fate, or rotting in a boneyard somewhere. Like I told someone else there, it more than does her justice after the injustice that she, and the rest of the program, suffered due to the country's financial woes and changing political winds. But that is a subject for a different thread....

I wholeheartedly recommend going. Pay her a visit. I think she'd appreciate it.....
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Alpha Control on 06/18/2013 03:11 AM
Great visual tour, Padrat. Thanks for sharing. I definitely plan to get down there this summer to see her in this fabulous new exhibit hall. What a wonderful home they've created for Atlantis!

Hope that ISS exhibit is big enough for adults to craw in, and not just kids!  :)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: catdlr on 06/18/2013 04:23 AM
Space Shuttle Atlantis, Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex, June 17, 2013

Published on Jun 17, 2013
On June 17, 2013, invited guests were allowed to tour the new Space Shuttle Atlantis exhibit at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex. The exhibit will have its formal opening on June 29, 2013.

Visit our web site at www.spaceksc.com. We're on Twitter at @spacekscblog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocrRP1n9nZI
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: roma847 on 06/18/2013 07:27 AM
Thank you padrat for sharing this magnificent photo show, the impression is phenomenally, simply stunning images. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/377.gif) (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/377.gif) (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/377.gif)

I can imagine that you got goose bumps when you have reminded on your many years of hard work on the pad, all the many experiences, impressions, joy and also disappointment that this unique program unfortunately but had to stop. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/crying.gif)

Thank you Tony for this smashing video too, (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/377.gif) maybe I can admire also sometime this exhibition, for the time being, it is still a dream, but a very beautiful ... (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/coolio.gif)

Thank you again! (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/70.gif)

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 06/18/2013 12:20 PM
I'll definitely have to go back soon after it opens to see the rest. I was very impressed. I kinda thought it seemed too dark at times but there may be more lighting going in, not sure. But the theme IS supposed to be simulating on-orbit so it probably won't get much brighter. All in all it was very surreal knowing that I worked on her and saw her on the pad less than 2 years ago, knowing that i helped with annual validations on that vent arm a few years before that. It still is somewhat depressing seeing her there. but it definately beats the alternative, like Buran's fate, or rotting in a boneyard somewhere. Like I told someone else there, it more than does her justice after the injustice that she, and the rest of the program, suffered due to the country's financial woes and changing political winds. But that is a subject for a different thread....

I wholeheartedly recommend going. Pay her a visit. I think she'd appreciate it.....

Thank you so very much for the amazing pictures and the work you did on her for all those years. I am glad to see she is atleast being retired with dignity and grace and she is the star of the show. I am planning to go in September so I cant wait to see her. I have seen Discovery on Display, and that for me was very touching for me due to the love I have had for the program since I was a child and watched the first launch of the program, so to see Discovery in person was a dream come true and now to get this close to Atlantis will be amazing!!
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 06/18/2013 12:32 PM
Wow.. I'm seriously awestruck at this exhibit. I can't wait for July 12th.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 06/18/2013 12:39 PM
Looks like there's more work being done outside..
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/18/2013 12:42 PM
Wow. Amazing photos PR! Thanks!
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: OV135 on 06/18/2013 01:23 PM
Awesome new photos of Atlantis. :)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Space Pete on 06/18/2013 04:53 PM
There's a neat looking ISS exhibit for the kids to play in, when it's finished.

Can adults play in it too...? ;)

Whenever I eventually visit, they'll probably have to call security at closing time to forcibly remove me from there. :D
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: yorky10 on 06/18/2013 07:39 PM
Great pics :) I'm flying over next week for the opening but after seeing these I'm not sure I will be able to sleep :) Can't wait.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: PahTo on 06/18/2013 07:53 PM

Thanks for the pre-tour padrat!  Nice exhibit to be sure (and good words by you).
We'll be sure to stop by for a full day when in town for the EFT-1 launch.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: MichaelJohnston on 06/18/2013 11:12 PM
Looks like something interesting is happening to the right. There's a black line on the concrete and what looks to be some stabilizers on the ground. The previous cherry pickers didn't use that AFAIK.

Anyone have an idea?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: roma847 on 06/19/2013 10:44 AM
After the family viewing it has gone again to work. (http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/coolio.gif) There are still some parts to install like the rear support of the orbiter and the supply lines for electricity, liquids, and gases between the ET and the rest of the shuttle stack, as well as details on the SRBs.

(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/8017/3opm.jpg) 04:25 AM

(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9672/m3vt.jpg) 10:25 AM

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3751/2c8j.jpg) 03:25 PM

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 06/19/2013 12:18 PM
They did a much better job on the RSME's on Atlantis than they did on Discovery. The inside of them on Discovery are like a gray color and Atlantis actually looks realistic I think.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 06/19/2013 05:33 PM
Looks like something interesting is happening to the right. There's a black line on the concrete and what looks to be some stabilizers on the ground. The previous cherry pickers didn't use that AFAIK.

Anyone have an idea?

You do have a point. It does look like something's going on.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 06/20/2013 06:31 PM
Looks like a quiet day.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 06/20/2013 07:00 PM
Looks like the bottom shuttle attach points are mounted to the tank now but the upper attach point I dont see yet?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 06/21/2013 07:33 PM
Here are a few pictures the Visitor Center posted, She looks amazing!!

(Lots of awesome photos from Ben Cooper here: http://www.launchphotography.com/Atlantis_museum.html - one below is a sample preview of a large set).
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Blackstar on 06/22/2013 12:42 PM
Most of my photos are nearly identical to the ones posted earlier. Here are a few others.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: roma847 on 06/22/2013 01:11 PM
Thank you for sharing your nice photos, were also lucky enough to participate in the family viewing. (http://www.raumfahrer.net/forum/smf/Smileys/yabb/cool.gif)

I can contribute only the pics of the webcam from the entrance of the last few days. Source: KSC Visitor Complex

The small things want to be still done, so a night shift must be inserted again.

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/82/vg82.jpg) 20.06.13, 02:25 AM

(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1703/amlj.jpg) 21.06.13, 08:55 AM

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7465/e8oo.jpg) 21.06.13, 10:25 AM

Tonight was initially calm before the entrance,

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1188/hj71.jpg) 22.06.13, 02:10 AM

but go further with last works, finally the gates will be opened today in a week really for all visitors ...(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/70.gif)

(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2163/wvhw.jpg) 22.06.13, 04:40 AM

(http://scaleworld.forenworld.net/images/smilies/hallo.gif)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Blackstar on 06/22/2013 03:03 PM
Thank you for sharing your nice photos, were also lucky enough to participate in the family viewing.

Technically I wasn't there for that. We actually had a rather high-level host who took us there.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: roma847 on 06/22/2013 04:29 PM
It looks as if the work for today were finished.

(http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/272/lmpf.jpg)
Source: KSC Visitor Complex

(http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/public/style_emoticons/default/hi2.gif)
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 06/23/2013 07:09 AM
"Meet A Legend: Encounters starting June 29th."

-KSCVC
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 06/25/2013 02:52 PM
Space Shuttle Atlantis exhibit set to launch
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-062513a.html

There is a moment in the new Space Shuttle Atlantis exhibit at NASA's Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex when a fantasy becomes reality and the experience is nothing short of magical.

But unlike the theme parks in nearby Orlando, Florida, the attraction here is not the make believe, but the recognition that what you are looking at is in fact real.

"Space Shuttle Atlantis," which debuts on Saturday (June 29), showcases the retired winged spacecraft as part of a $100 million exhibit that has been more than a year in the making. It succeeds in bringing the public nose-to-nose — and nose-to-wing and nose-to-tail — with Atlantis in a way that is unique to every other museum display of a shuttle orbiter.


Photo preview: http://www.collectspace.com/atlantis_preview
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 06/25/2013 03:10 PM
Do they not plan to put the attach point at the top of the ET where Atlantis would have been attached? They put so much detail into the tank I cant see how they would leave that out?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 06/25/2013 04:24 PM
They were still adding details the external tank when I was there on Thursday and Friday.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: brettreds2k on 06/25/2013 05:44 PM
The Live Webcam is not so live anymore :( Last update was last Thursday.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: collectSPACE on 06/26/2013 12:10 AM
Do they not plan to put the attach point at the top of the ET where Atlantis would have been attached?

The upper attach point has been added, and is visible in this NASA photo (http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=65905).
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Sarah on 06/26/2013 01:07 AM
After attending the rollover in November I didn't think I'd be in any hurry to return to KSC to see this display. It's just too awesome to wait. My daughter has her bag packed and by the door already.  :D
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 06/26/2013 11:27 AM
After attending the rollover in November I didn't think I'd be in any hurry to return to KSC to see this display. It's just too awesome to wait. My daughter has her bag packed and by the door already.  :D

Are you going to the Grand Opening?
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Overflow on 06/26/2013 11:31 AM
The Live Webcam is not so live anymore :( Last update was last Thursday.

What a bummer. I was really hoping that they'd keep it active.
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Rocket Science on 06/26/2013 01:41 PM
After attending the rollover in November I didn't think I'd be in any hurry to return to KSC to see this display. It's just too awesome to wait. My daughter has her bag packed and by the door already.  :D
Tell her "the range is green, you are go for launch!" :D
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: Sarah on 06/26/2013 05:58 PM
After attending the rollover in November I didn't think I'd be in any hurry to return to KSC to see this display. It's just too awesome to wait. My daughter has her bag packed and by the door already.  :D

Are you going to the Grand Opening?

That is the plan. A short weekend trip. I wonder if all the exhibits will be finished. If not I guess I'll just have to go back next year.  :D
Title: Re: Atlantis: Deservicing and Retirement Updates
Post by: yorky10 on 06/26/2013 10:56 PM
I've been in today. Still looks to be a few bits to finish. A few multimedia features still being finished off by the tech guys and a few graphics panels missing from some displays. Timing messed up on the entrance feature too. I'm sure they will get all this sorted for the opening. Very very impressed with what I saw. Highly recommended :)