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Title: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Salo on 06/02/2011 03:00 pm
http://www.hindu.com/2011/06/02/stories/2011060267091500.htm (http://www.hindu.com/2011/06/02/stories/2011060267091500.htm)

GSAT-12 to be launched in July second week
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 4-10, 2011
Post by: Salo on 06/02/2011 03:13 pm
http://www.ciol.com/News/News/News-Reports/India-to-launch-next-comm-satellite-in-July/150701/0/ (http://www.ciol.com/News/News/News-Reports/India-to-launch-next-comm-satellite-in-July/150701/0/)
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 2011
Post by: input~2 on 06/03/2011 12:39 pm
The 1,400kg S/C will be first placed in a 284 x 21,000 km orbit
(from the previous reference)
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 2011
Post by: m.prasad on 06/07/2011 05:47 am
GSAT-12 reached Sriharikota (Reported by local news channel). Hope ISRO sticks to the schedule...

~Prasad
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 2011
Post by: input~2 on 06/18/2011 11:57 am
Launch now announced for July 2
http://zeenews.india.com/news/sci-tech/isro-to-flight-test-homegrown-rocket-gslv-d5_713543.html

Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 2011
Post by: Salo on 06/22/2011 04:24 am
The second week of July:
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/editorial/article2123861.ece
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 2011
Post by: input~2 on 06/29/2011 11:21 am
From NOTAMs, launch could occur from July 6 to August 5 in the 1015-1315UTC time slot
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 2011
Post by: input~2 on 06/30/2011 08:27 am
Launch is now set for July 15 between 16:48-17:08 Local time (ie 1218-1238 UTC)
(source: ISRO (http://www.isro.org/pressrelease/scripts/pressreleasein.aspx?Jun30_2011))

edit : 1118-1138 UTC, India time= GMT+5h30min!
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 2011
Post by: Satori on 07/06/2011 02:16 pm
Which launch pad is going to be used?
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 2011
Post by: Salo on 07/06/2011 09:00 pm
The Second Launch Pad. (http://www.isro.org/pressrelease/scripts/pressreleasein.aspx?Jun30_2011)
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 2011
Post by: Salo on 07/09/2011 08:35 pm
http://www.dailyindia.com/show/450054.php
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 2011
Post by: Salo on 07/13/2011 10:43 am
Countdown commenced for PSLV-C17/GSAT-12 Mission:
http://www.isro.org/pressrelease/scripts/pressreleasein.aspx?Jul13_2011

Brochure:
http://www.isro.org/pslv-c17/pdf/pslv-c17-brochure.pdf

Photos:
http://www.isro.org/pslv-c17/Imagegallery/launchvehicle.aspx
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 2011
Post by: Salo on 07/14/2011 02:28 pm
PSLV to put GSAT-12 in orbit on Friday:
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2224836.ece
http://www.inewsone.com/2011/07/14/indian-rocket-set-for-launch-friday/63076
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 2011
Post by: input~2 on 07/14/2011 05:55 pm
Thanks for the info Salo :) !

Doordarshan News should have live coverage:
http://webcast.gov.in/live/
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 2011
Post by: tehwkd on 07/14/2011 07:14 pm
just like all other ISRO launches, it will be shown on most Indian news channels, but instead of full coverage, they will switch to live feed few min before the launch. Few links:
http://live.indiatimes.com/
http://ibnlive.in.com/livetv/
http://www.ndtv.com/video/live-player/channel/ndtv24x7
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 05:24 am
Going to require a lot of you to keep a look out for the best TV station and see what we can do about collecting as many screenshots from those stations as we can! :)

Moved for live coverage
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: tehwkd on 07/15/2011 10:59 am
GREEN for launch at T-20min
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Salo on 07/15/2011 11:04 am
Webcast begin:
http://webcast.gov.in/live/
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:08 am
GREEN for launch at T-20min


Excellent screenshots. If you could post a couple at a time, that would be a superb help! :)
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Stardust9906 on 07/15/2011 11:11 am
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: tehwkd on 07/15/2011 11:14 am
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Stardust9906 on 07/15/2011 11:14 am
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:15 am
T-3 minutes
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:17 am
T-120 seconds.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Stardust9906 on 07/15/2011 11:18 am
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:18 am
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: tehwkd on 07/15/2011 11:19 am
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:20 am
LAUNCH!
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:21 am
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:22 am
Perfomance nominal at +60 seconds.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:22 am
Ground lit strap on boosters sep.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Stardust9906 on 07/15/2011 11:23 am
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:23 am
Airlit strap ons seps
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:23 am
Staging. 1-2 Sep. Second stage ignition.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:24 am
Nominal performance on the second stage.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:26 am
Fairing ("Heatshield") Sep.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:27 am
Staging. 2-3 Sep. Third stage ignition.

Third stage performance nominal.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:31 am
T+450 seconds, as much as the webcast is lagging like crazy.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:33 am
Staging. 3-4 Sep. Fourth stage coasting before ignition.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:34 am
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:36 am
Fourth stage ignition.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:37 am
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: input~2 on 07/15/2011 11:40 am
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:40 am
300 seconds to go on the fourth stage.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:45 am
Orbital velocity.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: input~2 on 07/15/2011 11:48 am
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:49 am
Fourth stage shutdown on target.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: input~2 on 07/15/2011 11:49 am
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:51 am
S/C Sep! Congrats to ISRO!
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Satori on 07/15/2011 11:51 am
Satellite separation. Happy faces there... Congratulations to India!
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: input~2 on 07/15/2011 11:51 am
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:54 am
Happy ISRO.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 11:58 am
Doing a General Bolden with huge praise for the President :)

"When this country needs transponders, we can launch transponders".
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Chris Bergin on 07/15/2011 12:02 pm
Launch Article - by William Graham:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/07/india-launches-gsat-12-via-pslv/
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: input~2 on 07/15/2011 12:02 pm
According to mission director, the orbit achieved is 282 x 21000 km
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: tehwkd on 07/15/2011 12:13 pm
Videos:
http://youtu.be/Ci4hi75B59o
http://youtu.be/WmSvWrNjmDE
http://youtu.be/kTpwJikjrks
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: input~2 on 07/15/2011 12:28 pm
Prayer for successful launch by ISRO chairman prior to launch
http://youtu.be/JgXm3LmGu4I
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Salo on 07/15/2011 01:24 pm
http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/article2230383.ece
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: input~2 on 07/15/2011 05:04 pm
USSTRATCOM has observed two objects:
Object A in 278 x 21348 km inclined 17.82°
Object B in 275 x 20959 km inclined 17.95°

(My guess would be Object B as GSAT-12, Object A as 4th stage..tbc)
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Salo on 07/15/2011 05:34 pm
http://www.isro.org/pslv-c17/Imagegallery/launchvehicle.aspx
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: seshagirib on 07/16/2011 07:14 am
Why is there a "long" coasting phase between stage-3 Sep. and stage-4 ignition? Don't see any coasting phase for the other stages.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: s^3 on 07/16/2011 03:13 pm

 ^^^

There is a small coast between first and second stage ( PS1 seperation and PS2 ignition  ..  see  flight plan http://educationalsalvi.blogspot.com/2011/07/pslv-c17-launch-flight-sequence.html (http://educationalsalvi.blogspot.com/2011/07/pslv-c17-launch-flight-sequence.html)

The long coast is because the 3rd shut stage and the 4th stage have to be physically away from each other. Both are moving at a 7.7kms/sec so physically achieving a separation takes time.







Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: s^3 on 07/16/2011 03:21 pm
Chris, I was really impressed with the interest and pains that you have taken in watching/posting live transmission snapshots in realtime.

Hats off to your enthusiasm.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: jcm on 07/17/2011 03:49 am

 ^^^

There is a small coast between first and second stage ( PS1 seperation and PS2 ignition  ..  see  flight plan http://educationalsalvi.blogspot.com/2011/07/pslv-c17-launch-flight-sequence.html (http://educationalsalvi.blogspot.com/2011/07/pslv-c17-launch-flight-sequence.html)

The long coast is because the 3rd shut stage and the 4th stage have to be physically away from each other. Both are moving at a 7.7kms/sec so physically achieving a separation takes time.





Perhaps, but it's also quite common for there to be a coast before final stage. The profile of many launch vehicles is: bang-bang-bang lower stages, punch out of the atmosphere; then, longish coast to apogee of the Keplerian suborbital ellipse; then, impulse at apogee from final stage to add enough velocity to raise perigee out of the atmosphere. In the usual PSLV scenario of circular polar orbit, the coast lets it reach the desired circular altitude of 800 km or so.
In this case the coast was fairly short, and the long stage 4 burn converts the previous apogee of 250 km or so into the new perigee, and the previous negative perigee into a large (21350 km) apogee.
Title: Re: LIVE: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: seshagirib on 07/17/2011 05:58 am

 ^^^

There is a small coast between first and second stage ( PS1 seperation and PS2 ignition  ..  see  flight plan http://educationalsalvi.blogspot.com/2011/07/pslv-c17-launch-flight-sequence.html (http://educationalsalvi.blogspot.com/2011/07/pslv-c17-launch-flight-sequence.html)

The long coast is because the 3rd shut stage and the 4th stage have to be physically away from each other. Both are moving at a 7.7kms/sec so physically achieving a separation takes time.





Perhaps, but it's also quite common for there to be a coast before final stage. The profile of many launch vehicles is: bang-bang-bang lower stages, punch out of the atmosphere; then, longish coast to apogee of the Keplerian suborbital ellipse; then, impulse at apogee from final stage to add enough velocity to raise perigee out of the atmosphere. In the usual PSLV scenario of circular polar orbit, the coast lets it reach the desired circular altitude of 800 km or so.
In this case the coast was fairly short, and the long stage 4 burn converts the previous apogee of 250 km or so into the new perigee, and the previous negative perigee into a large (21350 km) apogee.

I revisited the launch video: http://youtu.be/kTpwJikjrks

The (ISRO expert?) commentary seems to indicate ( from  11:58 onwards ) that the long phase for the fourth stage is to decrease the orbital inclination and put the s/c in the equatorial plane orbit.
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: s^3 on 07/17/2011 10:24 am
^^^
The commentary by expert says "  ... the longish coast is to ensure an orbit of 284kmsX21000 kms and s/c with 4th sage  has travel longer distance so that the 4th stage carries the s/c so that the perigee lies on equator. "
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Shams on 07/18/2011 10:37 am
Indian communication satellite raised to near its orbit

The Indian communication satellite GSAT-12 is now very near to its ultimate geo-stationary orbit at 36,000-km apogee, or farthest point from Earth, space agency ISRO said Monday.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/et-cetera/Indian-communication-satellite-raised-to-near-its-orbit/articleshow/9269306.cms

Shams
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: s^3 on 07/19/2011 05:38 am
 ^^^

Surprised!

Celestrak is updating the TLEs everyday but it is more or less the same orbit from 16th July.
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: Shams on 07/20/2011 07:48 am
GSAT-12 reaches its home in a circular geo-synchronous orbit

Edited by moderator: (copy of text from this link suppressed)

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2260309.ece (http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2260309.ece)
(no direct newspaper article copy, please!)
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: input~2 on 07/20/2011 04:11 pm
Stratcom is following closely Object 37746 (11034A), the PSLV 4th stage, releasing updated orbital data nearly everyday; on the other hand the orbital data for GSAT-12 (37747/11034B) have not been updated since July 16, before the maneuvers :(
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: seshagirib on 07/21/2011 08:08 am
Maybe Stratcom  gives higher priority to uncontrolled debris and objects which may reenter atmosphere/impact earth in near future.
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: s^3 on 07/21/2011 04:24 pm
^^^

Reason for non updation at Celestrak :


TSKelso (celestrak ) tweet of 19th  says

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Six launches & over a dozen new objects since July 8 & none of them yet identified by Space Track.
19 Jul
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Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: input~2 on 07/21/2011 07:30 pm
According to an ISRO press release (http://www.isro.org/pressrelease/scripts/pressreleasein.aspx?Jul21_2011) published to-day July 21, GSAT-12 is now in 35684 x 35715 km inclined 0.17°.
Quote
GSAT-12 is now located at 63 degree East longitude. The Satellite would  be moved to reach its designated longitude of 83 degree East within the  next 16 days (at the rate of one degree per day).
Let's see if Stratcom catches up with new data for Object 37747/11034B ;)
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: input~2 on 07/26/2011 03:05 pm
Well, Stratcom has finally published to-day new data for object 37747/11034B (GSAT-12) :) (last data was dated July 16..):

GSAT-12 was observed in 35,686 x 35,717 km inclined 0.17° yesterday July 25 at 1738UTC  passing 73.2°E and drifting East with a drift rate of 1.1°/day
(I would then have expected it to be at 68° on July 21 not 63° ??? )
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: input~2 on 07/26/2011 07:47 pm
The Catalog has now been updated:
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37746      PSLV R/B      2011-034A   
37747     GSAT 12     2011-034B
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: input~2 on 07/27/2011 04:42 pm
Now A and B have been switched
Quote
37746      GSAT 12      2011-034A   
37747     PSLV R/B     2011-034B
Title: Re: PSLV C17 - GSAT-12 - July 15, 2011
Post by: seshagirib on 08/04/2011 08:26 am
http://isro.org/pressrelease/scripts/pressreleasein.aspx?Jul21_2011

"
GSAT-12 Communication Satellite placed in Geosynchronous Orbit

The GSAT-12 Communication Satellite, launched onboard Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV-C17), has been successfully placed in Geosynchronous Orbit with a perigee of 35,684 km, apogee of 35,715 km and an orbital inclination of 0.17 degree with respect to the equatorial plane.

It may be recalled that on July 15, 2011, PSLV-C17 had injected GSAT-12 into an elliptical transfer orbit of 281 km perigee and 21,027 km apogee, and orbital inclination of 17.9 degree. The critical manoeuvres to raise GSAT-12 Satellite into Geosynchronous Orbit were performed by firing the 440 Newton Liquid Apogee Motor of GSAT-12 Satellite for about 80 minutes in five spells during July 16-20, 2011.
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"

Why was it necessary to fire the LAM so many times(5 times), would 1 or 2 long firings over heat the LAM? Or is there some other reason for so many firings?

Is it not risky to restart the LAM so many times? ( just in case the LAM fails to restart)