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International Space Flight (ESA, Russia, China and others) => Suborbital Missions => Topic started by: QuantumG on 05/28/2011 06:19 am
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It's that time of year again.
http://copenhagensuborbitals.com/campaignjune2011.php (http://copenhagensuborbitals.com/campaignjune2011.php)
Scroll down for the map which provides tracking of the launch platform. They have been at sea for a few hours now.
For anyone who missed the fun last year, here's what you're looking at:
http://copenhagensuborbitals.com/heat1x.php (http://copenhagensuborbitals.com/heat1x.php)
http://copenhagensuborbitals.com/tychobrahe.php (http://copenhagensuborbitals.com/tychobrahe.php)
With any luck a crash test dummy will be going for a fun flight!
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Currently docked at Dragør waiting for calm seas.
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That's such a crazy idea. I'm cheering for them!
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It is crazy, isn't it? Not for the claustrophobic, either. And I don't fancy taking the launch G's in an upright position.
But it's good that there are people like that in the world. It stops life from getting too mundane.
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Copenhagen Suborbitals is at sea again. http://aprs.fi/?call=a%2F2SPACE-7
22:58 UTC They've crossed into Swedish waters.
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02:45 UTC Currently waiting on the Höllviken side of the Falsterbo canal. It's 4:45 am local time, so hopefully they're not waiting for someone to wake up and let them in.
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08:05 UTC They've entered the canal.
08:25 UTC Out the other side.
22:45 UTC Just 2km off the coast of Bornholm.
01:19 UTC Rounding the south of Bornholm.
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03:28 UTC Rendezvous with the rescue ship Leopold Rosenfeldt which supplied 60 liters of fuel. (they were running dangerously low).
05:08 UTC Arrived at Neksø port.
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Either Google has gotten faster with their streetview trucks or they are moored in the same spot as last year. :)
Compare to the May 25 dry run.. and as far as I know they haven't got the submarine with them at all this year.
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Compare to the May 25 dry run.. and as far as I know they haven't got the submarine with them at all this year.
That is correct, no submarine this time, because Sputnik (the HEAT 1X, Tycho Brahe transportation vessel) is now a ship with engines.
YouTube video, arrival at habour NEXOE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xieoJ4TONGw
Pictures:
http://www.bornholmstidende.dk/?News=Galleri&Id=6008&Pix=42#1
Hint to picture navigation: The danish words "Næste" and "Forrige" are "next" and "previous" in english.
Lars Tørnes Hansen, Copenhagen Suborbitals support, http://www.raketvenner.dk/
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Launch date and date time confirmed to be Friday at 1500 UTC+2
Source: http://ing.dk/artikel/119741-vi-er-paa-defcon-1-opsendelsen-er-naert-forestaaende-og-forsoeges-fredag-kl-15
Probabillity: 70% (Source: http://raketvenner.dk/ )
Pictures, preparations for the rocket launch:
http://ing.dk/artikel/119739-se-forberedelserne-til-dansk-raketforsoeg#0
Using translate.google.com use this link to get danish to english machine translated text:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=da&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2F119739-se-forberedelserne-til-dansk-raketforsoeg%230&act=url
(Note: in my browser the translation does not take place, probably because the sequence of preferred languages are: danish, english, german, russian)
Dry-run tests tomorrow.
Lars Tørnes Hansen, Copenhagen Suborbitals support, http://raketvenner.dk/
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Good grief, the business end of that rocket looks more like a rusty boat than a spacecraft. Where have they been storing it for the last year? Moored in harbour?
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Good grief, the business end of that rocket looks more like a rusty boat than a spacecraft. Where have they been storing it for the last year? Moored in harbour?
Yes for Sputnik, and partially for HEAT 1X and Tycho Brahe.
In october 2010: Tycho Brahe and HEAT 1X was lifted off from Sputnik and seperated. Tycho Brahe and HEAT 1X was then transported by Bornholmsfærgen (a ferry).
Sputnik was trailed to "Refshale øen", Copenhagen where HAB is.
A crane lifted Spunik out of the habour and stored on land. Sputnik had been stored outside HAB during the winter.
Some of this text had been transladed by translate.google.com, and maybe not be correct english, but I hope you understand it.
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Thanks for the reply :)
I'm sure you wouldn't be launching if you didn't have full confidence in the vehicle's integrity.
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Some videos of this morning's preparations: http://bambuser.com/node/1788939
05:03 UTC They're heading out.
09:00 UTC They've reached launch zone.
Launch is scheduled for 13:00 UTC. No word yet as to when live coverage will start but it will be available at:
LIVE TV, TV2: www.tv2.dk
LIVE Internet coverage: www.ing.dk/live
COMBINED INTERNET ACTIVITY http://raketvenner.dk/launch/
LIVE UPDATED TV2 BORNHOLM www.tv2bornholm.dk
Some of these were restricted to Denmark viewers only last year.
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ing.dk is reporting that the preparations were one hour ahead of schedule.
The launch could happen as early as 12:00 UTC.
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Mission Control live streams:
http://raketvenner.dk/launch/ (http://raketvenner.dk/launch/)
Current schedule 15:00 CEST (UTC+2)
TV2 stream (not online yet)
http://sputnik.tv2.dk/play/event/820/
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11:49 UTC looks like www.tv2bornholm.dk has some signal.
The video is coming from the boat Mhv 903 Hjortoe. It seems to be intermittent.
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Got a live video on Jester's first link
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Got a live video on Jester's first link
Yes and T0 is now targeted for 15:30 CEST (1330 UTC).
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need a translator ;D
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So are you two getting the helicopter camera view watching those "mission control centers"?
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no, right now, a couple guys on a ship - talking with what looks like the captain.
Also some live shots of the rocket on the rail.
Previous- They just conducted an interview with one of the Copenhagen guys.
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13:00 UTC Reports that LOX tank is 5 minutes from being full.
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I like the ladder propped up on the side of the rocket!
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Some fantastic helicopter video.. I'm not going to bother repeating the new T+0 I've heard.. it'll go when it's ready.
If you're watching the video, you should know when they are about to launch because the crew will be spirited away in a support boat.
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What is the new go time?
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What is the new go time?
12 minutes from now
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Good thread, let's have this moved and promoted like other live launch threads!
Anyone able to VLC screenshots?
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some translation would be helpful
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some translation would be helpful
from their liveblog:
• Just finished filling the Lox
• Struggling with alien ships in the area
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Thanks Chris. The video feeds are overwhelmed with the international interest..
Hopefully the helicopter will refuel and do another pass soon. I'll see if I can get some screenshots then.
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It seems we are at mercy of the camera being pointed up at a big screen
I think the view is looking up toward the top of the rocket
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http://www.tv2bornholm.dk/live/
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some more google translated statements from http://www.tv2bornholm.dk/moduler/nyheder/news.asp?id=54939
15:39 The tricky fishing boat is now finally out of the launch zone.
15:39 LOX valve closes.
15:40 Now sending helium into the bottom of the rocket to put pressure on the rocket.
15:42 Launch date is estimated by Kristian von Bengtson to lie half hours away, around 16.15.
15:47 The pressure in the rocket rises right now as planned.
15:54 Reporting from Hjortø: rocket facilitates about 30-40 minutes. ( I think this means a launch at 1630 or about 30 minutes from now)
Launch estimates are constantly shifting, I hope they are able to launch today, although they have more openings in the coming weeks, afaik, so a failure to launch wont be a showstopper for another year.
attached a small picture.
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http://sputnik.tv2.dk/play/event/820/
This is the feed I'm watching...same view
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The stream is now showing a newscast next to the mission control center screen, with an interview shown of the builders.
Wish there'd be more publicity, perhaps after the launch. Nice thing to try, this.
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quite a big newsitem on the news in denmark, apperantly ;D
showing helicopter view of the rocket, venting oxygen.
Too bad the quality is quite bad on the stream...
launch now officialy at 1630 according to the cast.
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Wish there'd be more publicity, perhaps after the launch. Nice thing to try, this.
Ustream shows 4000+ viewers on the Arnholm channel alone and local TV is brodcasting their launch. Thats pretty good for a first launch, IMO. :)
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:)
This reminds me of when I followed another pioneering suborbital rocket 50 years ago - - Al Shepard's mercury Redstone in May 1961.
Yep - I'm that old to remember Al's flight and did have opportunity meet him.
Go,Tycho - Go,go,go !!!!
Apollo-phill
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I wish they would stream the actual launch platform view, and not a view of a TV broadcasting it. Still, they're doing a better job than SpaceX. :)
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Flight is getting ready to go through the go/no-go procedure
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16:15 The helicopter on the way out to the rocket. Launch drastic moves closer. Estimated waiting time still varies between 10 and 15 minutes.
16:18 Launch area can be completely cleared of ships at 16.30. Liftoff will lie close to it.
source ( and picture ) from
http://www.tv2bornholm.dk/moduler/nyheder/news.asp?id=54939
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Launch will take place within 10 minutes.. There are still a few boats that needs to be turned away, and we are waiting for the helicopter to return from fueling
looks like they want to get a pretty picture from the launch - Looking forward to it!
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sounds like go/no go polling. ( all Go's from what I hear )
going trough the checklist.
Some english commentating going on.
T-2 minutes and counting!
good luck copenhagen suborbitals!
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14:26 UTC 2 min countdown started.
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Very professional sounding. Best of luck.
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stream jumped to 6000 viewers and counting,
1 minute and counting
go go! ;D
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Good luck guys!
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14:29 UTC Final countdown.
14:29 UTC T+13 Bad ignition.
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no ignition!
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There's a regular flotilla out there.
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t-minus 1:56
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auto sequence apperantly did not start.
"Samples countdown again." <- bad translation?
vehicle at 23 bars, apperantly.
restarted countdown (?)
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14:31 UTC new countdown starting at T-90 seconds.
14:32 UTC final countdown
14:32 UTC liftoff.
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liftoff. went supersonic very quickly.
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LAUNCH AND STABLE!
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Confirmed separation and parachute opened.
Recovery operations starting.
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Crowd goes wild!
Managed to hard screenshot a launch image:
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doesn't look like good chutes !
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Chutes deployed, but they don't look healthy.
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splashdown without good chutes.
Still, they got a good engine start, launch, seperation event and at least got the parachutes out ;D
not bad for basically a garage project!
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Splashdown.
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14:37 UTC Splashdown.
5 minute flight.. the test dummy is ecstatic.
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Capsule is floating horizontally, looks good.
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Doesn't look too bad! Hasn't sunk and will probably only have an Ares I-X dint at worst.
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It certainly looked like the chute was streaming behind the falling stage,
its hard to see on my feed,but they all sound happy !
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exciting stuff. A great day for Copenhagen Suborbitals.
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recovery ship now next to the stage with parachutes.
except for parachute deployment, looks like a succesfull day!
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I wasnt able to see a video feed. If anyone has a link to one, it would be appreciated
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recovery ship now next to the stage with parachutes.
Recovery dinghy. :)
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Congrats to Copenhagen Suborbitals!
It wasn't ISS, but it was still cool! ;D
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According the the mission control webpage they are now waiting for max height confirmation.
EDIT: They also report that separation was done as planned.
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Launch replay here:
http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/article.php/id-40443611:live-raket-sendt-af-sted-med-succes.html?forside
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Launch replay here:
http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/article.php/id-40443611:live-raket-sendt-af-sted-med-succes.html?forside
thanks!
looks like it wobbled a bit at the start, but it went supersonic _really_ fast!
I wonder how high they got!
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both livestreams now stopped; the video is also up on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmGmymAWI4E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmGmymAWI4E)
No new information so far. It seems that their facebook will be the source of updates (?)
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A couple of grabs from the replay linked on previous page
1 Launch
2 "wobble"
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And a couple of the Chute
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Cool!!!
Congrats on the successful launch!
Lykønskninger!
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Here is an update:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/03/danish-teams-homemade-space-capsule-blasts-off/
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Here is an update:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/03/danish-teams-homemade-space-capsule-blasts-off/
designed to carry one tourist briefly into orbit
Right, and Apollo 13 was a shuttle flight.
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Here is an update:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/03/danish-teams-homemade-space-capsule-blasts-off/
ugh.
Launched from a submarine
It says it flew 2 miles high, which seems to be quite a bit lower then expected?
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Here is an update:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/03/danish-teams-homemade-space-capsule-blasts-off/
Multiple U.S. sources are reporting that it went "two miles" or "three kilometers" high, with a total flight time of about 21 seconds. Danish sources, however, say 15-16 km. I think the U.S. sources are confused: 2 km and 21 seconds was when the rocket shut down its engine. Then it continued to coast far beyond that.
An possible explanation can be that the POWERED flight took it upto
3 kilometers before the rocket burn ended, with 1/3rd of the atmosphere below it, and a terminal velocity somewhere between Mach 1 & 2.
Then it simply coasted upto 15-16 Km, with drag and gravity keeping it
from going higher.
15-16 Km is certainly not outer space, and not quite the boundary region below space, but commendably the rocket flew higher than commercial jets fly.
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15-16 Km is certainly not outer space, and not quite the boundary region below space, but commendably the rocket flew higher than commercial jets fly.
Correct, and that is about the altitude this rocket was aiming for; it is quite a bit smaller than their eventual manned flight. I guess we'll have to wait a bit untill we get more info from copenhagen suborbitals to be sure to what height they got.
Anyway, I loved watching this, despite low quality. When it launched and the control room bursts into screaming, I was muttering "yes! yes!" under my breath aswell ;D
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To clear up any confusion:
1st, there was a submarine involved last year, but not this year.
2nd, the target was 15 km, but it reached 3 km, because a flight control system hasn't been implemented yet - it went off course and automatically aborted. This is also the reason why parachute deployment failed - the speed was too high at the time.
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the target was 15 km, but it reached 3 km, because a flight control system hasn't been implemented yet - it went off course and automatically aborted. This is also the reason why parachute deployment failed - the speed was too high at the time.
Thank you for the reply!
I wonder, what are the plans for Copenhagen Suborbitals now? Another one of these, with a guidance system?
On the site I saw some experimentation with dual-liquid fueled rockets aswell. Hopefully they have gotten good data / experience from this launch.
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Pretty good for a first launch. Anyone who gets their rocket flying is doing a pretty good job.
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Pretty good for a first launch. Anyone who gets their rocket flying is doing a pretty good job.
I don't think it's a first launch. :)
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Pretty good for a first launch. Anyone who gets their rocket flying is doing a pretty good job.
I don't think it's a first launch. :)
First launch second attempt at launch.
On the first attempt a LOX valve froze and it didn't leave the pad.
Considering they flew without the flight control system I say it went pretty good.
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Good work!
Any word on condition of the recovered rocket?
Btw I assume it is reusable. Is this correct? I couldn't find any statement regarding reusability on their website.
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Some nice pix of the launch are on the Copenhagen Suborbitals website
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91Qm1GdBQE8&feature=youtu.be
"Copenhagen Suborbitals:
First flight of the HEAT1X-Tycho Brahe ended with a splashdown of the Tycho spaceship after 86 seconds, 8 kilometers downrange from launch site.
The video depicts the pilot (dummy) POV throughout the flight. The parachutes did not deploy fully, so the impact was rough enough to dislodge the observation cupola upon splashdown. The spacecraft was otherwise mostly intact with only minor deformation and water damage.
59.97 as 25fps ~40% slowmotion version for 50Hz/PAL TV."
That's some thrust oscillation there, even at half speed.
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That's some thrust oscillation there, even at half speed.
No kidding. I was wondering how much oscillation those "pulses" in the exhaust you could see in the external view were actually inducing. I guess now I can stop. I wonder if they'll be bad enough that they have to put some sort of damping mechanism in.
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(perhaps this should be moved back to the suborbital forum )
They have put up a pretty big press pack for this launch now.
http://www.copenhagensuborbitals.com/campaignjune2011_data.php (http://www.copenhagensuborbitals.com/campaignjune2011_data.php)
includes multiple video angles, pre -during and after launch pictures, and data. Some pretty nice close ups aswell.
Attached a picture from one of their photo albums.
The spcecraft took a hard landing and suffered quite some damage.
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Whoa, that's some thrust oscillation! Sounded like a steam locomotive taking off!
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Hi everybody :)
Here is a video with highlights, it nicely edited.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7YZpvs513U&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7YZpvs513U&feature=player_embedded)