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Title: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:25 am
LIVE and interactive coverage of STS-129's Flight Day 3:

Current Article : http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2009/11/sts-129-tps-inspections-fd2-photos-extremely-clean-et-133/

Docking Day article: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2009/11/atlantis-rpm-docking-with-iss/

FD3: Docking, FE-2 Return, ELC1 Install, Transfer, EVA1 camp-out
– Rendezvous, RPM & Docking
– Downlink of RPM photos
– FE-2 return and mandatory transfer
– ELC1 unberth, hand-off from SRMS to SSRMS, install on PAS
– EVA1 camp-out (Foreman and Satcher)

Please note, this is interactive, but all posts need to be on topic. If you post images, no more than two per post.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: marshallsplace on 11/18/2009 07:57 am
Atlantis current attitude (first pic) and ISS/Atlantis orbit map (second pic):
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: aquarius on 11/18/2009 08:30 am
Today's wakeup song is Higher Ground by Stevie Wonder for Bobby.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: marshallsplace on 11/18/2009 08:35 am
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 08:49 am
Executive package:

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/403679main_fd03_exec_pkg.pdf

Extensive package today with Transfer lists, Robotic operations and my favorite Joint Scenarios Agreements.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 09:26 am
Handover to Orbit-1 team is in progress.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: shaula1247 on 11/18/2009 09:42 am
Good IMU realign of IMU 1 and 2.  IMU3 to be realigned to unit 1.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: kneecaps on 11/18/2009 09:42 am
CDR working the IMU star of opportunity align, then into the Group B Power ups. Power ups are in the Orbit Pocket checklist. IMU procedures are in the Orbit Ops list (but IMU align is a small procedure).

Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: marshallsplace on 11/18/2009 09:53 am
On board Atlantis:
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Post by: marshallsplace on 11/18/2009 10:00 am
Capcom "we're on board".
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 10:03 am
Executive package:

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/403679main_fd03_exec_pkg.pdf

Extensive package today with Transfer lists, Robotic operations and my favorite Joint Scenarios Agreements.
I'm partial to the rendezvous package, with the PADs for some of the burns.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 10:17 am
According to NASA TV Schedule, Rendevouz operations should have been initiated
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: marshallsplace on 11/18/2009 10:27 am
Heard a call from Atlantis "Manoevre for burn attitude".
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 10:43 am
7 minutes till burn
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 10:44 am
The NH burn is first today...the list with preliminary times is in the Execute Package, along with the prelim PADs.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 10:48 am
Good config for the burn
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 10:50 am
Burning, Good burn no trim required (not going to record this one, too many people in the way)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 10:57 am
Sure would be nice to see some payload bay shots..... normally we would see the burns from outside
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 11:03 am
Eating breakfast and working.... the typical routine but in space
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 11:05 am
PAD 4 now onboard  will fire both OMS
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 11:09 am
PAD 4 now onboard  will fire both OMS
This is the NC-4 burn.

Delta-V is ~83 fps, duration of about 53 seconds.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 11:11 am
Hopefully we could get the commander's view for NC-4 like STS-124.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 11:17 am
Stan Love called up a few minutes ago that they're expecting "ratty" communications and then a TDRS handover in the period just before the NC-4 burn, so the crew should expect a late "good config" call for the burn.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 11:20 am
Looks like Leland is adjusting the payloadbay cameras for docking operations
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 11:21 am
Tallyho Atlantis!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 11:33 am
Good config for NC-4 burn
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 11:34 am
NC-4 burn started
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 11:35 am
Good burn, no trim required
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 11:42 am
Shuttle Tallyho on station
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 11:50 am
View of APAS ring extended:
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Moonbase_Alphan on 11/18/2009 11:51 am
star tracker nav pass underway.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 11:56 am
Think we might be getting any station HD footage  ;D?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 11:57 am
Houston we have NCC do you want it now?

Charlie:  I am pretty bored right now, go ahead.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 11:58 am
star tracker nav pass underway.
Thanks for the play-by-play!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 12:03 pm
 Now seeing station from shuttle cameras:
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Moonbase_Alphan on 11/18/2009 12:04 pm
star tracker pass complete. good nav updates
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: dawei on 11/18/2009 12:08 pm
A few minutes ago Scorch said it would be almost impossible to "bingo" this approach and Houston agreed that would be a major loss of style points.  What does this refer to?  Aborting the approach due to running low on fuel?  Do they have more fuel than normal?  How is this approach different/easier than normal?  Just curious.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 12:09 pm
good burn, no trim required
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 12:09 pm
Agreed, enjoying the play by play Moonbase!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 12:12 pm
you can start to make out a solar array on the right
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: NavySpaceFan on 11/18/2009 12:18 pm
you can start to make out a solar array on the right

I always hear Obi-Wan Kenobi at this point in the rendezvous.  :)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: HyperTay on 11/18/2009 12:19 pm
I am not a professional photographer, but I know that using flash from this distance does no good. Especially when the lens is inside a window. Is there a reason they don't turn it off or am I way off base?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 12:27 pm
KU-radar data is good, so no video from shuttle during docking,

Rendezvous track is up on the right screen
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Jorge on 11/18/2009 12:28 pm
A few minutes ago Scorch said it would be almost impossible to "bingo" this approach and Houston agreed that would be a major loss of style points.  What does this refer to?  Aborting the approach due to running low on fuel?

That's correct.

Quote
  Do they have more fuel than normal?  How is this approach different/easier than normal?  Just curious.

The approach is the same. Prop margins are higher on this flight because the payload mass is relatively light.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Moonbase_Alphan on 11/18/2009 12:30 pm
processing radar measurements into nav. expect to continue using ku for radar ops up through the rpm.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 12:35 pm
Docking day article on during this hour, which includes notes on a ODS Ring Alignment issue (cleared) and exclusive quotes from FDO Bill Tracy on today's ops (via Philip Sloss' interview at the MCC-H sims).

It's a good one :)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 12:42 pm
Just called up the PAD for TI and TI Delay and that the ground is Go for TI.

TI is a left OMS burn:

dvx +9.2 fps
dvy 0.0
dvz +0.6

TI delay is only if there's some sort of problem and would stop the approach and hold the orbiter at that position about eight miles behind the station; those numbers were:

dvx +12.1
dvy +0.1
dvz +0.4
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 12:43 pm
Expedition 20 preparing for Atlantis
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 12:44 pm
Go for TI , 18:34 will begin for 4 minutes
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: kneecaps on 11/18/2009 12:53 pm
I don't have audio at the moment, has anybody been hearing how big the nav updates are? There was quite a large SV update on 128 (around 15k feet at one point).

Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 12:53 pm
Go to burn onboard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 12:54 pm
Ground likes the onboard solution, go to burn the onboard targets for TI.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 12:54 pm
FD3 article:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2009/11/atlantis-rpm-docking-with-iss/
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Jorge on 11/18/2009 12:56 pm
I don't have audio at the moment, has anybody been hearing how big the nav updates are? There was quite a large SV update on 128 (around 15k feet at one point).

Almost 10K during star tracker nav. Initial RR residuals were around 1K, RR nav took it out very quickly. Nav is very well converged right now.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 12:56 pm
maneuvering to burn attitude
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: kneecaps on 11/18/2009 12:58 pm
Ground likes the onboard solution, go to burn the onboard targets for TI.


Did they say if they were burning the onboard Filter or Prop solution?

Background: The filter solution is based on the nav state that has included updates from the sensors (star tracker, radar etc). Prop is the propagated solution that doesn't include sensor updates).

This protects against having navigation polluted by possible bad sensor data and hence ending up with bad burn solutions. 
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 12:59 pm
Shuttle now in attitude for TI burn
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Jorge on 11/18/2009 01:00 pm
Ground likes the onboard solution, go to burn the onboard targets for TI.


Did they say if they were burning the onboard Filter or Prop solution?

Background: The filter solution is based on the nav state that has included updates from the sensors (star tracker, radar etc). Prop is the propagated solution that doesn't include sensor updates).

This protects against having navigation polluted by possible bad sensor data and hence ending up with bad burn solutions. 

The filter solution.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 01:01 pm
Zoom in please!

Thank you!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: kneecaps on 11/18/2009 01:03 pm

Almost 10K during star tracker nav. Initial RR residuals were around 1K, RR nav took it out very quickly. Nav is very well converged right now.

Many thanks as usual Jorge. Are star tracker residuals on the 10k - 15k order 'usual' for historical ISS rendezvous'?

EDIT: Thanks for the filter confirmation, knew it would be. Shuttle RNAV is super smooth, the precision of the system is amazing.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 01:11 pm
TI burn a few minutes ago was good.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 01:13 pm
Really didnt see the burn
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Jorge on 11/18/2009 01:16 pm

Almost 10K during star tracker nav. Initial RR residuals were around 1K, RR nav took it out very quickly. Nav is very well converged right now.

Many thanks as usual Jorge. Are star tracker residuals on the 10k - 15k order 'usual' for historical ISS rendezvous'?

10k was the cumulative state vector update, not the residual. The initial star tracker residuals were not large (0.12 and 0.18 deg vertical/horizontal angles). Out at long ranges even small angle residuals can result in substantial state vector updates. Sometimes the downtrack updates at the beginning of a pass can be spurious since the star tracker can't measure range. Near the end of star tracker nav, the orbiter gets farther below ISS and the star tracker gets better at resolving downtrack.

10k is fairly large for a star tracker state vector update but it was fine in this case. We use the initial RR residuals as a sanity check on how well the star tracker did, and the initial RR residuals were down to around 1k, confirming that the star tracker did the right thing.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 01:19 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Edward Carlson on 11/18/2009 01:20 pm
FD3 article:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2009/11/atlantis-rpm-docking-with-iss/

Great as always, and really enjoyed the controllers comments.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 01:30 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 01:36 pm
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Post by: robertross on 11/18/2009 01:38 pm
Looks like they are making they point about the yellow ribbon campain!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 01:40 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 01:46 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Fuji on 11/18/2009 01:47 pm
Executive package:

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/403679main_fd03_exec_pkg.pdf

Extensive package today with Transfer lists, Robotic operations and my favorite Joint Scenarios Agreements.

WOW! Item 28.1 Bluebell Ice Cream  36 cups.
 (in Double Coldbag to MELFI 2)
**Transfer if they have not been eaten by Shuttle crew.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 01:48 pm
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Post by: Moonbase_Alphan on 11/18/2009 02:00 pm
good mc2 burn
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:02 pm
Loving the banter. Charlie again?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 02:07 pm
Loving the banter. Charlie again?
Yes.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:09 pm
A useful one stop page I've screenshot out of a MMT presentation (L2).
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:09 pm
HAving problems finding SSRMS joint angles on the station side
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:12 pm
Approaching MC3 burn, atlantis calling station
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: robertross on 11/18/2009 02:14 pm
Executive package:

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/403679main_fd03_exec_pkg.pdf

Extensive package today with Transfer lists, Robotic operations and my favorite Joint Scenarios Agreements.

WOW! Item 28.1 Bluebell Ice Cream  36 cups.
 (in Double Coldbag to MELFI 2)
**Transfer if they have not been eaten by Shuttle crew.

Awesome stuff!
I'm sure they'll save them some.  :)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Moonbase_Alphan on 11/18/2009 02:16 pm
good mc3 burn
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:20 pm
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Post by: marshallsplace on 11/18/2009 02:25 pm
"I'm looking at you, looking at me":
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Moonbase_Alphan on 11/18/2009 02:26 pm
good mc4 burn
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:27 pm
Darn you teacher for keeping me from these amazing views!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:30 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:30 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:32 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:35 pm
<1000 ft
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: nathan.moeller on 11/18/2009 02:36 pm
It's odd seeing the RMS in a grappled position for the RPM.  It's usually just extended above the port sill of the bay.  But hey - if it saves them time today, then more power to them.  Question though - why was this never done on previous flights if it saves time?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:37 pm
Dextre leading the welcoming party
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:38 pm
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:40 pm
680 feet out, on the RBar.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:41 pm
00180.jpg - awesome capture Ron. Showing Atlantis' FRCS firing for alignment with the Rbar.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:42 pm
618 feet out on the Radar.
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 02:44 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:44 pm
Interesting how the radar range keeps going up and down between about 610 and 640 feet.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 02:45 pm
600ft from station. Waiting for the right sunlight before the RPM starts.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:45 pm
Beautiful machine.
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Post by: robertross on 11/18/2009 02:46 pm
And soon we'll see one of the best ballet maneuvers in space...
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:46 pm
ELCs in very clear view now.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 02:47 pm
8 minutes until the RPM will begin. Station crew is getting ready in Zvezda.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:48 pm
8 mins to RPM Start.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:48 pm
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Post by: nathan.moeller on 11/18/2009 02:49 pm
ISS shadow traversing Atlantis
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:49 pm
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 02:49 pm
Peru underneath shuttle
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:49 pm
Awesome view:
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: kneecaps on 11/18/2009 02:50 pm
It's odd seeing the RMS in a grappled position for the RPM.  It's usually just extended above the port sill of the bay.  But hey - if it saves them time today, then more power to them.  Question though - why was this never done on previous flights if it saves time?

It doesn't save any time. It moves a procedure which costs time from a crowded bit of the timeline (post docking), to a quieter time frame (Flight day 2). It has to be done at some point, the question is when.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:50 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Jorge on 11/18/2009 02:50 pm
ISS shadow traversing Atlantis

Which is exactly why the RPM start window is a little later for 129 than for most flights; the window opens after Atlantis is no longer in shadow.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:51 pm
Shadow of the ISS passing over Atlantis payload bay
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:51 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: nathan.moeller on 11/18/2009 02:52 pm
It's odd seeing the RMS in a grappled position for the RPM.  It's usually just extended above the port sill of the bay.  But hey - if it saves them time today, then more power to them.  Question though - why was this never done on previous flights if it saves time?

It doesn't save any time. It moves a procedure which costs time from a crowded bit of the timeline (post docking), to a quieter time frame (Flight day 2). It has to be done at some point, the question is when.

That's what I meant.  But that doesn't answer my question - Why hasn't this been done before if it de-crowds the timeline on FD3/4?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:52 pm
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Post by: Moonbase_Alphan on 11/18/2009 02:52 pm
rpm started!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:53 pm
rpm started!

Awesome, now to wait for the the feed to catch up with your real time :)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:54 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 02:55 pm
On at the 90...whoops, wrong flight day.  Nose pointed at station, though...
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:55 pm
Now we're there on the feed with RPM start.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 02:55 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:56 pm
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Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 02:56 pm
Start photos call made.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:56 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:57 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:57 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:57 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:58 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:58 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 02:59 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 02:59 pm
Start photos.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:00 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:00 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:00 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:01 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Moonbase_Alphan on 11/18/2009 03:01 pm
rpm complete
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:01 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:02 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:02 pm
Stunning.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:03 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:03 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:04 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Lawntonlookirs on 11/18/2009 03:05 pm
Atlantis looked so graceful as she did her flip.  Nothing obvious from what I saw. 
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:05 pm
RPM complete. That was wonderful.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:05 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Moonbase_Alphan on 11/18/2009 03:05 pm
torva initiated. heading up to the v-bar
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Lawntonlookirs on 11/18/2009 03:06 pm
Any chance of anyone in the UK or spain seeing the pass as it goes over shortly?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:06 pm
"I was hoping no one was in my way - we're coming at ya!" :)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:07 pm
Any chance of anyone in the UK or spain seeing the passs as it goes over shortly?

Not dark enough yet.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:08 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Moonbase_Alphan on 11/18/2009 03:08 pm
taking Ku to comm - should start getting some good video
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:09 pm
Heading up the VBar (as Moonbase already said) to 300 feet distance.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:10 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:11 pm
SSRMS EE in view
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:12 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:14 pm
go for docking
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:14 pm
Live from Atlantis:
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:15 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5067MyF1tU
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:15 pm
RNDZ and laser beams, doesn't get any better ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Lee Jay on 11/18/2009 03:17 pm
This approach is all being done with verns, correct?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:18 pm
I think they call that the LRF (Laser Range Finder).
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:18 pm
on V-bar, go to aproach to 250 feet, go for docking.  Houston wants centerline camera on downlink
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:20 pm
376 feet out. Holding on the VBar for approach to PMA2.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:21 pm
340 feet and closing
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Jorge on 11/18/2009 03:21 pm
This approach is all being done with verns, correct?

For attitude control, correct. All translation is done with primaries, so the DAP upmodes to PRI each time the THC is deflected.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:21 pm
Over to Ron as I only just heard the go for 250 feet, so I'm lagging.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Jorge on 11/18/2009 03:21 pm
I think they call that the LRF (Laser Range Finder).

Actually HHL (Hand Held LIDAR).
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:22 pm
Over to Ron as I only just heard the go for 250 feet, so I'm lagging.

No need, have cable as well as webstream audio is faster than screenshots
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: John44 on 11/18/2009 03:23 pm
 STS-129 - RENDEZVOUS PITCH MANEUVER
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5512
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:24 pm
within 300 feet
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:24 pm
I think they call that the LRF (Laser Range Finder).

Actually HHL (Hand Held LIDAR).

Thanks Jorge!

Closing in on 300 feet out.

Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Lee Jay on 11/18/2009 03:26 pm
This approach is all being done with verns, correct?

For attitude control, correct. All translation is done with primaries, so the DAP upmodes to PRI each time the THC is deflected.

Ah...thanks.  So, on the schematic screen where the firings are seen, the large "bubbles" are the primaries and the small bubbles are the verns?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Jorge on 11/18/2009 03:26 pm
This approach is all being done with verns, correct?

For attitude control, correct. All translation is done with primaries, so the DAP upmodes to PRI each time the THC is deflected.

Ah...thanks.  So, on the schematic screen where the firings are seen, the large "bubbles" are the primaries and the small bubbles are the verns?

Yes.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:26 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:27 pm
280 feet.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:27 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:28 pm
240 ft
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:29 pm
0.2 feet per second (not mile per PAO) closure.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:31 pm
Docking may only be a few minutes later than previously scheduled.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:33 pm
Will be about 200 feet now, waiting for telementry to catch up.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:34 pm
And there's 200 feet.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:34 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:34 pm
185 feet.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: kneecaps on 11/18/2009 03:36 pm
I'm seeing an 'Auto Angular Flyout' coming here.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:37 pm
Atlantis
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:38 pm
About to slow to 0.1 feet per second closure.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:40 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:40 pm
2o minutes to docking
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:41 pm
70 feet
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:44 pm
60 feet
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:45 pm
50 feet
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 03:45 pm
Atlantis now partially obscured by some of the station modules from the vantage point of this truss camera.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:46 pm
40 feet, slowing down, docking in 14 minutes
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Jorge on 11/18/2009 03:47 pm
I'm seeing an 'Auto Angular Flyout' coming here.

They put in 0.5 deg of pitch.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:47 pm
30 feet, final approach
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:48 pm
20 feet
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:50 pm
10 feet
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:50 pm
Final approach, docking within 5 mins.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:50 pm
5 feet
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Moonbase_Alphan on 11/18/2009 03:51 pm
and we have contact
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:51 pm
Contact, and Capture, we have docking!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: elmarko on 11/18/2009 03:51 pm
Quick question, obviously we don't see Ku video from the Shuttle during docking because it's running in NAV mode, but why don't we get any Ku video from the Station? No TDRS coverage at the moment?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 03:51 pm
Contact and Capture. Excellent work!!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Jorge on 11/18/2009 03:53 pm
Quick question, obviously we don't see Ku video from the Shuttle during docking because it's running in NAV mode, but why don't we get any Ku video from the Station? No TDRS coverage at the moment?

Right, ISS Ku has large amounts of blockage.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: elmarko on 11/18/2009 03:54 pm
Quick question, obviously we don't see Ku video from the Shuttle during docking because it's running in NAV mode, but why don't we get any Ku video from the Station? No TDRS coverage at the moment?

Right, ISS Ku has large amounts of blockage.

Line of Sight problems with the station structure?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:54 pm
Quick question, obviously we don't see Ku video from the Shuttle during docking because it's running in NAV mode, but why don't we get any Ku video from the Station? No TDRS coverage at the moment?

Off Australia KU seems to be spotty
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 03:55 pm
Waiting for relative motion to dampen
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: klausd on 11/18/2009 03:56 pm
animated gif
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Jorge on 11/18/2009 03:58 pm
Quick question, obviously we don't see Ku video from the Shuttle during docking because it's running in NAV mode, but why don't we get any Ku video from the Station? No TDRS coverage at the moment?

Right, ISS Ku has large amounts of blockage.

Line of Sight problems with the station structure?

Yes, structural blockage.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 04:01 pm
Combined stack, will be back need to work on the timelapse video:
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: robertross on 11/18/2009 04:02 pm
Contact and Capture. Excellent work!!

Hoorrray!!!!  :)
Welcome Atlantis!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 04:06 pm
Performing leak checks
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 04:08 pm
Atlantis now in charge of the combined stack
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 04:10 pm
And a view of the SSPTS cables - Atlantis being the only orbiter not to recieve that mod.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 04:12 pm
Inside Node 2, waiting on STS-129
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 04:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD3K_0KJKBk
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 04:21 pm
I will really miss this shot when they are retired:
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 04:25 pm
initial leak checks complete, proceeding with initial vestibule pressurization
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: John44 on 11/18/2009 04:29 pm
 STS-129 - ATLANTIS / ISS DOCKING
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5513
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 04:32 pm
Frank and Nicole opening the hatch for the PMA-2/Node 2:
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 04:32 pm
Node-2 forward hatch is open
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: chksix on 11/18/2009 04:36 pm
Nicole signing crew photos :)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 04:38 pm
Performing leak check on vestibule
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 04:52 pm
10 minutes left in leak check
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 04:59 pm
Placing protective covers on the flightdeck windows

(40!!)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Lawntonlookirs on 11/18/2009 05:02 pm
It appears that they are giving more coverage of activities inside the orbiter this time.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 05:03 pm
leak check complete, go to open APAS hatch
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 05:07 pm
station now has attitude control
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: NavySpaceFan on 11/18/2009 05:07 pm
What's the meaning behind the "40!!!!" exclamation a while ago?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 05:17 pm
Both hatches on PMA-2 is open, the remaining hatch is the shuttle hatch.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 05:20 pm
An empty flight deck since everybody is down at the hatch.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 05:22 pm
Orbit-2 team is taking over from the Orbit-1 team at MCC-H.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 05:24 pm
The Mission Status Briefing will be in about a hour at 2.30 ET
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 05:26 pm
giant duct staged in node 2 to supply air to ODS once opened
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 05:30 pm
well apparently I missed them entering
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: NavySpaceFan on 11/18/2009 05:31 pm
Well that was quick and quiet.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 05:32 pm
where was the bell?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 05:33 pm
PAO sad earlier that he would say when hatch opening accrued if not captured on video guess that didn't happen.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 05:34 pm
Shuttle crew is going through their safety briefing.

(Now PAO mentions the time of hatch opening)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 05:35 pm
Shuttle crew in Node-1
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 05:36 pm
now playing entry:

note only 12 people on station, not 13
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 05:38 pm
Was ISS ku busy at the moment of hatch opening or why didn't they send it live? (maybe by downloading of RPM pictures?)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: NavySpaceFan on 11/18/2009 05:38 pm
Can't tell if COL Hobaugh was rung aboard or not.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 05:40 pm
Nicole Stott joined the STS-129 crew at the moment of hatch opening and will board the shuttle in a case of emergency from now on. This is possible since she don't have to swap seat-liner with a new station crew member.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 05:41 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 05:41 pm
Nicole Stott joined the STS-129 crew at the moment of hatch opening and will board the shuttle in a case of emergency from now on. This is possible since she don't have to swap seat-liner with a new station crew member.

PAO mentioned that her suit liner will be returned to Atlantis, I really dont know why they would bother (no one is going to use it)
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 05:43 pm
Nicole Stott joined the STS-129 crew at the moment of hatch opening and will board the shuttle in a case of emergency from now on. This is possible since she don't have to swap seat-liner with a new station crew member.

PAO mentioned that her suit liner will be returned to Atlantis, I really dont know why they would bother (no one is going to use it)

I think I read in the executive package that they need the space and mass in the Soyuz for downmass. PAO metioned earlier that they will temp-stow it in Kibo logistic module (Don't know the acronym).
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 05:43 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlKP7DSXSWg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f26Pjn9qeUQ
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 05:45 pm
Back to a live view of Jeff Williams putting in the duct Ron talked about earlier in to the shuttle.
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Post by: Colds7ream on 11/18/2009 05:47 pm
I think I read in the executive package that they need the space and mass in the Soyuz for downmass. PAO metioned earlier that they will temp-stow it in Kibo logistic module (Don't know the acronym).

JEM ELM-PS, I believe. :-)
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 05:51 pm
Leland Melvin setting up to perform ELC transfer, and Roman is very happy
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 05:55 pm
Russian Segment from the payload bay of the Shuttle. We can see the a Soyuz and a Progress currently docked to ISS.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 05:57 pm
RMS grappling ELC 1, it should be moved to the truss next
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 06:02 pm
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 06:05 pm
Have they started with transfer?
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 06:09 pm
transferring EMU's
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 06:10 pm
Have they started with transfer?

EMUs

Packed mission. EVA-1 tomorrow, camp out tonight.
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 06:11 pm
Melvin was ready to start with ELC-1 transfer early but was asked to hold of and start on the planned time.
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 06:12 pm
EMU transfer
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 06:15 pm
Second EMU now transferred to the quest airlock
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 06:15 pm
SSRMS waiting for ELC-1
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 06:20 pm
Beautiful sunset.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 06:23 pm
Jeff Williams and Butch Wilmore setting up the SSRMS
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Post by: seawolfe on 11/18/2009 06:25 pm
Is it just me or does it sound like the PAO is eating?  :D
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 06:27 pm
The unberthing of ELC-1 from the payload bay will occur during the MSB.
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 06:32 pm
And we are off to MSB. Anyone that will cover it? I can't write fast enough and spell correctly at the same time.
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 06:34 pm
Reviewing the day, both vehicles doing well.
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 06:35 pm
All RPM photos down linked. Been verified at the moment
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Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 06:36 pm
Melvin was ready to start with ELC-1 transfer early but was asked to hold of and start on the planned time.
Had to do with momentum management.
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 06:37 pm
HD video capability on board shuttle is fixed after a cable problem.
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 06:38 pm
HD comm line fixed. Highbandwidth with the laptops being troubleshooted, working fine on the lower bandwidth.

Common attach site powered up for ELC.
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 06:40 pm
Problems with the WPA. Bill asking if the Station is good until 130.

Water being transfered from Shuttle, but not sure on how many months that gives capability on, but ok for LON CSCS, so should be fine for months.
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Post by: nathan.moeller on 11/18/2009 06:41 pm
Is it possible that they will replay the ELC-1 unberthing on the FD highlights?
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 06:46 pm
Is it possible that they will replay the ELC-1 unberthing on the FD highlights?

Hope so, this MSB isn't all that interesting with the "Is this a busy crew" type questions.
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 06:50 pm
I have the questions written down if you want me to post them?
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 06:50 pm
Todd H's questions were good. Just nothing "updatable" to report from it into the post.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 06:51 pm
ELC-1 just out of the bay. 
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 06:51 pm
I have the questions written down if you want me to post them?

Yeah, sure!
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 06:54 pm
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 06:54 pm
Ok here is the questions and answers really shortened:

Q: Difference in low- bandwidth and high-bandwith?

A: 40 bit usually now 2 mbit. 24 times slower. Takes longer to download images.

Q: Will they have fuller workload then previous crew?

A: Full FD-3. Really important to get everything planned for FD-3 done to not cause delays downstream.

Q: Difference between 3 ISS crew and 6 ISS crew?

A: Tremendous help in utilizing ISS. A lot of work needed to just get ISS working.
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 06:54 pm
Q: Number of photos from RPM downlinked?

A: 150 images from each camera so 300 in total.

Q: Can they leave bandwidth problem and continue with their work? Other problems with the limited bandwidth?

A: No work for crew. File transfer done by ground.

Q: Will bandwidth cause problems with image for determining if focused inspection is needed?

A: No problem. Downloaded yesterday. They can now use ISS Wi-Fi network.

Q: Importance of stockpile of ORUs?

A: Imported when or if parts break down.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 06:56 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 06:58 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:02 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:04 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:06 pm
in intermediate position
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:08 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:10 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:12 pm
In motion again
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:13 pm
go for SSRMS grapple
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:15 pm
SSRMS moving to pregrapple
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:19 pm
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 07:19 pm
Nicole Stott and Frank De Winne is working on the WPA.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:20 pm
Moving in to grapple
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:25 pm
Looks like  SSRMS has grappled
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:27 pm
RMS go for ELC-1 ungrapple
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:31 pm
RMS backing away
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:36 pm
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Post by: racshot65 on 11/18/2009 07:37 pm
What does WPA stand for ?

Thanks
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Post by: stockman on 11/18/2009 07:38 pm
nice shots - Baja I assume.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:40 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:41 pm
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Post by: rdale on 11/18/2009 07:43 pm
What does WPA stand for ?


Water Processor Assembly.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=17038.msg505860
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:43 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:44 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:45 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:47 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:49 pm
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Post by: Riley1066 on 11/18/2009 07:51 pm
Are the PDGFs on top of the ELCs considered spares or will they be active new locations for arm operations?
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:54 pm
Slow Progress
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Post by: John44 on 11/18/2009 07:55 pm
 STS-129 - MISSION STATUS BRIEFING FD 3
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5515

 STS-129 - ATLANTIS - ISS CREW HATCH OPENING AND WELCOME CEREMONY
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5514
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 07:57 pm
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Post by: chksix on 11/18/2009 07:59 pm
Were they flirting with Nicole? Couldn't hear exactly but it was funny :)
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 08:00 pm
Were they flirting with Nicole? Couldn't hear exactly but it was funny :)

Twas Swanny at fault!
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 08:01 pm
waiting on UCCAS activation, 20 minutes ahead
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 08:03 pm
By the way, I think this is the UCCAS that was stuck on STS-119, and eventually freed on STS-127:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2009/07/live-sts-127-preparing-for-launch-attempt-6-uccas-status/
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 08:06 pm
Moving in:
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 08:08 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 08:10 pm
3 good ready to latch indicators
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 08:26 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 08:28 pm
ELC-1 Capture confirmed
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Post by: robertross on 11/18/2009 08:28 pm
ELC-1 Capture confirmed

Awesome! One down...
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 08:32 pm
Go for Ground SSRMS ops
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 08:38 pm
Robotics done, what a beautiful cargo carrier!
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 08:40 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Nyd-EQmnM 

Timelapse^
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 08:59 pm
Per PAO, they're going to playback the SRB sep to splashdown video from the chase plane after the MMT Briefing.  That ought to be good!
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 09:01 pm
The crew is going through tomorrows EVA at the moment.
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 09:02 pm
I'll see what I can summarize, but I gotta run soon!

Leroy Cain: Successful day, docking.  ELC work underway.  MMT discussed mission progress, and have no significant issues or problems to report.  Vehicle performance has been outstanding.  Testament to the men and women who get them working.

Looked at window 4 camera at MMT.  Cessna video will be coming later.  It shows SRB sep and parachute performance.
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 09:04 pm
Question:  Any possible conjunctions this mission?

A: Always looking, but no near term threats.


Q: Is 3 still the number of foam events being worked?

A: Saw a little bit of imagery, but nothing new.


Q: When will TPS clearance be given?

A: FI meeting will happen tonight, that will determine whether a FI is necessary.  MMT did not see any ROIs to warrant an FI, however full analysis of imagery not yet complete.  Assuming no FI, clearance will be given probably Friday.
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Post by: arkaska on 11/18/2009 09:05 pm
Bill: "I don't have any questions."

PAO: "Wow!"
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 09:07 pm
Q: Did bandwidth problem cause any issue with downlink of TPS data?

A: No.

That ends the presser.  Wow, that was the shortest I've seen!


Now for the chase plane video.  8)
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 09:07 pm
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 09:09 pm
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 09:09 pm
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 09:10 pm
Seems to be from a longer distance than the I-X chase plane.
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 09:10 pm
Very hard to catch those boosters, as they only show up well as they rotate through the sunlight.
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 09:11 pm
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 09:11 pm
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 09:12 pm
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 09:12 pm
Those chutes worked :)
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 09:12 pm
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 09:12 pm
Splash!
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2009 09:13 pm
Oh my, MMT presser came and went. That caught me out. Thanks for covering Nick!
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 09:14 pm
And the frustum descending afterwards.
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Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/18/2009 09:14 pm
Oh my, MMT presser came and went. That caught me out. Thanks for covering Nick!

No problem!  Shortest I've ever seen.
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 09:16 pm
a bit hazy, but once she punched through the cloud deck it was clear as a bell
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 09:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSicsrxA8Pw
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 10:41 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 10:43 pm
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Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 10:44 pm
Shuttle crew is downlinking some crew-choice HD video now...
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 10:47 pm
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Post by: psloss on 11/18/2009 10:51 pm
Heh -- while Butch was narrating a little bit of the HD video after the hatches were open, Megan McArthur said "that docking mechanism is a mystery to me." :)
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 10:51 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 10:54 pm
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 11:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUobf1TpWuo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPfeJRosBqo
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Post by: NavySpaceFan on 11/18/2009 11:19 pm
As the flight day comes to a close I still want to know who put the smiley face on the station's end effector.  And I'm glad to see the bells were rung today, just not picked up by the audio.
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Post by: seawolfe on 11/18/2009 11:21 pm
As the flight day comes to a close I still want to know who put the smiley face on the station's end effector.  And I'm glad to see the bells were rung today, just not picked up by the audio.

Of course you know that that "smiley face" really was the logo for Canada Space.... right?   ???
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Post by: NavySpaceFan on 11/18/2009 11:29 pm
As the flight day comes to a close I still want to know who put the smiley face on the station's end effector.  And I'm glad to see the bells were rung today, just not picked up by the audio.

Of course you know that that "smiley face" really was the logo for Canada Space.... right?   ???

Well I'll be damned!  My apologies to all our Canadian brethren, that is indeed an upside down CSA emblem.
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Post by: shaula1247 on 11/18/2009 11:38 pm
Airlock hatch closed  for spacewalk preps
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/18/2009 11:44 pm
SSRMS commanded to ungrapple by ground
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Post by: robertross on 11/18/2009 11:49 pm
As the flight day comes to a close I still want to know who put the smiley face on the station's end effector.  And I'm glad to see the bells were rung today, just not picked up by the audio.

Of course you know that that "smiley face" really was the logo for Canada Space.... right?   ???

Well I'll be damned!  My apologies to all our Canadian brethren, that is indeed an upside down CSA emblem.

No apologies necessary...

Just watching the lunar landings on the History Channel & found out two things I didn't know. Neil used a ball point pen to get the lunar lander engine to activate on the surface because the toggle failed, and Apollo 12's lightning event actually shut down the whole spacecraft.

We learn something new every day.  :)
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Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/19/2009 12:01 am
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Post by: seawolfe on 11/19/2009 12:08 am
Sleep time; looks like there won't be a need for a focused inspection as told to crew by Megan.  Everything is looking good so far.
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Post by: stockman on 11/19/2009 12:17 am
never a bad view on this vehicle...
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: stockman on 11/19/2009 12:18 am
SSRMS in motion
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: stockman on 11/19/2009 12:19 am
nice view along the truss
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/19/2009 12:20 am
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: stockman on 11/19/2009 12:22 am
SSRMS continues to move
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: stockman on 11/19/2009 12:26 am
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: stockman on 11/19/2009 12:41 am
Since both crews are asleep I assume all this arm motion is being done by the ground...
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: stockman on 11/19/2009 12:44 am
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: robertross on 11/19/2009 12:49 am
Since both crews are asleep I assume all this arm motion is being done by the ground...

Everywhere I look I see advertisements for Canadian goods...lol
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: stockman on 11/19/2009 12:54 am
Highlights coming up   - 34 minute run time
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: stockman on 11/19/2009 12:59 am
Some experiment pictures downlinked...Butterfly larvae
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: Ronsmytheiii on 11/19/2009 01:08 am
Some experiment pictures downlinked...Butterfly larvae

Basically caterpillars
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: nathan.moeller on 11/19/2009 01:12 am
As the flight day comes to a close I still want to know who put the smiley face on the station's end effector.  And I'm glad to see the bells were rung today, just not picked up by the audio.

Of course you know that that "smiley face" really was the logo for Canada Space.... right?   ???

Well I'll be damned!  My apologies to all our Canadian brethren, that is indeed an upside down CSA emblem.

If it makes you feel any better, I thought the same thing when I saw it on the web feed.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: generic_handle_42 on 11/19/2009 01:57 am
As the flight day comes to a close I still want to know who put the smiley face on the station's end effector.  And I'm glad to see the bells were rung today, just not picked up by the audio.

Of course you know that that "smiley face" really was the logo for Canada Space.... right?   ???

Well I'll be damned!  My apologies to all our Canadian brethren, that is indeed an upside down CSA emblem.

If it makes you feel any better, I thought the same thing when I saw it on the web feed.

Hey, I'm Canadian, and it threw me for a loop!  I could have sworn it was a smiley face, but then I realized what it really was.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: stockman on 11/19/2009 02:38 am
couple of nice shots from the flight day highlights package - ISS rising over the Shuttle during the RPM
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: stockman on 11/19/2009 02:43 am
SSRMS has been moved from WS7 to WS4 - ready to support tomorrows spacewalk- was scheduled for  a move later tonight but the ground finished the task early.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: MKremer on 11/19/2009 03:08 am
Some experiment pictures downlinked...Butterfly larvae

That's great that they survived both launch and microgravity so far!

Their tiny brains are already so confused from multiple G-forces to sudden zero-G... it'll be interesting to see how their brains determine how to align their individual cocoons. I hope they survive through the mission.

Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: MKremer on 11/19/2009 03:20 am
Robotics done, what a beautiful cargo carrier!

While the cargo carriers and their component cargo is critically important... from a visual standpoint is sort of sad that the carrier mass is now blocking visual truss views of the rotary joint area. I've kind of gotten used to the direct views of that area from the upper truss cam.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: John44 on 11/19/2009 05:15 am
 STS-129 Ascent & Booster Separation - Splashdown
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5519

STS-129 - FLIGHT DAY 3 HIGHLIGHTS
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5518

 STS-129 - POST MMT BRIEFING FD 3
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5516
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: TheFallen on 11/19/2009 06:54 am
Some experiment pictures downlinked...Butterfly larvae

Any ISS crewmember assigned with removing all that crap?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: MKremer on 11/19/2009 07:26 am
Some experiment pictures downlinked...Butterfly larvae

Any ISS crewmember assigned with removing all that crap?

Are you trying to be funny, or do you not really know what this type of biological experiment takes in terms of years of planning and development (and not being guaranteed that the results of those efforts will actually get a chance to fly)?
(use the emoticons!)

I can see the concept being funny - butterflies happen to escape and start fluttering around the ISS, perching on handholds and laptops.  :)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-129 Flight Day 3 - RNDZ, RPM, Docking
Post by: TheFallen on 11/19/2009 07:40 am
Some experiment pictures downlinked...Butterfly larvae

Any ISS crewmember assigned with removing all that crap?

Are you trying to be funny, or do you not really know what this type of biological experiment takes in terms of years of planning and development (and not being guaranteed that the results of those efforts will actually get a chance to fly)?
(use the emoticons!)

I can see the concept being funny - butterflies happen to escape and start fluttering around the ISS, perching on handholds and laptops.  :)


I'm trying to be funny (I was referring to all of them pellets surrounding the caterpillars). Sorry 'bout that :D