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Title: NASA reviews SRB upgrades at STS-125 FRR - Outlines STS-119 event
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/04/2009 11:38 pm
Another excellent article from Chris Gebhardt
via the FRR presentations.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2009/05/nasa-srb-upgrades-sts-125-frr-outlines-119-event/
Title: Re: NASA reviews SRB upgrades at STS-125 FRR - Outlines STS-119 event
Post by: Edward Carlson on 05/05/2009 12:58 am
Another really interesting article! Shuttle heaven here.
Title: Re: NASA reviews SRB upgrades at STS-125 FRR - Outlines STS-119 event
Post by: robertross on 05/05/2009 01:15 am
Chris, you really can write up an article!

Now as to content....

I'm still miffed about this:

“Primary contributor to trace shape variation observed on STS-119, STS-124, and STS-126 is a burn rate variation and location of added mixes in the segments,” notes the presentation."

ATK is using old propellant from previous segment castings and mixing it in with new castings. Yes, it is included near the end of the burn so its affects to the vehicle are minimized, but for a program so risk-adverse, you would think they would be against any such changes, because it does require the flight system to correct. But they cleared it.
Title: Re: NASA reviews SRB upgrades at STS-125 FRR - Outlines STS-119 event
Post by: rdale on 05/05/2009 01:27 am
I still don't get what miffs you about this?
Title: Re: NASA reviews SRB upgrades at STS-125 FRR - Outlines STS-119 event
Post by: robertross on 05/05/2009 01:42 am
I still don't get what miffs you about this?

Eliminate the risk: use new and uniform propellant throughout the entire SRB casting, just like they use to have. It's clear that it has an effect on the shuttle. It may be within the capabilities of the avionics to counter its effects, but that doesn't make it right.

When you make a big deal on TPS damage, ripcord damage on parachutes, FCVs, ...why should this be any different?
Title: Re: NASA reviews SRB upgrades at STS-125 FRR - Outlines STS-119 event
Post by: rdale on 05/05/2009 02:00 am
They did make a big deal, and the conclusion was that they were well within safety limits. They didn't just say "Sounds good, NEXT!" If you look on L2, there are extensive presentations on the topic, explaining why. And that's just the tip of the iceberg...
Title: Re: NASA reviews SRB upgrades at STS-125 FRR - Outlines STS-119 event
Post by: mdo on 05/06/2009 02:00 pm
So the SRBs have been checked and double checked. Good. It made me raise an eyebrow though simply because the SRB manufacturer certainly doesn't need this kind of news while the spotlight is on Ares I and the gap - no matter how irrelevant that issue may be in a single booster configuration.