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Title: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: psloss on 02/12/2006 08:17 pm
OK, finally got 'round to getting a scanner.  Here are three from the set...

Cheers,

Philip Sloss
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: Stowbridge on 02/12/2006 10:12 pm
Great images and rare to see her so young. 1979? Was she at KSC then or still at Palmdale?
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: psloss on 02/12/2006 10:29 pm
This was the Rockwell open house in Palmdale just before she was moved over to Edwards for ferry to KSC.
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: jjnodice on 02/12/2006 11:08 pm
Philip,

WOW!  Fantastic pics.  Comparing those with the ones I posted at Eglin, Columbia lost a LOT of tiles on that trip across country!  Ironic that she did the same thing on her final mission... :(

Does someone know why so many fell off?  Inexperience with them?  What changed in the technique/process to make them stay on better?

Thanks again for sharing them!

Jason
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: norm103 on 02/12/2006 11:11 pm
wasent it that the bond they were using wasint working or some thing like that
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: psloss on 02/12/2006 11:11 pm
Yeah, my Dad got some good shots...couple more.  I'll scan a few more that show the other side of the nose when I have time.

Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: SRBseparama on 02/13/2006 12:44 am
Beautiful in her own way. Look how gleaming her OMS and read RCS is!
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: Jim on 02/13/2006 01:50 am
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SRBseparama - 12/2/2006  7:44 PM

Beautiful in her own way. Look how gleaming her OMS and read RCS is!

Those were fake OMS pods, which were just for transport.  It recieved the flight ones at KSC
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: Tahii on 02/13/2006 07:04 am
Thought they looked too shiny - no tiles on them.

Yep, I saw them and thought "oooo, shiny!" too :D
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/13/2006 10:16 am
Well the aft looks like its got its SSME shield on, ready for transport on the SCA - that might account for some of it.

Greats pics.

Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: SimonShuttle on 02/13/2006 11:11 am
Beautiful!
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: Hotol on 02/13/2006 12:16 pm
Also note the lack of thermal blankets on the front, nose/windows area.
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: Heather on 02/13/2006 12:51 pm
It's great to see history like this. What surprises me is this was 27 years ago, before I was born!  :o  Doesn't seem to be that long ago when looking at a Shuttle orbiter.
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: Hotol on 02/13/2006 02:01 pm
Yes, that is a stunning thing to note.
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: STS Tony on 02/13/2006 03:55 pm
Did they have the addesive problem with the TPS before or after she was shipped to KSC? I remember there was a good year or so delay to STS-1 because of it.
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: norm103 on 02/13/2006 05:50 pm
before thats why she when with so many off and why they fell off.
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: Tahii on 02/13/2006 06:25 pm
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Heather - 14/2/2006  12:51 AM

It's great to see history like this. What surprises me is this was 27 years ago, before I was born!  :o  Doesn't seem to be that long ago when looking at a Shuttle orbiter.
Eek! You just reminded me of that too. Thats quite freaky.
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: David AF on 02/13/2006 10:19 pm
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STS Tony - 13/2/2006  10:55 AM

Did they have the addesive problem with the TPS before or after she was shipped to KSC? I remember there was a good year or so delay to STS-1 because of it.

Both I believe.
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: Jamie Young on 02/13/2006 11:26 pm
I'm thinking it might be after she got to KSC, after all, why would they fly her on the back of a SCA when she's got tiles falling off ;) Wouldn't want to be under her flight path when ferried.
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: jjnodice on 02/14/2006 12:13 am
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Jamie Young - 13/2/2006  6:26 PM

I'm thinking it might be after she got to KSC, after all, why would they fly her on the back of a SCA when she's got tiles falling off ;) Wouldn't want to be under her flight path when ferried.

It was during the ferry flight that tiles fell off. The trip across the US took a lot longer than most other flights. It was delayed several times and made several overnight stops in El Paso, San Antonio, and the Florida Panhandle before landing at KSC.

See this thread to see what it looked like the day before she arrived at KSC:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1420&posts=36

You are right about not wanting to be underneath those tiles.  I always wondered where all those tiles went???
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: Jim on 02/14/2006 01:04 am
Tiles are not that heavy or dense.
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: psloss on 02/14/2006 10:07 pm
Here's a last few; couple more of the same and a couple from the other side of the nose...

Philip Sloss
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: Jamie Young on 02/15/2006 12:04 am
Looking at her front, anyone would think she had come to the end of her life!
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: Tahii on 02/15/2006 08:45 am
In that last picture, where the "NASA" logo (of the time) is, is that all covered waiting to be tiled? Its far too smooth to be tiles.
Title: RE: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: Jim on 02/16/2006 11:13 am
No tiles were to be put there, it was covered with FRSI
Title: Re: Columbia Open House, March 1979
Post by: Tony Trout on 12/09/2020 03:07 pm
I've got a question:  I wonder if the workers at Palmdale were as fascinated with the shuttles as we, the public, were when they (Palmdale) were working on them or doing maintenance???  Or was it just "another day at work" for them?