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Flight Day 14 - Re-Entry and Landing. Good luck, Atlantis!
Today's landing opportunities and TV schedule posted below.
Please note, because this is usually as swamped here as it is for launches (and that is VERY BUSY), we'll protect the servers and remove guests for a large section of Wednesday. So, please ensure you have/are logged in. If you are a guest, read this for plently of pre-empting:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=11038&posts=2&start=1
Questions about the events can go into Shuttle Q&A (we'll be creating a mission specific Q&A for 122):
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10600&start=1
Woo hooing can go into the cheerleading thread here:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10978&posts=131&start=1
L2 Members: Select: "Cloud" - "Video" - "Entry" and choose which re-entry video you wish to sync up with from payload bay closure or Deorbit burn through to post landing via handheld camcorder on the flight deck. (We'll screenshot samples from synced re-entry into the live thread.)
Also select "STS-122" "Handbooks" or "Checklists" for STS-122 Flight Data Files and Manuals on all Deorbit and Entry proceedure PDFs.
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Primary landing site today. Weather looking good right now, should be good for the first landing opportunity.
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Secondary landing site, will only be used if KSC weather is bad.
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FD14 TV Schedule:
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Will write up the MMT content from L2 for the entry article.
Some timeline notes (from FD13 MMT, so a little refined):
Central Times:
· Tomorrow is Entry
o Crew wake - 11:45 pm
o IMU align - 2:10 am
o Wx brief - 2:46
o D/O Prep - 3:05
o Go No-Go for PLB DR cl - 4:16
o D/O burn KSC 202 - 7:01
o Landing - 8:07 am
o D/O burn KSC 203 - 8:36 am
o Landing - 9:42 am
o D/O Burn EDW204 - 10:06 am
o Landing 11:12 am
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Ok, gone very L2 heavy with this article so as to share as much as possible from the final MMT notes with everyone, so as to ensure its unique info as per news media coverage:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5362
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Entry Execute Package is now available:
http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/212960main_Entry_PAO_Execute_Package.pdf
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First official weather briefing to Lunney is complete... weather looks good today for both KSC attempts. Edwards has crosswind concerns that increase as the day goes on.
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Quick question, which track is the shuttle on at the moment? Do I look to the nose or the engines on the shuttle graphic?
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Reno - 20/2/2008 10:50 AM
Quick question, which track is the shuttle on at the moment? Do I look to the nose or the engines on the shuttle graphic?
the right hand one (rev 200)
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PAO: "Perfect conditions at the Kennedy Space Center at the moment"
PAO: "No fog is expected at sunrise"
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coming up on a go for plb door closure from MCC-H
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GO for payload bay door closing
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The COMM ATTITUDE is as follows: Roll=251 Pitch=225 Yaw=022
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All hoses retracted normally :)
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All radiator retract flex hoses retracted nominally, no bends or kinks noted on any of the hoses.
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Flight Dynamics Officer considering to switch from runway 33 to runway 15 (KSC) due to atmospheric conditions
Update: PLBDs are closed and latched
Update: GO for loading OPS3
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Update: About an hour away from sunrise at the KSC
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Felix - 20/2/2008 6:45 PM
Last orbit
No, two more.
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dawei - 20/2/2008 11:47 AM
Felix - 20/2/2008 6:45 PM
Last orbit
No, two more.
ah yeah right...thx
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No problem.
Targets on board. Go to load.
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KSC continues to hold conditions that are GO!
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3 hours until landing, conditions virtually ideal.
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At the time of the De-Orbit Burn TIG, Atlantis should be 330NM ahead of the ISS, which she departed on Monday.
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An orbit away from the TIG:
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PAO: These clouds pose no threat right now, they are at 11,000 feet. Weather continues to be a go.
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Have we had the Deorbit PAD yet? I've been away from my desk.
Edit: Ah here we go.
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Atlantis now on her final (planned) orbit in space.
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elmarko - 20/2/2008 6:26 AM
Have we had the Deorbit PAD yet? I've been away from my desk.
PADs are now being read up to the crew.
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Ford Mustang - 20/2/2008 7:31 PM
Atlantis now on her final (planned) orbit in space.
Don't want to be picky .... but lets call it the final planned orbit of this mission. Atlantis still has a few missions ahead of her.
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Runway has changed to KSC RWY 15.
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Reason for KSC 15: Strong tailwind for 33 at HAC init, and a QBar violation
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The clouds to the west of the SLF are at about 11,000 feet and should post no threat to the landing. - Steve Lindsey
No/Go for the first De-Orbit Burn opportunity expected within the next hour.
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Wish they would show the SLF again... Light is finally at the cape. ;)
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PAO, please mention my name if you watch this thread!
;) ;)
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Way to call for the camera change Ford ;)
IMU align underway if I heard correctly.
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60 minutes to the deorbit burn if they take the first opportunity on orbit 202.
About 40 minutes to the decision on go/no go from MCC.
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GO for fluid loading!
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The cloud report that was talked about earlier..
Clouds dissipating when they hit land. Sounds like we're gonna land this baby the first opportunity!
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Crew suit up in the final stages, strapping into the crew seats happening now.
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Everything appears to be falling into place with a first op landing.
53 minutes to the deorbit burn on Orbit 202.
Steve Lindsey reporting good conditions from the STA.
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For those wishing to track Steve:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NASA944
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State Vector onboard. Go to reload targets.
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APU prestart is complete
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Generic Entry Checklist
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/pdf/203839main_ENT_G_H_4.pdf
Crew completed page 3-6
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Go conditions on the weather. Heading up to the deorbit poll.
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Poll is GO. Deorbit burn will be in 30 minutes. Firing will be for 2 minutes 44 seconds.
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Page 3-9: OMS BURN PREP is complete
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GO for DEORBIT BURN
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Page 3-10: VENT DOOR CLOSE is complete
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Steve Lindsey flying an approach
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15 minutes away from the Deorbit burn.
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14 min away from deorbit burn
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Coming up on APU start (APU 2 followed by APU 1).
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7min away from deorbit burn
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Seven minutes to the deorbit burn. Next step will be to arm the OMS Engines for the 2:44 firing.
Atlantis currently crossing over India.
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are they landing 33 or 15?
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John2375 - 20/2/2008 12:53 PM
are they landing 33 or 15?
Read the thread, or even the article on the front of the site. 15.
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APU 2 started. Reporting as a good start/good pressure.
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Propulsion System Officer confirms OMS Engines are at the right pressure.
120 seconds to the deorbit burn.
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Atlantis is in a good config for the burn.
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OMS Engines firing. Into the deorbit burn.
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Good burn, no trim required.
Atlantis on her way home. Have a safe trip.
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Frick sends thanks to the OMS Prop guy for the good engines.
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Go for OPS 303. Software transition for entry interface.
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3-32 and 3-33 as written
SECONDARY ACTUATOR CHECK is not required
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185 degree HAC uploaded for the right overhead turn to align with Runway 15.
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Passing over Florida airspace just over Ft. Meyers, it looks like i will just be missing it.
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Convoy on its way to the SLF
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26 minutes from entry interface.
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I'm on Marco Island, FL just south of Naples. The ground track plot looks over here , not FT Myers as PAO said. Local TV, for what's worth, said it will go over southern Collier Country which is my area. I'll be out on the beach looking.
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Uggg, we're missing calls due to PAOness.
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Scattered clouds - 12,000 FT
Light winds at 4 Knots
Temp - 55 Deg
Humidity - 77%
Current weather.. Chris, I know how you feel.. Kinda wanted to say "Diller, stop!"
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Felix - 20/2/2008 8:08 AM
Convoy on its way to the SLF
It looks like they are redeploying from the south end to north end via SR-3.
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DanME - 20/2/2008 8:10 AM
I'm on Marco Island, FL just south of Naples. The ground track plot looks over here , not FT Myers as PAO said. Local TV, for what's worth, said it will go over southern Collier Country which is my area. I'll be out on the beach looking.
Im very familiar with the whole area, i have family in Marco and Ft. Meyers, ill give them a shout.
:)
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psloss - 20/2/2008 8:14 AM
Felix - 20/2/2008 8:08 AM
Convoy on its way to the SLF
It looks like they are redeploying from the south end to north end via SR-3.
The Convoy was at the Midfield park site, they are just moving to forward and aft deployment positions
There is a convoy ops document on L2
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Chris Bergin - 20/2/2008 8:12 AM
Uggg, we're missing calls due to PAOness.
This is NASA TV tradition for shuttle coverage; they've been doing this post de-orbit burn "throw" to to KSC PAO for as long as I remember. (Just like they throw to the ascent team PAO during the hold at T-9 minutes.)
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trlstyle - 19/2/2008 8:14 AM
DanME - 20/2/2008 8:10 AM
I'm on Marco Island, FL just south of Naples. The ground track plot looks over here , not FT Myers as PAO said. Local TV, for what's worth, said it will go over southern Collier Country which is my area. I'll be out on the beach looking.
Im very familiar with the whole area, i have family in Marco and Ft. Meyers, ill give them a shout.
:)
We have an "Atlantis viewing" thread you know ;) (Don't reply to this - got to keep it clean for updates).
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49 minutes, 30 seconds until touchdown.
Also, thrown back to MCC-H PAO.
17 minutes from Entry Interface.
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17 minutes from entry interface.
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Correction from Rob Navias on the HAC; will be left-overhead, 235 degrees.
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Convoy now turning left, almost at the SLF. 13 minutes until Entry Interface.
APU 1 start soon.
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APU 1 and 3 Start.
13 minutes from entry interface.
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Dex called down the start of APU 1 and 3.
Now up and running.
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View from the top of the VAB (including the Shuttle Landing Facility on left)
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All 3 APU's up and running. 10 minutes from E.I.
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41min away from landing
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Aerosurfaces power up confirmed.
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Everything quiet in MCC-H.
Six minutes until E.I.
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Alt: 91 NM Speed 17477 MPH R 4.0 P 327 Y 2.3
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102 miles altitude.
16,000 mph.
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Convoy is in position at runway 15
Update: 2min away from Entry Interface
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1min away from EI
Update: Atlantis is now re-entering Earth atmosphere
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For anyone in Norway/Sweden, a Norwegian news channel is streaming NASA TV in excellent (1,2mbps) quality, check it out:
http://webtv.tv2.no/webtv/?progId=218172
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Entry Interface. Atlantis about 400,000 feet high right now. Atlantis starting to feel the effects of Earth's atmosphere.
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Atlantis into entry interface. 18 minutes before acquisition from Merritt Island tracking station.
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56 NM 17659 MPH according to NASA tracking page.
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30 minutes until touchdown.
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3min away from the first roll command to the left
Update: 1min away from the first roll
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Rate of descent: 470 feet per second.
57 miles altitude.
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44 NM 17721 MPH
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Atlantis's crew now feeling effects of gravity.
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25 minutes until touchdown.
About 12 minutes until AoS through MILA Tracking.
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bish248,
NASA's tracking are not accurate - the speed of the orbiter should be going down not going up, its impossible to be at 17721 MPH especially through EI
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Roll Reversal to left, about 80 degree roll.
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34 miles altitude. All systems performing nominally.
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marktowler - 20/2/2008 7:43 AM
bish248,
NASA's tracking are not accurate - the speed of the orbiter should be going down not going up, its impossible to be at 17721 MPH especially through EI
I see the speed dropping now but I agree its odd Ill discontinue posting this.
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20min away from landing
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MET Touchdown time: 18:21:40
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EirikV - 20/2/2008 2:35 PM
For anyone in Norway/Sweden, a Norwegian news channel is streaming NASA TV in excellent (1,2mbps) quality, check it out:
http://webtv.tv2.no/webtv/?progId=218172
Really good quality ! Thank you.
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Descent rate 95 feet per second.
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marktowler - 20/2/2008 1:43 PM
bish248,
NASA's tracking are not accurate - the speed of the orbiter should be going down not going up, its impossible to be at 17721 MPH especially through EI
The PAO often confuses MPH and FPS. They meant FPS in this case.
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Coming up to the next roll reversal left to right. Everything on the orbiter performing without issue.
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2mins away from the first roll reversal (to the right)
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Atlantis now crossing the coast of Central America.
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marktowler - 20/2/2008 8:43 AM
bish248,
NASA's tracking are not accurate - the speed of the orbiter should be going down not going up, its impossible to be at 17721 MPH especially through EI
Not necessarily true. It is going in a lower orbit which will have a higher velocity. It won't slow until drag slows it down
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900 miles to touchdown.
38 miles altitiude.
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15min away from touchdown
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Left to right roll reversal.
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First roll reversal
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Atlantis and her crew now passing to the west of Cuba.
13 minutes to touchdown. 600 miles from KSC. 33 miles in altitude.
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Range 600 miles
33 miles altitude.
Mach 12
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Take TACANS.
10 minutes to touchdown.
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Sorry for not reading the thread, I'm at work and have been away from my desk.
I thought we weren't working with TACANs anymore. Have I missed something?
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First live shots of Atlantis!!!!!
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Atlantis told to take air data.
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Atlantis taking AIR DATA.
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Atlantis now in the HAC.
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On energy approaching the HAC.
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On energy approaching the HAC.
Nominal chute deploy.
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Atlantis has now announced her arrival. SONIC BOOMS.
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Twin sonic booms :)
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Runway in site.
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Wonderful ride through the clouds to see the runway in sight.
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Atlantis aligned with 15. Preflare next.
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Into the pre-flare.
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Perfect landing. Into the rollout.
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TOUCHDOWN OF STS-122. CONGRATULATIONS ON A SUCCESSFUL MISSION!!!!
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Landing was smooth as silk.
Atlantis rolling out on runway 15. 5.3MILLION MILE MISSION.
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Great landing
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WHEEL STOP.
Chris, get some sleep. ;)
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Wonderful coverage by Sky News, with a dual screen from 10 minutes out, with Dan Tani's Irish relatives in Cork watching the landing. Really heartwarming.
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You can actually here the APU exhaust I beleive...it's the kind of puffing sound.
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That looked like a greaser!
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Any pics ?
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Landing wasn't viewable from KSC industrial area
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kneecaps - 20/2/2008 9:09 AM
You can actually here the APU exhaust I beleive...it's the kind of puffing sound.
It is
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Thanks for the coverage guys!
Real nice "boom-boom" here at the Cape, but couldn't see her because of the clouds :(
Appeared to be a picture-perfect landing though.
And now begins the process to get her ready for the HST mission. Go Atlantis!
Ross.
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Nice take on CNN, Miles O'Brian showing footage from John Glenn doing the first orbital flight of the Mercury Program 46 years ago today.
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thomasafb - 20/2/2008 9:13 AM
Nice take on CNN, Miles O'Brian showing footage from John Glenn doing the first orbital flight of the Mercury Program 46 years ago today.
I thought so too. In fact I found the coverage on all the news channels quite positive for a change. I actually switched from NASA TV to CNN for a minute or so.
Poor guys didn't have anything to sensationalize on this mission though. :)
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i heard the booms!! <3 welcome home, boys
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GO for extended power up
Update: GO for APU/HYD shutdown
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GO for VENT DOOR PURGE POSITIONING
Update: APU shutdown is complete
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Welcome home Atlantis!!! :) ...Oh and I have one question. Are those pictures screenshots or are they from a live video feed from some website?
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From the NASA.gov Web site's public video feed.
Lisa
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Were there extra (as in more than usually) checks for hazardous vapours? And if so, was it because of the vernier heater problems?
Sorry, but I don't have sound on the computer where I'm watching NASA TV... ;)
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"Hot mic on board"
Heh. Wish they'd leave *that* on. :-D
Lisa
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Video STS-122 - ATLANTIS LANDING
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3373&Itemid=2
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CNNI didn't talk over the landing
you could hear the birds tweating just before "something loud" came over head,
also german channel N-TV showed the landing from about 15 mins out
good coverage for a change :-)
JJ..
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Replays
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'Middeck folks' have left the vehicle
Update: Crew has egressed. ASP is taking over the vehicle
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I reckon that was one of the best landings ever. Just like your regular 737.
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Yes, I couldn't believe how smooth it was.
Probably smoother than a 737!
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Nakun - 20/2/2008 9:30 AM
Welcome home Atlantis!!! :) ...Oh and I have one question. Are those pictures screenshots or are they from a live video feed from some website?
Try this link for NASA-TV:
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
Congratulations to the crew of STS-122, Atlantis, MCC-H, ISS and all the supporting centers for a wonderful, successful mission to start 2008! STS-122 was well worth the wait :)
Thank you to everyone on this site here at NSF for your excellent coverage during this flight, it was very much appreciated by all, see you all for the coverage of STS-123 in about 3 weeks time.
Richard
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Nice shot.
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Andrewwski - 20/2/2008 9:53 AM
Yes, I couldn't believe how smooth it was.
Probably smoother than a 737!
The descent rate at touchdown looked low, but this is all subjective -- "today's landing" usually seems to look the best. The landing conditions were very good -- the last forecast (winds out of 330, 4 knots peak 6) had essentially no crosswinds and a very light headwind, which is in contrast to STS-118, which had some crosswind, and STS-120, which had a headwind approaching the upper limit.
NTV now replaying the wheels stop audio that they missed live.
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is there any news on the oms pod tps ?
JJ..
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psloss - 20/2/2008 9:04 AM
NTV now replaying the wheels stop audio that they missed live.
"Welcome home Atlantis, welcome home Dan, and congrats on delivering Columbus to its new world," said capcom Jim Dutton at confirmation of wheels stop.
"It's been a great mission. We're extremely happy to be home. Such a beautiful day in Florida. Can't wait to see our families who were hopefully all at the stands here watching," replied STS-122 commander Steve Frick from his seat aboard Atlantis' flight deck.
"We appreciate all the great help and support from the folks here at Kennedy and all over NASA, especially at Johnson Space Center Mission Control, for keeping us safe while we were airborne and bringing us safely home," Frick concluded.
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MCC Houston has now fully turned over responsibility for Atlantis to the good folks at KSC.
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JJ.. - 20/2/2008 3:13 PM
is there any news on the ohms pod tps ?
JJ..
I think your CAPS lock is broken! ;)
Won't be any real news on the OMS Pod blanket until she's back in the OPF.
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Is anyone surprised that Atlantis is being deemed the cleanist vehicle. Looking at the last chart the numbers for STS-117 and STS-122 seemed the worst.
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Medical evacuation helicopters that were on standby are now being released.
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violin1238 - 20/2/2008 10:25 AM
Is anyone surprised that Atlantis is being deemed the cleanist vehicle. Looking at the last chart the numbers for STS-117 and STS-122 seemed the worst.
What chart are you referring to?
I'm not surprised because these public distinctions between the performance of an orbiter and its sub-systems are generally subjective.
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violin1238 - 20/2/2008 3:25 PM
Is anyone surprised that Atlantis is being deemed the cleanist vehicle. Looking at the last chart the numbers for STS-117 and STS-122 seemed the worst.
Minor shading on the TPS sometimes even gains a ROI. There wasn't any gouges (Endeavour) or the usual splattering of damage around the ET Doors (a number of previous flights) and I did write - next to that chart in the article:
"The results from Flight Day 12's Late Inspections actually showed the highest number of Regions Of Interest (ROIs) since the use of the Orbiter Boom Sensor System (OBSS) - for Late Inspections - began with STS-121.
However, the vehicle is still being classed as the cleanest since RTF. The higher number is likely indicative of improved techniques used to find ROIs in the first place."
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Thats what I get for studying. I should have just assumed I would fail and watched the landing. Look what I get for being a good student :frown:
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Second image: Bill Gerstenmaier and LeRoy Cain
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Frick: "Atlantis is a great ship"
Second picture: Crew is leaving in the Astrovan
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Post Landing Press Briefing is now NET 11:30 am EST
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Video STS-122 - Crew after landing at Kennedy Space Center
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3375&Itemid=2
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For this mornings wake-up music, have to say I liked the Life of Brian version better. Then again, it was the original.
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Welcome home Atlantis! I woke up at 7:15 CST to watch de-orbit on the web feed but fell back asleep. My dad called me at 8:03, four minutes before touchdown so I caught it on Fox News. :) Not sure of her name, but one of the anchors on FN said that the mission encountered some real trouble, stating that one of the astronauts had become 'incredibly ill' and wasn't able to participate in any of the three spacewalks. Oops! ;) Anyway, congrats on a job well done to all involved with this flight! Welcome home Atlantis!!
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Gerst: "It was a great, great, great mission"
Gerst: "He [Dan Tani] is doing great"
Gerst: Slip of STS-123 wont impact the ATV launch
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Interesting comments from Gerstenmaier on the ISS ORUs...
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Gerstenmaier also publicly noted the slip of the ISS-1J/STS-124 target date to 25 May that was previously posted in the forums here.
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psloss - 20/2/2008 11:42 AM
Interesting comments from Gerstenmaier on the ISS ORUs...
And consider that against recent observations in this forum that we will be losing all this heavy "downmass" capability when Shuttle retires.
Edit: and Jay Barbree raised exactly this issue just now. Gerst confirmed that Soyuz has only a 50-70 kg return capability. Looking into options, including commercial cargo possibilities. "Good chance that we'll figure it out".
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What did Gerst say about the ORUs? (unable to watch the briefing)
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psloss - 20/2/2008 5:42 PM
Interesting comments from Gerstenmaier on the ISS ORUs...
Could you please be a little more specific. Thanks.
Analyst
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Guinness_Harp - 19/2/2008 12:00 PM
What did Gerst say about the ORUs? (unable to watch the briefing)
Just to note, John44 will have the briefing up as a download soon. So you will get to see it eventually.
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Analyst - 20/2/2008 12:40 PM
psloss - 20/2/2008 5:42 PM
Interesting comments from Gerstenmaier on the ISS ORUs...
Could you please be a little more specific. Thanks.
Sorry, don't want to tantalize; it wasn't earth-shattering. The most interesting thing to me was about the first CMG that failed, which he said was so badly damaged that it was difficult to determine a failure mode; I hadn't heard that before, though it's probably been public for a while.
There were some words about the change in philosophy as shuttle logistics are phased out, but don't have time to go back and watch right now. I'm not sure there was anything said that would be news to you, though...
..hopefully as James said the clip will be up on John44's site soon.
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Right now I'm watching the mission highlights on NASA TV. Some minutes ago during the highlights, I saw a video that looks like a ISS tour from end to end (the video ends when the camera is pointed towards Earth through a window in one of the russian modules - beautiful sight of the planet and the new Progress 27 docked at Pirs).
Anyone recorded that portion of the highlights ?
PS: Sorry for my English.
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Thanks, psloss.
Analyst
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Analyst - 20/2/2008 12:40 PM
psloss - 20/2/2008 5:42 PM
Interesting comments from Gerstenmaier on the ISS ORUs...
Could you please be a little more specific. Thanks.
Analyst
The large ORUs (like the NTA replaced on this flight) will have new fittings put on them to allow on-orbit refillings after the shuttle will be retired. The new NTA that was installed in P1 on this flight has the new fittings to allow refilling to occur in space. After the shuttle is retired, there will be no way to return these large ORUs to the ground. The old NTA that was returned to earth on Atlantis will be refit and refilled and flown back up to ISS in the future on the shuttle on one of the upcoming UF flights.
Richard
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ksc_houston - 20/2/2008 9:55 AM
Right now I'm watching the mission highlights on NASA TV. Some minutes ago during the highlights, I saw a video that looks like a ISS tour from end to end (the video ends when the camera is pointed towards Earth through a window in one of the russian modules - beautiful sight of the planet and the new Progress 27 docked at Pirs).
Anyone recorded that portion of the highlights ?
PS: Sorry for my English.
Hi ksc_houston, search this page for "tour", I think that is the one. I enjoyed this video but too much overtalk from the PAO.
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=1&id=1&Itemid=2
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Wow, they're not messing around. :) Atlantis is already off the runway.
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Yess here she is.
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Will there be a crew news conference, and if so, when?
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Making the turn to OPF 1
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kimmern123 - 20/2/2008 1:21 PM
Will there be a crew news conference, and if so, when?
If you ever have a NASA TV schedule question, best bet is to check the NASA TV schedule first... http://www.nasa.gov/ntv
NET 1:30 p.m. - STS-122 Crew News Conference (this event may be postponed or cancelled) - KSC (All Channels)
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Almost there.
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LOL, shuttle's entourage cracks me up. It also gives me a clear idea of shuttles size. What an AMAZING piece of hardware!
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rdale - 20/2/2008 7:30 PM
kimmern123 - 20/2/2008 1:21 PM
Will there be a crew news conference, and if so, when?
If you ever have a NASA TV schedule question, best bet is to check the NASA TV schedule first... http://www.nasa.gov/ntv
NET 1:30 p.m. - STS-122 Crew News Conference (this event may be postponed or cancelled) - KSC (All Channels)
Thanks a lot!
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clay247 - 20/2/2008 7:32 PM
LOL, shuttle's entourage cracks me up. It also gives me a clear idea of shuttles size. What an AMAZING piece of hardware!
It sure is Clay.
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And going in. We will see her again in August for the STS-125 Hubble mission...
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rdale - 20/2/2008 12:30 PM
NET 1:30 p.m. - STS-122 Crew News Conference (this event may be postponed or cancelled) - KSC (All Channels)
The crew news conference will begin between 1:45 and 2:00 p.m. EST, according to PAO at KSC.
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Another view:
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Thats not a good sign. Buzzards flying over Atlantis.
On a different note, what can we look forward to happening to Atlantis over the next few weeks as she is in the OPF?
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Standing by for the crew press conference.
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Davejfb - 20/2/2008 12:33 PM
clay247 - 20/2/2008 7:32 PM
LOL, shuttle's entourage cracks me up. It also gives me a clear idea of shuttles size. What an AMAZING piece of hardware!
It sure is Clay.
Nice to see some techs applauding her back into the barn.
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martin_nv - 20/2/2008 7:41 PM
Another view:
mmmm a mutch better view. What are they doing now? I see something blue at Atlantis nose and i can see what it is.
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martin_nv - 20/2/2008 1:41 PM
Another view:
What are the 2 large booms coming from Atlantis. electrical power supply?
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SpikeSpiegel - 20/2/2008 1:44 PM
martin_nv - 20/2/2008 1:41 PM
Another view:
What are the 2 large booms coming from Atlantis. electrical power supply?
They are cooling and purge vehicles. A better place to ask this would be in the shuttle Q & A thread: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10600&posts=655&start=1
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SpikeSpiegel - 20/2/2008 12:42 PM
Thats not a good sign. Buzzards flying over Atlantis.
On a different note, what can we look forward to happening to Atlantis over the next few weeks as she is in the OPF?
You sound like you'd love L2. Its all charted out and updated daily in there.
A quick list.
PLBD strongbacks installed for PLBD opening.
MPS/SSME post-flight.
WCS removal.
SCAPE ops for hyper de-servicing and APU catch bottle drains.
Lots of inspections.
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Press conference started.
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Frick: "A tremendous experience." "Thrilled to see Columbus installed [during flyaround]."
Poindexter thanks KSC folks for a great vehicle.
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Melvin says this is one of the best teams he's ever worked on.
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I wonder how many questions Hans will be asked about his illness. Wagers anyone?
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Schlegel - '...has been a tremendous mission'
He says it's the beginning of the European spaceflight era.
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Great statement from Love. Basically said he was proud to be part of the team that added a dedicated science lab to station. Uh oh, here comes Dunn :O
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Frick - 'He looked better than I did!' (about Tani getting off the vehicle before him)
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Good question from the CBS reporter. Asked the rookies about their re-entry experience. 'It was a wonderful experience' - Poindexter
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First question to Hans is not about his illness! Who'da thunk it?
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Schlegel stating that one of ISS's roles is to be a model for international cooperation. Excellent statement!
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nose moving in now.
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Briefing ended. Do you think maybe they told the press not to ask about Hans's illness beforehand?
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Would that have mattered?
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clay247 - 20/2/2008 1:32 PM
LOL, shuttle's entourage cracks me up. It also gives me a clear idea of shuttles size. What an AMAZING piece of hardware!
The air conditioning vehicle reminds me of something out of Dr Seuss. And the Convoy Command Vehicle reminds me of the one out of the movie "Stripes". 'one heavily armed recreational vehicle'
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rdale - 20/2/2008 2:47 PM
Would that have mattered?
Probably not. I was just surprised that after the first half of the mission was dominated by "sick astronaut" stories, no one asked him about it at the crew press conference. Ah well. A great job on STS-122 all around, sick crewmember or not.
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I'm waiting for Irene and Mark to write their recaps on how the mission objectives were not reached because of the illness.
Cue crickets...
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Congratulations on a successful first mission of 2008, Atlantis. Good luck on the outfitting for the HST!
Images now posted in the KSC Hot Pics gallery of landing, and crew walk around of the vehicle.
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
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Is it just me, or does this string of near perfect missions reinforce the impression that the Shuttle is just in its prime and should not be retired?
Lets double the NASA budget for 7 years and build the replacement while the shuttle is still flying.
Simplistic view I know.
Paul
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Paul Adams - 20/2/2008 3:23 PM
Is it just me, or does this string of near perfect missions reinforce the impression that the Shuttle is just in its prime and should not be retired?
Lets double NASA budget for 7 years and build the replacement while the shuttle is still flying.
Simplistic view I know.
Paul
Do you how much it cost to produce the string? and it is past is prime. The replacement is Orion.
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Never going to get me to agree with you on that Jim, who say's it wont take Orion 100 plus flights to get all of the bugs out.
As for the cost, either you want to be the world leader in spaceflight, or you dont. USA is loseing its lead as it is. I would say, right now, there is only a 50% chance that A5 will get built. If that happens, move to the back of the line.
Paul
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Paul Adams - 20/2/2008 3:30 PM
Never going to get me to agree with you on that Jim, who say's it wont take Orion 100 plus flights to get all of the bugs out.
It will be a simpler craft and easier to fly. Apollo and Gemini worked them out quickly.
Plain and simple, the shuttle and its architecture is a pig. It uses up more resources than is required to do the job.
"world leader in spaceflight" is not defined by spacecraft with wings or the size of the booster,. It is defined by what you do once on orbit.
An EELV architecture* that performs a lunar landing beats delivering a logistics module to the ISS. An Ariane delivering JSWT to orbit beats further HST servicing missions.
The shuttle does not equate to "world leader in spaceflight". It, in fact, is the reason for the USA slipping in the lead.
Shuttle hugging is a misplaced loyalty. Other than down mass (which is in work), the shuttle doesn't provide anything special. It only provide services to a shuttle centric architecture. The US can do better on any other architecture not based on the shuttle. The shuttle paradigm is not needed to advance the US.
* just an example, not a debating point with direct
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Guys, that's certainly a different thread and not for this one.
Chris will be back later (worked over 24 hours straight) to set up a new STS-125 Processing thread, so let's keep this on post landing specifics.
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O.K. folks:
This is my experience of about 3 hours ago
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Flightstar - 20/2/2008 12:51 PM
SpikeSpiegel - 20/2/2008 12:42 PM
Thats not a good sign. Buzzards flying over Atlantis.
On a different note, what can we look forward to happening to Atlantis over the next few weeks as she is in the OPF?
You sound like you'd love L2. Its all charted out and updated daily in there.
A quick list.
PLBD strongbacks installed for PLBD opening.
MPS/SSME post-flight.
WCS removal.
SCAPE ops for hyper de-servicing and APU catch bottle drains.
Lots of inspections.
To add to Flight's list. Atlantis will have her docking mech removed for the airlock in prep for Hubble. She'll get it back, with SSPTS, for the two flights that will follow for her after 125.
And thanks for the coverage. Really was a great read back. Easily hands down the best space flight site on both news and the membership of its forum.
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Any word on how the area of the insulation flap performed on re-entry?
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Thanks Dave.
Also, will start the new 125 Procesing thread in the morning.
ApolloLee - 20/2/2008 10:29 PM
Any word on how the area of the insulation flap performed on re-entry?
No issues. Did not come loose etc. Right call not to EVA repair.
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Paul Adams - 20/2/2008 3:23 PM
Is it just me, or does this string of near perfect missions reinforce the impression that the Shuttle is just in its prime and should not be retired?
(Ducking moderator lightning bolts.)
I think it reinforces the impression that the people that prepare/plan/execute/support the missions are good at what they do, but they've demonstrated their abilities across the life of the program. (Really across all the HSF programs.)
Shuttle operations might be hitting a stride, so to speak, but I don't think that changes the inherent characteristics of the vehicles or the inherent risk in flying them.
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During the Post-landing Press Conference, did Mike say that he was going to work at constellation and that Doug Lyons would be doing the remaining shuttle missions as launch director?
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Chris Bergin - 20/2/2008 2:47 PM
No issues. Did not come loose etc. Right call not to EVA repair.
Figured as such..... No pins should make life easier in processing... Thanks!
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Justin Wheat - 20/2/2008 6:18 PM
During the Post-landing Press Conference, did Mike say that he was going to work at constellation and that Doug Lyons would be doing the remaining shuttle missions as launch director?
No, he said that he's working about 40% of the time on Constellation. He said that Ed Mango will be working the next few launches as assistant launch director to get experience prior to Ares I-X and then he and Doug Lyons would work the rest of the shuttle launches.
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I liked this one from the NASA Kennedy Media Gallery. (Attached only a thumbnail of it.)
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
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Do you think Mike will do constellation?
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psloss - 20/2/2008 6:39 PM
I liked this one from the NASA Kennedy Media Gallery. (Attached only a thumbnail of it.)
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
:cool: That ladies and gentlemen is an excellent image of American engineering.
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That is a superb photo indeed!
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Pictures of Dan Tani after landing
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
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psloss - 20/2/2008 4:39 PM
I liked this one from the NASA Kennedy Media Gallery. (Attached only a thumbnail of it.)
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
You know, that image was taken from very, very close to the runway. I'm guessing it was a remote camera, and that it's shown in this image:
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=35078
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Lee Jay - 20/2/2008 8:59 PM
psloss - 20/2/2008 4:39 PM
I liked this one from the NASA Kennedy Media Gallery. (Attached only a thumbnail of it.)
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
You know, that image was taken from very, very close to the runway. I'm guessing it was a remote camera, and that it's shown in this image:
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=35078
Whatever the case, the image is well-exposed, well timed, and has a nice composition. ;)
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I was just wondering who got to stand *that close* to the runway, and why I didn't see them on the live video! Then I realized NASA would not likely let anyone be 3 feet from the runway with an orbiter landing, and realized it had to be a remote.
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Well, before this becomes irrelevant, congratulations Atlantis on another successful mission, and the same to the crew. This mission has been a real fun one to cover (even for the limited time I did, due to the weird sleep schedule). Had fun making the archives better, each mission is more fun, and each with its own special touch. For all who have said good words to me, I really do appreciate it. I honestly do. I do this for NASASpaceFlight, as it does so much for us, whether it's L2 or the free section.
Seeing as how STS-123 will be launching in the very early morning (2 AM or so), I'll be on limited coverage with that one, too, weird schedule. I'll definitely be here for Launch and Landing, and other key events depending on times.
I send out a thank you to all sources, Chris, Skinny, everyone who helps run the site, and everyone who posts updates. NASASpaceFlight will only grow in the coming years, and I'm hoping we can all make this as good as it can be. :)
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psloss - 20/2/2008 6:32 PM
No, he said that he's working about 40% of the time on Constellation. He said that Ed Mango will be working the next few launches as assistant launch director to get experience prior to Ares I-X and then he and Doug Lyons would work the rest of the shuttle launches.
Mike did state that Ed Mango will be the launch director for the Hubble Mission.
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Too bad this photo wasn't taken a little further down the runway when pad 39A would have been in the background instead of 39B great photo anyway
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Ford Mustang - 21/2/2008 3:59 PM
Seeing as how STS-123 will be launching in the very early morning (2 AM or so),
Ah great, a launch at a civilised hour, looking forward to that. :)
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Ok, here's the plan folks.
The PRCB are meeting at the moment on the post flight IFA review (which is super fast turnaround!) Likely will be a whole bunch of presentations, which we'll get for L2.
I'll do an article on highlights, then we'll close off 122 via that.
In the meantime, I'm writing up an all-singing/all dancing processing preview for STS-125, which will kick off the processing thread for that mission. That'll be in a few hours.
Shuttle Surge in full effect - fighting the insurgency of launch delays. :cool:
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hobson911 - 20/2/2008 11:23 PM
Too bad this photo wasn't taken a little further down the runway when pad 39A would have been in the background instead of 39B great photo anyway
Though I spy on Pad B what looks like one of the Ares lightning towers nearly finishes, and it's huge! Dwarfs the shuttle pad.
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hobson911 - 21/2/2008 2:23 AM
Too bad this photo wasn't taken a little further down the runway when pad 39A would have been in the background instead of 39B great photo anyway
Think of it this way, she was photographed with the MLP that held her for months.
And to the post right above, I don't think that's one of the lightening towers.
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Trekkie07 - 21/2/2008 8:31 AM
And to the post right above, I don't think that's one of the lightening towers.
Might be right... Might just be that radio tower near the runway.....
But I like your silver lining comment about the MLP...
Would Jim and the other KSCers care to chime in?
(Expect a terse "yes" or "no" from Jim) :bleh:
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ApolloLee - 21/2/2008 12:10 PM
Might be right... Might just be that radio tower near the runway.....
right
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Jim - 21/2/2008 12:54 PM
ApolloLee - 21/2/2008 12:10 PM
Might be right... Might just be that radio tower near the runway.....
right
:laugh: