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Title: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps
Post by: jmjawors on 02/19/2008 05:40 am

(copied from Chris' FD 12 post)

Flight Day 13 coverage of STS-122.

First post to be updated as and when needed.

Timing of different events today can be found here

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Crew wakeup was almost an hour ago.  Sorry I missed the wake up music and opening words... 

Title: RE: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13 - De-orbit Prep
Post by: collectSPACE on 02/19/2008 05:58 am
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jmjawors - 19/2/2008  12:40 AM

Sorry I missed the wake up music and opening words...
Wake-up music was Monty Pyton's ('Spamalot' version of) "Always Look at the Bright Side of Life" for Steve Frick by his wife.

Shortly thereafter, capcom Shannon Lucid provided the 'big picture' regarding the aft VRCS:

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The investigations that we had overnight indicate that a hybrid driver may have failed resulting in the loss of the heater power to the aft vernier thrusters. So the remainder of the mission will be conducted loss of verns. The propellant margin support all the activities and all planned deorbit opportunities through end of mission plus two. Now, there is a potential to perform some unplanned maneuvers and attitude hold in an effort to maintain the aft vernier jets above their non-operating limits.
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Okay Shannon, thanks a lot for those words. We kind of figured we would be down verns from now on but it is good to hear we don't have any power or prop concerns. I'm glad we have enough prop to fly those attitudes to keep the jets from being a turnaround concern.
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/19/2008 11:33 am
MCC's gone to the blue entry screen (a while ago, but no one's done a screenshot):
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/19/2008 11:37 am
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/19/2008 12:22 pm
To round up:

Cabin stow activities.
Flight Control Surfaces (FCS) checkout - complete and nominal.
Reaction Control System hot-fire - complete and nominal
Launch/entry suit checkout - to come.
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/19/2008 12:23 pm
Weather looking very good for the first opportunity at KSC. Winds slightly up (but within limits) for opportunity two at KSC.
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Post by: rdale on 02/19/2008 12:28 pm
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Chris Bergin - 19/2/2008  8:23 AM

Weather looking very good for the first opportunity at KSC.

I can't find any reason for any concern tomorrow -- so not seeing the need for a separate wx thread...
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/19/2008 12:29 pm
Concur. We can keep it all in one place. Might even make this a one stop shop all the way through to landing.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13 - De-orbit Prep
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/19/2008 12:36 pm
PAO Event in five minutes.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/19/2008 12:43 pm
ABC News, CNN and some Virginia station...
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/19/2008 12:46 pm
Fluffy questions from ABC.

"It's a great vehicle to fly in space." Frick on Atlantis.
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/19/2008 12:50 pm
CNN on.

Frick confirms they are going to go for landing on Wednesday so they can kill USA 193 on Thursday.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/19/2008 12:51 pm
Whoever this CNN lady is, she's good!

Atlantis' concern is going through the debris field. ISS is too high for a concern.

Plus on MMOD for ISS, is always a big concern (MMOD in general).
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: ETEE on 02/19/2008 01:11 pm
I have a question about yesterday's MM briefing when it was said that there was not enough oxygen left on Atlantis to support a Friday landing.  Only 8 hours available after Thursday.  Does this mean that too much oxygen was transferred to ISS so that Atlantis cannot support 2 weather waive off days?  Seems against flight rules to me.  Was the Friday no-landing decision done deliberately or have they unwittingly transferred too much oxygen?
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Post by: johng on 02/19/2008 01:19 pm
Are the close in ground tracks available somewhere? The nasa/shuttle page doesn't show them yet.  Preferred runway??
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Post by: bish48 on 02/19/2008 01:26 pm
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johng - 19/2/2008  8:19 AM


Are the close in ground tracks available somewhere? The nasa/shuttle page doesn't show them yet.  Preferred runway??

NTV earlier said that 33 was the preffered runway at KSC.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/19/2008 01:40 pm
Playbacks of ISS robotics:
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Post by: daj24 on 02/19/2008 01:45 pm
Are the ISS and Shuttle still only about 40 NM apart?  I uploaded todays TLE for Orbitron and it appears that they are still very close.
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Post by: rdale on 02/19/2008 01:46 pm
Mission Status Briefing is at 12:30pm EST
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Post by: tdrb6115 on 02/19/2008 01:49 pm
Ground tracks are already there: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts122/news/landing.html
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Post by: Gary on 02/19/2008 02:32 pm
FD 13 Execute Package -> http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/212958main_FD13_ex_pkg.pdf
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Post by: Gary on 02/19/2008 02:39 pm
Reading the execute package re-rentry procedures lists MS1 (Melvin) and MS3 (Schlegel) as not taking any salt tablets. I thought they were almost mandatory for replacing fluids?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: johng on 02/19/2008 02:41 pm
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tdrb6115 - 19/2/2008  9:49 AM

Ground tracks are already there: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts122/news/landing.html

I love it. The shuttle page has a link on the right side of the page for the "landing control center" Seems like a logical place for landing information.  There's no link to ground tracks there. Silly me, I shoulda looked down the link called "news"

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/19/2008 02:59 pm
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Gary - 19/2/2008  3:39 PM

Reading the execute package re-rentry procedures lists MS1 (Melvin) and MS3 (Schlegel) as not taking any salt tablets. I thought they were almost mandatory for replacing fluids?

Interesting. I thought it was mandatory too.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: collectSPACE on 02/19/2008 03:04 pm
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Gary - 19/2/2008  9:39 AM

Reading the execute package re-rentry procedures lists MS1 (Melvin) and MS3 (Schlegel) as not taking any salt tablets. I thought they were almost mandatory for replacing fluids?
Just above the fluid loading chart, is the following (emphasis mine):

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Consume 8 ounces of water or artificially sweetened (A/S) drink with two salt tablets, or 8 ounces of Chicken Consommé every 15 minutes.
Schlegel chose the consummé; as for Melvin, I believe the Orange Ade has the sufficient sodium content similar in fashion to the consommé.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: Launch Fan on 02/19/2008 03:15 pm
Amazingly issue free mission so far. KU stored in two hours did I hear?
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/19/2008 03:16 pm
Nice long shot of the MCC..
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Post by: erioladastra on 02/19/2008 03:20 pm
"I have a question about yesterday's MM briefing when it was said that there was not enough oxygen left on Atlantis to support a Friday landing. Only 8 hours available after Thursday. Does this mean that too much oxygen was transferred to ISS so that Atlantis cannot support 2 weather waive off days? Seems against flight rules to me. Was the Friday no-landing decision done deliberately or have they unwittingly transferred too much oxygen?"

Nothing unwitting was done.  The plan was 13+2.  Any oxygen above that was to be transferred to ISS.  We got about 90 lbs.  Might have been able to squeak out a few more but didn't have the time.  So we have the 13+2 required and then some, not that it helps much.  We will land by Thursday.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/19/2008 03:24 pm
Image from Atlantis payload bay...Cabin stowage activities are continuing.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: ETEE on 02/19/2008 05:08 pm
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erioladastra - 19/2/2008  4:20 PM

"I have a question about yesterday's MM briefing when it was said that there was not enough oxygen left on Atlantis to support a Friday landing. Only 8 hours available after Thursday. Does this mean that too much oxygen was transferred to ISS so that Atlantis cannot support 2 weather waive off days? Seems against flight rules to me. Was the Friday no-landing decision done deliberately or have they unwittingly transferred too much oxygen?"

Nothing unwitting was done.  The plan was 13+2.  Any oxygen above that was to be transferred to ISS.  We got about 90 lbs.  Might have been able to squeak out a few more but didn't have the time.  So we have the 13+2 required and then some, not that it helps much.  We will land by Thursday.

The execute package for today refers to EOM+2 being available for a systems waive off day.  From what we were told about cryo margin, in terms of oxygen, there is not enough for the mission to last until EOM+2.  The exact words were that a Friday landing was not possible.  Which is the correct info?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: jarthur on 02/19/2008 05:11 pm
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ETEE - 19/2/2008  11:08 AM

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erioladastra - 19/2/2008  4:20 PM

"I have a question about yesterday's MM briefing when it was said that there was not enough oxygen left on Atlantis to support a Friday landing. Only 8 hours available after Thursday. Does this mean that too much oxygen was transferred to ISS so that Atlantis cannot support 2 weather waive off days? Seems against flight rules to me. Was the Friday no-landing decision done deliberately or have they unwittingly transferred too much oxygen?"

Nothing unwitting was done.  The plan was 13+2.  Any oxygen above that was to be transferred to ISS.  We got about 90 lbs.  Might have been able to squeak out a few more but didn't have the time.  So we have the 13+2 required and then some, not that it helps much.  We will land by Thursday.

The execute package for today refers to EOM+2 being available for a systems waive off day.  From what we were told about cryo margin, in terms of oxygen, there is not enough for the mission to last until EOM+2.  The exact words were that a Friday landing was not possible.  Which is the correct info?

They indicated today in the MSB that Friday was available, but only as a systems day.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: jmjawors on 02/19/2008 06:46 pm
Go given to stow KU antenna.  Live video just ended.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: kneecaps on 02/19/2008 06:47 pm
Atlantis just given go to stow the KU Band antenna. Since the KU antenna is needed to transmit real time video there will be no more live video.
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Post by: rdale on 02/19/2008 07:01 pm
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ETEE - 19/2/2008  1:08 PM

 From what we were told about cryo margin, in terms of oxygen, there is not enough for the mission to last until EOM+2.  The exact words were that a Friday landing was not possible.  Which is the correct info?

Who told you that and what background info came with it?
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/19/2008 07:03 pm
KU Band Antenna stowage complete.

Good luck tomorrow, Atlantis!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: Lawntonlookirs on 02/19/2008 07:16 pm
Closing out for the day.  Will be back on early in the AM.  Good luck Atlantis on your return.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: rdale on 02/19/2008 08:15 pm
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Lawntonlookirs - 19/2/2008  3:16 PM

Closing out for the day.

Not quite... Sleep time isn't until 4:45pm EST, you must have misinterpreted something.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: Gary on 02/19/2008 08:44 pm
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collectSPACE - 19/2/2008  4:04 PM
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Consume 8 ounces of water or artificially sweetened (A/S) drink with two salt tablets, or 8 ounces of Chicken Consommé every 15 minutes.
Schlegel chose the consummé; as for Melvin, I believe the Orange Ade has the sufficient sodium content similar in fashion to the consommé.

Ohh I see. Thanks very much Robert.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/19/2008 08:50 pm
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rdale - 19/2/2008  4:15 PM

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Lawntonlookirs - 19/2/2008  3:16 PM

Closing out for the day.

Not quite... Sleep time isn't until 4:45pm EST, you must have misinterpreted something.

Probably more of the "I'm leaving and will be back tomorrow" type bit..
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: jacqmans on 02/19/2008 09:29 pm
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Post by: ETEE on 02/19/2008 09:31 pm
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rdale - 19/2/2008  8:01 PM

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ETEE - 19/2/2008  1:08 PM

 From what we were told about cryo margin, in terms of oxygen, there is not enough for the mission to last until EOM+2.  The exact words were that a Friday landing was not possible.  Which is the correct info?

Who told you that and what background info came with it?

This was from a FD 11 or 12 press briefing which also announced how much oxygen had been transferred to the ISS but I am not in a position to trawl through them to get the exact details.  It was said that there was only 8 hours of O2 available past Thursday so a Friday landing would not be possible.  Hopefully someone else will have remembered this.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/19/2008 10:03 pm
Catching some of the good shots from today's FD highlights:
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/19/2008 10:04 pm
"Think we'll land at KSC on the first orbit possible tomorrow.."
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/19/2008 10:10 pm
Questioner: Would you be worried if the Navy shoots the satellite down?

Frick: No, very different orbits.  The satellite orbits much lower than us, the only concern is that we travel through that orbit during deorbit.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/19/2008 10:12 pm
Questioner: Were you able to grieve about your mother in full, Dan?

Dan: It was what it was, I was doing my job, which was working on the ISS.  I don't know if I've grieved or not, once we get on the ground, it might get worse, who knows.. it was what it was, only time will tell.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/19/2008 10:19 pm
PAO: Will be watching television pictures of this during payload bay closure.  This hose will be replaced before the HST mission.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/19/2008 10:20 pm
And finally, the last live shot from orbit:
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/19/2008 10:25 pm
Replay of the MSB:
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/19/2008 10:27 pm
Checkouts went well, and ready to support re-entry.

Consumables CAN SUPPORT to FRIDAY.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/19/2008 10:27 pm
5:20 AM EST for Payload Bay Door closure.

De-Orbit TIG: Around 7:59 AM EST for Orbit 203.
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/19/2008 10:28 pm
"Real optimistic about the first try to KSC"
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Post by: rdale on 02/19/2008 10:28 pm
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ETEE - 19/2/2008  5:31 PM
It was said that there was only 8 hours of O2 available past Thursday so a Friday landing would not be possible.  Hopefully someone else will have remembered this.

I'm guessing they misspoke, as L2 data confirms they have +2 days available.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 13/14 - De-orbit Preps through to Landing
Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/19/2008 10:29 pm
And just in case any storms pop up, they do have chances at Edwards tomorrow:
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/19/2008 10:31 pm
Expecting another omega bend in the radiator hose, crew to record closure, for bend footage.  Crew will also give a verbal call.  Nominal de-orbit procedures.  PROP is okay without the vernier jets, no impact to landing tomorrow.
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Post by: Kel on 02/19/2008 11:40 pm
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Ford Mustang - 19/2/2008  5:20 PM

And finally, the last live shot from orbit:

I never get tired of earth pictures from space...
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Post by: brahmanknight on 02/19/2008 11:52 pm
Me either, Kel
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 02/20/2008 12:05 am
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Kel - 19/2/2008  7:40 PM

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Ford Mustang - 19/2/2008  5:20 PM

And finally, the last live shot from orbit:

I never get tired of earth pictures from space...

Me neither. :cool:

Only 26 days until we see live shots from Endeavour, though.  Not too long of a wait!   ;)