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Flight Day 5 coverage of STS-122.
First post to be updated as and when needed.
Rules: Only relevant updates should go in here.
It's a big day for ESA, hopefully all goes well :)
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Wake up song was "fly like an eagle" by Steve Miller.
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I only caught part of the wake up call because my stream crapped out, but the song was "Fly Like an Eagle". Don't know who was singing (a female, don't know who) but that wasn't the Steve Miller Band.
Edit: Ninja'd. Steve Miller did write it, but that wasn't him singing.
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FD5 Execute Package is now available:
http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/211368main_fd05_exec_pkg.pdf
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3 days 14 hours MET
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ckiki lwai - 11/2/2008 11:46 AM
It's a big day for ESA, hopefully all goes well
Don't worry! Leland will score, not fumble! :)
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A couple of interesting notes in the Execute Package:
-There's some FOD in the Columbus' CBM (nadir/aft-ward) that they may need to remove during the EVA. That's why so many images of it were being taken with the outside cameras yesterday.
-Currently the problems with the upper TPS (the belly is clear) are considered "degraded" and can perform re-entry as is. This condition could change, though.
-They're almost done with the ISS resupply tasks.
-They're bringing down the BMRRM in this flight!
Below are the images of the possible FOD in the CBM and the detailed timelines.
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eeergo - 11/2/2008 12:01 PM
A couple of interesting notes in the Execute Package:
-There's some FOD in the Columbus' CBM (nadir/aft-ward) that they may need to remove during the EVA. That's why so many images of it were being taken with the outside cameras yesterday.
The FOD is on Node 2 starboard CBM.
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Flight director update started
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Love and Walheim in prebreath
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ISS starting DPC
Atlantis working on some windows issues for Photo Download
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ckiki lwai - 11/2/2008 12:11 PM eeergo - 11/2/2008 12:01 PM A couple of interesting notes in the Execute Package: -There's some FOD in the Columbus' CBM (nadir/aft-ward) that they may need to remove during the EVA. That's why so many images of it were being taken with the outside cameras yesterday.
The FOD is on Node 2 starboard CBM.
Yes, that's Columbus'. With the nadir/aft-ward commentary I was referring to the location of the FOD.
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eeergo - 11/2/2008 6:01 AM
-They're bringing down the BMRRM in this flight!
Hooray! That'll enable them to get a look at it, characterise the failure and determine whether it's generic or not, and get a new spare up on orbit pronto. In earlier briefings they've said that they wouldn't send a new spare up until they had this failed unit down and had taken a look at it.
I see from the TV schedule that they will be doing a Ku-band antenna stow before unberthing Columbus (indeed, before the astronauts even leave the airlock), and that it won't get deployed again until Tuesday morning. The antenna is at the near end of the payload bay, far from the Columbus module. Can someone comment on why they need to stow it? Losing all that bandwidth for so long is going to be a big hit for the ground (and, ahem, for us). (hmmm, I guess ISS Ku capability will take care of coverage ...)
I checked the preflight briefings to see if I could find an answer to that one ... the preflight mission briefing by Sally Davis (back in November) has an animation showing the antenna deployed, as does the animation used in the spacewalk briefing by Anna Jarvis. Late change of plan for some reason?
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eeergo - 11/2/2008 1:00 PM
ckiki lwai - 11/2/2008 12:11 PM eeergo - 11/2/2008 12:01 PM A couple of interesting notes in the Execute Package: -There's some FOD in the Columbus' CBM (nadir/aft-ward) that they may need to remove during the EVA. That's why so many images of it were being taken with the outside cameras yesterday.
The FOD is on Node 2 starboard CBM.
Yes, that's Columbus'. With the nadir/aft-ward commentary I was referring to the location of the FOD.
Sorry I read over the apostrophe, of course, Columbus only has 1 CBM :bleh:
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ckiki lwai - 11/2/2008 7:21 AM
eeergo - 11/2/2008 1:00 PM
ckiki lwai - 11/2/2008 12:11 PM eeergo - 11/2/2008 12:01 PM A couple of interesting notes in the Execute Package: -There's some FOD in the Columbus' CBM (nadir/aft-ward) that they may need to remove during the EVA. That's why so many images of it were being taken with the outside cameras yesterday.
The FOD is on Node 2 starboard CBM.
Yes, that's Columbus'. With the nadir/aft-ward commentary I was referring to the location of the FOD.
Sorry I read over the apostrophe, of course, Columbus only has 1 CBM :bleh:
Actually, that's the starboard active CBM on Node 2. There are no petals on the passive CBM on Columbus. eeergo was referring to the location on the CBM ring under petal 2.
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ChrisC - 11/2/2008 7:20 AM
I see from the TV schedule that they will be doing a Ku-band antenna stow before unberthing Columbus (indeed, before the astronauts even leave the airlock), and that it won't get deployed again until Tuesday morning. The antenna is at the near end of the payload bay, far from the Columbus module. Can someone comment on why they need to stow it?
Actually, when Columbus is installed on the starboard CBM on Harmony the KU band antenna on the shuttle will be awfully close! They're stowing it for clearance reasons.
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EVA 1 preparations aboard ISS
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Chandonn - 11/2/2008 1:26 PM
ckiki lwai - 11/2/2008 7:21 AM
eeergo - 11/2/2008 1:00 PM
ckiki lwai - 11/2/2008 12:11 PM eeergo - 11/2/2008 12:01 PM A couple of interesting notes in the Execute Package: -There's some FOD in the Columbus' CBM (nadir/aft-ward) that they may need to remove during the EVA. That's why so many images of it were being taken with the outside cameras yesterday.
The FOD is on Node 2 starboard CBM.
Yes, that's Columbus'. With the nadir/aft-ward commentary I was referring to the location of the FOD.
Sorry I read over the apostrophe, of course, Columbus only has 1 CBM :bleh:
Actually, that's the starboard active CBM on Node 2. There are no petals on the passive CBM on Columbus. eeergo was referring to the location on the CBM ring under petal 2.
Thanks, I understand know, sorry I was a little confused...
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Did anyone catch why they repressed?
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They've re-opened the hatch...
Edit -- going back it was nothing; just an extension of the purge time for Rex, due to a slight pressure drop...they're still in the equipment lock...
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Attaching the Simplified Aid for EVA Rescue (SAFER)
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I got a question; I just saw Stan Love make 'twisting' motions with his hands, as if manipulating some string, but I couldn't make out on my feed what he was doing. Anybody know?
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I think he was adjusting the overglove.
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EVA for OMS Pod Blanket now officially recommened, pending group approval.
I've got another article coming shortly....(thanks much to the guys doign coverage in here to allow me to get on with that, by the way) :)
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and the second SAFER:
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The main task of this EVA is to install Columbus' PDGF and I presume the fixture wasn't installed pre-flight due to clearance issues with the payload bay doors. The question is why this module has a PDGF instead of a FRGF? Which tasks can only be done by the SSRMS based on Columbus' PDGF instead of Harmony's one?
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Hatch closed (upper left corner of the image)
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Crew lock hatch
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PAO: 30mins ahead of schedule
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tesheiner - 11/2/2008 8:21 AM
The main task of this EVA is to install Columbus' PDGF and I presume the fixture wasn't installed pre-flight due to clearance issues with the payload bay doors. The question is why this module has a PDGF instead of a FRGF? Which tasks can only be done by the SSRMS based on Columbus' PDGF instead of Harmony's one?
PDGF are two ways. Not just a base attach point for the SSRM. Columbus needs stay alive power until umbilicals are mated.
Also it might make it easier to switch out Columbus exposed payloads
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Ready for depress.
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Tani, Frick and Whitson in front of the hatch
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6.9 psi
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tesheiner - 11/2/2008 2:21 PM
The main task of this EVA is to install Columbus' PDGF and I presume the fixture wasn't installed pre-flight due to clearance issues with the payload bay doors.
Not the doors, but the OBSS. They decided to take it off pre-launch and attach it to a payload bay sidewall carrier for launch.
This is why the OBSS will have to be left at ISS prior to undocking of STS-123/1J/A. There's not enough clearance in the payload bay for the JEM and OBSS.
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Quest airlock
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Ku-Band antenna of Atlantis has been stowed
Will be redeployed tomorrow morning
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Are there 2 hatches between Quest and the rest of the Station?
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Are there power and fluid umbilicals that have to be attached between Harmony and Columbus? It looks like form the time line that there aren't unless they're internal umbilicals?
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haywoodfloyd - 11/2/2008 8:55 AM
Are there 2 hatches between Quest and the rest of the Station?
3 hatches between vacuum and the rest of the station. one hatch between quest and station. 2 hatches between the crew lock and station
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eeergo: "They're bringing down the BMRRM in this flight! "
I was told off-line after the BMRRM EVA that there is only ONE spare, and
it has now been installed -- so the old one must be repaired and relaunched,
as well as thoroughly checked out to see if additional spares need to be
sent up in a few years.
The unit MIGHT barely be able to pass through the aft SM docking hatch, and
hence ride aboard an ESA supply drone.... The clearance would be VERY close.
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Latest state of play, using some L2 info (so as to be different from other sites):
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5354
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Chris Bergin - 11/2/2008 8:11 AM
EVA for OMS Pod Blanket now officially recommened, pending group approval.
That ought to be quite the trick, since I thought the arm was at its limits with Danny O and the blanket on the front face of the OMS pod.
Wonder if they're considering using the OBSS as an extension again.
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Walheim's Helmet Cam No. is 18
and Love's Cam No. is 16
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Ku-Band antenna of Atlantis has been stowed
Will be redeployed tomorrow morning
Will all downlink data just be re-routed through the ISS now then?
Thanks
Ian
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Stan Love outside the Quest Airlock
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Are there power and fluid umbilicals that have to be attached between Harmony and Columbus? It looks like form the time line that there aren't unless they're internal umbilicals?
I was wondering that too because the timelines show they attach Columbus after the EVA has ended and ingress tomorrow so I guess the power/data cables must be internal?
Thanks
Ian
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Making their way towards the payload bay now, all the tools and equipment appear to have been gathered.
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ichilton - 11/2/2008 3:37 PM
Ku-Band antenna of Atlantis has been stowed
Will be redeployed tomorrow morning
Will all downlink data just be re-routed through the ISS now then?
Thanks
Ian
I think they still have S-band
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About 15min away from an orbital sunrise
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I think they still have S-band
Yeah but that doesn't do video!
Ian
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No need for cleaning the CBM seals.
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Moving the arm to the APFR install position.
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CBM FOD looks like some skuff marks, no action required
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Rex headed to payload bay.
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possibly MMOD hit to the CBM? they never mentioned it till today
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Releasing the APFR from its position in the front section of Harmony, to be attached to the SSRMS for PDGF removal and installation.
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Sunrise:
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Ok, they're in the payload bay now.
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Down under the pallet with SOLAR and EuTEF, looking over to the Russian Section.
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Yes.
Power and data cables connection are internal only.
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Installing the APFR in the arm now.
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Walheim on Columbus. Clear to demate the cables.
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And now installing the protective cap on the disconnected cable connector.
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Man, is Columbus the shiniest module or what? Just look at Rex's reflection!
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Cable secured on the payload bay wall. First task done. Now getting ready to work on the panels to be removed before PDGF installation.
"Yeehaaaa! Looking over the tail here" :)
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Having a bit of a problem with the safety tethers, but plasma gun time has arrived :)
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12 mins away from an orbital sunset
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First bolt released.
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Love ingressing the APFR meanwhile.
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Dan is now about to move Stan towards the PDGF to release it from the PLB wall, before translating it to its final placement.
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Fine-tuning Love to start driving the bolts from the PDGF.
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Good view of the area the PDGF is supposed to be installed on Columbus. Walheim doing the MMOD shields bolt unscrewing.
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Horseshoe bolt unscrewing:
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Slightly behind schedule, but doing everything alright, so no big deal.
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The grapple fixture has been removed, maneuvering now the arm to get ready to install it.
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Actually, Stan has released it now, now moving to the low-hovering position over Columbus.
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Do they have to do this PDGF install on Kibo too?
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Rex almost finished with the panels, so almost ready to install the PDGF.
Not sure about Kibo, I'd say that this procedure is unique to Columbus, but just guessing.
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All bolts out.
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eeergo - 11/2/2008 11:17 AM
Rex almost finished with the panels, so almost ready to install the PDGF.
Not sure about Kibo, I'd say that this procedure is unique to Columbus, but just guessing.
They had to do the same for Node 2
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I would assume givin the size of the kibo PM module that it would be the same situation.. dispite the fact that the OBSS is not going to be in the payload bay. im actually excitecd to see just how much of the PLB the kibo takes up givin the size
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eeergo - 11/2/2008 5:17 PM
Rex almost finished with the panels, so almost ready to install the PDGF.
Not sure about Kibo, I'd say that this procedure is unique to Columbus, but just guessing.
As far as I know, they won't do this for the JEM on STS-124/1J. This is why the OBSS is being left on station prior to undocking of STS-123/1J/A.
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Hi,
So why didn't they leave it behind last time and save the trouble for this mission?
Ian
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PaulyFirmbiz - 11/2/2008 5:18 PM
im actually excitecd to see just how much of the PLB the kibo takes up givin the size
It's about the same size as Destiny.
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ichilton - 11/2/2008 5:21 PM Hi, So why didn't they leave it behind last time and save the trouble for this mission? Ian
It'd be double trouble: getting it out of Discovery (assuming there was weight margin for it), install it somewhere on the Station. Now come back, release it from wherever it was left, and do exactly the same they're doing now. And with the disadvantage of leaving it exposed to space weathering for a few months more than required.
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During STS-118, or an Expedition 15 Stage EVA there were plans to install a new Wireless Video System Antenna on the P3 Stanchion, but it was never done, why is that task never on any of the get-aheads I hear about?
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There we have the PDGF installed, by SSV. Four bolts done.
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DaveS - 11/2/2008 10:21 AM
PaulyFirmbiz - 11/2/2008 5:18 PM
im actually excitecd to see just how much of the PLB the kibo takes up givin the size
It's about the same size as Destiny.
the destiny lab is 27 ft long... the kibo PM is 37.8 feet long.. id say thats a pretty nominal differnce in size wouldnt you say?
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Why do you suppose NASA TV has gone from the live feed to the animated graphics and still pictures? The live feed is much more interesting.
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They show the graphics for situational context for the viewer, also they are used when the Ku is not stable enough to get live video.
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I love the live feed much better myself, but sometimes Ku antenna coverage doesn't allow for live downlinks.
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Zephon907 - 11/2/2008 5:32 PM Why do you suppose NASA TV has gone from the live feed to the animated graphics and still pictures? The live feed is much more interesting.
No Ku coverage. If they had video, they'd show it, not some simulation. Sometimes there's S-band coverage (when they show the sequential stills), but Ku is greatly restricted since the orbiter's antenna is not operational.
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Remember, this is a live update thread for the EVA.
We've got threads for NASA TV questions. Shuttle Q&A and an ISS Q&A to help with any questions you may have.
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They cant feed off ISS Ku? I would imagine the Ku recivers on ISS are much better then the one antena the shuttle operates with
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Has anyone seen if Stan and Rex did indeed bring out their digital cameras in their tool bags?
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PaulyFirmbiz - 11/2/2008 5:38 PM They cant feed off ISS Ku? I would imagine the Ku recivers on ISS are much better then the one antena the shuttle operates with
There's structural interferences and other factors apart from the quality of the recievers. This has been discussed before, both in live threads and the Q&As. As Chris said, this is live updates, let's not get into a long conversation about this here.
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NOW we have Ku, and we can see the adjustments they're making on the PDGF bolts.
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Columbus is close to getting out of there :)
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eeergo - 11/2/2008 10:34 AM
Zephon907 - 11/2/2008 5:32 PM Why do you suppose NASA TV has gone from the live feed to the animated graphics and still pictures? The live feed is much more interesting.
No Ku coverage. If they had video, they'd show it, not some simulation. Sometimes there's S-band coverage (when they show the sequential stills), but Ku is greatly restricted since the orbiter's antenna is not operational.
Since I'm new here, I'm not up on all the terminology, so I have to ask, what is Ku? If I would guess, I would say it's the Live feed antenna, which cannot be received because of their position in orbit?
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Chris Bergin - 11/2/2008 10:36 AM
Remember, this is a live update thread for the EVA.
We've got threads for NASA TV questions. Shuttle Q&A and an ISS Q&A to help with any questions you may have.
Sorry.
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so, is Stan showing any signs of not having trained enough for the job (questions) or is he doing fine?
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Zephon907 - 11/2/2008 5:46 PM eeergo - 11/2/2008 10:34 AM Zephon907 - 11/2/2008 5:32 PM Why do you suppose NASA TV has gone from the live feed to the animated graphics and still pictures? The live feed is much more interesting.
No Ku coverage. If they had video, they'd show it, not some simulation. Sometimes there's S-band coverage (when they show the sequential stills), but Ku is greatly restricted since the orbiter's antenna is not operational.
Since I'm new here, I'm not up on all the terminology, so I have to ask, what is Ku? If I would guess, I would say it's the Live feed antenna, which cannot be received because of their position in orbit?
Yes, Ku stands for the name of the spectrum band the signal is transmitted in. It's relayed directly to ground stations or to TDRS (satellites) and then to the ground. But sometimes the satellite isn't available for use by the Station, or directly not available. Same with the ground stations. Again, there's Q&A threads.
Slightly ahead of schedule now, hard at work with the bolts.
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"Wonderful job on the PDGF installation" - Mission Control to Stan and Rex. Sounds like they're done.
Edit: Glove inspections now. Right glove fine, for Rex. Left glove, little bit of RTV missing, no vectran damage. 2 1/2 hrs into the EVA, right on timeline.
Will be off to work now, unable to follow except through here.
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A bit of RTV has flaked off Rex's left glove, nothing to worry about.
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They're done with the mechanical installation, I think they have to connect the data and power cables next, after unscrewing the lower MMOD shield.
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looks like columbus is on its way to final home on orbit! it looks like there slightly ahead of shedule up there to
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Love looking at his gloves now...
"Pristine, no damage"
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Is that what they are doing. I thought they were counting with their fingers to make sure they had all of the bolts in. JUST KIDDING.
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On the lower shield now.
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20 minutes behind schedule
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Panel released.
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The overgloves seem to be doing their job. I thought these new gloves weren't ready until STS-123?
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George CA - 11/2/2008 5:05 PM
The overgloves seem to be doing their job. I thought these new gloves weren't ready until STS-123?
The delay helped:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5295
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Love going to reposition the upper panel, hand-tightening one of the bolts.
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Hans is giving Dex a break at IV duties.
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Hans greeting Love from inside: "You're doing a great job!"
And that was my 2000th post! :laugh: Boy, don't they grow fast!
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I hope that if they do go ahead with EVA 4 for that blanket, that Hans gets to be EV2 on it (w/Rex as EV1 probably)
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In place. Bolt #3 hand-tightened.
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Love connecting the horseshoes.
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Adjusting the rest of the bolts in the upper shield.
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Interesting article on the outer glove. Now it makes since why it looked like they were counting fingers. It probably takes a long time to get used to wearing and working with the gloves, but they make it look easy.
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Hey, is there a FAQ about the Pistol Grip Tool somewhere that could explain the Alpha-Bravo-Clockwise jargon in more detail?
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Riley1066 - 11/2/2008 12:14 PM
I hope that if they do go ahead with EVA 4 for that blanket, that Hans gets to be EV2 on it (w/Rex as EV1 probably)
How bad off is the blanket? The pictures I saw didnt look like it will take much to repair it, maybe a couple of those pins like they used several missions ago when they had to repair the blanket on that flight.
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Sunset coming down, with the screwing work going on in Stan's side.
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They're finishing off the PDGF task, and relocating the lower panel. Next task, I think, is the removal of the seals in the docking collar of the CBM.
I have to leave the coverage for a while (optics exam tomorrow ;) ) so it'd be great if someone could keep up with the updates. See you in an hour or so!
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They are about 40 minutes behind schedule at the moment..
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Additional work with the connector bolts.
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Quick Columbus question,... We just saw one of the astronauts go by a circular area at the end of the module with four metal rods sticking out.
This was also a feature at the end of the ESA Spacelab modules...
So what is it?
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Love being transitioned on the SSRMS.
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Four hour mark in the EVA. Currently one hour down on the timeline.
Debris panel set for installation on to Columbus.
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Debris panel
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Complex is passing over the South central Pacific Ocean, 37 minutes to sunset & around 50 minutes to the loss of KU & entering the ZOE on this pass. EVA is about 1 hour behind the time line estimate at this point.
Richard
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ApolloLee - 10/2/2008 1:12 PM
Quick Columbus question,... We just saw one of the astronauts go by a circular area at the end of the module with four metal rods sticking out.
This was also a feature at the end of the ESA Spacelab modules...
So what is it?
Same as MPLM. So, I think these are gas vent nozzle of the Positive Pressure Relief Valve.
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Love holding the panel in place while Rex installs it.
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Don't go touching any radiator hoses, Rex! ;)
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Calls of great job on that phase of EVA. Love set to be transitioned away from Columbus.
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Love being moved away from Columbus with a spectacular helmet cam shot.
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Complex about to pass over Georgia and the southeastern US coast, 19 minutes to sunset, 35 minutes to the ZOE, expect loss of KU slightly before this time, a reminder that we are on ISS KU only, no Shuttle KU is available until early on FD 6.
Richard
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Not the worst job in the world (or off it):
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View of Columbus (lower left corner) and the station (upper half)
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"Absolutely spectacular" from Love as they pass over Florida. Notes he can make out the SLF...
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I can see myself!
edit: Well at least my general area
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Crikey, nice view!
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Still haven't seen either Rex or Stan take any pictures :-(
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Complex is passing by Long Island, New York and the Boston area and soon will be passing by the Canadian maritime provinces. 11 minutes to sunset, 27 minutes to the ZOE.
Richard
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Riley1066 - 11/2/2008 12:47 PM
Still haven't seen either Rex or Stan take any pictures :-(
I think the fact that they're behind in the EVA schedule is contributing to that fact. I imagine they'll get some if/when they catch a break in the work or when they're headed back to the airlock.
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Rex clearing up the worksite at Columbus.
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Now have S-band video stills through TDRS-East, spacewalk PET 4 hours 37 minutes.
Richard
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nathan.moeller - 11/2/2008 12:50 PM
Riley1066 - 11/2/2008 12:47 PM
Still haven't seen either Rex or Stan take any pictures :-(
I think the fact that they're behind in the EVA schedule is contributing to that fact. I imagine they'll get some if/when they catch a break in the work or when they're headed back to the airlock.
Yeah that's always the problem ... they always seem to be taking pictures back at the same place (the airlock) on EVA#1s. I wish that they would maybe put a bit more emphasis on unique PAO shots sometimes.
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You put your left leg in, your left leg out, in out in out, shake it all about....(paraphased directions from MCC) :)
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I'd also love to see more photographs taken by the astronauts outside of just ISS Structure, and not always have to have their fellow spacewalker in the shot. Not that I don't love those pictures too, but it would be a nice change of pace ...
Also some shots looking back at the Russian Segment would be nice to get ... we don't have nearly enough of those.
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20 minutes to the next ZOE pass, 3 minutes to sunset, complex is passing southwest of England right now.
Richard
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Riley1066 - 11/2/2008 6:56 PM
I'd also love to see more photographs taken by the astronauts outside of just ISS Structure, and not always have to have their fellow spacewalker in the shot. Not that I don't love those pictures too, but it would be a nice change of pace ...
Also some shots looking back at the Russian Segment would be nice to get ... we don't have nearly enough of those.
Live event thread, not a "Riley would like more photos taken" thread ;)
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Flying over Turin now! Columbus' (The Module's) birthplace!
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Complex passing over Italy, We may or may not get some brief KU video through TDRS-Z on this upcoming pass through the ZOE, the ZOE pass will be 13.5 minutes long. Should get good KU through TDRS-West in about 40 minutes.
Richard
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Has the module power plug in located in the bay been removed from Columbus, or will that happen after grappling?
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S-band stills from Rex Walheim's helmet Cam
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Cool, I just saw it here over Italy (sorry for the off topic).
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Turin is not the birthplace of columbus...the module has been integrated at EADS astrium in bremen germany ;-)...italy is the birhplace of harmony and the mplm´s !!!
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8 minutes to the ZOE, 27 minutes to sunrise on this pass, about 25 - 30 minutes away from good KU video through West again. I will back off my updates until KU returns through TDRS-West.
Richard
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michaelSN99 - 11/2/2008 8:07 PM
Turin is not the birthplace of columbus...the module has been integrated at EADS astrium in bremen germany ;-)...italy is the birhplace of harmony and the mplm´s !!!
You're both right.
The Pre-Integrated Columbus Assembly (i.e. the outer shell and internal structure, and some internal stuff like the thermal control) was built in Turin and later shipped to Bremen for final integration.
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Arm is moving to the Grapple fixture!
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Ronsmytheiii - 11/2/2008 2:01 PM
Has the module power plug in located in the bay been removed from Columbus, or will that happen after grappling?
Yes that cable was removed a few hours ago, Columbus can be in an "unplugged" state for up to 24 hours (If I remember correctly from the STS-122 preflight briefings a few months ago as that question was asked then). When the SSRMS attaches to Columbus for unberthing, it will receive power and heating through the electrical connection between the SSRMS and the new PDGF on Columbus.
Richard
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Back here and catching up fast with your updates, I couldn't get too concentrated with so much going on :)
Doing an inventory of the tools and equipment they have, before moving on to the NTA tasks.
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S-band video is now through TDRS-Z, we may get some KU video from Z if we are lucky, but if we do, it will not last long.
7 minutes left in this ZOE pass, 14 minutes to sunrise.
Richard
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Nicole Cloutier's PAO shift is over :-( ... I like her voice
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Arm just about to grapple Columbus :)
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Riley1066 - 11/2/2008 2:22 PM
Nicole Cloutier's PAO shift is over :-( ... I like her voice
Me too :cool:
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KU coverage will resume in 15 - 20 minutes or so through West for those watching on NASA-TV, 7 minutes to sunrise. Complex is passing south and west of Australia at this time.
Richard
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Space Lizard is right, here you can find the reference:
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/Pr_25_2000_p_EN.html
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AS well as the ATV's pressurized section.
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ku is back
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We have KU back (maybe for a brief time as I think it is still through Z), sunrise has occurred, next sunset in 55 minutes.
Richard
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Are they still like 35 minutes behind the timeline?
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Unberthing underway!
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The SSRMS has a firm grapple on Columbus, getting ready soon for unberthing. Complex is passing due south of Sydney, Australia.
Richard
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Riley1066 - 11/2/2008 2:39 PM
Are they still like 35 minutes behind the timeline?
No, they are closer to a hour behind the timeline right now, however they should start to catch up soon now that they are done with the Columbus unberthing prep.
I believe we are on KU through West which is good because we should have KU for at least the next 40 minutes or so.
Richard
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hour behind, suits good, o2 is constraint
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oh ... an HOUR behind the timeline!
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1 hour down in the timeline confirmed. They want to continue with the nominal EVA plan and get all the tasks completed now.
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Sounds like the spacewalkers are up for getting some more Oxygen and staying out there to get some more tasks done?
What are the constraints for how long they can stay out there? - oxygen, battery power and tiredness?
Oxygen they can refill, battery they obviously can't?
Ian
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go for parallel ops
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Update on the EVA, EVA #1 is a little over a hour behind the timeline, current PET is 5 hours 30 minutes, they need to end this EVA by a PET of 7 hours 30 minutes as both suits are O2 limited, they can go back to the airlock for a O2 recharge if needed. MCC-H wants to complete all EVA #1 activities on this EVA as planned pre-EVA, but told the EVA crew that it is their call on what they want to do.
42 minutes to sunset, complex passing northeast of New Zealand.
Richard
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Did anyone catch what the problem he's having is - people are offering to help him.
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GO to release Columbus!
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ichilton - 11/2/2008 2:49 PM
Did anyone catch what the problem he's having is - people are offering to help him.
Safety tethers are getting wrapped around the EVAers, a common event during some EVAs.
Richard
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Doing plans for the O2 recharge.
And the problematic tethers are untangled.
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They are going back to recharge O2
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go for unberth
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Teather clear
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Go for Columbus unbearth (didn't we already have that?)
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How long does the O2 recharge take? - do they just have some kind of hose on the outside of the airlock they plug into their tank?
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ichilton - 11/2/2008 8:54 PM Go for Columbus unbearth (didn't we already have that?)
Yes, it's been given 3 times I think. Probably just they were refining some issues and they're given the go ahead every time they think they're ready.
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EVA crew will go back to the airlock now to stow some tools and do a quick O2 repress/fill of their suits and wait for further words on the NTA install prep. activities from MCC-H on whether to do those preps on this EVA.
The PRLAs are unlatched, (payload bay latches are open) and Columbus is starting to rise out of the payload bay.
35 minutes to sunset, complex 210 miles over the south Pacific Ocean.
Richard
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There it goes!
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Good Motion Out of the bay..
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Columbus is moving :D
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"Columbus has started its trip to the New World"
I think it was Dan Tani that said that? ;)
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ichilton - 11/2/2008 2:54 PM
Go for Columbus unbearth (didn't we already have that?)
Well they disconnected the cables providing power to Columbus (so that would be the first 'unberth') while it was in the payload bay, this is the actual physical unberth!
Richard
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sts1canada - 11/2/2008 1:57 PM
EVA crew will go back to the airlock now to stow some tools and do a quick O2 repress/fill of their suits and wait for further words on the NTA install prep. activities from MCC-H on whether to do those preps on this EVA.
The PRLAs are unlatched, (payload bay latches are open) and Columbus is starting to rise out of the payload bay.
35 minutes to sunset, complex 210 miles over the south Pacific Ocean.
Richard
Is this the 1st time they do an O2 recharge? I never heard of it before.
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"Atlantis is very slowly being moved out of the Shuttle bay"
Looks like Columbus has a new name :laugh:
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Great shots of the module being lifted from the payload bay. Over halfway out already.
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Oh heck - stop! - Atlantis is being lifted out of it's own payload bay lol (the PAO got mixed up!)
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That thing is really moving! It's pretty much clear of the payload bay walls. Brian - there's your money shot for the STS-122 review video ;)
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Now completely clear of the payload bay. OT - but the reflection of the SSRMS in Columbus skin is a pretty interesting aspect of this shot.
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DT1 - 11/2/2008 2:59 PM
sts1canada - 11/2/2008 1:57 PM
EVA crew will go back to the airlock now to stow some tools and do a quick O2 repress/fill of their suits and wait for further words on the NTA install prep. activities from MCC-H on whether to do those preps on this EVA.
The PRLAs are unlatched, (payload bay latches are open) and Columbus is starting to rise out of the payload bay.
35 minutes to sunset, complex 210 miles over the south Pacific Ocean.
Richard
Is this the 1st time they do an O2 recharge? I never heard of it before.
This is not a common occurrence , but it is a sign that this EVA will run over the expected 6 hour 30 minute timeline expected pre-EVA, while it is slightly unusual, it is nothing to be concerned about.
Richard
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Amazing sights:
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26 minutes to sunset, 53 minutes to the ZOE, 17 minutes of good KU left on West, not sure about East KU coverage this pass.
Richard
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sts1canada - 11/2/2008 2:02 PM
DT1 - 11/2/2008 2:59 PM
sts1canada - 11/2/2008 1:57 PM
EVA crew will go back to the airlock now to stow some tools and do a quick O2 repress/fill of their suits and wait for further words on the NTA install prep. activities from MCC-H on whether to do those preps on this EVA.
The PRLAs are unlatched, (payload bay latches are open) and Columbus is starting to rise out of the payload bay.
35 minutes to sunset, complex 210 miles over the south Pacific Ocean.
Richard
Is this the 1st time they do an O2 recharge? I never heard of it before.
This is not a common occurrence , but it is a sign that this EVA will run over the expected 6 hour 30 minute timeline expected pre-EVA, while it is slightly unusual, it is nothing to be concerned about.
Richard
I only would like to know if it's the 1st time.
I was not even aware of the capability to do so.
Is this unique to Quest or was it possible also in the pre-ISS Shuttle years?
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Atlantis has started orbit 65 of the STS-122 mission, it will pass over Baja California and Mexico in about 8 minutes.
Richard
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Shuttle questions into Shuttle Q&A.
ISS Questions into ISS Q&A.
Thanks.
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kimmern123 - 11/2/2008 1:59 PM
"Columbus has started its trip to the New World"
I think it was Dan Tani that said that? ;)
25 years after Spacelab-1; ESA has gone a long way; next stop ???
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sts1canada - 11/2/2008 9:02 PM
DT1 - 11/2/2008 2:59 PM
sts1canada - 11/2/2008 1:57 PM
EVA crew will go back to the airlock now to stow some tools and do a quick O2 repress/fill of their suits and wait for further words on the NTA install prep. activities from MCC-H on whether to do those preps on this EVA.
The PRLAs are unlatched, (payload bay latches are open) and Columbus is starting to rise out of the payload bay.
35 minutes to sunset, complex 210 miles over the south Pacific Ocean.
Richard
Is this the 1st time they do an O2 recharge? I never heard of it before.
This is not a common occurrence , but it is a sign that this EVA will run over the expected 6 hour 30 minute timeline expected pre-EVA, while it is slightly unusual, it is nothing to be concerned about.
Richard
It happened on STS-116 too, if I recall correctly. However it wasn't said directly by the CapCom, instead it was just hinted in a way that made, in this case, Christer Fuglesang, stay behind and get a recharge, as he was in the vicinity of the airlock. He wrote about it in his book that was released last year. Apparently they didn't want it released to the whole world that he used too much O2 as some considered it to be part of his medical status.
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Looks like we're out of KU for now.
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I can't tell from the dialog.. Are they joking about resting in the airlock for some extended period of time or is one of the EVA crew overly tired?
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triddirt - 11/2/2008 2:11 PM
I can't tell from the dialog.. Are they joking about resting in the airlock for some extended period of time or is one of the EVA crew overly tired?
If they have enough O2, I wouldn't be surprised if they rested for a bit.
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EVA is now at 6 hours PET, the NTA tank removal preps are still planned for this EVA before it concludes.
Richard
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Columbus being moved over the starboard sill of the payload bay. Easy-does-it does it best!
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nathan.moeller - 11/2/2008 9:13 PM triddirt - 11/2/2008 2:11 PM I can't tell from the dialog.. Are they joking about resting in the airlock for some extended period of time or is one of the EVA crew overly tired?
If they have enough O2, I wouldn't be surprised if they rested for a bit.
I think they have to keep an eye on CO2 scrubbers too, although I don't think they're a determining factor. I agree they'll probably get some extended rest if they're to take at least one more hour than they were supposed to.
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nathan.moeller - 11/2/2008 3:10 PM
Looks like we're out of KU for now.
Yes we have moved out of direct line of sight to TDRS-West, East takes over completely in 7 minutes, however I am not optimistic we will get great (or any KU) through East due to the complex's direction right now. 15 minutes to sunset, 42 minutes to the ZOE.
Richard
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eeergo - 11/2/2008 2:15 PM
nathan.moeller - 11/2/2008 9:13 PM triddirt - 11/2/2008 2:11 PM I can't tell from the dialog.. Are they joking about resting in the airlock for some extended period of time or is one of the EVA crew overly tired?
If they have enough O2, I wouldn't be surprised if they rested for a bit.
I think they have to keep an eye on CO2 scrubbers too, although I don't think they're a determining factor. I agree they'll probably get some extended rest if they're to take at least one more hour than they were supposed to.
For sure. Hopefully we'll get KU back soon (that assumes we lost it). Going by what I'm seeing in the graphics, the view should be pretty amazing.
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KU through East, enjoy it while it lasts ;)
Richard
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KU is back thanks to TDRS-East (thanks Richard :) ). Shot looks excellent.
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So they're postponing the Nitrogen tank setup and going with that S0 Payload stowage bracket install instead?
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No problem Nathan :)
9 minutes to sunset, complex passing over Quebec, 36 minutes to the ZOE, should have about 20 - 25 minutes of KU available during this pass, however I expect it to be spotty ;)
Richard
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"Its stuck, it will be here foreva"
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Heading into orbital night. Are they halting the move until they're back in daylight?
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Rex will go and loosen the connectors of the NTA to be replaced on EVA #2, the N2 lines & electrical connectors will be removed later, Stan will take a well deserved break and stay near or in the airlock while Rex does these tasks.
EVA #1 PET 6 hours 15 minutes, 28 minutes to the ZOE, 1 minute to sunset.
Richard
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Today's MSB (mission status briefing) will be held 90 minutes after the end of EVA #1, there will be NO MMT briefing with John Shannon today.
Richard
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Stan, take some pictures! Columbus is a beauty.
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sts1canada - 11/2/2008 2:32 PM
there will be NO MMT briefing with John Shannon today.
Richard
Can't say I blame him ;) Columbus' back end has been rotated 'up' in relation to the aft end of Atlantis.
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nathan.moeller - 11/2/2008 9:25 PM
Heading into orbital night. Are they halting the move until they're back in daylight?
It looks like they are still moving it.
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Is anyone else seeing that tether? Should it be like that?
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24 minutes to the ZOE, 32 minutes to sunrise, this KU pass through East has been better than expected, for those people taking screen shots, you should have good KU for about the next 15 minutes before it gets spotty.
Excellent screen shots by the way everyone! :)
Richard
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Columbus on the move again.
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"Columbus is on the move. I was not expecting to see it from this perspective"
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The complex is passing over the Sahara Desert at 210 miles altitude, EVA #1 PET is approaching 6 hours 30 minutes.
Richard
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"Columbus is on the roll! I didn't expect it to see it from this perspective."
Me neither!
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The line in the right down quadrant of picture snap02142.jpg in Felix post. What is that?
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perian - 11/2/2008 3:40 PM
The line in the right down quadrant of picture snap02142.jpg in Felix post. What is that?
It is one of the safety tethers attached to Rex's spacesuit.
Richard
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In Z0
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CDR Steve Frick joking that Rex looks farther away on the ISS than he did on STS-110, they flew together on STS-110 when ISS was smaller.
Richard
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Is Stan describing a possible MMOD hit on Quest?
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EVA #1 now 6:30 in duration, 12 minutes to the ZOE, 20 minutes to sunrise, no more KU through East as we are moving away from it (normal occurrence each orbit), all EVA consumables look good right now after the recharge, the only limit is li-oh on Stan's suit, he has a 9 hour limit on li-oh, he jokes he hopes the EVA will be done by then ;)
Richard
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oh wow! He may have found the smoking gun for all the torn gloves!
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Yes, 2mm impact crater "where everybody grabs to get outside the airlock"
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Stan has spotted a 2mm MMOD hit on or near the airlock, he says it looks like a small crater, that shows you the dangers of MMOD!
Richard
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In the middle of the roll maneuver for Columbus.
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Richard, how long until we have KU back?
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Houston has copied the location of the impact, near handrail 0506.
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Riley1066 - 11/2/2008 3:49 PM
oh wow! He may have found the smoking gun for all the torn gloves!
Not necessarily; it could be a recent impact.
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ckiki lwai - 11/2/2008 3:53 PM
Richard, how long until we have KU back?
Well looking at the orbital pass right now, I would say 15 - 20 minutes from now, we should get a KU pass through TDRS-West, we are entering the ZOE now and we will be in it for 7 minutes. 10 minutes to sunrise.
Richard
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Stan want to take a picture ;)
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They don't want Stan to rub anything else on the impact, but he's going to take lots of photos from different angles (mental note: check L2 tomorrow!)
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Now in the ZOE, we are getting S-band video stills through TDRS-Z right now (when NASA-TV shows them).
KU should resume in about 15 minutes or so (this is an estimate, may be sooner or later than that).
Rex is installing a ball stack on the CETA cart on P1 to be used on EVA #2 to temp stow the NTA when it is removed.
EVA #1 PET 6 hours 45 minutes.
Richard
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3 minutes to sunrise, 2 minutes to AOS with TDRS-West, complex passing over the south Indian Ocean.
Richard
PS. 10 minutes to a EVA #1 PET of 7 hours!
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MCC-H asking the EVA crew if they would like to end the EVA after Rex is done with the ball stack activity, they said NO, Rex wants to & will break the torque on the connectors connecting the NTA to the inside of the P1 truss , then the EVA will be finishing up.
Sunrise has occurred, next sunset in 55 minutes, a good KU pass is still 10 minutes away or so.
Richard
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Do we have ku or s-band with images?
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We just got KU (video) now through West I think, it may be spotty for a few minutes, but we should have good KU for the next 40 minutes or so, enjoy! :)
Richard
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Walheim: "Wooooow look at Columbus"
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Looks like SSV right now...
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"Let's give Peggy a new room for her house." -Rex Walheim :laugh:
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"Bringing it home"
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Columbus at the pre-install position
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Definitely back to video now...from orbiter aft payload bay camera...
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Right now I am in class, I have the images but had to mute commentary. can anyone provide the commentary in text form? (Not literal though, we know how bored the PAO can get)
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That's one shiny space lab!
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EVA PET time is now 7 hours, 45 minutes to sunset, 40 minute TDRS-West pass here, waiting for a GO for Columbus install, Columbus is holding steady in the pre-install position.
Richard
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Walheim breaking torque in the bolts in the NTA, while Rex is taking images of the MMOD impact.
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Crew is ready to move Columbus into the "ready to latch" position
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Yea.. columbus actually looks a lot more shiny than Destiny :)
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Columbus is moving into the RTL position (ready to latch), about 1 meter (3 feet) to go to be berthed.
Richard
I forgot to add: being moved very slowly! ;)
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I want to share this one too, with the sun just shining over Columbus
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Complex is moving north of New Zealand, 214 miles up, 39 minutes to sunset, torque is broken on 3 of 4 bolts so far on the NTA task.
Richard
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Walheim has broken the torque at all 4 bolts
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Columbus in ready-to-latch position
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What's Stan getting on with? - they were just discussing something and gave him the option of starting..
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"Columbus is touching the station for the first time"
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"Columbus is touching the ISS for the first time" Hans
"Good work Leo!"
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EVA PET is coming up to 7 hours 30 minutes in the next 15 minutes or so, good KU for the next 25 minutes or so, 33 minutes to sunset, Atlantis starting orbit 66 in over 5 minutes from now. Four good RTL indicators for Columbus, Columbus is touching the station for the first time at 4:29 PM EST (9:29 PM GMT), waiting for first stage CBM capture.
Richard
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ichilton - 11/2/2008 10:30 PM What's Stan getting on with? - they were just discussing something and gave him the option of starting..
I think it was about getting a tether back in the airlock. He would have to get outside and detach it from wherever it is hooked to.
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Excellent! ISS is one module larger :) When is first entry into Columbus?
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Good Job ISS and Atlantis Crew!
The european module is attach to Node 2 Harmony =)
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nathan.moeller - 11/2/2008 10:32 PM Excellent! ISS is one module larger :) When is first entry into Columbus?
Tomorrow! :)
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First-stage capture is in progress
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"oh wow! He may have found the smoking gun for all the torn gloves!"
Probably not since we have evidence that seems to indicate some damage was well away from there and may not be due to any sharp edge.
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Go for SSRMS limp mode to initiate 2nd stage capture.
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Go to begin second stage capture
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first-stage capture is complete
GO for second stage capture
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Walheim translating back to Quest
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Walheim has completed work in P1. Translating back to the airlock to finish the EVA.
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Space.com has initial ingress of the Columbus module tomorrow at 2:55PM EST.
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Great!
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Stan 'just hangin' in the entrance' of Quest :)
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Good Job Rex and Stan.
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Second stage capture going well
Wating for confirmation
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Stan reports good glove condition. Just a stunning view. Second stage capture going well. Standing by for completion confirmation.
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"I was wondering that too because the timelines show they attach Columbus after the EVA has ended and ingress tomorrow so I guess the power/data cables must be internal? "
Correct - they are connected tomorrow.
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Expect 15 - 20 minutes of spotty KU before a handover to East, EVA #1 is wrapping up with the tool inventory, PET is just about 7:30 right now. 22 minutes to sunset on this pass, complex is about to pass over San Francisco in about 8 minutes.
This post concludes my EVA comm coverage for this EVA, see you guys for EVA #2. Great coverage today everyone.
Richard
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EVA1 IV Support seemed to switch from Hans Schlegel (early) to Alan Poindexter (late)... Was this ever explained or discussed... I've been at work today and had to dip in and out of coverage..
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erioladastra - 11/2/2008 10:41 PM "I was wondering that too because the timelines show they attach Columbus after the EVA has ended and ingress tomorrow so I guess the power/data cables must be internal? " Correct - they are connected tomorrow.
What about the cooling? Is it self-contained in Columbus itself?
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Go to ingress airlock. Eyharts confirms that Columbus is now officially part of ISS to a cheering group in Munich.
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CBM procedures finished. Everything is ok.
"Starting the new voyage of exploration of the New New-World"
This is thrilling... today's a huge day! :)
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Going to do a quick WVS shot of the MMOD location.
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Rex Walheim translating back to the Quest airlock
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Did i hear right that the MMT briefing is 90 mins after the EVa ends?
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7 hours and 35 minutes into today's EVA.
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Well, maybe not so quick...trying to locate it...
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I hope Hans and Leopold will be the first to walk in columbus tomorrow.
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paulbacon - 11/2/2008 3:48 PM
Did i hear right that the MMT briefing is 90 mins after the EVa ends?
MSB yes. No briefing with John Shannon today.
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I'd say that today is the beginning of the manned space exploration era for ESA and Europe. They've been up on Soyuz and shuttle but now they have a permanent presence up there.
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Ingressing
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dember - 11/2/2008 3:50 PM
I'd say that today is the beginning of the manned space exploration era for ESA and Europe. They've been up on Soyuz and shuttle but now they have a permanent presence up there.
Indeed. They've worked extremely hard to get to this point. Congratulations to all involved!
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PAO goofed again. He said the shuttle arm will remain grappled to Columbus overnight. It's actually the station arm.
CAPCOM giving Walheim the go-ahead to ingress after getting some pictures of the handrail.
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Rex Walheim going through his tool inventory check before heading into the airlock.
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paulbacon - 11/2/2008 4:48 PM
Did i hear right that the MMT briefing is 90 mins after the EVa ends?
According to the NASA PAO, there will be NO MMT briefing today, just the FD 5 MSB (mission status briefing) to start around 90 minutes after the EVA ends (that would place the start time around 6:30 PM EST (11:30 PM GMT).
Richard
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Well, it isn't too big... with my NASA TV resolution, the impact was almost invisible. Nothing compared to that on the P6 radiator there was a photo of.
Everything ready for ingress and hatch closure.
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sts1canada - 11/2/2008 9:54 PM
paulbacon - 11/2/2008 4:48 PM
Did i hear right that the MMT briefing is 90 mins after the EVa ends?
According to the NASA PAO, there will be NO MMT briefing today, just the FD 5 MSB (mission status briefing) to start around 90 minutes after the EVA ends (that would place the start time around 6:30 PM EST (11:30 PM GMT).
Richard
Great, thanks
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eeergo - 11/2/2008 10:54 PM
Well, it isn't too big... with my NASA TV resolution, the impact was almost invisible. Nothing compared to that on the P6 radiator there was a photo of.
Everything ready for ingress and hatch closure.
I guess there will be hi-res pictures on L2 soon ;) ;) ;)
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Vehicles heading into orbital night soon.
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Rex now ingressing into the airlock:
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Thanks for the coverage guys - excellent!!
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7 hours 45 minutes into today's EVA and counting. Walheim and Love ingressing airlock and ready to pull the thermal cover over the hatch.
EDIT: Thermal cover closed and latched shut. Standing by for hatch closure and repress. Wonderful job gentlemen.
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I'm going to head into my personal orbital darkness too. What a busy day! :)
See you all tomorrow, thanks to all the people who have contributed to the coverage here!
Both spacewalkers inside the airlock, standing by for hatch closure.
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Heading into orbital night for the repress.. Hatch is closed and locked.
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eeergo - 10/2/2008 4:43 PM
erioladastra - 11/2/2008 10:41 PM "I was wondering that too because the timelines show they attach Columbus after the EVA has ended and ingress tomorrow so I guess the power/data cables must be internal? " Correct - they are connected tomorrow.
What about the cooling? Is it self-contained in Columbus itself?
No need for cooling now. Minimu heater power is supplyed from SSRMS/PDGF.
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Good work everyone.
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CAPCOM gave Rex a go to close the hatch (again?).
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They were having some trouble with the thermal cover. Yuri got them straightened out. A velcro tab was inside instead of outside.
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Sounds like repress has started.
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Inside the airlock:
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Today's EVA has officially concluded as repress is confirmed.
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Official EVA time: 7 hours, 58 minutes
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Today's MSB will take place at 5:15 PM CST, 6:15 PM EST.
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Thanks for the great coverage. Work commitments have made it hard for me to join you for live coverage, but you guys made it really easy to catch up!
Have to say Stan Love did a great job in Hans's place. Great work all around to get Columbus installed today.
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Empty payload bay... close to it. ;)
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Ford Mustang - 11/2/2008 3:16 PM
Official EVA time: 7 hours, 58 minutes
Wow. That's quite a bit longer than average, isn't it?
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who needs "hans" (lol)
a fantastic day,and one that ive waited for since the columbus program began way back when,
ive been here watching and will be for all events coming,
great work guys
JJ..
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Lee Jay - 11/2/2008 4:27 PM
Ford Mustang - 11/2/2008 3:16 PM
Official EVA time: 7 hours, 58 minutes
Wow. That's quite a bit longer than average, isn't it?
Longest one that I can recall...
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Longest EVA ever was James Voss and Susan Helms on STS-102 ... 8 hours 53 minutes
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Riley1066 - 11/2/2008 5:42 PM
Longest EVA ever was James Voss and Susan Helms on STS-102 ... 8 hours 53 minutes
Similar deal, too, in the sense that the EV crew went back on umbilicals for an extended period of time, as Bill Harwood noted back then:
http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/STS-102_Archive.txt
Excerpt:
In a marathon spacewalk marked by unexpected glitches and
lost hardware, two astronauts mounted critical equipment on the hull
of the international space station today. They then stood by in
Discovery's cramped airlock for nearly three hours while their crewmates
struggled to reposition a shuttle docking port.
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But the new record, like Roger Maris' home run mark, deserves an
asterisk. Shuttle spacewalks are measured from the time the crew
switches to internal battery power to the time the airlock is
repressurized.
But Voss and Helms reconnected their suits to shuttle air and
power at 6:55 a.m. after six hours and 43 minutes. While still in
vacuum, their spacesuit batteries and oxygen tanks were no longer
needed, making comparisons with other shuttle spacewalks somewhat
academic.
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MSB set to begin shortly...
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MSB starting.
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Davis: "Trading out crew members proved to be a very doable thing."
Shireman: Looking at transferring extra oxygen from Atlantis vs. Atlantis staying an extra day. Decision tomorrow possibly.
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They were talking about the extra day there. Is that an extra day ontop of the current extention? (so landing Weds)
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Thirkettle with a video montage of Columbus installation. "Great day for Europe..."
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psloss - 11/2/2008 6:05 PM
Riley1066 - 11/2/2008 5:42 PM
Longest EVA ever was James Voss and Susan Helms on STS-102 ... 8 hours 53 minutes
Similar deal, too, in the sense that the EV crew went back on umbilicals for an extended period of time, as Bill Harwood noted back then:
http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/STS-102_Archive.txt
Excerpt:
In a marathon spacewalk marked by unexpected glitches and
lost hardware, two astronauts mounted critical equipment on the hull
of the international space station today. They then stood by in
Discovery's cramped airlock for nearly three hours while their crewmates
struggled to reposition a shuttle docking port.
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But the new record, like Roger Maris' home run mark, deserves an
asterisk. Shuttle spacewalks are measured from the time the crew
switches to internal battery power to the time the airlock is
repressurized.
But Voss and Helms reconnected their suits to shuttle air and
power at 6:55 a.m. after six hours and 43 minutes. While still in
vacuum, their spacesuit batteries and oxygen tanks were no longer
needed, making comparisons with other shuttle spacewalks somewhat
academic.
I would disagree with Bill, more specifically the NASA definition. It is no different than an umbilical spacewalk. So Skylab EVA's don't count at all? The duration should be from depress to repress
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6 person station crew officially announced as Expedition 19 (May 2010?)
EDIT: that would be the first 6 person crew..
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JohnV - 11/2/2008 6:31 PM
6 person station crew officially announced as Expedition 19 (May 2010?)
May 2009 as per Alan Thirkettle
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Shireman quoting the station as 57% complete. Nice friendly numbers for the media and the public at large.
Talking in greater detail about the option to borrow some oxygen from Atlantis.
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generic_handle_42 - 11/2/2008 5:32 PM
JohnV - 11/2/2008 6:31 PM
6 person station crew officially announced as Expedition 19 (May 2010?)
May 2009 as per Alan Thirkettle
Thanks! (I forgot the year :cool: )
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Reiterated a possible tradeoff between the shuttle spending an extra day at the ISS vs. transferring oxygen from the shuttle to the oxygen storage in the Quest airlock. This would reduce the oxygen on the shuttle reducing the on orbit time available for the shuttle.
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Oh no, Marcia Dunn asking personal medical data questions. She never learns!
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Are there we have the obligatory Hans illness question :angry:
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6 person crew, so I guess that'll be 2 Soyuz docked at any given time ...
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wow anna jarvis's reaction to marcia dunn's question about getting sick in a spacesuit was interesting. it would seem like common sense would come into play if a astronaut threw up in a suit I would think
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Another question about Hans's illness... when will they learn that the briefers cannot disclose any info? Good follow-up though concerning procedures if an EVA crew member vomits.
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Question about cargo delivery after shuttle.
Good answer, have contract with the Russians until legally allowed. ATV and HTV beyond that as well as COTS (SpaceX and an announcement coming soon...).
Follow-up: Does the future planned cargo capacity exceed what you currently have?
Answer: Shuttle brings 6 other individuals in addition to cargo, unpressurized and pressurized. Unique capabilities, plan to pursue commercial (US) opportunities.
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Did anyone get a capture of the expression on Anna Jarvis' face? It was choice :)
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paulbacon - 11/2/2008 3:50 PM
Are there we have the obligatory Hans illness question :angry:
Hans is doomed
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ApolloLee - 11/2/2008 11:53 PM
paulbacon - 11/2/2008 3:50 PM
Are there we have the obligatory Hans illness question :angry:
Hans is doomed
So far hes meant to have had diarrhea, ear infection and general feeling sick. Poor Han's
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JohnV - 11/2/2008 6:53 PM
Did anyone get a capture of the expression on Anna Jarvis' face? It was choice :)
No, I missed it. I was listening only (rather than watching as well) at that point.
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Question asked about supplying the ISS with a crew of 6 after the shuttle is retired. The answer was COTS, ATV (soon, next month the 22nd I think), Progress, and the Japanese cargo carrier (HTV next year 2009).
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Did anyone catch what they are not allowed to purchase after 2011? I missed it.
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ATV launches March 8
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Replay of Endevour rollover to VAB coming up on NASA TV for those interested...
EDIT: Endeavour -- sheesh
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JohnV - 11/2/2008 6:58 PM
Did anyone catch what they are not allowed to purchase after 2011? I missed it.
Has to do with one of the alphabet soup laws. Might be Iran Non-Proliferation Act but I'm not exactly sure. He didn't mention it by name but it's been discussed here ad nauseum.
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JohnV - 11/2/2008 11:58 PM Did anyone catch what they are not allowed to purchase after 2011? I missed it.
Flights from Russia.
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After the Video File, PAO passing along a couple of notes on ground calls up to the crew while that was playing on NTV. First is that the "gross" leak check of the vestibule between the Harmony and Columbus was completed successfully and the "fine" leak check is being performed now and through the overnight. The other note was that the shuttle GPC that had the problem on Flight Day 3 has been exonerated after the ground went over a dump of its software load.
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Interesting oxygen data from the Mission Briefing. The Quest high pressure oxygen tanks can only be topped up from Orbiter oxygen with a small pump that takes ages to transfer the juice. Low pressure Progress oxygen is no good except for station air. If they traded a docked day for oxygen, they would have about 90% full tanks where they would stand nearly empty after the mission. Decision imminent. In future when shuttle retires, they will send up oxygen in bottles that can be fitted to EMUs from ATV and COTS.
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Wow, thanks for the great coverage guys. Was great reading this all back.
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Thanks everyone for the day full of updates. I just caught up by watching the FD highlights reel first run (at 9pm) while simultaneously following along in this thread, which was really cool. I did get to watch the unberth live but otherwise was busy at work.
If you're new here, please post your questions to the Q+A threads; they DO get answered over there, and very quickly! Leave the minute-by-minute updates to the veterans. They will know more about what's really happening and also what's really news.
I'm so happy for the Europeans. Congrats to everyone, and hang in there Hans, your day is coming Wednesday!
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Bump'n'lock to keep the running order..