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Title: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: ChrisC on 02/10/2008 01:54 pm
This thread is for discussing the astronaut illness on STS-122 that led to the reshuffling of the mission execution sequence.
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: dwmzmm on 02/10/2008 02:03 pm
I'm still curious as to the nature of the illness.  Remember during the third Skylab mission (Pogue, Carr & Gibson) tried to keep their
illness secret early in their mission but forgot to turn off their mikes and mission control heard of the plot.  That, and in addition to their
near munity during their mission, is what led to their never getting another spaceflight assignment after their return to earth.
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: jmjawors on 02/10/2008 02:05 pm
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Columbus_Blog/SEMTH4QR4CF_0.html
Title: RE: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/10/2008 02:10 pm
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ChrisC - 10/2/2008  2:54 PM

This thread is for discussing the astronaut illness on STS-122 that led to the reshuffling of the mission execution sequence.

The changes to the mission will be noted in the Flight Day threads, not here. If you want a thread to randomly speculate an astro's illness....well.....I'n not too sure about the viability of that, given random speculation is going to lead to a lot of babbling. ;)

If that happens, this thread is gone.
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: Jim on 02/10/2008 02:19 pm
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dwmzmm - 10/2/2008  10:03 AM

I'm still curious as to the nature of the illness.  Remember during the third Skylab mission (Pogue, Carr & Gibson) tried to keep their
illness secret early in their mission but forgot to turn off their mikes and mission control heard of the plot.  That, and in addition to their
near munity during their mission, is what led to their never getting another spaceflight assignment after their return to earth.

You won't know.

SAS is a good enough answer
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: trlstyle on 02/10/2008 03:03 pm
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jmjawors - 10/2/2008  10:05 AM

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Columbus_Blog/SEMTH4QR4CF_0.html
Well I guess that will put an end to speculation. I hope he recovers to a "normal" condition soon!
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: Kel on 02/10/2008 03:11 pm
I don't think the general public realizes how stressful it is on the human body to go from being exposed to a constant force vector (gravity) to microgravity (and back again).

Here are a few links that discuss human physiology during adaptation to space (and returning to Earth after being in space):

Human Physiology in Space: http://www.nsbri.org/HumanPhysSpace/index.html
Mixed Up in Space: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast07aug_1.htm
When space makes you dizzy: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/25mar_dizzy.htm
Gravity Hurts: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast02aug_1.htm
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: ETEE on 02/10/2008 05:20 pm
Just out of curiousity and apologies if not appropriate, what would happen if an astronaut on this mission developed acute appendicitis on orbit and required immediate surgery?
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: Jim on 02/10/2008 05:28 pm
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ETEE - 10/2/2008  1:20 PM

Just out of curiousity and apologies if not appropriate, what would happen if an astronaut on this mission developed acute appendicitis on orbit and required immediate surgery?

deorbit
Title: RE: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: ChrisC on 02/10/2008 05:47 pm
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ChrisC - 10/2/2008  2:54 PM
This thread is for discussing the astronaut illness on STS-122 that led to the reshuffling of the mission execution sequence.

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Chris Bergin - 10/2/2008  10:10 AM
The changes to the mission will be noted in the Flight Day threads, not here. If you want a thread to randomly speculate an astro's illness....well.....I'n not too sure about the viability of that, given random speculation is going to lead to a lot of babbling. ;)  If that happens, this thread is gone.

I'm really frustrated and confused about this.  We see all sorts of mindless conjecture in the "live" threads, and it seems arbitrary which discussions are deemed fit to continue their babbling, which are shunted over to a separate thread, and which are deleted.  

By creating this thread I was trying to provide a place for those discussions to happen so that people won't pollute the live thread with them.  I personally have zero interest in discussing the subject of this thread, but I know others do, and I want to give them a sandbox in which to do it so that they stay out of the live thread.  Indeed, there were a few interesting posts about HIPAA and similar European regulations that were posted yesterday, and they were deleted wholesale.

We have weather threads, cheerleading threads, and during previous missions we've even had threads just like this one to shunt off discussions about mission specific issues ("Solar wing torn -- now what?").  Can't you just let this one stick around, at the very least so that you can point people to it when they babble in the live thread?

And with that, I've spent far too much time caring about this, and will go back to downloading John44 videos and quietly READING the live update thread :)
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: ETEE on 02/10/2008 06:03 pm
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Jim - 10/2/2008  6:28 PM

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ETEE - 10/2/2008  1:20 PM

Just out of curiousity and apologies if not appropriate, what would happen if an astronaut on this mission developed acute appendicitis on orbit and required immediate surgery?

deorbit

Presumably they would hand off the Columbus module first?
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: finduz on 02/10/2008 06:53 pm
That's an interesting question. I guess they have some rules they follow.

(Reminds me of the book Rama II)
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: USFJoseph on 02/10/2008 07:06 pm
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dwmzmm - 10/2/2008  10:03 AM

I'm still curious as to the nature of the illness.  Remember during the third Skylab mission (Pogue, Carr & Gibson) tried to keep their
illness secret early in their mission but forgot to turn off their mikes and mission control heard of the plot.  That, and in addition to their
near munity during their mission, is what led to their never getting another spaceflight assignment after their return to earth.

Any more details on this?  I'm not old enough to remember Skylab and have never heard of this "near mutiny" before...
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: erioladastra on 02/10/2008 09:01 pm
"Presumably they would hand off the Columbus module first?"

If time, but if not, no we wouldn't.
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: dwmzmm on 02/10/2008 09:03 pm
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USFJoseph - 10/2/2008  2:06 PM

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dwmzmm - 10/2/2008  10:03 AM

I'm still curious as to the nature of the illness.  Remember during the third Skylab mission (Pogue, Carr & Gibson) tried to keep their
illness secret early in their mission but forgot to turn off their mikes and mission control heard of the plot.  That, and in addition to their
near munity during their mission, is what led to their never getting another spaceflight assignment after their return to earth.

Any more details on this?  I'm not old enough to remember Skylab and have never heard of this "near mutiny" before...

This should give a short version of what happened:

http://www.astronautix.com/flights/skylab4.htm

It says "Rebellion by crew..."  Similar to what happened on the Apollo - 7 mission (wonder why
Cunningham & Eisle never flew again?  Shirra was retiring after this mission anyway.).  There's
also the case of a Soviet cosmonaut who became mentally unstable (in the 1970's, I believe)
that the mission had to be terminated almost immediately so he could be brought back to earth.
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: CessnaDriver on 02/11/2008 07:14 am
In Mullanes book he tells of a payload specialist getting a bit loopy, his experiment was not going well and he was overly interested with how to open the hatch. I believe he wrote that this led to a lock installed that only the commander and pilot could unlock.
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: MATTBLAK on 02/11/2008 08:16 am
I've heard an opinion on who that was, but I probably couldn't say...
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: Oersted on 02/11/2008 03:45 pm
wasn't that a "political" space flyer...?
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: on 02/11/2008 05:10 pm
BBC reporting dihorea we cant trust them anymore
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: ETEE on 02/11/2008 11:36 pm
A journalist at the mission briefing suggested that Hans might have an ear infection and that this was common knowledge in European circles.  No response from the panel.
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: Skylon on 02/12/2008 01:22 am
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CessnaDriver - 11/2/2008  3:14 AM

In Mullanes book he tells of a payload specialist getting a bit loopy, his experiment was not going well and he was overly interested with how to open the hatch. I believe he wrote that this led to a lock installed that only the commander and pilot could unlock.

You're combining two PS's that Mullane spoke about. The first was what he described as a "depressed, constipated PS", the second had an interest in the hatch opening mechanism that made  the shuttle CDR nervous.
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: ericr on 02/12/2008 08:00 am
How dissapointing it must be to loose your place on an EVA   :(
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: trlstyle on 02/12/2008 02:25 pm
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ericr - 12/2/2008  4:00 AM

How dissapointing it must be to loose your place on an EVA   :(
I can't even fathom, but luckily he will be on tomorrows' EVA.
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: TJL on 02/13/2008 01:13 am
Schlegel is 56 as he performs his first EVA.
Were there any astronauts older than that on their first space walk?
Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: aquarius on 02/18/2008 10:21 am
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TJL - 13/2/2008  6:13 AM

Schlegel is 56 as he performs his first EVA.
Were there any astronauts older than that on their first space walk?



Schlegel has broken the record that belonged to the Swiss astronaut Claude Nicollier. He was 55 in December 1999, when he did his first and only EVA.







Title: Re: STS-122 astronaut illness thread
Post by: TJL on 02/18/2008 02:48 pm
Thanks for confirming that, Aquarius.