Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/10/2007 07:58 am
The above includes processing latest, mission refinement latest (potential SARJ repair during 122), the decreasing liklihood there will be an extension to the window, etc.
All based on L2 info, which is building up nicely for STS-122 ahead of the start of the mission's special section on L2. Flight Data Files expected shortly. Those that were with us for STS-120 will know how kick ass these sections are - with STS-120's still flooding in presentations etc. Sample of some 122 L2 content attached.
This thread will cover rollout and pad processing up to launch day.
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Chris Bergin - 10/11/2007 10:30 AMJust keep an eye here: http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/chan15large.jpg
I'm told she's rolling, for what it's worth. No idea, as I don't have any images to go off. Trying to confirm as it doesn't look like it!
She would become visible soon if she's rolling.
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ShuttleDiscovery - 10/11/2007 10:40 AMNASA TV coverage starts at 6:30 am EST.
Incredible lack of coverage! :frown:
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Real Madrid - 10/11/2007 12:39 PMShould be around 11 am EST.
when is the arrival at Pad 39A?
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Where are you getting these pictures?
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DaveS - 10/11/2007 8:03 AMQuotehaywoodfloyd - 10/11/2007 2:01 PMNASA TV.
Where are you getting these pictures?
So not a Web Cam?
You have a live NASA TV feed?
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Seems like it stopped now.
She's moving [again if she stopped].
Now in the final stretch!
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ItsyAndy - 10/11/2007 3:59 PMThey like to stop just outside the pad perimeter to check out the hydraulic system prior to going up to the pad.
Seems like it stopped now.
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Any news on the metallic shavings on the SARJ? This may have an impact on what is going up with 122 and any mission change
Did you not read this? http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5280
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Any news on the metallic shavings on the SARJ? This may have an impact on what is going up with 122 and any mission change
Did you not read this? http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5280
Does not say what the shaving are? and that is the key..
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In less than 6 months (May 15 - Roll-out STS-117... to today) NASA has sent 4 shuttles to the pad...not mentioning during the most intense ISS construction period.
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Images below are to show no motion within two minutes (picture 93 taken two minutes after picture 92).
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Very nice rollout. Looked perfect from here.
Next motion for Atlantis will be a little bit faster.
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Just for record, first motion was at 4:43am and the vehicle was harddown at LC-39A at 11:51am EST.
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Who has the honors today, Hans or Franz?
I'd like to know, too.
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Justin Wheat - 10/11/2007 6:54 PM
Will the Columbus module have a camera like the Destiny lab? If so, will they show it on Nasa's Iss coverage?
I'm not sure that's related to 122 rollout or pad processing :> I think there's an ISS section precisely for these kinds of questions.
Post by: Mark Dave on 11/10/2007 11:36 pm
I noticed a cover over the OAA White Room. How does that cover get removed so the arm can be snug with the hatch?
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MarkD - 11/11/2007 1:36 AMFrom the inside.
I noticed a cover over the OAA White Room. How does that cover get removed so the arm can be snug with the hatch?
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Is there an APU hot fire test scheduled? If so, when?
Dunno yet.
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"The European-built Columbus module has been loaded into the cargo bay of space shuttle Atlantis in preparation for the launch of STS-122 on Dec. 6."
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From nasa.gov:
"The European-built Columbus module has been loaded into the cargo bay of space shuttle Atlantis in preparation for the launch of STS-122 on Dec. 6."
I think this pretty much confirms that:
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I think this pretty much confirms that:
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DaveS - 12/11/2007 1:59 PMQuoteRonsmytheiii - 12/11/2007 8:52 PMThat's the empty workstand in the SSPF, not the PCR at the pad.
I think this pretty much confirms that:
Correct Dave.
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Bastiaan - 13/11/2007 7:51 PM
Does anyone know if the news about halting the EVAs has any impact on tomorrows move of Harmony?
Welcome to the site. This is a live processing thread for STS-122.
The ISS section is here: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=8
However, the answer is no.
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Is there an APU hot fire test scheduled? If so, when?
No hot fire test that I've seen on processing schedules. Those are generally used when the time between flights is greater the 9months or so or when significant work has been done on the APUs during the OPF processing flow.
Could be slightly off on the number of months (going by discussions invovled with Discovery last month and the thought that the APU hot fire might not be necessary for STS-120 because they were right on the edge of that time limit and no major work had been done on Discovery's APUs), but the main point here is that Atlantis flew last June so no hot fire test is manditory.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/13/2007 10:04 pm
We'll have all 17 STS-122 FRR presentations on L2 within an hour or so (thanks to our brilliant sources) :) All 12 STS-122 MOD FRR presentations are already on L2.
I will do what we did for STS-120 ( http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10261&start=1 ), and review the FRR into articles for you non L2 people (blah, you do know I need to eat?) ;)
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Today's Shuttle level FRR was completed earlier. LOTS of topics of interest, but go to proceed to the end of month Agency FRR to approve.
We'll have all 17 STS-122 FRR presentations on L2 within an hour or so (thanks to our brilliant sources) :) All 12 STS-122 MOD FRR presentations are already on L2.
I will do what we did for STS-120 ( http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10261&start=1 ), and review the FRR into articles for you non L2 people (blah, you do know I need to eat?) ;)
Wheaties!! :laugh:
Thanks for that information. Good news that she is go to proceed to Agency FRR. Am looking forward to the articles! Last time, they were spectacular!
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The Master Flight Plan PDF appeared a couple of days ago at: http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/122/122flightplan.html
EDIT: also a good overview of the mission for those of us eager to see the Press Kit:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts122/mission_overview.html
(on that last link, I didn't know the grapple fixture will be installed during EVA 1; there is NO grapple fixture on Columbus at present, due to OBSS restrictions)
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The Master Flight Plan PDF appeared a couple of days ago at: http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/122/122flightplan.html
That's not the Flight Plan. The Flight Plan, on L2, is over 200 pages long.
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The Master Flight Plan PDF appeared a couple of days ago at: http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/122/122flightplan.html
That's not the Flight Plan. The Flight Plan, on L2, is over 200 pages long.
This is the same one listed on numerous sites for every mission. Just not the detailed Flight Plan you're referring to. It's a good day-by-day overview for those of us who aren't on L2.
(Gee, I wonder why it's billed as "Master Flight Plan" on all those sites if it's not?)
EDIT: Technically, the document itself is titled "SpaceCalc Shuttle Mission Planner". Regardless, it is a very accurate document for those of us who don't sit in front of our computers every minute of every flight so we can keep up with where we are on a mission.
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when will the crew arrive for TCDT?
November 19.
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November 19, Monday
10:30 a.m. - Replay of STS-122 Crew TCDT Q&A - HQ (Public and Media Channels )
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when will the crew arrive for TCDT?
17. November
"* Nov. 17 - STS-122 Crew Arrival: The crew will arrive at 9 p.m. at
the Shuttle Landing Facility and make a statement. The arrival will
not be broadcast live but will be part of the NASA TV Video File.
* Nov. 19 - STS-122 Crew Media Q&A: The crew will take media questions
at Launch Pad 39A at 9:35 a.m. The session will be carried on a delay
on NASA TV.
* Nov. 20 - STS-122 Crew Walkout Photo Opportunity: The astronauts
will depart from the Operations and Checkout Building at 7:45 a.m. in
their flight entry suits in preparation for the countdown
demonstration test at the launch pad. The walkout will not be
broadcast live but will be part of the NASA TV Video File.
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/14/2007 07:53 am
STS-122's FRR - Atlantis flight to debut newly improved boosters
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5284
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(was going to be silly and wonder if the crew was anxious to get a head start on their EVAs, but decided not to ;) )
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Chris Bergin - 15/11/2007 4:56 PM Problem with a FRCS valve. Will be discussed tomorrow on either flight rationale or rollback and destack. Don't panic, they may get flight rationale pushed through. Meetings tomrrow will decided. We're monitoring on L2.
Do you know what the problem with the FRCS valve is? Is it a major problem?
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Do you know what the problem with the FRCS valve is? Is it a major problem?
If it's a major problem - they will decide to roll back. If not, they will leave her at the pad.
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Will wait for the John 44, but that's a good spread. I'll write up some of the documentation so we've all got the bases covered.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5287 - will be updating and adding to this as we go.
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And to add on to Wayne's answer about the valve - he said that there are enough redundant / reliable other pieces in the process, and they haven't had an issue in the "other" parts in the past, so that's why he is not worried about it being a constraint.
They are doing electrical testing (thanks L2 for the advance notice :> ) and if it is electrical it can be fixed in the next few days, otherwise they'll just launch as-is.
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I could probably confirm this with the sts-122 press kit, but it doesn't seem to be released yet. Anyone know when this will happen and why they have been delayed on the last few missions?
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Schlegel about Columbus: "For Europe it's the [real] start of man space flight"
Frick says working with the Europeans was "a great opportunity"
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Here is a general question about sts-122, please move to a more appropriate thread if necessary. As I recall, sts-118 replaced two things that were stowed on station for return to earth on sts-122: the CMG and a high gain antenna. However I am having a senior moment and it might be that the high gain antenna is the same as the SASA that actually came down on sts-120. can anyone confirm this for me?
STS-118 launched a new CMG and installed it. The old CMG is waiting on ESP-2 to be returned with STS-122 on LCC-Lite. The SASA was returned on STS-120. There is no HGA to be returned, you mean the SASA.
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Vehicle: Atlantis (OV-104)
Location: Launch Pad 39A
Launch Date: Targeted for Dec. 6, 2007
Crew: Frick, Poindexter, Schlegel, Eyharts, Love, Melvin, Walheim
Inclination/Orbit Altitude: 51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles
On Nov. 10, the STS-122 shuttle stack rolled from the Vehicle Assembly
Building to Launch Pad 39A, where workers are performing closeout
connections and system verification checks. Atlantis' payload,
including the Columbus module, was installed in the orbiter cargo bay
on Sunday. Hypergolic propellant, which powers the maneuvering
systems on both the orbiter and the solid rocket boosters, has been
loaded. The astronauts will arrive on Saturday for the three-day
terminal countdown demonstration test. This is a countdown dress
rehearsal and a training exercise for the flight crew. It will
conclude on Nov. 20 with the astronauts on the flight deck of
Atlantis. They will be participating in the last three hours of the
simulated countdown while working with the launch team located in
Firing Room 4 of the Launch Control Center.
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Schlegel had some trouble to switch from English to German (after four hours of interviews). He's not nervous. Being an astronaut for 20 years now. There's not much training left. relaxing for the mission. celebrating Thanksgiving.
Talked a lot about the mission and EVA stuff...
Interview was broadcasted live on German tv channel "Phoenix"
Schlegel: Columbus is first real European spacecraft.
He considers himself a "European Astronaut", not a German one.
Europe could be on the same level in space flight as USA and Russia
He is not jealous on Léopold Eyharts. Proud to be on this mission and proud to do two EVAs
His wife Heike Walpot is an astronaut too but never actually flew. She works as an airline pilot (Lufthansa) now. She wanted to be the first European woman in space. She is not jealous...
He didn't "wait" for 15 years for this flight, he "worked" for 15 years
He was capcom for Increment 10.
He is worried how his body may adopt to zero gravity (after 15 years). "it's totally different. learning to live for a second time"
He wont do any experiments in Columbus
After the mission: celebrate xmas, skiing with family, debriefings in 2008
he plans to stay in Houston for ESA in the long term
He thinks ISS will be extended beyond 2015. Europe's first priority is science in Columbus, not (yet?) expanding into space i.e. moon & mars
He feels comfortable in the space suit.
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Link here: http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/default.htm
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Ford Mustang - 17/11/2007 8:50 AMI'd guess it's at the discretion of the site operators; there's no protocol I've seen for which cameras are shown, but you can e-mail them and ask.
Not sure if this goes here (but this is 122's processing thread), but I'm wondering if there's a reason that the White Room camera isn't up?
Link here: http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/default.htm
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Avron - 17/11/2007 5:01 PMA WIF(Work site Interface).
locked and loaded ref : http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov but what the pipe sticking out of the boom?
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http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5287 - will be updating and adding to this as we go.
Not a done deal yet, but extreemly likely flight rationale for this is acceptable.
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Justin Wheat - 18/11/2007 2:14 AM9 pm EST, and there will be no NASA TV coverage.
When is the crew to arrive for tcdt?
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DaveS - 17/11/2007 7:29 PM--That kinda stinks...even just for TCDT it would be nice to be able to watch crew arrival live...QuoteJustin Wheat - 18/11/2007 2:14 AM9 pm EST, and there will be no NASA TV coverage.
When is the crew to arrive for tcdt?
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Yes is sucks a lot. Why is there no live coverage?
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That kinda stinks...even just for TCDT it would be nice to be able to watch crew arrival live...
Yes is sucks a lot. Why is there no live coverage?
Seems as they've already landed...
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Does anyone have any photos and what did they arrive in ? T-38's or STA?
I believe the crew arrived in a Gulfstream jet. If they had arrived in T-38s there would have been more than one jet listed in the flight profile posted above. The T-38 left bfore the Gulfstream so it was most likely assessing the weather ahead of the Gulfstream which carried the crew.
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/18/2007 03:42 am
Astronauts Arrive for Countdown Practices
The crew for space shuttle Atlantis' STS-122 mission is at NASA's Kennedy Space Center for its full launch dress rehearsal, known as the terminal countdown demonstration test or TCDT. Atlantis' seven astronauts arrived at Kennedy’s Shuttle Landing Facility in their Gulfstream shuttle training aircraft on Saturday at 8:49 p.m. EST.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
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Ford Mustang - 17/11/2007 8:51 PMPics are up on the Kennedy Media Gallery...
I expect the KSC HotPics gallery to have something either tonight or tomorrow
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 11/18/2007 11:10 am
Post by: Chandonn on 11/18/2007 07:46 pm
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5287
Seems it was a wiring issue and should be resolved in 24 hours, per the article. Good News!
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/19/2007 01:22 am
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
Post by: ChrisGebhardt on 11/19/2007 04:29 am
Post by: DaveS on 11/19/2007 08:33 am
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Trekkie07 - 19/11/2007 6:29 AMMike is still the Launch Director. Lyons is the Assistant Launch Director. They simply omitted "Assistant". And it's not the first time to have made miss like that. For some of the STS-120 tow back to the OPF photos, Orbiter has been replaced with Orbital.
I see that Doug Lyons is listed at the STS-122 Launch Director in the KSC Media Gallery. Is the Launch Director a position that usually rotates? I seem to remember that one person is usually the launch director for all missions until he moves on to other duties. Is Mike Leinbach still a Launch Director? Did I miss something in the last month?
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DaveS - 19/11/2007 4:33 AMQuoteTrekkie07 - 19/11/2007 6:29 AMMike is still the Launch Director. Lyons is the Assistant Launch Director. They simply omitted "Assistant". And it's not the first time to have made miss like that. For some of the STS-120 tow back to the OPF photos, Orbiter has been replaced with Orbital.
I see that Doug Lyons is listed at the STS-122 Launch Director in the KSC Media Gallery. Is the Launch Director a position that usually rotates? I seem to remember that one person is usually the launch director for all missions until he moves on to other duties. Is Mike Leinbach still a Launch Director? Did I miss something in the last month?
I thought that was the case seeing as how I would have expected major mention of Mike's departure at one of the press conferences. Thanks for clarifying for me! ;)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/19/2007 01:59 pm
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Chandonn - 18/11/2007 8:46 PM
I see Chris has update the article on Atlantis' FRCS issue:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5287
Seems it was a wiring issue and should be resolved in 24 hours, per the article. Good News!
And that's complete, with everything working now :)
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 11/19/2007 08:08 pm
http://sfa.nasa.gov/products.cfm
- Look under the Mission poster section.
(WARNING: POSTERS ARE VERY BIG FILES!!) :)
Post by: Mark Nguyen on 11/19/2007 08:44 pm
Mark
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ShuttleDiscovery - 19/11/2007 4:08 PM
Official STS-122 poster!
http://sfa.nasa.gov/products.cfm
- Look under the Mission poster section.
(WARNING: POSTERS ARE VERY BIG FILES!!) :)
Thanks for that link!! I've got a screenshot of the elements for the poster (VERY BIG!!)
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 11/19/2007 08:51 pm
Post by: nathan.moeller on 11/19/2007 10:16 pm
Post by: jmjawors on 11/19/2007 10:19 pm
Anyway... yes... Atlantis!
*ahem*
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 11/20/2007 06:33 pm
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs/columbus/newspaper/ESA_ColumbusMission_newspaper_ENG.pdf
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs/columbus/newspaper/ESA_ColumbusLab_newspaper_ENG.pdf
- Also, I don't believe ESA are giving STS-122 a special name for their astronauts (like Esperia or Astrolab), it is just called The Columbus Mission according to their site...
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 11/20/2007 06:46 pm
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/20/2007 10:09 pm
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/21/2007 05:37 am
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5291
Long, and Shuttle Hardcore :) Presentation on L2, and totally awesome for processing flow fans like me, so wanted to write some of it up for everyone to read.
Post by: British NASA on 11/21/2007 04:02 pm
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British NASA - 21/11/2007 11:02 AM
Sure was hardcore but a good read. So the flow is going well?
That's a big yes.
Post by: jacqmans on 11/22/2007 03:08 am
Module
Vehicle: Atlantis (OV-104)
Location: Launch Pad 39A
Launch Date: Targeted for Dec. 6, 2007
Crew: Frick, Poindexter, Schlegel, Eyharts, Love, Melvin, Walheim
Inclination/Orbit Altitude: 51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles
Last weekend, engineers and technicians successfully resolved an issue
with a stuck valve in Atlantis' forward reaction control system,
isolating the problem to a broken ground lug in the helium isolation
valve circuit. Repairs were made and the valve is now functioning
normally. Throughout the week, workers continued to validate
shuttle/pad connections, and orbiter aft closeout work begins Nov.
28. Because no major issues are being worked and processing has been
going well, teams will have Thanksgiving Day through Sunday off.
On Saturday, Nov. 17, the STS-122 crew arrived at Kennedy Space Center
for the terminal countdown demonstration test, or TCDT, which
included a countdown dress rehearsal and a training exercise. The
crew returned to NASA's Johnson Space Center Tuesday following the
TCDT's successful conclusion.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/23/2007 11:29 am
Behind the scenes a lot is going on, relating to the increased worry about the SARJ issue. Corrective action may begin as early as 122, with potential mission extension ability being looked at.
Will write it up (obviously L2 info - including the results of 120's samples - not good news) soon.
Post by: Analyst on 11/23/2007 11:50 am
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Chris Bergin - 23/11/2007 1:29 PM
Will write it up (obviously L2 info - including the results of 120's samples - not good news) soon.
EVA-12 tomorrow will now look behind panel 7 of the SARJ. Maybe this (and SSRMS observation afterwards) can give us new information.
Analyst
Post by: Endeavour118 on 11/23/2007 05:27 pm
Post by: punkboi on 11/23/2007 06:16 pm
Overlooking the cloudy sky, a nice webcam shot of Atlantis with VAB in the distance.
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/23/2007 08:58 pm
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Endeavour118 - 23/11/2007 1:27 PM
if given a go on 12/6 for launch when will the crew arrive for launch in fla on 12/2 or 12/3
December 2.
Post by: shuttlefan on 11/26/2007 05:09 pm
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shuttlefan - 26/11/2007 1:09 PM
On the KSC live video feeds today there's a webcam pointed right at the top of the ET. On the right of the tank's nose there's a yellow square surrounded by some small marks. Are these inperfections in the foam? It's camera 061.
Not really. Those are just areas where the foam is newer then that foam that surrounds it. Basically, it means that the foam in that area had to be removed and resprayed for some reason. It's lighter in color simply because it hasn't been in as much direct sunlight (UV rays) as the rest of the foam in that area. No worries... :cool:
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shuttlefan - 26/11/2007 1:09 PM
On the KSC live video feeds today there's a webcam pointed right at the top of the ET. On the right of the tank's nose there's a yellow square surrounded by some small marks. Are these inperfections in the foam? It's camera 061.
They look like patches to me. Fresh foam is a yellowish white, it turns orange after being out in the sun for a while.
bah, 2 minutes too late.
Post by: nathan.moeller on 11/26/2007 06:10 pm
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starbird - 26/11/2007 12:16 PMQuoteshuttlefan - 26/11/2007 1:09 PM
On the KSC live video feeds today there's a webcam pointed right at the top of the ET. On the right of the tank's nose there's a yellow square surrounded by some small marks. Are these inperfections in the foam? It's camera 061.
They look like patches to me. Fresh foam is a yellowish white, it turns orange after being out in the sun for a while.
bah, 2 minutes too late.
Correct. You see a lot of these spots on ET-124 (STS-117 tank) where foam repairs exist (necessitated by the hail damage suffered at the pad in February). They probably found some imperfections at MAF or KSC (VAB checkout cell) and fixed them. The new foam patches just haven't darkened as much as the foam around them. Not really that uncommon :)
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nathan.moeller - 26/11/2007 8:10 PMNot only that, they're of different type of foam(BX-265 vs NCFI). NCFI is sprayed on by a large robotic device at MAF so it is applied evenly. BX-265 is applied by hand.
The new foam patches just haven't darkened as much as the foam around them. Not really that uncommon :)
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 11/26/2007 06:58 pm
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nathan.moeller - 26/11/2007 4:27 PM
What does the 'NC' in NCFI stand for?
Don't forget that Google is your friend :>
NC = North Carolina.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/shuttle/rtf/otte/et_thermal_protection_fact_sheet.doc
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rdale - 26/11/2007 5:06 PMQuotenathan.moeller - 26/11/2007 4:27 PM
What does the 'NC' in NCFI stand for?
Don't forget that Google is your friend :>
NC = North Carolina.
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/shuttle/rtf/otte/et_thermal_protection_fact_sheet.doc
Huh...oh...thought we had done something wrong here in the Tar Heel State. Waiting with baited breath to crank up the Cheerleading and PAO/Media Comment threads.
Post by: eeergo on 11/27/2007 07:11 pm
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html (No permalink, but until Friday I suppose it'll be good)
Post by: rdale on 11/27/2007 08:36 pm
2) NET 4pm means it won't be any earlier than 4pm, but could be later
3) No need to permalink :> http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Breaking.html
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rdale - 26/11/2007 5:06 PMFor those of us who long ago developed a healthy fear of opening MS Word doc files from the web (they can carry viruses), here's the Google translation of it (click on "View as HTML"):
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/shuttle/rtf/otte/et_thermal_protection_fact_sheet.doc
http://www.google.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fspaceflight.nasa.gov%2Fshuttle%2Frtf%2Fotte%2Fet_thermal_protection_fact_sheet.doc
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gocamels - 26/11/2007 6:05 PMFYI, it's "bated breath". The etymological source is "abated breath", like "held breath" ...
Waiting with baited breath to crank up the Cheerleading and PAO/Media Comment threads.
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/28/2007 11:05 pm
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Justin Wheat - 29/11/2007 1:47 AM1) It's Leinbach.
Is Mike Lienbach going to be the Launch Director?
2) Most likely. As far as I know, the notes of Doug Lyons in all the press releases being the Launch Director is a mistake and they forgot to add Assistant before Launch Director.
Just took a look at the press kit and it states the Mike Leinbach is the KSC Launch Director. Jeff Spaulding will the be NTD with George Diller as the Pre-launch PAO.
Rob Navias will the ascent PAO while also serving as the Entry PAO. The various mission PAOs is as following
Orbit 1: Nicole Lemasters
Orbit 2: Pat Ryan
Orbit 3: TBD in the press kit
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Post by: Chandonn on 11/29/2007 02:53 am
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
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Chandonn - 28/11/2007 10:53 PM
From the above, it should be clear the STS-122 press kit is out!!!
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
Oh thank god. I've been waiting for this.
Post by: eeergo on 11/29/2007 09:00 am
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/29/2007 02:24 pm
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5296
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/29/2007 02:33 pm
Waiting for Mr Hale's standup meeting to finish then we'll write up anything interesting.
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 11/29/2007 03:12 pm
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Chandonn - 29/11/2007 3:53 AM
From the above, it should be clear the STS-122 press kit is out!!!
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
Yay!!
Let's try and find some typos!
*Page 59 (Wrong mission on caption!)
*Page 61 (Wrong module on photo caption again!)
*Page 62 (and again!)
Post by: jacqmans on 11/29/2007 05:49 pm
Post by: on 11/29/2007 09:34 pm
Launch Director......Doug Lyons
http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/currentglance.html#LAUNCHES
Post by: rdale on 11/29/2007 10:44 pm
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Post by: TrueBlueWitt on 11/30/2007 01:14 pm
How are things looking Rob? Too early to start a launch weather thread?
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/30/2007 01:34 pm
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rdale - 27/11/2007 9:36 PM
1) Incorrect time - it's 4pm EST (21Z)
2) NET 4pm means it won't be any earlier than 4pm, but could be later
3) No need to permalink :> http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Breaking.html
Could be on time. 122 is sailing through the FRR we're told :)
Post by: rdale on 11/30/2007 05:03 pm
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TrueBlueWitt - 30/11/2007 9:14 AM
One thing I do care about is Launch Weather..
How are things looking Rob? Too early to start a launch weather thread?
"Officially" I always wait until a launch date is set, but overall looks great. The CONUS is undergoing a MAJOR pattern change, and it looks like the outcome will be VERY cold for the eastern half of the US and pretty dry, especially in the southeast. Right now the computer has low-70's with no rain, and I don't see much reason to modify that.
Post by: psloss on 11/30/2007 05:55 pm
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rdale - 30/11/2007 9:09 AM
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(Feel free to delete this if I got it in too late.)
Respectfully, I'm going to attempt to draw a distinction, though maybe slight. Given the authority the launch director has and how long Mike Leinbach has been LD (since 2000, I believe), maybe it's not trivial.
But would I make a value judgment about this change? No way, and I'm certainly not qualified to do so.
From a "reading the tea leaves" standpoint, Doug Lyons did the "greet the crew" photo op when they flew to KSC for the TCDT...
Post by: Bret on 11/30/2007 08:02 pm
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Bret - 30/11/2007 4:02 PM
Anyone have any inside info on estimated start time for the post-FRR briefing?
I think it's now 4:30pm :)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/30/2007 08:28 pm
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/30/2007 09:03 pm
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5297 includes latest processing news etc. from L2.
Post by: TJL on 11/30/2007 09:11 pm
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - NASA managers have scheduled a news conference at the Kennedy Space Center, Fla., no earlier than 4 p.m. EST, Friday, Nov. 30, to discuss the status of the upcoming space shuttle mission. The news conference will follow the Flight Readiness Review, which is chaired by NASA's Associate Administrator for Space Operations.
The Space Shuttle Program completed its review for Atlantis' STS-122 mission on Nov. 13, and the International Space Station Program will hold its readiness review Nov. 27. The Nov. 30 readiness review is expected to include the selection of an official launch date for the assembly mission that will deliver the European Space Agency Columbus Laboratory to the space station. The current targeted launch time is 4:31 p.m. EST on Dec. 6.
Briefing participants are:
- Associate Administrator for Space Operations Bill Gerstenmaier
- Space Shuttle Program Manager Wayne Hale
- International Space Station Program Manager Mike Suffredini
- STS-122 Launch Director Doug Lyons
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Chris Bergin - 30/11/2007 3:03 PM
Shouldn't be long now. Probably getting slides and such forth ready for the presser.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5297 includes latest processing news etc. from L2.
Great article, Chris!
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/30/2007 09:31 pm
Gerst confirms Dec 6.
I think Wayne's got an ISS tie? - hmm, maybe not, it's a space tie though :)
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Chris Bergin - 30/11/2007 5:31 PMI like how he puts it...being ready to try to launch next Thursday...a good reminder that there's a lot of things left to do before liftoff can occur.
Gerst confirms Dec 6.
Post by: eeergo on 11/30/2007 09:40 pm
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Post by: Seattle Dave on 11/30/2007 09:45 pm
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Chris Bergin - 30/11/2007 4:03 PM
Shouldn't be long now. Probably getting slides and such forth ready for the presser.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5297 includes latest processing news etc. from L2.
Got to say I love L2. Everyone here is lucky to get advanced news via the articles, but we get that live on L2 and it's wonderous to feel like like we've sat in on the meetings and know the answers they are going to give at the breifing.
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Post by: eeergo on 11/30/2007 09:46 pm
They would look seriously into trying 3 in a row.
Post by: Endeavour118 on 11/30/2007 09:46 pm
Post by: eeergo on 11/30/2007 09:49 pm
Of course, all of us in this forum know that very well :)
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Endeavour118 - 30/11/2007 5:46 PM
so mike is still LD!
He always has been...
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Post by: psloss on 11/30/2007 09:58 pm
As already noted in other threads, the suspicion is that the first fine check result wasn't accurate.
Post by: eeergo on 11/30/2007 10:01 pm
If this were real, they could install a seal repair kit, but this looks improbable.
Post by: psloss on 11/30/2007 10:01 pm
Post by: eeergo on 11/30/2007 10:03 pm
Good through 1J-A, with some -not insurmountable- challanges in 1J (they could not perform every part of the work they would like, but much of it)
Post by: psloss on 11/30/2007 10:06 pm
Post by: eeergo on 11/30/2007 10:09 pm
Two reasons why they can't move much with the pitted race: they don't want to stall the joint, and vibrations could be bad for structural integrity of the truss.
If they swapped to the other race, they would change all the trundle bearings, and probably all the DLAs as well, with software changes and launch locks and MLI covers relocation (VERY complicated task, they could do it, but it would be demanding)
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Seattle Dave - 30/11/2007 4:45 PMQuoteChris Bergin - 30/11/2007 4:03 PM
Shouldn't be long now. Probably getting slides and such forth ready for the presser.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5297 includes latest processing news etc. from L2.
Got to say I love L2. Everyone here is lucky to get advanced news via the articles, but we get that live on L2 and it's wonderous to feel like like we've sat in on the meetings and know the answers they are going to give at the breifing.
Nice work!
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GW_Simulations - 30/11/2007 12:07 AM
There's a report in a local paper here in the UK that they are using Fairford as a TAL site on STS-122. Is this true, or is the paper just misinterpreting information?
Not a TAL site, but one of the emergancy contingency sites for EOM (End of Mission). We have a 25 meg, 400 page presentation on L2 with all these landing sites, approach diagrams and photos (there's lots and lots! Including "sporty" island landing strips where the runway is pratically the island).
SPACE SHUTTLE PROGRAM APPROVED LANDING SITES......................... 3-v
Tamanrasset, Algeria..................................................................................... AAT-1
Atlantic City International, Atlantic City, New Jersey ..................................... ACY-1
Hoedspruit AFS, South Africa........................................................................ AHS-1
Amberley, Australia........................................................................................ AMB-1
Amilcar Cabral International, Republic of Cape Verde .................................. AML-1
Piloto Civil Norberto Fernandez, Rio Gallegos, Argentina............................. AWG-1
Bermuda International, St. David’s Island, Bermuda ..................................... BDA-1
Beja, Portugal ................................................................................................ BEJ-1
Ben Guerir, Morocco...................................................................................... BEN-1
Banjul International, Gambia ......................................................................... BYD-1
Dover AFB, Delaware .................................................................................... DOV-1
Dyess AFB, Texas......................................................................................... DYS-1
Elmendorf AFB, Anchorage, Alaska .............................................................. EDF-1
Edwards AFB, California................................................................................ EDW-1
Mataveri International, Easter Island (Chile).................................................. EIP-1
Esenboga, Turkey.......................................................................................... ESN-1
Fairford RAF, England ................................................................................... FFA-1
Otis ANGB, Massachusetts ........................................................................... FMH-1
Istres, France................................................................................................. FMI-1
Francis S. Gabreski, Westhampton Beach, New York .................................. FOK-1
Las Palmas, Grand Canary Isle (Spain) ........................................................ GDV-1
Souda, Crete (Greece) .................................................................................. GSA-1
Andersen AFB, Guam.................................................................................... GUA-1
HAO Atoll, Tuamotu, French Polynesia ......................................................... HAO-1
Ascension Aux AF, Ascension Island ............................................................ HAW-1
Honolulu International, Hawaii ....................................................................... HNL-1
Keflavik NAS, Iceland .................................................................................... IKF-1
Wilmington International, Wilmington, North Carolina ................................... ILM-1
Shannon, Ireland ........................................................................................... INN-1
Diego Garcia NSF, Chagos Archipelago ....................................................... JDG-1
Yokota AB, Tokyo, Honshu Island, Japan ..................................................... JTY-1
Koln/Bonn, Germany ..................................................................................... KBO-1
N’Djili International, Democratic Republic of the Congo ................................ KIN-1
King Khalid International, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia ............................................ KKI-1
Kennedy Space Center, Florida..................................................................... KSC-1
Lajes AB, Azores ........................................................................................... LAJ-1
Lincoln Municipal, Nebraska.......................................................................... LNK-1
Monrovia/Roberts International, Liberia......................................................... LRB-1
MacDill AFB, Tampa, Florida......................................................................... MCF-1
Orlando International, Florida ........................................................................ MCO-1
Moron AB, Spain ........................................................................................... MRN-1
Mountain Home AFB, Idaho .......................................................................... MUO-1
Grant County International, Washington* ...................................................... MWH-1
Myrtle Beach International, South Carolina ................................................... MYR-1
China Lake NAWS, Ridgecrest, California .................................................... NID-1
Cherry Point MCAS, North Carolina .............................................................. NKT-1
White Sands Space Harbor, New Mexico...................................................... NOR-1
Oceana NAS, Virginia.................................................................................... NTU-1
Cecil Field, Jacksonville, Florida.................................................................... NZC-1
Pearce, Australia ........................................................................................... PEA-1
Cape Canaveral AFS Skid Strip, Cocoa Beach, Florida................................ PMR-1
Pease International Tradeport, Portsmouth, New Hampshire ....................... PSM-1
Tindal RAAF, Australia .................................................................................. PTN-1
Ellsworth AFB, South Dakota ........................................................................ RCA-1
Vandenberg AFB, California.......................................................................... VBG-1
Wake Island AAF, Wake Island ..................................................................... WAK-1
Wallops Flight Facility, Wallops Island, Virginia............................................. WAL-1
Halifax International, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada...................................... YHZ-1
Stephenville, Newfoundland, Canada............................................................ YJT-1
Nassau International, New Providence Island, Bahamas.............................. YNN-1
Gander International, Newfoundland, Canada .............................................. YQX-1
Goose Bay, Newfoundland, Canada ............................................................. YYR-1
St. John’s International, Newfoundland, Canada........................................... YYT-1
Zaragoza AB, Spain ...................................................................................... ZZA-1
Check this one out! :)
Post by: Joffan on 11/30/2007 11:44 pm
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Chris Bergin - 30/11/2007 12:16 AM
Not a TAL site, but one of the emergancy contingency sites for EOM (End of Mission).
Thanks. That's what I thought. Obviously another news agency needing to check their facts before they publish.
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Joffan - 1/12/2007 12:44 AM
That is a truly amazing landing strip Chris. I can't believe that the Shuttle Carrier could get the orbiter back from that island - would she come home on a ship?
I don't know. I'll ask the L2 source and copy the response into here (or set it up on the Shuttle Q&A).
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GW_Simulations - 1/12/2007 12:45 AMQuoteChris Bergin - 30/11/2007 12:16 AM
Not a TAL site, but one of the emergancy contingency sites for EOM (End of Mission).
Thanks. That's what I thought. Obviously another news agency needing to check their facts before they publish.
Still, always nice to hear of shuttle "news" in local papers. Which one was it? Don't think I've ever seen the Shuttle mentioned in the York Evening Press ;)
Post by: erioladastra on 12/01/2007 01:49 am
I don't think that is correct - the window would open again Dec 28.
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erioladastra - 30/11/2007 9:49 PMThe beta angle cutout ends before New Year's, but I assume Wayne Hale was referring to other year end programmatic issues for the shuttle that come into play in the meantime that would make it more likely to defer into January in that hypothetical.
"They wouldn't be able to get more launch opportunities until NET Jan 2."
I don't think that is correct - the window would open again Dec 28.
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erioladastra - 30/11/2007 9:49 PM
"They wouldn't be able to get more launch opportunities until NET Jan 2."
I don't think that is correct - the window would open again Dec 28.
The Cristmas holiday (i.e. time off for employees) would be effected if they launched on Dec 28. Furthermore, while the shuttle can be on orbit during the Year End Rollover, Shuttle managers have stated that they would still perfer to avoid that if possible. Hence the Jan 2 date mentioned today. YERO is an option and the Shuttle would do just fine on orbit, but if it can be avoided, it will be. Also, they've said that they won't launch on Dec 31 or Jan 1 because of other reasons which I believe relate to the ground equipment.
Post by: SimonShuttle on 12/01/2007 11:50 am
http://www.google.com/custom?domains=www.nasaspaceflight.com%3Bforum.nasaspaceflight.com&q=YERO&sa=go&sitesearch=www.nasaspaceflight.com&client=pub-2321486110874038&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&safe=active&cof=GALT%3A%23FFFFFF%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336666%3BVLC%3AFFFFFF%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3A003333%3BLBGC%3A105C6C%3BALC%3A66CCCC%3BLC%3A66CCCC%3BT%3A90DCEC%3BGFNT%3A66CCCC%3BGIMP%3A66CCCC%3BLH%3A60%3BLW%3A182%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.nasaspaceflight.com%2F_images%2Flogo.jpg%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2F%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en
Post by: cabbage on 12/01/2007 09:55 pm
There is an article on the BBC website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/gloucestershire/content/articles/2005/08/05/space_shuttle_feature.shtml from 2005 about the 1983 visit of the shuttle on the SCA to Fairford - which includes details but I think is possibly mixing up different flight phases - and perhaps confusing the level of TAL coverage at the primary sites with any level of activity at other possible sites....
Edit: Actually, I think I may have misunderstood that table and perhaps this is a Q&A topic really!
Post by: mkirk on 12/02/2007 12:24 am
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Re: Fairford as TAL - it is listed on the STS-120 Ascent Cue Card in "No Comm Mode Boundaries" and has been on the Execute Package NOTAMs as "Ascent only" so I think it may technically be an option (though from that boundary list there is only a 100fps window in which it would be used, and in the STS-120 case it appears alongside Moron, which would presumably be preferred).
Edit: Actually, I think I may have misunderstood that table and perhaps this is a Q&A topic really!
I think part of the confusion here is due to how the various shuttle landing sites are defined.
In this case it is true that Fairford is an option, however briefly, for a High Energy/Late TAL Abort – this is not the same animal as the certified traditional TAL that you a probably used to hearing about.
The current prime TAL sites are Zaragoza, Moron, and Istres, Fairford is not augmented in the same manner as these sites are in terms of manpower, equipment, navaid capabilities, and support aircraft. For example there is no MLS (microwave landing system) at Fairford.
If you really want to know more about space shuttle landing site selection and definitions, I would recommend reading these specific Flight Rules which are available at this public web site.
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/news/columbia/fr_generic.pdf
These are out of date but are accurate/current enough for the purpose of this discussion. Most of the changes related to the landing sites that are in the current flight rules have to do with the use of GPS.
A1-106 Landing Sites (Defined)
A2-2 Abort Landing Site Requirements
A2-6 Landing Site Weather Criteria
A2-207 Landing Site Selection
A2-209 Landing Site Selection For An Inflight Emergency
A2-264 Emergency Landing Facility Criteria
A4-2 Landing Site Conditions
A4-107 PLS/EOM Landing Opportunity Requirements
Mark Kirkman
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kimmern123 - 2/12/2007 12:44 PMTomorrow midday:
When is the crew scheduled to arrive in Florida today?
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/news/122_countdown_events.html
TV coverage is supposed to start at 1230 local, but that will all depend on when the crew actually gets to the SLF.
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spaceshuttle - 2/12/2007 12:19 PMThey were working on it yesterday, too. Not sure why, but maybe another bird was getting friendly with the tank. (IIRC I read that this tank had attracted a bird to perch on it at the pad a while back.)
Sheer ignorance here, looking at camera 61, some techs are playing with the tank; I'm assuming that they may be fixing some sort of divot. Any clue as to what exactly is going on?
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psloss - 2/12/2007 12:04 PMQuotespaceshuttle - 2/12/2007 12:19 PMThey were working on it yesterday, too. Not sure why, but maybe another bird was getting friendly with the tank. (IIRC I read that this tank had attracted a bird to perch on it at the pad a while back.)
Sheer ignorance here, looking at camera 61, some techs are playing with the tank; I'm assuming that they may be fixing some sort of divot. Any clue as to what exactly is going on?
Thanks! At this point, the last thing we need is another STS-70.
Post by: ChrisGebhardt on 12/02/2007 06:48 pm
Thanks in advance.
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Trekkie07 - 2/12/2007 2:48 PMThey are independent factors, and there are likely others.
My question is: I thought the consumable status was what drove the luanch attempts and that they prefered to stand down after two attemtps to top off their cryo. So what does the time of day have to do with cryo status?
Post by: galileo on 12/02/2007 09:04 pm
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psloss - 2/12/2007 12:04 PMQuotespaceshuttle - 2/12/2007 12:19 PMThey were working on it yesterday, too. Not sure why, but maybe another bird was getting friendly with the tank. (IIRC I read that this tank had attracted a bird to perch on it at the pad a while back.)
Sheer ignorance here, looking at camera 61, some techs are playing with the tank; I'm assuming that they may be fixing some sort of divot. Any clue as to what exactly is going on?
What you are looking at are 3 minor foam repairs that are being prepared for PDL foam application. What i've been told is humidity is too high to do the repairs today (showers near the pad) but weather is forecasted to be good to get them complete on Monday. The rumor is the damage may be undetected damage from roof material falling on the tank at MAF during hurricane Katrina. This tank, ET-125 came to KSC with open work to evaluate and repair some known Katrina damage a little further up on the LOX ogive while the tank was in the checkout cell in the VAB. Hope this answers the questions.....and yes, a detailed inspection of the tank has been done to make sure KSC didnt miss anything else. Once these repairs are done on Monday, ET-125 will be ready to fly. GO ATLANTIS
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The rumor is the damage may be undetected damage from roof material falling on the tank at MAF during hurricane Katrina.
Every inch of that tank was inspected prior to shipping. Do not listen to rumors.
Post by: galileo on 12/02/2007 10:37 pm
Every inch of that tank was inspected prior to shipping. Do not listen to rumors.[/QUOTE]
Well said James (Lockheed), rumors hardly ever end up being the truth. I know that MAF does an extremely thorough job of inspecting the tank before it is shipped. The truth is there will be a lengthy review of all the photos KSC has for this tank going all the way back to the recieving inspection that occured when it arrived from the plant. Only after that process is complete will it be possible to know where/when the damage occured. That review process will be ongoing well after ET-125 is flown and gone.
Post by: erioladastra on 12/03/2007 01:36 am
Not really true - time of year, and to a lesser extent time of day, affect atmospheric density which affects ascent performance.
The key issue for 122/1E is that for up to 3 days we can still do a fligth day 3 rendezvous and can get the 4th EVA - but each day makes the power down to get the 4th EVA deeper (read 'more painful').
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galileo - 2/12/2007 5:04 PM
Once these repairs are done on Monday, ET-125 will be ready to fly. GO ATLANTIS
PDL core repair expected to finish today with curing and clearing this afternoon.
Post by: rdale on 12/03/2007 05:49 pm
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trlstyle - 3/12/2007 8:05 PMProbably Wx reasons along the flight path. The T-38's isn't as stable in bad weather as the G-II.
Why didnt they fly in on T-38s? Is that only for the rehersal? I thought they typically traveled in them.
Post by: ItsyAndy on 12/03/2007 06:46 pm
Thanks.
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ItsyAndy - 3/12/2007 7:46 PM
Sorry if I am off-topic, but can you load the KSC Media Gallery at http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/ ? to get the last images available from the Kennedy Space Center? I don't seem to be able to reach the website?
Thanks.
I have the same problem. I think it is because we are both abroad.
Post by: guth on 12/03/2007 07:07 pm
Post by: Bejowawo on 12/03/2007 07:20 pm
And I am abroad to ;-)
Post by: haywoodfloyd on 12/03/2007 07:21 pm
Post by: haywoodfloyd on 12/03/2007 07:22 pm
They must be having a problem.
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 12/03/2007 07:30 pm
So it is probably some of the NASA KSC sites that are having problems...
Post by: MKremer on 12/03/2007 07:42 pm
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 12/03/2007 09:00 pm
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Ford Mustang - 3/12/2007 5:00 PM
Looks to be a rainy night at the pad (normal)
Maybe a sprinkle or two this evening, but far from a wet period...
Post by: Ford Mustang on 12/03/2007 11:00 pm
Information below is located here. If anyone has a link to the 'Countdown Portal' on NASA's page, could they please post it? Thanks in advance!
Countdown begins at the T-43 hour mark (7 p.m.)
Begin final vehicle and facility closeouts for launch
Check out backup flight systems
Review flight software stored in mass memory units and display systems
Load backup flight system software into Atlantis' general purpose computers
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Ford Mustang - 3/12/2007 7:00 PM
If anyone has a link to the 'Countdown Portal' on NASA's page, could they please post it?
Took a bit of hunting, as NASA 5.0 has everything scattered everywhere at the moment. It lists now as: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/index.html and "Official Countdown Clock", but reads as a session timeout and displays all zeros. The old countdown clock link no longer works.
Post by: RafaelCE on 12/03/2007 11:52 pm
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Ford Mustang - 3/12/2007 6:00 PM
If anyone has a link to the 'Countdown Portal' on NASA's page, could they please post it? Thanks in advance!
This one is still there (takes a few tries to get to now, though):
http://countdown.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/cdt/
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Chandonn - 3/12/2007 7:22 PMQuoteFord Mustang - 3/12/2007 7:00 PM
If anyone has a link to the 'Countdown Portal' on NASA's page, could they please post it?
Took a bit of hunting, as NASA 5.0 has everything scattered everywhere at the moment. It lists now as: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/index.html and "Official Countdown Clock", but reads as a session timeout and displays all zeros. The old countdown clock link no longer works.
I can see this one running now.
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MKremer - 3/12/2007 7:52 PMQuoteFord Mustang - 3/12/2007 6:00 PM
If anyone has a link to the 'Countdown Portal' on NASA's page, could they please post it? Thanks in advance!
This one is still there (takes a few tries to get to now, though):
http://countdown.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/cdt/
That's what I was looking for. Thank you for the other link (I had been watching that, wondering when they'd get it up and running).
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Ford Mustang - 3/12/2007 6:00 PM
Countdown clock has started!
Information below is located here. If anyone has a link to the 'Countdown Portal' on NASA's page, could they please post it? Thanks in advance!
Countdown begins at the T-43 hour mark (7 p.m.)
Begin final vehicle and facility closeouts for launch
Check out backup flight systems
Review flight software stored in mass memory units and display systems
Load backup flight system software into Atlantis' general purpose computers
Just FYI, there are some significant errors on the timeline posted on that page for tomorrow's activities, PRSD Servicing and T-19 hour hold are the most obvious.
I actually supplied a modified/corrected version to Interspace News that they should post first thing in the morining. ;)
http://www.interspacenews.com
Mark Kirkman
Post by: Andrewwski on 12/04/2007 01:45 am
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 12/04/2007 12:15 pm
Middeck and flight-deck platform removal complete (3 a.m.)
Activate and test navigational systems (8 a.m.)
Complete preparations to load power reactant storage and distribution system (10 a.m.)
Flight deck preliminary inspections complete (11 a.m.)
Enter first built-in hold at T-27 hours for a duration of 4 hours (11 a.m.)
Clear launch pad of all non-essential personnel
Perform test of the vehicle's pyrotechnic initiator controllers
Resume countdown (3 p.m.)
Post by: haywoodfloyd on 12/04/2007 12:17 pm
Still looking.
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haywoodfloyd - 4/12/2007 8:17 AM
Anyone know where I can find the TV schedule spreadsheet on the new NASA Website?
Still looking.
Never mind.
I found it here.
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/mission_schedule.html
Post by: ChrisC on 12/04/2007 12:23 pm
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Post by: rdale on 12/04/2007 02:15 pm
And in any case, I'm pretty sure the new NASA website has a thread of its own, this really has ZERO to do with STS-122 rollout.
To keep this connected, this morning's conference says the tank is fully repaired, still no root cause for the need for the repair.
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Since I can't find anything on the Interspacenews site (hopefully Mark'll help me out here... :P), I'll copy from the NASA page, as linked to before [as I won't be able to update throughout the day, I'll post up to when I will be able to update]:
Middeck and flight-deck platform removal complete (3 a.m.)
Activate and test navigational systems (8 a.m.)
Complete preparations to load power reactant storage and distribution system (10 a.m.)
Flight deck preliminary inspections complete (11 a.m.)
Enter first built-in hold at T-27 hours for a duration of 4 hours (11 a.m.)
Clear launch pad of all non-essential personnel
Perform test of the vehicle's pyrotechnic initiator controllers
Resume countdown (3 p.m.)
SHUTTLE LAUNCH COUNTDOWN STATUS
Prepared Tuesday Morning December 4, 2007
Last night at 7:00 pm the Space Shuttle Launch Team began the countdown for the STS-122 mission to install the Columbus Research Module on the International Space Station. Controlled from Firing Room 4, the countdown clock began counting down from the T-43 hour mark toward a planned 4:31 pm EST launch on Thursday afternoon December 6. The countdown contains approximately 26 hours and 31 minutes of built in hold time.
Operations completed over this past weekend and yesterday include pre-launch pressurization of the helium and nitrogen COPV (composite overwrap pressure vessels) tanks for the orbital maneuvering system, reaction control system and main propulsion system. Also the aft compartment was closed out for flight, the payload bay doors were closed, the general purpose computers were loaded with flight software and configured for the countdown, and the backup flight controller was tested.
Operations scheduled for today include:
Launch-2 Days (Tuesday, Dec. 4)
Mid deck and flight deck platform removal (1 a.m.) – Work access platforms within the flight deck and mid deck are removed for flight and flight crew systems stowage will resume.
NAVAID activation and self test (8 a.m.) – The orbiter’s navigational aids which include the GPS (global positioning system) and TACAN (tactical air navigation) receivers, the Radar Altimeter, and the MSBLS (microwave scanning beam landing system) are activated and a self test of the systems is performed.
Complete preparations to load the power reactant storage and distribution (PRSD) system (10 a.m.) – The PRSD is used to store and supply oxygen and hydrogen to the orbiter’s electricity producing fuel cells and oxygen to the environmental control and life support system for cabin pressurization and crew breathing air.
Flight deck preliminary inspections complete (11 a.m.)
Enter first built-in hold at T-27 hours (11 a.m.) – The countdown clock will enter a planned built in hold for 4 hours.
Clear launch pad of all non-essential personnel
Perform test of the vehicle's pyrotechnic initiator controllers – A test of the circuitry for the orbiter and solid rocket booster pyrotechnic devices is performed and a pre-flight bite (built in test equipment) test is performed for the master events controllers (MECs). The MECs are used to control the operation of various pyrotechnic events such as solid rocket booster ignition and separation.
Air to GN2 Changeover – The flow of air through the orbiter compartments is switched over to GN2 (gaseous nitrogen). GN2 is an inert gas that does not support combustion. Once the hazardous PRSD loading is completed Air will once again be directed through the orbiter.
Resume countdown at T-27 hours (3 p.m.) – The countdown clock will resume at the T-27 hour mark.
Begin operations to load cryogenic reactants into Atlantis' fuel cell storage tanks (3 p.m.) – Liquid Oxygen and Hydrogen tanker trucks are positioned at the base of the Fixed Service Structure and propellant flow is initiated up through the OMBUU (orbiter mid-body umbilical unit) and into the orbiter.
Enter second built-in hold at T-19 hours (11 p.m.) – The countdown clock will enter a second built in hold for a duration of 4 hours.
Demate orbiter mid-body umbilical unit (OMBUU) (11 p.m.) – Once the PRSD servicing is completed the servicing lines will be removed, flight caps installed, and the OMBUU demated.
Begin Crew module cleaning and vacuuming
Resume orbiter and ground support equipment closeouts
Mark Kirkman
Post by: rdale on 12/04/2007 03:00 pm
"Why would colder air temperatures result in a higher threat of ice formation on the tank?"
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Does anybody know if there going to use the 165.960 frequency or another frequency? PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT ITS GOING TO BE FOR THURSDAY!!!
Use of the frequency for what?
Post by: Chris Bergin on 12/04/2007 04:32 pm
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Chris Bergin - 4/12/2007 12:32 PM
L-2 MMT starts at the top of the hour.
Am I right in assuming that this meeting should be open and shut rather quickly, given the tank is repaired and the lack of issues with Atlantis? *knock on wood*
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generic_handle_42 - 4/12/2007 5:54 PMQuoteChris Bergin - 4/12/2007 12:32 PM
L-2 MMT starts at the top of the hour.
Am I right in assuming that this meeting should be open and shut rather quickly, given the tank is repaired and the lack of issues with Atlantis? *knock on wood*
Main subject is the WLESS (WLE IDS) isn't working. Lots of notes on L2, writing it up.
They are aiming to approve flying without the sensors working. If the OBSS fails, then they will try and do a first of its kind download from ISS transmitters (as the sensors are collecting data, but not speaking to Atlantis).
Should be approved. Tank isn't an issue. Windows XP laptops are misbehaving (writing that up too) but will be fixed on next flight.
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Windows XP laptops are misbehaving (writing that up too) but will be fixed on next flight.
Windows XP? Misbehaving? Who would have guessed? :bleh:
WLESS issues sound like they have a solid (albeit, untested) workaround, though. Good news! :) It'd be really interesting to see if the solution via the ISS would turn out to work, but let's hope we don't have to find out.
Post by: gordo on 12/04/2007 06:01 pm
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gordo - 4/12/2007 8:01 PMDon't forget that the OBSS is still available. Then we have the usual RPM on docking day, both very usefull TPS breach inspection tools. So both more than make up for the immediate unavailability of the ET photos and the WLEIDS.
A discussion point....are we a little bit go feverish here? The WLESS and upgraded ET imagery were return to flight upgrades, should we really not be talking time out to fix these for this mission?
Post by: Chris Bergin on 12/04/2007 06:15 pm
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Jim - 4/12/2007 12:19 PMQuoteAPAagent - 4/12/2007 11:47 AM
Does anybody know if there going to use the 165.960 frequency or another frequency? PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT ITS GOING TO BE FOR THURSDAY!!!
Use of the frequency for what?
This freq isn't used for anything
Post by: Chris Bergin on 12/04/2007 07:27 pm
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5299
Post by: Felix on 12/04/2007 07:27 pm
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Bit more to come:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5299
Good work Chris. Leroy's just mentioned those very same points!
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DaveS - 4/12/2007 2:11 PMQuotegordo - 4/12/2007 8:01 PMDon't forget that the OBSS is still available. Then we have the usual RPM on docking day, both very usefull TPS breach inspection tools. So both more than make up for the immediate unavailability of the ET photos and the WLEIDS.
A discussion point....are we a little bit go feverish here? The WLESS and upgraded ET imagery were return to flight upgrades, should we really not be talking time out to fix these for this mission?
Also, don't forget about the ET camera that looks right down on one of the wings.
Post by: Orbiter Obvious on 12/04/2007 07:44 pm
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Bit more to come:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5299
Good work Chris. Leroy's just mentioned those very same points!
Missed the news on the overglove though ;)
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Orbiter Obvious - 4/12/2007 2:44 PMQuoteStowbridge - 4/12/2007 2:38 PMQuoteChris Bergin - 4/12/2007 2:27 PM
Bit more to come:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5299
Good work Chris. Leroy's just mentioned those very same points!
Missed the news on the overglove though ;)
Actually no. This site was again way ahead of the loop on that too.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5295 :) Over two weeks ago if you're on L2, as it was an FRR presentation.
Post by: Mark Max Q on 12/04/2007 07:53 pm
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Hey Chris, there's a British guy at the briefing!
Yay! I'm British too. Slightly off topic, but I noticed that Greg Johnson (STS-123 PLT) is British aswell...
Post by: ChrisGebhardt on 12/04/2007 07:56 pm
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Hey Chris, there's a British guy at the briefing!
He sounds South African, if I'm going on his accent.
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Have they gotten to weather yet? I'm not in a position to have a streaming feed from NASA.
Looks good for the first attempt. Gets worse if there's scrubs.
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Hey Chris, there's a British guy at the briefing!
He sounds South African, if I'm going on his accent.
He actually said, 'it's hard for a Brit to be excited' when talking about Columbus launching... ;)
Post by: psloss on 12/04/2007 08:06 pm
(And then the remainder of the discussion was a nice primer, but also repeated from previous countdown briefings.)
Post by: psloss on 12/04/2007 08:14 pm
(Basically nothing new.)
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Todd Halvorson asked about Atlantis' status after STS-125...
Todd's on L2, so he should know the answers to his question on OMDP for Atlantis. I assume he wants an official on quote or something.
Post by: psloss on 12/04/2007 11:11 pm
Post by: Ford Mustang on 12/05/2007 03:02 am
As posted earlier:
Enter second built-in hold at T-19 hours (11 p.m.) – The countdown clock will enter a second built in hold for a duration of 4 hours.
Demate orbiter mid-body umbilical unit (OMBUU) (11 p.m.) – Once the PRSD servicing is completed the servicing lines will be removed, flight caps installed, and the OMBUU demated.
Begin Crew module cleaning and vacuuming
Resume orbiter and ground support equipment closeouts
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what time will the RSS Be retracted
I believe that's scheduled for 8:00 pm EST.
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Chandonn - 5/12/2007 6:16 AMThe schedule provides a good general reference, but typically it happens when they are ready, which could be well before or after that.QuoteEndeavour118 - 5/12/2007 6:13 AM
what time will the RSS Be retracted
I believe that's scheduled for 8:00 pm EST.
Post by: wannamoonbase on 12/05/2007 12:09 pm
GO ATLANTIS!!
GO COLUMBUS!!
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Pretty frosty here in Jacksonville last night, actually had some ice on the windshield and roof. I know that the Cape is always much nicer than Jacksonville but it could still be a chilly night for the pad crews.
GO ATLANTIS!!
GO COLUMBUS!!
Remember folks. This is a processing thread. We have a weather thread for things like this.
Post by: el_nino on 12/05/2007 01:24 pm
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 12/05/2007 07:35 pm
Absolutely no issues being worked at present. GSE issues (two) are fixed/not a problem.
Could be four in a row on the first attempt! :)
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Could be four in a row on the first attempt! :)
Four attempts in a row?
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We'll be starting launch attempt 1 live thread later tonight.
Absolutely no issues being worked at present. GSE issues (two) are fixed/not a problem.
Could be four in a row on the first attempt! :)
You had to go and say it... ;)
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Four attempts in a row?
This year
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We'll be starting launch attempt 1 live thread later tonight.
Absolutely no issues being worked at present. GSE issues (two) are fixed/not a problem.
Could be four in a row on the first attempt! :)
You had to go and say it... ;)
got it covered... Rabbits foot polished up... full container of salt for throwing over left shoulder (or is that right?? I can never remember), AND I have packed away the mirror in styrofoam for the duration of this launch/flight... we should be good to go now... :)
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Four attempts in a row?
This year
Oh.... my bad. :o
Post by: Mark Nguyen on 12/05/2007 08:38 pm
ANYWAY, the ESA is going nuts on NASA TV with their prep briefings. Do we know if 122 is bringing up anything decidedly "European" as a gift to the station, besides Columbus itself?
Mark
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Do we know if 122 is bringing up anything decidedly "European" as a gift to the station, besides Columbus itself?
Mark
Well, last I checked they were bringing up 2 European astronauts, one of whom is scheduled to live on the station for a few months. Oh, you meant something "other than" the module and the astronauts... ;)
EDIT: Robert: "great minds think alike" :o
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Do we know if 122 is bringing up anything decidedly "European" as a gift to the station, besides Columbus itself?
Yes, they call him Léopold Eyharts. ;)
Edit: Yes, apparently they do. :laugh:
Post by: Ford Mustang on 12/05/2007 10:01 pm
Activate the orbiter's inertial measurement units
Activate the orbiter's communications systems
Install film in numerous cameras on the launch pad (11:55 a.m.)
Flight crew equipment late stow (4 p.m.)
Move rotating service structure to the park position (8 p.m.)
Perform ascent switch list
Fuel cell flow-through purge complete
We've been in this BIH for 7 hours now. Two hours until RSS gets moved. I'll hopefully be able to record that for people, trying to get that in the works now. If anyone has a link to said camera (071), that is a live link, I'd appreciate it if you could pass it along. :)
Post by: Lee Jay on 12/05/2007 10:45 pm
rtsp://163.205.10.22:8080/encoder/lc39.rm
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Mark
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I have this listed as 071, but I'm not sure if it's current.
rtsp://163.205.10.22:8080/encoder/lc39.rm
Thanks, but they moved that to the CIF roof cam..?
EDIT: Just in-case, I'll have a time-lapse RSS retract, if I can't get video.
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Mark Nguyen - 5/12/2007 4:47 PM
By gift, I meant something more permanent than the two blokes going up there. :) You know, like a box of haggis, or a copy of the Mona Lisa, or something. :P
Mark
Haggis isn't a gift, it is a sentence! :bleh:
Now a reasonable supply of Scotch whiskey, on the other hand... ;)
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Anyone have a listing of the HTML addresss for the KSC video feeds?
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/
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How about the LC-39 camera?
If you're wondering about the camera pointing at Atlantis, it's here:
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/chan4large.jpg
I'll be providing coverage of the RSS Retract, with a time-lapse of it at the end.
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Thanks, is there a way I can get a real time camera feed?
I'm not sure there's going to be one.. I'm looking for one, so if I find a feed, I'll definitely pass it on.
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EDIT: Looks like they're firing up some Xenon lights... or will be soon!
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If you would like the full resolution, feel free to PM me.
EDIT: To make it loop, you have to hit 'refresh'. I was trying to keep it under 500kb's, and it put me just over that limit with forever loop.
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http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/get-attachment.asp?attachmentid=36757
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Clock:
Thanks... holding at 11 hrs
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Where are we in the count... still in the 11 hr hold??? cant find the clock( the one I found says 17+ hrs.. nice)
Yes, still at T-11h and HOLDING. The hold will be released at 12:06 AM.
If you want to know any of the other hold times, please look here:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/news/122_milestones.html
[small]I will not be able to update throughout the day tomorrow, as that is during school.. Might be on in the morning during the first stages of loading the ET.. Hoping to be here for launch though. :cool: [/small]
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- Resume countdown at T-11 hours (12:06 a.m.)
- Activate the orbiter's fuel cells (1:16 a.m.)
- Clear the blast danger area of all non-essential personnel
- Switch Atlantis' purge air to gaseous nitrogen (1:51 a.m.)
- Enter planned 2-hour built-in hold at the T-6 hour mark (5:06 a.m.)
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 12/06/2007 09:32 am
Moving it to the launch day thread now:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10733&start=436&posts=445