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Title: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 10/19/2007 01:52 pm
According to Novosti kosmonavtiki website, Sirius 4 satellite has arrived aboard aircraft to Baikonur cosmodrome today...

The launch of Proton-M rocket with Briz-M upper stage and Sirius 4 satellite is scheduled in the second half of November...
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 18
Post by: anik on 10/22/2007 02:20 pm
ILS Proton Launch Scheduled In November For SES' SIRIUS 4 Satellite
http://www.ilslaunch.com/zmedia/newsarchives/newsreleases/rec190/

"McLEAN, Va., Oct. 22, 2007 - International Launch Services (ILS) has scheduled its next Proton Breeze M commercial mission for November 18 from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, with the launch of the SIRIUS 4 satellite for SES SIRIUS of Sweden.

The SIRIUS 4 satellite arrived in Baikonur Friday (October 19). The satellite, a Lockheed Martin A2100AX model, will weigh approximately 4600 kg at liftoff, making it the largest in the SIRIUS fleet. SIRIUS 4 is a multi-mission Ku-and Ka-band satellite offering a wide range of communications services across Europe and Northern Africa.

A Russian State Commission concluded that during the September 6 JCSAT-11 mission on Proton, a damaged cable prevented activation of the pyro bolts that were to have separated the first and second stages of the rocket. Proton flights resume this Thursday (October 25) with a Russian federal mission to orbit three Glonass satellites.

ILS' independent Failure Review Oversight Board (FROB) reviewed the conclusions and corrective actions in early October and concurred with the commission's findings. ILS has begun a series of briefings for insurers and customers.

"As we have started the launch campaign for SIRIUS 4, we are focused on performance," said ILS President Frank McKenna. "We acknowledge the diligent effort from the people who enabled such a timely return to flight - the Russian State Commission; our partner, Khrunichev; our customer; the satellite manufacturer; the FROB members; and the U.S. Defense Technology Security Administration.

"With the launch teams now in Baikonur and the arrival of the satellite, we are proceeding steadily with diligence and determination toward a launch on 18 November," McKenna said"
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 18
Post by: anik on 10/23/2007 02:16 pm
SES SIRIUS 4 Blog
http://www.ilslaunch.com/blog/
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 18
Post by: anik on 10/26/2007 03:15 pm
According to http://kz-today.kz/index.php?lang=rus&uin=1138536794&chapter=1153429247 (in Russian), Briz-M upper stage has been delivered to Baikonur cosmodrome by An-124-100 Ruslan aircraft yesterday...
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 10/26/2007 03:47 pm
Spaceflight Now informs (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html) the launch will be at 22:40 UTC on November 17...
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 18
Post by: anik on 10/27/2007 07:34 am
Sirius 4 Mission Overview
http://www.ilslaunch.com/missionoverview/ or
http://www.ilslaunch.com/upload/bin/Sirius4MO-FINAL-B.pdf
Title: Re: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 18
Post by: William Graham on 10/27/2007 08:53 am
Is this the standard Proton-M, or the enhanced version?
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/01/2007 03:53 pm
Preparations on Schedule for SIRIUS 4 Launch
01.11.2007
http://www.khrunichev.ru/khrunichev_eng/live/full_news.asp?id=14859
 
"Preparations continue on schedule for the launch of SES’s SIRIUS 4 spacecraft onboard Khrunichev-manufactured Proton Breeze M launch vehicle at Baikonur launch site, in Kazahstan.

The schedule for the next couple of days includes moving of the Breeze M upper stage from Assembly and Testing building area (“MIK” 92A-50) to technological fuelling station for fuelling to be carried out jointly by Khrunichev’s and Russian space industry’s technicians.  

Once fuelled, the upper stage will be transferred back to the processing and assembly area, where final tests of the upper stage will be conducted prior to mating to the spacecraft and adapter. The mating operations will start on 4th November.
 
The launch of a 4600-kg,Lockheed Martin-built multi-mission communications satellite     SIRIUS 4 onboard  Proton Breeze M launch vehicle is scheduled for 18 November 2007"
Title: Re: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 18
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 11/01/2007 06:32 pm
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GW_Simulations - 27/10/2007  10:53 AM

Is this the standard Proton-M, or the enhanced version?

I think that there is no more "classical" Proton-M. All the launchers since DirecTV-10 are "enhanced".
Title: Re: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 18
Post by: William Graham on 11/01/2007 06:54 pm
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Nicolas PILLET - 1/11/2007  8:32 PM

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GW_Simulations - 27/10/2007  10:53 AM

Is this the standard Proton-M, or the enhanced version?

I think that there is no more "classical" Proton-M. All the launchers since DirecTV-10 are "enhanced".

I think the last one (that failed) was standard.
Title: Re: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nicolas PILLET on 11/02/2007 09:11 am
Why do you think that ?
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/02/2007 02:02 pm
From http://www.ilslaunch.com/blog/

All Tanked Up and No Place to Go (Yet)
1 November 2007  

"Over the last three days, the expert LMCSS Propulsion Team has performed the spacecraft propellant loading operations. Since these are hazardous operations, the Processing Facility was restricted to "essential personnel" only. The rest of us "non-essential" personnel (no offense intended) were banished to the hotels for most of the day. The fuel loading occurred Tuesday as fuel was meticulously transferred from the propellant storage containers to the on-board spacecraft fuel tank. Wednesday, preparations were made for the oxidizer loading, and today the oxidizer was successfully transferred into the spacecraft oxidizer tanks. Throughout these hazardous operations, emergency personnel and an "escape bus" were in place in the event of an emergency"
Title: Re: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 18
Post by: Stan Black on 11/03/2007 09:17 am
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GW_Simulations - 1/11/2007  2:54 PM

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Nicolas PILLET - 1/11/2007  8:32 PM

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GW_Simulations - 27/10/2007  10:53 AM

Is this the standard Proton-M, or the enhanced version?

I think that there is no more "classical" Proton-M. All the launchers since DirecTV-10 are "enhanced".

I think the last one (that failed) was standard.

Afternoon all,

Think Protons are supposed to be manufactured serially, and not customised for each mission.

But 535-21 for Measat had composite structures, whilst 535-20 for DirecTV 10 had all the enhancements.
http://coopi.khrunichev.ru/2006/measat/msat_inf.htm

So what is the current Proton-M configuration?

http://www.ilslaunch.com/liftoff/story04.html
Bonner: Since one of our primary objectives is to improve reliability, the Proton enhancements will not be offered as customizable options. Doing so would create longer production times and increase the potential for error. Instead, the goal is best put as "do one thing and do it well." By early 2009, Khrunichev plans to be producing and launching only one configuration of the Proton Breeze M, for both ILS commercial and Russian government missions with a payload capability in excess of six metric tons.

And of course
535-04
535-05
535-17
535-18
535-19
are yet to fly


Stan
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/05/2007 06:57 am
According to http://kz-today.kz/index.php?lang=rus&uin=1138536794&chapter=1153430150 (in Russian), the assembly of stages of Proton-M rocket has begun yesterday...

Electric tests of Briz-M upper stage and its preparation to the assembly with adapter and Sirius 4 satellite are continuing...
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/09/2007 06:56 pm
According to Novosti kosmonavtiki website, today the space head part (Sirius 4 satellite + adapter + Briz-M upper stage + fairing) has been transported for general assembly with Proton-M rocket...

The fuelling of low pressure tanks of upper stage by propellants is scheduled for November 12th...

The rollout of rocket to the launch pad No. 200/39 is planned on November 14th...
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/10/2007 05:39 am
MEDIA ADVISORY: ILS PROTON TO LAUNCH SES' SIRIUS 4
http://www.ilslaunch.com/zmedia/newsarchives/newsreleases/rec203/

"November 9, 2007

Payload: SIRIUS 4, A2100 AX platform

Separated mass: 4,385 kg (9,667 lbs)

Launch Vehicle: Proton M/Breeze M

Weight at liftoff: 691,272 kg (1.5 million lbs) including payload

Height: 56.2 m (184 ft)

Launch Time: 04:39 Nov. 18 Baikonur; 23:39 Nov. 17 CET; 22:39 Nov. 17 GMT; 17:39; Nov. 17 EST

Launch Site: Baikonur Cosmodrome, Kazakhstan Launch Pad 39

End User: SES SIRIUS, Solna, Sweden

Satellite Manufacturer: Lockheed Martin Commercial Space Systems,Newtown, PA

Launch Vehicle Manufacturer: Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center, Moscow

Launch Services Provider: International Launch Services, McLean, Va.

Satellite Use: Multi-mission satellite that will provide a wide range of telecommunications services, providing coverage over Europe, Africa and the Baltic/Nordic region.

Satellite Statistics:

52 active Ku-band transponders

2 active Ka-band transponders

Anticipated service life of 15 years

Mission Profile: The Proton launch vehicle will use a 4-burn Breeze M mission design to inject the satellite into a geosynchronous transfer orbit. The first three stages of the Proton will use a standard ascent trajectory to place the Breeze M fourth stage, with the satellite, into a suborbital trajectory, from which the Breeze M will place itself and the spacecraft into a circular parking orbit of 173 km (107.5 miles) inclined at 51.5 degrees. Once the upper stage and SIRIUS 4 are in the parking orbit, the unit will then be propelled into its transfer orbit by a series of additional burns of the Breeze M. Following separation from the Breeze M, the spacecraft will perform a series of liquid apogee burns to raise perigee, lower inclination, and circularize the orbit at the geostationary altitude of 35,786 km (22,236 miles).

Target Orbit at Separation: Apogee: 35,786 km (22,236 miles); Perigee: 7,030 km (4,368 miles); Inclination: 17.3 degrees

Spacecraft Separation: Approximately 9 hours, 13 minutes after liftoff

ILS Mission Statistics:

4th ILS Proton launch in 2007

43rd ILS mission on Proton

10th Proton launch of A2100 bus

329th Proton launch"
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/12/2007 03:16 pm
Today, according to http://kz-today.kz/index.php?lang=rus&uin=1138536794&chapter=1153430861 (in Russian), Proton-M rocket has been transported to fuelling station for fuelling of low pressure tanks of Briz-M upper stage by propellants...
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/13/2007 03:36 pm
According to http://www.ln.mid.ru/ns-dvbr.nsf/a84cf38ed768735943256ccc003bcff1/a4780c7b9e3523a4c32573920031aa30?OpenDocument the exact planned launch time is 22:39:47 UTC on November 17th...
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/14/2007 07:17 pm
Proton M Rocket with SIRIUS 4 Satellite Installed on Launch Pad in Baikonur Cosmodrome
14.11.2007

http://www.khrunichev.ru/khrunichev_eng/live/full_news.asp?id=14869
 
"Following the successful completion of the operation readiness review, the go–ahead for the roll out operations was given by the Russian State Commission yesterday. The operations started early this morning, on November 14.
 
The fully assembled space launch vehicle (Proton Breeze M rocket with SIRIUS 4 spacecraft) has been already erected vertically on the launch pad.

Within the following couple of days the Russian space industry’s technical team will perform routine checks of the rocket, upper stage, spacecraft, as well as guidance and control rocket systems checks on the launch pad"

Photos of Proton-M rollout are on http://www.federalspace.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=2579
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/15/2007 04:24 pm
Good information about this launch is on http://coopi.khrunichev.ru/eng/pl_pusk.htm
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/16/2007 02:38 pm
Nice booklet about Sirius 4 launch made by Roskosmos is on http://www.khrunichev.ru/khrunichev/upload/images/autoref/SIRIUS_4.pdf
Title: RE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Se Elmeri on 11/16/2007 08:09 pm
In two words: amazing!
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/17/2007 02:26 am
Moved for live coverage.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: meiza on 11/17/2007 02:59 am
Such a short duration after the previous mishap... Any insights?
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: vt_hokie on 11/17/2007 03:07 am
That first image looks like an attempt at creating the world's most powerful railroad locomotive!   ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: kevwalsh on 11/17/2007 03:55 pm
Usual question - is there a webcast of this anywhere?
Tx
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: William Graham on 11/17/2007 04:03 pm
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kevwalsh - 17/11/2007  4:55 PM

Usual question - is there a webcast of this anywhere?
Tx
http://www.ilslaunch.com/

which links to

http://streamvox.streamos.com/vyvx/ils111707/

Webcast starts at 22:15 GMT.



Now for my usual question...is anyone recording it?
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Jester on 11/17/2007 04:19 pm
And for the sat. dish freaks (yeah you know who you are) live downlink info:

Live Broadcast in North America: Galaxy 26, transponder 15, 93 degrees West,C-band, analog NTSC, downlink 4000 MHz (vertical). Test signals start at 4:45 p.m. EST

Live Feed for Europe and Asia: New Skies NSS-7, transponder WHL5/EUH4, Channel 1 338 degrees West, Ku-band, digital PAL downlink 11148.400 MHz (horizontal), symbol rate 6.1113, fec: 3/4. Test signals start at 21:45 GMT
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: edkyle99 on 11/17/2007 06:06 pm
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vt_hokie - 16/11/2007  10:07 PM

That first image looks like an attempt at creating the world's most powerful railroad locomotive!   ;)

Here are some real attempts along that line of thinking, 180 mph plus "jet trains", in both Russia and the U.S.!

http://www.saynotocrack.com/index.php/2007/04/12/cold-war-silliness/
http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/it/1999/2/1999_2_63.shtml

Then there is the Sandia rocket sled, which probably is/was the fastest thing on rails.

http://www.meggaflash.com/images/sled%20sandia%20220798B.jpg
http://www.sandia.gov/news/resources/video-gallery/

 - Ed Kyle
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Satori on 11/17/2007 07:41 pm
Just for the record, and if this is successful, it will be the (according to my records):

57th orbital launch in 2007...
20th russian orbital launch in 2007...
2792nd russian orbital launch...
1196th orbital launch from GIK-5 Baikonur...
15th orbital launch from GIK-5 Baikonur in 2007

:)
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/17/2007 07:54 pm
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Satori - 17/11/2007  11:41 PM

20th russian orbital launch in 2007...

There are already 20 launches with successful reaching of orbit...
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: edkyle99 on 11/17/2007 08:09 pm
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Satori - 17/11/2007  2:41 PM

Just for the record, and if this is successful, it will be the (according to my records):

57th orbital launch in 2007...
20th russian orbital launch in 2007...
2792nd russian orbital launch...
1196th orbital launch from GIK-5 Baikonur...
15th orbital launch from GIK-5 Baikonur in 2007

:)

This would be the 60th orbital launch attempt in 2007, and the 16th orbital attempt from Baikonur.  It would be the 22nd orbital attempt from Russia or Kazakhstan, and the 23rd orbital attempt made by launch vehicles made in the CIS, year to date.  One Proton and one Zenit 3SL have suffered launch failures this year to date.  One successful Zenit 2M launch was performed from Baikonur.

The U.S. has 16 orbital attempts with one outright failure to orbit and one launch vehicle that orbited, but failed to reach the prescribed orbit.

China has 10 orbital launches with no failures.

Europe has performed five launches with no failures.

- Ed Kyle
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: otisbow on 11/17/2007 08:09 pm
There is a BIG dish broadcast on G-26 C-band T# 15
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: William Graham on 11/17/2007 08:54 pm
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edkyle99 - 17/11/2007  9:09 PM
It would be the 22nd orbital attempt from Russia...China has 10 orbital launches with no failures.

It is interesting how at the start of the year lots of people was saying that China was going to overtake Russia this year in terms of orbital launches, and yet Russia has made twice as many launches as China so far this year.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: TJL on 11/17/2007 08:57 pm
What time does broadcast begin?
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/17/2007 08:59 pm
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TJL - 18/11/2007  12:57 AM

What time does broadcast begin?

At 22:15 UTC...
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: William Graham on 11/17/2007 09:05 pm
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anik - 17/11/2007  9:59 PM

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TJL - 18/11/2007  12:57 AM

What time does broadcast begin?

At 22:15 UTC...

Looks like it's going to be starting 5 minutes late. The clock on the test card says 16 mins, and it's 22:04 now.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: TJL on 11/17/2007 09:05 pm
Thanks, Anik.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:07 pm
Pictures will get bigger as launch is coming up:
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:09 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:15 pm
Live coverage starting in 6 minutes.   This post is to also ensure that my screen-caps are working fine.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:16 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:20 pm
1 minute to webcast start.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:20 pm
One minute until coverage starts:
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:21 pm
Coverage has started!
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:21 pm
Webcast has started! Foggy tonight...
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/17/2007 09:22 pm
It's a bit foggy!!
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:22 pm
18 minutes until launch:
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: William Graham on 11/17/2007 09:22 pm
Is fog a concern for Proton? I know Soyuz is fine with fog, but I don't know about Proton.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:23 pm
I think she wore that shirt on the New Horizons launch too...
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:23 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:25 pm
Video animations of tonight's payload:
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:27 pm
Marla: We would like to ensure you that there is nothing wrong with your monitor, and that it is really foggy at the pad.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:27 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:28 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: rocketnerd on 11/17/2007 09:29 pm
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GW_Simulations - 17/11/2007  4:22 PM

Is fog a concern for Proton? I know Soyuz is fine with fog, but I don't know about Proton.
Nope.  Proton has basically no weather constraints - the only issue is ever upper-level winds.  Ground level winds, fog, lightning...no problem :)
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:29 pm
Processing.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:30 pm
Some snaps of Proton processing:
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:30 pm
Roll-out:
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:31 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Jim on 11/17/2007 09:31 pm
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GW_Simulations - 17/11/2007  5:22 PM

Is fog a concern for Proton? I know Soyuz is fine with fog, but I don't know about Proton.

No range safety system therefore no range safety constraints
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:31 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:32 pm
'Weather is quite favorable right now'
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:32 pm
Brrr, it's cold!
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:33 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:35 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:35 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:35 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:36 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Jim on 11/17/2007 09:36 pm
They ripped off the "Go Atlas, Go etc"  cheer
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:36 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/17/2007 09:37 pm
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Jim - 17/11/2007  10:36 PM

They ripped off the "Go Atlas, Go etc"  cheer

They've been doing that for a while, but it does come across as a bit of a rip off.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:37 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:37 pm
Probably just a hold over from the Atlas ILS days. Could just be a habit. ULA does it with Delta II and IV too.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:38 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:38 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:38 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: DaveS on 11/17/2007 09:38 pm
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Jim - 17/11/2007  11:36 PM

They ripped off the "Go Atlas, Go etc"  cheer
LM used to be a part of ILS. So I guess they decided to keep it.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:39 pm
T-60 Seconds to launch!
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:39 pm
T-60 seconds. Go Proton!
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/17/2007 09:39 pm
T-60 seconds.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Jim on 11/17/2007 09:39 pm
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Nick L. - 17/11/2007  5:37 PM

Probably just a hold over from the Atlas ILS days. Could just be a habit. ULA does it with Delta II and IV too.

Atlas is part of ULA though
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: William Graham on 11/17/2007 09:39 pm
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Jim - 17/11/2007  10:36 PM

They ripped off the "Go Atlas, Go etc"  cheer

I always thought they started that when they marketed the Atlas.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:39 pm
T-30 seconds:
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: rocketnerd on 11/17/2007 09:39 pm
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Jim - 17/11/2007  4:36 PM

They ripped off the "Go Atlas, Go etc"  cheer
when you have multiple independently built stages on a rocket, its typical.  it comes from the actual launch countdown where the status of each is checked late in the count.  titan did it too...but yes, it does have something to do with ILS's Atlas heritage.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:40 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:40 pm
LIFTOFF!! GO PROTON GO!
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:40 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/17/2007 09:40 pm
Launch

"lovely"
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:40 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:41 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:41 pm
Everything looking good. That launch sure burned off that fog...
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/17/2007 09:41 pm
T+60 seconds. Going through Max Q.

"Stable, normally, steady and well" seem to be the key words for Marc's opposite number.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Jim on 11/17/2007 09:41 pm
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GW_Simulations - 17/11/2007  5:39 PM

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Jim - 17/11/2007  10:36 PM

They ripped off the "Go Atlas, Go etc"  cheer

I always thought they started that when they marketed the Atlas.

"Go Atlas, Go Centaur"  was a status check at T-40 sec
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:41 pm
Engines are stable.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:42 pm
Pitch, yaw, and roll are nominal.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:42 pm
1-2 sep!
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:42 pm
SEP and IGNITION:
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:42 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/17/2007 09:42 pm
1-2 sep. Second stage igntion.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:42 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:43 pm
The mission is nominal.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/17/2007 09:43 pm
"The mission continues to proceed normally" :)
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:43 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:44 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:44 pm
Why do they always cut off the launch coverage after 1-2 sep?
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:44 pm
"Aweeesomme!" :)
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:45 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:45 pm
The mission is proceeding nominally.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:45 pm
2-3 sep.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/17/2007 09:45 pm
"AWESOME" - love ILS PAOs ;)

325 seconds.

2-3 sep.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:46 pm
Payload Fairing Jettison!
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:47 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:48 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:48 pm
Coming up on Stage 3 sep:
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:49 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:50 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:50 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:50 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:51 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:52 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:53 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:54 pm
We might have had 3-4 sep, but it's hard to tell, considering they keep playing pat-ourselves-on-the-back videos...
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:54 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:56 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:57 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:57 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:58 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 09:59 pm
Newtown PA, that's right near where I live! ;)
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 09:59 pm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 10:02 pm
'Have not received word of this shutdown'
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 10:02 pm
Just received conformation of shut down Breeze-M burn 1!
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 10:02 pm
Breeze-M shutdown! 9 hours to go...
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Nick L. on 11/17/2007 10:03 pm
"Awesome!" She said it again... :)
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Ford Mustang on 11/17/2007 10:04 pm
Coverage concluded!  Beautiful launch!
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/17/2007 10:11 pm
Launch video will be on site in about an hour or so via Andrewski.
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: dutch courage on 11/17/2007 10:13 pm
Nice launch!

For those who can't get enough: in a little over 16 hours you can see another launch, the return to flight of Sea Launch's Zenit-3SL rocket, the Thuraya-3.

Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: on 11/17/2007 10:19 pm
Zenit 3SL launch is the Return to Flight for SEA LAUNCH company and Oddisey Platform come back to action ^^
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Andy USA on 11/17/2007 10:35 pm
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jancarlobascu - 17/11/2007  5:19 PM

Zenit 3SL launch is the Return to Flight for SEA LAUNCH company and Oddisey Platform come back to action ^^

This is the Proton-M/Sirius thread. You mean to be here: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8618&start=1
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: DarthVader on 11/17/2007 10:48 pm
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Chris Bergin - 17/11/2007  3:11 PM

Launch video will be on site in about an hour or so via Andrewski.

Excellent! Thanks to all involved in this.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Esse on 11/17/2007 10:53 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Andrewwski on 11/18/2007 12:14 am
Launch video:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10873&posts=1&start=1
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: edkyle99 on 11/18/2007 01:16 am
From the ILS blog at:  http://www.ilslaunch.com/blog/

"Second Burn Complete
      
      We have just received word of a second burn and shutdown of the Breeze M upper stage. Next up will be the third burn and subsequent shutdown, which should be in just under two and a half hours from now.

Posted 17 November 2007
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Posted By: ILS Communications Team at 19:41 EST"
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Chris Bergin on 11/18/2007 01:29 am
Thanks Ed.

 They've also got some launch highlights on this link:
 http://admin.ilslaunch.com/player/?file=sirius
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Satori on 11/18/2007 01:43 am
Hi!

Boy Scouts work made me lost this launch ...

Launch time in format 2339:47.XXXUTC??? Thanks in advance!!!!

And thanks Anik for the correction, indeed this was the 21st successful russian launch in 2007.
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: edkyle99 on 11/18/2007 04:31 am
Third Briz M burn complete and Additional Propellant Tank (APT) jettisonned, according to the ILS blog.  Fourth and final burn to take place about 5.5 hours after the third burn, or about three hours from now, with spacecraft separation following at about 07:52 UTC.

The march to the target orbit was expected to occur as follows, by Briz M burn number.

Burn No. 1:  173 km x 51.5 deg parking orbit
Burn No. 2:  258 x 5,000 km x 50.3 deg intermediate orbit
Burn No. 3:  375 x 35,790 km x 49.1 deg transfer orbit (tank jettison)
Burn No. 4:  7,030 x 35,786 km x 17.48 deg target orbit (spacecraft separation)
Final Impulse:  6,880 x 35,672 km x 17.48 deg Briz M withdrawal orbit

 - Ed Kyle
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/18/2007 06:34 am
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Satori - 18/11/2007  5:43 AM

Launch time in format 2339:47.XXXUTC?

22:39:46.973 UTC, according to http://coopi.khrunichev.ru/2007/sirius/sirius.htm
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/18/2007 07:09 am
According to http://www.rian.ru/technology/cosmos/20071118/88559767.html (in Russian), Sirius 4 satellite has been separated from Briz-M upper stage on-time...
Title: RE: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: anik on 11/18/2007 09:52 am
ILS PROTON SUCCESSFULLY LAUNCHES SIRIUS 4 SATELLITE
http://www.ilslaunch.com/zmedia/newsarchives/newsreleases/rec207/

"BAIKONUR COSMODROME, Kazakhstan, Nov. 18, 2007 - A Proton launch vehicle successfully lifted the SIRIUS 4 satellite into orbit today, marking the fourth mission of the year for International Launch Services (ILS).

The Proton Breeze M vehicle, built by ILS partner Khrunichev Space Center of Moscow, lifted off from Pad 39 at the cosmodrome at 4:39 a.m. today local time (5:39 p.m. EST Saturday, 22:39 GMT Saturday). After a 9-hour-13-minute mission, the launcher released the satellite into geostationary transfer orbit.

The SIRIUS 4 satellite is expected to go into service at the beginning of January at 5 degrees East longitude, where it will deliver broadcast and broadband services across Europe and parts of Africa for SES SIRIUS of Sweden.

"This was an especially important mission for ILS and our customer, SES SIRIUS," said ILS President Frank McKenna. "ILS and our partner, Khrunichev, continue to focus on performance and on our long-term relationship with the SES group of companies." This was SES SIRIUS' first mission with ILS, which has launched 12 other satellites on Proton for sister companies SES ASTRA and SES AMERICOM since 1996.

"We are very proud and satisfied that the SIRIUS 4 mission has been a success," said Hakan Sjodin, managing director of SES SIRIUS. "SIRIUS 4 will benefit our customers and extend our coverage and service in Eastern Europe. The success of the SIRIUS 4 mission is a milestone in our company history and we would like to express our appreciation of the good cooperation with our launch partners, International Launch Services and Lockheed Martin Commercial Space Systems."

Lockheed Martin built the SIRIUS 4 spacecraft using its A2100 platform. This was the 10th Proton mission with this type of spacecraft"

According to http://coopi.khrunichev.ru/2007/sirius/sirius.htm (in Russian), the separation of Sirius 4 satellite was at 07:52:31.967 UTC...

According to http://coopi.khrunichev.ru/2007/sirius/sirius_e11.htm (in Russian), the orbit of satellite after separation from Briz-M upper stage was 7002.09 x 35776.43 km...
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: on 11/18/2007 01:44 pm
Launch Photos?

Plis post in this forum, sometime i can see the russian website

the other options is http://www.kosmonavtika.com
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: on 11/18/2007 05:01 pm
http://www.ses-sirius.com/satellites/sirius-4/

Liftoff image from Sirius Website
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: Danderman on 11/18/2007 05:37 pm
Did they say that Proton hit MAX-Q at T  + 6 seconds?
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: SIM city on 11/19/2007 02:30 pm
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Danderman - 18/11/2007  1:37 PM

Did they say that Proton hit MAX-Q at T  + 6 seconds?

66 - see http://www.ilslaunch.com/pictures/proton/original/countdown-large.jpg
Title: Re: LIVE: Proton-M launch with Sirius 4 satellite - November 17
Post by: rdale on 11/19/2007 03:25 pm
They did say that in the coverage, I thought that was pretty fast to be up to full pressure!