Quote from: baldusi on 08/01/2015 04:08 amEuropa green lighted the project assuming a "free" ride from a Proton. Last time they got that sort of deal with NASA, with the workhorse of the US launch vehicles they got cancelled "because" and had to go running to the Russians. Please stop dreaming about Juicy on SLS. In fact, I don't expect ESA to accept a launcher from NASA for an ESA mission for a long time. Great diplomatic move that one.What do you mean by 'assuming a free ride from a Proton' ? As far as I know, JUICE is still planned to be launched by Ariane 5.
Europa green lighted the project assuming a "free" ride from a Proton. Last time they got that sort of deal with NASA, with the workhorse of the US launch vehicles they got cancelled "because" and had to go running to the Russians. Please stop dreaming about Juicy on SLS. In fact, I don't expect ESA to accept a launcher from NASA for an ESA mission for a long time. Great diplomatic move that one.
Quote from: denis on 08/01/2015 11:38 amQuote from: baldusi on 08/01/2015 04:08 amEuropa green lighted the project assuming a "free" ride from a Proton. Last time they got that sort of deal with NASA, with the workhorse of the US launch vehicles they got cancelled "because" and had to go running to the Russians. Please stop dreaming about Juicy on SLS. In fact, I don't expect ESA to accept a launcher from NASA for an ESA mission for a long time. Great diplomatic move that one.What do you mean by 'assuming a free ride from a Proton' ? As far as I know, JUICE is still planned to be launched by Ariane 5.Please read this article and this one. One issue was that at there was a point where the budget just didn't close. And the participating countries didn't wanted to pay more. So, to get the ExoMars mission, to get the JUICE start and to keep the budget within yearly expense limits, they assumed that JUICE would fly on a Proton. Since there's still a lot of time, they might switch to something else. But last time I checked they were interested in swapping instruments with the Russian Ganymede mission.
Please read this article and this one. One issue was that at there was a point where the budget just didn't close. And the participating countries didn't wanted to pay more. So, to get the ExoMars mission, to get the JUICE start and to keep the budget within yearly expense limits, they assumed that JUICE would fly on a Proton. Since there's still a lot of time, they might switch to something else. But last time I checked they were interested in swapping instruments with the Russian Ganymede mission.
The Ariane 5 launch is not included and will be procured later from Arianespace.