To date, one of the Soviet Venera (13?) spacecraft was the only one able to successfully touch down and send back pictures of the surface of Venus.
I think it would be cool if one day ISRO could land a probe on the surface of Venus. To date, one of the Soviet Venera (13?) spacecraft was the only one able to successfully touch down and send back pictures of the surface of Venus.
As I understand it is great for aerocapture, but we lack the necessary atmospheric models. More studies would help.
BUMP!This Hindi article suggests that a Venus mission might be in order.- PRL scientist: Strategy for the Venus mission discussed during a seminar last month.- Planning to go in parallel with other Mars & moon missions.- Mission to focus on sulphuric acid origins and surface temperature studies.
So it seems likely that this spacecraft will be a sibling of MoM.
And, this mission to Venus could have a French connection as Prof Jacques Blamont, a renowned astrophysicists and a friend of the late Dr Vikram Sarabhai, who was conferred the Padma Shri this year, has offered to help Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) with gigantic balloons carrying several instruments but designed to pop in and out of the extremely hot atmosphere of the planet after being unfettered from the orbiter.“It is possible to build and launch the spacecraft in about two-and-a-half years. Dr Adimurthy (who, incidentally, wrote the first feasibility report on the Mars Orbiter Mission) and a big team at Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre, Thiruvananthapuram) are working out all the details like the ideal launch window, the best orbit for the orbiter and the instruments to go onboard,” Prof U R Rao, former chairman of ISRO, and head of the space agency’s Advisory Committee for Space Sciences told Deccan Chronicle.
Quote from: johnxx9 on 12/11/2014 06:18 PM So it seems likely that this spacecraft will be a sibling of MoM.Since ISRO now has GSLV Mk2, hoping they would a bigger spacecraft (probably I-3K bus) with bigger/more scientific payloads.
QuoteQuote from: johnxx9 on 12/11/2014 06:18 PM So it seems likely that this spacecraft will be a sibling of MoM.Since ISRO now has GSLV Mk2, hoping they would a bigger spacecraft (probably I-3K bus) with bigger/more scientific payloads.Vyoma : Which launch vehicle will launch this spacecraft ? GSLV MK2 is not yet operational. One more successful launch of GSLV MK2 with indian cryogenic engine is required to declare it operational and gradually it needs to be scaled up to maximum 2.5 ton GTO capability. I was expecting a GSLV MK2 launch in August this year. Can we expect a GSLV MK2 launch in August ? ISRO is resting on laurels on the workhorse PSLV. If GSLV MK2 doesn't become a stable and reliable launcher, ISRO has to remain content with PSLV to launch MOM type spacecraft which can't have a meaningful scientific payload. --- [ --- ]
ISRO will soon give wings to its other projects—the mission to Venus is likely to happen next year, India’s second lunar probe Chandrayaan II will land on moon in 2017, and its first solar mission Aditya L1 may be launched in 2019.
“We are looking at other planets that we can explore. So, two of them are Jupiter and Venus. The mission analysis is on what type of satellite we are supposed to build and what type of rocket we need.“Studies are going on and it may take few years from now to have a concrete plan,” M Nageswara Rao, Associate Director, Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) said at a plenary session on science technology at the Indian Science Congress here.
Finance Minister Arun Jaitley gave the department of space a 23% increase in its budget. Under the space sciences section, the budget mentions provisions “for Mars Orbiter Mission II and Mission to Venus”.
India’s maiden mission to Venus, the second planet of the solar system, is in all probability going to be a modest orbiter mission.Watkins said a mission to Venus is very-very worthwhile as so little is understood about that planet and NASA would definitely be willing to partner in India’s maiden voyage to Venus.Towards that, NASA and ISRO have already initiated talks this month on trying to jointly undertake studies on using electrical propulsion for powering this mission.
In this context, proposals are solicited from interested scientists within India for novel space based experiments. This Announcement of Opportunity (AO) is addressed to all institutions in India. Those sending proposals may be currently involved in planetary exploration studies / the development of science instruments for space / willing to develop the experiments. The Principal Investigator of the proposal should (i) provide necessary details of the instrument which can address the scientific problems and (ii) be capable of bringing together the instrument team and lead the team for developing a space qualified instrument.The payload capability of the proposed satellite is likely to be 175 kg with 500W of power. However these values are to be tuned based on the final configuration. The proposed orbit is expected to be around 500 x 60,000 km around Venus. This orbit is likely to be reduced gradually, over several months to a lower apoapsis.
It’s official. The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) has invited scientists to suggest studies for a potential orbiter mission to Venus - somewhat similar to the one that landed in Mars in 2013.
"The Announcement of Opportunity [AO] is just the beginning. The studies must be finalised, a project report would have to be presented and approved. A formal mission may not happen before 2020," a senior ISRO official told The Hindu.A mission must be approved by ISRO's Advisory Committee on Space Sciences, then the Space Commission and later by the government.
But a carefully designed Venus atmospheric descent probe of suitably small size could perhaps make it down the surface intact, and perhaps survive just long enough to send up a color picture of what things look like on the surface of Venus.
Anything that has any chance of surviving to the surface of Venus isn't going to be a cheap little add-on. The "small" Pioneer Venus probes were ~90 kg each.Even if you drop the requirement of surviving to the surface, the minimum requirements of a successful entry probe are far beyond something like MIP.
Gee, I was imagining some compact high-strength canister suspended beneath a ballute.
How much time would a descent to the surface approximately take, anyway?
Personally, I think that it would be worthwhile to have an additional extra mini-probe that would detach from the main orbiter spacecraft, to descend into the atmosphere of Venus. Various forum people have commented that aerocapture should be especially doable for Venus, given its conveniently thicker atmosphere relative to its gravitation. A detachable mini-probe that descends into Venus' atmosphere would be sort of counterpart or successor to the Moon Impact Probe on the Chandrayaan-1 mission.However, I don't see why a maiden Venus mission has to purely be restricted to an orbiter mission, when GSLV-Mk2/Mk3 allow significantly more margin for the payload mass envelope of the spacecraft than was previously possible, and given the time margin available.
According to Isro, the payload capability of the Venus-bound satellite is expected to be 175 kg with 500W of power. The orbit will be 500 X 60,000km around Venus, which will gradually reduce over several months.The focus of the mission will be atmospheric and surface studies, Sun-Venus interaction, biology experiments and technology demonstration. An Isro official told TOI that though it is an approved mission, the date of the launch is yet to be firmed up. The Indian mission to Venus+ has been listed as part of the department of space's demand for grants.
The orbit will be 500 X 60,000km around Venus, which will gradually reduce over several months.
The study team has submitted its inputs addressing various options and opportunities for Venus mission. The study teams inputs will be reviewed by Advisory Committee for Space Sciences (ADCOS) for further considerations. Meanwhile, the call for scientific proposals, through an Announcement of Opportunity (AO) to conduct space based experiments has been made to Indian scientists. After completion of selection process of proposals, definition of mission including budget will be worked out. Ten lakh rupees has been sanctioned for the project.This information was provided by the Union Minister of State (Independent Charge) Development of North-Eastern Region (DoNER), MoS PMO, Personnel, Public Grievances & Pensions, Atomic Energy and Space, Dr Jitendra Singh in a reply to an unstarred question in Rajya Sabha today.
Quote from: vyoma on 04/25/2017 05:53 amThe orbit will be 500 X 60,000km around Venus, which will gradually reduce over several months.Just regarding this - is there any such thing as "reverse Oberth maneuver"? I realize Oberth Effect is exploited when raising orbits, but is it also common to do it for shrinking orbits, like when sending spacecraft to other planets, etc?
Indian scientists have been asked to submit proposals for scientific experiments for the mission, through an Announcement of Opportunity. ISRO hopes to carry about 175 kg of payload that would consume 500 watts of power. ISRO has also initiated talks with NASA on using electric propulsion for the mission.
After the scientific payloads have been selected, and the details of the mission will be worked out, including the budget. An initial Rs 10 lakh has been sanctioned for the mission. Union Minister Arun Jaitley allocated 23 percent more funds to the Department of Space during the last budget, and specifically mentioned provisions for "Mars Orbiter Mission II and Mission to Venus."
According to the initial plans, the spacecraft will be injected into an elliptical orbit around Venus, an approach that ISRO also used in the Mangalyaan mission to its advantage. The elliptical orbit allowed ISRO to capture images of the moons of Mars from never before seen angles. On Venus, the spacecraft is expected to be at an altitude of 500 km at its closest approach, and be at a distance of 60,000 km at its farthest point. There is only an orbiter, and no landing component on the Venus mission, which is scheduled to take place after 2020.
Other missions for planetary research being planned by ISRO include Mangalyaan-2, a follow up mission to Mars, Chandrayaan-2, a follow up mission to the Moon, The Aditya mission which will be India's solar observatory, The POLIX (X-ray Polarimeter Experiment) mission to observe celestial bodies that emit x-rays, The IRSIS (Infra-Red Spectroscopic Imaging Survey) mission for conducting infrared spectroscopic surveys of the skies on Earth and the SENSE (Satellite for Earth’s Near Space Environment) mission for investigating electrodynamical environment near the Earth.