Now it's moved into February. Which is the next Moon flight? Could be a tight race between Capstone, Intuitive Machines IM-1 and Artemis 1 with its set of cubesats.
How time flies! And we still don't know the answer to our question about the next launch to the Moon. Right now it looks like a race between ispace's HAKUTO-R Mission 1 (Falcon 9 launch) or Artemis 1, both looking at mid-November. Intuitive Machines and Astrobotic seem to be battling it out for 3rd place in about March, with suggestions that Chandrayaan 3 and Japan's SLIM would be not far behind. But many changes are still possible.
There have been suggestions that Chandrayaan 3 will slip to 2024 (and that it will not, so hard to be sure). Anyway, I would add Japan's SLIM to the list of summer launches, and Russia seems to be aiming for summer 2023 for Luna 25 as well. EDIT: Looks like this summer is still the plan despite some earlier rumours of a delay. So the summer months could be busy with Intuitive, Astrobotic, India, Japan and Russia all going in the same few months.
<snip>..... And then the weird Starship based lunar lander .....<snip>I am still perplexed that nobody tries to use lunar water or at least make a decent effort to try to land at the poles and take some water samples. LCROSS detection of water was 14 years ago. Still there are no sampling missions of the ice.IM1 is the big hope to at least open the door to the poles. Please test you landing systems thoroughly in realistic situations here on Earth including the blown dust and plasma from the exhaust. I am getting tired of crashes in the last 500 meters of the surface.<snip>
... Someone who can regularly landed a booster on a floating platform in the middle of the ocean, should be able to do a landing on the Lunar surface better than someone who have no practice landing a rocket. ...
Quote from: Zed_Noir on 05/13/2023 08:58 am... Someone who can regularly landed a booster on a floating platform in the middle of the ocean, should be able to do a landing on the Lunar surface better than someone who have no practice landing a rocket. ...Great point!
"Chang'e 4 return some weird photos of a plant on the far side of the Moon inside of what looked like a very cheap plastic container. Then Chang'e 5 returned samples but that is the last we heard of it ... I was hoping they would share some with other countries."This is a completely unfair characterization of China's lunar program. The science journals are full of articles based on Chang'e 4 and 5 results. Scientists from many countries including the USA and Europe have been parts of teams analyzing these results. As I understand it, we will soon be seeing invitations from other countries to obtain samples from CE5 for analysis. It's not surprising that Cbinese PIs would get the first go at it. "I am still perplexed that nobody tries to use lunar water or at least make a decent effort to try to land at the poles and take some water samples."VIPER will be doing that (if all goes well), not to mention IM-2 and others of the current crop of landers. Not to mention the recent attempts, all sadly failed, to do studies from low orbits - Flashlight, LunaH-map, IceCube. People are working on it. Your statement is another unfair characterization.
Returning to the question of the next Moon flight... the situation changes every week. We just learned that Luna 25 is delayed a month.This is my current and highly speculative list of possible dates. Probably push every thing back a month or two and it might be right! But these are the dates that are being discussed.July??? AstroboticJuly Chandrayaan 3August Luna 25August SLIMSeptember Intuitive IM-1early next year Intuitive IM-2
Launch of Peregrine Mission 1 is no longer targeted for its planned May 4 date due to anomalies found in tests of the Vulcan Centaur launch vehicle. A new launch date will be announced once the launch vehicle investigation is completed.
There is also a list on a NASA page: https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/planets/moonpage.htmlThey give the future missions as:Future Missions Peregrine Mission 1 - NASA CLPS Lunar Lander (2023) Luna 25 - Roscosmos (Russia) Lunar Lander (2023) IM-1 - NASA CLPS Lunar Lander (2023) SLIM - JAXA (Japan) Lunar Lander (2023) Prime 1 - NASA CLPS Lunar Lander (2023) Cislunar Explorers - NASA Technology Test CubeSats (TBD) Masten Mission 1 - NASA CLPS Lunar Lander (2023) Griffin Mission 1 - VIPER - NASA Lunar South Pole Rover (2024) Lunar Trailblazer - NASA Lunar Orbiting Small Satellite (2024) Intuitive Machines 3 - NASA Lunar Lander and Rovers (2024) Chang'e 6 - CNSA (China) Lunar Sample Return Mission (2024) Chang'e 7 - CNSA (China) Lunar Survey Mission (2026) Chang'e 8 - CNSA (China) Lunar Technology Test Mission (TBD)<snip>
Chandrayaan 3 launched.Next up should be Luna 25 on August 10th according to wikipedia.
There is also a list on a NASA page: https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/planets/moonpage.htmlThey give the future missions as:Future Missions Peregrine Mission 1 - NASA CLPS Lunar Lander (2023) Luna 25 - Roscosmos (Russia) Lunar Lander (2023) IM-1 - NASA CLPS Lunar Lander (2023) SLIM - JAXA (Japan) Lunar Lander (2023) Prime 1 - NASA CLPS Lunar Lander (2023) Cislunar Explorers - NASA Technology Test CubeSats (TBD) Masten Mission 1 - NASA CLPS Lunar Lander (2023) Griffin Mission 1 - VIPER - NASA Lunar South Pole Rover (2024) Lunar Trailblazer - NASA Lunar Orbiting Small Satellite (2024) Intuitive Machines 3 - NASA Lunar Lander and Rovers (2024) Chang'e 6 - CNSA (China) Lunar Sample Return Mission (2024) Chang'e 7 - CNSA (China) Lunar Survey Mission (2026) Chang'e 8 - CNSA (China) Lunar Technology Test Mission (TBD)
I would be very dubious about this. The article is much more about Doge-1 than IM-1 and IM's website doesn't mention the date. Doge-1 is - can I say 'stupid' on the internet? Well, here goes... it's stupid. When Intuitive announces a date we can take it seriously. I would expect somewhere around December at the earliest.
Not quite so clear now. It looks like the Astrobotic launch is delayed to January 8, 2024, just a few days before Intuitive Machines. If Astrobotic follows the same kind of c. 30 day flight it had planned before, the landing is delayed, but if it follows a shorter path, as its payload users guide says it can, the landing might still happen on the 25th. At any rate the next landing attempt will be SLIM on Jan. 19 or 20th.
The above post still looks pretty good, amazingly. We do have dates, roughly 15 March for Queqiao 2 and May 2 for Chang'e 6. After that, where are we? IM-2 looks like going to very late in the year as lessons from IM-1 are applied. So maybe Firefly's CLPS mission will come in before it, but I haven't seen anything about its launch date. Also late in the year might be ispace's Hakuto-R Mission 2 (Resilience). But the order is not known, and I could well imagine most or all of those 3 going into 2025.
IM-3 (Reiner Gamma)
This looks good! I expect VIPER and Beresheet 2 will be delayed, VIPER as decisions are made about the lander and Beresheet 2 for its funding difficulties.
The payload for the 2026 Australian Artemis mission is apparently called "Roo-ver". And yes I hate every single person even vaguely involved in its naming.
Otherwise we are left with three other landers. Will they fly this year? In what order? All very uncertain so far. Does anyone have any other news to report on this?
“The technical improvements for IM-2 are vertically integrated capabilities within the company that we can perform with little or no impact on our intended quarter 4 2024 launch date or require any additional capital investment while we continue assembly of the flight vehicle.”