Quote from: jcm on 05/17/2024 01:44 pmNo NOTAM for a 4th stage deorbit, right?We may see more objects cataloged today, but if not, perhaps the orbit insertion was done by thesatellite's own propulsion? (like the US-A EORSATs back in the day)I think this is the basis for speculation of upper stage used?Quote from: B. Hendrickx on 05/13/2024 05:23 pmThis is also standard for a Soyuz-2.1a/1b launch to polar orbit, but what is definitely not is a NOTAM for the Pacific Ocean that is clearly related to this launch (posted by Marco Langbroek on the SeeSat forum): QuoteNAVAREA XII 330/24(18).EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS 2000Z TO 2300Z DAILY 16 THRU 26 MAY IN AREA BOUND BY 29-21.00N 126-46.00W, 29-50.00N 128-52.00W, 24-22.00N 130-24.00W, 23-53.00N 128-15.00W.2. CANCEL THIS MSG 270001Z MAY 24.This is an area some 1000 km from the US West Coast. The only logical explanation is that it is the impact zone for the third stage, meaning that it is suborbital and that the Soyuz-2 will need a Fregat upper stage to place the payload into orbit. This would be a first for a Soyuz-2 launch into this type of orbit from Plesetsk.
No NOTAM for a 4th stage deorbit, right?We may see more objects cataloged today, but if not, perhaps the orbit insertion was done by thesatellite's own propulsion? (like the US-A EORSATs back in the day)
This is also standard for a Soyuz-2.1a/1b launch to polar orbit, but what is definitely not is a NOTAM for the Pacific Ocean that is clearly related to this launch (posted by Marco Langbroek on the SeeSat forum): QuoteNAVAREA XII 330/24(18).EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS 2000Z TO 2300Z DAILY 16 THRU 26 MAY IN AREA BOUND BY 29-21.00N 126-46.00W, 29-50.00N 128-52.00W, 24-22.00N 130-24.00W, 23-53.00N 128-15.00W.2. CANCEL THIS MSG 270001Z MAY 24.This is an area some 1000 km from the US West Coast. The only logical explanation is that it is the impact zone for the third stage, meaning that it is suborbital and that the Soyuz-2 will need a Fregat upper stage to place the payload into orbit. This would be a first for a Soyuz-2 launch into this type of orbit from Plesetsk.
NAVAREA XII 330/24(18).EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS 2000Z TO 2300Z DAILY 16 THRU 26 MAY IN AREA BOUND BY 29-21.00N 126-46.00W, 29-50.00N 128-52.00W, 24-22.00N 130-24.00W, 23-53.00N 128-15.00W.2. CANCEL THIS MSG 270001Z MAY 24.
Update: Bob Christy on twitter (@orbital_focus) suggests there was Fregat deorbit in the Indian Ocean10 hours after launch (I would say probably around 0800 UTC in fact). Does anyone know of a NOTAMthat would support that report?
Only one object so far but 2024-092A/59773 has been found in a 436 x 451 km x 97.25° orbit.
To add an intrigue, Sputnix has announced today's launch fo six commercial spacecraft, namely two Zorkiy-2M and four SITRO-AIS.
Запущены Зоркий-2М #4 и #6, SITRO-AIS ##53-56
More interesting is that the Local Time at the Descending Node is 13:00 making it coplanar with USA 314 (48247/2021-032A) a US government/military imaging satellite.Earlier launches matching US spysats were Cosmos 2542 in the same plane as USA-245, and the ongoing Cosmos 2558 mission currently 'shadowing' USA-326.
Bob's observation is interesting indeed. Currently the orbit of KOSMOS 2576 is clearly lower than that of USA 314, but RAAN and inclination are indeed very close (0.02 and 0.8 deg resp). It will be very interesting to see if Kosmos 2576 will raise its orbit at some point. In the current still preliminary orbit it makes approaches to USA 314 at ~340 km distance each 1.4 days.
Video appears to show a vehicle no. of 7705373 on the upper stage
So, a tally:objects source size1x Kosmos 2576 RosCosmos large? 3x Rassvet Telegram message large2x Zorkiy 2M Sputnix 12U4x SITRO-AIS Sputnix 3UThat is 10 satellites, 6 bof which are cubesats.How certain is it that there were 3 Razbegs as well?
How certain is it that there were 3 Razbegs as well?
GROUP ORBIT (km) INC PERIOD OBJECT(S) possible IDI 451 x 435 97.25 93.45 A KOSMOS 2576II 796 x 780 98.59 100.62 G,H,J RassvetIIIa 552 x 532 97.59 95.52 D,E,F,K SITRO-AISIIIb 548 x 531 97.59 95.45 B,C Zorkiy 2M
(1) launch into 97.24 inclined, 435 x 451 km orbit, insertion of object A (primary payload);(2) manoeuver up into 98.59 inclined, 780 x 796 km orbit, insertion of objects G,H,J (secondary payloads);(3) manoever down into 97.59 inclined, 535 x 552 km orbit, insertion of objects D,E,F,K;(4) slightly lower apogee, no inclination change, 531 x 548 km orbit, insertion of objects B,C;(5) Fregat stage deorbit reentry ~10h 20m after launch.