Author Topic: Proton-M/Briz-M - Luch-5X [Olimp-K] - Baikonur - 12 March 2023 - 23:12:59.981UT  (Read 73309 times)

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Olimp-K was ordered by Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB), according to an article written by Ivan Sarfonov for the "Kommersant" newspaper in 2014.
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2436687
That was back in the days when Russian journalists still had the liberty to write about things like this. Sarfonov is now serving a 22-year prison sentence after having been arrested by that very same FSB in 2020 on charges of state treason (unrelated to this article).   
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It's not MoD satellite.
It's predecessor satellite received a Kosmos designation issued at the direction of the MoD its cover role as civilian Luch Satellite was busted when it has spent its whole mission eavesdropping very close to foreign commercial telecom sats with known government customers including state and defence.

As far as I can remember, the first one didn't receive a Kosmos designation :

Kosmos 2500 was launched on Jun 14th, 2014.
Luch/Olimp-K was launched on Sep 27th, 2014.
Kosmos 2501 was launched on Nov 30th, 2014.
« Last Edit: 03/08/2023 07:07 pm by Bean Kenobi »

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It's not MoD satellite.
It's predecessor satellite received a Kosmos designation issued at the direction of the MoD its cover role as civilian Luch Satellite was busted when it has spent its whole mission eavesdropping very close to foreign commercial telecom sats with known government customers including state and defence.

As far as I can remember, the first one didn't receive a Kosmos designation :

Kosmos 2500 was launched on Jun 14th, 2014.
Luch/Olimp-K was launched on Sep 27th, 2014.
Kosmos 2501 was launched on Nov 30th, 2014.
https://russianspaceweb.com/olymp.html
Scroll to the bottom of the What's in the name? section. Yes there is an unresolved Kosmos designation conflict. The satellite fleet is FSB owned and is the user but the MoD is contracted to oversee the spacecrafts on orbit operations and maintenance. It is a very similar albeit reversed arrangement with US DoD use of NOAA weather satellites, see the EWS-G programme.
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Anatoly Zak claims the first satellite was eventually called Kosmos-2501, but doesn't give a source for that (and the page in question hasn't been updated since 2015). Press reports at the time simply called it Luch and that is also how Russia officially registered it with the United Nations, which in the end is all that counts. The satellite registered as Kosmos-2501 was a Glonass-K satellite. The fact that the first satellite didn't get a Kosmos designation would support the idea that it is owned not by the MoD, but by the FSB. It'll be interesting to see how the second one is officially named.

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Anatoly Zak claims the first satellite was eventually called Kosmos-2501, but doesn't give a source for that (and the page in question hasn't been updated since 2015). Press reports at the time simply called it Luch and that is also how Russia officially registered it with the United Nations, which in the end is all that counts. The satellite registered as Kosmos-2501 was a Glonass-K satellite. The fact that the first satellite didn't get a Kosmos designation would support the idea that it is owned not by the MoD, but by the FSB. It'll be interesting to see how the second one is officially named.
I never said that it was own by the MoD. I said that it is operated by MoD for FSB..

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If the launch is still schedule for the 12th, then rollout should have taken place today. So, possibly was delayed.

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There will be no information about rollout.
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There will be no information about rollout.
Done!
https://t.me/roscosmos_press/957

https://rosguard.gov.ru/News/Article/sotrudniki-rosgvardii-obespechili-bezopasnost-transportirovki-raketynositelya-protonm-na-kosmodrome-bajkonur
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Federal Service of the National Guard Troops

Employees of the Russian Guard ensured the safety of transportation of the Proton-M launch vehicle at the Baikonur Cosmodrome – News of the Russian Guard.

Employees of the private security guards of the Main Directorate of the Russian Guard in the Moscow Region, deployed on the territory of the Baikonur complex, ensured the safety of transporting the Proton-M launch vehicle, the Breeze-M upper stage and the spacecraft...
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https://19rusinfo.ru/obshchestvo/35517-oblomki-rakety-nositelya-proton-m-upadut-v-khakasii
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Fragments of the Proton-M launch vehicle will fall in Khakassia
  09 March 2023 15:23
According to the branch of TsENKI JSC - Yuzhny CC, the launch of the Proton-M launch vehicle with the Luch-5X spacecraft is scheduled for March 13 at 02 h. 13 min. 00 sec. Moscow time from the Baikonur Cosmodrome.

Reserve dates and Moscow launch time:
03/14/2023 at 02 h. 11 min, 00 sec;
03/15/2023 at 02 h. 10 min. 00 sec.;
03/16/2023 at 02 h. 08 min. 00 sec.;
03/17/2023 at 02 h. 06 min. 00 sec.
To receive the second stage and the wings of the head fairing of the launch vehicle, it is planned to use the impact area No. 326, located in the municipality of the Tashtypsky district, the Ministry of Natural Resources and Ecology of the Republic of Kharkiv reports.
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Will it be launched from 81/23 ("left")?

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Will it be launched from 81/23 ("left")?
81/24 is the only Proton-M pad at Site 81. 81/23 is flooded and mothballed for many decades since its last launch.

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https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1634105898804051970

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#ProtonM with Briz-M upper stage and Luch-5X satellite has been rolled out on March 9 on Baikonur. The launch is scheduled for March 12, 23:13 UTC. The rollout wasn’t announced by Roscosmos, because it’s a military satellite. The launch won’t be probably streamed too.

Different launch time?

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https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1634105898804051970

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#ProtonM with Briz-M upper stage and Luch-5X satellite has been rolled out on March 9 on Baikonur. The launch is scheduled for March 12, 23:13 UTC. The rollout wasn’t announced by Roscosmos, because it’s a military satellite. The launch won’t be probably streamed too.

Different launch time?

It's according to this:

https://19rusinfo.ru/obshchestvo/35517-oblomki-rakety-nositelya-proton-m-upadut-v-khakasii
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Fragments of the Proton-M launch vehicle will fall in Khakassia
  09 March 2023 15:23
According to the branch of TsENKI JSC - Yuzhny CC, the launch of the Proton-M launch vehicle with the Luch-5X spacecraft is scheduled for March 13 at 02 h. 13 min. 00 sec. Moscow time from the Baikonur Cosmodrome.

Reserve dates and Moscow launch time:
03/14/2023 at 02 h. 11 min, 00 sec;
03/15/2023 at 02 h. 10 min. 00 sec.;
03/16/2023 at 02 h. 08 min. 00 sec.;
03/17/2023 at 02 h. 06 min. 00 sec.
To receive the second stage and the wings of the head fairing of the launch vehicle, it is planned to use the impact area No. 326, located in the municipality of the Tashtypsky district, the Ministry of Natural Resources and Ecology of the Republic of Kharkiv reports.
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Will it be launched from 81/23 ("left")?
81/24 is the only Proton-M pad at Site 81. 81/23 is flooded and mothballed for many decades since its last launch.

Flooded?? Underwater?
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One might hope for a NOTAM for the thrird stage impact in the Pacific?
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Will it be launched from 81/23 ("left")?
81/24 is the only Proton-M pad at Site 81. 81/23 is flooded and mothballed for many decades since its last launch.

Flooded?? Underwater?
I don't think the now-defunct Site 81/23 became underwater, even though it was reportedly flooded (Pad 81/23 had been slowly stripped of equipment to provide spare parts for renovations of Pad 81/24).

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Will it be launched from 81/23 ("left")?
81/24 is the only Proton-M pad at Site 81. 81/23 is flooded and mothballed for many decades since its last launch.

Flooded?? Underwater?
I don't think the now-defunct Site 81/23 became underwater, even though it was reportedly flooded (Pad 81/23 had been slowly stripped of equipment to provide spare parts for renovations of Pad 81/24).

I've noticed translations from Russian sometimes say 'flooded' when they mean something else, so perhaps this is a translation issue.
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https://tass.ru/kosmos/17246685

TASS confirms successful orbit insertion by the Proton-M/Briz-M and calls the satellite "Luch-5X" (not clear if that is Latin "X" or Cyrillic "Kh"). It says it is part of the Luch data relay system, which is, of course, just a cover story for the satellite's true mission.

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https://www.roscosmos.ru/39031/
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Launch vehicle "Proton-M" launched from the Baikonur Cosmodrome

Today at 02:12:59.981 Moscow time, the Proton-M launch vehicle with the Breeze-M upper stage and the Luch-5X spacecraft was launched from the 200th site of the Baikonur Cosmodrome.
The carrier rocket worked in the normal mode, the upper stage separated from the third stage of the rocket and puts the satellite into a given orbit.
This is the fourth launch of Russian space rockets in 2023. For "Proton-M" this flight was the 115th, for "Breeze-M" - the 107th in history.
The launch vehicle and upper stage were manufactured by the State Space Research and Production Center named after M.V. Khrunichev (part of the Roscosmos State Corporation).
The Proton-M launch vehicle has been used since 2001 to launch payloads into various near-Earth orbits and departure trajectories within the framework of federal and commercial programs. Over the two decades of operation, it has gone through four phases of deep modernization, which made it possible to significantly improve its energy-mass and environmental characteristics. Today's launch was the 429th launch of the Proton family of rockets since 1965.

 

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