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Russian Orbital Station (ROS) Development
« on: 04/30/2021 06:53 pm »
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Roscosmos discusses ISS withdrawal strategy and new space station for mid-2020s
written by Katya Pavlushchenko April 30, 2021

Recently, Russian authorities began talking about a potential withdrawal from the International Space Station (ISS) project in 2025. In place of ISS, the Russian space industry would gain ROSS – a new orbital station that’s name stands for Russian Orbital Service Station.

According to Roscosmos representatives, the withdrawal from the ISS will be gradual, which means that for some time the ISS and ROSS will work in space in parallel. At the same time, Russia and China have plans to build a lunar space station together.

Congratulations to Katya on her first NSF article!
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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #1 on: 04/30/2021 08:59 pm »
Great article!

I am skeptical that ROSS will happen (due to lack of proper funding), but I hope they can make it a reality. It would be cool to have a 3rd space stations in orbit at the same time, and it being in polar orbit as well.  :)
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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #2 on: 04/30/2021 09:23 pm »
I am skeptical that ROSS will happen (due to lack of proper funding), but I hope they can make it a reality. It would be cool to have a 3rd space stations in orbit at the same time, and it being in polar orbit as well.  :)

Maintaining a station in polar orbit seems like a stretch for Russia. From what I know about Soyuz, it can't put more than six tons or so into polar orbit. That seriously limits their ability to send cargo and crew in a progress/soyuz. And surely even Russia realises its a bit optimistic to relay on chainging their logistics flights from the Soyuz 2 to Soyuz 5 or Angara in the next four years.


I also found it intresting that they don't see Nauka having a lifetime much longer than a few years on orbit. For a project that has been so agonisingly slow on the ground, thats a really poor return on investment.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #3 on: 04/30/2021 09:37 pm »
I am skeptical that ROSS will happen (due to lack of proper funding), but I hope they can make it a reality. It would be cool to have a 3rd space stations in orbit at the same time, and it being in polar orbit as well.  :)

Maintaining a station in polar orbit seems like a stretch for Russia. From what I know about Soyuz, it can't put more than six tons or so into polar orbit. That seriously limits their ability to send cargo and crew in a progress/soyuz. And surely even Russia realises its a bit optimistic to relay on chainging their logistics flights from the Soyuz 2 to Soyuz 5 or Angara in the next four years.

According to the article, they would be using a different variant of the Soyuz launcher for these polar flights - (Soyuz 2.1b instead of Soyuz-FG, which has a 1.3t increased capacity to ISS orbit) - so it would likely be doable but with tight margins.

But yes, the actual benefit of a polar station is questionable indeed, so it might not be worth the upgrades to fully human-rate the Soyuz 2.1b.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #4 on: 04/30/2021 10:41 pm »
I am skeptical that ROSS will happen (due to lack of proper funding), but I hope they can make it a reality. It would be cool to have a 3rd space stations in orbit at the same time, and it being in polar orbit as well.  :)

Maintaining a station in polar orbit seems like a stretch for Russia. From what I know about Soyuz, it can't put more than six tons or so into polar orbit. That seriously limits their ability to send cargo and crew in a progress/soyuz. And surely even Russia realises its a bit optimistic to relay on chainging their logistics flights from the Soyuz 2 to Soyuz 5 or Angara in the next four years.

According to the article, they would be using a different variant of the Soyuz launcher for these polar flights - (Soyuz 2.1b instead of Soyuz-FG, which has a 1.3t increased capacity to ISS orbit) - so it would likely be doable but with tight margins.

But yes, the actual benefit of a polar station is questionable indeed, so it might not be worth the upgrades to fully human-rate the Soyuz 2.1b.
Lower construction orbit than ISS negates most of the loss. In 2030 Soyuz and Progress spacecraft end there last flights and the next gen vehicles take over. It is only needed for half a decade.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #5 on: 05/01/2021 02:21 am »
First there was OPSEK, and now there is ROSS.  Something tells me that there will be another brilliant idea before they deliver anything to orbit.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #6 on: 05/01/2021 08:24 am »
First there was OPSEK, and now there is ROSS.  Something tells me that there will be another brilliant idea before they deliver anything to orbit.

You’re not the only person who’s sceptical about ROSS:

https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1388218584791457793

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The whole "independent Russian space station" scenario feels very, very much like a play by Roscosmos to force NASA to pay for keeping the Russian segment of the International Space Station going. A drop-in replacement for the loss of Soyuz seat money, if you will.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #7 on: 05/01/2021 04:03 pm »
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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #8 on: 05/01/2021 04:25 pm »
Even at this stage the plan is that the station won't be permanently manned, this seems like a downgrade from ISS or even MIR.

I don't understand what Russia is hoping to accomplish with ISS withdrawal, it seems like even their most optimistic scenarios would leave their capabilities diminished.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #9 on: 05/01/2021 05:41 pm »
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I don't understand what Russia is hoping to accomplish with ISS withdrawal, it seems like even their most optimistic scenarios would leave their capabilities diminished.

The main module Zvezda has cracks.  The outer shell can possibly be patched / sealed but not repaired.
The rest of the russian part of the ISS has little scientific use.
I think the use by 2025 is already optimistic.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #10 on: 05/01/2021 06:44 pm »
Any way to congratulate Katya on her article? Very nice and informative, indeed.
Regarding ROSS, as much as I've seen too many Russian paper projects when they lack external funding, I'm also noting that this station would do away with all soviet legacy systems. Also, they seem to have put everything on RSC Energia's hands. It might just be, that this will be a cheaper station.
A lot more automation, no permanent crews, smaller and newer systems, etc. I don't want to know how much expenses has Nakua generated for trying to reuse Soviet hardware. Also, I might have some personal bias against Khrunichev capabilities to deliver.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #11 on: 05/02/2021 03:11 am »
Even at this stage the plan is that the station won't be permanently manned, this seems like a downgrade from ISS or even MIR.

I don't understand what Russia is hoping to accomplish with ISS withdrawal, it seems like even their most optimistic scenarios would leave their capabilities diminished.

To be fair, NASA plans to ditch ISS not long after 2025 and handover LEO to commercial space stations, so it's not crazy for Russia to start planning for a post-ISS future. It's safe to say the Russians don't want to buy seats on US commercial stations, and the Chinese gave them the cold shoulder, this doesn't leave them a lot of choices.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #12 on: 05/02/2021 09:25 am »

To be fair, NASA plans to ditch ISS not long after 2025 and handover LEO to commercial space stations, so it's not crazy for Russia to start planning for a post-ISS future. It's safe to say the Russians don't want to buy seats on US commercial stations, and the Chinese gave them the cold shoulder, this doesn't leave them a lot of choices.

In my mind, the play Russia should have made was to be an alternative to the likes of Axiom. Set up a new station with the goal of attracting the ISS partners, and their resources, to continue research in a smaller maybe 3 crewed continually setting. Without some form of outside investment, I don't see how Russia has any hope of continuing its incredibly impressive streak of crewed spaceflight. But thats just my opinion, as we all know, prestige and apperances matter more to the likes of Rogozin than technical merit does.

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I don't see Russia giving permit to Axiom if they viewed ISS and LG as too US-centric. And I don't think the US government would like that too much anyway.

But if Russia sees LG as too US-centric, then they ain't seen nothing yet if they see the alternative as being partnering with with People's Republic of China. They're going to get played.

And that presumes they can even deliver their components on time. Which, history proves, they have a lot more difficulty doing than the US or Chinese military-industrial complexes, much less US non-military commercial pursuits (SpaceX, Blue Origin, et al).

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #14 on: 05/06/2021 10:42 am »
Barely has ROSS been officially announced, or we're already seeing two different configurations of the station in RKK Energiya slides circulating on the web. Considering the dozens of changes that the ISS Russian segment went through since its inception, this is probably just the beginning of another long evolutionary path.

In version 1 (see attachment) we see the following elements:
-base module
-node module
-airlock module
-logistics module
-production module
-servicing platform
-commercial module

Version 2 (see attachment) consists of the following elements:
-scientific power module (NEM) (phase 1)
-base module (phase 1)
-node module (phase 1)
-airlock module (phase 1)
-logistics module (phase 2)
-production module (phase 2)
-servicing platform (phase 2)
-special-purpose module (phase 2)

Version 1 is seen in this article published about two weeks ago:
https://severnymayak.ru/2021/04/21/v-rkk-energiya-pokazali-kak-mogut-vyglyadet-moduli-novoj-rossijskoj-kosmicheskoj-stancii/
The slides seem to come from the RIA Novosti news agency, but they do have the RKK Energiya logo.

Version 2 is seen in a recent presentation by Vladimir Solovyov at a meeting of the Academy of Sciences and in a recent TV report aired from RKK Energiya. I presume this is now considered the “prime” version. 

I’ve also attached slides of most of the individual modules:

SCIENTIFIC POWER MODULE (NEM) / BASE MODULE
-to be launched by Angara-A5 from Plesetsk or Vostochnyy
- they look identical and have the same functions (the most important ones being power supply and provision of crew quarters). In version 2, NEM is described as the first element and needed “to ensure control of the station until the arrival of the base module”. Presumably, the second, nearly identical module is needed to increase crew capacity and power supply.

AIRLOCK MODULE:
-to be delivered by a Progress-M-UM tug launched by Soyuz-2.1b from either Plesetsk or Vostochnyy
-provides EVA capability

LOGISTICS MODULE:
-two versions are proposed, one based on the NEM design (requiring launch by an Angara-A5 from Plesetsk or Vostochnyy) and the other a smaller vehicle with an inflatable cargo section (delivered by a Progress tug launched by Soyuz-2.1b from Plesetsk or Vostochnyy)
-to be used for storage of equipment and supplies. The bigger version can house “payloads for free-flying satellites” and “large structures to be assembled on the outer surface of the station”. The smaller inflatable version could house equipment needed for physical exercises.

PRODUCTION MODULE:
-based on the NEM design and launched by Angara-A5 from Plesetsk or Vostochnyy
-among its functions are assembly of satellites, production of various parts using a 3D printer,  production of materials that cannot be obtained in gravity conditions, remote sensing (both an optical telescope and a radar are seen mounted on the outside of the module)

SERVICING PLATFORM:
-to be delivered by a Progress-M-UM tug launched by Angara-A5 from Plesetsk or Vostochnyy
-to be used for servicing of satellites (replacement and repair of components, refueling satellites with UDMH, N2O4, xenon, helium and krypton, recharging satellites using the energy resources of the base module) , launch of small satellites, assembly of large structures such as antennas, telescopes and mirrors, station attitude control using control moment gyroscopes

COMMERCIAL MODULE:
-based on the NEM design and to be launched by Angara-A5 from Vostochnyy
-will provide comfortable living quarters for “spaceflight participants” (that is tourists) and will also house commercial experiments. The “commercial module” in version 1 may be the same module that is described as the “special-purpose module” in version 2.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #15 on: 05/06/2021 05:03 pm »
Barely has ROSS been officially announced, or we're already seeing two different configurations of the station in RKK Energiya slides circulating on the web. Considering the dozens of changes that the ISS Russian segment went through since its inception, this is probably just the beginning of another long evolutionary path.

In version 1 (see attachment) we see the following elements:
-base module
-node module
-airlock module
-logistics module
-production module
-servicing platform
-commercial module

Version 2 (see attachment) consists of the following elements:
-scientific power module (NEM) (phase 1)
-base module (phase 1)
-node module (phase 1)
-airlock module (phase 1)
-logistics module (phase 2)
-production module (phase 2)
-servicing platform (phase 2)
-special-purpose module (phase 2)

Version 1 is seen in this article published about two weeks ago:
https://severnymayak.ru/2021/04/21/v-rkk-energiya-pokazali-kak-mogut-vyglyadet-moduli-novoj-rossijskoj-kosmicheskoj-stancii/
The slides seem to come from the RIA Novosti news agency, but they do have the RKK Energiya logo.

Version 2 is seen in a recent presentation by Vladimir Solovyov at a meeting of the Academy of Sciences and in a recent TV report aired from RKK Energiya. I presume this is now considered the “prime” version. 

I’ve also attached slides of most of the individual modules:

SCIENTIFIC POWER MODULE (NEM) / BASE MODULE
-to be launched by Angara-A5 from Plesetsk or Vostochnyy
- they look identical and have the same functions (the most important ones being power supply and provision of crew quarters). In version 2, NEM is described as the first element and needed “to ensure control of the station until the arrival of the base module”. Presumably, the second, nearly identical module is needed to increase crew capacity and power supply.

AIRLOCK MODULE:
-to be delivered by a Progress-M-UM tug launched by Soyuz-2.1b from either Plesetsk or Vostochnyy
-provides EVA capability

LOGISTICS MODULE:
-two versions are proposed, one based on the NEM design (requiring launch by an Angara-A5 from Plesetsk or Vostochnyy) and the other a smaller vehicle with an inflatable cargo section (delivered by a Progress tug launched by Soyuz-2.1b from Plesetsk or Vostochnyy)
-to be used for storage of equipment and supplies. The bigger version can house “payloads for free-flying satellites” and “large structures to be assembled on the outer surface of the station”. The smaller inflatable version could house equipment needed for physical exercises.

PRODUCTION MODULE:
-based on the NEM design and launched by Angara-A5 from Plesetsk or Vostochnyy
-among its functions are assembly of satellites, production of various parts using a 3D printer,  production of materials that cannot be obtained in gravity conditions, remote sensing (both an optical telescope and a radar are seen mounted on the outside of the module)

SERVICING PLATFORM:
-to be delivered by a Progress-M-UM tug launched by Angara-A5 from Plesetsk or Vostochnyy
-to be used for servicing of satellites (replacement and repair of components, refueling satellites with UDMH, N2O4, xenon, helium and krypton, recharging satellites using the energy resources of the base module) , launch of small satellites, assembly of large structures such as antennas, telescopes and mirrors, station attitude control using control moment gyroscopes

COMMERCIAL MODULE:
-based on the NEM design and to be launched by Angara-A5 from Vostochnyy
-will provide comfortable living quarters for “spaceflight participants” (that is tourists) and will also house commercial experiments. The “commercial module” in version 1 may be the same module that is described as the “special-purpose module” in version 2.

There are several proposed configurations with optional modules and external platforms on the table. Anatoly Zak goes into details on his site. The two variants shown were shown in recent meeting to a military oversight commission.

http://russianspaceweb.com/ros.html some links inside require a subscription at this time.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #16 on: 05/06/2021 08:36 pm »

There are several proposed configurations with optional modules and external platforms on the table. Anatoly Zak goes into details on his site. The two variants shown were shown in recent meeting to a military oversight commission.

http://russianspaceweb.com/ros.html some links inside require a subscription at this time.

Actually, all the recent ROSS updates on the website are subscription-only, so I guess there is still something new here for people who are not behind that paywall.

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« Reply #17 on: 05/07/2021 02:14 am »
Yep, I have trouble between my country's PayPal and his subscription and I really miss all his great work.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #18 on: 05/07/2021 03:01 am »
Of course with ISS we think principally of those huge old photovoltaic arrays and the new iROSA add-ons on the truss. But with ROSS we suddenly get to ask: how's the Russian photovoltaic industry doing? Are there good extant examples of what they're likely to be fielding (or spacing, as the case may be)?
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« Reply #19 on: 07/31/2021 02:34 pm »
One module was docked to the ISS, now we are preparing the next.

Today, the nodal module # Berth went to the Baikonur cosmodrome. Its launch into orbit as part of the Progress M-UM cargo vehicle-module is planned for November 2021.

https://twitter.com/roscosmos/status/1421463419786600451

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« Reply #20 on: 07/31/2021 03:05 pm »
I understand this is a module being proposed for the new Russian space station ("modul-stapel" in Russian).
See the ROSS thread:

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=53721.0

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« Reply #21 on: 07/31/2021 03:52 pm »
I understand this is a module being proposed for the new Russian space station ("modul-stapel" in Russian).
See the ROSS thread:

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=53721.0

Spare science airlock module shell is available for ROSS
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« Reply #22 on: 08/01/2021 08:52 am »
One module was docked to the ISS, now we are preparing the next.

Today, the nodal module # Berth went to the Baikonur cosmodrome. Its launch into orbit as part of the Progress M-UM cargo vehicle-module is planned for November 2021.

https://twitter.com/roscosmos/status/1421463419786600451
Progress M UM flies to the ISS, not to the planned ROSS station.
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« Reply #23 on: 08/01/2021 01:33 pm »
Progress M UM flies to the ISS, not to the planned ROSS station

It was not planned to fly to ROSS, for ROSS new UM and new Progress are planned (if…).

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« Reply #24 on: 08/16/2021 11:53 pm »
AFAIK; The module shown in the tweet is the Prichal (Nodal) module that will be mounted to MLM; Nauka nadir.
I've written a long post in the Russia pullout of ISS by 2025 [ISS] topic. I was wrong there about reusing russian ISS modules for ROSS. But Prichal allows keeping the newer Russian modules at the ISS, while ditching FGB (Zarya) and SM (Zvezda), though it's not likely.

ROSS looks to have an identical module. And the Airlock and external payload module (with payload airlock)[Slipway] look to reuse the spherical structure. They have a cylindrical segment or the external segment added to it. I think it's a smart design.

I actually like the idea of an optionally manned SSO station. Crew at the ISS is losing a lot of time maintaining the ECLSS systems, especially for their needs. So operating unmanned/ remote controlled with internal robotics allows a lot of science to be performed.
I remember a DLR paper from a couple of years back; where they put all the functions into one module. (Base/NEM and external experiments module (with payload airlock). So the ROSS concepts are in my opinion already large for a optionally manned station. ROSS looks capable of sustaining crew for long duration.
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« Reply #25 on: 08/17/2021 12:01 am »
AFAIK; The module shown in the tweet is the Prichal (Nodal) module that will be mounted to MLM; Nauka nadir.
I've written a long post in the Russia pullout of ISS by 2025 [ISS] topic. I was wrong there about reusing russian ISS modules for ROSS. But Prichal allows keeping the newer Russian modules at the ISS, while ditching FGB (Zarya) and SM (Zvezda), though it's not likely.

I actually like the idea of an optionally manned SSO station. Crew at the ISS is losing a lot of time maintaining the ECLSS systems, especially for their needs. So operating unmanned/ remote controlled with internal robotics allows a lot of science to be performed.
I remember a DLR paper from a couple of years back; where they put all the functions into one module. (Base/NEM and external experiments module (with payload airlock). So the ROSS concepts are in my opinion already large for a optionally manned station. ROSS looks capable of sustaining crew for long duration.
The one in the tweet can unofficially be referred to as UM-1, which has an ungrided pressure shell and the one with the redesigned ortho/iso/hexogrided (i forget which pattern they ultimately chose to machine) pressure shell which is now assigned to ROSS can unofficially be referred to as UM-2 for clarity.
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« Reply #26 on: 10/08/2021 02:05 am »
Disclaimer the following is Placeholder content until an equivalent NSF article is published which is not implied nor confirmed as planned to occur.

Russian station reaches preliminary design (subscription content):
http://russianspaceweb.com/protected/ros_2021.html#0921

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There are some photos taken by Katya Pavlushchenko of the hardware already built for ROSS. I don't believe these photos were posted here, so I'm sharing them.
https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1385582527788761090
https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1385591570213359617
An earlier tweet from Rogozin.
https://twitter.com/Rogozin/status/1338892358872600577

Also I remember seeing a photo of the Airlock Module assembled at RKK Energia on a Russian forum but I have to find it.
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« Reply #28 on: 11/26/2021 03:50 pm »
AFAIK; The module shown in the tweet is the Prichal (Nodal) module that will be mounted to MLM; Nauka nadir.
I've written a long post in the Russia pullout of ISS by 2025 [ISS] topic. I was wrong there about reusing russian ISS modules for ROSS. But Prichal allows keeping the newer Russian modules at the ISS, while ditching FGB (Zarya) and SM (Zvezda), though it's not likely.

I actually like the idea of an optionally manned SSO station. Crew at the ISS is losing a lot of time maintaining the ECLSS systems, especially for their needs. So operating unmanned/ remote controlled with internal robotics allows a lot of science to be performed.
I remember a DLR paper from a couple of years back; where they put all the functions into one module. (Base/NEM and external experiments module (with payload airlock). So the ROSS concepts are in my opinion already large for a optionally manned station. ROSS looks capable of sustaining crew for long duration.
The one in the tweet can unofficially be referred to as UM-1, which has an ungrided pressure shell and the one with the redesigned ortho/iso/hexogrided (i forget which pattern they ultimately chose to machine) pressure shell which is now assigned to ROSS can unofficially be referred to as UM-2 for clarity.
UM-2 is still an internal designation however the official designation has been updated to Universal Node Module (UUM). The axial ports are convertible active passive ports.

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« Reply #29 on: 01/25/2022 04:05 pm »
Vladimir Solovyov, General Designer of the Energia Rocket and Space Corporation, presented the appearance and technical characteristics of the promising Russian Orbital Service Station, which will replace the Russian segment of the ISS.

https://twitter.com/roscosmos/status/1485976456538861572

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« Reply #30 on: 01/25/2022 04:10 pm »
Vladimir Solovyov, General Designer for Manned Space Systems and Complexes, spoke about the plans for the development of a manned program:

Russian orbital service station;
flight to the ISS in 2 hours;
flight testing of the new ship

https://twitter.com/roscosmos/status/1486014224203669507

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« Reply #31 on: 03/04/2022 04:01 am »
Slides are attached. Here's a translation of the last slide.

Possibilities of interaction of ROSS with automatic spacecraft

1 Apparatus "Inspector"
– Detection and inspection of approaching objects
– External inspection of station elements

2 Apparatus "Tugboat"
– Transportation of spacecraft for repair and refueling
– Their installation at the working point

3 High-speed communication devices
— Data transfer
– Relay of navigation signals

4 Universal Platform
— Development of new scientific and technical solutions
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #32 on: 03/11/2022 01:37 am »
Russia may launch the first module of its orbital station by 2026.

Rogozin: Russia can launch the first module of its orbital station by 2026.

03/10/2022 03:44 PM (updated: 03/10/2022 05:05 PM)

MOSCOW, March 10 - RIA Novosti. Russia can launch the first module of its orbital station as early as 2026, "if you push yourself hard," said Dmitry Rogozin, head of Roscosmos.

“Now, I think, if we push ourselves hard, then in 26 we could put the first module into orbit,” he said at a meeting with State Duma deputies from the Liberal Democratic Party .

As the head of the state corporation clarified, he does not consider the work on the ISS to be effective in the current conditions, and the Russian orbital station will be several times more efficient.

Earlier, Rogozin stated that the decision to extend the service of the station after 2024 had not yet been made, and without Russian participation, the station was doomed, as it had reached its deadline.

The head of the state corporation also expressed the opinion that the ISS could simply "fall apart" before 2030.

“So far we have government permission to work on the ISS until 2024. The United States has decided to work there until 2030. We believe that the station will fall apart by 2030. Its resource is 15 years. is he.

Earlier, Rogozin said that Roskosmos is responsible not only for the orientation of the ISS and for its withdrawal from dangerous collisions, but also for the delivery of fuel. According to him, if the government's decision to extend the operation until 2030 is not accepted from the Russian side, then "he does not know how the Americans will cope with the station."

https://ria.ru/20220310/kosmos-1777491159.html

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #33 on: 03/11/2022 02:34 am »
Russia may launch the first module of its orbital station by 2026.

Rogozin: Russia can launch the first module of its orbital station by 2026.

03/10/2022 03:44 PM (updated: 03/10/2022 05:05 PM)

MOSCOW, March 10 - RIA Novosti. Russia can launch the first module of its orbital station as early as 2026, "if you push yourself hard," said Dmitry Rogozin, head of Roscosmos.

“Now, I think, if we push ourselves hard, then in 26 we could put the first module into orbit,” he said at a meeting with State Duma deputies from the Liberal Democratic Party .

As the head of the state corporation clarified, he does not consider the work on the ISS to be effective in the current conditions, and the Russian orbital station will be several times more efficient.

Earlier, Rogozin stated that the decision to extend the service of the station after 2024 had not yet been made, and without Russian participation, the station was doomed, as it had reached its deadline.

The head of the state corporation also expressed the opinion that the ISS could simply "fall apart" before 2030.

“So far we have government permission to work on the ISS until 2024. The United States has decided to work there until 2030. We believe that the station will fall apart by 2030. Its resource is 15 years. is he.

Earlier, Rogozin said that Roskosmos is responsible not only for the orientation of the ISS and for its withdrawal from dangerous collisions, but also for the delivery of fuel. According to him, if the government's decision to extend the operation until 2030 is not accepted from the Russian side, then "he does not know how the Americans will cope with the station."

https://ria.ru/20220310/kosmos-1777491159.html
A diagram of the ROSS by Anatoly Zak shows the Nauka module being part of the ROSS, so there could be rumbling within Roscosmos about mating some the Russian modules of the ISS with the NEM when building the ROSS to save money.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #34 on: 03/11/2022 03:45 am »
Russia may launch the first module of its orbital station by 2026.

Rogozin: Russia can launch the first module of its orbital station by 2026.

03/10/2022 03:44 PM (updated: 03/10/2022 05:05 PM)

MOSCOW, March 10 - RIA Novosti. Russia can launch the first module of its orbital station as early as 2026, "if you push yourself hard," said Dmitry Rogozin, head of Roscosmos.

“Now, I think, if we push ourselves hard, then in 26 we could put the first module into orbit,” he said at a meeting with State Duma deputies from the Liberal Democratic Party .

As the head of the state corporation clarified, he does not consider the work on the ISS to be effective in the current conditions, and the Russian orbital station will be several times more efficient.

Earlier, Rogozin stated that the decision to extend the service of the station after 2024 had not yet been made, and without Russian participation, the station was doomed, as it had reached its deadline.

The head of the state corporation also expressed the opinion that the ISS could simply "fall apart" before 2030.

“So far we have government permission to work on the ISS until 2024. The United States has decided to work there until 2030. We believe that the station will fall apart by 2030. Its resource is 15 years. is he.

Earlier, Rogozin said that Roskosmos is responsible not only for the orientation of the ISS and for its withdrawal from dangerous collisions, but also for the delivery of fuel. According to him, if the government's decision to extend the operation until 2030 is not accepted from the Russian side, then "he does not know how the Americans will cope with the station."

https://ria.ru/20220310/kosmos-1777491159.html
A diagram of the ROSS by Anatoly Zak shows the Nauka module being part of the ROSS, so there could be rumbling within Roscosmos about mating some the Russian modules of the ISS with the NEM when building the ROSS to save money.
That graphic is out of date as ROSS will now launch into SSO (new preferred plan).

The SSO ROSS graphic for the selected 2021 and 2022 plan can be viewed in presentations and here (subscription required (PAYWALLED):
https://russianspaceweb.com/protected/spacecraft-manned-2022.html
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« Reply #35 on: 05/04/2022 12:58 pm »
Russian space firm to assist in creating new national orbital station.

Earlier, Russia’s Energia Space Rocket Corporation was assigned the task of making the first basic module for a new Russian orbital station ready in 2025.

4 MAY, 04:21

MOSCOW, May 4. /TASS/. The Khrunichev Center (part of Russia’s State Space Corporation Roscosmos) is ready to take part in creating a new Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS), Company CEO Alexey Varochko told TASS on Wednesday.

"If there is the need for our participation, we will, of course, offer with pleasure our capabilities for creating a new Russian station within the shortest time possible," the chief executive said.

The Khrunichev Center took part in creating actually all the modules for Soviet orbital stations and subsequently for the International Space Station, he recalled.

"The modules produced by our colleagues from the Energia Space Rocket Corporation, large-size structures were also finally assembled at our enterprise. We have retained both equipment and competences," the chief executive stressed.

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Yury Borisov announced in April 2021 that the condition of the International Space Station (ISS) left much to be desired and Russia might focus on creating its own orbital outpost. Russia’s Energia Space Rocket Corporation was assigned the task of making the first basic module for a new Russian orbital station ready in 2025. The new module will be based on a research and power unit that was previously intended for launch to the International Space Station in 2024.

The Roscosmos Scientific and Technical Council recommended that the work on creating the technical project of Russia’s new orbital station be included in the 2025 federal space program. In late February this year, Roscosmos Chief Dmitry Rogozin said that it would be hard to simultaneously implement the ISS project and the project of building a new national orbital outpost due to financial constraints. He also said it was necessary to stipulate some "overlapping period" when the ISS and the ROSS would operate simultaneously for some time.

https://tass.com/science/1446795

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« Reply #36 on: 05/05/2022 10:10 am »
Russia’s future orbital outpost to be protected from unauthorized access to control.

In April 2021, Deputy Prime Minister Yury Borisov said that Russia should focus on creating its own orbital outpost.

5 MAY, 01:58

MOSCOW, May 5. /TASS/. Any risk of unauthorized start of software responsible for running Russia’s future orbital station will be ruled out. This issue will enjoy close scrutiny during the sketch design phase, as follows from the terms of reference available on the state procurement website.

"On-board cyber resources must rule out the risk of unauthorized launch of control programs. The possibility of issuing unauthorized commands to the executive devices and onboard systems must be prevented likewise," the terms of reference say.

In April 2021, Deputy Prime Minister Yury Borisov said the condition of the ISS left much to be desired and for this reason Russia should focus on creating its own orbital outpost. The space rocket corporation Energia was tasked to deliver the first module of a future orbital station in 2025. The research and energy module that was originally meant for joining the ISS in 2024 will be used as its basis.

The science and research board of Russia’s space corporation Roscosmos issued recommendations to include creation of a technical project for a new orbital station in the 2025 Federal Space Program. At the end of February this year Roscosmos CEO Dmitry Rogozin said that going ahead with the ISS project and building a new orbital station at the same time would be problematic due to financial constraints. He suggested what he described as a "period of overlap", when the ISS and the Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) would be used simultaneously.

https://tass.com/science/1447201

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« Reply #37 on: 05/05/2022 12:24 pm »
Roscosmos, Energia space firm ink deal on conceptual design of new orbital outpost.

The work on the conceptual designing of a future Russian orbital station will include two stages.

5 MAY, 03:26

MOSCOW, May 5. /TASS/. The Russian space agency Roscosmos and the Energia Space Rocket Corporation signed a state contract on working out the conceptual design of a future national orbital station, according to materials posted on the government’s procurement website on Thursday.

"The general contractor shall undertake on an assignment from the customer to carry out R&D work titled: ‘Creating the Russian Orbital Station’s Space Complex,’" the state contract says.

The work under the state contract is required to be completed on March 31, 2024. The contract is worth almost 2.69 billion rubles (about $41 million).

As the Energia Space Rocket Corporation specified to TASS, the work on the future station’s conceptual design is already ongoing. "In April this year, Roscosmos and Energia signed a contract on working out the conceptual design of the Russian Orbital Station’s Space Complex and the Energia staff has already been carrying out work in this area for some time now on an instruction from the Roscosmos chief," the Energia press office said.

The work on the conceptual designing of a future Russian orbital station will include two stages. The first stage envisages analyzing the scenarios of the target orbit’s deployment and inclination, including the scenario of undocking operational modules of the Russian segment of the International Space Station (ISS).

Specialists have also calculated the cost of delivering 1 kg of cargo, the cost of deploying the station in its initial configuration and transferring space vehicles from the station’s orbit to the near-Moon orbit. This stage is due to be completed by June this year and its results will be examined by the Roscosmos Scientific and Technical Council.

As the technical assignment stipulates, the second stage will last until March 2024. It envisages working out the conceptual design and specifications of the orbital station based on the results of the first designing stage. Specialists will also study the issues of providing the new orbital station with communications, training cosmonauts, supplying medicines, the options of operation in the manned and unmanned modes, the use of robotic systems and other matters.

Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS)

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Yury Borisov announced in April 2021 that the condition of the International Space Station (ISS) left much to be desired and Russia might focus on creating its own orbital outpost. Russia’s Energia Space Rocket Corporation was assigned the task of making the first basic module for a new Russian orbital station ready in 2025. The new module will be based on a research and power unit that was previously intended for launch to the International Space Station in 2024.

The Roscosmos Scientific and Technical Council recommended that the work on creating the technical project of Russia’s new orbital station be included in the 2025 federal space program. In late February this year, Roscosmos Chief Dmitry Rogozin said that it would be hard to simultaneously implement the ISS project and the project of building a new national orbital outpost due to financial constraints. He also said it was necessary to stipulate some "overlapping period" when the ISS and the ROSS would operate simultaneously for some time.

https://tass.com/science/1447263


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« Reply #38 on: 05/06/2022 01:06 pm »

Specialists have also calculated the cost of delivering 1 kg of cargo, the cost of deploying the station in its initial configuration and transferring space vehicles from the station’s orbit to the near-Moon orbit. This stage is due to be completed by June this year and its results will be examined by the Roscosmos Scientific and Technical Council.


This reference to the connection between an earth orbital space station and lunar travel is intriguing. There is a concept explored by the Russians called the Ryuvok. Basically, this is a reusable human spacecraft based at an earth orbital space station. Crew travel to the orbital station using a Soyuz. They transfer to the Ryuvok to rendezvous and dock with a TLI stage (I presume some version of the KTVK). The craft then travels to lunar orbit, and returns to the earth orbital station via aerobraking.

Well, that is what I made of it at least, there are different variants, some of which use a HLV, you can find some presentations on the researchgate page of Rafail Murtazin:

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Rafail-Murtazin

I am not an aerospace engineer myself, but the Ryuvok seems like a neat concept to me. Especially if it can be made to work without a HLV. I think the HLV might be necessary for a lander, but both seem far out of reach for the Russians at present. I like the idea of the HLV not being necessary for that either.

Added 8 May, sorry it's called Ryvok, not Ryuvok, there was also an earlier thread on this concept:

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=40378.0
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« Reply #39 on: 05/07/2022 10:12 am »
Roskosmos and the Council of the Russian Academy of Sciences will discuss the orbit of the Russian orbital station.

Roskosmos and the RAS Space Council will discuss options for the orbit of the Russian orbital station.

13:05 07.05.2022

MOSCOW, May 7 - RIA Novosti. The first stage of work on the preliminary design of the Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) will be discussed on May 26 by Roscosmos together with the Space Council of the Russian Academy of Sciences, the main issue will be the choice of the inclination of the station's orbit, said the head of the state corporation Dmitry Rogozin.

"The Russian Orbital Service Station, abbreviated ROSS, of course, will be. On May 26, we are holding the presidium of the scientific and technical council of Roscosmos together with the council of the Russian Academy of Sciences on space ... And we will already discuss the first stage of work on preliminary design, primarily the so-called orbit inclination ", - he said on the air of the TV channel "Russia 24" .

The head of the state corporation emphasizes that active discussions will take place on May 26 on the choice of the ROSS orbit, which primarily consists in what will be visible from the station. According to him, two options are being considered - "a high-latitude station that will pass all points of the globe every two days and every one and a half hours it will be over the Arctic", or a station that will continue to work in the same orbit as the ISS , by separating Russian segment from the rest of the station.

Rogozin emphasizes that the station will in any case be applied, "stuffed with payload." The station will have space equipment for observation, relaying, part of the orbital group will be controlled from it, the head of the state corporation believes.

He clarified that the modules for the new Russian orbital station will be launched from the Vostochny Cosmodrome by the Angara heavy rocket . The state corporation will launch work on a new manned space transport system, new ships will deliver people and cargo to the station.

"Well, that is, we are already at work," Rogozin concluded.

https://ria.ru/20220507/kosmos-1787380521.html

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« Reply #40 on: 05/27/2022 01:57 am »
New Russian orbital station will be automatic, Rogozin said.

The head of Roscosmos Rogozin: the new domestic orbital station will be automatic.

05/26/2022 20:22 (updated: 05/26/2022 20:52)

MOSCOW, May 26 - RIA Novosti. The new Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) will be automatic, and cosmonauts will only maintain it and change scientific equipment, Dmitry Rogozin, director general of Roscosmos, said on Thursday.

"The station will have the opportunity to observe the entire planet. We decided that the station will be automatic, the crew will participate in the delivery and installation of the payload, testing of promising space systems, repair and replacement of spacecraft blocks. A very interesting topic!" - Rogozin wrote in his Telegram channel.

He clarified that such a decision was made at a joint meeting of the RAS Space Council and the Presidium of the Scientific and Technical Council of Roscosmos.

Rogozin did not rule out that the station would be named Novoross.

"The geopolitical situation imposes on us the responsibility of deploying the entire ground-based space infrastructure to service the station exclusively on the territory of Russia and carry out launches from the Vostochny cosmodrome," the press service of the state corporation later quoted the head of Roscosmos as saying.

Earlier, Rogozin said that the decision on the date for the end of Russia's work on the International Space Station (ISS) had already been made, but Roscosmos was not obliged to publicly announce it and would notify partners a year before the termination of cooperation, as provided for by international obligations.

https://ria.ru/20220526/stantsiya-1790967215.html

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« Reply #41 on: 05/27/2022 02:00 am »
Rogozin spoke about plans to create an automatic orbital station.

The head of Roscosmos Rogozin: the Russian orbital station will be automatic.

05/26/2022 22:17 (updated: 05/26/2022 22:26)

MOSCOW, May 26/ Radio Sputnik. The head of Roskosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, said that the Russian orbital station will be automatic, and if necessary, the crew will be able to control it.

The discussion of the creation of such a station was discussed at a joint meeting of the Space Council of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Presidium of the Scientific and Technical Council of Roscosmos.

“The station will have the opportunity to observe the entire planet. We decided that the station will be automatic, the crew will participate in the delivery and installation of the payload, testing of promising space systems, repair and replacement of spacecraft blocks,” Rogozin wrote in Telegram.

He later clarified that the station would be able to receive long-term manned expeditions, but "in general, it will operate in automatic mode."

“This is not a hotel for astronauts and tourists, but a robotic multifunctional platform for highly detailed observation of the Earth and near-Earth space, the control of which, if necessary, will be transferred to the crew,” Rogozin said.

Earlier, Sputnik radio reported that Rogozin spoke about the attempts of Europeans to recapture customers from Roskosmos.

https://radiosputnik.ria.ru/20220526/stantsiya-1790986871.html

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« Reply #43 on: 05/27/2022 02:33 pm »
1/4. Yesterday, Roscosmos and the Council on Space of the Russian Academy of Sciences discussed the design, purpose and orbital parameters of the proposed #ROSS space station. It was decided that ROSS would be able to observe the whole planet..

https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1530071194359193600

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« Reply #44 on: 05/30/2022 09:36 pm »
Roskosmos prepares NEM for launch.

Rogozin, General Director of Roskosmos, announced the start of preparations for the launch of the NEM.

21:14 30.05.2022

MOSCOW, May 30 - RIA Novosti. Roskosmos will not wait for the completion of the preliminary design of the new Russian orbital service station, but will prepare the Science and Energy Module for launch as its first element, Roscosmos CEO Dmitry Rogozin said on Monday.

"I'll explain what needs to be done there. We need an additional module for it, for the NEM, which will have power gyrodines inside it, allowing it to keep this structure in orbit. We will apparently start doing this immediately," Rogozin said at the Cosmonautics Center and aviation" at VDNKh.

"We have agreed on the scientific and energy module (with the government of the Russian Federation - ed.), so we will not wait for the completion of the preliminary design of the Russian orbital service station," he added.

Rogozin explained that the NEM module is in a high degree of readiness, and it can be delivered to the International Space Station at the turn of 2024-2025 . However, Russia will not do this, since there is no point in this, given the imminent completion of the operation of the station.

The government, according to Rogozin, agreed with the proposals of the state corporation, and now the rocket and space corporation Energia is preparing the relevant documents.

https://ria.ru/20220530/roskosmos-1791881689.html

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« Reply #45 on: 05/31/2022 01:11 am »
Roscosmos reported that #NEM which would become the first module of ROSS, will be equipped with gyroscopes for the attitude control of the station. When I visited RCS Energia in April 2021, I was told, it isn’t planned to add gyroscopes to this module.

https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1531339287018487810

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« Reply #46 on: 06/01/2022 01:12 pm »
Roscosmos has not yet decided on the timing of Russia's withdrawal from the ISS project.

Roskosmos: there is no decision yet on the timing of Russia's withdrawal from the ISS project.

14:00 06/01/2022

MOSCOW, June 1 - RIA Novosti. The decision on the timing of the termination of work on the ISS and the start of the deployment of a new Russian orbital station has not yet been made, Dmitry Strugovets, head of the Roscosmos press service , told reporters.

According to Moskovsky Komsomolets, on May 26, the head of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Alexander Sergeev, at a meeting of the Space Council of the Russian Academy of Sciences, said that the decision to terminate the functioning of the ISS had already been made and there was a discussion about what the new national station should be.

"The final decision on the date of deployment of the new Russian orbital service station will be made as part of the work on its draft design. Until that moment, Roscosmos has been working together with partners on the ISS," Strugovets said.

Earlier, Roskosmos CEO Dmitry Rogozin said that the decision on the end date for work on the ISS had already been made, but the Russian Federation is not obliged to publicly report on it and will notify partners a year before the termination of cooperation, as provided for by international obligations.

Now Rocket and Space Corporation Energia is working on a draft design of a new Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS). In particular, the station's orbit will be chosen during the design process - the ROSS will either be left in the same orbit in which the ISS flies, or placed in a high-latitude orbit with an inclination of 97 degrees in order to see the Arctic and observe the Northern Sea Route. The preliminary design of the ROSS should be completed in the third quarter of 2023, after which the development of design documentation will begin.

https://ria.ru/20220601/mks-1792347120.html

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« Reply #47 on: 06/01/2022 01:46 pm »
Now Rocket and Space Corporation Energia is working on a draft design of a new Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS). In particular, the station's orbit will be chosen during the design process - the ROSS will either be left in the same orbit in which the ISS flies, or placed in a high-latitude orbit with an inclination of 97 degrees in order to see the Arctic and observe the Northern Sea Route. The preliminary design of the ROSS should be completed in the third quarter of 2023, after which the development of design documentation will begin.

https://ria.ru/20220601/mks-1792347120.html
Is there any advantage to crewed EO platform? I thought these ideas died in the 60ties.

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Now Rocket and Space Corporation Energia is working on a draft design of a new Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS). In particular, the station's orbit will be chosen during the design process - the ROSS will either be left in the same orbit in which the ISS flies, or placed in a high-latitude orbit with an inclination of 97 degrees in order to see the Arctic and observe the Northern Sea Route. The preliminary design of the ROSS should be completed in the third quarter of 2023, after which the development of design documentation will begin.

https://ria.ru/20220601/mks-1792347120.html
Is there any advantage to crewed EO platform? I thought these ideas died in the 60ties.

In the 1980s, ESA wanted to have a platform in polar orbit in the 2000s in addition to the Colombus MTFF station but that was canceled in the early 1990s. The UK was the principal investigator for the programme.

At the same time, NASA had considered a similar concept of a polar platform, which would have brought a scientific dimension to the Shuttle polar orbit flights. To save costs the platform was to reuse as many elements as possible from the Space Station Freedom program. Shuttle polar orbit flights were canceled due to the Challenger disaster.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #49 on: 06/01/2022 08:42 pm »
Now Rocket and Space Corporation Energia is working on a draft design of a new Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS). In particular, the station's orbit will be chosen during the design process - the ROSS will either be left in the same orbit in which the ISS flies, or placed in a high-latitude orbit with an inclination of 97 degrees in order to see the Arctic and observe the Northern Sea Route. The preliminary design of the ROSS should be completed in the third quarter of 2023, after which the development of design documentation will begin.

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Is there any advantage to crewed EO platform? I thought these ideas died in the 60ties.

It's supposed to be a kind of hub for different kinds of satellites and platforms. I think the crews would be doing repairs, not actually doing the observing themselves.

Russia needs to maintain a human spaceflight programme that is independent to sustain its self image, so I assume a station is the cheapest option available alongside the participation in the ILRS (in fact there may turn out to be a convergence between the two if the Ryvok concept comes to fruition). Given this underlying requirement, they must have sought to make as much use of it for other purposes, as well as to bring the MoD on board (and vice-premier Yuri Borisov, responsible for defence and space industry, is one of the driving forces behind it).

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #50 on: 06/01/2022 10:46 pm »
After weeks of panicking headlines, Russian space officials back-pedaling on the inevitability of withdrawal from #ISS. In fact, Roskosmos spokesman now quoted as saying that the end of the program will be coordinated with partners and with phasing-in of the new Russian station.

https://twitter.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/1532018646930923522

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #51 on: 06/01/2022 10:48 pm »
Gyroscopic module is back on the list of Roscosmos' post-#ISS station components... exclusively illustrated by yours truly. More visuals, full specs in the subscription section:

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #52 on: 06/01/2022 10:57 pm »
Now Rocket and Space Corporation Energia is working on a draft design of a new Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS). In particular, the station's orbit will be chosen during the design process - the ROSS will either be left in the same orbit in which the ISS flies, or placed in a high-latitude orbit with an inclination of 97 degrees in order to see the Arctic and observe the Northern Sea Route. The preliminary design of the ROSS should be completed in the third quarter of 2023, after which the development of design documentation will begin.

https://ria.ru/20220601/mks-1792347120.html
Is there any advantage to crewed EO platform? I thought these ideas died in the 60ties.

It's supposed to be a kind of hub for different kinds of satellites and platforms. I think the crews would be doing repairs, not actually doing the observing themselves.

Russia needs to maintain a human spaceflight programme that is independent to sustain its self image, so I assume a station is the cheapest option available alongside the participation in the ILRS (in fact there may turn out to be a convergence between the two if the Ryvok concept comes to fruition). Given this underlying requirement, they must have sought to make as much use of it for other purposes, as well as to bring the MoD on board (and vice-premier Yuri Borisov, responsible for defence and space industry, is one of the driving forces behind it).

Hrm, man tending freefliers/ polar observation platforms does segway nicely into a revenue stream of doing maintenance of commercial earth observation sats if they are of the large variety. That's not entirely unreasonable. Imagine a persistent platform freeflier functioning much like the A-train set of sats, that can have new payloads delivered and propellant refueled.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #53 on: 06/04/2022 10:14 am »
Roskosmos and the Russian Academy of Sciences have chosen an orbit for the Russian orbital station.

Rogozin: "Roskosmos" and the Russian Academy of Sciences have chosen an orbit for the Russian orbital service station.

11:40 04.06.2022

MOSCOW, June 4 - RIA Novosti. Roscosmos and the Russian Academy of Sciences (RAS) have chosen the orbit in which the new Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) will fly, said Dmitry Rogozin, CEO of the state corporation.

"We decided on the inclination of the orbit, which will give us a colossal amount of information," he said on the air of the Rossiya 24 TV channel .

He added that the developers understand what the new station will consist of and in what order its main modules should be launched into orbit.

Rogozin did not specify which orbit the experts chose. However, two possible options were previously reported - a polar one with an inclination of 97-98 degrees and the same one on which the ISS flies - with an inclination of 51.6 degrees. The use of the first would make it possible to observe almost the entire territory of Russia and a significant part of the Arctic , while about 15% of the territory of the Russian Federation is visible from the current ISS.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #54 on: 06/06/2022 11:06 pm »
Pathogenic bacteria may emerge at station based on ISS modules, scientist says.

Currently, three options are being considered for the creation of the ROSS.

6 JUN, 08:45

MOSCOW, June 6. /TASS/. The creation of Russia’s orbital service station (ROSS) using the modules of the International Space Station (ISS) may lead to an emergence of potentially pathogenic bacteria which damage materials, Director of the Institute of Biomedical Problems of the Russian Academy of Sciences (RAS) Oleg Orlov said.

"The option of creating the ROSS using the ISS modules will lead to the transfer of the microbiota to the new modules, will accelerate the process of their biocontamination which will result in potentially pathogenic bacteria and technophiles participating in the process of the biodestruction of materials emerging at the ROSS," the institute cited him as saying at a joint meeting of the Russian Academy of Sciences’ Space Council and the Presidium of the Scientific and Technical Council of Roscosmos.

As an example, the scientist cited a failure of commutation equipment during the 24th expedition on the Mir orbital station due to the activity of microorganisms.

According to him, currently three options are being considered for the creation of the ROSS: a mid-latitude orbit with a tilt of 51.6 degrees based on the modules of the ISS’ Russian segment, an orbit with a tilt of 51.6 degrees based on the new modules and a polar orbit with a tilt of 96.8 degrees.

Earlier, General Director of the Roscosmos space agency Dmitry Rogozin in an interview with the Russia-24 TV channel said that the agency had determined the inclination of the ROSS’ orbit as well as its architecture and content in general.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #55 on: 06/06/2022 11:08 pm »
Biomedical center pushes ahead with research into protection from cosmic rays.

It was stressed that it was possible to neutralize the risk of protons affecting cosmonauts as a result of solar flares, including by predicting such events.

6 JUN, 08:52

MOSCOW, June 6. /TASS/. Scientists at the Bio-Medical Problems Institute under the Russian Academy of Sciences are pushing ahead with research into ways of protecting future crews of a space station in a polar orbit from galactic cosmic rays and solar flares, as follows from a report released by the institute’s director, RAS member Oleg Orlov.

"In a polar orbit, the risk of exposure to galactic rays grows considerably. Work is underway to create adequate methods of protection from them. Means of monitoring exposure to heavy particles, both individual and common, are being developed, in combination with research into the real effects of galactic rays on various organs of the human body. This question is being studied, and means that would allow for easing this risk factor are being developed," Orlov said in the report issued Monday.

He stressed that it was possible to neutralize the risk of protons affecting cosmonauts as a result of solar flares, including by predicting such events.

Both local and personal means will help achieve a proper level of crew’s protection. "New protective materials are already being tested," he said.

Also, in polar orbits, the harmful effects of electrons will increase, in particular on "the skin and organs of vision during extra-vehicular activity." This risk can also be overcome with the help of protective gear, Orlov said.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #56 on: 06/08/2022 01:47 am »
Rogozin spoke about the orbit of the ROSS flight.

Head of Roscosmos Rogozin: ROSS will be created in orbit with an inclination of 96-98 degrees.

04:06 08.06.2022

MOSCOW, June 8 - RIA Novosti. The Russian orbital service station will be created in a high-latitude orbit with an inclination of 96-98 degrees, Dmitry Rogozin, director general of Roscosmos, told RIA Novosti.

Earlier, he said that Roscosmos and the Russian Academy of Sciences ( RAN ) have chosen the orbit in which the new Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) will fly, but did not specify which one.

“I have always advocated a high-latitude orbit. Because in an orbit with an inclination of 51.6 degrees everything is clear and has long been studied, we cannot continue to work within the framework of manned astronautics without forming a task for ourselves that is fundamentally different from what has already been completed that the Soviet and Russian cosmonautics already have," Rogozin said.

He believes that flying in an orbit with an inclination of 51.6 degrees, on which the International Space Station currently operates , makes it possible to calmly study a person in outer space. This task, according to the general director of Roscosmos, has been completed, and Russian scientists have studied the features of human flight "in all nuances."

A station in orbit with an inclination of 96-98 degrees would be ideal for Earth observation , Rogozin said. The cosmonauts will fly in, put "expensive and high-precision" equipment, in particular, infrared and radar observation, on the outer side, maintain and repair it. Faulty units can be delivered to Earth to be replaced later.

"The station will essentially operate in automatic mode, that is, it will fly without a person and perform these tasks, and the equipment will turn on when a person has the least impact on this equipment," he added.

In addition, the launch route of the ship during the flight to the new station from the Vostochny cosmodrome will pass over land, which will reduce the risks for the crew in case of emergency situations. When starting from Vostochny to a station with an orbit of 51.6 degrees, a rocket with a ship would fly over the Pacific Ocean for a long time , Rogozin explained.

Earlier it was reported about two possible options for building a new station: in a polar orbit with an inclination of 97-98 degrees or the same orbit in which the ISS flies - with an inclination of 51.6 degrees. The use of the first would make it possible to observe almost the entire territory of Russia and a significant part of the Arctic , while about 15% of the territory of the Russian Federation is visible from the current ISS. At the same time, when building a new station in the old orbit, it would be possible to use the newest Russian ISS modules - Nauka and Prichal, sent into orbit in 2021.

Now the Rocket and Space Corporation ( RKK ) Energia is preparing a draft design of the ROSS. The preliminary design should be completed in the third quarter of 2023, after which the development of design documentation will begin. In addition, Rogozin said that the Science and Energy Module (SEM), originally built for the ISS, but never sent to it, would be prepared to become the first module of the new station, without waiting for the completion of the preliminary design.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #57 on: 06/19/2022 10:05 am »
More useful for the country, more dangerous for people: what is known about the ROSS station.

08:00 06/19/2022 (updated: 08:20 06/19/2022)

MOSCOW, June 19 - RIA Novosti, Nikolai Guryanov. Roskosmos has finally decided on the main parameters of the future Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS), which should become an outpost in space after the withdrawal from the ISS project. Where she will fly and what functions to perform - in the material of RIA Novosti.

Divorce from the ISS

Russia has decided in principle to withdraw from the ISS project. Preliminarily - in 2025, but the deadlines may be extended, Roskosmos promised to notify foreign partners a year in advance about the exact date . It all depends on several factors, including the technical condition of the station.

In recent years, the deterioration of its elements has become more and more noticeable. For example, air leakage from the Zvezda module was repeatedly recorded. Earlier, the CEO of RSC Energia, Vladimir Solovyov, predicted an “avalanche-like” increase in system failures after 2025.

The fate of the ISS after the withdrawal of Russia is still unknown. They planned to attach part of the elements to the Russian national station, but this idea was abandoned. The problem is not only that the modules are outdated physically and morally (both statements are also relevant for the Russian segment "Science" attached a year earlier, which grew old while still on Earth ), but also in the final decision of Roscosmos to send the national project to another orbit.

Now the United States (which financed the ISS project for the most part) and other countries are considering different options for the fate of the common home of cosmonauts and astronauts. The post-Russian extension of the life of the ISS is complicated by its design: it is the engines of the domestic Zvezda module that are responsible for correcting the station's orbit and correct position in space. It is simply impossible to separate this segment - the ISS will cease to exist. According to Solovyov, recently the Americans are inclined to flood the structure.

space lego

The station, which is being developed by RSC Energia, does not have a preliminary design - it should be prepared in the third quarter of 2023. But there is a clear concept. The head of the Russian Academy of Sciences  Alexander Sergeev  compared it with Lego: the architecture is open, all elements are easily replaced with new ones, which makes the life span unlimited.

An idea of ​​the structure of the station is given by the projects published by Roskosmos. ROSS will be similar to the Soviet Mir, only bigger. At least five permanent elements are connected via the node module (their number can be increased in the future).

Without waiting for the completion of the preliminary design, Roskosmos is preparing the first element for launch into orbit - the scientific and energy module (NEM), which has been assembled since the early 2010s for the ISS, but in recent years it has been decided to make it part of the domestic station. NEM is already "in the hardware" and is being finalized.

The module provides all the necessary systems for autonomous flight: control panel, orientation gyrodines, kitchen, toilet, berths, and so on. On the video , where the NEM is captured, you can see a model of an android robot - perhaps some of the work at the station will be performed by the descendants of the famous "Fedor" ( FEDOR ).

Unlike the international project, the main scientific equipment of the ROSS will be placed not inside, but outside - on the outer side.
"The nadir (pointing down. - Ed.) board should be provided with surveillance and relay equipment. The anti-aircraft board should be equipped with equipment for observing outer space, including as part of asteroid and comet security," explained Dmitry Roskosmos CEO Rogozin in his speech at the Royal Readings in January.

Unlike the ISS, the Russian national station will not be inhabited, but visited. Most likely, a crew of two to four people will fly in once or twice a year for about two months to service equipment and control especially complex processes. The rest of the time, the tasks will be performed by automation. The reduction in the stay of astronauts is due not only to the development of technology, but also to a special - more dangerous - orbit.

Skeptics, in principle, doubt the need to build an expensive station, which will be attended by people. Thus, Vladimir Surdin , a senior researcher at the P.K. Sternberg State Astronomical Institute, in a conversation with RIA Novosti noted that ground-based telescopes will cope with tracking potentially dangerous space objects much better than instruments that can be installed on ROSS. And for Earth observation, much cheaper satellites are enough.

But officials believe that it is too early to rely on automation in everything. "An important feature of the design of the station should be its high maintainability, the ability to change the target equipment and individual units. One cannot do without human participation," Rogozin said in an interview with Russian Space magazine.

Space technology is still difficult to maintain without human intervention, according to science journalist Mikhail Kotov .

“The ISS without people on board would not have worked even a quarter of the time that it exists,” he says. “Astronauts are needed all the time: they are engaged in repairs, checking modules, testing. The international station over the years has become more and more like a village house: hands are constantly required Tweak here, check there, change that. So far, there is not a single system of robots that could replace a person at least in avatar mode."

dangerous orbit

In early June, Dmitry Rogozin specified that the national station would operate in orbit with an inclination of 96-98 degrees (the ISS has 51.6). This will allow you to fly practically from pole to pole and observe any point on the Earth. Including Russia, while the ISS route covers approximately 20 percent of the country's territory. From the board of the international station, the northern regions are not visible at all, Moscow and St. Petersburg - only at a strong angle. Through the ROSS portholes, astronauts will be able to properly view their homeland from a height of 300-350 kilometers.

“The orbit is quite interesting,” says Vladimir Surdin. “It’s called sun-synchronous. If you fly in it not very high from the Earth, the device will always move over an area that is equally illuminated by the Sun. For example, over a terminator - a line between day and night. Such orbits are usually chosen for reconnaissance satellites to see long shadows from objects on the ground and determine their shape."

Every hour and a half, the station will pass over the Arctic , where, as Rogozin notes, the economic interests of the state are concentrated. In particular, the Northern Sea Route runs there.
"Navigation tracking, as well as an understanding of the development of the ice situation, the main oil-bearing regions and pollution, will give a tremendous economic effect," emphasizes Vladimir Solovyov, General Designer of RSC Energia.

According to Rogozin, such an orbit will open up new prospects for science - flights along the ISS trajectory have exhausted themselves in this sense.

“Because in orbit with an inclination of 51.6 degrees everything is clear and has been studied for a long time, we cannot continue to work within the framework of manned cosmonautics without creating a task for ourselves that is fundamentally different from what has already been completed, what the Soviet and Russian cosmonautics," said the head of Roskosmos.

A lot of research is being carried out at space stations, but the main task of habitable orbital objects is to serve as a laboratory for studying humans in space. But people cannot stay at a high-latitude station for a long time, it is dangerous for health.

“In the polar regions, the radiation belts come close to the surface of the Earth. That is why there are auroras. For a person, this is an unpleasant circumstance. It is impossible to spend half a year or a year in orbit under such conditions, as the cosmonauts and astronauts on the ISS did," points out Surdin .

In general, the level of exposure at a high-latitude station will be about 30 percent higher compared to the ISS, Vyacheslav Shurshakov , head of the radiation safety department for manned space flights at the Institute of Biomedical Problems of the Russian Academy of Sciences , explained to RIA Novosti .

Of particular danger to astronauts are solar proton events - high-energy streams of protons and ions as a result of a solar flare or coronal ejection. According to Shurshakov, if they increased the radiation dose ten times in the ISS orbit, then at the high-latitude station they can increase it fifty times.

The good news is that the Sun has low activity right now. This period sometimes lasts for decades, but with low solar radiation, the share of influence on astronauts of galactic rays increases, from which it is more difficult to protect themselves. And this type of influence has an extremely unpleasant effect.

“Memory may be disturbed, a person begins to think worse, and not once in old age, but right during the flight,” the expert emphasizes.

On the ISS, such radiation did not exceed half of the total dose received by astronauts, while at a high-latitude station, the share will increase to two-thirds.

Roskosmos is not trying to downplay the threat. “Of course, such an orbit implies a higher level of radiation, and this will affect the duration of the flight of the expeditions,” Rogozin admitted . “But we must not forget that the station is not important in itself. It is important as a carrier of unique equipment with enormous capabilities. Its task is to not conducting experiments on people, but the uninterrupted operation of the target equipment provided by the crew."

It is not yet clear how more dangerous conditions will affect the tourist attraction of the future station. Previously, the tourist module was planned to be included in the ROSS, but it disappeared from the latest published projects.

The high-latitude orbit has another important advantage: when launching from the Vostochny cosmodrome, a significant part of the rocket flight will pass over land. If the inclination were lower, they would fly over the sea - and this creates high risks for the crew in the event of an accident.

Space service station

In deciphering the abbreviation ROSS, it is no coincidence that there is the word "service": the main function of the station is not scientific, but service. It will launch other vehicles into orbit, repair them, assemble them from several modules into a single whole.

One of the most interesting elements should be the spacecraft maintenance platform. The possibility of its interaction with the tug, which will deliver the satellites to the ROSS, and after repair, return to the working point, is assumed.

A similar function is endowed with the Chinese space station Tiangong. They want to bring an observatory into the same orbit with it, which from time to time will dock with the station for service work.

Another possible task of the platform is to send satellites from the station, similar to how small satellites are now launched from the ISS with a robotic arm.

Finally, the third type of work that ROSS systems are expected to be able to perform is the assembly of large structures aimed at more distant space: the massive elements of an interplanetary ship are put into orbit from Earth in parts, where they are assembled into a single whole using a spacecraft maintenance platform . For example, they talk about the interaction of the national station with the promising project of the fuel and energy module (TEM), also known as the Zeus nuclear tug.

“So far, this is a very distant future. When creating the station, we assume that it will work for a long time, so it is desirable to foresee all the promising possibilities for its use,” Kotov believes.

Withdrawal and delivery

It is planned to send ROSS into orbit from the territory of Russia. The Baikonur Cosmodrome , leased from Kazakhstan , is unsuitable for both technical and political reasons. "In the event of instability in a neighboring country, there would simply be nowhere to launch rockets to the national station," Kotov explains. Therefore, the launch will be made from the Amur space rocket complex (SRC) at the Vostochny cosmodrome, where construction and installation work continues .

The station modules themselves will be delivered into space by the heavy Angara-A5 rocket. Her third (and last at the moment) test flight from the Plesetsk cosmodrome was officially recognized as successful, but it was not possible to put the payload model into the target orbit. The first tests of the Angara on Vostochny were scheduled for the end of 2023 - the beginning of 2024.

The cosmonauts will get to the station on the advanced Orel spacecraft. This transport system, which will replace the legendary Soyuz, is currently under development. According to the project, the ship will accommodate two to four crew members. The first test flight (unmanned) is scheduled for 2024.

The creation of ROSS will take place in two stages. First, the NEM will be sent into orbit. This was planned for the period between 2026 and 2030. The second stage is 2030-2035, when it will be possible to withdraw other modules, but their construction has not even begun yet.

As a rule, the timing of the creation of spacecraft is strongly shifted to the right. So, the Nauka module was supposed to be launched to the ISS in 2009, but this was only done in 2021. They wanted to send the NEM into orbit in 2015, but it is still not ready. Considering that the projects of the launch complex, launch vehicle and spacecraft required for the ROSS are also far from completion, it can be assumed that the timing of its launch into orbit will change.

As RAS President Alexander Sergeev said last year, the cost of creating the station can be compared with the amount that Russia allocates to maintain activity on the ISS.

"Axiom" and "Heavenly Palace"

Russia is not the only country that is developing a national space station project. Now the Chinese visited "Heavenly Palace" is operating in orbit. The base module has been flying around the Earth since April 2021. This year, two more will be added to it, including an experimental one. Thus, Tiangong will become the world's third multi-module station after the Soviet Mir and the ISS, although the number of elements will be less than theirs.

"Heavenly Palace" rotates at an altitude of 340-450 kilometers, orbital inclination - 41.5 degrees. There are currently three taikonauts on board who will spend six months in space. They must complete the assembly of the station.

While the future of the ISS remains uncertain, US private company Axiom Space is building its own space station. If successful, it will become a commercial orbital "office" - there are no such in the world yet. They want to launch the first module into orbit in 2024. He will first join the ISS, and then separate and go on a solo flight. In total, the station will have several components. Unlike ROSS and Tiangong, Axiom Station is planned to be permanently inhabited.

https://ria.ru/20220619/ross-1796203043.html

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« Reply #58 on: 06/21/2022 06:13 am »
I was deeply skeptical about this station, but deciding to put it in an SSO orbit makes me even more deeply skeptical, for several reasons:

- The performance loss to SSO makes it a far trickier station to reach than ISS. Less cargo on Progress, Soyuz may not reach it all (and if it does, with razor thin margins). They might have to wait for their next-gen capsule on Angara 5, but that will be much more expensive and add a long pole in the schedule.
- Crew launch and landing safety. Presumably they will launch northwards from Vostochny, but the abort zones will be very remote or in the Arctic Ocean. And landing opportunities over Russia or Kazakhstan will presumably be fewer per day. (Depending on their preferred landing area)
- Crew radiation exposure at SSO, supposedly greater than at ISS.

No, despite as cool as a space station in polar orbit sounds, I predict this SSO decision will be reversed or the project cancelled.
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« Reply #59 on: 06/21/2022 06:22 am »
I was deeply skeptical about this station, but deciding to put it in an SSO orbit makes me even more deeply skeptical, for several reasons:

- The performance loss to SSO makes it a far trickier station to reach than ISS. Less cargo on Progress, Soyuz may not reach it all (and if it does, with razor thin margins). They might have to wait for their next-gen capsule on Angara 5, but that will be much more expensive and add a long pole in the schedule.
- Crew launch and landing safety. Presumably they will launch northwards from Vostochny, but the abort zones will be very remote or in the Arctic Ocean. And landing opportunities over Russia or Kazakhstan will presumably be fewer per day. (Depending on their preferred landing area)
- Crew radiation exposure at SSO, supposedly greater than at ISS.

No, despite as cool as a space station in polar orbit sounds, I predict this SSO decision will be reversed or the project cancelled.
2.1b version from Vostochny is required to launch Standard Progress and Soyuz Spacecraft expected of the MS-M (MS-Modernized / working name).

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #60 on: 06/21/2022 12:14 pm »
The post-Russian extension of the life of the ISS is complicated by its design: it is the engines of the domestic Zvezda module that are responsible for correcting the station's orbit and correct position in space. It is simply impossible to separate this segment - the ISS will cease to exist. According to Solovyov, recently the Americans are inclined to flood the structure.


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« Reply #61 on: 06/21/2022 01:07 pm »
The post-Russian extension of the life of the ISS is complicated by its design: it is the engines of the domestic Zvezda module that are responsible for correcting the station's orbit and correct position in space. It is simply impossible to separate this segment - the ISS will cease to exist. According to Solovyov, recently the Americans are inclined to flood the structure.


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De-orbit it to drop into the ocean.

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To drop the station into the ocean.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #63 on: 06/22/2022 09:46 am »
Duration of stay on Russian prospective orbital station limited to about 3 years — expert.

In Vyacheslav Shurshakov' estimates, typical length of space missions to ROSS would be about 10-11 months.

21 JUN, 16:15

MOSCOW, June 22. /TASS/. Cosmonauts’ missions to Russia’s prospective orbital station ROSS (Russian Orbital Service Station) should not last longer than three plus years due to space radiation exposure, a senior Russian scientist has told TASS.

Vyacheslav Shurshakov, who heads the Radiation Safety of Manned Space Flights department at the Institute of Biomedical Problems (IBMP) of the Russian Academy of Sciences (RAS), said levels of radiation exposure for cosmonauts staying aboard the International Space Station (ISS) permit flights that last up to four years.

"If we take ROSS, radiation levels there will be approximately 20% higher. If we stick to this logic, the period that a cosmonaut can spend there should be shorter by 20%, which is slightly more than three years," he said during a Roscosmos TV broadcast.

In his estimates, typical length of space missions to ROSS would be about 10-11 months.

Roscosmos Director General Dmitry Rogozin said earlier this month that the Russian space agency had reached a decision on orbit inclination and general layout of the future Russian space station ROSS.

In turn, Director of the Institute of Biomedical Problems of the Russian Academy of Sciences (RAS) Oleg Orlov said three options are being considered for the creation of the ROSS: a mid-latitude orbit with a tilt of 51.6 degrees based on the modules of the ISS’ Russian segment, an orbit with a tilt of 51.6 degrees based on the new modules and a polar orbit with a tilt of 96.8 degrees.

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« Reply #64 on: 07/14/2022 02:18 am »
Rogozin spoke about the future location of the ROSS station.

Rogozin: ROSS station will be placed in the same orbit as the Zeus nuclear tug.

03:33 14.07.2022

MOSCOW, July 14 - RIA Novosti. The promising Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) will be placed in the same orbit from which the Zeus nuclear tug will send ships to the Moon and into deep space so that astronauts can serve it, Dmitry Rogozin, CEO of Roscosmos, told RIA Novosti.

“If we talk about the final decision on the inclination of the orbit, then it depends on the following chain of factors. First, the orbital inclination of the station must be exactly the same as the inclination of the orbit of Zeus, and the inclination of the orbit of Zeus must be such as is necessary for its have from the point of view of the optimal departure trajectory to the Moon and beyond," Rogozin said .

He clarified that he met with the leadership of the Energia Rocket and Space Corporation (RKK), which is preparing a draft design of ROSS, and discussed this issue. The new station may not be placed in the 97-98 degree orbit that was previously chosen. The orbit will also be high-latitude, but no longer polar, Rogozin explained.

"In this regard, the station has the functionality to maintain the Zeus, ensuring and opening its panels, and at the same time delivering to it what needs to be towed. Naturally, in a non-operating state for the reactor. Then this station acquires another unique purpose, which we we see, it is very important from the point of view of manned cosmonautics," he added.

Earlier, Rogozin said that cosmonauts would be able to move on a manned spacecraft between the promising Russian orbital station and the Zeus nuclear tug to control the assembly of the tug. Later, he told RIA Novosti that the cosmonauts would not only control the assembly from the ship, but would also be able to go into outer space to intervene in this process if necessary

At present, the Energia Rocket and Space Corporation (RKK) is preparing a draft design of the Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS). The preliminary design should be completed in the third quarter of 2023, after which the development of design documentation will begin. It was reported that the new station will fly in a high-latitude orbit with an inclination of 96-98 degrees, and not 51.6 degrees, like the ISS .

The nuclear tug has been developed in Russia since 2010. Earlier, Yury Urlichich, First Deputy General Director of Roscosmos , spoke in one of his presentations about plans for the first flight into orbit in 2030 for flight tests. It was reported that the nuclear tug will be designed for flights to the moon and the planets of the solar system. It was named "Zeus", and the research and development work itself is called "Nuklon".

The first Russian Zeus mission to Jupiter will take 50 months and will last from 2030 to 2034. Zeus and the payload module will be launched into orbit from the Vostochny cosmodrome on separate launch vehicles. They will dock, travel to the Moon, fly around it, and return to Earth . Then another payload module will dock to Zeus, after which the station will fly towards Venus, perform a gravity maneuver and head towards the moons of Jupiter. The mission will be fully automatic.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #65 on: 07/14/2022 03:53 pm »
Cross post for new PTK ROS version for crew and cargo to ROSS as directed in order by NTS
NTS directs switch to the more powerful Angara-A5M after PTK testing on Angara-A5P for the operational flights of the new PTK ROS crew Cargo Vehicle version intended for ROSS.

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« Reply #66 on: 07/15/2022 01:08 am »
Cosmonauts stepping out from ROSS to service a (chemically propelled/docked) returning Zeus will be kinda scary. Gotta stay within that shadow shield area...

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« Reply #67 on: 07/15/2022 05:41 am »
Cosmonauts stepping out from ROSS to service a (chemically propelled/docked) returning Zeus will be kinda scary. Gotta stay within that shadow shield area...

I think the servicing is only before first use of the reactor, to make sure the radiators are deployed.
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« Reply #68 on: 07/26/2022 03:14 pm »
The first crew can fly to the Russian orbital station in 2028.

Solovyov: the first crew can fly to the new Russian orbital station in 2028.

18:05 26.07.2022

MOSCOW, July 26 - RIA Novosti. The first crew to the new Russian orbital service station (ROSS) can be sent in 2028, said Vladimir Solovyov, general designer for manned systems and complexes of the Russian Federation, general designer of RSC Energia.

“After the docking of the Nodal Module in 2028, it will be possible to send the first crew from Baikonur by a Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle on a Soyuz-type ship,” he said in an interview with Russian Space magazine.

Solovyov said that for this, the Soyuz-2.1b rocket would need to be certified for manned flights. It is a more powerful version of the Soyuz-2.1a currently used in manned cosmonautics and will be needed due to the fact that launches into orbit with an inclination of 97 degrees require more energy than to the ISS , which flies at an inclination of 51.6 degrees.

A manned flight to the ROSS will become possible at the first stage of its deployment in orbit. By this time, it will consist of the Science and Energy Module (SEM), Nodal and Gateway modules. The astronauts during the first mission will reopen the station and begin experiments. After that, it will have to include a basic module similar to NEM.

In 2030, as Solovyov said, the second stage of the deployment of the ROSS will begin, the Target and Production modules will be attached to it.

"By the end of the second stage, the mass of the station will reach about 122 tons, and the pressurized volume - 505 cubic meters, and according to these indicators it will significantly exceed the Russian segment of the ISS," he said.

On Tuesday, the new head of Roscosmos , Yuri Borisov , reported to Russian President Vladimir  Putin that Russia would fulfill all its international obligations and withdraw from the ISS project after 2024.

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« Reply #69 on: 07/26/2022 03:16 pm »
Russia to prioritize creating new orbital station in manned cosmonautics — Roscosmos chief.

The Roscosmos Scientific and Technical Council recommended that the work on creating the technical project of Russia’s new orbital station be included in the 2025 federal space program.

26 JUL, 04:50

MOSCOW, July 26. /TASS/. Russia will focus on creating a Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) as its top priority in manned cosmonautics, Roscosmos Chief Yury Borisov said at a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday.

"We will continue the piloted program in compliance with the plans approved. The main focus will be on creating a Russian orbital station," Borisov said, stressing that Roscosmos would also pay attention to scientific space research.

Then-Deputy Prime Minister Borisov announced in April 2021 that the condition of the International Space Station (ISS) left much to be desired and Russia might focus on creating its own orbital outpost. Russia’s Energia Space Rocket Corporation was assigned the task of making the first basic module for a new Russian orbital station ready in 2025. The new module will be based on a research and power unit that was previously intended for launch to the International Space Station in 2024.

The Roscosmos Scientific and Technical Council recommended that the work on creating the technical project of Russia’s new orbital station be included in the 2025 federal space program. In late February this year, then-Roscosmos Chief Dmitry Rogozin said that it would be hard to simultaneously implement the ISS project and the project of building a new national orbital outpost due to financial constraints. He also said it was necessary to stipulate some "overlapping period" when the ISS and the ROSS would operate simultaneously for some time.

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« Reply #70 on: 07/26/2022 03:24 pm »
Russia will fulfill its obligations to ISS partners and withdraw from the #ISS after 2024, said Yuri #Borisov in a report to Vladimir Putin. He noted that by this time Roscosmos will begin to create a Russian orbital station ROSS.

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« Reply #71 on: 07/26/2022 04:09 pm »
Roscosmos releases the promotional video of a new Russian orbital station.

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« Reply #72 on: 07/26/2022 04:10 pm »
Yuri Borisov, head of Roscosmos says Russia will pull out of the International Space Station (ISS) after 2024 and focus on building its own orbiting outpost.

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« Reply #73 on: 07/26/2022 04:15 pm »
New concept of the promised Russian Space Station, which the head of the Roscosmos press service called ROS (instead of ROSS). The first step includes NEM, a base module, a node module and an airlock module.

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« Reply #74 on: 07/26/2022 07:10 pm »
There is a long interview on ROSS with Vladimir Solovyov in the latest issue of the Roscosmos journal "Russkiy kosmos" (August 2022, issue nr. 42). Available via this proxyserver:

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« Reply #75 on: 07/26/2022 09:37 pm »
What is the spidery thing at the bottom? An antenna?

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« Reply #76 on: 07/26/2022 09:58 pm »
What is the spidery thing at the bottom? An antenna?
It is the supporting and tensioning structure for a mesh antenna. Reference Spektr-R antenna for similar design. Note all of the EO instruments along with other Intelligence instruments. Not all instrument shown onboard are the complete hardware. B. Hendrickx might have further insight on each instrument shown.
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« Reply #77 on: 07/27/2022 12:29 am »
The new station can become a base for flights to the Moon, RSC Energia said.

General Designer of RSC Energia Solovyov: the new station can be made a base for a flight to the Moon.

07/26/2022 18:09 (updated: 07/26/2022 18:13)

MOSCOW, July 26 - RIA Novosti. The new Russian orbital service station (ROSS) can be used as a base for flights to the Moon, it may have a lunar ship "assigned" to it, said Vladimir Solovyov, general designer of RSC Energia.

"With political will and sufficient funding, ROSS can be used as a base for assembling a lunar or Martian complex. With the help of ROSS, effective two-launch schemes can be implemented when the crew is waiting at the station for the arrival of an upper stage to perform a departure impulse to the Moon," Solovyov said in a statement. interview to the Russian Space magazine.

He clarified that such schemes make it possible to reduce the required carrying capacity of missiles and switch from expensive super-heavy class carriers to more affordable heavy-class missiles.

"For a flight to the Moon , the crew will be able to use a ship arriving at the station from the Earth , or even a reusable ship with a permanent "reference" to the ROSS. In this case, the ROSS becomes a kind of spaceport," Solovyov added.

Earlier Tuesday, the new head of Roscosmos , Yuri Borisov , reported to Russian President Vladimir  Putin that Russia would fulfill all its international obligations and withdraw from the ISS project in 2024. Sending the first module of the new Russian station into orbit is expected no earlier than 2028.

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« Reply #78 on: 07/27/2022 12:31 am »
Satellites will be able to refuel at the new Russian orbital station.

The new Russian orbital station will have a spacecraft maintenance platform.

07/26/2022 18:19 (updated: 07/26/2022 19:07)

MOSCOW, July 26 - RIA Novosti. The spacecraft maintenance platform to be installed at the new Russian orbital station will allow not only retrofitting and repairing satellites, but also refueling them, said Vladimir Solovyov, General Designer of RSC Energia.

"A partially pressurized spacecraft maintenance platform will be delivered to ROSS, on which it will be possible to re-equip, refuel and re-send new automatic spacecraft into orbit," Solovyov said in an interview with Russian Space magazine.

He specified that the platform will be delivered to the station during the second stage of its deployment in orbit, which will begin in 2030.

As follows from the illustrations for the interviews given in the magazine, the platform will allow working with inspector satellites that will inspect the station from the outside, the Roy grouping devices that will detect approaching objects, as well as Earth remote sensing satellites.

In addition, there are plans to work with high-speed communication spacecraft and tug satellites to transport faulty vehicles to the station.

There is no such system on the International Space Station . At the same time, Solovyov noted that the Soviet rocket scientists worked out the possibility of refueling in space back in 1978.

"The Europeans even bought this system from us for their ATV cargo ship, and it's a sin not to use it to refuel satellites," he said.
He also added that the US has already developed a tug to move faulty satellites in orbit. The same system is to be developed by Russian engineers.

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« Reply #79 on: 07/27/2022 12:33 am »
US regrets Russia's decision to withdraw from ISS project.

State Department spokesman Price: US regrets Russia's decision to withdraw from ISS project in 2024.

22:17 26.07.2022

WASHINGTON, July 26 - RIA Novosti. The United States regrets Russia's plans to withdraw from the International Space Station project in 2024, State Department spokesman Ned Price said.

"We saw the Russian announcement . This is a development that is unfortunate given the critical scientific work being done on the ISS , the valuable professional collaboration that our space agencies have had," Price said at the briefing.

According to him, Russia's announcement came as a surprise to Washington .

On Tuesday, the new head of Roscosmos ,  Yuri Borisov , who recently replaced Dmitry Rogozin , reported to President Vladimir Putin that the decision to withdraw Russia from the ISS project after 2024 had been made. NASA , which along with European partners plans to use the ISS until 2030, has not yet commented on Moscow 's plans to withdraw from the ISS project in 2024, saying it has not received official notification from Russia.

As Vladimir Solovyov , general designer for manned systems and complexes of the Russian Federation, general designer of RSC Energia, noted on Tuesday , the construction of a new Russian orbital service station (ROSS) will begin no earlier than 2028, the new station can be used as a base for flights to the Moon , it can a lunar ship "assigned" to it will appear.

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« Reply #80 on: 07/27/2022 12:36 am »
RSC Energia urged to operate the ISS during the creation of a new station.

RSC Energia sees the need to operate the ISS during the construction of a new station.

07/26/2022 18:27 (updated: 07/26/2022 18:55)

MOSCOW, July 26 - RIA Novosti. The operation of the International Space Station should be continued until a tangible backlog is created for the new Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS), said Vladimir Solovyov, General Designer of RSC Energia.

"Of course, we need to continue operating the ISS until we create a more or less tangible reserve for ROSS," Solovyov said in an interview with Russian Space magazine.

He specified that a flight from one station to another would be impossible, but Russia would be able to "ensure the efficient operation of both the Russian segment of the ISS and the ROSS."

“We have such experience. In addition, we must take into account that if we stop manned flights for several years, then it will be very difficult to restore what has been achieved,” Solovyov noted.

Earlier Tuesday, the new head of Roskosmos, Yuri Borisov, reported to Russian President Vladimir Putin that Russia would fulfill all its international obligations and withdraw from the ISS project in 2024. Sending the first module of the new Russian station into orbit is expected no earlier than 2028.

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« Reply #81 on: 07/27/2022 12:39 am »
Musk commented on Russia's decision to withdraw from the ISS project in 2024.

Elon Musk wished Russia a happy journey because of the decision to withdraw from the ISS project.

20:04 07/26/2022 (updated: 02:56 07/27/2022)

WASHINGTON, July 26 - RIA Novosti. American entrepreneur, owner of SpaceX, Elon Musk , reacted to Russia's decision to withdraw from the International Space Station project in 2024 with the wish of a "happy journey".

"Bon voyage," Musk wrote in French on his Twitter account in response to an article by the Space.com profile publication about the statement by the new head of Roscosmos , Yuri Borisov , that the decision to withdraw Russia from the ISS project after 2024 has been made.

Borisov, who recently replaced Dmitry Rogozin in this post , reported the decision to President Vladimir Putin . NASA , which, along with European partners, plans to use the ISS until 2030, has not yet commented on Moscow 's plans to withdraw from the ISS project in 2024, saying that it has not received official notification from Russia about this.

Musk has repeatedly argued with the former head of the Russian space department Rogozin on Twitter. Both space and earthly affairs, in particular the situation in Ukraine , became the topics of their caustic remarks about each other .

As Vladimir Solovyov , general designer for manned systems and complexes of Russia, general designer of RSC Energia, noted on Tuesday , the construction of a new Russian orbital service station (ROSS) will begin no earlier than 2028, the new station can be used as a base for flights to the Moon , it can a lunar ship "assigned" to it will appear.

https://ria.ru/20220726/mask-1805185792.html

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« Reply #82 on: 07/27/2022 12:42 am »
The United States is thinking about how to neutralize the consequences of Russia's withdrawal from the ISS.

White House: US is exploring ways to offset the negative consequences of Russia's withdrawal from the ISS.

07/26/2022 22:52 (updated: 07/26/2022 23:05)

WASHINGTON, July 26 - RIA Novosti. The United States is exploring ways to mitigate the negative effects of Russia's withdrawal from the International Space Station and will work with partners to ensure the safety of the station and its crew, said John Kirby, strategic communications coordinator at the National Security Council.

He told reporters that the American administration had not received official notification from the Russian authorities of its intention to leave the project after 2024.

“We are certainly looking into ways to mitigate any potential impact on the ISS beyond 2024 if Russia does exit. This is a responsible approach to the situation in light of the reports we have seen,” Kirby said during the briefing.

"The United States remains committed to working with all ISS partners to ensure safe operation, the safety of the astronauts on board," he added.

On Tuesday, the new head of Roskosmos , Yuri Borisov , reported to President Vladimir Putin about the decision that Russia would withdraw from the ISS project in 2024 and build its own orbital station. NASA , which along with European partners plans to use the ISS until 2030, has not yet commented on Moscow 's plans to withdraw from the ISS project in 2024, saying it has not received official notification from Russia.

As the general designer for manned systems and complexes of Russia, general designer of RSC Energia Vladimir Solovyov noted, the construction of a new Russian orbital service station (ROSS) will begin no earlier than 2028, the new station can be used as a base for flights to the Moon , it may have " the lunar ship assigned to it.

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« Reply #83 on: 07/27/2022 07:04 am »
Here are the images showing the early and later configurations of ROSS.
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« Reply #84 on: 07/27/2022 02:21 pm »
I think this "russia leaving the iss" is another false alarm thing - no different from Rogozin.

Russia won't just end their human space flight for almost a decade while they start building a new station (2028 is totally not gonna happen).  Russia will keep doing the ISS cause they won't have anything else for a long time still.
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« Reply #85 on: 07/27/2022 02:27 pm »
The question is, if Putin cares. I don't think he does. He wants to hurt the west and specifically the USA as much as he can, so its only natural for him to pull Russia out of ISS.

At least that's MHO.

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« Reply #86 on: 07/27/2022 02:49 pm »
Putin could finance ROSS with his pocket change but has no real interest in it. I seriously doubt it will ever fly.

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« Reply #87 on: 07/27/2022 03:34 pm »
It is expected that at the second phase, the crews and the cargo will be delivered to #ROSS using the #Oryol spacecraft launched on Angara A5M.
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« Reply #88 on: 07/27/2022 03:36 pm »
The first crews will fly to #ROSS on Soyuz twice a year from Baikonur, and cargo will be delivered by Progress ships. It is expected that in 2030 the first phase will be completed (very optimistic plan in my humble opinion - K.P.).

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« Reply #89 on: 07/27/2022 03:37 pm »
At the second phase, another two big modules - a Purpose module and a Production module - and a partly pressurized Service platform for the maintenance of the satellites will be added.

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« Reply #90 on: 07/27/2022 03:38 pm »
The Service platform will provide a possibility to re-equip, refuel and and re-sent into orbit satellites  with help of inter orbital tugs specifically designed for that.

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« Reply #91 on: 07/27/2022 03:39 pm »
In the Production module, it will be possible to conduct different experiments in the field of space technologies, biotechnology, nanotechnology, micro- and nanoelectronics. The same applies to solving urgent problems in the field of biotechnology.

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« Reply #92 on: 07/27/2022 03:40 pm »
This module will be a place to store necessary equipment and details, there will be also a place for assembly and testing of automatic devices, and for the preparation, adjustment and repair of equipment.

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« Reply #93 on: 07/27/2022 03:41 pm »
The Purpose module will be equipped with universal work places (URMs) to place experiments inside and outside the module, like it was made on Nauka.

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« Reply #94 on: 07/27/2022 08:31 pm »
The Purpose module will be equipped with universal work places (URMs) to place experiments inside and outside the module, like it was made on Nauka.

https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1552253833094602755
You forgot the tweet by Katya that states they won't leave the ISS until they have their new station.

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« Reply #95 on: 07/27/2022 08:42 pm »
All the information in the latest posts here is from an interview with Vladimir Solovyov (Roscosmos' general director of piloted programs) published in the latest issue of “Russkiy kosmos” magazine. It’s been quite a while since Roscosmos has given this amount of information on ROSS, so I thought it would be interesting to reproduce the interview here in its entirety. I ran it through DeepL and made some adjustments to make it better readable.
 
In the introduction it is said that two inclinations for ROSS (51.6° and 97°) were discussed during a joint meeting of Roscosmos and the Academy of Sciences' Space Council in late May. In the interview, Solovyov talks only about plans for a station in a 97° inclination orbit (called the "high-latitude" version of the station), which now seems to be the favored option.   

I’ll split this into three parts:
1) the need for a high-latitude space station
2) assembly of the station
3) station operations

THE NEED FOR A HIGH-LATITUDE SPACE STATION


- Why is it necessary to build a new station?

- Since the early 1970s, the Soviet Union and then Russia have been working on a program of long-duration manned orbital flights. First of all, we tried to create reliable transportation systems, systems ensuring the comfortable and safe stay of a human being in orbit, highly effective power supply systems, reliable and very precise navigation and orientation systems and many other things. Considering the geographical location of the Baikonur cosmodrome, and the additional velocity provided by the Earth’s rotation, launching into a 51.6° inclination gave us the best possible payload mass to low Earth orbit. This was the most effective way of carrying out the aforementioned tasks, for which the orbital inclination played no significant role.

The main disadvantages of continuing to use this inclination are now clearly visible: it is impossible to cover most of Russia's territory, which is mainly located at higher latitudes. In addition, launching into a 51.6° inclination from the Vostochnyy cosmodrome, the main launch site for the future manned program, entails high expenses for search and rescue.

Moreover, the heads of the ISS partner space agencies decided that the station would operate until 2024, and we need to decide now what to do in the future and start working on manned programs that will be carried out after 2024.

It is not a secret that the 15-year life expectancy of the first ISS modules has been exceeded more than 1.5 times. Lately cosmonauts have had to spend more and more time on maintenance and repair of on-board systems which have exceeded their design lifetime. The crew has less and less time for scientific experiments.

Discussions on the future evolution of the Russian manned space program have been going on for a long time. The Space Council of the Russian Academy of Sciences discussed this issue six years ago. Various departments took part in the discussion and companies belonging to Roscosmos tabled their proposals.

While not abandoning Earth orbital programs, NASA decided to return to the manned lunar program in earnest. All ISS partners, except Russia, have joined their lunar project. For the Roscosmos leadership, it became clear that it makes no sense for us to participate in the U.S. lunar project on the sidelines. Before sending cosmonauts to the Moon, it is necessary to determine the necessity of this serious and very expensive step and to carry out a large amount of research with automatic devices.

Without belittling the importance of lunar exploration programs, RKK Energiya has suggested that top priority should be given to a Russian orbital service station (ROSS) with an orbital inclination of about 97°. The Science and Power Module (NEM), originally designed for the Russian ISS segment, should become the basis of ROSS. This proposal has been approved by the country's leadership.

- If this project is definitively approved, won't that push back our manned lunar program too much?

- I completely agree with Viktor Khartov, the general designer of automated space systems. During an excellent presentation at the Korolyov Academic Readings he explained why it is necessary to first create the necessary unmanned infrastructure on the Moon and only then implement a manned lunar program, having first prepared substantial groundwork for a lunar base on Earth. Simply putting a Russian flag on the Moon and spending colossal amounts of money on it is irrational. I believe there is enough room at the south pole of the Moon for everyone. Deploying a scientific station there should be done with caution, ensuring, above all, the safety of astronauts. The reliable conquest of the Moon is an expensive business. I think it is very important to integrate the efforts of different countries, as it was shown by the ISS program.


- What is special about the high-latitude version of ROSS?

- There were two decisive factors that played a role in choosing a high-inclination orbit. First, such an orbit will make it possible to see a maximum amount of Russian territory from the station. The 51.6° inclination orbit of ISS allows us to observe only about 10 % of our country directly under the station’s flight path.

Second, it is necessary to conduct initial biomedical research in an orbit where the human organism is less protected by the Earth's magnetosphere from cosmic radiation. This, in turn, is required to understand what will be faced by future interplanetary expeditions, which will also lack such protection.

As a result, we settled on a unique Sun-synchronous orbit at an altitude of 372 km and with an inclination of 96.9° (334 km and 96.8° in the first phase), which will permanently provide favorable conditions to observe our own (and other!) territory.

Besides, this orbit will make it possible to observe not only the entire territory of our country, but also both poles with optical, infrared, ultraviolet and other detectors, as well as with radars. We can do this every 90 minutes, which is very important. It will allow us to track the movement of various objects near the Earth's poles, which gives a fundamentally new quality to space research.

ROSS will operate in automatic mode and will be visited as required. As a result, the station will be used more effectively, not only for scientific and economic purposes.

- Why is this version of ROSS to be human-tended rather than permanently inhabited? Isn’t this a step backwards?

- By deploying this version of ROSS we intend to change the philosophy of manned spaceflight and make the station more technically advanced and efficient in terms of experiments and research. It is no secret that for several reasons things are not going very well with our experiments on the ISS (Mir was not very scientifically productive either). The problem lies not only in funding, but also in the fact that the ISS imposes certain limitations. For example, it is always in a fixed orientation, which is not always convenient for several types of Earth and space observations. Of course, there is also a lack of power, which hampers many power-hungry experiments, for example, materials science experiments and others.

In addition, a permanent human presence in orbit is very costly. It is quite expensive to supply the crew with food, clothes, oxygen and water. Moreover, flying partially outside the Earth's magnetosphere increases the radiation dose that the cosmonauts are exposed to, which places a certain limit on the duration of the missions.

However, scientists of the Academy of Sciences’ Space Research Institute (IKI) have a whole set of instruments for research in the field of cosmic ray physics which would be very interesting to place on the station. But these instruments will first have to be prepared to work reliably in an automatic mode and this will have to be done by humans. A robot can't do this kind of work.

We should not forget that a human being is a vulnerable creature, while space is an aggressive environment. According to preliminary calculations, crews will be able to work aboard the station for one or two months at a time to carry out commissioning and repair work as well as spacewalks without any harm to their health. Therefore, we are proposing to operate ROSS in automatic mode for long periods of time. The idea is to send crews to ROSS only when enough work has accumulated that can be done only by cosmonauts. We still need to find a reasonable balance between the duration and frequency of missions. A step forward is that Russia is moving from the manned exploration phase to the phase of using low-Earth orbit (?).


Figure 1:  Various possible inclinations for the station and launch trajectories from Vostochnyy. When launching into a 97° orbit, helicopters will be deployed over the Arctic region for possible search and rescue efforts.

Figure 2: Area that can be seen during a 10-minute pass over the Arctic region






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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #96 on: 07/27/2022 08:46 pm »
ASSEMBLY OF ROSS

- How are you planning to build the high-latitude ROSS?

- We are proposing to build it in two phases. If the decision to build it is made by the end of the year, the first phase will start in 2028 with an Angara-A5M rocket launching the Science and Power Module (NEM). NEM will need to be outfitted with various systems, including a set of gyrodins, in order to be able to use it as the main module for several years.

Next up will be the Node and Airlock Modules, which will be launched together with an Angara-5M rocket from Vostochnyy. The Node Module is equipped with six docking ports and will be almost identical to the Node Module (Prichal) which was delivered to the ISS last year. The Airlock Module will make it possible to perform spacewalks from the station.provide an opportunity to exit the module for work in open space.

After the docking of the Node Module in 2028, it will be possible to send the first crew to the station on a Soyuz spacecraft to be launched by a Soyuz-2.1b rocket from Baikonur. They will activate the station and start the first experiments. After the crew returns to Earth, ROSS will operate in an automatic mode.

The next module to arrive at the station will be the Base Module, which is the same size as NEM and has the same large solar panels. The set of batteries on the NEM and the Base Module will generate up to 55 kW of electric power, which is sufficient for various power-hungry experiments such as radar observations. Like NEM, the Base module most likely will have two have two sleeping quarters and a toilet for astronauts. This will make it possible to create comfortable conditions for a crew of four. At that point ROSS will have a mass of about 55 tons and a pressurized volume of 217 m3. This will mark the end of the first phase of construction (2030).

We are assuming that in the early stage of construction crews will visit ROSS twice a year and that cargo will be delivered by Progress ships launched by Soyuz-2.1b rockets.


- What kind of construction work will be done on ROSS during the second stage?

- The second stage, which we are planning to start in 2030, will involve the addition of two more big modules, the Purpose Module and the Production Module. In addition, a partially pressurized Satellite Servicing Platform will be delivered to ROSS, where new unmanned satellites can be re-equipped, refueled and sent back to their orbits. These satellites must have the capability of being repaired and refueled in orbit and their orbits must be coordinated with the ROSS orbit. We worked out in-orbit refueling techniques back in 1978. Even the Europeans bought this system from us for their ATV cargo ship, so it would be a shame not to use it for refueling satellites.

Meanwhile, we must also develop a kind of interorbital space tug to transfer satellites to the station and back to their nominal orbits. Such a capability should offer many new prospects.  Our "colleagues" in the United States have already built such a tug. In the first test they maneuvered a malfunctioning satellite from geostationary orbit to a graveyard orbit. In another test, also in geostationary orbit, they docked a tug with a satellite that had run out of fuel and now control the satellite using the tug.

By the end of the second phase, the station will weigh about 122 tons and have a pressurized volume of 505 m3, and will be much larger than the Russian segment of the ISS. In this phase, astronauts and cargo will be launched into orbit and returned from orbit by a cargo-passenger vehicle based on the Oryol transport ship and launched from Vostochnyy using the Angara-A5M.

I think it is very important to make sure that the construction of ROSS does not become a long process. Nowadays, everyone - both government leaders, the industry and the people - gets annoyed when it takes a very long time to create something new. There are, of course, many reasons for this. But I hope this will not happen with ROSS. We need to develop and make the most of new technologies that will allow us to build different elements of the station on Earth in parallel and put them into orbit in a reasonable time. I believe that the time intervals for the first and second phases of ROSS assembly, as outlined in our proposal, can be significantly shortened.

Figure 3: Configuration of ROSS after phase 1
Figure 4: Configuration of ROSS after phase 2
Figure 5: Series of satellites and spacecraft that can work in conjunction with ROSS. This includes a satellite to inspect the outer surface of the station (upper left) and a space tug (lower right).


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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #97 on: 07/27/2022 08:54 pm »
STATION OPERATIONS

- What is the purpose of the Production Module and the Purpose Module?

- The Production Module can be used to carry out experiments in the field of space technology and materials science, making it possible to develop methods to produce semiconductor crystals and films, some of them using molecular beam epitaxy. Achieving significant results in this area could give a major boost to Russian nanotechnology and micro- and nanoelectronics. The same applies to the field of biotechnology.

The Purpose Module will be used for storage of components, assembly and testing of automatic devices. It will also make it possible to prepare, adjust and repair advanced hardware that is being tested. The Purpose Module will be equipped with external universal workstations and - for connection of scientific equipment - with internal universal racks, connected to a high-performance computer network for information exchange and storage. Also indispensable will be universal software.

Depending on the scientific program, this module can be equipped for various purposes such as space medicine, biotechnology, materials science, space technology, for visual and instrumental Earth observation, for educational experiments and so on.

In other words, we will see a new stage in developing technology for exchangeable payloads, which is already being implemented on the Russian segment of the ISS.

- Will it be possible for crews to work simultaneously on the ISS and ROSS?

- Yes, of course. We definitely need to continue to operate the ISS until we have created a more or less tangible reserve for ROSS. Although the ISS and ROSS will have different orbital inclinations and it will not be possible to fly from one station to the other, we are capable of efficiently operating both the ISS Russian segment and ROSS. We already have that experience. In addition, we should not forget that if we stop manned flights for a few years, it will be very difficult to restore what we have achieved. A concrete example is the Energiya-Buran program.

- Is it planned to launch Oryol from the Plesetsk cosmodrome?

- We have not yet considered or proposed this. At the moment the only launch site for Oryol is Vostochnyy, where the construction of the launch complex for the Angara-A5 is in full swing.

- At last year's Korolyov Academic Readings you said that ROSS could include an inflatable module with a centrifuge. Has this idea been abandoned?

- We are not going to abandon any useful ideas. RKK Energiya and Zvezda have indeed been working together on an inflatable module. The Americans are already testing such a module on their ISS segment and we are also planning to do this. As for the centrifuge, the Institute of Biomedical Problems (IMBP) has a short-radius centrifuge, which is used for interesting experiments on the ground. RKK Energiya has been working on installing such a centrifuge on an inflatable module. We are still thinking about the overall configuration of the station and looking for a way to incorporate this centrifuge module into ROSS.

- What kind of experiments and work could be done on the high-latitude station?

- I already mentioned this when talking about the Production and Purpose Modules. We have also looked at many other options. For example, we could install a control center for a cloud of small satellites and a system for servicing unmanned spacecraft [on the outside of the station]. Of course, we will also test new materials, high-speed information interfaces, man-machine interfaces as well as new closed-cycle life support systems thanks to which no more than 5-7% of the consumables will have to be delivered from Earth. And, of course, robotic systems. Most likely we will also do experiments and observations in the interests of our country's national security.

We may also be able to refine the mathematical model of the Earth's atmosphere above the poles, investigate auroral phenomena and develop methods for more reliable weather prediction from space.

- Is ROSS seen as a stepping-stone to a manned lunar mission?

- Yes, of course. With the necessary political will and sufficient funding, ROSS could be used as a base for assembling a lunar or Martian complex. This could be achieved by using effective dual-launch schemes in which the crew is first delivered to the station and then waits for the arrival of the upper stage that will propel them to the Moon. Dual-launch schemes make it possible to reduce the required payload capacity of rockets and to switch from expensive super-heavy launch vehicles to more affordable heavy rockets.

For flying to the Moon, the crew can to use a spacecraft arriving at the station from Earth,
or even a reusable spacecraft which is permanently based at ROSS. In this way ROSS would become a kind of space port. Calculations show that such an approach is feasible. Cargo for the lunar missions, on the other hand, will have to be delivered to orbits with an inclination of 51.6°, which is closer to the ecliptic and benefits more [from the Earth’s rotation].

- You mentioned several times the Soyuz-2.1b rocket for launching Soyuz and Progress spacecraft during the first phase of ROSS construction...

- Yes, we discussed this with Dmitriy Baranov, the general director of the Progress Rocket and Space Center. In order to fly to 97° inclination orbit we will definitely need to switch to the Soyuz-2.1b rocket. It is not certified for manned flights yet, but neither was Soyuz-2.1a for some time. We man-rated it using Progress vehicles and now use it for Soyuz MS launches. We will probably do the same with the Soyuz-2.1b.

- Will it be possible to use the Soyuz MS for launches into a 97° into orbit or will it have to be significantly modified?

- In the first phase we will need the tried-and-tested Soyuz. The more powerful Soyuz-2.1b  will be able to launch practically the same mass into the high-inclination orbit as the Soyuz-2.1a currently places into a 51.6° inclination orbit, so the mass of the Soyuz spacecraft will not have to be significantly reduced and, hence, it does not need to be modified. It will be able to fly to the high-latitude ROSS with a three-man crew.

- In the second phase of ROSS assembly you are planning to deliver crews using Oryol. How do you intend to deliver cargo? Using modified versions of Progress?

- We are not scrapping Progress and will continue to build and use it, especially in the first phase. At the same time, our specialists are working on [three] modifications of Oryol: a crew/cargo version,  a cargo return version and a cargo version. Oryol itself is designed for flights to the Moon, but it can serve as the basis for developing unified spacecraft to support ROSS in a short period of time. A similar approach was followed in the design of manned space stations, when systems of Soyuz and Progress space vehicles were used to develop modules (??).

Preliminary calculations show that with a four-person crew Oryol will be able to deliver up to 500 kg of "dry" cargo from Earth to the station and from the station to Earth. With a crew of two, the amount of dry cargo increases to 750 kg and it will be possible to deliver up to 1500 kg of fuel, 360 kg of water and 120 kg of gases. If the Earth-orbital version of Oryol is approved, we will be able not only be able to deliver cargo and fuel to orbit, but also return a significant amount of cargo back to Earth.


In conclusion, I’d like to say that I’ve been talking about the configuration of the Russian space station as proposed by RKK Energiya. This proposal was supported by the leadership of the space industry and the president. The first phase of the preliminary design is now complete, after which we will make the final decision on what the high-latitude ROSS will look like. During the second phase of the preliminary design the configuration and purpose of the ROSS modules will be worked out in detail. This is a normal process. I really hope that by the end of this year we will be able to convince the government of the need to build a high-latitude station.

If the decision is made and the funding is approved, then during 2022 we will continue to work on the preliminary design. At the same time we will make wider use of  automated design methods and reduce the amount of ground testing through the use of digital models. After approval of the preliminary design, we will move on to drawing up technical documentation. After that we will go through all the usual steps leading up to the launch of the first modules of the station in 2028.

Figure 6: three modifications of Oryol to support ROSS. Left: crew/cargo version, middle: cargo return version, right: cargo version.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #98 on: 07/27/2022 09:39 pm »
The Purpose module will be equipped with universal work places (URMs) to place experiments inside and outside the module, like it was made on Nauka.

https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1552253833094602755
You forgot the tweet by Katya that states they won't leave the ISS until they have their new station.

Here you go..

Soloviev believes, it is necessary to continue to use the Russian segment of the ISS until the first phase of ROSS will be ready to launch, to not to have a pause in crewed flights.

https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1552255177616461826

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #99 on: 07/28/2022 07:28 am »
The transliterations of the Russian names for each of the modules. Hopefully I haven't made too many errors.

Научно Енергетиеский Модуль (Nauchno Energeticheskiy Modul' (NEM), Scientific Energy Module)
Узловой Модуль (Uzlovoy Modul', Node Module)
Шлюзовой Модуль (Shlyuzovoy Modul', Airlock Module)
Базовый Модуль (Bazovyi Modul', Base Module)
Целевой Модуль (Tselevoy Modul', Purpose Module)
Произодственный Модуль (Proizvodstvennyi Modul', Production Module)
Платформа Обслуживания (Platforma Obsluzhivaniya, Service Platform)
« Last Edit: 07/28/2022 07:29 am by Steven Pietrobon »
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #100 on: 07/28/2022 09:27 am »
Thanks very much Bart, a very helpful translation!

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #101 on: 07/28/2022 10:22 am »
I think that there will be no ROSS. It's just like the Amur F9 copy and all the other Lunar stuff that Russia has announced.
Lets not forget the failed shuttle programs such as Buran and Clipper.
The Orel/Rus(or whatever) spacecraft was supposed to be functional in the early 2010s and so on...

The case here is that Russia's space program is just scaling up to Russia's economy. And Russia's economy is as big as Brazil or South Korea. Sure, they inherited Soviet tech and relied on it for 30 years now, but the lack of innovation is finally catching up to them.

So imagine in 2030 there'll be a couple of US commercial space stations and the Lunar gateway. Not to mention that a crewed version of Starship can be a space station on it's own, also the Starship lander can act as a surface station on the Moon. The Russians would totally be unable to compete, so they won't even waste precious resources trying. It's the logical thing to do.

Sure, it'll be prestigious for nations such as India to have their own space stations, but only because they'll do it for the first time. While ROSS will be a major downgrade for Russia from the Mir and ISS.
They're just trying to cancel their manned program without directly saying it.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #102 on: 07/28/2022 09:01 pm »
Are the conical sections with the docking interface identical between the Oryol spacecraft and the ROSS modules; NEM; Base, Production and Purpose? That could be smart use of the same structure, with serial production advantages.
I think an optionally manned polar station, that could host payloads and service polar satellites is a smart concept. But it would be nice if it could exist besides the ISS. And I would like Russia to act different than how they are acting especially this year, but also the past decade.   >:(:-[ :-X

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #103 on: 07/28/2022 09:45 pm »
Are the conical sections with the docking interface identical between the Oryol spacecraft and the ROSS modules; NEM; Base, Production and Purpose? That could be smart use of the same structure, with serial production advantages.
I think an optionally manned polar station, that could host payloads and service polar satellites is a smart concept. But it would be nice if it could exist besides the ISS. And I would like Russia to act different than how they are acting especially this year, but also the past decade.   >:(:-[ :-X
Not that I recall in terms of materials, where they are built and other factors.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #104 on: 07/29/2022 11:44 pm »
During a visit to NPO Lavochkin on Friday, Yuri Borisov gave some more background on Russian plans to withdraw from the ISS and the need to build a new Russian space station. See the translation in the ISS section:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=53624.380

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #105 on: 08/12/2022 10:55 am »
At Army-2022, for the first time, a model of the new Russian orbital station will be shown.

Roskosmos will show a model of the new Russian orbital station at the Army-2022 forum.

08/12/2022 10:09 AM (updated: 08/12/2022 11:14 AM)

MOSCOW, August 12 - RIA Novosti. Roscosmos will present a model of the new Russian orbital station at the Army-2022 forum, the state corporation said .

"The layout of the new Russian orbital station will be shown to the public for the first time in the VIP-3 pavilion of the state corporation Roscosmos at the Army-2022 International Military-Technical Forum," the message says.

The company clarified that specialists are now preparing a preliminary design.

The station itself is planned to be deployed in two stages, by the end of the first it will consist of four modules, then three more will be added.

In addition, visitors will be shown "super-economical and high-life spacecraft propulsion systems based on Hall and ion engines."

Also on the wall of Roskosmos you can see models of rockets Angara-1.2, Rokot-M, Soyuz-2, Soyuz-2.1v, Soyuz-5, Proton-M , Angara -A5", "Angara-A5M" and "Angara-A5V", upper stages "Breeze-M" , "Fregat-SB" and KVTK, spacecraft "Electro-L", "Arktika-M", "Obzor-R ", "Resurs-PM", "Aist-2D", "Aist-2T", "Glonass-K", "Skif" and "Marathon", the International Space Station , the Soyuz MS manned spacecraft and the new generation manned transport spacecraft , launch complex for missiles "Angara"at the Vostochny cosmodrome.

The Army-2022 forum will be held from August 15 to 21, 2022 at the Patriot center in Kubinka near Moscow .

Russia has decided to end its participation in the International Space Station project in 2024.

https://ria.ru/20220812/maket-1809064593.html

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #106 on: 08/15/2022 11:48 am »
https://tvzvezda-ru.translate.goog/news/20228151023-wd8Nh.html

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Roscosmos for the first time showed the layout of the Russian orbital station

“According to preliminary studies, at the first stage, the station will include four modules - scientific and energy, nodal, base and gateway ... At the second stage, the Russian orbital station is planned to be supplemented with target and production modules, as well as a service platform,” the  Roscosmos website reports. .

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #107 on: 08/16/2022 07:47 am »
Western Media article and picture

The shadow below the model is more interesting

Here is a video

« Last Edit: 08/16/2022 07:53 am by catdlr »
It's Tony De La Rosa, ...I don't create this stuff, I just report it.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #108 on: 08/16/2022 10:27 am »
Some better quality pics of the ROSS station model from Army-2022:


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« Reply #109 on: 08/16/2022 03:46 pm »
Dmitry Medvedev and Denis Manturov got acquainted with the project of the Russian Orbital Station at Army-2022

08/16/202217:37

On Tuesday, August 16, 2022, Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of Russia Dmitry Medvedev and Deputy Prime Minister of Russia Denis Manturov visited the pavilion of the State Corporation "Roscosmos" at the International Military-Technical Forum "Army-2022", where they got acquainted with the project of the Russian Orbital Station.

They also examined the promising developments of Roscosmos, including the Zeus orbital complex and the Arktika-M spacecraft, designed to provide Roshydromet with operational hydrometeorological data.

In addition, Dmitry Medvedev and Denis Manturov got acquainted with the developments in the field of remote sensing of the Earth and services based on their data.

https://www.roscosmos.ru/38104/

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« Reply #110 on: 08/16/2022 03:50 pm »
Medvedev inspected the layout of the Russian orbital station at Army-2022.

Medvedev inspected the layout of the Russian orbital station, which will replace the ISS.

16:29 16.08.2022

KUBINKA (MOSCOW REGION), August 16 - RIA Novosti. Deputy Head of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev examined the model of the Russian station ROS (Russian Orbital Station), which in the future will replace the ISS, and commented on the possibility of cooperation with the United States in space: "you won't wait for them," but "let's hope."

The model is presented to the public for the first time, it is exhibited in the Roscosmos pavilion at the Army-2022 forum.

Medvedev asked who the partners were, he was told that this was a national development, and in general, Roscosmos is open to cooperation, including with NASA .

"You won't get anything from them. They're like milk from a goat," Medvedev said.

At the same time, he added that "they will not miss their own."

"Let's hope they still take it," he said.

Also in the pavilion, Medvedev was presented with the developments of the State Space Center named after M.V. Khrunichev and the Scientific and Production Association named after M.V. S. A. Lavochkina, layout of the Vostochny cosmodrome.

https://ria.ru/20220816/stantsiya-1810044589.html

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #111 on: 08/19/2022 09:34 am »
No work on the modernization of #Soyuz2.1b to launch crewed ships is currently on schedule, said the press service of #RSCProgress on the Army-2022 forum. Previously, Vladimir Soloviev said in his big interview that it will be necessary for crewed flights to ROSS space station.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #112 on: 08/20/2022 06:16 am »
No work on the modernization of #Soyuz2.1b to launch crewed ships is currently on schedule, said the press service of #RSCProgress on the Army-2022 forum. Previously, Vladimir Soloviev said in his big interview that it will be necessary for crewed flights to ROSS space station.

Not an entirely accurate translation. The press service of RSC Progress said no such work is currently envisaged/scheduled, so it hasn't even begun yet.

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« Reply #113 on: 08/22/2022 11:02 am »
Oleg Orlov: scientists want to conduct long-term missions to the ROS

11:00 08/22/2022 (updated: 11:11 08/22/2022)

A model of a promising Russian orbital station (ROS) was first presented to the public at the Army-2022 forum held last week in Kubinka near Moscow. Now the design of this station is underway, and the developers are going to place it in a high-latitude orbit with an inclination of about 97 degrees. How will such a flight differ for astronauts from an orbit with an inclination of 51.6 degrees, on which the ISS flies, as well as what experiments the new station will allow to conduct, the director of the Institute of Biomedical Problems (IMBP) told RIA Novosti correspondent Denis Kayyran in an interview RAS Oleg Orlov .

- Oleg Igorevich, what kind of research work is being carried out by IBMP to study the possibility of staying and options for the activities of cosmonauts on the future ROS ?

– Currently, IBMP, as part of cooperation, is involved in the development of a draft design of the space complex of the Russian orbital station. The project provides for, among other things, an assessment of approaches to the implementation of programs of scientific and applied research and experiments in the target orbit, including long-term medical and human participation.

What are the benefits for the study of man will fly in such an orbit?

 We hope that the station will present a new level of opportunities in terms of the implementation of scientific, including biomedical, programs. And in terms of energy, interfaces, communications and the like. The discussed inclination, due to the peculiarities of the radiation situation, provides a unique opportunity to study the effect of galactic radiation on biological objects, which is certainly important for the development of systems for supporting promising interplanetary flights.

– It is planned that more experiments can be carried out at the ROS outside the station. What opportunities open up for you in this regard?

– The possibilities of conducting research on astrobiology and ensuring planetary quarantine are expanding, for example. In addition, it is assumed that the station will interact with free-flying modules, which is of interest, including for biotechnological research.

- How will the creation of life support systems for ROS differ from those for MK S? What do you predict the main difficulties?
– Russia has a wealth of successful experience in the creation and operation of life support systems for flights of various durations, and it can certainly be used as a basis. Another question is that one of the important tasks of the ROS is the development of technologies for adapting a person to the conditions of life in relation to the tasks of interplanetary flights. And this means that the ROS should serve as a platform for testing and trial operation of methodological and technological developments, which in the future will find application in manned missions beyond the Earth's orbit .

What kind of experiments in your line will be carried out at the ROS for the first time in the history of Russian or world cosmonautics?

- For example, if you manage to create a module with a short-radius centrifuge (or CCR for short) to work out issues of artificial gravity. Experts from many countries dream about it. Our priority in world cosmonautics will be undeniable.

– How feasible is the installation of a short-radius centrifuge at the ROS? And is it needed for relatively short missions?

– This project was preliminary developed with specialists from the Energia Rocket and Space Corporation ( RKK ) and received fundamental support at the state level. But while the design work is not funded. The use of artificial gravity with the use of the CCR should be an effective element of the prevention system in the conditions of interplanetary flights and planetary bases. However, we have reason to believe that even under conditions of orbital flights, such a complex will make it possible to increase the effectiveness of prevention, and, possibly, will reduce the total time spent by cosmonauts for preventive measures.

– What risks, besides radiation, does flying in a high-latitude orbit entail? How can they be parried?

– Radiation risks are diverse. These are not only questions of the total dose load and an increase in the fraction of the galactic radiation component. Radiation risks also include a slight increase in the electronic component, which will need to be taken into account when preparing for extravehicular activities. A potential risk is a series of powerful solar flares, which rarely happens, but, nevertheless, requires the development of ways to "parry". Among other potential risks is the occurrence of emergency situations during the launch phase. Work in terms of risk management continues within the framework of preliminary design and so far no contraindications for manned flights to high-latitude orbit have been established.

You said that astronauts would not exceed the standards for general indicators of radiation risk even when flying for 10-11 months in a high-latitude orbit. Why is it planned to limit expeditions to ROS to two weeks? Will the fact that the crews will be at the station for such a short time become an obstacle to conducting biomedical experiments?

– Such restrictions are not related to issues of biomedical support. In fact, the question of the expected duration of expeditions to the ROS, in my opinion, is no less important than the choice of orbit inclination. If we declare the possibility of long-term expeditions, this means that the station will be designed and built taking into account the need to ensure them. Another thing is that the duration of the expeditions can be different at different stages of station deployment or in accordance with the features of the program in a given period of time. If one declares the possibility of exceptionally short flights, then there is no need to fully invest in life support systems, including medical prevention. You can limit yourself to some "simplified" version. Only in this case, long flights will no longer be possible. At least without special training, possibly lengthy and costly. For short flights, of course, the scientific program will be different. I believe that our ambitions in terms of providing interplanetary missions will have, in this case, to be substantially moderated.

“I think it's a matter of targeting. If ROS is considered as a technological serviced platform, then, indeed, long expeditions are hardly necessary. An excellent challenge to ensure the operation, with human participation, of a modern technological platform in low Earth orbit. Only this has nothing to do with the development of manned cosmonautics. I hope that the duration of expeditions to ROSS will still be discussed in the process of preliminary design.

- Why is it impossible to use modules of the Russian segment of the ISS to create ROS? How bad is the ISS contamination situation? Does this fully apply to the newest modules "Science" and "Prichal"?

– Analysis of the results of microbiological monitoring of the habitat of the ISS RS modules, carried out as part of routine medical control operations, indicates that the state of the ISS habitat is deteriorating. This is an objective process. The generalized results show that in 65% of the analyzed samples of the last expeditions, microorganisms were found in quantities exceeding the regulatory requirements. Among the representatives of the bacterial flora isolated from the habitat of the ISS, species of medical importance and capable of immunodeficiency of the human body were identified. cause allergic reactions and some types of diseases of the soft tissues and upper respiratory tract.

The isolated species of fungi, in addition, are capable of infecting materials, devices and equipment of modules during operation, which is a technical risk. As a result of the vital activity of these microorganisms, the equipment fails, which happened, by the way, at the MIR OS with a switching communication device.

Thus, the creation of ROS from the ISS RS modules will lead to a cross-transfer of the microflora of the modules to new ROS modules; to the appearance of potentially pathogenic bacteria of medical importance and bacteria / fungi - biodestructors (technophiles) participating in the processes of biodegradation of materials. As a result, natural processes will be significantly accelerated.

However, experts say that the transfer of the ISS RS modules to a high-latitude orbit is technically impossible.

– You and Roskosmos have signed an agreement on conducting a comprehensive research project to develop technologies for flights into deep space. When will this work be completed, and what are the main results you want to achieve?

– The work is expected to be carried out until 2025. Within the framework of this research, in particular, it is planned to theoretically and experimentally substantiate the methods and means of managing radiation risk during interplanetary space flights, including improving the means of monitoring the radiation situation, means of physical protection of astronauts from radiation exposure, as well as studying promising pharmacological and non-pharmacological means of prevention. It is also planned to study the effect of hypomagnetic conditions on various biological objects and their systems, another risk factor for interplanetary space flights, which remains poorly understood to date.

In order to create a scientific and technical reserve in the field of using promising intelligent information and communication technologies for medical and biological support of interplanetary space flights, taking into account the autonomy of such missions, analytical and experimental studies are planned aimed at creating systems for managing medical data, autonomous diagnostics and expert assessment of the state health, as well as studying the possibilities of using robotic systems in providing medical care to crew members.

The prospects of a biological life support system were substantiated by specialists in the field of space biology decades ago.

However, with the formulation of practical tasks for preparing for the exploration of deep space and taking into account the current level of development of biology, it becomes necessary to search for the most effective biological objects, as well as technological methods for their cultivation in space flight, to determine the place of elements of biological systems in improving the efficiency of the life support system for manned space complexes in general.

Temporary immersion of the crew into a state of artificial hibernation is being actively discussed as one of the technological solutions to ensure long-term flights into deep space. In this work, it is planned to assess the prospects for the use of psychotechnologies for this purpose, inducing altered states, practiced in the traditional cultures of the peoples of Asia .

– Participants from which countries will be part of the SIRIUS-23 crew? When will the exact start date of the experiment be known? Are plans for three annual lockdowns still in place?

- The program has not been revised. The first annual isolation (SIRIUS-23) will begin in the third or fourth quarter of next year. The composition of the participants, according to the preparation schedule, will be agreed later. We are currently receiving proposals from international partners interested in participating in the experiment.

When will the Bion-M satellite No. 2 be launched? When is it possible to launch "Bion-M" No. 3 for biomedical indication of a high-latitude orbit?

- The launch of the biosatellite "BION-M" No. 2, most likely, will take place in 24. Regarding "BIONA-M" No. 3, we assume the possibility of its launch in 2027-2028, subject to the start of work in 2023. So far, there has been no response to our proposal.
- Are there plans to send scientists specially trained for a short flight into orbit? When might such a flight take place?

So far, the idea has not been developed. I believe that it will be possible to return to this issue when developing a manned flight program at the final stage of the ISS RS operation.

https://ria.ru/20220822/orlov-1811222576.html

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #114 on: 08/22/2022 05:58 pm »
Yuri Borisov discussed with the cosmonauts the prospects for the creation of the Russian Orbital Station..

08/22/2022 17:32

“ Some of you will open the way to the Russian Orbital Station ,” said Yuri  Borisov ,  addressing the cosmonauts.

According to him, the creation of a national station opens up opportunities for scientists to conduct new research. For example, if a polar orbit is chosen, the station will be located in an area with increased radiation, which will allow collecting statistical data on a person’s stay in such conditions, developing means of protection against radiation, which will be useful for deep space flights in the future.
 
Yu. Borisov also said that the station could be eternal due to replaceable modules, and a new generation of spacecraft would serve it. In addition, the head of the state corporation is convinced that despite the national principle of creating a station, friendly countries can be involved in the project.

“ I think that the station should be open to friendly countries, for international research , ”  said Yuri  Borisov .

Work on the creation of a national station and transport space infrastructure will be included in the concept for the development of manned astronautics.
 
Oleg Kononenko, the commander of the Roscosmos cosmonaut corps, during a conversation with the head of the State Corporation, asked to prevent interruptions in the manned program of Russia during the transition from the ISS to the ROS, citing NASA data on the degradation of the American cosmonaut corps during the transition from the Skylab station to the Space Shuttle.

“ This is confirmation that such things should not be allowed, the school of manned astronautics should not be lost , ”  said Yuri  Borisov .

During his acquaintance with the cosmonauts, Yu.Borisov said that at one time, as a developer, he was directly involved in the creation of the onboard complex of the Russian segment of the ISS, which is still used at the station.

“ So many years have passed, but he still works. Only sometimes we change boards ,  ” commented the  commander of the cosmonaut detachment Oleg Kononenko on his words .

In addition, Yuri Borisov told the cosmonauts about the challenges facing the rocket and space industry today  -  about plans to commercialize the services of the rocket and space industry with an emphasis, in terms of astronauts, on conducting scientific experiments, and building up Russia's orbital grouping with the transition to conveyor production of satellites.

“ Space services should be monetized, this is the main source of development of the industry ,  ” said  Yuri Borisov .

During a working trip to the Cosmonaut Training Center, the General Director of Roscosmos visited  the Soyuz MS spacecraft simulator room , where at that moment one of the crews preparing for flight was training, visited the ISS Russian Segment simulator, examined the centrifuge designed to simulate overloads at different stages of space flight, as well as a simulator for preparing cosmonauts for work in outer space. Then the delegation of Roscosmos got acquainted with the technical capabilities of the hydrolab, and the instructors of the Center demonstrated to the leadership of Roscosmos the tools that cosmonauts use to perform work in outer space.

https://www.roscosmos.ru/38128/

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« Reply #115 on: 08/23/2022 09:10 am »
The head of Roscosmos: the Russian orbital station can be eternal.

The head of Roskosmos Borisov spoke about the creation of the Russian orbital station (ROS).

19:18 22.08.2022

MOSCOW, August 22/ Radio Sputnik. During his visit to the Cosmonaut Training Center, Roscosmos Director General Yury Borisov spoke about the future of Russia's manned program, including the formation of the Russian Orbital Station (ROS).

According to him, the project of the national station opens up opportunities for scientists to conduct new research, and it should be open to partners from friendly countries.

"I think that the station should be open to friendly countries, for international research," Borisov is quoted as saying on the state corporation's website.

Borisov noted that ROS "can be eternal" due to replaceable modules, and a new generation of spacecraft will serve it.

During the conversation, Oleg Kononenko, the commander of the cosmonaut detachment, turned to him with a request to prevent interruptions in the manned program of Russia in the process of transition from the ISS to ROS.

“This is confirmation that such things should not be allowed, the school of manned space flight should not be lost,” Borisov replied.

Earlier, Sputnik radio reported that Yuri Borisov spoke about the future of domestic manned cosmonautics.

https://radiosputnik.ria.ru/20220822/roskosmos-1811410441.html

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #116 on: 08/23/2022 12:10 pm »
Replaceable modules will make Russia’s orbital station everlasting — Roscosmos.

Yuri Borisov is certain that although a future space station will be a national project, friendly countries may be invited to participate.

22 AUG, 09:21

MOSCOW, August 22. /TASS/. Russia’s future orbital station, if composed of add-on replaceable modules, may become "everlasting," Roscosmos CEO Yuri Borisov is quoted by the corporation’s news release as saying during a visit to the Cosmonauts Training Center. At a meeting with cosmonauts on Monday, Borisov discussed the outlook for creating Russia’s own future orbital outpost.

"Borisov said that replaceable add-on modules can make the space station everlasting, with a new generation of spacecraft employed to service its needs," the news release reads. Also, Roscosmos’ CEO is certain that although a future space station will be a national project, friendly countries may be invited to participate.

"I believe that the station should be open to friendly countries for international research," Borisov said.

The news release states that work on the creation of a national space station and transport space infrastructure will be included in the crewed cosmonautics development concept.

https://tass.com/science/1496861

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« Reply #117 on: 08/23/2022 12:12 pm »
No pause due in crewed program during transition to Russia’s own space station — Roscosmos.

Yuri Borisov stressed that Russia’s yet-to-be created future orbital station, if composed of add-on replaceable modules, might become "everlasting"

22 AUG, 10:34

MOSCOW, August 22. /TASS/. There will be no pauses or disruptions in Russia’s crewed space program during the transition from the ISS to the Russian orbital station (ROS), Roscosmos CEO Yuri Borisov said while visiting to the Cosmonauts Training Center on Monday.

The commander of the cosmonaut team, Oleg Kononenko, during a conversation with Borisov said there should be no interruptions in Russia’s crewed space program during the transition from the ISS to the ROS. He recalled NASA’s own conclusion the team of US astronauts experienced degradation during the transition from the Skylab station to the Space Shuttle program.

"This is a confirmation that such things should not be permitted. The school of crewed flights should not be lost," Borisov said.

He stressed that Russia’s yet-to-be created future orbital station, if composed of add-on replaceable modules, might become "everlasting."

"Replaceable add-on modules can make the space station everlasting, with a new generation of spacecraft employed to service its needs. Also, the Roscosmos chief is certain that although the space station will be a national project, friendly countries may be invited to participate," the Roscosmos news release reads.

Borisov briefed the cosmonauts on the tasks facing the space rocket industry, in particular, the plans for commercialization of the space rocket industry’s services with a special emphasis on research experiments and build-up of Russia’s orbital cluster and transition to mass production of space satellites.

In July, Borisov said at a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin that a decision to quit the ISS project after 2024 had been made, while all obligations to partners would be fulfilled. He added that by the moment of the pullout from the ISS project Russia’s own orbital space station ROS would begin to be formed.

https://tass.com/science/1496899

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #118 on: 08/28/2022 02:00 am »
Russian orbital station may be renamed after design is completed

27 AUG, 18:16

For the time being, we use this name in our internal documents. Perhaps, after the design is completed, the national station will be renamed, Director General of Roscosmos Yuri Borisov said
MOSCOW, August 28. /TASS/. The name of the Russian Orbital Station may be changed after the design is completed, Director General of Roscosmos Yuri Borisov told TASS.

"For the time being, we use this name in our internal documents. Perhaps, after the design is completed, the national station will be renamed," Borisov said.

At the Army forum held from August 15 to 21, Energia Rocket and Space Corporation (part of Roscosmos) for the first time showed a model of the Station. The model included base, scientific and energy, nodal, gateway and production modules, as well as service platforms.

https://tass.com/science/1499025

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« Reply #119 on: 08/28/2022 09:54 am »
Russia to determine funding for its future space station after design is ready – official.

According to the head of Roscosmos, the state corporation will submit the results of the design to the government.

27 AUG, 22:36

MOSCOW, August 28. /TASS/. The amount of funding required for the future Russian space station and the time when it could be launched will be clear after its design is completed, Roscosmos head Yury Borisov told TASS.

He said the Energia corporation is now designing the orbital outpost for Roscosmos.

"It should be completed before the end of 2023, after which the look of the station, the parameters of the orbit, the amount of funding necessary for its creation, as well as the possible timing of deployment will become clear," he said.

According to the head of Roscosmos, the state corporation will submit the results of the design to the government.

Rocket and Space Corporation Energia (a unit of Roscosmos) first showed a model of the future space station at the Army Forum held from August 15 to 21. It included basic, scientific and energy, nodal, gateway, target and production modules, as well as service platforms.

https://tass.com/science/1499051

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« Reply #120 on: 10/13/2022 11:08 am »
Roskosmos accelerated work on the creation of ROS, Borisov said.

Director General of Roskosmos Yuri Borisov announced the acceleration of work on the creation of ROS.

02:29 10/13/2022 (updated: 09:34 10/13/2022)

BAIKONUR COSMODROME, Oct 13 - RIA Novosti. Roskosmos has decided to speed up work on the creation of the Russian Orbital Station (ROS), Yury Borisov, general director of Roskosmos, told reporters on Thursday.

"We are now speedily conducting work on the creation of the Russian Orbital Station," Borisov said.

Earlier it was reported that the Energia Rocket and Space Corporation ( RKK ) is preparing a draft design of the Russian Orbital Service Station. The preliminary design should be completed in the third quarter of 2023, after which the development of design documentation will begin. It was reported that the new station will fly in a high-latitude orbit with an inclination of 96-98 degrees, and not 51.6 degrees like the ISS .

https://ria.ru/20221013/ros-1823560760.html

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« Reply #121 on: 10/18/2022 10:32 am »
Russia’s new orbital station to be serviced by robots, says top tech executive.

It is reported that the future Russian orbital station may also require robots to provide psychological and information support to cosmonauts’ activity.

18 OCT, 02:36

MOSCOW, October 18. /TASS/. Russia’s future orbital station (ROS) will be maintained with the help of space-based robotic systems, CEO of the Android Technics Scientific and Production Association Yevgeny Dudorov said on Tuesday.

"The ROS is expected to feature artificial intelligence elements and its maintenance will involve space-based robotic systems that will presumably deal with autonomously controlling and servicing the station, using uncrewed robotic vehicles," Dudorov said in an article published by the Energia Space Rocket Corporation in the Space Engineering and Technology magazine.

Robotic systems designed for extra-vehicular activity will be able to carry out refueling, replace expendables, provide maintenance to the payload on the service platform, launch small spacecraft, assemble large-size structures under an operator’s control, inspect the station’s condition, service and repair structural elements and onboard systems. The robots will also be able to assist cosmonauts in spacewalks, he said.

"The tasks of intra-vehicular activity are as follows: autonomously conducting routine maintenance and repair operations, inspecting the state of modules (structural elements, onboard systems, emergency and dangerous facilities) inside the ROS, providing assistance to cosmonauts," the executive director elaborated.

The future Russian orbital station may also require robots to provide psychological and information support to cosmonauts’ activity, he said.

Russia’s Energia Space Rocket Corporation (part of the state space corporation Roscosmos) unveiled a mock-up of the future national orbital station at the Army international arms show on August 15-21. The station’s mock-up consisted of a base, research/energy, gateway target-oriented and production modules and service platforms.

https://tass.com/science/1524185

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« Reply #122 on: 10/23/2022 09:59 am »
Manturov spoke about the project to create the Russian orbital station.

The head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Manturov: the cost of creating the Russian orbital station has been determined.

08:14 23.10.2022

COSMODROME "VOSTOCHNY" (Amur region), October 23 - RIA Novosti. The preliminary cost of creating the Russian Orbital Station (ROS) has already been determined, but it is not yet planned to name it, since the preliminary design of the ROS is not ready, Deputy Prime Minister Denis Manturov, head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation, told reporters.

"Naturally, preliminary data on the cost of the work have already been received, but I consider it premature to announce them before the draft design is defended with the participation of a wide range of scientists and experts," Manturov said after the launch of the Soyuz-2.1b rocket.

He recalled that Energia Rocket and Space Corporation ( RKK ) should complete the preliminary design of the space complex of the Russian orbital station in the second half of 2023. Based on the results of the draft design, a cost estimate of the project will be given, the vice-premier specified.

Manturov also said that Vostochny will be the base spaceport for the deployment of the new station. The infrastructure for manned launches has not yet been created here, therefore, in order to create a ROS in orbit, it is necessary to implement a comprehensive project, which, in addition to the station itself, includes a new transport system, ground infrastructure facilities, a control complex, search and rescue of cosmonauts, the Deputy Prime Minister emphasized.

Earlier it was reported that the Energia Rocket and Space Corporation (RKK) is preparing a draft design of the Russian Orbital Service Station. The preliminary design should be completed in the third quarter of 2023, after which the development of design documentation will begin. It was reported that the new station will fly in a high-latitude orbit with an inclination of 96-98 degrees, and not 51.6 degrees, like the ISS .

In mid-October, the general director of Roskosmos , Yuri Borisov , said that work on the creation of the ROS is being carried out in an accelerated mode.

https://ria.ru/20221023/kosmos-1826011410.html

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #123 on: 12/05/2022 04:55 pm »
New Oryol service module will use for core+dock modules.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #124 on: 04/14/2023 09:31 am »
Long interview with RSC Energia Chief Designer Vladimir Kozhevnikov about ROSS development and features:

https://www.energia.ru/ru/news/sleduyushchaya-stantsiya-ros-glavnyy-konstruktor-vladimir-kozhevnikov-raskryvaet-unikalnost-novoy-ro.html

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« Reply #125 on: 04/15/2023 02:21 pm »
https://tass.ru/kosmos/17032557

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Roscosmos announced the launch of modules of the Russian orbital station in 2027-2030

MOSCOW, 13 February. /TASS/. The Science and Energy Module (NEM) of the Russian Orbital Station (ROS) will be launched in 2027, and four more modules will go into orbit in 2028-2030. This was announced in an interview with TASS by Deputy General Designer of the Energia Rocket and Space Corporation (part of Roskosmos), Chief Designer of ROS Vladimir Kozhevnikov.
"At the moment, we plan to launch the first, scientific and energy, module at the end of 2027, the nodal, gateway, basic and target modules - for the period 2028-2030," Kozhevnikov said.

According to the chief designer, the timing of the plant's deployment will be determined based on the results of the preliminary design, which will be completed this year. "The work on the NEM, after a pause, has been deployed in full. The draft design of the ROS defines the requirements for its completion, which will be implemented starting from 2024. The launch of the NEM into the orbit of the ROS is planned using the Angara-5M rocket," he explained.

At the same time, the station, Kozhevnikov stressed, will be practically "eternal". "The proposed project provides for the possibility of replacing worn-out modules. This will not only keep it operational, but also ensure that the technical and technological equipment of the station is up to date," the chief designer added.
Kozhevnikov also recalled that the launch of crews to the new orbital station is planned with the help of a promising transport ship from the Vostochny cosmodrome. This will make it possible to implement the "new station - new ship - new spaceport" strategy.

In April 2021, Yuri Borisov, who at that time was Deputy Prime Minister, stated that the state of the ISS leaves much to be desired, so Russia can focus on creating its own orbital station. At the moment, its preliminary design is underway. In October, Deputy Prime Minister - Head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation Denis Manturov told reporters that the preliminary cost of creating a promising Russian orbital station is already known.

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #126 on: 06/14/2023 02:28 am »
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Haven't seen this posted yet but selection of two cosmonauts for ROSS station to be selected late this year/next year.

https://tass.com/russia/1629311

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MOSCOW, June 8. /TASS/. The inaugural selection of cosmonauts for space flights to the future Russian Orbital Station (ROS) is planned for 2023-2024, the press office of the Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center reported on Thursday.

"First targeted selection of cosmonauts for flights to the ROS is planned for 2023-2024," the press service announced.

The training center added that active cosmonauts from the Russian Space Agency Roscosmos would also participate in the flights to Russia’s future orbital outpost.

In April 2021, then-Deputy Prime Minister Yury Borisov said that the condition of the International Space Station left much to be desired and Russia might focus on creating its own orbital outpost. Work on the future orbital station’s conceptual design is currently underway.

Deputy Prime Minister, Industry and Trade Minister Denis Manturov said in October last year that Russia had already determined the preliminary cost of its future orbital station.

Deputy Chief Designer of the Energia Space Rocket Corporation (part of the State Space Corporation Roscosmos), ROS Chief Designer Vladimir Kozhevnikov told TASS in February that Russia would launch the first research/energy module at the end of 2027 and the nodal, gateway, basic and special-purpose modules in 2028-2030.
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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #127 on: 07/03/2023 12:55 pm »
Russia invites Algeria, Egypt to join Russian space station project - Roscosmos

MOSCOW. June 30 (Interfax) - Roscosmos CEO Yury Borisov has said he invited the Algerian and Egyptian space agencies to join the construction of a Russian space station, up to building their national modules.

"I have proposed to them [Algeria and Egypt] that they participate in a Russian space station, and this would be full-fledged participation, too, up to building their national modules, rather than just cosmonaut training," Borisov said at a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday.

https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/92067/
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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #128 on: 08/14/2023 10:09 am »
https://t.me/roscosmos_gk/10463

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🎥 At the Army-2023 International Military-Technical Forum, RSC Energia demonstrated new capabilities of the Russian Orbital Station

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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #129 on: 08/23/2023 05:14 am »

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Re: Russian Orbital Station (ROS) Development
« Reply #130 on: 03/31/2024 09:10 pm »
There is rather recent information on ROS dating back to February this year. The still non-existent station is now officially called ROS (Российская Oрбитальная Cтанция - Russian Orbital Station), no longer ROSS.

Quote from https://vpk.name/news/823138_borisov_eskiznyi_proekt_rossiiskoi_orbitalnoi_stancii_sootvetstvuet_trebovaniyam.html (translated by DeepL):

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In October 2023, Yuri Borisov, head of Roscosmos, said that the cost of the station was estimated at 609bn rubles until 2032, of which 150bn is planned to be spent in the first three years. According to him, the project is open for international co-operation: for example, the countries of Africa and BRICS have been offered to participate in the creation of the station.

As Vladimir Kozhevnikov, deputy general designer of the Rocket and Space Corporation (RSC) Energia (part of Roscosmos) and chief designer of ROS, told TASS in February, the launch date of the first, scientific and energy module is currently scheduled for the end of 2027, while the node, airlock, base and target modules are to be launched between 2028 and 2030. According to Vladimir Soloviev, general designer of manned space systems and complexes, general designer of RSC Energia, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences, the station may operate in orbit for half a century.

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Re: Russian Orbital Station (ROS) Development
« Reply #131 on: 07/13/2024 04:12 pm »
Shown on X "the General plan for the creation of the Russian Orbital Station":

https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1808425637025386547

Number of Oryol launches in subsequent years:
2028 - 1 unmanned + 2 manned;
2029 - 1 manned (and all further already manned);
2030 - 2;
2031 - 1;
2032 - 2;
2033 - 1.

That is, either the stays on the station will be for 9 months at a time, or there will be longer periods of leaving the ROS unmanned. There have been such ideas. In addition, about 3 per year Progress-ROS launches - a new version of Progress - are expected.

All this will not look bad if Russia is able to start assembling ROS in orbit despite the devastating war.
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Re: Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS) Development
« Reply #132 on: 07/15/2024 09:21 pm »
I have a suggestion to the moderator of this thread to change its name to "Russian Orbital Station (ROS) Development". Because that is currently the official name of this future station. I don't have the permissions, or I just don't know how...

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Re: Russian Orbital Station (ROS) Development
« Reply #133 on: 07/15/2024 09:30 pm »
I have a suggestion to the moderator of this thread to change its name to "Russian Orbital Station (ROS) Development".
Done ✅️
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