If the rumors are true,Any volunteers to help draft the petition?
1. he would understand the programs under NASA's supervision and I have 2. no doubt he would also become personally involved with the details of those programs.3. His intelligent mind would seek the best use of NASA funds every budget cycle.
What I mean is that he would get intimately involved. He would be "hands on" versus "hands off" and would actually understand much of the technicalities of NASA's programs. No one can deny his resourceful knowledge and education in space sciences and his inspiring charisma, which I think NASA needs in its leadership. Many NASA administrators were never aerospace executives or managers, so regardless of how small the Hayden Planetarium may be in comparison, that's more management experience than many former administrators had. Dick Truly was an astronaut prior. Sean O'Keefe worked in the OMB. Dan Golden was the only one in recent memory who did work as an aerospace companu executive prior. Bolden got management experience from running DoD programs.What I meant by managing the budget for NASA funds was that he would play an important part in the budget process, not spend on a discrepancy basis. He would help formulate a plan that he would be part of the President's budget request process, making the case why they need more for that and less for that other thing. Later, he would be NASA's soldier in the hearing halls of Congress, making the case - in the compelling fashion he is known for - for why Congress should approve the President's requested budget. He would be out there in the front lines fighting for that budget year after year without tire.That's just how I see it. It's okay to disagree.
He's amazing, no question - but isn't the Admin job far too "politically boring" for someone like him....and he'd have to follow orders, like Gen. Bolden had to with FY2011 etc?He's probably more use doing what he's doing and fighting for NASA from outside of NASA?
He's probably more use doing what he's doing and fighting for NASA from outside of NASA?
But then, I am not an American, so that wouldn't be helpful, would it . . ?
Quote from: nethegauner on 12/04/2012 01:28 pmBut then, I am not an American, so that wouldn't be helpful, would it . . ?Just call yourself "Brek" and remember to say "soccer"....they'll never know
Anybody but Garver.
Here's a wild one, but can a former Senator apply? Or is Sen Hutchison retiring from public service entirely?I know, I know, but imagine how fast she'd get stuff through that big white building in DC!
Quote from: Chris Bergin on 12/04/2012 04:42 pmHere's a wild one, but can a former Senator apply? Or is Sen Hutchison retiring from public service entirely?I know, I know, but imagine how fast she'd get stuff through that big white building in DC!She could but the chances of Obama choosing her are slim to none. She is unlikely to pursue the Administation's agenda for NASA (e.g., commercializing space and NASA becoming more of a research and development agency).
Quote from: Space Pete on 12/04/2012 02:15 pmAnybody but Garver.Why is that? After all, the SLS-haters could be happy with her as admin, given her track-record of anti-govt, pro-private spaceflight?
Quote from: aquanaut99 on 12/04/2012 04:48 pmQuote from: Space Pete on 12/04/2012 02:15 pmAnybody but Garver.Why is that? After all, the SLS-haters could be happy with her as admin, given her track-record of anti-govt, pro-private spaceflight?Yes, exactly - if Garver had her way, NASA would become a small office in DC that did nothing but issue contracts to industry all day.
Heh! I've never known you to be so controversial!
Newt Gingrich. He'd push for a lunar base, plus NASA would be in the news daily because of something he said.
Quote from: Chris Bergin on 12/04/2012 08:45 pmHeh! I've never known you to be so controversial! Heh, maybe that's why I don't hang out in the policy section too much!
If NASA Administrator were an elected position, and the voters were NSF members, I suspect that Wayne Hale might win. - Ed Kyle
Oh we could throw a hail mary pass and get 51D in charge of the show! None of my business as an Englishman, but that would be good!
I'm certain that Garver's going to get it.She always ran this show, right from Obama's transition team. WH loves her because she's perceived as all-commercial-all-the-time and not beholden to old.space special interests. They also really want more women in charge of fed. agencies.The only reason she didn't get it in the last term was because she didn't quite have sufficient experience at this level of seniority. Four years as DA means that's no longer the case.Like her or loathe her, she is a virtual lock-in if/when Bolden retires. Perhaps more importantly, as the existing DA she automatically takes over the reins, even if the Senate doesn't want to confirm her officially.-MG
I see a lot of speculation on these threads (or maybe wishful thinking?), but is there really much substance to the rumors of Bolden stepping down?
Some of our most productive Adminstrators where people very comfortable walking the halls of Congress. That does not seem to be Dr Tyson.IF Bolden stepped down I think Olympia Snowe would be the best choice. She stepped down partially because of partisanship, and she is a former member of the science comittee. I know she is a Republican, but being a member of the Gang of 14 she proved she has a bipartisan bone or 2 in her.
Oh we could throw a hail mary pass and get 51D in charge of the show!
Quote from: SpacexULA on 12/04/2012 01:56 pmSome of our most productive Adminstrators where people very comfortable walking the halls of Congress. That does not seem to be Dr Tyson.IF Bolden stepped down I think Olympia Snowe would be the best choice. She stepped down partially because of partisanship, and she is a former member of the science comittee. I know she is a Republican, but being a member of the Gang of 14 she proved she has a bipartisan bone or 2 in her.My choice is still Former Sen. KBH. A true fit for NASA.
Quote from: Space Pete on 12/04/2012 02:15 pmAnybody but Garver.This. And given the need for Senate confirmation, I doubt she'll get nominated. She's just too political for the top job.
It was very nice to see people nominate me as potential NASA administrator. But frankly, I do not have the right still set. To be a successful head of agency in the American federal system requires that one must be experienced and adept in the ways of getting things done in Washington. James Webb was perfect for his place in history. Technical people (where I would like to include myself) just don't do well. Admiral Truly - a great man - was not successful as administrator because that was not his primary skill. I could give other examples but you can guess. So, thoughtful as the nomination was, I think you should keep looking for a better successor to Charley. Not that I believe he is leaving any time soon, by the way.
Pure hyperbole - you have no evidence to suggest this. Moreover, I know this is not to be the case. She brings something a lot of people do not want right now at NASA, accountability.VRRE327
Quote from: simonbp on 12/04/2012 02:47 pmQuote from: Space Pete on 12/04/2012 02:15 pmAnybody but Garver.This. And given the need for Senate confirmation, I doubt she'll get nominated. She's just too political for the top job.Simply not true. There more Democrats now in the senate than before because the Republicans cannot run a campaign. She is qualified and people do like her, despite what some here would have you believe.Quote from: Space Pete on 12/04/2012 08:25 pmQuote from: aquanaut99 on 12/04/2012 04:48 pmQuote from: Space Pete on 12/04/2012 02:15 pmAnybody but Garver.Why is that? After all, the SLS-haters could be happy with her as admin, given her track-record of anti-govt, pro-private spaceflight?Yes, exactly - if Garver had her way, NASA would become a small office in DC that did nothing but issue contracts to industry all day.Pure hyperbole - you have no evidence to suggest this. Moreover, I know this is not to be the case. She brings something a lot of people do not want right now at NASA, accountability.VRRE327
Good work so far with this thread guys, really wanted to something "political" outside of the political section to allow everyone to post on something this important.My question would be, if there is to be a change of leadership, when should we expect such a process to begin.If there is no change of leadership, do they "announce" that too?
So, does that mean you don't want NASA being able to buy a ride to the moon from Golden Spike?
Pure hyperbole - you have no evidence to suggest this. Moreover, I know this is not to be the case. She brings something a lot of people do not want right now at NASA, accountability.
No, not at all - I'm a full supporter of the commercial crew program, and I think that NASA should work hand-in-hand with industry, with both government and non-government complimenting each other. But I don't think that NASA should just contract *everything* out to industry - NASA is more than that (well, to me, anyway).
Quote from: Space Pete on 12/07/2012 04:35 pmNo, not at all - I'm a full supporter of the commercial crew program, and I think that NASA should work hand-in-hand with industry, with both government and non-government complimenting each other. But I don't think that NASA should just contract *everything* out to industry - NASA is more than that (well, to me, anyway).There is no need for NASA as much inhouse work anymore, when the expertise is now in industry.
remember you said that when the next round of pink slips gets sent out.Next budget will soon be announced I expect major cuts in aerospace to "save funds".
Quote from: Prober on 12/07/2012 05:48 pmremember you said that when the next round of pink slips gets sent out.Next budget will soon be announced I expect major cuts in aerospace to "save funds".If there are major cuts in aerospace, it doesn't matter if it is inhouse or contracted. Cuts don't affect NASA civil servants, unless there is a RIF, which is not going happen. Same goes for your major cuts.
The Senate has likely not forgotten that it had to issue a subpoena to NASA last year. The subpoena was issued by a Senate and committee controlled by the Democratic party. The majority of that committee remains intact after the last election. Any hypothetical vote to confirm Lori Garver can not simply be understood by looking at it as a partisan vote.
It's documented elsewhere that Garver ... tried her upmost best to stall SLS and Orion.