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Offline Robotbeat

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #180 on: 06/28/2016 05:12 pm »
The June 20 print issue of SpaceNews says (p7):
"Elon Musk told the Washington Post that SpaceX will land a total of three Red Dragon capsules on Mars by 2020 and then fly a spacecraft in 2022 knows as the Mars Colonial Transporter, which would eventually carry humans to Mars.  Musk said SpaceX would have to "get lucky" in order to start flying humans to Mars by 2024."

I cannot find the source on Washington Post. Can anyone else
It sounds somewhat garbled (3 landings in 2 opportunities?) and even more optimistic than normal for SpaceX.
However, for this manifest, we should be putting in either MCT or TBD beyond a couple of Mars launch windows.
That all sounds exactly like what we heard earlier. 1 flight in 2018, at least 2 in 2020, MCT in 2022, and hopefully people in 2024/5 if all goes according to plan is what Musk said earlier.

Thanks, but can you point (link?) to either that discussion or the WashPo article?

In general, stuff like this is posted in the MCT update thread:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=37839.msg1547509#msg1547509
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #181 on: 07/04/2016 09:03 pm »
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #182 on: 07/05/2016 05:12 pm »
Quote


NET DATE    BOOST(Core)  1S Tgt      PAYLOAD(S)                    ORB  MASS    PAD
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2017-06     F9                       CCCTCAP In-Flgt Abrt Test                  LC39A
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2017-08     F9                       CREW Dragon (In-flight Abort Test)         LC39A



Still have two of these.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #183 on: 07/06/2016 02:57 pm »
BTW, wikipedia has a nicely formatted page with past and planned Falcon launches, now also with some graphs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Falcon_9_and_Falcon_Heavy_launches
It also can be updated by everyone, so it is usually up to date and error-free.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #184 on: 07/06/2016 03:25 pm »
Spaceflight Now updated their launch schedule reporting that:

The first Iridium-NEXT mission on September 12 will launch at 05:33 UTC (it will be 10:33 PM PDT on the 11th).

SpaceX CRS-10 is now scheduled for November 11, 2016, but the launch time is unknown unless that one person who thought it would be 8:22 AM was right all along.
Liftoff for St. Jude's! Go Dragon, Go Falcon, Godspeed Inspiration4!

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #185 on: 07/07/2016 07:09 am »
Spaceflight Now updated their launch schedule reporting that:

The first Iridium-NEXT mission on September 12 will launch at 05:33 UTC (it will be 10:33 PM PDT on the 11th).

SpaceX CRS-10 is now scheduled for November 11, 2016, but the launch time is unknown unless that one person who thought it would be 8:22 AM was right all along.
lets try to stick to range approved info whenever possible. peoples flipping a coin and guessing a launch time when the Western Range is down for long term upgrades and maintenance and is not even sure when it will be ready support flights again should be considered. Given my statement take your information with a grain of salt and consider all dates as a NET until the range says they are ready to commit to flights from VAFB.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #186 on: 07/07/2016 04:19 pm »
Spaceflight Now updated their launch schedule reporting that:

The first Iridium-NEXT mission on September 12 will launch at 05:33 UTC (it will be 10:33 PM PDT on the 11th).

SpaceX CRS-10 is now scheduled for November 11, 2016, but the launch time is unknown unless that one person who thought it would be 8:22 AM was right all along.
lets try to stick to range approved info whenever possible. peoples flipping a coin and guessing a launch time when the Western Range is down for long term upgrades and maintenance and is not even sure when it will be ready support flights again should be considered. Given my statement take your information with a grain of salt and consider all dates as a NET until the range says they are ready to commit to flights from VAFB.

The projected launch time for CRS-10 is not a coin flip or a guess.  It is a calculation based on the orbital precession of the ISS.  Of course, it is approximate,(Spaceflight101 has it more than an hour later)  but adjustments won't change the tactical aspects that it will be a mid-morning launch if it goes on that date.  We can more confidently predict (guess) that the launch will slip, based on past experience, but it is still helpful to post some date, while acknowledging that it is "NET".
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #187 on: 07/18/2016 06:20 am »
From CRS-9 Post Launch Press Conference:
Hans said JCSAT 16 first half of August, AMOS 6 towards end of August.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #188 on: 07/18/2016 05:27 pm »
From FLORIDA SPACErePORT (http://spacereport.blogspot.co.uk) on Sunday 17th:

"SpaceX is planning to fly a booster that landed on a drone ship in the ocean on April 8, Hans Koenigsmann, SpaceX's vice president of flight reliability, said during a press conference Saturday. (It's still unclear, however, which mission will fly aboard the rocket.)"

That would be Core no. 23, the one used for CRS-8, and the flight is planned for "September or October".

Reposted here for clarification purposes.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #189 on: 07/19/2016 01:42 pm »
Please update the table

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #190 on: 07/19/2016 03:14 pm »
(Provisional) dates for SpX-11 and SpX-12 here (filtered for Falcon launches):

Current schedule of ISS flight events
UTC time is used in table

2016
November 11 - Dragon (SpX-10) launch

2017
February 1 - Dragon (SpX-11) launch
May - Dragon v2 (SpX-DM1) unmanned launch
June 1 - Dragon (SpX-12) launch
September - Dragon (SpX-13) launch
late - Dragon v2 (SpX-DM2) launch [Hurley, Williams]

And can we please have Sunday/Monday's SpX-9 moved to the "win" column?
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #191 on: 07/20/2016 12:53 pm »
Apologies on the late update for CRS-9, I  must have pushed the wrong button on Monday.  Sorry!

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #192 on: 07/20/2016 02:27 pm »
Apologies on the late update for CRS-9, I  must have pushed the wrong button on Monday.  Sorry!

It's good to see it.  Thanks
JCSat-16 launch is now listed for Aug 1.
What's the basis for that?
It's not in the JCSat-16 Update thread.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #193 on: 07/20/2016 04:35 pm »
JCSat-16 launch is now listed for Aug 1.
What's the basis for that?
It's not in the JCSat-16 Update thread.

Hans was asked at the CRS-9 post-launch press conference about the upcoming missions. He said that JCSat-16 is the next launch in the first part of August followed by Amos-6 towards the end of August.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #194 on: 07/20/2016 05:01 pm »
JCSat-16 launch is now listed for Aug 1.
What's the basis for that?
It's not in the JCSat-16 Update thread.

Hans was asked at the CRS-9 post-launch press conference about the upcoming missions. He said that JCSat-16 is the next launch in the first part of August followed by Amos-6 towards the end of August.

That's hardly a confirmed date.  At best that's a Aug 1-10 window.
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #195 on: 07/20/2016 06:06 pm »
Apologies on the late update for CRS-9, I  must have pushed the wrong button on Monday.  Sorry!

It's good to see it.  Thanks
JCSat-16 launch is now listed for Aug 1.
What's the basis for that?
It's not in the JCSat-16 Update thread.

Early Aug is inherently NET 1 Aug. Doesn't mean it will launch then, it's just a NET.
« Last Edit: 07/20/2016 06:11 pm by IntoTheVoid »

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #196 on: 07/20/2016 06:08 pm »
JCSat-16 launch is now listed for Aug 1.
What's the basis for that?
It's not in the JCSat-16 Update thread.

Hans was asked at the CRS-9 post-launch press conference about the upcoming missions. He said that JCSat-16 is the next launch in the first part of August followed by Amos-6 towards the end of August.
At 21 day intervals that is 8 Aug for JCSAT and 29 Aug for AMOS.

Anything later than 8 Aug and AMOS would launch in Sept. I know SpaceX has done 13 day turnaround before but their biggest problem at the moment is not Pad turnaround but booster manufacture and acceptance test.

That's hardly a confirmed date.  At best that's a Aug 1-10 window.
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #197 on: 07/20/2016 07:00 pm »
JCSat-16 launch is now listed for Aug 1.
What's the basis for that?
It's not in the JCSat-16 Update thread.

Hans was asked at the CRS-9 post-launch press conference about the upcoming missions. He said that JCSat-16 is the next launch in the first part of August followed by Amos-6 towards the end of August.

That's hardly a confirmed date.  At best that's a Aug 1-10 window.

Understood, but when spoken by the SpaceX guy at the Cape, that is Good Enough -- we can at least show the intent with some conservative No-Earlier-Than dates, I think?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #198 on: 07/20/2016 08:23 pm »
Understood, but when spoken by the SpaceX guy at the Cape, that is Good Enough -- we can at least show the intent with some conservative No-Earlier-Than dates, I think?
The problem is that NET dates generally communicate an actual attempt to make that date.  It could confuse people if they think the source of the NET date is SpaceX and there is an intent to make that date, when in fact that is not the case.  I could say that JCSat-16 launches NET tomorrow and be just as correct as that August 1st date.  I think it's better to stick to the information we have which is NET 1st half August.
« Last Edit: 07/20/2016 08:24 pm by abaddon »

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #199 on: 07/20/2016 09:49 pm »
JCSat-16 launch is now listed for Aug 1.
What's the basis for that?
It's not in the JCSat-16 Update thread.

Hans was asked at the CRS-9 post-launch press conference about the upcoming missions. He said that JCSat-16 is the next launch in the first part of August followed by Amos-6 towards the end of August.

That's hardly a confirmed date.  At best that's a Aug 1-10 window.

Understood, but when spoken by the SpaceX guy at the Cape, that is Good Enough -- we can at least show the intent with some conservative No-Earlier-Than dates, I think?

Please don't put down specific dates unless there is a source. At this point, that list served as a news update for me and I really thought there had been news. Please keep the dates credible. NET early August is NET Early August, not NET August 1 00:01 UTC
« Last Edit: 07/20/2016 09:51 pm by dante2308 »

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