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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #60 on: 05/14/2016 07:57 pm »
I was able to find what it is that is under construction at VAFB range. It is that they are relocating the range control center. All equipment will have been removed from the current location/building by 1 June. This leaves a ? on how long it will take to put the control center back to together and to validate the systems (especially range safety).

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #61 on: 05/14/2016 09:03 pm »
I was able to find what it is that is under construction at VAFB range. It is that they are relocating the range control center. All equipment will have been removed from the current location/building by 1 June. This leaves a ? on how long it will take to put the control center back to together and to validate the systems (especially range safety).

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zoH6Ykxpo14J:www.losangeles.af.mil/news/story.asp%3Fid%3D123473700+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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This relocation effort requires the SMC government/contractor team, in concert with the 30th Space Wing, to relocate 12 Range Mission Systems.  The first step was successfully relocating nine of the 12 systems prior to the range closure on March 8.  The size, age, and complexity of the remaining three systems require a range maintenance downtime until Aug. 20 to relocate them.  Launch vehicles capable of using the autonomous flight safety system may still be able to launch from VAFB during the closure.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #62 on: 05/14/2016 09:32 pm »
I was able to find what it is that is under construction at VAFB range. It is that they are relocating the range control center. All equipment will have been removed from the current location/building by 1 June. This leaves a ? on how long it will take to put the control center back to together and to validate the systems (especially range safety).

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zoH6Ykxpo14J:www.losangeles.af.mil/news/story.asp%3Fid%3D123473700+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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This relocation effort requires the SMC government/contractor team, in concert with the 30th Space Wing, to relocate 12 Range Mission Systems.  The first step was successfully relocating nine of the 12 systems prior to the range closure on March 8.  The size, age, and complexity of the remaining three systems require a range maintenance downtime until Aug. 20 to relocate them.  Launch vehicles capable of using the autonomous flight safety system may still be able to launch from VAFB during the closure.
Thanks for the additional info.

So does F9 use an autonomous flight safety system?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #63 on: 05/16/2016 12:20 pm »
Afaik it does have an autonomous flight safety system but it has not yet been fully certified/validated.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #64 on: 05/16/2016 05:10 pm »
Afaik it does have an autonomous flight safety system but it has not yet been fully certified/validated.
Thanks,
so if the Formosat and Iridium really do launch in July (an early and late July launches) more than a month prior to the range being fully operational by mid August, does that mean that certification is pending? And that having flown several times (most likely on almost every F9(FT) launched) is the remaining item an AF review of flight data performance of the system vs the ground tracking?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #65 on: 05/16/2016 05:14 pm »
Dunno the status, we just had some L2 info regarding the autonomous flight termination demo on the crs-8 flight.  I don't think we've gotten any more concrete information on the actual steps required for certification or the timeline.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #66 on: 05/17/2016 04:33 pm »
Can someone with confidence state the plan "as best known" for the Crewed Dragon missions next year?

I have seen discussion of Unmanned, Unmaneed with In-Flight Abort, and Manned.  Allegedly all happen before 3Q 2017.

My questions are -- 3 different missions, correct?  And associated dates.  Last I saw, it was approximately this:
2017-03     F9                       CREW Dragon (Unmanned)               
2017-06     F9                       CREW Dragon (In-flight Abort Test)     
2017-08     F9                       CREW Dragon (with Crew)             

Any additional information/details would be extremely helpful.  Thanks!

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #67 on: 05/17/2016 04:54 pm »
Can someone with confidence state the plan "as best known" for the Crewed Dragon missions next year?

I have seen discussion of Unmanned, Unmaneed with In-Flight Abort, and Manned.  Allegedly all happen before 3Q 2017.

My questions are -- 3 different missions, correct?  And associated dates.  Last I saw, it was approximately this:
2017-03     F9                       CREW Dragon (Unmanned)               
2017-06     F9                       CREW Dragon (In-flight Abort Test)     
2017-08     F9                       CREW Dragon (with Crew)             

Any additional information/details would be extremely helpful.  Thanks!

The slide in this post is really the latest info we have:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=37802.msg1510023#msg1510023
first flight a couple months later than you listed (May-July-August for the three).  Would be shocked if they don't move around a little between now and then.

On your schedule you might want to take another look at KoreaSat and BulgariaSat.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #68 on: 05/18/2016 03:51 am »
The CRS-10 launch was listed again today as being on Dec 1.
This is from a work schedule for one of the external payloads.
It is good to see it listed as RTLS, as I hope to be there to see it. 
Is there a source for this or is it listed as RTLS because Musk said that would be standard for CRS missions?
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #69 on: 05/19/2016 12:22 am »
NROL-76 launch from SLC-40 in March 2017.

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SpaceX is scheduled to launch a payload for the National Reconnaissance Office in March 2017 from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida...mission is known as NROL-76

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #70 on: 05/19/2016 12:44 pm »
NROL-76 launch from SLC-40 in March 2017.

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SpaceX is scheduled to launch a payload for the National Reconnaissance Office in March 2017 from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida...mission is known as NROL-76

Does "Cape Canaveral" omit 39A?  I'm not sure that can be inferred, but I'm not as connected as many of you.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #71 on: 05/19/2016 12:53 pm »
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Does "Cape Canaveral" omit 39A?  I'm not sure that can be inferred, but I'm not as connected as many of you.
Yes, there are two *spaceports*: Kennedy Space Center and Cape Canaveral AFS.
SLC-39A belongs to KSC.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #72 on: 05/19/2016 04:11 pm »
OK, we will assume that the person making the quote above knows this and go with it.

Thanks!

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #73 on: 05/19/2016 04:28 pm »
But you also have to take into account what Jim says here:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=40328.msg1536484#msg1536484

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #74 on: 05/19/2016 07:08 pm »
With the recent update that the Bulgaria Sat is undergoing vacuum testing...

https://twitter.com/sslmda/status/722085901430616064

Here is the statement from 2014 indicating a 2016 launch.

http://sslmda.com/html/pressreleases/pr20140908b.html

I see its still listed as TBD on this list.
-Jim

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #75 on: 05/20/2016 02:50 am »
There is a report in the Eutelsat117W B & ABS 2A mission thread by rockets4life97 that Spaceflight Now listed the date for that launch as June 16th.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=40088.msg1536716#msg1536716

EDIT: To make my post a little bit more useful.
The Spaceflight Now launch schedule is here.
Yesterday they posted the date and launch window for Eutelsat 117 West B & ABS 2A: June 16, approx. launch window 1430 GMT (10:30 a.m. EDT) and approx. launch window for CRS-9: 1200 GMT (8 a.m. EDT) which is currently listed to launch on June 27. They seem to be a pretty reliable source.
Looks like a really ambitious schedule.
« Last Edit: 05/20/2016 01:29 pm by tleski »

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #76 on: 05/20/2016 01:56 pm »
With the recent update that the Bulgaria Sat is undergoing vacuum testing...

https://twitter.com/sslmda/status/722085901430616064

Here is the statement from 2014 indicating a 2016 launch.

http://sslmda.com/html/pressreleases/pr20140908b.html

I see its still listed as TBD on this list.

Based on the testing you cited above, want to hazard a month or quarter for launch??

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #77 on: 05/20/2016 02:06 pm »
With the recent update that the Bulgaria Sat is undergoing vacuum testing...

https://twitter.com/sslmda/status/722085901430616064

Here is the statement from 2014 indicating a 2016 launch.

http://sslmda.com/html/pressreleases/pr20140908b.html

I see its still listed as TBD on this list.

Based on the testing you cited above, want to hazard a month or quarter for launch??

NET 2016-12, probably 2017-Q1

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #78 on: 05/20/2016 06:46 pm »
For what it worth,
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1525773/000119312515357300/d12743dex992.htm

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Intelsat S.A.
Quarterly Commentary
Quarter Ended September 30, 2015
October 29, 2015

Satellite*   Intelsat 35e
Follows    IS-903
Orbital Location   325.5°E
Launch Provider    SpaceX Falcon 9
Estimated Launch Date   2017
Estimated In-Service Date   2018
Application    Broadband & Media

However, Gunter's page for Intelsat 35e shows Proton-M Briz-M (Ph.4) as launch vechicle:
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/intelsat-35e.htm

Could somebody clarify?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 4
« Reply #79 on: 05/20/2016 07:33 pm »
For what it worth,
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1525773/000119312515357300/d12743dex992.htm

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Intelsat S.A.
Quarterly Commentary
Quarter Ended September 30, 2015
October 29, 2015

Satellite*   Intelsat 35e
Follows    IS-903
Orbital Location   325.5°E
Launch Provider    SpaceX Falcon 9
Estimated Launch Date   2017
Estimated In-Service Date   2018
Application    Broadband & Media

However, Gunter's page for Intelsat 35e shows Proton-M Briz-M (Ph.4) as launch vechicle:
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/intelsat-35e.htm

Could somebody clarify?

IntelSat has bought a launch from SpaceX, and they never announced what satellite they were going to launch.  They may just be waiting to see if FH actually starts flying.  A couple of the satellite companies have booked launches on both FH and Proton (InmarSat has booked a Proton slot as backup for EuropaSat in case FH isn't available next year).  We'll know when somebody actually makes an announcement I guess.  Gwynne did say they intend to launch 3 FH after the demo, which would be STP-2, EuropaSat, and something else.  Inmarsat-5 F4 is another one in the same time frame where it's unclear if the launch will be on FH or Proton.

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