Author Topic: The Yenisei super-heavy rocket (Read 8551 times)

jpo234 · « **on:** 04/14/2023 12:58 pm »

https://twitter.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/1646570607725649921

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Roscosmos says it would jump-start the frozen development of the super-heavy launcher next year "...on the instructions from the president."
Apparently, recent pics of SLS and Starship made quite an impression on somebody who never uses the Internet https://russianspaceweb.com/superheavy.html

spacenut · « **Reply #1 on:** 04/14/2023 01:15 pm »

Any idea of the payload capability of this rocket. I noticed, as typical of Russian heavy rockets, is having to cluster rail transported cores. Not a bad idea, but not as efficient as a large single core rocket.

jpo234 · « **Reply #2 on:** 04/14/2023 01:26 pm »

Quote from: spacenut on 04/14/2023 01:15 pm

Any idea of the payload capability of this rocket. I noticed, as typical of Russian heavy rockets, is having to cluster rail transported cores. Not a bad idea, but not as efficient as a large single core rocket.

The abstract of one of the Insider articles says:

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The third option under consideration evaluates an Energia-like vehicle capable of hauling up to 120 tons of cargo into low orbit and up to 29 tons into the orbit around the Moon. Whereas the original Energia carried a side-mounted space plane, the new vehicle was designed to carry payloads in its nose cone, sending them on lunar-bound trajectories.

spacenut · « **Reply #3 on:** 04/14/2023 02:02 pm »

The Insider requires payment. I'm not going to pay for something I probably won't use very often or only once in a blue moon. However, 120 tons is not bad and allows Russia to get to the moon with a decent payload. They are spending a lot of mony in Ukraine, so this may take a while for them to develop. Angara has taken a long time. They are also still using expendable rockets.

Vahe231991 · « **Reply #4 on:** 04/14/2023 02:40 pm »

Quote from: jpo234 on 04/14/2023 01:26 pm

Quote from: spacenut on 04/14/2023 01:15 pm
Any idea of the payload capability of this rocket. I noticed, as typical of Russian heavy rockets, is having to cluster rail transported cores. Not a bad idea, but not as efficient as a large single core rocket.
The abstract of one of the Insider articles says:
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The third option under consideration evaluates an Energia-like vehicle capable of hauling up to 120 tons of cargo into low orbit and up to 29 tons into the orbit around the Moon. Whereas the original Energia carried a side-mounted space plane, the new vehicle was designed to carry payloads in its nose cone, sending them on lunar-bound trajectories.

The Energia-like design option reminds me of an Ariane 5-like SLV given that it is described as carrying payloads in the nose cone.

Tywin · « **Reply #5 on:** 04/14/2023 02:43 pm »

Any idea who this Yenisei will be derived from, the Angara 5 or the Irtysh-Soyuz 5?

whitelancer64 · « **Reply #6 on:** 04/14/2023 03:00 pm »

Quote from: Tywin on 04/14/2023 02:43 pm

Any idea who this Yenisei will be derived from, the Angara 5 or the Irtysh-Soyuz 5?

Soyuz-5, according to Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yenisei_(rocket)#Design

Tywin · « **Reply #7 on:** 04/14/2023 03:55 pm »

Quote from: whitelancer64 on 04/14/2023 03:00 pm

Quote from: Tywin on 04/14/2023 02:43 pm
Any idea who this Yenisei will be derived from, the Angara 5 or the Irtysh-Soyuz 5?

Soyuz-5, according to Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yenisei_(rocket)#Design

Yeah, but I think, that is the old design...