A whole bunch of nonsense. There is no driver for such a station
0 to Jim in 74 minutes.
If we quit discussing notional concepts we would eliminate a lot of threads. Most of the "flexible exploration" path forward is notional. There is no mandate for anything much on that path except build SLS, build Orion, and "study" habitats.IMO it is good to post notional ideas on the group because of all the expert vetting that is available. Utilizing the capabilities of SLS, as well as any other assets we may have, is a sound basis for notional concepts. On the topic at hand, seems like a reasonable concept for a Mars cycler.
Quote from: Jim on 04/12/2016 11:49 pmA whole bunch of nonsense. There is no driver for such a stationQuote from: Lampyridae on 04/13/2016 02:06 pm0 to Jim in 74 minutes.Paraphrasing:There are no fundamental technological problems in the way of developing such a system, but there is also no plan for it. There's no desire by the US government, who run the SLS program, for a larger LEO presence in any form. So discussing it is a waste of time. It's also not novel enough to be interesting technologically; We could have done this with two Skylabs if we'd wanted to with a small amount of effort....Myself, I find this view somewhat limited, but it is true that these things never seem to go anywhere, and at the BOTE level, a large LEO presence seems pointless to base off the hull of the most expensive launch vehicle ever when we have alternate options in Bigelow inflatables.
Quote from: jtrame on 04/13/2016 05:04 pmParaphrasing:There are no fundamental technological problems in the way of developing such a system, but there is also no plan for it. There's no desire by the US government, who run the SLS program, for a larger LEO presence in any form. So discussing it is a waste of time. It's also not novel enough to be interesting technologically; We could have done this with two Skylabs if we'd wanted to with a small amount of effort....Myself, I find this view somewhat limited, but it is true that these things never seem to go anywhere, and at the BOTE level, a large LEO presence seems pointless to base off the hull of the most expensive launch vehicle ever when we have alternate options in Bigelow inflatables.The BA-330 is actually heavier than SLS derived habitat modules per volume provided. Marcel
Paraphrasing:There are no fundamental technological problems in the way of developing such a system, but there is also no plan for it. There's no desire by the US government, who run the SLS program, for a larger LEO presence in any form. So discussing it is a waste of time. It's also not novel enough to be interesting technologically; We could have done this with two Skylabs if we'd wanted to with a small amount of effort....Myself, I find this view somewhat limited, but it is true that these things never seem to go anywhere, and at the BOTE level, a large LEO presence seems pointless to base off the hull of the most expensive launch vehicle ever when we have alternate options in Bigelow inflatables.
Gravity is a Massive Problemhttp://newpapyrusmagazine.blogspot.com/2015/12/gravity-is-massive-problem.htmlWhat if you were born in space?http://newpapyrusmagazine.blogspot.com/2014/04/what-if-you-were-born-in-space.htmlMarcel
Quote from: hydra9 on 04/14/2016 02:49 amQuote from: jtrame on 04/13/2016 05:04 pmParaphrasing:There are no fundamental technological problems in the way of developing such a system, but there is also no plan for it. There's no desire by the US government, who run the SLS program, for a larger LEO presence in any form. So discussing it is a waste of time. It's also not novel enough to be interesting technologically; We could have done this with two Skylabs if we'd wanted to with a small amount of effort....Myself, I find this view somewhat limited, but it is true that these things never seem to go anywhere, and at the BOTE level, a large LEO presence seems pointless to base off the hull of the most expensive launch vehicle ever when we have alternate options in Bigelow inflatables.The BA-330 is actually heavier than SLS derived habitat modules per volume provided. MarcelApples to Oranges comparison, an empty propellant tank is not a habitat, it has none of the mechanical systems necessary to sustain life let alone make it comfortable, Bigelow module mass numbers DO include these necessities as they are intended to be immediate ready to live in habitats.
Quote from: hydra9 on 04/14/2016 02:47 amGravity is a Massive Problemhttp://newpapyrusmagazine.blogspot.com/2015/12/gravity-is-massive-problem.htmlWhat if you were born in space?http://newpapyrusmagazine.blogspot.com/2014/04/what-if-you-were-born-in-space.htmlMarcel None of those are valid sources of information.The website author is a well know troll.
